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1208131462 J * Infinito ~argos@200-140-69-252.gnace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br
1208131907 M * Supaplex here's to hoping vs2.3.0.34 applies with 2.6.25-rc9 
1208135333 J * harry ~harry@d51A461B4.access.telenet.be
1208135397 M * Supaplex hi harry :)
1208141758 J * virtuoso_ ~s0t0na@ppp91-122-26-193.pppoe.avangarddsl.ru
1208142167 Q * virtuoso Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1208145947 Q * Infinito Quit: Leaving
1208146583 J * balbir ~balbir@122.167.181.56
1208149252 J * sharkjaw ~gab@64.28.12.166
1208152826 Q * larsivi_ Remote host closed the connection
1208153187 J * meandtheshel1 ~sa@d91-128-17-34.cust.tele2.at
1208154389 Q * micah Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1208155070 J * JonB ~NoSuchUse@77.75.164.169
1208155477 J * pmenier ~pmenier@LNeuilly-152-22-72-5.w193-251.abo.wanadoo.fr
1208155590 N * phedny_ phedny
1208155608 J * Julius ~julius@p57B272B7.dip.t-dialin.net
1208156232 J * dna ~dna@193-207-dsl.kielnet.net
1208156309 N * Bertl Bertl_oO
1208156469 Q * JonB Quit: This computer has gone to sleep
1208157155 J * ktwilight ~ktwilight@197.66-66-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be
1208157368 J * micah ~micah@micah.riseup.net
1208157573 Q * ktwilight_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1208157622 N * DoberMann[ZZZzzz] DoberMann
1208157849 Q * micah Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1208159425 J * chigital ~chigital@p4FE5F643.dip.t-dialin.net
1208159669 J * JonB ~NoSuchUse@130.227.63.19
1208159875 J * Slydder ~chuck@194.59.17.53
1208159944 Q * chigital Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1208160083 Q * Slydder Remote host closed the connection
1208160107 J * Slydder ~chuck@194.59.17.53
1208160960 J * micah ~micah@micah.riseup.net
1208163048 Q * dna Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1208164723 Q * pmenier Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.81 [Firefox 3.0b5/2008032619]
1208164751 P * h01ger have fun
1208164912 J * mrfree ~mrfree@88.40.89.1
1208167176 J * cryptronic ~oli@p54A3B346.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
1208168581 J * hijacker_ ~hijacker@213.91.163.5
1208168581 Q * hijacker Read error: Connection reset by peer
1208169399 N * Bertl_oO Bertl_
1208169401 N * Bertl_ Bertl
1208169617 Q * cryptronic Quit: Leaving.
1208170154 J * dna ~dna@193-207-dsl.kielnet.net
1208171495 J * chigital ~chigital@p4FE5EC4F.dip.t-dialin.net
1208171921 J * jsambrook ~jsambrook@aelfric.plus.com
1208171992 J * virtuoso ~s0t0na@ppp78-37-176-162.pppoe.avangarddsl.ru
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1208172295 J * nou Chaton@causse.larzac.fr.eu.org
1208172295 J * opuk ~kupo@alla.beundrar.kupo.se
1208172295 J * mEDI_S ~medi@snipah.com
1208172295 J * fuqz damn@secure.signalstorm.org
1208172295 J * Genghis- ~Genghis@got.debian-inside.com
1208172295 J * mnemoc ~amery@kilo105.server4you.de
1208172295 J * fosco fosco@konoha.devnullteam.org
1208172295 J * sid3windr luser@bastard-operator.from-hell.be
1208172295 J * sladen paul@starsky.19inch.net
1208172295 J * kiorky ~kiorky@cryptelium.net
1208172295 J * hipe ~hipe@BSN-77-69-204.dsl.siol.net
1208172295 J * transacid ~transacid@transacid.de
1208172295 J * zbyniu ~zbyniu@host13-188.crowley.pl
1208172295 J * ktwilight ~ktwilight@197.66-66-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be
1208172295 J * nox ~nox@nox.user.oftc.net
1208172295 J * bXi bluepunk@irssi.co.uk
1208172295 J * Loki|muh loki@satanix.de
1208172295 J * blizz ~stephan@evilhackerdu.de
1208172295 J * kaner kaner@zzz.strace.org
1208172295 J * mc ~many@mc.netop.oftc.net
1208172295 J * Adrinael adrinael@rid7.kyla.fi
1208172295 J * arthur ~arthur@pan.madism.org
1208172295 J * moemoe moemoe@kuschelhoelle.netzhure.de
1208172295 J * matti matti@acrux.romke.net
1208172295 J * wibble_ ~wibble@vortex.ukshells.co.uk
1208172295 J * DoberMann ~james@cap31-6-88-180-72-76.fbx.proxad.net
1208172295 J * pmjdebruijn ~pmjdebrui@jester.pcode.nl
1208172295 J * padde ~padde@patrick-nagel.net
1208172295 J * BobR_zZ odie@IRC.13thfloor.at
1208172295 J * mcp ~hightower@wolk-project.de
1208172295 J * pusling pusling@77.75.162.71
1208172295 J * PowerKe ~tom@d5153A1EB.access.telenet.be
1208172295 J * esa ~esa@ip-87-238-2-45.static.adsl.cheapnet.it
1208172295 J * ritter_ ~lownoize@p5B076521.dip.t-dialin.net
1208172295 J * harry ~harry@d51A461B4.access.telenet.be
1208172295 J * meandtheshel1 ~sa@d91-128-17-34.cust.tele2.at
1208172295 J * Slydder ~chuck@194.59.17.53
1208172295 J * hijacker_ ~hijacker@213.91.163.5
1208172295 J * virtuoso ~s0t0na@ppp78-37-176-162.pppoe.avangarddsl.ru
1208172295 J * emag ~Itoc5OI6@gurski.org
1208172295 J * Supaplex supaplex@pyroclastic.daxal.com
1208172295 J * awk ~awk@security.web.za
1208172295 J * quasisane ~sanep@c-75-68-59-175.hsd1.nh.comcast.net
1208172295 J * mick_work ~clamwin@h-74-2-196-226.miatflad.covad.net
1208172295 J * bronson_ ~bronson@adsl-68-122-117-135.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net
1208172295 J * dna ~dna@193-207-dsl.kielnet.net
1208172295 J * AndrewLee ~andrew@flat.iis.sinica.edu.tw
1208172295 J * tam ~tam@gw.nettam.com
1208172295 J * Hunger Hunger.hu@Hunger.hu
1208172295 J * nenolod ~nenolod@ip70-189-74-69.ok.ok.cox.net
1208172295 J * heanol heanol@fuck.face.edu
1208172295 J * Hollow ~hollow@proteus.croup.de
1208172295 J * Aiken ~james@ppp121-45-192-61.lns1.bne1.internode.on.net
1208172295 J * balbir ~balbir@122.167.181.56
1208172295 J * besonen_mobile_ ~besonen_m@71-220-235-129.eugn.qwest.net
1208172295 J * fatgoose ~samuel@76-10-149-199.dsl.teksavvy.com
1208172295 J * micah ~micah@micah.riseup.net
1208172295 J * chigital ~chigital@p4FE5EC4F.dip.t-dialin.net
1208172295 J * puck ~puck@leibniz.catalyst.net.nz
1208172295 J * nkukard ~nkukard@196.212.73.74
1208172295 J * arachnist arachnist@plzdie.kthxbai.pl
1208172295 J * FloodServ services@services.oftc.net
1208172295 J * Guy- ~korn@elan.rulez.org
1208172295 J * sannes ace@har.sagt.no
1208172295 J * [PUPPETS]Gonzo e-trolley@fellatio.deswahnsinns.de
1208172295 J * weasel weasel@weasel.chair.oftc.net
1208172295 J * Bertl herbert@IRC.13thfloor.at
1208172295 J * C14r ~C14r@h58173.serverkompetenz.net
1208172295 J * virtuoso_ ~s0t0na@ppp91-122-26-193.pppoe.avangarddsl.ru
1208172295 J * sharkjaw ~gab@64.28.12.166
1208172295 J * mrfree ~mrfree@88.40.89.1
1208172295 J * brag ~bragon@2001:7a8:aa58::1
1208172295 J * Medivh ck@dolphin.serverbox.de
1208172295 J * ensc ~irc-ensc@77.235.182.26
1208172295 J * cehteh ~ct@pipapo.org
1208172295 J * ag- ~ag@fedaykin.roxor.cx
1208172295 J * snooze ~o@1-1-4-40a.gkp.gbg.bostream.se
1208172295 J * wenchien ~wenchien@59-105-176-102.adsl.static.seed.net.tw
1208172295 J * squat ~squat@85-10-210-61.clients.your-server.de
1208172295 J * duckx ~Duck@81.57.39.234
1208172295 J * Julius ~julius@p57B272B7.dip.t-dialin.net
1208172295 J * JonB ~NoSuchUse@130.227.63.19
1208172295 J * jsambrook ~jsambrook@aelfric.plus.com
1208172295 J * phedny ~mark@2001:610:656::115
1208172295 J * bzed ~bzed@devel.recluse.de
1208172295 J * daniel_hozac ~daniel@ssh.hozac.com
1208172295 J * ard ~ard@shell2.kwaak.net
1208172295 J * ard6 ~ard@2002:d9c4:2909:1::1
1208172398 Q * virtuoso_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1208172740 J * friendly ~friendly@ppp59-167-94-13.lns2.mel6.internode.on.net
1208173350 Q * Aiken Quit: Leaving
1208174038 Q * mrfree Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1208174105 J * pmenier ~pme@LNeuilly-152-22-72-5.w193-251.abo.wanadoo.fr
1208174574 J * yarihm ~yarihm@84-75-103-252.dclient.hispeed.ch
1208174845 J * mrfree ~mrfree@host1-89-static.40-88-b.business.telecomitalia.it
1208175240 J * mess-mate ~chatzilla@ALille-254-1-72-211.w86-207.abo.wanadoo.fr
1208175480 J * ISSAMNEO1 ~ISSAMNEO1@196.203.207.50
1208175537 M * ISSAMNEO1 HI ALL
1208175564 M * ISSAMNEO1 how can i know which distrib is my guest
1208175597 M * daniel_hozac same way you'd figure out what distribution is on a regular machine...
1208175616 M * ISSAMNEO1 and how
1208175642 M * daniel_hozac cat /etc/*release*
1208175657 M * ISSAMNEO1 cat /etc/debian_version give me testing/unstable
1208175672 M * daniel_hozac so there you go.
1208175672 M * Bertl well, that would be a good indication, no?
1208175703 M * ISSAMNEO1 excellent i found it
1208175828 M * ISSAMNEO1 cat /etc/*release* give me the answer but i don't found the file release
1208175882 M * ISSAMNEO1 sorry it's lsb-release
1208175885 M * ISSAMNEO1 thanks
1208175889 M * Bertl you're welcome!
1208176851 M * ISSAMNEO1 i want to move an existing server to a guest in my vserver host
1208176856 M * mess-mate Hi guys
1208176869 M * ISSAMNEO1 i check http://linux-vserver.org/util-vserver:Howto_virtualize_an_exisiting_Linux_server
1208176889 M * Bertl hi mess-mate!
1208176901 M * Bertl ISSAMNEO1: good start :)
1208176902 M * mess-mate I've installed a vserver for the first time... well yes a newbie :)
1208176916 M * Bertl mess-mate: see topic :)
1208176930 M * ISSAMNEO1 does this docs ok!
1208176948 M * Bertl ISSAMNEO1: basically, yes, but it assumes you have access to the host, IIRC
1208176984 M * ISSAMNEO1 and are all the commande written there are to be performed on the host
1208176993 M * ISSAMNEO1 ?
1208177000 M * mess-mate i can enter the vserver but only as root. heve i creating a suser in the vserver ?
1208177023 M * Bertl mess-mate: how do you enter it?
1208177055 M * Bertl ISSAMNEO1: yes, with recent tools, you can also utilize the rsync build method (of util-vserver) directly
1208177073 M * ISSAMNEO1 @mess-mate you can create user with adduser or i sometimes use su to enter as super user
1208177078 M * mess-mate as root like this: vserver webwerver enter ( webserver is my vserver)
1208177097 M * Bertl mess-mate: this sequence will always drop you into the guest as root
1208177125 M * Bertl mess-mate: install sshd (in the guest), create a user, and you can use that to access it
1208177188 M * mess-mate bertl: ok, but what user do i use on the host to enter the vserver ?
1208177205 M * Bertl mess-mate: for the 'enter' you need root too
1208177254 M * mess-mate Bertl: ah ok, i'll create a usre in the vserver and see.
1208177307 M * ISSAMNEO1 rsync -rv is the rsync build method of util vserver?
1208177341 M * Bertl I think (hope) it adds a little more to that ...
1208177360 M * ISSAMNEO1 rsync -rv --progress --partial --exclude '/proc/*' yourguest:/  /vservers/yourguest/
1208177368 M * daniel_hozac -Hazx --numeric-ids
1208177396 M * ISSAMNEO1 is this comand ok
1208177556 Q * nou Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1208177901 Q * yarihm Quit: This computer has gone to sleep
1208178453 M * mess-mate I've created a user and group, but is ther a way to enter the vserver as a user and not as root ?
1208178549 M * daniel_hozac use ssh.
1208178573 Q * chigital Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1208178634 M * Bertl mess-mate: or enter and then su :)
1208178678 A * ard has a sudo script that does exec su - ${USER} or something like that
1208178697 M * daniel_hozac that won't get you a terminal though.
1208178700 M * mess-mate Bertl: i'm root when i enter, can't enter as a user.
1208178742 M * Bertl mess-mate: the 'enter' backdoor just works for root (for obvious security reasons)
1208178756 M * Bertl mess-mate: either use ssh, or sudo for a user
1208178835 M * ard Hmmmm, it works very well though...
1208178857 M * ISSAMNEO1 as bertl say you enter then use sudo user, to enter as user
1208178858 M * ard even vi seems to see size changes
1208178894 M * ard but for standard uses, I use ssh
1208178926 M * Bertl two cases, A) you are logged on to the host as user
1208178945 M * Bertl B) you are logged on as root, and want to enter and become a guest user
1208178970 M * Bertl for A) you need ssh, or sudo, for B) ssh, or su :)
1208179035 M * mess-mate The host is my physical host (machine) = say 'mess-mate'
1208179074 Q * friendly Quit: Leaving.
1208179082 M * mess-mate Now i enter the vserver like this: su -c "vserver webserver enter" : that works
1208179108 M * mess-mate But i'm enterred as root, do i ?
1208179185 M * mess-mate The username of the host and the username of the vserver isn't the same in my case.
1208179227 M * Bertl username?
1208179270 M * mess-mate I mean 'userbame' = a normal user = say 'mess-mate'
1208179290 M * Bertl now you are using mess-mate for everything, how clarifying :)
1208179321 M * Bertl let's say the host name of your host is 'Host', and the guest is called 'Guest'
1208179348 M * Bertl both have a 'root' user, and let'S say, you also have a mess-mate user on the host, and a 'test' user on the guest
1208179374 M * Bertl who are you now, and who do you want to become?
1208179531 M * mess-mate I want entering the vserver (Guest) as 'test' from the Host
1208179547 M * Bertl as who?
1208179552 J * chigital ~chigital@p4FE5EC4F.dip.t-dialin.net
1208179631 M * mess-mate As the 'test' user.
1208179661 M * Bertl that's not possible, as there is no test user on the host :)
1208179679 M * Bertl options are: as root, and as mess-mate
1208179759 M * mess-mate That way i've to creat a user 'mess-mate' on the vserver ?
1208179776 M * Bertl look, there are 4 users in totla
1208179778 M * Bertl *total
1208179786 M * Bertl Host: root/mess-mate
1208179792 M * Bertl Guest: root/test
1208179797 M * Bertl for our example
1208179812 M * Bertl now, you are on the host as who? root or mess-mate?
1208179825 M * mess-mate as mess-mate
1208179838 M * Bertl okay, and you want to log into the guest as user test, right?
1208179849 M * mess-mate yes
1208179865 M * Bertl so, if you have sshd isntalled in the guest, then you simply do:
1208179876 M * Bertl ssh test@<guest-ip>
1208179904 M * Bertl otherwise, you have to sudo vserver <name> enter, and then 'su' to the test user
1208179983 M * mess-mate well, ssh@<guest-ip> don't work and ssh is installed
1208180003 M * Bertl aha, now we are arriving at the real issue :)
1208180015 M * Bertl did you limit the host's sshd?
1208180019 M * mess-mate of course the <guest-ip> is not the same of the <host-ip>
1208180028 J * cryptronic ~oli@p54A3B346.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
1208180043 M * mess-mate i'l take a look...
1208180234 M * mess-mate I've changed  the 'listen ip' as the ip of the vserver and changed permitrootlogin to no.
1208180244 M * daniel_hozac on the host?
1208180255 M * mess-mate no, on the guest
1208180314 M * Bertl you want to limit the host, the guest will be automagically restricted to the guest IPs
1208180379 M * mess-mate uhh.. limit the host ? why ?
1208180417 M * Bertl because, by default, the host is unlimited, so the host's sshd will grab _all_ IPs
1208180425 M * Bertl (including those for the guest)
1208180452 M * Bertl as result, the guest's sshd will not start at all (reporting success on most distros :)
1208180704 M * mess-mate Ah ok, how do you limit the host ?
1208180729 M * Bertl with the listen directive (see FAQ)
1208180957 Q * hipe Quit: Leaving
1208181074 M * mess-mate Changed the listen address to that of the host. I have to add permisson to the firewall on the host also i presume ?
1208181601 Q * sharkjaw Remote host closed the connection
1208181618 M * Bertl maybe, but I doubt your host's firewall will block the guest access
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1208181855 J * Drahpal ~rdavailla@lns-bzn-49f-62-147-174-146.adsl.proxad.net
1208181927 M * Drahpal Hi
1208181932 M * mess-mate The firewall permitted ssh but o way to get into the vserver as a user. (not root)
1208181937 M * Drahpal I've got a vserver host based on debian lenny amd64, and I want to add a CentOS(4 if possible) guest
1208181940 M * Drahpal I 've tried tu use yum method but it seems to be buggy on debian (pb with pgp), I download a old centos template, but it doesn't start
1208181960 M * Bertl mess-mate: did you restart the sshd on the host and guest?
1208181970 M * Drahpal How can I do to have a CentOS guest running on Debian host?
1208181977 M * mess-mate Of course Bertl :)
1208182034 M * Bertl Drahpal: probably your best chances are either bugging the debian folks a long time to fix stuff (like yum and/or util-vserver)
1208182061 M * Bertl Drahpal: or update/install the proper tools manually
1208182083 M * Bertl finally you can use QEMU or similar to install centos, and then copy over the image
1208182099 M * daniel_hozac Drahpal: what utils? what error message do you get?
1208182099 M * Drahpal Bertl: hum, is there any recent tutorial so I can learn
1208182188 M * Drahpal daniel_hozac:well, I use the command:  linux32 vserver centos build -m yum -- -d centos4
1208182254 M * Bertl why linux32?
1208182279 Q * ISSAMNEO1 Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1208182291 M * Drahpal because I am using a Debian Lenny amd64, and I want a 32b centos
1208182316 M * Drahpal I see this on a tutorial (not so recent I think)
1208182336 M * Bertl well, but your tools are 64bit too, no?
1208182356 M * Bertl not sure this can work, but daniel_hozac will know
1208182408 M * Drahpal Bertl: I am not sure that the command is the one I have to use... I just follow a tutorial
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1208182520 J * yarihm ~yarihm@gw.ptr-80-238-203-82.customer.ch.netstream.com
1208182529 M * daniel_hozac Drahpal: and the error you get? what version?
1208182539 M * Drahpal in fact, the tutorial is the one on linux-vserver.org Installing_32-bit_Fedora_on_64-bit_Debian
1208182558 Q * yarihm 
1208182619 M * Drahpal daniel_hozac: I am still waiting for the error message, I have just launched the command. I remember it fails with the gpg part of yum (I think debian yum package is to old or something)
1208182689 M * Drahpal maybe I have to test without the linux32
1208182694 M * Drahpal ?
1208182732 M * daniel_hozac that doesn't matter.
1208182884 J * cryptronic ~oli@p54A3B346.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
1208182900 M * Drahpal the error : http://pastebin.com/d63945a65
1208182931 M * Drahpal the command: http://pastebin.com/d7720611c
1208182934 M * daniel_hozac that just looks like the Debian package of yum is completely broken.
1208182943 M * daniel_hozac file a bug.
1208182990 M * sid3windr yum workedforme(tm) on debian
1208182999 M * Drahpal Yes, I will... but, what is the solution other than waiting?
1208183012 M * Drahpal sid3windr: which version of debian do you have?
1208183018 M * sid3windr etch
1208183028 M * daniel_hozac try installing the python gpgme bindings, see if that works.
1208183054 M * Drahpal daniel_hozac: it is already there
1208183079 M * Drahpal but it seems to have changed
1208183200 J * _gh_ ~gerrit@c-67-169-199-103.hsd1.or.comcast.net
1208183464 M * heanol http://linux-vserver.org/Disk_Limits_and_Quota <- is this the recomended way of doing disk quotas?
1208183598 M * daniel_hozac http://oldwiki.linux-vserver.org/Disk+Limits is the more verbose page.
1208183620 M * daniel_hozac there are two separate issues to talk about with regard to quotas and disk limits though.
1208183648 M * daniel_hozac quotas are used to refer to user/group quotas inside the guest.
1208183672 M * daniel_hozac disk limits refer to limiting a guest to a specific amount on a filesystem.
1208183695 M * heanol ah
1208183708 M * heanol well what i want is disk limits then
1208183724 M * heanol do i need the tagxid stuff for that?
1208183730 M * heanol since the newer article doesn't mention it all..
1208183744 M * Drahpal sid3windr: do you have a centos4 template ?
1208183761 M * sid3windr no, I did fedora :/
1208183779 M * Drahpal :), I try
1208183779 M * daniel_hozac yes, otherwise the kernel doesn't keep track of which context a file belongs to.
1208183880 M * heanol daniel_hozac: oh, ok.. i thought it'd know that since the files are under the root of the context
1208183938 M * daniel_hozac one file can exist in multiple guests at the same time.
1208184009 M * heanol oh
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1208185035 M * JonB can i adjust the linux-vserver tcp timeout? and make it wait longer?
1208185056 M * Bertl yep, on the host, as usual for networking
1208185076 M * JonB Bertl: i dont know anything usual about this ;-)
1208185394 Q * JonB Quit: This computer has gone to sleep
1208185413 Q * micah Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1208185540 J * ema ~ema@rtfm.galliera.it
1208185677 J * dowdle ~dowdle@scott.coe.montana.edu
1208186271 Q * _gh_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1208186276 J * micah ~micah@micah.riseup.net
1208186309 Q * micah Remote host closed the connection
1208186403 J * jakesolid ~jakesolid@h-64-105-248-183.miatflad.covad.net
1208186616 M * jakesolid quick question. How can I add a virtual IP to a guest account? I tried doing from the guest system using ifconfig and it gave me Permission denied messages
1208186680 M * Bertl first, there are no 'virtual' ips, thus they cannot be added :)
1208186696 M * Bertl second, networking happens on the host, so that is not unexpected
1208186710 M * jakesolid so i cannot add another public IP address to a guest system?
1208186714 J * ISSAMNEO1 ~ISSAMNEO1@196.203.207.50
1208186722 M * Bertl third, adding a _real_ (not virtual) IP to a guest can be done with naddress
1208186729 M * daniel_hozac (and ip addr add)
1208186814 M * jakesolid thanks
1208186838 M * Bertl you're welcome!
1208187177 J * micah ~micah@micah.riseup.net
1208187750 M * jakesolid it seems that my vserver doesnt have the naddress command. where can I get it?
1208187755 M * jakesolid i'm running util-vserver-0.30.210-0
1208187767 M * Bertl upgrading, upgrading, upgrading ...
1208187776 M * Bertl we are at 0.30.215 atm
1208188008 M * jakesolid ok
1208188092 M * heanol Bertl: did you see, i found the bug in klogd?
1208188121 M * Bertl yes, but you didn't tell what it was :)
1208188147 M * heanol well, it was basically like this:
1208188165 M * heanol fd = open("/proc/kallsyms"); if (fd == NULL) { fclose(fd); }
1208188169 M * heanol passing NULL to fclose :p
1208188177 P * jakesolid 
1208188183 M * heanol others had found it before me though
1208188186 M * heanol http://lists.infodrom.org/infodrom-sysklogd/2008/0003.html
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1208188286 M * Bertl nice
1208188322 M * heanol yeah, too bad there's not a fixed ubuntu/debian-package
1208188574 J * vasko ~vasko@unreal.rainside.sk
1208188580 M * vasko hi all
1208188600 J * _gh_ ~gerrit@bi01p1.co.us.ibm.com
1208188640 M * Bertl heanol: in a few years ...
1208188673 M * heanol hehe
1208188738 J * julius_ ~julius@p57B24FC7.dip.t-dialin.net
1208188913 Q * ISSAMNEO1 Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1208188940 J * bonbons ~bonbons@2001:960:7ab:0:2c0:9fff:fe2d:39d
1208189123 Q * Julius Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1208189128 J * JonB ~NoSuchUse@77.75.164.169
1208189234 J * hijacker__ ~hijacker@213.91.163.5
1208189258 Q * hijacker_ Read error: Connection reset by peer
1208189395 P * Drahpal 
1208189560 J * ktwilight_ ~ktwilight@91.176.65.60
1208189703 J * larsivi ~larsivi@144.84-48-50.nextgentel.com
1208189833 Q * ktwilight Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1208189885 M * mess-mate Back; can't create a new vserver with 'newvserver' command.
1208189891 J * ISSAMNEO1 ~ISSAMNEO1@196.203.207.50
1208189904 M * mess-mate At the end want to connect to my router and nothing happen.
1208189935 M * mess-mate So only a ctrl-c terminate it.
1208190148 M * Bertl there is no newvserver command in util-vserver, IIRC
1208190170 M * Bertl you create new guests with 'vserver <name> build .... '
1208190181 M * Bertl see vserver - build --help for details
1208190293 Q * mrfree Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1208190442 M * mess-mate Bertl: there is a newvserver in the vserver-debiantools.
1208190464 M * Bertl which are deprecated because broken 
1208190484 M * Bertl i.e. use at own risk
1208190524 M * mess-mate bertl: ah, ok , now i've to reboot the machine to delete the partially created guest :(
1208190545 J * FireEgl FireEgl@2001:5c0:84dc:1:4:ff:fe00:1
1208190625 M * Bertl mess-mate: not really necessary, unless you have a broken kernel too
1208190711 M * mess-mate Bertl: i've made my kernel and is running perfectly.
1208190722 M * Bertl so no need to reboot then
1208190758 J * Drahpal ~rdavailla@lns-bzn-49f-62-147-174-146.adsl.proxad.net
1208190776 M * mess-mate But can't remove (delete) the partially created guest without a reboot to a old kernel. No way
1208190811 M * Drahpal I have another question, I want to make a template from an installed vserver, do I have to just tar.gz the vserver directory?
1208191227 Q * julius_ Remote host closed the connection
1208191243 J * Julius ~julius@p57B24FC7.dip.t-dialin.net
1208191336 Q * ISSAMNEO1 
1208191363 M * Bertl mess-mate: did you stop it? how do you try to remove it?
1208191904 P * Drahpal 
1208192542 Q * JonB Quit: This computer has gone to sleep
1208192636 Q * pmenier Quit: Konversation terminated!
1208193105 N * DoberMann DoberMann[PullA]
1208193741 M * mess-mate Bertl: i deleted the server after a reboot with an old kernel; there was no other way; couldn't remove anything.
1208193830 M * Bertl I really doubt that, but np with it either ...
1208194167 M * mess-mate Bertl: when a guest is running i can't delete him. And if i can't stop him ... i can't remove (delete) him. Really...
1208194201 M * Bertl you can _always_ stop a guest :)
1208194216 M * Bertl unless the kernel crashed and the context is locked
1208194308 M * mess-mate Bertl: the reason was maybe that context thing :) The kernel didn't crash, he's fine.
1208195214 M * mess-mate When building a new vserver he can't connect to my proxy of course; but the vserver is in the DMZ zone. So what happen there ?
1208196561 N * DoberMann[PullA] DoberMann
1208197618 P * mess-mate 
1208199287 J * JonB ~NoSuchUse@77.75.164.169
1208200217 Q * bzed Remote host closed the connection
1208200226 J * bzed ~bzed@devel.recluse.de
1208200781 J * mess-mate ~chatzilla@ALille-254-1-72-211.w86-207.abo.wanadoo.fr
1208200858 M * mess-mate Hi folks
1208200891 M * mess-mate My vserver can't reach outside the host. 
1208200914 M * mess-mate Mean my guest
1208201104 M * JonB mess-mate: can your host?
1208201216 Q * mick_work Remote host closed the connection
1208201654 Q * jsambrook Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1208201675 J * Infinito ~argos@201-11-169-181.gnace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br
1208201689 J * DLange ~dlange@p57A30CFA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
1208201739 M * Bertl mess-mate: check with ping on the host
1208201756 M * Bertl mess-mate: something like 'ping -I <guest-ip> www.google.com
1208201793 J * Piet ~piet@tor.noreply.org
1208201970 J * ftx ~ftx@dslb-084-060-226-224.pools.arcor-ip.net
1208201974 Q * ftx Read error: Connection reset by peer
1208202036 M * mess-mate JonB: yes host can
1208202063 M * mess-mate Bertl: ping to host and from host ok.
1208202126 M * mess-mate host is located in the DMZ zone
1208202313 M * mess-mate I'll retry an other vserver setup guest...
1208202447 M * JonB mess-mate: which ethernet device and ip address did you assign the guest?
1208202483 M * mess-mate JonB: 192.168.30.1/24
1208202564 M * JonB and the host?
1208202581 M * mess-mate JonB: 192.168.20.1
1208202597 M * JonB what is the default router?
1208202631 M * Bertl mess-mate: did you try the ping I suggested?
1208202681 M * mess-mate JonB: default router 192.168.20.254
1208202700 Q * FireEgl Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1208202726 M * JonB mess-mate: does that router know how to reach 192.168.30 ?
1208202731 M * mess-mate Bertl: yes i did.
1208202755 M * mess-mate JonB: yes, the ping works
1208202796 M * Bertl if that ping works, try to ping from inside the guest
1208202812 M * Bertl but do not use the name, use the IP of www.google.com
1208202982 M * mess-mate Bertl: i don't know the ip of google :(
1208202999 M * Bertl well, it was shown in the ping you reported succeeding :)
1208203121 M * mess-mate Bertl: i pinged the dns-server of my ifa, it do not work
1208203144 M * mess-mate Can't get outside to the net
1208203146 J * BartVB ~bartvb@35-80-ftth.onsneteindhoven.nl
1208203154 M * Bertl try with the same ip as you did on the host
1208203333 M * mess-mate Bertl: ping won't work but i can go to the web with for ex. links www.google.com
1208203354 J * FireEgl ~FireEgl@adsl-226-25-92.bhm.bellsouth.net
1208203438 M * Bertl mess-mate: okay, doesn't tell you anything
1208203482 M * JonB mess-mate: does that router know how to reach 192.168.30.1 ?
1208203803 J * jsambrook ~jsambrook@aelfric.plus.com
1208203984 M * mess-mate JonB: no, but there is no reason to; the guest is in the DMZ zone
1208204007 M * JonB mess-mate: thats not true
1208204016 M * JonB mess-mate: the router has a default route
1208204036 M * JonB if the router does not know what to do with 192.168.30.x packets, it will send it out to it's default router
1208204328 M * mess-mate JonB: i'll check the firewall of the router..
1208204344 M * JonB good
1208204354 M * JonB try to run a network sniffer while pinging
1208204364 M * Bertl mess-mate: the important fact is that all networking happens on the host
1208204382 M * Bertl mess-mate: so you can test all the stuff _on_the_host_ with the guest ips
1208205036 J * yarihm ~yarihm@84-75-103-252.dclient.hispeed.ch
1208205088 M * mess-mate Bertl: i've setted the guest on the same network (192.168.20.) of the host. And now i can access the web and the router
1208205134 M * Bertl which just means that your router now accepts the ip
1208205160 M * Bertl again, ping and telnet from the host with the guest IP will confirm this
1208205374 Q * Julius Quit: Verlassend
1208205426 M * mess-mate Bertl: pinging from the host to the guest works
1208205538 M * mess-mate and pinging to the router works also from the guest
1208205544 Q * Infinito Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1208205574 M * mess-mate So yhe guest must be in the same network of the host ???
1208205590 M * mess-mate the
1208205592 M * Bertl mess-mate: no
1208205621 M * Bertl mess-mate: and pinging the host from the guest and vice versa always works, unless you block lo 
1208205660 M * Bertl the important thing is that only setups work, which actually work, and there is no magical virtual networking or routing between guest and host
1208205702 M * mess-mate Bertl: do you mean there is something wrong with at the router ?
1208205747 M * Bertl no, just that if 'ping -I <some-ip> www.google.com' works (on the host) then a guest using <some-ip> will also work (with ping in the guest)
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1208206695 J * _gh_ ~gerrit@bi01p1.co.us.ibm.com
1208206945 Q * dna Quit: Verlassend
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1208207910 M * Bertl off to bed now ... good night everyone! 
1208207914 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ
1208208268 J * nou Chaton@2001:6f8:328:bbc:6666:6667::
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1208208392 J * jsambrook ~jsambrook@aelfric.plus.com
1208209584 J * ritter__ ~lownoize@p5B07612C.dip.t-dialin.net
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1208210774 P * mess-mate 
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1208211886 N * DoberMann DoberMann[ZZZzzz]
1208212248 J * Infinito ~argos@201-10-157-130.gnace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br
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1208214104 J * mattzerah ~matt@121.50.220.134
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1208214660 J * Aiken ~james@121.45.192.61
1208214976 M * heanol is there any performance issue with tagxid?
1208214988 M * daniel_hozac no.
1208215008 Q * DLange Quit: Bye, bye. Hasta luego.
1208215026 M * heanol just curious why it's not recomended to use it on your root filesystem (i don't)
1208215094 M * daniel_hozac well, it's annoying to use rootflags=tagxid, and if you wanted to disable it you'd have to reboot the host.
1208215129 M * daniel_hozac also, it's an extra permissions check that might not work as intended.
1208215129 M * heanol yeah
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1208215590 N * mattzerah mattzerah`afk
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