1203034298 P * click [IRSSI] 1203035281 M * Bertl derjohn: yep 1203035603 Q * Punkie Quit: Punkie 1203037629 Q * mcp Read error: Connection reset by peer 1203037805 N * DoberMann[PullA] DoberMann[ZZZzzz] 1203037833 Q * ntrs_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1203038576 Q * CyberMonk Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1203039731 J * CyberMonk hacker@2001:5c0:84dc:1:2::39 1203039743 Q * arachnist Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1203039803 J * click click@ti511110a080-1442.bb.online.no 1203039816 J * infowolfe_ ~infowolfe@home.dsl.hardcore-linux.net 1203040210 Q * infowolfe Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1203040232 J * _CyberMonk hacker@2001:5c0:84dc:1:2::39 1203040336 Q * CyberMonk Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1203040346 N * _CyberMonk CyberMonk 1203040404 Q * onox Quit: zZzZ 1203041210 Q * fatgoose Quit: fatgoose 1203043279 J * friendly12345 ~friendly@ppp121-44-198-55.lns3.mel4.internode.on.net 1203043611 Q * enkahel__ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1203044169 J * Infinito ~argos@200-140-64-173.gnace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br 1203044282 Q * CyberMonk Quit: changing servers 1203044297 J * CyberMonk hacker@2001:5c0:84dc:1:2::39 1203045490 J * dowdle_ ~dowdle@67-42-172-50.blng.qwest.net 1203045616 Q * dowdle_ Remote host closed the connection 1203045640 J * ntrs ~ntrs@vs079.rosehosting.com 1203046215 Q * Infinito Quit: Leaving 1203046385 J * enkahel_ ~enkahel@ACaen-257-1-72-64.w86-220.abo.wanadoo.fr 1203046458 Q * CyberMonk Quit: changing servers 1203046492 J * CyberMonk hacker@2001:5c0:84dc:1:2::39 1203048025 J * besonen_mobile__ ~besonen_m@71-220-235-129.eugn.qwest.net 1203048025 Q * besonen_mobile_ Read error: Connection reset by peer 1203048902 Q * CyberMonk Quit: changing servers 1203049019 J * CyberMonk hacker@2001:5c0:84dc:1:2::39 1203050102 M * Bertl okay, off to bed now .. have a good one everyone! 1203050106 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ 1203050259 J * doener_ ~doener@i577B8F2F.versanet.de 1203050676 Q * doener Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1203051333 J * balbir ~balbir@122.167.198.85 1203051953 Q * CyberMonk Quit: changing servers 1203052248 J * CyberMonk hacker@2001:5c0:84dc:1:2::39 1203053380 Q * nkukard Quit: Leaving 1203053481 Q * doener_ Quit: 640m for X, time to restart... 1203054045 J * doener ~doener@i577B8F2F.versanet.de 1203054046 Q * Aiken Read error: Connection reset by peer 1203054135 J * Aiken ~james@ppp59-167-117-30.lns3.bne4.internode.on.net 1203054466 Q * balbir Read error: Operation timed out 1203055122 Q * CyberMonk Quit: changing servers 1203055223 J * CyberMonk hacker@2001:5c0:84dc:1:2::39 1203055399 J * ktwilight_ ~ktwilight@87.66.206.249 1203055838 Q * ktwilight Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1203057646 J * Fire_Egl Proteus@adsl-147-90-184.bhm.bellsouth.net 1203057646 Q * FireEgl Read error: Connection reset by peer 1203057699 J * JonB ~NoSuchUse@77.75.164.169 1203057787 J * balbir ~balbir@59.145.136.1 1203058069 J * dreamind ~dreamind@C2107.campino.wh.tu-darmstadt.de 1203058093 J * _bjh_ ~bjh@84.112.154.154 1203058104 N * dreamind Guest124 1203058115 N * Guest124 dreamind 1203060267 Q * CyberMonk Quit: changing servers 1203060271 J * Julius ~julius@p57B27901.dip.t-dialin.net 1203060351 J * CyberMonk hacker@2001:5c0:84dc:1:2::39 1203061836 Q * dreamind Quit: dreamind 1203062155 Q * CyberMonk Quit: changing servers 1203062187 J * CyberMonk hacker@2001:5c0:84dc:1:2::39 1203062749 Q * JonB Quit: This computer has gone to sleep 1203064360 J * gebura ~gebura@77.192.186.197 1203064366 M * gebura hi 1203090947 T * * http://linux-vserver.org/ | latest stable 2.2.0.6, 2.0.3-rc3, devel 2.3.0.32, stable+grsec 2.2.0.6 | util-vserver-0.30.214 | libvserver-1.0.2 & vserver-utils-1.0.3 | He who asks a question is a fool for a minute; he who doesn't ask is a fool for a lifetime -- share the gained knowledge on the Wiki, 1203090947 T * ChanServ - 1203090959 T * * http://linux-vserver.org/ | latest stable 2.2.0.6, 2.0.3-rc3, devel 2.3.0.32, stable+grsec 2.2.0.6 | util-vserver-0.30.214 | libvserver-1.0.2 & vserver-utils-1.0.3 | He who asks a question is a fool for a minute; he who doesn't ask is a fool for a lifetime -- share the gained knowledge on the Wiki, 1203090959 T * ChanServ - 1203090963 M * harry so how exactly is that shown inside a guest? 1203090979 M * harry where is swap/memory info? 1203091036 M * Bertl if you enable virt_mem, you will see that in free /proc/meminfo 1203091083 M * harry how do you enable virt_mem ? 1203091180 M * Bertl http://linux-vserver.org/Capabilities_and_Flags 1203091187 M * harry i was there allready now :) 1203091205 M * harry sched_pause... does that "disable" a guest? 1203091225 M * Bertl it stops scheduling its processesa 1203091232 M * Bertl *processes 1203091232 J * kikoo_ ~kikoo_@lazarou.ckool.org 1203091263 M * Bertl welcome kikoo_! 1203091263 Q * yarihm Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1203091266 M * harry so they won't get cputime? 1203091269 M * kikoo_ Hi 1203091271 M * harry so they are "disabled"? 1203091285 M * harry i guess that's something you have to change "on the fly" ? 1203091294 M * Bertl yep 1203091318 M * kikoo_ I created successfully a vserver on etch in which I installed a etch, but I'm not able to start openssh-server 1203091343 M * kikoo_ has someone an idea ? 1203091367 M * JonB kikoo_: yes 1203091372 M * harry kinky 1203091379 M * JonB kikoo_: are you running SSHD on the vserver host? 1203091411 M * harry Bertl: is there a readup on sched_prio? 1203091415 M * kikoo_ JonB: yes, I installed succesfully $ apt-get install openssh-sever 1203091421 M * harry because i was wondering... i have a testserver: app1 1203091426 M * harry and a production app2 1203091426 M * JonB kikoo_: wait 1203091435 M * harry if app1 goes berzerk... what will happen with app2 ? 1203091440 M * harry i have app1 2 cpu's 1203091441 M * kikoo_ JonB: I have "Starting OpenBSD Secure Shell server: sshd" 1203091443 M * harry app2 has 4 cpus 1203091444 M * JonB kikoo_: in the vserver host/rootserver or in a vserver guest? 1203091451 M * JonB kikoo_: maybe both? 1203091459 M * kikoo_ JonB: vserver 1203091466 M * harry (sched/interval... files) 1203091480 M * JonB kikoo_: in here the terminology is host and guest 1203091514 M * harry Apply process limits to context ==> that "enables" nproc in the rlimits dir? 1203091523 M * JonB kikoo_: you have 1 host pr. hardware 1203091528 M * JonB kikoo_: but you can have many guests 1203091537 M * kikoo_ JonB: ok , vserver guest 1203091543 M * JonB kikoo_: normally SSHD binds to 0.0.0.0:22 1203091548 J * balbir ~balbir@122.167.218.163 1203091564 M * JonB kikoo_: so if you run SSHD at the host, then that steals the connection 1203091579 M * kikoo_ JonB: I know when I do a netstat I have nothing listning on port 22, very strange 1203091599 M * harry Bertl: is there somewhere where i can get MORE info on these flags??? some seem very interesting... 1203091599 M * JonB kikoo_: do you netstat in the guest or in the host? 1203091609 M * kikoo_ JonB: on the host 1203091619 M * harry enable init state... i don't know what that means 1203091622 M * JonB kikoo_: how do you log into it then? 1203091637 M * kikoo_ JonB: vstart etch2 enter 1203091647 M * kikoo_ where etch2 is the name of my guest 1203091657 M * JonB kikoo_: you still seem to be confused 1203091657 M * harry virtualize uptime... same here... do you have to enable that in kernel than? all the info_* flags... 1203091658 M * Bertl harry: is that page not enough 1203091661 M * harry i'm lost... 1203091667 M * harry Bertl: no 1203091692 M * harry 6 0x00000040 INFO_ULIMIT Loki|muh Apply ulimits to context 1203091706 M * harry what does that mean? the nprocs rlimit is not "active" ? 1203091712 M * JonB kikoo_: when you type vserver etch2 enter you enter the guest 1203091720 M * JonB kikoo_: but you type it in the host 1203091739 M * Bertl harry: legacy flag, not applicable to 2.0+ 1203091743 M * kikoo_ JonB: no, I tape it in the guest 1203091744 M * harry use private namespace... what does that mean? that i can't see the guest from the host? 1203091756 M * harry ah... that's the tag? 1203091766 M * JonB kikoo_: you can not enter a guest when you are already inside a guest 1203091773 M * Bertl harry: yep, see description on the same page :) 1203091773 M * harry what's the X tag ? 1203091776 Q * ISSAMNEO1 Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1203091780 M * harry lol 1203091781 M * harry nevermind 1203091784 M * harry i'm being stupid 1203091794 M * harry i'm gonna read from top to bottom and i'll get back :) 1203091806 M * Bertl excellent idea! 1203091823 J * hparker ~hparker@linux.homershut.net 1203091824 N * zbyniu_ zbyniu 1203091836 M * JonB kikoo_: are you sitting infront of the vserver hardware? 1203091856 M * kikoo_ no, I'm connected thougsh ssh 1203091874 Q * erwin2 Remote host closed the connection 1203091878 M * JonB kikoo_: riiiight 1203091892 M * JonB kikoo_: what is the name of the computer you log into? etch1? 1203091910 M * kikoo_ JonB: einstein 1203091930 M * kikoo_ JonB: etch1 and etch2 are 2 guest I have created 1203091933 M * JonB kikoo_: good 1203091942 M * JonB kikoo_: einstein is the host 1203091948 M * kikoo_ JonB: yes 1203091949 M * JonB kikoo_: does einstein run sshd? 1203091954 M * kikoo_ JonB: yes 1203091988 M * JonB kikoo_: try running netstat -a -p -n | grep 22 in einstein 1203091996 M * kikoo_ JonB: on the host (einstein), sshd is running and ok 1203092019 M * JonB kikoo_: what ip adress is it binding to? 1203092029 M * JonB kikoo_: by default it binds to 0.0.0.0 1203092039 M * kikoo_ JonB: einstein:# vserver etch2 enter -> I enter in $etch2 1203092064 M * JonB kikoo_: no no, dont enter a guest 1203092088 Q * FloodServ cation.oftc.net resistance.oftc.net 1203092095 M * harry Bertl: FORK_RSS <== is that generally a good idea to have? 1203092108 M * kikoo_ JonB: ok, 1203092111 M * kikoo_ JonB: tcp6 0 0 :::22 :::* LISTEN 2303/sshd 1203092125 M * JonB kikoo_: riiight 1203092130 M * JonB kikoo_: there is your culprit 1203092145 M * kikoo_ JonB: ? 1203092146 M * JonB kikoo_: tell it to only bind to your hosts, aka einsteins ip address 1203092151 M * harry bertl: what's the state_setup/init/admin? what do they do? 1203092162 M * harry what does enable setup state do? 1203092175 J * FloodServ services@services.oftc.net 1203092191 M * Bertl harry: FORK_RSS can help avoid OOM killing to some degree 1203092222 M * kikoo_ JonB: My host ip is 172.16.1.122 and the guest (etch2) 172.16.1.125 1203092222 M * Bertl harry: the state flags are used for guest setup, setting the init process or allowing guest administration 1203092243 M * harry so practically, if i enable state_setup... what can i do more? 1203092248 M * harry can i vserver x build ? 1203092257 M * Bertl harry: every guest starts in the setup state, and drops setup once it was configured 1203092259 M * harry if yes: where? do i have "host" rights? 1203092269 M * harry ah 1203092281 M * Bertl and those flags are onetime flags (as the tag says) 1203092294 M * JonB kikoo_: tell sshd on the host, aka einstein to only bind to 172.16.1.122 1203092302 M * harry ah, so they are enabled/disabled automatically, and i shouldn't worry about them :) 1203092304 M * Bertl harry: so once you remote them, no way to get them back 1203092377 M * harry Enable Virtualized Guest Time kernel option has nothing to do with virt_uptime 1203092385 J * ISSAMNEO1 ~ISSAMNEO1@213.150.170.98 1203092386 M * harry or virt_time 1203092437 J * DLange ~dlange@p57A3129E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de 1203092440 M * kikoo_ JonB: it WORKS !! THANK YOU ! 1203092440 M * harry Bertl: one last one... 1203092441 M * Bertl it hast (with virt_time) 1203092452 M * JonB kikoo_: :-) 1203092472 M * kikoo_ JonB: Thank you very much !! 1203092477 M * harry Bertl: if i have sched_prio 1203092494 M * harry and 1 machine has fillrate 1 every 2 ticks 1203092500 M * harry the other one has 2 every 2 ticks 1203092509 M * harry calling first one : app1 1203092512 M * harry second app2 1203092518 M * harry machine 1 goes berzerk 1203092524 M * harry does it affect performance on app2? 1203092529 M * Bertl yep 1203092544 M * harry will app2 still get "at least 2 out of 2 ticks" 1203092545 M * harry ? 1203092567 M * Bertl it will get something (according to the normal scheduler) as only the priorities are adjusted 1203092569 M * harry so the best way is to sched_hard the test servers (app1) ? 1203092589 M * Bertl yep, that will stop scheduling when the bucket is empty 1203092589 J * emag_ ~Itoc5OI6@gurski.org 1203092607 M * harry mkay, tnx! 1203092616 M * Bertl np 1203092659 Q * emag Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1203092713 J * yarihm ~yarihm@whitehead2.nine.ch 1203092868 Q * CyberMonk Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1203093117 M * harry Bertl: do you need to restart your guest in order for virt_mem to work, and virt_cpu etc??? 1203093210 M * Bertl nope 1203093220 M * harry then there's something wrong :S 1203093279 M * harry legolas:/usr/local/etc/vservers/arwen# cat rlimits/rss.* 1203093279 M * harry 524288 1203093279 M * harry 262144 1203093279 M * harry legolas:/usr/local/etc/vservers/arwen# vserver arwen exec free total used free shared buffers cached 1203093282 M * harry Mem: 16428240 16241736 186504 0 641452 12560776 1203093285 M * harry -/+ buffers/cache: 3039508 13388732 1203093288 M * harry Swap: 8779112 2996 8776116 1203093314 Q * emag_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1203093341 M * Bertl did you set the rss limits for the guest? did you enable virt_mem? check in /proc/virtual//* 1203093371 M * harry 17:34 < harry> legolas:/usr/local/etc/vservers/arwen# cat rlimits/rss.* 1203093383 M * harry that gives the rss.hard and rss.soft info 1203093412 M * Bertl that's nice, but has nothing to do with the guest values, no? 1203093430 M * harry i'll give the output from virtual/xid/... 1203093435 M * Bertl can't expect the tools to update the guest from the startup config files on the fly :) 1203093469 M * Bertl although, a 'reconfig' or similar option to util-vserver would be nice 1203093476 J * emag ~Itoc5OI6@gurski.org 1203093489 M * harry legolas:~# cat /proc/virtual/506/limit |grep RSS 1203093489 M * harry RSS: 160313 0/ 169399 131072/ 262144 0 1203093502 M * Bertl okay, looks good 1203093529 M * harry legolas:~# cat /usr/local/etc/vservers/arwen/flags |grep mem 1203093529 M * harry virt_mem 1203093545 M * Bertl again, check in proc 1203093574 M * harry Flags: 0000001602020210 1203093576 M * harry tough one :) 1203093592 M * Bertl 0x00010000 VIRT_MEM 1203093596 M * harry yeah... 1203093602 M * harry so... no, it's not 1203093611 M * Bertl just set it .. 1203093625 M * harry how? 1203093646 M * harry i thought i had to just echo virt_mem >> flags 1203093657 M * Bertl vattribute --help 1203093678 M * Bertl that only works for a restart, you wanted to change it on the fly, no? 1203093715 Q * Guest139 Quit: Guest139 1203093795 M * harry how do you remove that stuff? 1203093804 M * harry vattribute --set --xid 506 --ccap !0x00010000 1203093812 M * harry that was wrong. should have been --flag :0 1203093813 M * harry ;) 1203093830 M * Bertl yep, and you wanted to set it, IIRC 1203093840 M * Bertl btw, ~ is easier on the shell than ! :) 1203093891 M * harry o ow... it's 17u45 1203093893 M * harry gotta run 1203093897 M * harry thanx a million, Bertl 1203093901 M * Bertl you're welcome! 1203093905 M * harry another nice feature learned here ;) 1203093915 M * harry (a few actually) 1203093930 M * harry only thing now is loopback... i want transparent loopback that works allways 1203093951 Q * gebura Quit: Quitte 1203093953 M * Bertl get 2.3.x and configure lback 1203093958 M * harry yeah 1203093968 M * harry when will it be production stable? 1203093984 M * Bertl tough question ... no idea atm 1203093985 M * harry as in: 1000's of guests over different machines with tagxid support over nfs 1203094003 M * harry anyway... gotta run... i'm late allready :S 1203094009 M * Bertl cya 1203094011 M * harry bye1 1203094201 Q * JonB Quit: This computer has gone to sleep 1203094334 M * kikoo_ What is the best way to backup guests ? backup up /var/lib/vservers/* is enough ? 1203094343 Q * alex_ Remote host closed the connection 1203094346 M * Bertl that and maybe the config 1203094380 M * Bertl good tools are rsync, rbackup, dump, .. but you can use anything else as well, as long as it preserves the numeric ids 1203094424 M * kikoo_ Bertl: Do I need to do a $ vserver stop , before ? 1203094501 M * Bertl well, depends on the guest, basically no, but some guest systems record stuff when running and will consider the 'hot' copy an uncleanly started system 1203094572 M * kikoo_ ok 1203094612 M * kikoo_ thanks 1203094623 M * Bertl you're welcome! 1203094772 M * kikoo_ when I try to duplicate a installed a guest, I have a /etc/vsererver/etch1.conf does not exist 1203094800 M * Bertl because you missed the config data 1203094830 M * kikoo_ I just try to do a $vserver-copy etch1 etch3 (where etch1 is already installed) 1203094834 M * Bertl check 'vserver - build --help' with focus on the rsync and clone build methods 1203094850 M * Bertl vserver-copy is _not_ what you want 1203094871 M * matti Bertl: :))))))))) 1203094885 M * Bertl hey matti! what happened to your chin? 1203094925 M * kikoo_ Bertl: although in the man it is written: copy/move a virtual server. 1203094944 M * Bertl check where it comes from (package) 1203095003 M * kikoo_ Bertl: util-serer 1203095006 M * kikoo_ Bertl: util-server 1203095080 M * Bertl yep, but from the legacy package 1203095094 M * Bertl i.e. it is used on pre vs2.0 kernels 1203095100 J * JonB ~NoSuchUse@77.75.164.169 1203095326 M * kikoo_ Bertl: you mean thant in kernel 2.6.18 we should not use vserver-copy ? 1203095503 M * Bertl yep, definitely not, won't work with recent configs 1203095521 M * Bertl (i.e. only works with single file based configs, that is why you get the error) 1203095843 J * GSValore ~gsvalore@adsl-68-95-142-158.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net 1203095852 M * Bertl welcome GSValore! 1203095903 M * GSValore Could someone aid in a booting problem I have with the kernel? 1203095932 M * Bertl probably, please upload the console boot log somewhere (e.g. paste.linux-vserver.org) 1203095955 M * GSValore don't think I can generate a boot log 1203095971 M * Bertl well, you get something when you boot up, no? 1203095982 M * GSValore for a few moments then it auto reboots itself 1203095997 M * GSValore and this is for the main system kernel, not a guest os 1203095998 M * Bertl copy that somewhere, e.g. as picture or capute it with a remote console (preferable serial) 1203096039 M * GSValore I don't have any serial devices and capturing a picture would be difficult unless I used my cell phone or something. 1203096062 M * Bertl well, how should I know what goes wrong then? :) 1203096084 M * GSValore Well, when it boots it throws errors about not being able to boot my processor via APIC 1203096099 M * GSValore then it scrolls fast after a few attempts at that and reboots immediately 1203096136 M * Bertl probably a wrong kernel config or so (wrong cpu maybe) 1203096153 M * GSValore well it's compiled similar to my other kernels, so don't think that's the case 1203096194 M * Bertl similar? try with the identical kernel, the .config you used, but leave out the Linux-VServer patch 1203096200 M * GSValore when it tries to boot the process via apic it says it's not responding (it finds an apic timer then attempts it) 1203096209 M * Bertl if that boots, add back the Linux-VServer patch 1203096260 M * GSValore hmm just copy over the config to the stock kernel then ? 1203096264 M * Bertl till now, we had not a single Linux-VServer kernel which didn't boot, when the unpatched version booted ... but maybe you are the first one :) 1203096300 M * Bertl GSValore: did you patch the kernel yourself? 1203096307 M * GSValore no, using the gentoo patches 1203096314 M * GSValore or rather the ebuild for vserver-sources 1203096330 M * Bertl so maybe your kernel config changed there 1203096357 M * Bertl is that on x86 or x86_64? 1203096361 M * GSValore x86_64 1203096387 Q * ISSAMNEO1 1203096396 M * GSValore ok copied over the config to the stock kernel, building it now 1203096431 M * GSValore one thing I did notice, that it wasn't until I used vserver-sources that it tried booting the processor through apic 1203096447 M * GSValore I did try adding the options noapic nolapic and it ignored them for that part 1203096452 M * Bertl maybe a kernel boot option then? 1203096465 M * GSValore that is it kept trying anyways 1203096467 M * Bertl you can specify acpi=noapic and similar on bootup 1203096493 M * Bertl but APIC is default for x86_64 and usually works quite well 1203096496 M * GSValore hmm didn't do the = part, been too long since I had to use kernel options 1203096625 M * GSValore ok, built the stock kernel so let me reboot and try that out, brb 1203096635 M * Bertl okay 1203096639 Q * GSValore Quit: leaving 1203096858 J * GSValore ~gsvalore@adsl-68-95-142-158.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net 1203096881 M * GSValore Ok, the stock kernel has the same issue. Adding acpi=noapic has no effect either. 1203096893 M * Bertl as I expected 1203096912 M * GSValore My normal kernel is 2.6.24 which does seem to use APIC to boot the processor, however it has no problems doing so. (2.6.23 didn't either) 1203096923 M * Bertl anyway, if you can capture the bootup somehow, I might be able to give some hints 1203096925 M * GSValore but both were/are gentoo-sources so I don't know if they added a patch or not 1203096946 M * GSValore Well I watched closely .. and after it tries to boot the processors, it says nothing more than rebooting 1203096977 M * Bertl compare your kernel config with the one you used to boot 1203096987 M * GSValore it finds an APIC timer, tries to boot processor 1/4 .. gets Not responding on each set and reboots 1203097018 M * Bertl could be a gentoo kernel issue as well, so trying with 2.6.22.18 (vanilla) might be worth a try 1203097086 M * GSValore well the stock test I tried was with just basic sources (the vanilla tarball) 1203097096 M * GSValore for 2.6.22 1203097108 M * Bertl and that one failed too? 1203097112 M * GSValore yea 1203097131 M * Bertl hmm, maybe you should revisit the machine's bios settings then 1203097136 M * GSValore I could try a stock of 2.6.24 and see if it boots, if it doesn't.. it'd mean a gentoo patch is allowing me to boot. 1203097199 M * GSValore not sure what'd need to be changed in the BIOS... it's a fairly new system 1203097203 M * maks 2.6.22 is allmost 9 month old, is our hardware recent? 1203097215 M * maks s/our/your/ # typo 1203097226 M * Bertl maks: well, APIC didn't change that much 1203097232 M * GSValore fairly recent, built it just last month 1203097245 M * GSValore Intel P35/ICH9 chipsets 1203097249 M * maks so boot it with pci=nommconfig or go to recent kernels 1203097253 M * maks 2.6.22 is stoneage 1203097265 M * Bertl 2.6.22.18 is recent :) 1203097302 M * GSValore well I can try a stock of 2.6.22.18 then 1203097306 M * GSValore see if that works 1203097309 M * maks git show v2.6.22 | grep ^Date 1203097309 M * maks Date: Sun Jul 8 16:32:26 2007 -0700 1203097326 J * fatgoose ~samuel@76-10-149-199.dsl.teksavvy.com 1203097345 M * maks GSValore: did you try the pci bootparam i was giving you above? 1203097368 M * GSValore I'd have to reboot to try that, it's on the same box 1203097399 M * GSValore let me download 2.6.22.18 first then I'll try that param 1203097443 M * GSValore Do the vserver patches work with 2.6.23/24 ? 1203097488 M * Bertl there are no stable patches for those kernels yet 1203097492 J * larsivi ~larsivi@144.84-48-50.nextgentel.com 1203097513 M * Bertl (and for 2.6.23 there won't be any, because it is too broken) 1203097517 M * GSValore I'll try using 2.6.22.18 also 1203097546 M * GSValore only takes a minute or two to compile the kernel after I copy the config over 1203097558 M * maks 2.6.25-rc1 is out 1203097578 M * Bertl maks: since a few days, how is it? 1203097605 M * maks not bad, just a laptop suspend gotcha need patch from acpi git 1203097637 M * maks after wirless mega merge in 2.6.24 lots of fixes in that sector 1203097680 M * maks (user visible, aka making wireless cards work) 1203097708 M * mnemoc what's "notable" in .25 ? 1203097726 M * GSValore hrm 2.6.22.18 only supports ICH8 for SATA, my system is ICH9 1203097740 M * GSValore didn't notice that before 1203097747 M * Bertl nah, 2.6.22 works fine on a P35 here 1203097750 Q * fatgoose Quit: fatgoose 1203097847 M * daniel_hozac same for my Q35 1203097876 M * maks ath5k, rtl8180, ext4, xfs update, smack, amd64 paravirt virtio hooks, uts_ns, pci_ns, scsi enclosures.. 1203097898 M * GSValore ok, rebooting and going to try that param too 1203097900 Q * GSValore Quit: leaving 1203097913 M * Bertl uts_ns is there since 2.6.20 or so 1203097918 M * maks ah some initial sony memory stick 1203097970 M * maks maybe didn't watch that to closely 1203097973 M * mnemoc sounds like nothing risky 1203097987 M * Bertl pci_ns sounds interesting 1203097992 M * maks well ongoing x86 merge 1203098005 M * daniel_hozac 2.6.19. 1203098007 M * maks Bertl that is an typ ipc_ns 1203098018 M * Bertl ah, that's 2.6.19/20 too 1203098027 M * maks s/typ/typo/ # urrgs too much coffee 1203098029 M * Bertl we are using both since a while now 1203098043 J * fatgoose ~samuel@76-10-149-199.dsl.teksavvy.com 1203098057 M * mnemoc pci_ns would be cool :p 1203098077 M * maks net_ns work 1203098101 M * maks -> http://lxc.sourceforge.net/network_status.php 1203098209 M * Bertl at least for ipv4, it seems 1203098229 M * maks risky stuff was yet another device model change 1203098238 M * maks kobject fun.. 1203098243 M * daniel_hozac far from working... 1203098249 M * mnemoc :( 1203098263 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: ah, you already gave it a spin? 1203098287 Q * Pazzo Quit: Ex-Chat 1203098387 M * daniel_hozac no, hard to give something a spin when it's only partially in existence. ;) 1203098387 M * daniel_hozac e.g. TCP is not virtualized yet. 1203098387 M * daniel_hozac which, IMHO, is rather critical. 1203098408 J * ema ~ema@rtfm.galliera.it 1203098422 M * Bertl ah, right, missed that one :) 1203098443 M * Bertl well, who needs tcp anyways :) 1203098454 M * Bertl too reliable for practical uses ... 1203098518 M * daniel_hozac yeah, we should all use UNIX sockets instead :) 1203098532 J * gsvalore ~gsvalore@adsl-68-95-142-158.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net 1203098539 N * gsvalore GSValore 1203098543 M * Bertl wb GSValore! 1203098554 M * GSValore 2.6.22.18 didn't work either (same errors) and the pci=nommconfig had no effect 1203098601 M * Bertl as I said, I would double check the bios setup 1203098613 M * GSValore if I could keep it from automatically rebooting, it'd help find maybe something else it's complaining about 1203098627 M * mnemoc do you have any idea why a .22.18 may not accept a cpio.gz file (valid according to `zcat | file`) as a good initramfs file? 1203098633 M * Bertl things like APCI enabled/version, don't limit CPU ids, enable HPET (64bit), enable PnP OS 1203098650 M * Bertl mnemoc: no idea ... 1203098683 M * mnemoc Bertl: it stoped working while playing on .config :( 1203098754 M * kikoo_ thank for your help ! 1203098759 M * kikoo_ very nice chan 1203098763 M * GSValore do I need AHCI enabled in the BIOS? (Normally that's disabled and I have my kernel configured to use the ICHx driver instead) 1203098773 M * Bertl kikoo_: you're welcome! feel free to hang around! 1203098777 M * daniel_hozac mnemoc: right type of cpio archive? 1203098787 M * daniel_hozac mnemoc: (i.e. did you use -c?) 1203098804 M * kikoo_ Bertl: yeah I discovered other tools for vserver 1203098805 M * Bertl GSValore: AHCI or native mode is suggested for performance 1203098811 M * kikoo_ it is really very nice vserver !!! 1203098820 Q * JonB Quit: This computer has gone to sleep 1203098852 M * mnemoc daniel_hozac: find * | cpio -o -H newc | gzip -c -9 > foo.img .... is that still correct? 1203098857 M * GSValore Bertl: Would it be causing an boot issue if the kernel drivers for the SATA cannot find a disk to boot from? [E.g. the ICH8 isn't working but AHCI may?] 1203098875 M * Bertl mnemoc: find . is better :) 1203098899 M * Bertl GSValore: yep, but it would be something like 'cannot mount rootfs' 1203098907 Q * kikoo_ Quit: leaving 1203098912 M * GSValore thought so... well let me poke around in the BIOS again, bbiab 1203098930 Q * GSValore Quit: leaving 1203098933 M * daniel_hozac mnemoc: should be... 1203098933 M * daniel_hozac GSValore: that should end up with a kernel panic saying it can't find your root filesystem. 1203098938 M * mnemoc Bertl: thanks for the hint :) 1203098968 Q * fatgoose Read error: No route to host 1203098979 J * fatgoose ~samuel@76-10-149-199.dsl.teksavvy.com 1203099271 J * GSValore ~gsvalore@adsl-68-95-142-158.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net 1203099290 M * GSValore Bertl: I checked those settings you mentioned, made some adjustments. It still didn't help. 1203099318 M * Bertl and you still have a kernel which boots, yes? 1203099326 M * GSValore the gentoo-2.6.24 yea 1203099339 M * Bertl and that is the only one which boots for you? 1203099345 M * GSValore the 2.6.23 did as well 1203099350 M * GSValore also a gentoo one 1203099380 M * Bertl well, could be a broken DSDT or EFI ... but I doubt it is really board related 1203099405 M * GSValore let me try a stock 2.6.24, see if it's a gentoo patch or not 1203099421 M * Bertl do you have any recording of the error messages yet? 1203099429 M * Bertl i.e. something you could google with? 1203099465 M * GSValore not possible, it scrolls too fast to catch anything after the APIC failures 1203099478 M * GSValore all it says is it fails the apic and falls back to SMP alternatives 1203099499 M * GSValore the 2.6.23 and 2.6.24 didn't say these things 1203099500 M * Bertl I wonder why it reboots automatically, try adding panic=60 or so 1203099768 M * GSValore ok brb 1203099769 Q * GSValore Quit: leaving 1203100036 M * yang hey Bertl you busy? 1203100353 Q * ema Quit: leaving 1203100539 J * GSValore ~gsvalore@adsl-68-95-142-158.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net 1203100566 M * GSValore Bertl: apparently it's not a panic that reboots it, because panic=60 had no effect neither did pause_on_oops=60 1203100913 M * TrueBrain why is the latest gentoo ebuild of 2.3 still without the exploit fix? :s Any ETA on when there will be an updated? Or would it be better for me to do some manual patching? 1203101077 M * daniel_hozac Hollow was working on it. 1203101117 Q * yarihm Quit: This computer has gone to sleep 1203101255 M * Bertl GSValore: interesting 1203101351 M * Hollow TrueBrain: i only updated the 2.2 ebuild until now 1203101376 M * TrueBrain Hollow: any chance of doing 2.3? 1203101417 M * Bertl GSValore: what board is that, if you don't mind? 1203101441 Q * fatgoose Quit: fatgoose 1203101484 M * GSValore Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3L 1203101502 J * SDwarfs ~abc@M5106P003.adsl.highway.telekom.at 1203101502 M * Bertl that has to be working with a 2.6.22 kernel 1203101513 M * GSValore the stock kernels don't boot 1203101520 M * GSValore until 2.6.23/2.6.24 1203101521 M * Bertl GSValore: I'm using a GA-P35-DQ6 here 1203101587 M * Bertl you said, your kernel build only takes a minute or so? 1203101594 M * GSValore about 2min 1203101626 M * Bertl did you successfully build any kernel yourself which boots on that system? 1203101642 M * GSValore I always hand build them (genkernel results in some strange effects from time to time) 1203101708 M * SDwarfs Bertl: Hello, I just tested this thing with valgrind and and vserver... its NOT vserver depending, but kerneldepending and only a problem with 64bit machines. On 32bit-machines its no problem at all. On 64bit-machines, 2.6.18-6-amd64 works as vserver/normal and:2.6.22-4-amd64 has problems with and without vserver modifications... 1203101736 M * Bertl SDwarfs: excellent! tx for the feedback! 1203101737 Q * Infinito_ Quit: Leaving 1203101790 M * Bertl GSValore: did you memorize the message by now? 1203101794 M * SDwarfs Bertl: And its always good to ask for "how did you verify it" :) 1203101811 M * GSValore Bertl: The error it throws? 1203101820 M * Bertl yep, for google 1203101856 M * yang Bertl: you have a bit of time to resolve v4l issue? 1203101863 M * GSValore that's the hard part... after the APIC there seems to be a lot more than I thought, at least a page's worth of text that is spit out and the kernel auto reboots all in under about a 3rd of a second 1203101883 M * Bertl yang: Linux-VServer related? 1203101887 M * yang Bertl: no 1203101888 Q * ftx Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1203101928 M * Bertl GSValore: try hitting the 'Break' key, sometimes that works (but I'd suggest to go for a serial log) 1203101936 M * Bertl yang: well, depends, let's hear ... 1203101954 M * yang Bertl: Can we talk about it in #v4l @ freenode ? 1203101957 M * GSValore I tried hitting the break key but it always stops at showing me the io_scheduler being loaded 1203101974 M * SDwarfs Bertl: Any idea where I should post the problem now? (#debian ??) 1203101974 M * GSValore I have no way to record a serial port log anyways 1203102033 M * SDwarfs Bertl: no... thats not really #debian... that are the etch-backports-kernels 1203102061 M * SDwarfs Bertl: Is there any channel related to etch-backports? (yes, i should google for it) 1203102112 M * Bertl yang: I'm not there (yet) 1203102136 M * Bertl GSValore: no second machine in sight? 1203102153 M * GSValore I have a second machine, but I don't have any serial cables 1203102162 M * GSValore and there's no store nearby that sells those kinds of things 1203102184 M * Bertl that's bad, but you can build one yourself 1203102224 M * GSValore I don't quite have spare wires hanging around to ad-hoc one either 1203102249 Q * SDwarfs 1203102293 M * Bertl GSValore: what about taking a view snapshots with your handy, and try to shoot at the right moment? 1203102331 M * GSValore snapshot with a camera or whatever? 1203102344 M * Bertl yep 1203102357 M * Bertl maybe you are lucky, if you don't have the proper equipment 1203102360 M * GSValore I could try but not sure I have any way to pull the images off the camera 1203102389 M * Bertl well, you can 'copy' the text manually (i.e. type it :) 1203102405 M * GSValore true, assuming I can actually read what i snapshot 1203102407 M * Bertl and next time, make sure to have a serial cable ... 1203102422 M * GSValore well usually I don't have a kernel act this way ! 1203102428 J * fatgoose ~samuel@76-10-149-199.dsl.teksavvy.com 1203102459 J * Linus ~nuhks@bl7-135-170.dsl.telepac.pt 1203102485 M * Bertl GSValore: every household has to have one (serial cable, well, it should at least :) 1203102675 M * yang Bertl: i dont want to paste in #vserver, can i query you instead? 1203102768 M * Bertl #v4l 1203102853 M * GSValore Bertl: I'll have to give it a try a bit later on, especially since it'd likely take many tries to just get slightly lucky 1203102906 M * Bertl okay, but as I said, GA-P345-DQ6 works without any issues (64bit) here with older kernels too, including 2.6.22.9 and 2.6.22.18 1203102926 M * GSValore it could just be I'm setting some sort of incompatible kernel option 1203102930 M * GSValore that is causing it to reboot 1203102966 M * Bertl I assume so 1203102973 M * Bertl or still a bios issue 1203102996 M * GSValore doesn't appear to be anything wrong in the BIOS 1203103008 J * ftx ~ftx@dslb-084-062-249-204.pools.arcor-ip.net 1203103210 M * GSValore If I find out something, I'll be back to report it; if I find a solution, I'll mention that as well. 1203103281 Q * GSValore Quit: leaving 1203103538 Q * ftx Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1203104056 J * ftx ~ftx@dslb-084-060-252-084.pools.arcor-ip.net 1203104269 J * ftx_ ~ftx@dslb-084-062-234-094.pools.arcor-ip.net 1203104591 Q * ftx Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1203105867 J * enkahel__ ~enkahel@ACaen-257-1-104-105.w86-220.abo.wanadoo.fr 1203106236 Q * enkahel_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1203106362 J * Aiken ~james@ppp59-167-117-30.lns3.bne4.internode.on.net 1203106475 Q * Julius Quit: Verlassend 1203106539 J * fatgoose_ ~samuel@76-10-149-199.dsl.teksavvy.com 1203106869 Q * fatgoose Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1203107687 J * fatgoose ~samuel@76-10-149-199.dsl.teksavvy.com 1203107824 J * JonB ~NoSuchUse@77.75.164.169 1203108099 Q * fatgoose_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1203108193 Q * ftx_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1203108454 Q * JonB Quit: This computer has gone to sleep 1203108636 J * Infinito ~argos@200-101-125-148.gnace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br 1203110349 Q * _gh_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1203110395 J * bonbons ~bonbons@2001:960:7ab:0:2c0:9fff:fe2d:39d 1203110519 J * JonB ~NoSuchUse@77.75.164.169 1203110738 J * mcp ~hightower@wolk-project.de 1203111073 Q * larsivi Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1203111351 Q * tam Quit: Lost terminal 1203111357 J * tam ~assmastr@gw.nettam.com 1203111506 M * Linus how can i build a guest vserver ?? 1203111516 M * Linus i'm new in vserver :) 1203111610 M * JonB Linus: there is a documentation part on the homepage 1203111642 M * daniel_hozac see vserver - build --help 1203111719 M * Linus i tried this 1203111721 M * Linus vserver Debian build -m debootstrap http://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/d/debootstrap/debootstrap_1.0.8_all.deb 1203111732 M * Linus but dont work :( 1203111799 M * daniel_hozac well, umm, that's not what the usage says, nor none of the examples 1203111819 M * daniel_hozac so i'm not sure why you'd expect it to. 1203111840 M * JonB Linus: http://linux-vserver.org/Installation_on_Debian#Guest_system_creation 1203111840 M * Linus yes i'm donkey ... i know :P 1203112076 Q * DLange Quit: Bye, bye. Hasta luego. 1203112214 M * JonB Linus: does it work if you follow that guide? 1203112255 M * Linus JonB no 1203112256 M * Linus http://pastebin.ca/905581 1203112294 M * Linus give me this error :( 1203112309 M * JonB Linus: dpkg -l debootstrap 1203112365 M * Linus JonB dpkg ??? :( 1203112399 M * JonB Linus: what linux flavor is your host? 1203112492 M * Linus i'm use slackware and i tried to build debian vserver 1203112528 M * JonB Linus: okay 1203112550 M * JonB Linus: i think you need to download the source for debootstrap and compile it 1203112554 M * Linus i see tha is complicated :P 1203112581 M * daniel_hozac no, you don't. 1203112581 M * daniel_hozac the utils do that for you. 1203112606 M * JonB okay 1203112617 M * daniel_hozac Linus: echo http://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/d/debootstrap/debootstrap_0.3.3.2etch1_all.deb > /etc/vservers/.defaults/apps/debootstrap/uri 1203112632 M * daniel_hozac debootstrap 1.0+ aren't supported by util-vserver <0.30.215. 1203112841 M * Linus /var/tmp/debootstrap.Gp5wSe/usr/sbin/debootstrap: line 252: cd: eth1:10.1.1.7: No such file or directory <--- whats this ?? lol 1203112877 M * daniel_hozac most likely you didn't specify a proper command line. 1203112946 M * Linus i do this 1203112947 M * Linus vserver debian build -m debootstrap --hostname test.com interface eth1:10.1.1.7/8 -- -d etch -- --resolve-deps --arch i386 1203112979 M * Linus this wrong daniel_hozac ?? 1203113015 M * daniel_hozac which is missing -- in front of interface. 1203113371 M * Linus it's complicated 1203113373 M * Linus E: No such script: /var/tmp/debootstrap.5ulN5l/usr/lib/debootstrap/scripts/slackware12.0.0 1203113426 M * daniel_hozac which means you didn't specify a distribution to install. 1203113531 M * daniel_hozac it's far from complicated, you just need to modify the name, hostname and IP address in one of the many examples online... 1203113968 M * Linus i will try... and try .... 1203113984 M * Linus some 1 msut work :P 1203113991 M * Linus must* 1203114942 M * Linus Failed to start vserver 'debian' <-- almost there :P 1203114990 M * Linus daniel_hozac /proc/uptime can not be accessed. Usually, this is caused by <-- whats this :/ 1203115038 M * daniel_hozac it says exactly what to do and what's wrong. 1203115044 M * daniel_hozac run vprocunhide. 1203115125 M * Linus how ?? 1203115264 Q * dna Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1203115406 M * daniel_hozac /etc/init.d/vprocunhide, if you configured the utils sanely. 1203116196 M * Linus i can't do it :( 1203116238 M * TrueBrain till now I always extracted guests by downloading them from the net somewhere... but 'vserver build' really became useful :) Concratz on that amazing job :) 1203116241 M * daniel_hozac you can't type /etc/init.d/vprocunhide start? 1203116277 J * undefine ~undefine@home.aramin.net 1203116320 M * TrueBrain daniel_hozac: you say debootstrap1.0+ doesn't work for util-vserver < 0.30.215, so that means that sage doesn't work for those util-vservers? 1203116358 M * daniel_hozac hmm? 1203116385 M * Linus daniel_hozac lol yes a can 1203116386 M * Linus http://pastebin.ca/905652 1203116436 M * TrueBrain daniel_hozac: I have util-vserver 0.30.214, so debootstrap1.0+ doesn't work; does that also imply I can't install debian sage? 1203116484 M * daniel_hozac Linus: that's not a complete guest. it doesn't have /var or /tmp... 1203116504 M * Linus humm 1203116535 M * daniel_hozac TrueBrain: sarge is old, 0.3.3 works fine for that. 1203116542 M * Linus vserver debian build --force -m debootstrap --hostname nuhx.net interface eth1:192.168.0.2 1203116548 M * TrueBrain lol, am I mixing up those names again :( 1203116556 M * TrueBrain I wish they used normal names :p 1203116603 M * TrueBrain tnx daniel_hozac, I was mistyping the name all this time :( Stupid me :) Whiieee, finally I have 32bit and 64bit debian etch vserver :) 1203116606 A * TrueBrain hugs vserver 1203116640 M * daniel_hozac stable/testing/unstable aren't normal enough? ;) 1203116640 M * daniel_hozac Linus: which is wrong in so many ways. seriously, just copy&paste an example. 1203116663 M * daniel_hozac congratulations! 1203116726 M * Linus daniel_hozac what example ?? it dont work :( 1203116746 M * daniel_hozac yes, it does. it works great here. 1203116791 M * Linus you show me 1 ?? 1203116878 Q * hparker Quit: Read error: 104 (Peer reset by connection) 1203116891 M * daniel_hozac http://linux-vserver.org/Installation_on_Debian 1203116969 Q * morfoh Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1203116976 Q * mnemoc Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1203117008 M * Linus i will try but will not work :( 1203117028 M * Bertl Linus: what's your problem? 1203117031 M * daniel_hozac then you're not copying it, since it works marvellous here. 1203117161 M * Linus know i tink it is working 1203117163 M * Linus I: Retrieving Release 1203117163 M * Linus I: Retrieving Packages 1203117165 M * Linus :) 1203117588 J * larsivi ~larsivi@144.84-48-50.nextgentel.com 1203117853 Q * Infinito Quit: Leaving 1203118136 J * mnemoc ~amery@kilo105.server4you.de 1203118190 J * morfoh ~morfoh@kilo105.server4you.de 1203118513 Q * Linus Quit: i'll be back 1203118549 J * Linus ~nuhks@bl7-135-170.dsl.telepac.pt 1203119575 Q * bonbons Quit: Leaving