1206576475 M * Bertl okay, off to bed now ... have a good one everyone! cya! 1206576480 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ 1206576903 Q * ntrs_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1206577071 Q * hparker Quit: Read error: 104 (Peer reset by connection) 1206581710 Q * dna_ Quit: Verlassend 1206582021 Q * yarihm Quit: Leaving 1206582505 Q * xdr_ Read error: Connection reset by peer 1206583619 Q * nenolod Quit: restarting for kernel update... 1206584760 J * nenolod ~nenolod@ip70-189-74-69.ok.ok.cox.net 1206586320 J * fatgoose_ ~samuel@76-10-149-199.dsl.teksavvy.com 1206586320 Q * fatgoose Read error: Connection reset by peer 1206587395 Q * Infinito Quit: Leaving 1206588962 Q * weasel Read error: Connection reset by peer 1206588968 J * weasel weasel@weasel.chair.oftc.net 1206590683 Q * bronson Quit: Ex-Chat 1206590691 J * bronson ~bronson@adsl-68-122-117-135.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net 1206594778 Q * balbir Read error: Operation timed out 1206598293 J * sharkjaw ~gab@64.28.12.166 1206598694 M * etteyafed Anyone know how to change update a vserver's pkgcfgbase-dir 1206598859 J * balbir ~balbir@59.145.136.1 1206599243 M * daniel_hozac etteyafed: why would you want to? 1206599267 M * etteyafed I moved /vservers to /var/vservers 1206599295 M * etteyafed maybe wrongly, but I assumed that was allowed provided I changed all those symlinks 1206599351 M * daniel_hozac it's best to rebuild the utils with the new path... 1206599368 M * daniel_hozac otherwise you'll have to update /usr/lib*/util-vserver/util-vserver-vars. 1206599448 M * etteyafed I just created a symlink to the new location 1206600614 J * ntrs_ ~ntrs@77.29.69.159 1206601080 J * Slydder ~chuck@194.59.17.53 1206601996 J * virtuoso_ ~s0t0na@ppp91-122-171-64.pppoe.avangarddsl.ru 1206602372 Q * virtuoso Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1206602605 J * JonB ~NoSuchUse@77.75.164.169 1206603180 J * mrfree ~mrfree@host1-89-static.40-88-b.business.telecomitalia.it 1206603288 Q * mrfree Remote host closed the connection 1206604148 J * mrfree ~mrfree@host1-89-static.40-88-b.business.telecomitalia.it 1206604940 Q * JonB Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1206606112 J * cryptronic ~oli@p54A3B53A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de 1206606408 J * dna ~dna@179-241-dsl.kielnet.net 1206606526 J * JonB ~NoSuchUse@77.75.164.169 1206607023 J * tobifix ~tobifix@IVV7KNALLER.UNI-MUENSTER.DE 1206607389 N * DoberMann[ZZZzzz] DoberMann 1206607479 J * gebura ~gebura@77.192.186.197 1206607618 Q * JonB Quit: This computer has gone to sleep 1206607698 M * gebura hi 1206610299 J * pmenier ~pme@LNeuilly-152-22-72-5.w193-251.abo.wanadoo.fr 1206610311 J * DavidS ~david@85.124.123.7 1206610347 M * DavidS hi! I've got my openvpn server in a vserver now up and running 1206610370 M * DavidS I'll repair the FAQ on the wiki .. shall i delete the respective section on oldwiki? 1206610426 M * daniel_hozac the oldwiki is immutable. 1206610426 J * JonB ~NoSuchUse@77.75.164.169 1206610530 M * DavidS ok 1206612155 J * ntrs__ ~ntrs@77.29.64.252 1206612156 M * DavidS http://linux-vserver.org/index.php?title=Frequently_Asked_Questions&diff=3025&oldid=2983 1206612163 M * DavidS feedback appreciated 1206612212 M * daniel_hozac note that the utils can create tuns now. 1206612218 Q * etteyafed Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1206612248 M * DavidS I'm stuck with .212 from etch 1206612259 M * daniel_hozac backports.org should have 0.30.215 once it hits testing. 1206612325 M * cryptronic daniel_hozac is there a paper where it is described how the tun should be created? 1206612338 Q * JonB Quit: This computer has gone to sleep 1206612357 M * daniel_hozac not really, no. 1206612378 M * daniel_hozac you just touch /etc/vservers//interfaces/X/tun (or tap). 1206612426 M * daniel_hozac (this also sets the nid automatically on kernels that support it, so that only that guest will be able to use it) 1206612466 M * cryptronic thanks, i'll test that and if it works i'll write it in the wiki 1206612485 M * daniel_hozac you can also set linktype, uid, gid, nocsum and shared (which disabled the nid-assignment) 1206612522 M * daniel_hozac http://www.nongnu.org/util-vserver/doc/conf/configuration.html 1206612578 Q * ntrs_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1206613177 M * DavidS one thing that took me hours to figure out is that openvpn needs to have the txqueuelen set on the link 1206613180 M * DavidS :-/ 1206613398 J * JonB ~NoSuchUse@77.75.164.169 1206613805 M * cryptronic daniel_hozac, what are possible values for linktype? 1206614087 J * ftx ~ftx@dslb-084-060-242-093.pools.arcor-ip.net 1206614714 M * gebura cryptronic, i think all values accepted by tun/tap interfaces 1206614720 M * gebura like EN10MB 1206614745 M * gebura but i don't used and know tun/tap interfaces types 1206614923 M * cryptronic so linktype could also be pointopoint? 1206614950 J * daniel_hozac_ ~daniel@2001:16d8:ff15:100::102 1206614967 Q * daniel_hozac Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1206615297 J * friendly12345 ~friendly@ppp121-44-224-29.lns2.mel4.internode.on.net 1206615827 M * daniel_hozac_ cryptronic: 0-65535. 1206615831 N * daniel_hozac_ daniel_hozac 1206615889 Q * pmenier Read error: Connection reset by peer 1206615903 J * pmenier ~pme@LNeuilly-152-22-72-5.w193-251.abo.wanadoo.fr 1206615992 M * cryptronic what settings are needed to get a pointopoint interface? 1206617066 M * daniel_hozac tun interfaces are pointopoint automatically. 1206617095 M * cryptronic okay thanks 1206618218 Q * balbir Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1206619109 Q * friendly12345 Quit: Leaving. 1206619324 J * Julius ~julius@p57B277E3.dip.t-dialin.net 1206619707 J * xdr ~xdr@199-173-96-87.cust.blixtvik.se 1206620402 N * virtuoso_ virtuoso 1206622183 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl 1206622198 M * Bertl morning folks! 1206622493 M * gebura morning Bertl ! 1206622493 Q * sladen Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1206622778 Q * arachnist Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1206623139 M * yang hey Bertl you once told me that kernel logger is useless on a guest system, however if I try removing "klogd" it want to remove the whole syslogd package on debian, but I would like to see the syslog its usefull 1206623193 M * daniel_hozac rm -f /etc/rc?.d/S??klogd 1206623218 M * daniel_hozac or, if you prefer, for i in /etc/rc?.d/S??klogd; do mv $i ${i/S/K}; done 1206623259 M * yang but klogd and syslogd are different packages, you cannot remove klogd without removing syslogd 1206623286 M * Bertl strictly speaking, that is a debian dependancy bug :) 1206623289 M * yang with aptitude i mean 1206623290 M * daniel_hozac just remove the symlinks. 1206623314 M * yang daniel_hozac: allright 1206623848 J * sladen paul@starsky.19inch.net 1206624170 Q * Slydder Quit: Leaving. 1206624229 Q * JonB Quit: This computer has gone to sleep 1206624301 Q * Aiken Remote host closed the connection 1206625608 J * JonB hidden-use@192.38.9.151 1206625637 J * virtuoso_ ~s0t0na@ppp91-122-103-151.pppoe.avangarddsl.ru 1206625883 Q * ||Cobra|| Remote host closed the connection 1206626047 Q * virtuoso Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1206626141 J * Piet ~piet@86.59.21.38 1206626145 J * ||Cobra|| ~cob@pc-csa01.science.uva.nl 1206626409 J * ftx_ ~ftx@dslb-084-060-217-141.pools.arcor-ip.net 1206626789 Q * ftx Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1206627643 J * daniel_hozac_ ~daniel@ssh.hozac.com 1206627658 Q * daniel_hozac Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1206628262 Q * JonB Quit: This computer has gone to sleep 1206628787 J * dowdle ~dowdle@67-42-224-198.blng.qwest.net 1206628937 J * JonB hidden-use@192.38.9.151 1206630197 N * ensc Guest2808 1206630197 Q * Guest2808 Read error: Connection reset by peer 1206630207 J * ensc ~irc-ensc@77.235.182.26 1206630345 Q * JonB Quit: This computer has gone to sleep 1206630565 J * balbir ~balbir@122.167.222.125 1206630830 N * ensc Guest2810 1206630831 Q * Guest2810 Remote host closed the connection 1206630865 J * ensc ~irc-ensc@77.235.182.26 1206631087 Q * ensc Remote host closed the connection 1206631149 J * ensc ~irc-ensc@77.235.182.26 1206631576 Q * tobifix Quit: Leaving 1206633082 J * tobifix ~tobifix@muedsl-82-207-205-008.citykom.de 1206633218 J * docelic ~docelic@78.134.200.134 1206633263 J * julius_ ~julius@p57B255FB.dip.t-dialin.net 1206633451 M * weasel so, 1206633454 M * weasel where are we with 2.6.24 support? 1206633511 M * Supaplex and with 2.3? :) 1206633519 M * Bertl pre patches, nothing really new there 1206633585 M * glen_ daniel_hozac_, did you had chance to look pld patch? :) 1206633601 Q * sharkjaw Remote host closed the connection 1206633619 M * Bertl weasel: any specific reason for asking? 1206633656 M * weasel Bertl: 2.6.22 is not really supported anymore. 1206633663 M * weasel i.e. no new .y updates 1206633665 J * rgl ~rgl@lx2-84-90-11-254.netvisao.pt 1206633668 M * rgl hi 1206633683 Q * Julius Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1206633697 M * Supaplex ipv6+sid users want to know :) 1206633706 M * Bertl weasel: well, maybe you want to help a little with 2.6.24 then :) 1206633745 M * Supaplex can I too? I'm no code monkey, but what can I do? 1206633758 M * weasel Bertl: I'm busy enough just keeping all the systems running that I have. I really don't have time to code on vserver. and I'll have to look at alternatives too if there will not be new versions of it 1206633767 J * ntrs_ ~ntrs@77.29.71.157 1206633796 M * Bertl weasel: feel free to do so ... 1206633804 Q * DavidS Quit: Leaving. 1206633808 M * weasel well, I don't *want* to, that's my point :) 1206633810 M * harry Bertl: what are the problems? 1206633831 M * Bertl mainly available time on my side 1206633838 M * harry can i do something? 1206633855 M * Bertl on the kernel side, we have to solve a bunch of newly introduced mainline issues 1206633868 M * harry as in "i'm not a super kernel coder", is there something "humanly possible" for me? 1206633875 M * harry i could do some debugging? 1206633889 Q * balbir Read error: Operation timed out 1206633896 M * Bertl first, we are out of capabilities ... so we need to switch to 64bit caps or something like that 1206633912 M * harry that's not gonna be easy 1206633914 M * harry how comes? 1206633925 M * harry are all caps used in 2.6.24 ? 1206633928 M * Bertl well, mainline used up the last cap 1206633941 M * harry bastards :) 1206633954 M * harry won't that be a great performance impact ? 1206633969 M * harry switching to 64 bit stufff 1206633971 M * harry -f 1206633981 M * Bertl nah, not really (at least not if done properly) 1206634007 M * Bertl I suggested to address this issue about half a year ago, with several 'possible' solutions 1206634060 M * Bertl if I do not care about mainline, we can probably hack that together for Linux-VServer (in an non mainline way) 1206634078 M * Bertl then, we seem to have a newly introduced fake init issue 1206634100 M * Bertl (i.e. mainline added pid spaces to some extend, and those additions seem to break fake init) 1206634120 M * Bertl further, the scheduler changes break the hard cpu scheduler 1206634150 M * Bertl which means that a lot of testing in this area needs to be redone (after the hard cpu scheduler is adapted to the rb tree) 1206634180 M * harry awtsj... sounds quite... hard... 1206634185 M * harry doable... but hard 1206634197 Q * ntrs__ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1206634211 M * Bertl well, more time consuming ... but time is a scarce resource for me atm 1206634231 M * cryptronic is this all somewhere documented or is this only in your head Bertl? 1206634251 M * Bertl you mean, what needs to be done? 1206634278 M * cryptronic yes 1206634282 J * JonB hidden-use@192.38.9.151 1206634298 M * Bertl should be on the IRC log, but not on a wiki page yet 1206634377 M * cryptronic oic 1206634430 M * Bertl contributions from the community have almost stopped, so not too much chance that I can arrange some additional time ... 1206634491 M * cryptronic how much do you need to arrange additional time? 1206634566 M * Bertl as usual, all contributed money can be mapped directly into additional project time 1206634593 Q * JonB Quit: This computer has gone to sleep 1206634649 M * cryptronic how much time would 500$ bring? 1206634673 J * balbir ~balbir@122.167.203.237 1206634673 M * harry hehe... now we'll know how much Bertl makes in an hour ;) 1206634721 M * harry my biggest problem is... KULeuven decided they want to stick to vmware esx (they've got too much money), so there wont be money for vserver :( 1206634746 M * Bertl I'd say that would be worth at least 10-16 hours (and no, that's not my usual rate) 1206634859 M * Supaplex gsoc is around the corner isn't it? 1206634886 M * cryptronic would i get a donation receipt or bill for my money? 1206634938 M * Bertl I think I could arrange that, but of course, it complicates things for me ... 1206634976 M * cryptronic I'll have a talk with my financial consultant 1206634987 M * Bertl I could easily write an invoice though, depending on your company/country that will cost taxes 1206635041 M * cryptronic ok 1206635059 M * cryptronic what understandings are necessary to write patches? 1206635095 M * Bertl usually kernel internals and in this case, Linux-VServer internals too (if we are talking about Linux-VServer patches :) 1206635098 A * Supaplex knows a tad about diff, and patch 1206635136 M * cryptronic how do i best get into the Linux VServer internals? 1206635154 M * harry good q 1206635157 A * harry interested aswell 1206635162 M * harry i'll find some spare time ;) 1206635177 M * Bertl by reading the (quite self explanatory) source code of one of the split patches 1206635182 A * Supaplex hands harry a spare watch 1206635196 A * harry knows only about the parts that clash with grsec :) 1206635272 M * Supaplex harry: usermode linux sure thows that for a loop :P I haven't ventured for a uml+vserver guest 1206635295 M * cryptronic Bertl where to find all of the split patches? 1206635309 M * harry on the 13th floor i guess... ;) 1206635335 M * Bertl cryptronic: http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Experimental/split-2.6.22.10-vs2.2.0.5.tar.bz2 1206635425 M * cryptronic ok i'll have a look at that, thanks 1206635431 M * Bertl you're welcome! 1206635457 J * larsivi ~larsivi@144.84-48-50.nextgentel.com 1206635592 J * arachnist arachnist@088156188082.who.vectranet.pl 1206635593 Q * kwowt Read error: Connection reset by peer 1206636303 M * Bertl weasel: would a devel release be acceptable for you? 1206636330 M * weasel does it work? :) 1206636365 M * Bertl well, I could wrap one up with the 'known broken' stuff removed .. so yes, it would work, I guess 1206636366 J * JonB ~NoSuchUse@77.75.164.169 1206636535 M * weasel hmm. I suppose I could give it a try. not this week tho. I bet a lot of people would be interested in having 2.6.24 patches 1206636657 M * Bertl well, telling from the donations so far (which are about zero), I didn't get that impression 1206636823 M * tobifix ok, i see its time to donate 1206636823 M * tobifix :D 1206636826 M * tobifix gimme a sec 1206637342 M * tobifix Bertl, do you need some more dev hardware? 1206637356 M * tobifix i could provide a dual opteron system with 2 gigs of ram 1206637361 M * tobifix perhaps thats interesting 1206637362 M * tobifix :D 1206637373 M * sid3windr mm 1206637376 M * sid3windr I can use some dev hardware :> 1206637380 M * Bertl tobifix: how much disk space and what kind of access? 1206637391 M * tobifix full root access 1206637398 M * tobifix just need to put it in our datacentre 1206637413 Q * JonB Quit: This computer has gone to sleep 1206637417 M * tobifix atm it has 80gigs of space, but we can increase that 1206637433 M * Bertl tobifix: raid or plain storage? 1206637458 M * tobifix atm plain storage 1206637481 M * Bertl okay, what would be the options there? 1206637519 M * Bertl I currently use up about 90G of raid5 space (for the various kernel trees) 1206637520 Q * gebura Quit: Quitte 1206637533 M * tobifix i have to check if i got an old raid controller around then we can go -> hardware raid 1206637540 M * tobifix if nod a raid1 sw raid 1206637545 M * tobifix -d +t 1206637595 M * Bertl I have no problem with sw raid at all, are you willing to install that machine (in my case with mandriva 2008.0/1) as server, so that I could basically 'move in' without too many changes? 1206637607 M * tobifix yeah 1206637622 M * tobifix should be no problem 1206637647 M * tobifix how do you want the partitions? 1206637662 M * Bertl okay, great, sounds good to me ... when do you think it could be up and running? 1206637684 M * Bertl regarding partitions, a 15GB system partition is fine, the rest as storage/work space 1206637689 M * tobifix i will install it on sunday, then i am back in the datacenter 1206637718 M * tobifix so it will be on at sunday 1206637730 M * Bertl probably 10G should be more than sufficient for a server (on second thought) 1206637738 M * tobifix hrhr 1206637739 M * tobifix ok 1206637740 M * tobifix ;) 1206637768 M * Bertl my usual servers run on a 2G partition, but that needs some trickery 1206637785 M * tobifix ;) 1206637786 M * Bertl (and I don't want to spend any time on the setup) 1206637802 M * tobifix i will install it as you said 1206637803 M * tobifix ;) 1206637821 M * tobifix 10gig system and the rest as working space 1206637841 M * tobifix don't want a boot partition? 1206637861 M * Bertl excellent, just make sure that we have a raid active, I hate to lose valuable work 1206637873 M * tobifix don't worry := 1206637879 M * Bertl if you feel like it, that's mainly up to you (regarding boot) 1206637884 M * tobifix kk 1206637887 M * tobifix we'll see 1206637889 M * tobifix :) 1206637918 M * Bertl ftp://carroll.cac.psu.edu/pub/linux/distributions/mandrivalinux/devel/iso/2008.1/rc2/mandriva-linux-2008-spring-free-mini-rc2-aceras-dual.iso 1206637925 M * cryptronic i could sponsor a backup of this new hardware if there is interest 1206637941 M * cryptronic sry 1206637950 M * cryptronic backupspace i mean for backing up all the data 1206637983 M * Bertl raid should be fine, the patches end up on a second server anyways, so they should be backed up 1206638016 M * cryptronic okay 1206638039 M * tobifix ;) 1206638093 M * tobifix Bertl, download is in progress, i will install the system this evening or tomorrow and plug it in on sunday 1206638094 M * tobifix :) 1206638160 M * Bertl tobifix: thanks for the donation! what should I add to the Hall'o'Fame? (i.e. send me some details for an entry) 1206638246 M * tobifix i will sent the text with root password... ;) 1206638277 M * Bertl okay 1206638301 J * bonbons ~bonbons@2001:960:7ab:0:2c0:9fff:fe2d:39d 1206638587 M * tobifix Bertl, will install some webresetter, i think this will help to reduce maintenance 1206638831 M * Bertl not a top priority, will mainly be used for compiling stuff, not for the actual testing 1206639119 M * tobifix ok 1206640344 Q * pmenier Quit: Konversation terminated! 1206641078 Q * mrfree Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1206641729 J * etteyafed ~etteyafed@68-113-163-245.dhcp.plt.ny.charter.com 1206641827 M * etteyafed Anyone know if there are any Capability System Flags that pertain directly to selinux? 1206641972 J * xdr_ ~xdr@199-173-96-87.cust.blixtvik.se 1206641972 Q * xdr Read error: Connection reset by peer 1206642593 M * Bertl etteyafed: not that I'd know of, why? 1206642710 M * etteyafed I am having trouble setting up SE-PostgreSQL, and all the commands work in the Host system if I chroot into the vservers base dir 1206642751 M * etteyafed But there are other issues than just the possible SELinux ones. 1206642751 M * etteyafed Like failed mallocs 1206642905 M * etteyafed It looks like I need to give the vserver the ability to create shared memort segments, but I was sure that it was allowed to do that. 1206642950 M * etteyafed http://pastebin.com/d75ae1be4 is the crazy error from the log 1206643111 M * etteyafed loooks like I have a workaround for now 1206644129 M * Bertl okay 1206644888 J * JonB ~NoSuchUse@77.75.164.169 1206648158 Q * Piet Remote host closed the connection 1206648675 Q * arachnist Quit: brb 1206648686 J * arachnist arachnist@plzdie.kthxbai.pl 1206652283 Q * sladen Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1206653411 Q * bonbons Quit: Leaving 1206653575 J * Aiken ~james@ppp121-45-192-61.lns1.bne1.internode.on.net 1206653850 Q * dna Quit: Verlassend 1206654198 Q * larsivi Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1206654459 N * daniel_hozac_ daniel_hozac 1206654712 J * sladen paul@starsky.19inch.net 1206655382 J * ntrs__ ~ntrs@77.29.72.92 1206655801 Q * ntrs_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1206656668 Q * docelic Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1206656679 Q * sladen Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1206656750 J * docelic ~docelic@78.134.200.134 1206656828 Q * cryptronic Quit: Leaving. 1206656915 M * Bertl okay, off to bed now .. have a good one everonye! cya! 1206656920 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ 1206657189 Q * JonB Quit: Leaving 1206657247 J * JonB ~NoSuchUse@77.75.164.169 1206657633 N * DoberMann DoberMann[ZZZzzz] 1206657755 J * virtuoso ~s0t0na@ppp91-122-25-230.pppoe.avangarddsl.ru 1206657969 J * sladen paul@starsky.19inch.net 1206658163 Q * virtuoso_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1206658388 Q * rgl Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1206659171 Q * tobifix Quit: Leaving 1206659471 J * hparker ~hparker@208.188.248.81 1206660385 Q * JonB Quit: This computer has gone to sleep 1206660512 J * rgl ~rgl@lx2-84-90-11-254.netvisao.pt 1206660644 J * Linus ~nuhks@bl7-139-133.dsl.telepac.pt 1206660913 Q * hparker Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1206661242 Q * ftx_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1206661501 Q * ntrs__ Ping timeout: 480 seconds