1204070616 Q * dowdle Remote host closed the connection 1204072817 Q * chigital Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1204076247 M * Bertl off to bed now ... have a good one everyone! 1204076251 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ 1204077164 Q * rgl Quit: Saindo 1204086418 Q * Hollow Remote host closed the connection 1204086434 J * Hollow ~hollow@proteus.croup.de 1204087040 J * ntrs ~ntrs@vs079.rosehosting.com 1204087068 J * doener ~doener@i577BAEC1.versanet.de 1204087434 Q * ntrs_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1204087487 Q * doener_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1204089311 Q * nkukard Quit: Leaving 1204094939 J * virtuoso ~s0t0na@ppp91-122-59-151.pppoe.avangarddsl.ru 1204095266 J * aj__ ~aj@p5B23F91B.dip.t-dialin.net 1204095670 J * DLange ~dlange@p57A3150A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de 1204095810 Q * balbir Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1204095995 Q * aj__ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1204096138 J * JonB ~NoSuchUse@77.75.164.169 1204096465 J * balbir ~balbir@122.167.210.118 1204096526 J * aj__ ~aj@p5B23F91B.dip.t-dialin.net 1204096745 M * Slydder morning all 1204096797 M * hijacker morning Slydder 1204096805 M * hijacker 'sup ? 1204096907 M * Slydder working on the hosted snort server. 1204096916 M * Slydder vserver hosted that is 1204097767 M * hijacker excellent 1204097768 M * hijacker ;-) 1204097774 M * hijacker good luck. 1204097898 J * _bjh_ ~bjh@84.112.154.154 1204098205 Q * hparker Quit: Read error: 104 (Peer reset by connection) 1204099165 N * DoberMann[ZZZzzz] DoberMann 1204099210 J * dna ~dna@100-210-dsl.kielnet.net 1204100910 J * gebura ~gebura@77.192.186.197 1204101073 M * gebura morning folks ! 1204101310 Q * mire__ Read error: Operation timed out 1204101937 Q * aj__ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1204102240 Q * JonB Quit: This computer has gone to sleep 1204104100 J * bonbons ~bonbons@2001:960:7ab:0:2c0:9fff:fe2d:39d 1204104128 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl 1204104138 M * Bertl morning folks! 1204104538 M * gebura morning Bertl 1204105059 J * JonB ~NoSuchUse@130.226.210.8 1204105106 Q * dna Read error: Connection reset by peer 1204105200 J * dna ~dna@100-210-dsl.kielnet.net 1204105826 J * chigital ~chigital@91.90.144.102 1204106869 Q * FireEgl Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1204106877 M * Bertl okay, off for now .. bbl 1204106881 N * Bertl Bertl_oO 1204107013 J * nkukard ~nkukard@dsl-245-108-205.telkomadsl.co.za 1204107476 J * FireEgl FireEgl@adsl-4-53-119.bhm.bellsouth.net 1204108264 Q * nou Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1204108660 J * ntrs_ ~ntrs@vs079.rosehosting.com 1204108767 J * nou Chaton@causse.larzac.fr.eu.org 1204109060 Q * ntrs Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1204109409 N * Bertl_oO Bertl 1204109419 M * Bertl back now ... 1204109429 J * jsambrook ~jsambrook@anchor-internet-1-if0.router.demon.net 1204109542 M * harry wb 1204110387 M * sannes :) 1204111552 Q * nkukard Quit: Leaving 1204112054 J * pmenier ~pme@LNeuilly-152-22-72-5.w193-251.abo.wanadoo.fr 1204113716 J * Punkie ~Punkie@goc.coolhousing.net 1204114126 J * yang yang@yang.netrep.oftc.net 1204114208 Q * fatgoose Quit: fatgoose 1204114723 P * friendly12345 1204114987 J * hparker ~hparker@linux.homershut.net 1204115902 Q * Linus Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1204116559 J * Linus ~nuhks@bl7-149-165.dsl.telepac.pt 1204116629 J * mire__ ~mire@41-169-222-85.adsl.verat.net 1204117004 J * nkukard ~nkukard@196.212.73.74 1204118453 J * ftx ~ftx@dslb-084-060-216-152.pools.arcor-ip.net 1204118478 Q * ftx Remote host closed the connection 1204118622 J * ftx ~ftx@dslb-084-060-216-152.pools.arcor-ip.net 1204118994 Q * ftx Remote host closed the connection 1204120012 J * ISSAMNEO1 ~ISSAMNEO1@196.203.242.87 1204120020 M * ISSAMNEO1 hi all 1204120058 M * ISSAMNEO1 if i use this : 1204120063 M * ISSAMNEO1 sudo vserver test build -m debootstrap --hostname test.mydomain.com --interface eth0:192.168.0.5/24 -- -d etch -m ftp://ftp.au.debian.org/debian/ -- --resolve-deps --arch i386 1204120087 M * ISSAMNEO1 i create a guest using the ip adress 192.168.0.5 1204120092 M * ISSAMNEO1 BUT 1204120102 M * ISSAMNEO1 what happen if i use this syntax 1204120111 M * ISSAMNEO1 sudo vserver test build -m debootstrap --hostname test.mydomain.com -- -d etch -m ftp://ftp.au.debian.org/debian/ -- --resolve-deps --arch i386 1204120123 M * ISSAMNEO1 means without the eth0 1204120625 M * Bertl you then create a guest without network access 1204120964 Q * ||Cobra|| Remote host closed the connection 1204121154 J * ||Cobra|| ~cob@pc-csa01.science.uva.nl 1204121313 Q * xdr Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1204121417 M * gebura yes it will bind to the host adress 1204122018 Q * chigital Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1204122082 Q * Slydder Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1204122319 M * harry Bertl: are you there? 1204122352 M * harry Can't remove open logical volume "kromsinlv" 1204122357 M * harry ==> nogo 1204122361 M * harry and i don't get it 1204122376 M * harry it's not in any guest.. it's not mounted... 1204122383 M * harry what can i check? 1204122392 M * harry (since it's a production server: i can't just reboot 1204122426 Q * Aiken Remote host closed the connection 1204122464 M * Bertl could be used by a bind mount or similar 1204122484 M * harry nope... can't find it anywhere 1204122488 M * Bertl i.e. something keeping a reference and/or having a file open, try with lsof to detect 1204122490 M * harry i probably forget something 1204122497 M * harry lsof shows me nothing 1204122497 M * Bertl (lsof on the device node) 1204122526 M * harry the guest that was running there is stopped 1204122531 M * harry filesystem is unmounted 1204122555 J * chigital ~chigital@213.131.236.199 1204122577 M * Bertl harry: maybe it is 'just' set active? 1204122592 M * harry kromsinlv vservervg -wi-ao 3.00G 1204122603 M * harry then the o should not be there... just the a ;) 1204122629 M * harry gandalf:~# lvchange -a n /dev/vservervg/kromsinlv LV vservervg/kromsinlv in use: not removing 1204122633 M * Bertl sounds more like still used in a different namespace 1204122640 M * harry i think so too 1204122649 M * harry but i tried all namespaces... nothing! :( 1204122666 M * Bertl how did you manage to do that?! :) 1204122689 M * harry just keep the server running :) 1204122695 M * harry (and use lvm) 1204122740 M * Bertl nah, I'm wondering about the 'tried all namespaces...' because that's something the kernel does not really permit 1204123022 Q * nebuchadnezzar Remote host closed the connection 1204123464 J * nebuchadnezzar ~nebu@zion.asgardr.info 1204123796 M * Bertl nap attack ... bbl 1204123804 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ 1204123906 J * Slydder ~chuck@194.59.17.53 1204124689 Q * _bjh_ Quit: leaving 1204124722 Q * chigital Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1204125043 M * harry Bertl_zZ: then how do i check stuff? 1204125102 M * JonB harry: what are you trying to do? 1204125154 M * JonB harry: okay, reading back... 1204125168 M * JonB harry: can you find any lost processes in vps aux? 1204125179 M * harry neop 1204125192 M * JonB reboot 1204125212 M * harry 15:26 < harry> (since it's a production server: i can't just reboot 1204125248 M * JonB cant you force remove it? 1204125251 J * chigital ~chigital@91.90.144.102 1204125396 M * harry how would i do that? 1204125399 M * harry lvremove -f ? 1204125417 M * harry that gives me the same error (in use) 1204125535 M * JonB what if you force the devices offline? 1204125553 M * harry # open 2 1204125573 M * harry JonB: the devices??/ you mean the entire volumegroup? 1204125585 M * harry that would mean my guests would go down aswell 1204125588 M * JonB hmm 1204125591 M * JonB not good 1204125593 M * harry ==> production server again ;) 1204125601 M * harry i resized them to 4M now ;) 1204125744 M * harry still open count 2 :S 1204125766 M * JonB harry: looks like you have to schedule some downtime 1204125867 Q * brc resistance.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1204125913 Q * Radiance Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1204125925 A * harry wants fixes! 1204125934 M * JonB i gave you a fix already 1204126071 M * JonB harry: why is it needed to stop/remove it anyway? 1204126229 Q * Punkie Quit: Odcházím 1204126296 J * ema ~ema@rtfm.galliera.it 1204126349 M * harry JonB: those machines migrated to another server 1204126376 M * JonB ok 1204126603 Q * vasko Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1204126610 M * ISSAMNEO1 i try to install syslog-ng on a guest 1204126648 M * harry and i live in .be ;) 1204126683 M * ISSAMNEO1 but when i want to start the server it says error can't open /proc/kmsg operation not permitted 1204126799 M * hparker comment the kmsg line out of syslog-ng.conf 1204127631 M * ISSAMNEO1 thanks alot 1204127635 M * ISSAMNEO1 it work now 1204127655 J * xdr ~xdr@157-173-96-87.cust.blixtvik.se 1204127834 Q * hparker Remote host closed the connection 1204128364 Q * nebuchadnezzar Remote host closed the connection 1204128477 J * rgl ~rgl@lx2-84-90-10-215.netvisao.pt 1204128487 M * rgl hi :D 1204128531 J * fatgoose ~samuel@76-10-149-199.dsl.teksavvy.com 1204128577 J * nebuchadnezzar ~nebu@zion.asgardr.info 1204128578 Q * fatgoose Read error: Connection reset by peer 1204128579 M * ISSAMNEO1 :) 1204128588 Q * chigital Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1204128591 J * fatgoose ~samuel@76-10-149-199.dsl.teksavvy.com 1204128605 M * ISSAMNEO1 i have a vserver on server A with domain a.com 1204128621 M * ISSAMNEO1 i will move now to domain B 1204128637 M * ISSAMNEO1 so i have to change the ipadress of my guest 1204128685 M * JonB domainns are not ip addresses 1204128707 M * JonB just update the name 1204128888 M * Wonka you can even have domains a.com and b.com point to the same ip at the same time 1204129722 J * Knorrie knorrie@yoshi.kantoor.mendix.nl 1204129915 J * larsivi ~larsivi@144.84-48-50.nextgentel.com 1204129944 J * dowdle ~dowdle@scott.coe.montana.edu 1204130105 M * ISSAMNEO1 now i've to change the ip adress 1204130117 M * ISSAMNEO1 to be pinged by other host 1204130202 Q * JonB Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1204130275 J * ntrs ~ntrs@vs079.rosehosting.com 1204130655 Q * ntrs_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1204130723 M * ISSAMNEO1 before my guest has an adress 192.168.0.1 AND THE HOST 192.168.0.2 1204130744 M * ISSAMNEO1 NOW I CHANGE THE SERVER DOMAIN IT BECAME 10.10.10.1 1204130761 M * ISSAMNEO1 I WANT THE GUEST TO CHANGE TO 10.10.10.2 1204130787 M * ISSAMNEO1 I READ THE FAQ SECTION ABVOUT THIS BUT IT's not clear 1204130985 Q * mick_work Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1204130994 J * lilalinux ~plasma@80.69.41.3 1204131042 M * daniel_hozac change /etc/vservers/*/interfaces/*/ip 1204131049 M * mnemoc ISSAMNEO1: please stop writting in capital letters 1204131214 M * ISSAMNEO1 ok mnemoc 1204131224 M * ISSAMNEO1 what's nid 1204131233 M * ISSAMNEO1 ? 1204131465 M * ISSAMNEO1 when i read the FAQ on how to change the ip address i found the technical word nid whixh i don't understand it any help 1204131746 M * ISSAMNEO1 thanks alot daniel hozac it works, just by editing that file 1204131748 M * ISSAMNEO1 thanks 1204132220 Q * gebura Remote host closed the connection 1204132736 N * DoberMann DoberMann[PullA] 1204132760 J * brc bruce@megarapido.cliquerapido.com.br 1204133676 J * yarihm ~yarihm@vpn-global-dhcp3-118.ethz.ch 1204133839 J * onox ~onox@kalfjeslab.demon.nl 1204134927 Q * ISSAMNEO1 Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1204135117 Q * pmenier Quit: Konversation terminated! 1204135118 J * JonB ~NoSuchUse@0405ds1-noe.0.fullrate.dk 1204135835 J * vasko ~vasko@unreal.rainside.sk 1204135867 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl 1204135873 M * vasko hi all 1204135878 M * Bertl hey vasko! 1204136327 N * DoberMann[PullA] DoberMann 1204136504 M * Bertl vasko: btw, your nick always reminds me of the great explorer, but that one is written with 'c' instead of 'k' .. does vasko mean something? 1204136641 M * mnemoc "Basken" I think 1204136644 M * vasko i do not think it means someting :) 1204136956 M * mnemoc to my spanish ears it means "someone from the basque country" 1204137674 Q * mire__ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1204137918 M * vasko well, you made me to google for it -- it seems it is common name in slavic countries, either first or seond name, differs from country to country 1204137943 M * vasko hmmm 1204137955 M * vasko there is even a book about this name: http://www.target.com/Vasko-Name-History-Ancestry-com/dp/B000W1BD1C 1204138188 J * mire__ ~mire@229-168-222-85.adsl.verat.net 1204138532 P * jsambrook Leaving. 1204138606 Q * ema Quit: leaving 1204138856 J * Radiance ~Radiance@193.16.154.187 1204140620 J * ftx ~ftx@dslb-084-060-216-152.pools.arcor-ip.net 1204141606 Q * yarihm Quit: This computer has gone to sleep 1204142257 Q * lilalinux Remote host closed the connection 1204142526 J * chrisl ~chrisl@dslb-084-059-117-203.pools.arcor-ip.net 1204142531 M * chrisl good evening :) 1204142565 M * chrisl On every vps I get the message: No space left on device - what's the problem? 1204142572 J * cgirl29 ~cgirl29@ANantes-257-1-17-244.w90-25.abo.wanadoo.fr 1204142592 M * daniel_hozac when you do what? 1204142628 M * chrisl when the server tries to save something 1204142652 M * chrisl or if I want to unpack sth 1204142678 M * chrisl chmod / chown rights? :/ 1204142681 Q * cgirl29 1204142684 M * daniel_hozac so... the disk is most likely full. 1204142690 M * chrisl it isn't 1204142699 M * chrisl there are more than 65gb free! 1204142707 M * DLange chrisl: /tmp too small 1204142708 M * daniel_hozac on /tmp? 1204142740 A * DLange smiles as 100ms before daniel_hozac. Makes my day. 1204142752 M * chrisl No space left on device at /usr/share/perl5/ 1204142763 M * chrisl on /tmp, too 1204142799 M * daniel_hozac so touch /usr... fails? 1204142855 M * Bertl chrisl: could you upload 'cat /proc/mounts' somewhere? 1204142858 M * chrisl vserver2:/usr/share/otrs/bin# touch /usr 1204142858 M * chrisl vserver2:/usr/share/otrs/bin# 1204142877 M * daniel_hozac you need to touch a file, of course... 1204142885 M * chrisl :p 1204142888 M * chrisl I'm sorry 1204142938 M * chrisl Bertl: http://rafb.net/p/Ua9w3a57.html 1204142998 M * Bertl okay, now do 'df /tmp /usr' and upload that too 1204143031 A * DLange bets on too small tmpfs at /tmp 1204143039 M * chrisl http://rafb.net/p/5Df0ic37.html 1204143062 M * chrisl 100% used /tmp 1204143062 M * chrisl :P 1204143069 A * DLange wins 1204143084 M * Bertl yep, and the /usr message is probably just from a perl script trying to create a temporary file 1204143099 M * Bertl (which gave you the misleading path info) 1204143114 M * chrisl okay, but what happened? 1204143162 M * chrisl and how can I raise the /tmp volume up? 1204143162 M * daniel_hozac you filled up /tmp? 1204143185 M * Bertl chrisl: for performance reasons, /tmp is a tmpfs, limited to 16M (default= 1204143216 M * Bertl chrisl: properly written programs use /tmp only for small files, and /var/tmp for larger ones 1204143237 M * Bertl chrisl: the good news is, you can easily change the size of the tmpfs :) 1204143242 M * chrisl great :) 1204143476 M * chrisl and how? 1204143485 M * chrisl I can't remount /tmp 1204143514 M * snooze change the fstab for the vserver 1204143515 M * snooze i guess 1204143585 M * mnemoc you can remount it, from the host 1204143597 M * daniel_hozac there are commands in the FAQ 1204143893 M * chrisl okaaaay 1204143893 M * chrisl mountie: can't find /vservers/vserver2/tmp in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab 1204143971 J * yarihm ~yarihm@vpn-global-dhcp1-213.ethz.ch 1204144007 M * Bertl chrisl: check in /etc/vservers//fstab :) 1204144061 M * chrisl ah 1204144066 M * chrisl wonderful 1204144073 J * jescheng ~jescheng@proxy-sjc-2.cisco.com 1204144115 M * jescheng hi 1204144126 M * jescheng I have a question regarding SECURE_MOUNT capability 1204144153 M * jescheng if a vserver has this flag, does that mean it can mount any devices it wants? 1204144170 M * jescheng including the entire hd 1204144188 M * daniel_hozac if it's got access to the device nodes, sure. 1204144298 M * jescheng i know this probably is not possible, but is there a way to limit what they can or cannot mount 1204144317 M * jescheng since they can also bring their own device nodes from somewhere 1204144327 M * daniel_hozac how would they? 1204144340 M * daniel_hozac obviously you wouldn't give it access to all of your hardware. 1204144353 M * daniel_hozac and besides, all mounts done from within a context are tagged nodev. 1204144445 M * jescheng can you not copy a device node...or ftp it into the vserver 1204144459 M * daniel_hozac not without CAP_MKNOD. 1204144465 M * daniel_hozac in which case you're already screwed. 1204144580 M * jescheng hmm.. ok let me try it out. i thought device nodes can be copied into the vserer 1204144588 M * daniel_hozac only from the host. 1204145018 J * Infinito ~argos@201-11-171-2.gnace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br 1204145039 M * chrisl okay Bertl, thanks for your help, I wish a nice day :) 1204145061 M * chrisl Ach - nu seh ichs erst, Du bist Österreicher :) 1204145089 M * Bertl you're welcome! 1204145097 Q * yarihm Quit: This computer has gone to sleep 1204145179 Q * chrisl Quit: ( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 3.81 :: www.XLhost.de ) 1204145689 M * jescheng daniel_hozac: thanks. it is working as your said. 1204146319 J * Julius ~julius@p57B24C6F.dip.t-dialin.net 1204146589 J * Aiken ~james@ppp118-208-56-200.lns4.bne1.internode.on.net 1204146643 J * yarihm ~yarihm@84-75-103-252.dclient.hispeed.ch 1204146821 Q * Infinito Quit: Leaving 1204147244 J * cgirl29 ~cgirl29@ANantes-257-1-17-244.w90-25.abo.wanadoo.fr 1204147350 Q * cgirl29 1204147793 J * ktwilight ~ktwilight@232.92-66-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be 1204148073 Q * ktwilight_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1204148332 Q * larsivi Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1204148342 M * jescheng exit 1204148346 Q * jescheng Quit: Leaving 1204148678 M * TrueBrain Is the 16 IP per VPS limitation still current? 1204148854 J * jescheng ~jescheng@proxy-sjc-2.cisco.com 1204148930 M * jescheng to give vserver the ability to write to /proc , is SYS_ADMIN required? or is there a lesser flag 1204148963 M * jescheng it seems like vprocunhide unhides the proc but not necessarily gives the ability to write 1204148992 M * daniel_hozac jescheng: it depends on where you want to write... 1204148992 M * Bertl well, what do you want your guest to be able to write to proc? 1204149002 M * daniel_hozac TrueBrain: it's completely abolished in 2.3. 1204149011 M * TrueBrain daniel_hozac: but not in 2.2? :( 1204149015 M * daniel_hozac nope. 1204149026 M * TrueBrain a :( because when I last upgraded my kernels, 2.3 wasn't in ebuild... 1204149036 M * TrueBrain still isn't... 1204149042 M * TrueBrain (hard masked because of exploit) 1204149047 M * jescheng still not sure exactly what we want to allow, but i'm trying /proc/sys/vm/overcommit_memory 1204149067 M * daniel_hozac and why don't you modify that on the host? 1204149112 M * Bertl jescheng: that is a host wide setting, you don't want a guest to play with that 1204149172 M * jescheng yes i understand the security implications, and we are ok with that (for certain guests) 1204149209 M * Bertl you realize, that they might do interfering changes? 1204149210 M * jescheng but for guest to write to what they want (which we don't yet know), is there another way? 1204149238 M * Bertl no, most of those settings require SYS_ADMIN from the vanilla kernel checks 1204149241 M * jescheng sure..we may allow only one trusted guest to do so 1204149338 Q * DLange Quit: Bye, bye. Hasta luego. 1204149355 M * jescheng I see. ok, thanks guys 1204149371 M * Bertl np 1204149835 Q * dna Quit: Verlassend 1204149861 Q * JonB Quit: This computer has gone to sleep 1204150783 J * virtuoso_ ~s0t0na@ppp91-122-94-114.pppoe.avangarddsl.ru 1204150986 Q * Mooo Quit: Leaving 1204151187 Q * virtuoso Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1204151891 J * ntrs_ ~ntrs@vs079.rosehosting.com 1204152180 Q * ftx Remote host closed the connection 1204152295 Q * ntrs Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1204152501 J * larsivi ~larsivi@144.84-48-50.nextgentel.com 1204152626 J * friendly12345 ~friendly@ppp59-167-75-63.lns1.mel6.internode.on.net 1204152659 Q * bonbons Quit: Leaving 1204152866 J * JonB ~NoSuchUse@77.75.164.169 1204153386 J * rgl_ ~rgl@lx2-84-90-10-215.netvisao.pt 1204153438 Q * rgl Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1204154428 Q * JonB Quit: This computer has gone to sleep 1204154532 Q * Julius Quit: Verlassend 1204155254 Q * larsivi Remote host closed the connection 1204155407 N * DoberMann DoberMann[ZZZzzz] 1204155625 Q * mire__ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1204156189 J * mire__ ~mire@89-170-222-85.adsl.verat.net 1204156203 M * Bertl okay, off to bed ... have a good one everyone! 1204156212 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ