1204157014 Q * jescheng Remote host closed the connection
1204157027 J * jescheng ~jescheng@proxy-sjc-2.cisco.com
1204157032 Q * dowdle Remote host closed the connection
1204157735 J * hparker ~hparker@linux.homershut.net
1204161162 Q * onox Quit: zZzZ
1204162148 Q * yarihm Quit: This computer has gone to sleep
1204162197 J * yarihm ~yarihm@84-75-103-252.dclient.hispeed.ch
1204162258 Q * yarihm 
1204162668 J * ktwilight_ ~ktwilight@232.92-66-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be
1204162668 Q * ktwilight Read error: Connection reset by peer
1204162716 J * esa` bip@ip-87-238-2-45.static.adsl.cheapnet.it
1204162737 Q * esa Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1204163123 Q * rgl_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1204164056 Q * jescheng Quit: Leaving
1204166276 J * wibble wibble@vortex.ukshells.co.uk
1204166571 J * so_ ~mbest@s010600119519e7c9.ed.shawcable.net
1204167793 P * so_ Leaving
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1204173207 Q * hparker Quit: Read error: 104 (Peer reset by connection)
1204173275 Q * ard6 cation.oftc.net venus.oftc.net
1204173275 Q * bzed cation.oftc.net venus.oftc.net
1204173275 Q * Knorrie cation.oftc.net venus.oftc.net
1204173462 J * doener_ ~doener@i577B91A9.versanet.de
1204173511 J * ntrs ~ntrs@vs079.rosehosting.com
1204173545 J * Knorrie knorrie@yoshi.kantoor.mendix.nl
1204173545 J * ard6 ~ard@2002:d9c4:2909:1::1
1204173545 J * bzed ~bzed@devel.recluse.de
1204173877 Q * doener Ping timeout: 480 seconds
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1204179943 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl
1204179948 M * Bertl morning folks!
1204180560 Q * FireEgl Read error: Connection reset by peer
1204180665 J * rgl_ ~rgl@lx2-84-90-10-215.netvisao.pt
1204181152 Q * rgl_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1204181419 J * FireEgl FireEgl@adsl-4-53-119.bhm.bellsouth.net
1204181539 M * Slydder morning all
1204182547 M * Supaplex no! nooooo! make it stop! anything but morning!
1204182560 M * Supaplex goodnight :D meh heh hehhh
1204182572 J * dna ~dna@49-230-dsl.kielnet.net
1204183004 J * mire__ ~mire@89-170-222-85.adsl.verat.net
1204183120 J * balbir ~balbir@59.145.136.1
1204183834 Q * mire__ Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1204184577 M * pmjdebruijn mornin
1204184666 J * JonB ~NoSuchUse@77.75.164.169
1204184687 J * ntrs ~ntrs@vs079.rosehosting.com
1204184953 J * rgl_ ~rgl@lx2-84-90-10-215.netvisao.pt
1204185966 Q * JonB Quit: This computer has gone to sleep
1204186817 J * gebura ~gebura@77.192.186.197
1204186895 M * Slydder i take it the 2.6.22.18 is the newest kernel i can use with the 2.3.0.32 patch?
1204186908 M * daniel_hozac should apply just fine to 2.6.22.19.
1204186916 M * daniel_hozac (except for the Makefile, of course)
1204186929 M * Slydder k. thought i had seen something to that effect but couldn't remember. lol
1204187477 Q * balbir Read error: Connection timed out
1204187509 J * balbir ~balbir@59.145.136.1
1204187612 M * gebura hi
1204187810 N * DoberMann[ZZZzzz] DoberMann
1204188242 J * JonB ~NoSuchUse@77.75.164.169
1204188524 M * Slydder daniel_hozac: how would i go about creating a patch file from the .19 patched kernel sources?
1204188554 M * Slydder the diff command that you guys use is what I mean
1204188922 M * Slydder do you guys use diff -uNr or something different?
1204189055 Q * JonB Quit: This computer has gone to sleep
1204190075 M * Bertl diff -NurpP --minimal here :)
1204190493 Q * xdr Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1204190599 M * snooze -Nurp is good, its easy to remember :D
1204191027 M * Slydder i did a diff -uNr here and and then patched a fresh .19 kernel and it seems to be ok.
1204191046 M * Slydder but will redo the diff and check the difference between the 2 methods
1204191469 Q * esa` Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1204191537 M * Slydder good. now i have patch-2.6.22.19-vs2.3.0.32.diff
1204191823 J * jsambrook ~jsambrook@aelfric.plus.com
1204192477 J * xdr ~xdr@16-173-96-87.cust.blixtvik.se
1204192493 J * JonB ~NoSuchUse@130.227.63.19
1204192539 J * ^jan ~jan@83.Red-80-33-9.staticIP.rima-tde.net
1204192658 M * ^jan hi all
1204192705 A * ard6 thin -purN sounds better :-)
1204192707 M * JonB hi jan
1204192709 M * ^jan sorry to ask, I am not sure if this can disturb someone..  but there is a way to limit HDD space in a vserver?
1204192746 M * ^jan currently I am using virtual disks but I guess it is not the best way to limit them
1204192767 M * JonB jan: i think you can use quotas
1204192854 M * ^jan mmm... well... about quotas I was going to ask about them too, because inside some vservers I am using cpanel and it does not shows correctly assigned quotas, no idea why
1204192888 M * Slydder ^jan: cause cpanel is shit
1204192891 M * Slydder ;)
1204192926 M * ard6 ^jan : are you talking about space per user in a vserver or space per vserver?
1204192948 M * ktwilight_ a shit that makes money Slydder ;P
1204192954 M * xdr I just HATE when my cats hit my reboot button, but today I made it impossible... I unplugged it
1204192998 M * Slydder ktwilight_: yeah. but if i NEED a control panel for domains and such i just install webcp. it's free and i can do with it what i wish.
1204193027 M * Slydder and i can use just about anything i want on the backend.
1204193066 M * ktwilight_ cool
1204193067 M * ^jan ard6: both... space per vserver first, in order to avoid to use virtual disk.. and once inside a vserver space per user (like cpanel manages using quotas inside vserver)
1204193194 M * padde how do you guys get an overview over memory usage within the guests?
1204193212 M * JonB xdr: do you reboot so often you have a reboot button?
1204193214 M * padde vtop isn't suitable, because i see a lot of apache2 processes, but don't know to which vserver they belong
1204193397 M * JonB padde: vps?
1204193442 M * ard6 ^jan : space per vserver is on the fly with dlimits
1204193477 M * padde JonB: thanks
1204193531 M * ard6 ^jan : http://www.nongnu.org/util-vserver/doc/conf/configuration.html and look for dlimits
1204193549 M * xdr JonB: the compu's been standing in a wardrobe so it hasn't been useful to remove it :)
1204193554 M * ard6 The kernel will keep a size counter in memory per limit you give.
1204193566 M * JonB xdr: okay
1204193577 M * ^jan ard6: thanks, reading..
1204193577 M * ard6 You must initially tell the kernel how much it already uses, so if you configure it, restart the vserver
1204193596 M * ard6 with vdlimit you can change stuff on the fly afterwards
1204193708 M * xdr JonB: though the cats love to play among the cables close to the compu...wich has resulted in an endless amount of unwanted reboots
1204193728 M * ^jan mmm.. and using that you think quotas will be available inside vservers in order to manage user spaces inside vserver?
1204193821 M * Bertl ^jan: disk limits (dlimits) != user/group quota
1204193852 M * JonB xdr: *grin*
1204193977 M * ^jan Bertl: I mean, once vserver is created using dlimits then seems there is a problem using quotas inside OS installed in vserver (or I maybe I am wrong and quotas are possible inside any kind of vserver with no problem)
1204194036 Q * padde Remote host closed the connection
1204194041 M * xdr JonB: so I had the choices: "two nice furry hats" or "unplug the reboot button" ..my gf suggested the second of the two options
1204194081 J * padde ~padde@patrick-nagel.net
1204194096 M * ard6 ^jan : as Bertl said: dlimits and quota's have nothing to do with eachother... if the quota works it will keep working.
1204194262 M * ^jan ard6: but, mmm, the vservers roots have to be located inside vdisks for that? haven't they?
1204194274 M * ^jan ard6: so the blimits functionality will be lost if we have to give x2 or,x3 'reserved space' for this kind of situations
1204194403 M * ^jan sorry.. vroot I mean
1204194525 M * Bertl ^jan: quota work fine, if you have a separate partition for each guest (using vroot will make it secure too)
1204194686 M * ^jan Bertl: thanks, I was guessing this.
1204194737 A * ard6 fortunately only uses dlimits :-)
1204194801 M * Bertl ^jan: what you lose when you really need/want user/group quotas is the unification advantage
1204194924 M * JonB xdr: i bet if you made those nice furry hats you might as well have unplugged your relationship with your GF
1204195005 M * ^jan Berlt: well, what I need is to use cpanel inside vservers in a way that I do not need to create a bigger partition everytime that one is plemty... I wanted just to change parameters in dlimits or something like this instead to waste hdd space and time with this movings
1204195039 J * esa ~esa@ip-87-238-2-45.static.adsl.cheapnet.it
1204195048 M * Bertl should work fine, if you manage to convince cpanel :)
1204195050 M * xdr JonB: yes, that's true ... :)
1204195157 M * JonB xdr: and i doubt you want that
1204195387 M * xdr JonB: nah, I kinda like her and wanna marry her ;)
1204195485 J * mire__ ~mire@89-170-222-85.adsl.verat.net
1204195605 M * JonB xdr: you lucky bastard. Mine just left me :-(
1204195703 M * Bertl nap attack ... bbl
1204195711 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ
1204196829 M * xdr JonB: I just realised that I really should marry her, missed her birthday, valentines day and our year day and she forgived me
1204197365 J * pmenier ~pme@LNeuilly-152-22-72-5.w193-251.abo.wanadoo.fr
1204197501 Q * friendly12345 Quit: Leaving.
1204197853 A * ard6 thinks if you give the fur a chance, it will code perfectly
1204197858 M * ard6 at least better than most 8-D
1204197899 M * JonB xdr: dont you have a mobile with a calendar?
1204197918 M * JonB xdr: just setup an alert that reminds you some days before
1204197923 M * JonB xdr: or a cronscript
1204198011 J * friendly12345 ~friendly@ppp59-167-75-63.lns1.mel6.internode.on.net
1204198054 M * xdr JonB: I had 38,9C fever
1204198069 M * JonB xdr: that might explain why she forgave you
1204198475 J * chigital ~chigital@91.90.144.102
1204198482 Q * friendly12345 Quit: Leaving.
1204199025 J * Julius ~julius@p57B24C6F.dip.t-dialin.net
1204199855 N * pmenier pmenier_off
1204199919 M * padde damn, i just rebooted one of my vservers, and afterwards all the other three vservers didn't have network connectivity (which i didn't notice, until their users called me)
1204199948 M * padde the vserver i am using had network after the reboot... what did i do wrong?
1204199963 M * padde (this is on gentoo... may it have to do with the gentoo network scripts?)
1204199972 M * JonB padde: did all vserver guests start?
1204199993 M * padde JonB: the other three were still up and running
1204200018 M * JonB padde: what kind of ip address are they using? similar to the one that did come up?
1204200020 M * padde JonB: i entered one of them and checked 'route', and in the 'Interface' column there were only *, instead of 'eth0' as usual
1204200027 M * JonB padde: identical?
1204200034 M * JonB padde: identical ip addresses?
1204200036 M * padde JonB: all in the same subnet
1204200040 M * JonB padde: same ethernet devices?
1204200047 M * padde JonB: yes, all the same eth dev
1204200062 M * JonB strange
1204200093 M * padde JonB: i did a /etc/init.d/net.eth0 restart on the host, and every vserver had net again...
1204200102 M * padde JonB: i have to investigate further...
1204200108 M * JonB padde: ofc. you have
1204200144 M * JonB padde: which order are they starting in?
1204200164 M * padde JonB: the one i'm using is the first one
1204200190 M * padde JonB: (they're named vs1 through vs4)
1204200195 M * JonB padde: do you start anything network related after that?
1204200209 M * JonB padde: i give mine the name of the service they provide
1204200225 M * padde JonB: i don't think so
1204200245 M * padde JonB: well, all of them provide multiple services. they belong to different people
1204200259 M * JonB what runlevel do you run in?
1204200261 M * padde JonB: on each one there is an apache running, for example
1204200267 M * padde JonB: 'default'
1204200270 M * JonB padde: then i would give them the name of the owner
1204200299 M * padde JonB: when i set everything up, i didn't know the owner's names yet ;)
1204200300 M * JonB padde: what start number is the vserver startup script?
1204200306 M * JonB padde: okay
1204200318 M * padde JonB: no number. it's gentoo, the init system is different there
1204200324 M * padde JonB: it builds on dependencies
1204200334 M * JonB padde: oh
1204200383 M * JonB padde: i dont think i can help you, wait for Bertl_zZ or daniel_hozac 
1204200414 M * padde JonB: thanks for trying :)
1204200636 J * Punkie ~Punkie@goc.coolhousing.net
1204200733 J * julius_ ~julius@p57B25AF3.dip.t-dialin.net
1204200878 M * daniel_hozac padde: what does ip a show on the host?
1204200974 M * padde daniel_hozac: wait a second
1204201080 M * padde daniel_hozac: http://p173.de/gp/index.php?id=c0e062be4f
1204201094 M * padde daniel_hozac: something to do with the 'secondary' stuff?
1204201118 M * daniel_hozac the guest you restarted was 78.47.82.81/29, right?
1204201128 M * padde daniel_hozac: yes
1204201129 M * daniel_hozac you'll want to enable promote_secondaries.
1204201147 M * daniel_hozac /proc/sys/net/ipv4/conf/all/promote_secondaries
1204201147 M * padde i see. grepping the linux-vserver.org ;)
1204201154 M * padde oh, thanks
1204201172 Q * Julius Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1204201380 M * padde daniel_hozac: that won't give me any difference in 'ip a' output, right?
1204201393 M * daniel_hozac nope.
1204201403 M * daniel_hozac it just won't remove secondary addresses when you remove the primary.
1204201476 M * padde i see. thanks a lot :)
1204201930 Q * Aiken Remote host closed the connection
1204202289 Q * JonB Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1204202470 A * ard6 always advises to use a /32 on lo
1204202574 Q * padde Remote host closed the connection
1204202596 J * padde ~padde@patrick-nagel.net
1204203591 J * lilalinux ~plasma@80.69.41.3
1204203853 J * JonB hidden-use@192.38.9.151
1204203995 J * PfeifendesLicht ~Pfeifende@i5387BAA1.versanet.de
1204204012 M * PfeifendesLicht http://my-schamhaar.de/showpage.php?uid=89464
1204204038 Q * PfeifendesLicht 
1204204049 M * michiel` yeah right..
1204204061 M * michiel` I'm not going to check *that* url
1204204328 J * aj__ ~aj@51.42.69.80.in-addr.net-lab.net
1204204378 M * julius_ you could remove the id...^^
1204204467 M * michiel` julius_: still, I woudn't go to a site about someone's pubic hair :)
1204204516 M * julius_ me neither
1204204562 M * julius_ and it would still mean some profit for the guy who hosts that thing...
1204204573 M * michiel` hmhm
1204205243 J * ntrs_ ~ntrs@vs079.rosehosting.com
1204205642 Q * ntrs Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1204206108 Q * harry Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1204206188 M * Slydder ok. correct me if I am wrong but is there not a way to keep all needed packages and all for a guest install locally so I don't have to download them all the time?
1204206232 M * Slydder if so, is there a site where i can read up on it?
1204206812 Q * jsambrook Remote host closed the connection
1204206994 J * jsambrook ~jsambrook@aelfric.plus.com
1204207006 J * ftx ~ftx@dslb-084-060-233-013.pools.arcor-ip.net
1204207380 J * hparker ~hparker@linux.homershut.net
1204207707 J * ftx_ ~ftx@dslb-084-062-246-201.pools.arcor-ip.net
1204207856 M * Slydder and what is use dietlibc for and why when set to no (./configure --prefix=) i get the warning "you have been warned"?
1204208027 Q * ard6 Quit: BitchX-1.1-final -- just do it.
1204208073 Q * JonB Quit: Leaving
1204208143 Q * ftx Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1204208183 J * isydor isydor@a4nancy.globenet.org
1204209269 M * daniel_hozac Slydder: because you really should use dietlibc.
1204209923 J * ISSAMNEO1 ~ISSAMNEO1@196.203.177.124
1204209934 M * ISSAMNEO1 hi all
1204209949 M * Slydder daniel_hozac: and what about the distro files? ^^
1204209953 M * Slydder hey
1204210105 M * ISSAMNEO1 when i make a vserver using vserver build, my host is always connected to the internet
1204210114 M * ISSAMNEO1 and it don't found the internet connection it fail
1204210129 M * daniel_hozac Slydder: hmm?
1204210149 M * ISSAMNEO1 can i create vserver guest without being connected to the internet?
1204210221 M * Slydder ok. correct me if I am wrong but is there not a way to keep all needed packages and all for a guest install locally so I don't have to download them all the time?
1204210228 M * Slydder if so, is there a site where i can read up on it?
1204210273 M * daniel_hozac ISSAMNEO1: use one of the non-downloading methods, like clone or rsync.
1204210275 M * Slydder ISSAMNEO1: that is what I was asking before. cannot find enough info on it though
1204210335 M * hparker Setup a local mirror and use it
1204210344 M * daniel_hozac or use a proxy.
1204210879 Q * ISSAMNEO1 Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1204210899 J * ISSAMNEO1 ~ISSAMNEO1@196.203.177.121
1204211078 Q * balbir Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1204211486 M * ISSAMNEO1 locl mirror!!!
1204211507 M * ISSAMNEO1 is there any docs on how to do this or on the vserver build command
1204211525 M * daniel_hozac vserver - build --help
1204211575 M * Slydder ISSAMNEO1:  what distro do you want to mirror?
1204211607 M * Slydder debian is really easy. just install apt-mirror, configure it and restart it.
1204211627 Q * matthew_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1204211628 M * ISSAMNEO1 i use this command, and i don't understand alot of its option
1204211631 M * ISSAMNEO1 sudo vserver test build -m debootstrap --hostname test.mydomain.com --interface eth0:192.168.0.5/24 -- -d etch -m ftp://ftp.au.debian.org/debian/ -- --resolve-deps --arch i386
1204211722 M * ISSAMNEO1 i install apt-mirrot then what?
1204211726 J * JonB ~NoSuchUse@77.75.164.169
1204211864 M * Slydder ISSAMNEO1: the command will create a guest with the hostname of test.mydomain.com in the directory test (vserver internal name of test as well) with the ip that you provided, a netmask of 255.255.255.0 bound to eth0. you are using debootstrap to determin the initial files you will need for the install and the distro is etch (debian) which can be downloaded from ftp.au.debian.org and will automagically resolve all dependency problems while installing for the x
1204211910 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl_oO
1204212106 M * Slydder and here is a link to help you create a local mirror: http://www.howtoforge.com/local_debian_ubuntu_mirror
1204212633 M * ISSAMNEO1 thanks slyder
1204212641 M * ISSAMNEO1 what i dunno are
1204212653 M * ISSAMNEO1 -m : the build method
1204212669 M * ISSAMNEO1 etch, and you say it's a distro debian
1204212692 M * ISSAMNEO1 the -- before --resolve-deps
1204212694 M * Slydder that just tells vserver build where to find the list of files it will need to build the new guest
1204212713 M * Slydder in this case in debootstrap
1204212728 M * ISSAMNEO1 are there other than debootstrap?
1204212750 M * ISSAMNEO1 i think i've to read the vserver -build --help, then i will ask my question
1204212753 M * ISSAMNEO1 thanks all
1204212984 Q * gebura Quit: Quitte
1204213542 Q * weeble Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1204214189 J * weeble ~weeble@81.52.144.1
1204214951 J * bubulak ~bubulak@whisky.pendo.sk
1204214954 M * bubulak hi there
1204214987 M * bubulak how i can report bug and patch for util-vserver ? 
1204215068 M * michiel` bubulak: I guess you have to speak to daniel_hozac or Bertl
1204215077 M * bubulak hmm thanks
1204215153 J * harry ~harry@d54C363EF.access.telenet.be
1204216879 N * DoberMann DoberMann[PullA]
1204217481 M * ISSAMNEO1 i'm using ubuntu dapper as host
1204217554 M * ISSAMNEO1 each time i reboot the server i have to remove/install util-vserver and vserver-debiantools
1204217566 M * ISSAMNEO1 is there any solution to this?
1204217609 M * ISSAMNEO1 next question
1204217690 M * ISSAMNEO1 i will begin installing FAI server an a guest, if someone do it before, is there any difficulties or tip i have to take care about it? 
1204217763 Q * JonB Quit: This computer has gone to sleep
1204217935 J * dowdle ~dowdle@scott.coe.montana.edu
1204217986 J * balbir ~balbir@122.167.210.118
1204218075 M * daniel_hozac bubulak: the channel is always best...
1204218138 M * daniel_hozac ISSAMNEO1: use a recent util-vserver version.
1204218146 Q * lilalinux Remote host closed the connection
1204218286 M * bubulak daniel_hozac: yes i choose query :)
1204218304 M * daniel_hozac it's been fixed for months though.
1204218347 M * bubulak ou :( ok just one more
1204218373 M * bubulak on VIA CPUs thats script don't work
1204218382 M * bubulak beecause root@cicka:~# uname -i  
1204218382 M * bubulak CentaurHauls
1204218457 M * bubulak hmm 
1204218576 J * bonbons ~bonbons@2001:960:7ab:0:2c0:9fff:fe2d:39d
1204218663 M * bubulak nevermind
1204218677 M * bubulak just arch function don't work as i except
1204218921 N * pmenier_off pmenier
1204218937 M * ISSAMNEO1 i install util-vserver using apt-get so as i think it download the last one
1204218956 M * daniel_hozac you have 0.30.214-6?
1204218969 M * ISSAMNEO1 wait i will check
1204219030 J * matthew_ ~matthew@81.168.74.31
1204219230 M * ISSAMNEO1 how i check it apt-get util-version gives the version of apt
1204219242 M * bubulak dpkg -S 
1204219246 M * daniel_hozac dpkg -l util-vserver
1204219263 M * bubulak yy that :)
1204219294 M * ISSAMNEO1 i do apt-get update util-vserver :)
1204219314 Q * bzed Remote host closed the connection
1204219328 J * bzed ~bzed@devel.recluse.de
1204219331 M * ISSAMNEO1 dpkg -l util-vserver gives 0.30.210-6
1204219353 M * ISSAMNEO1  i do apt-get upgrade util-vserver :)
1204219362 M * ISSAMNEO1 will it solve the problem
1204219364 M * ISSAMNEO1 ?
1204219425 M * daniel_hozac assuming your distribution has a more recent version, yes.
1204219497 M * ISSAMNEO1 :) tomorrow i will know thanks all good night
1204219537 J * JonB ~NoSuchUse@77.75.164.169
1204219693 Q * ISSAMNEO1 
1204220962 J * DLange ~dlange@p57A31307.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
1204221037 Q * pmenier Quit: Konversation terminated!
1204221337 Q * chigital Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1204221732 N * Bertl_oO Bertl
1204222143 Q * JonB Quit: Leaving
1204222379 J * JonB ~NoSuchUse@77.75.164.169
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1204227843 M * Eagle[TM] Hi - quick question - with vs 2.2.x is it still necessary to set /vserver to chmod 000 or is it sufficient to just check the setattr --barrier is there?
1204227919 M * daniel_hozac the barrier is sufficient.
1204227947 M * Eagle[TM] thanks daniel!
1204228175 M * Eagle[TM] http://linux-vserver.org/Secure_chroot_Barrier at the end is a little confusing. At the end it states to set the barrier in every single guest rather than just for /vservers? Should it really make a difference and if so it would be great if that'd be pointed on that page more clearly.
1204228208 M * daniel_hozac guests can live in multiple filesystems. the barrier needs to be set on all of them.
1204228375 M * Eagle[TM] OK so the way I understand it: Without the individual barriers one could walk the filesystem between two guests but not of the main system? (most / all?) setup scripts for new guests don't set an inididual barrier so I guess that's something to watch out for? 
1204228451 M * daniel_hozac no, if you keep all the guests in one filesystem, setting the barrier on /vservers is enough.
1204228524 M * daniel_hozac but since that's not a requirement, (cd -P /etc/vservers/<guest>/vdir; setattr --barrier ..) is recommended.
1204228525 M * Eagle[TM] alright! thanks - now I understand - it's a per filesystem thing. Maybe it should be added to http://linux-vserver.org/Secure_chroot_Barrier :)?
1204228532 M * daniel_hozac feel free....
1204228554 M * Eagle[TM] heh ok. someone will correct me if I state it wrong I hope
1204228677 J * Knorrie- knorrie@yoshi.kantoor.mendix.nl
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1204228888 N * Knorrie- Knorrie
1204228889 M * Eagle[TM] daniel_hozac: you mean "cd -P /etc/vservers/<guest>; setattr --barrier .." right, without the vdir?
1204228912 P * Knorrie 
1204228960 M * daniel_hozac no, the vdir is a crucial part of the command...
1204229017 M * Eagle[TM] heh damn cd doesn't have a man page :) what does it do? create the directory?
1204229036 M * Eagle[TM] I mean -P
1204229047 M * daniel_hozac man bash
1204229051 M * Eagle[TM] ah lol true
1204229058 M * daniel_hozac -P uses the physical layout.
1204229063 M * daniel_hozac i.e. it follows symlinks.
1204229244 M * Eagle[TM] ah right - I misread /etc/vservers for /vservers/<guest> - now it all makes sense
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1204229613 M * Eagle[TM] Updated it: http://linux-vserver.org/Secure_chroot_Barrier#Solution:_Secure_Barrier hope that cuts it
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1204239770 M * rgl JonB, are you there?
1204239847 M * JonB yes
1204239880 M * rgl JonB, remember my problem with raid?
1204239924 M * JonB sort of, no details
1204239926 M * rgl JonB, I've been running with just one disk on the raid set now;  and I just did a  mdadm  /dev/md3 --add /dev/sdb7  to readd the second disk.
1204239946 M * JonB yes?
1204239956 M * JonB i remember more clearly now
1204239990 M * rgl JonB, it has started the "recovery" process.  does that mean its copying from the good HD (sda7) into the wrecked one?
1204240002 M * JonB yes that is what it means
1204240024 M * rgl you known why it says recovery and not resync?
1204240070 M * JonB rgl: sync might give you the idea that it syncronises data
1204240072 M * JonB it does not
1204240079 M * JonB it overwrites the added disk
1204240099 M * rgl JonB, I just wanted that *G*
1204240117 M * rgl that is, copy from sda7 to sdb7 *G*
1204240144 M * JonB rgl: and that is what it does
1204240184 M * rgl JonB, ah!  ok :)
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1204240514 M * rgl JonB, humm the mdadm --detail /dev/md3 says that sdb7 is "spare rebuilding" *G*
1204240533 J * mick_work ~clamwin@adsl-068-157-089-099.sip.bct.bellsouth.net
1204240554 M * JonB rgl: yes
1204240565 M * mick_work anyone have a cheatsheet for vservers?
1204240566 M * JonB rgl: when you add it, it is added as a spare
1204240582 M * mick_work i used to know how to use them -- my bash_history ran out
1204240588 M * mick_work now i need to create them again
1204240590 M * JonB mick_work: ctrl+leftshift+f*) is god mode
1204240603 M * rgl JonB, ah makes sense :)
1204240614 M * mick_work haha
1204240625 M * JonB rgl: and the spare is then immidiatly used because the raid needs a disk
1204240634 M * JonB rgl: if you add another it will only be a spare
1204240641 M * JonB mick_work: the homepage describes how
1204240748 M * mick_work create, delete, and copy 
1204240748 M * JonB rgl: anything else before i go to bed?
1204240754 M * mick_work pretty much the basics
1204240762 M * mick_work yaya, i'm looking at the wiki
1204240778 M * rgl JonB, this takes ages.  like 300 mins for 250G of data *G*
1204240790 M * rgl JonB, no I'm think I'm good.  thx!
1204240795 M * JonB rgl: yes, it does take a loooong time
1204240796 M * rgl JonB, sleep tight :)
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