1209254624 Q * hparker Quit: Read error: 104 (Peer reset by connection) 1209255817 T * * http://linux-vserver.org/ |stable 2.2.0.7, devel 2.3.0.34, grsec 2.2.0.7|util-vserver-0.30.215|libvserver-1.0.2|vserver-utils-1.0.3| He who asks a question is a fool for a minute; he who doesn't ask is a fool for a lifetime -- share the gained knowledge on the Wiki, and we forget about the minute. 1209255817 T * harry - 1209257376 Q * zbyniu Server closed connection 1209257377 J * zbyniu ~zbyniu@host13-188.crowley.pl 1209258323 Q * vasko Server closed connection 1209258323 J * vasko ~vasko@unreal.rainside.sk 1209258324 A * vasko is gone. Gone since Mon Apr 21 16:29:00 2008 1209260053 Q * yarihm Quit: Leaving 1209261054 Q * mire Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1209267115 J * friendly ~friendly@ppp59-167-167-175.lns1.mel4.internode.on.net 1209269074 Q * _er Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1209277227 N * rolly kumi 1209278118 N * DoberMann[ZZZzzz] DoberMann[PullA] 1209279058 Q * SpComb Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1209279084 Q * balbir Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1209279228 J * besonen_mobile ~besonen_m@71-221-92-80.eugn.qwest.net 1209279734 J * balbir ~balbir@122.167.203.162 1209280209 J * SpComb terom@zapotek.paivola.fi 1209280819 J * dna ~dna@221-235-dsl.kielnet.net 1209281053 Q * friendly Quit: Leaving. 1209282784 Q * balbir Read error: Operation timed out 1209285079 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl 1209285083 M * Bertl morning folks! 1209285266 M * tobifix_ hey Bertl 1209286200 J * bonbons ~bonbons@2001:960:7ab:0:2c0:9fff:fe2d:39d 1209287318 Q * cehteh Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1209290717 J * bfremon ~ben@ANantes-252-1-27-44.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr 1209290849 J * [PUPPETS]Cook ~bgi|id@pD9EA0B36.dip0.t-ipconnect.de 1209290857 M * [PUPPETS]Cook hi 1209290877 M * Bertl hey 1209290936 M * [PUPPETS]Cook i optimized my comilation process 1209290975 M * [PUPPETS]Cook i am ready for new changes ;) 1209291025 M * Bertl hehe, first we have to figure what goes wrong here 1209291039 M * Bertl the last block (dlimits) are expected to fail for xfs 1209291067 M * Bertl on xfs you are supposed to use the project quota for this (so dlimits are not implemented) 1209291091 M * Bertl test 45 and 47 are note xpected to fail though 1209291115 M * Bertl and the xattrs should be working fine too, otherwise the guest is not protected 1209291121 M * [PUPPETS]Cook i tried to find out what is tested in every step 1209291210 M * [PUPPETS]Cook dlimits is nice to have 1209291223 M * [PUPPETS]Cook but xattr is needed, right? 1209291243 M * Bertl yes, but no option for xfs (dlimits), xattr is required to secure the guests 1209291310 M * [PUPPETS]Cook if i want to use the new version i have to use ext at the moment .. 1209291367 M * [PUPPETS]Cook brb 1209291370 Q * [PUPPETS]Cook Quit: ( www.nnscript.com :: NoNameScript 4.2 :: www.regroup-esports.com ) 1209291432 J * [PUPPETS]Cook ~bgi|id@pD9EA0B36.dip0.t-ipconnect.de 1209291837 M * [PUPPETS]Cook hm 1209291866 M * [PUPPETS]Cook i created a new partition with ext3 1209291870 M * [PUPPETS]Cook mount fails 1209291880 M * Bertl how so? 1209291901 M * [PUPPETS]Cook because tagxid is an unrecognized mount option?! 1209291910 M * Bertl the option is 'tag' 1209291923 M * Bertl tagxid is legacy and should have been removed by now 1209291941 M * [PUPPETS]Cook oh 1209291947 M * [PUPPETS]Cook thats new to me 1209291962 M * Bertl that's why daniel_hozac was so amused by the fact that xfs still supports tagxid :) 1209291982 M * [PUPPETS]Cook i see 1209292079 M * [PUPPETS]Cook how can i check the context of a file? 1209292095 M * [PUPPETS]Cook is there something like vls? 1209292138 M * Bertl lsxid 1209292143 M * [PUPPETS]Cook hm 1209292171 M * [PUPPETS]Cook ok 1209292187 M * [PUPPETS]Cook seams like tar is not "context save" 1209292190 M * [PUPPETS]Cook :) 1209292199 M * Bertl nope, it isn't 1209292246 M * [PUPPETS]Cook maybe i am running into problems like yesterday 1209292274 M * [PUPPETS]Cook extracted the same vserver 1209292341 M * [PUPPETS]Cook nope 1209292350 M * [PUPPETS]Cook everything is fine 1209292399 M * Bertl you had some kind of filesystem corruption yesterday 1209292441 M * [PUPPETS]Cook ok 1209292480 M * [PUPPETS]Cook the idle load of the vserver is realy impressiv 1209292493 M * [PUPPETS]Cook 20% with kernel 2.6.22 1209292503 M * [PUPPETS]Cook 3% with kernel 2.6.25 1209292553 N * [PUPPETS]Cook [PUPPETS]Cook|aw 1209292566 M * [PUPPETS]Cook|aw (late for dinner again) 1209293014 Q * nou Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1209294811 Q * Aiken Quit: Leaving 1209296133 J * yarihm ~yarihm@84-75-103-252.dclient.hispeed.ch 1209296795 J * mire ~mire@188-175-222-85.adsl.verat.net 1209298301 Q * nkukard Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1209298970 J * JonB ~NoSuchUse@0x573501a3.kjnxx10.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk 1209299218 J * nkukard ~nkukard@196.212.73.74 1209299506 J * balbir ~balbir@122.167.200.32 1209299729 J * lilalinux ~plasma@80.69.41.3 1209300487 Q * lilalinux Remote host closed the connection 1209301019 Q * zbyniu Read error: Connection reset by peer 1209301238 J * mjt ~mjt@nat.corpit.ru 1209302058 Q * virtuoso_ Read error: Connection reset by peer 1209303089 Q * JonB Quit: This computer has gone to sleep 1209303816 J * tobifix__ ~tobifix@muedsl-82-207-253-055.citykom.de 1209304252 N * [PUPPETS]Cook|aw [PUPPETS]Cook 1209304261 Q * tobifix_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1209305010 J * cehteh ~ct@pipapo.org 1209305163 Q * balbir Read error: Operation timed out 1209306646 J * balbir ~balbir@122.167.200.32 1209306726 Q * micah Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1209307591 J * micah ~micah@micah.riseup.net 1209308516 Q * micah Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1209308819 Q * bfremon Remote host closed the connection 1209308871 J * micah ~micah@micah.riseup.net 1209308964 J * bfremon ~ben@ANantes-252-1-27-44.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr 1209309334 J * JonB ~NoSuchUse@0x573501a3.kjnxx10.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk 1209309624 Q * balbir Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1209310741 J * Piet ~piet@tor.noreply.org 1209311059 Q * pmenier_off Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1209311077 J * pmenier_off ~pmenier@ACaen-152-1-38-14.w83-115.abo.wanadoo.fr 1209311906 Q * bfremon Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1209312020 J * balbir ~balbir@122.167.200.32 1209312190 J * bfremon ~ben@ANantes-252-1-27-44.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr 1209312378 Q * balbir Read error: Operation timed out 1209312690 Q * yarihm Quit: Leaving 1209313277 N * pmenier_off pmenier 1209313722 J * derjohn_mob ~aj@e180212147.adsl.alicedsl.de 1209314894 N * DoberMann[PullA] DoberMann 1209314948 Q * bonbons Quit: Leaving 1209315661 J * hparker ~hparker@linux.homershut.net 1209316437 Q * JonB Quit: This computer has gone to sleep 1209316619 Q * bfremon Quit: Leaving. 1209316804 J * bfremon ~ben@ANantes-252-1-27-44.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr 1209317050 J * virtuoso ~s0t0na@ppp92-101-10-39.pppoe.avangarddsl.ru 1209317647 J * JonB ~NoSuchUse@0x573501a3.kjnxx10.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk 1209317955 Q * bfremon Quit: Leaving. 1209318159 J * bfremon ~ben@ANantes-252-1-27-44.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr 1209318240 M * cehteh mhm .. how is vserver on 2.6.25 going ... filesystem capabilities and smack, really some promising things i would like to play with 1209318287 Q * pmenier Quit: Konversation terminated! 1209318368 M * Bertl cehteh: most things are working, some issues with fakeinit and certain filesystems, no scheduler yet 1209318488 M * mjt as is with 2.6.24... :) 1209318500 M * Bertl nah, .24 is worse, actually 1209318507 M * cehteh well, i can wait, just interested 1209318511 M * mjt heh 1209318520 M * cehteh yes .24 didnt made me happy 1209318527 M * mjt everyone can wait, but waay too few who can do something... ;) 1209318527 M * Bertl most minor issues have been fixed in .25 1209318530 Q * bfremon Remote host closed the connection 1209318561 M * cehteh and its ok for have .23, but this recent feature additions are quite interesting for vservers 1209318597 Q * JonB Quit: This computer has gone to sleep 1209318601 M * mjt i just built my first 2.6.25 (vanilla) deb. Was a PITA to find all the patches - eg squashfs. And now I don't even think (yet) about vserver stuff for it... ;) 1209318647 M * cehteh ok i dont use squashfs ... just updated to .25 even without etch, works flawles 1209318659 M * cehteh even with etch i meant 1209318668 M * mjt here's sarge ;) 1209318694 M * cehteh heh ok maybe thats too old 1209318776 J * bfremon ~ben@ANantes-252-1-27-44.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr 1209318790 M * [PUPPETS]Cook if your hardware is supported, why not 1209318848 M * cehteh maybe some userland tools need updates for recent kernels :P 1209318923 M * mjt well, some, yeah 1209318963 M * mjt hardware support is almost 100% kernel 1209319073 Q * bfremon 1209319276 J * balbir ~balbir@122.167.177.193 1209319384 J * bfremon ~ben@ANantes-252-1-27-44.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr 1209319426 J * bonbons ~bonbons@2001:960:7ab:0:2c0:9fff:fe2d:39d 1209319539 Q * fatgoose Quit: fatgoose 1209319774 M * derjohn_mob EHLO [PUPPETS]Cook ! 1209319782 M * [PUPPETS]Cook hi derjohn 1209319784 M * [PUPPETS]Cook :) 1209319792 M * derjohn_mob do you remember /me ? 1209319810 Q * bfremon Quit: Leaving. 1209319811 M * [PUPPETS]Cook why not? 1209319813 M * [PUPPETS]Cook ;) 1209319894 M * derjohn_mob well, just one talk (Jolandas 30-year bday....) 1209319899 J * zbyniu ~zbyniu@host13-188.crowley.pl 1209319912 M * derjohn_mob I never saw you here, so I pinged an extended hello ;) 1209320354 M * derjohn_mob Bertl, [PUPPETS]Cook thinks I am a kernel hacker. Pls tell him the truth ! 1209320374 M * [PUPPETS]Cook rofl 1209320386 M * Bertl [PUPPETS]Cook: yep, derjohn_mob is a very dangerous kernel hacker :) 1209320528 M * derjohn_mob [PUPPETS]Cook, *lol* hear the truth ! 1209321459 M * trippeh Ahh. Refreshing. 1209321486 M * trippeh 100 miles on a mountain bike. In rain and harsh winds ;) 1209321500 M * trippeh Almost blew off the road a couple of times. 1209321664 M * [PUPPETS]Cook so, wb ;) 1209321993 Q * balbir Read error: Operation timed out 1209322282 J * bfremon ~ben@ANantes-252-1-27-44.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr 1209322727 Q * bfremon Quit: Leaving. 1209322975 J * bfremon ~ben@ANantes-252-1-27-44.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr 1209323279 J * cryptronic ~oli@p54A38A73.dip0.t-ipconnect.de 1209323304 J * virtuoso_ ~s0t0na@ppp92-101-28-35.pppoe.avangarddsl.ru 1209323468 J * balbir ~balbir@122.167.177.193 1209323713 Q * virtuoso Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1209323817 J * fatgoose ~samuel@76-10-149-199.dsl.teksavvy.com 1209323874 J * dna_ ~dna@1-241-dsl.kielnet.net 1209324069 Q * dna Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1209324100 J * dna__ ~dna@201-242-dsl.kielnet.net 1209324422 Q * dna_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1209324493 J * doener ~doener@i577B85F9.versanet.de 1209324561 Q * doener_ Read error: Connection reset by peer 1209326565 M * mjt ghrm. Any pointers of how to USE recent namespace/container stuff in mainline 2.6.25? :) 1209326593 M * Bertl hehe, not that simple 1209326603 M * mjt i just wanted to try, to see what's in there, but hmm.. no useful references so far... 1209326624 M * mjt google found alot of references to linux-vserver site ;) 1209326647 M * daniel_hozac you need to clone(CLONE_NEW*), mount the cgroups hierarchy, echo the new pid to tasks of a new cgroup. 1209326671 M * mjt clone_new* gives einval or enomem 1209326698 M * mjt ./a.out -u newuser 1209326698 M * mjt unshare: Cannot allocate memory 1209326710 M * daniel_hozac unshare is a different syscall. 1209326711 M * mjt ./a.out -u newpid 1209326711 M * mjt unshare: Invalid argument 1209326716 M * daniel_hozac it also doesn't work for PID spaces. 1209326723 M * mjt aha 1209326735 M * daniel_hozac (note that you could use vspace from util-vserver to do that...) 1209326757 M * mjt i wrote a tiny program - about 10 lines of C 1209326783 M * mjt cgroups. 1209326800 M * daniel_hozac vspace is 225 lines, so it must be better :-) 1209326861 M * mjt documentation is nearly absent. that's the problem... 1209326861 M * mjt heh 1209326861 M * mjt better != larger :) 1209326861 M * daniel_hozac that's orthogonal to what i said though ;-) 1209326902 M * mjt i asked the same Q in #kernelnewbies and someone referred me to openvz... ;) 1209326939 Q * balbir Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1209326998 M * daniel_hozac you are doing all of this as root, right? 1209327047 M * Bertl I'm pretty sure the OVZ cahnnel is a good place to ask :) 1209327193 M * mjt heh 1209327204 M * mjt got it Bertl ;) 1209327233 M * mjt wug. I've CGROUPS=n 1209327246 M * daniel_hozac hard to test them then :-) 1209327273 M * mjt lack of docs. I either forgot how to use google or there's no docs. 1209327295 M * Bertl there are no docs :) 1209327296 M * daniel_hozac well, there's always Documentation/cgroups.txt. 1209327320 M * mjt now i know where to look - after you mentioned the key word 1209327350 M * mjt but when i started, i only had "i need namespaces/containsers stuff" 1209327375 M * mjt even that - i knew it namespaces are related to containers because i heard/saw that somewhere. 1209327381 M * mjt s/it/that/ 1209327437 M * mjt "This option will let you use process cgroup subsystems such as Cpusets. Say N if unsure." 1209327447 M * daniel_hozac Bertl: did you look at why the initpid kernel didn't boot yet? 1209327449 M * mjt it's a new option and i actually stopped at it 1209327484 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: nope, thought you would look into it (only installed qemu for you) 1209327502 M * daniel_hozac okay, will do. 1209327715 M * mjt vserver works with kvm, by the way... As if there's alot of reasons not to.. ;) 1209327730 M * Bertl yep 1209327764 M * daniel_hozac heh. 1209327765 M * daniel_hozac qemu: fatal: triple fault 1209328018 M * Bertl disable kvm 1209328027 J * Aiken ~james@ppp121-45-247-4.lns2.bne4.internode.on.net 1209328294 M * mjt wuhh.. This workstation seems to have thermal/cooling issues... I never tried to compile kernels on it. It shows 74C temp for the CPU, guess it's a bit high for amd x2-64... 1209328317 M * Bertl depends on where, mb or die :) 1209328328 M * mjt mb 1209328346 M * mjt k8temp show absolutely weird temps for recent AMDs 1209328359 M * Bertl aha, well, that seems hight then 1209328371 M * mjt the sensor is on the mobo, right under the CPU 1209328389 M * mjt finished, with peak temp=77C... ;) 1209328421 M * mjt (core temp shown is... +8C ;) 1209328470 M * daniel_hozac Bertl: i don't think this qemu has kvm support. 1209328501 M * Bertl try -no-kqemu 1209328517 M * Bertl the x86_64 version has some oddities 1209328529 M * daniel_hozac no luck. 1209328537 M * daniel_hozac yeah, i've noticed that it's not quite right... 1209328537 M * Bertl again triple fault? 1209328539 M * daniel_hozac yep. 1209328544 M * Bertl nice one :) 1209328559 M * mjt where's triple fault handler?? :) 1209329229 Q * derjohn_mob Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1209329265 M * mjt heh. REbooted with cgroup support... mounted /dev/cgroup. Yay. And... stuck again ;) 1209329322 Q * bonbons Quit: Leaving 1209329371 M * mjt looks like i want an "ns" cgroup subsystem 1209330135 Q * dna__ Quit: Verlassend 1209330167 M * cehteh mjt: yeah i have this temp problem too 1209330198 M * cehteh bought a 45W 2100Mhz amd last week .. 1209330200 M * mjt +8C? 1209330207 M * cehteh yes 1209330215 M * cehteh well moment 1209330218 M * mjt that's BE2400, and the core temp's broken 1209330230 M * cehteh Core0 Temp: +17.0 C 1209330231 M * cehteh Core0 Temp: +14.0 C 1209330231 M * cehteh Core1 Temp: +17.0 C 1209330231 M * cehteh Core1 Temp: +1.0 C 1209330237 M * mjt read the k8temp doc in kernel 1209330244 M * cehteh well i dont care 1209330245 M * mjt it's broken for quite some time 1209330270 M * mjt er.. 2100MHz should be BE2300 1209330274 M * cehteh i have a massive passive cooler on it and the case fans suck air out 1209330286 M * cehteh BE2350 i tihnk 1209330297 M * mjt or that... but doesn't really matter 1209330300 M * cehteh model name : AMD Athlon(tm) X2 Dual Core Processor BE-2350 1209330322 M * mjt i still hope to go fanless ;) 1209330330 M * cehteh well what nags me more, is that the memory (ddr2 800) is only driven at 160Mhz 1209330341 M * mjt er?? 1209330357 M * cehteh prolly a bios issue .. i hope for an upgrade 1209330375 M * mjt i doubt the CPU can use such frequency 1209330397 M * cehteh 167 or 162mhz .. dunno .. 1209330429 M * cehteh ddr2 is quad pumped ...gives ddr 667 1209330438 M * cehteh something along that 1209330457 M * cehteh well ... memtest shown barely 2GB/sec transfer rate 1209330491 M * cehteh my wifes computer has much higher memory bandwidth with an older CPU 1209330510 M * cehteh also DDR800 ... and 2.4ghz dualcore 1209330517 M * cehteh older one 1209330572 M * mjt never looked at mem bandwidth 1209330620 M * cehteh well i am into video programming now .. and memory bandwidth really matters when you shove gigabytes if video data arround 1209330628 M * mjt well.. one of my previous PCs, a VIA C3 800MHz with 16Kb cache.. it was some 80..100 Mb/sec... ;) 1209330669 M * mjt current be-2400 can gzip-compress data faster than that ;) 1209330676 M * cehteh hehe .. my server her at home is a via c3 .. most reliable box i ever had .. its now 6 years old and works flawlessly (but slow) 1209330722 M * mjt that mine box was fanless btw. Last fanless, all more modern boxes had at least one fan... 1209330726 M * cehteh even with vservers :) 1209330732 M * mjt heh 1209330761 Q * cryptronic Quit: Leaving. 1209330762 M * cehteh i am not friend of complete fanless .. you dont know where the heat builds up 1209330787 M * mjt damn. Why I have to dig into kernel code in order to know basics of a user-level-oriented subsystem?? 1209330797 M * cehteh but i removed all 'small' inside fans and haveing only passive coolers and ceramic beared casefans 1209330809 M * cehteh thats absolutely relyable 1209330845 M * cehteh cheaper and easy to service (but never happened .. 300000hrs mtbf) 1209330930 M * mjt speaking of fanless - that box worked good for ~6 years. It had no sensors like all modern mobos have but i measured temperature and am sure it's ok, at least at that position it was installed - the case was playing role of a vertical tube, or pipe, so that hot air goes out to top and cold air enters from the bottom. 1209330978 M * mjt modern boxes have sensors AND ability to control fans, so that's the way to go: add some fans but turn them off, and watch for temps. If something goes up, turn on the fan.. etc. 1209330992 M * mjt most notebooks works this way since forgotten days... 1209331050 M * cehteh yes 1209331071 M * mjt but the thing is that current components are way too powerful... so that the fan will rotate still, most of the time... ;) 1209331095 M * cehteh i dont care its loud here in the office anyways 1209331114 M * cehteh well sometimes i trim the fans statically down ... 7V are usually enough 1209331123 M * mjt heh. It' 01:18 here around, night, everyone's sleeping... you got the idea :) 1209331133 M * cehteh and with good and big fans thats almost not noticeable 1209331169 M * cehteh any fan below 80mm is really useless imo 1209331191 M * cehteh 120mm are fine you can make them slow and the are not audible 1209331206 M * mjt my old PIII-800 notebook has a 30mm fan... ;) 1209331221 M * cehteh notebooks dont count 1209331232 M * mjt but the fans are! ;) 1209331233 M * cehteh hehe 120mm fan for a notebook :) 1209331241 M * mjt there are such beasts 1209331259 M * mjt cooling tables for notebooks 1209331263 M * mjt forgot how they're called 1209331271 Q * bfremon Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1209331284 M * cehteh mine has a hardware switch which lets one lock the cpu to 500Mhz or so (thats 600mhz and decreases fsb) 1209331285 M * mjt headsinks used as a pedestal for notebook 1209331299 M * cehteh when thats turned on, the fan almost never ever runs 1209331316 M * cehteh still suffices for most work 1209331334 M * mjt but recompiling kernel is... slow... ;) 1209331955 N * DoberMann DoberMann[ZZZzzz] 1209332051 Q * larsivi Quit: Konversation terminated! 1209332115 J * larsivi ~larsivi@144.84-48-50.nextgentel.com 1209332450 Q * Piet Quit: Piet 1209332917 J * nou Chaton@causse.larzac.fr.eu.org 1209333345 Q * hparker Quit: Read error: 104 (Peer reset by connection) 1209335456 J * JonB ~NoSuchUse@77.75.164.169 1209336320 Q * JonB Quit: This computer has gone to sleep 1209336685 Q * blizz Remote host closed the connection 1209337016 J * duckx ~Duck@81.57.39.234 1209337234 J * FireEgl FireEgl@adsl-61-144-242.bhm.bellsouth.net 1209337411 Q * jsambrook Quit: Leaving. 1209337470 J * jsambrook ~jsambrook@aelfric.plus.com 1209339132 M * [PUPPETS]Cook good night 1209339134 Q * [PUPPETS]Cook Quit: ( www.nnscript.com :: NoNameScript 4.11 :: www.regroup-esports.com ) 1209339397 Q * Aiken Quit: Leaving