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1202965921 M * padde the centos i got as guest is quite unusable :( i can't even set the password for root... big hassle. perhaps somebody (with more knowledge than me) should adjust the script for the centos5 install
1202965977 J * kevin ~kevin@c-71-56-128-222.hsd1.wa.comcast.net
1202966024 Q * kevin 
1202966050 J * hans12345 ~kevin@c-71-56-128-222.hsd1.wa.comcast.net
1202966088 M * hans12345 Can anyone tell me anything about character encoding with Linux Virtual Servers?
1202966141 M * padde hans12345: what seems to be the problem?
1202966155 M * hans12345 Say you want to validate a page: validator.w3.org
1202966161 M * hans12345 It's giving me the no character encoding message
1202966178 M * padde hans12345: that's definitely not a vserver problem ;)
1202966179 M * hans12345 however, on the main server, there are no problems..but when using virtual server, it says no character encoding is specified.
1202966206 M * padde hans12345: check your apache config, or set the encoding in the .html file
1202966246 M * hans12345 I wanted to avoid setting it in each html file, so I wanted to do it in the config...  it should be done in httpd.conf yes?
1202966273 M * padde hans12345: actually it should be done in the html file - that's the proper way to do it.
1202966282 M * hans12345 really?
1202966283 M * hans12345 good to know
1202966288 M * hans12345 I'll do it that way then.
1202966297 M * padde hans12345: the webserver should (per default) fall back to iso-8859-1
1202966319 M * hans12345 Thanks for the input
1202966346 M * padde hans12345: imagine somebody downloads your .html for later use - he can't open it properly if the charset is not specified, because then your server won't be there and telling his browser which charset to use
1202966364 M * hans12345 Guess I never looked at it that way.
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1202977394 J * WDTY ~root@82-171-214-117.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl
1202977527 J * dna ~dna@14-195-dsl.kielnet.net
1202977606 J * gebura ~gebura@77.192.186.197
1202977804 M * gebura hi
1202978478 J * Mufasa_nb ~mufasa@196.212.73.74
1202978615 M * harry damn... my vserver mailadress is used to send spam from :(
1202978758 M * Mufasa_nb any setup a centos vserver yet ?
1202978817 M * padde Mufasa_nb: yes, i'm at it (it's running well already)
1202978829 M * harry yesh
1202978846 M * harry the backup ftp server of vserver is centos :)
1202978849 M * harry host and guests
1202978857 M * harry well... 2 are ubuntu guests
1202978857 M * Mufasa_nb secure-mount: chdir("/tmp"): No such file or directory
1202978858 M * Mufasa_nb  error i'm gettiing
1202979011 M * harry Bertl_zZ: wake up man! :)
1202979135 M * JonB harry: you gotta use a caddleprod, he sleeps heavy
1202979154 M * JonB Mufasa_nb: did you start the vserver-util things?
1202979174 M * JonB are there a /tmp directory in the guest?
1202979177 M * harry hee
1202979179 M * harry hehe
1202979296 M * Mufasa_nb yes there is a /tmp dir
1202979389 J * jmcaricand jm@d90-144-110-144.cust.tele2.fr
1202979584 M * JonB Mufasa_nb: what permissions does it have?
1202979776 Q * bzed Quit: /forcefsck
1202979821 M * daniel_hozac Mufasa_nb: we'll need the complete output. that's just a symptom, not the issue.
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1202979914 J * bzed ~bzed@devel.recluse.de
1202980035 M * harry daniel_hozac: do you need in kernel quota support (not in the vserver dir) to use guest quota?>
1202980053 M * daniel_hozac yes, of course.
1202980071 M * daniel_hozac you can't use quotas without kernel support...
1202980077 M * Mufasa_nb http://paste.debian.net/49131  with --debug
1202980153 M * harry daniel_hozac: i know
1202980160 M * daniel_hozac do you have any repositories configured?
1202980174 M * harry but do you need "system" quota? or the option in the vserver subtree?
1202980187 M * daniel_hozac hmm?
1202980201 M * harry nevermind
1202980204 M * harry it's not even there... :)
1202980236 M * harry so if i want to limit each vserver's diskspace, i need to enable quota in kernel
1202980259 J * ntrs__ ~ntrs@vs079.rosehosting.com
1202980267 M * harry does quota work over nfs?
1202980283 M * daniel_hozac no, if you want to use quotas (i.e. user/group quotas), you need quotas and vroot.
1202980284 M * harry e.g. i want all my vserver guests on nfs
1202980303 M * Mufasa_nb just the default repo's in the ditro's/centos/yum... 
1202980343 M * harry vroot... where do i find that?
1202980354 M * harry http://linux-vserver.org/Disk_Limits_and_Quota doesn't give me much info..
1202980367 M * daniel_hozac http://linux-vserver.org/Standard_non-shared_quota
1202980388 M * daniel_hozac Mufasa_nb: then why isn't yum outputting anything at all? what yum version do you have installed?
1202980407 M * harry nono
1202980411 M * harry i don't want quota IN a vserver
1202980426 M * Mufasa_nb yum version 3.2.10
1202980426 M * harry i just want to limit the guests max amount of diskspace
1202980428 M * daniel_hozac then it's not quotas. limiting the size of a guest is disk limits.
1202980443 M * harry yes... so imho quota per guest ;)
1202980447 M * harry but anyways...
1202980453 M * daniel_hozac no, per-guest quota is user/group quotas.
1202980455 M * harry is that dlimit a dir?
1202980463 M * harry dlimits is a dir
1202980470 M * harry do i put a file in there called directory ?
1202980496 M * daniel_hozac in dlimits/X/directory, yes.
1202980503 M * harry what's x ?
1202980511 M * daniel_hozac whatever you want it to be...
1202980531 M * harry so e.g. echo / > dlimits/1/directory
1202980544 M * harry so e.g. echo 1024 > dlimits/1/space_total
1202980547 M * harry etc???
1202980574 M * daniel_hozac sure.
1202980611 M * harry wiiiiii
1202980616 M * harry it's NOT well documented...
1202980632 M * harry especially the <whatever you want it to be> part is ... well... it's not trivial 
1202980644 M * harry and the / is relative to the guest?
1202980662 M * harry do you need to restart your guest in order fot the changes to have effect?
1202980670 M * harry can you put more files in there from the host?
1202980675 M * harry what happens when you start the guest?
1202980676 M * daniel_hozac i think http://oldwiki.linux-vserver.org/Disk+Limits is pretty verbose.
1202980691 A * harry clicks
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1202980784 M * harry daniel_hozac: does the tagging work on nfs?
1202980790 M * gebura another way is to put vserver in their own filesystem (with lvm it is great)
1202980807 M * daniel_hozac maybe, it's been a while since anybody tested the NFS tagging.
1202980822 M * daniel_hozac gebura: then you lose all the interesting vserver features.
1202980855 M * harry gebura: that's what i have now...
1202980869 M * harry but we're planning on rolling out hundreds of vservers to the entire university
1202980870 M * gebura daniel_hozac, why ?
1202980874 M * harry which makes it... unmaintainable
1202980882 M * harry i want to be able to start any guest on any server
1202980885 M * harry so shared storage
1202980893 M * harry available on all systems
1202980902 M * daniel_hozac gebura: because they're no longer on the same device.
1202980920 M * harry but if i want that... it should be on nfs
1202980921 M * gebura but what will i loose ? quotas ? what else ?
1202980921 M * daniel_hozac thus, on different filesystems, thus no hardlinking.
1202980930 M * harry ==> i need to limit my guests disks
1202980942 M * harry ==> per guest disk limit
1202980944 M * harry on nfs
1202980949 M * daniel_hozac try it.
1202980962 A * harry tries on local disks first
1202980966 M * gebura hum ok
1202980966 M * harry see what that gives me :)
1202980972 M * daniel_hozac testfs already tests that...
1202980976 M * harry i'll keep you updated :)
1202980987 A * harry runs testfs then!
1202980990 M * gebura i never try unification hashification...
1202981008 M * harry gebura: if you have different lvm volumes for your guests... it wont work :)
1202981017 M * harry (tried it... wasted my time on that some time ago :))
1202981237 M * cehteh heh
1202981309 M * cehteh so put your vserver all on the same filesystem .. not because the diskspace but also because of saving ram
1202981662 M * padde i'd rather spend 2-3 GB per vserver then risking to get into trouble ;)
1202981685 M * padde s/then/than/
1202981717 M * cehteh what kinds of trouble?
1202981751 M * padde potential trouble with unification hashification ;)
1202981807 M * cehteh its quite safe and when you pretend it might be broken due a security leak in vserver, then better dont use vserver at all
1202981882 M * padde cehteh: i didn't mean security. i just don't like a script deleting files in my guests and stuff... perhaps i'm too conservative in this aspect ;)
1202981902 M * cehteh yes it doesnt delete
1202981931 M * padde cehteh: for a similar reasons i sticked with full backups until now - somehow there was always enough space available so i didn't need to go the incremental/differential route ;)
1202981945 M * padde cehteh: it does indeed. after creating a hardlink
1202981977 M * cehteh create a sha1 hashed dir of the files and then hardlinks
1202982113 M * padde cehteh: ok, i meant vunify (outdated info)
1202982151 M * padde cehteh: but when i read something like 'There seems to be a catch when a hashified file has multiple hardlinks inside a guest, or when another internal hardlink is added after hashification. Link breaking will remove all the internal hardlinks too, so the guest will end up with different copies of the original file.' i just happily stick with the multiple occurences of system files in the guests ;) it's not like i have 100 guests on my host anyway
1202982269 M * cehteh padde: yes at worst some links will be broken and the files coexist as seperate copies .. and very few programs cant handle link breaking
1202982295 M * cehteh but hardlinking makes only sense for some things .. notably binaries and libraries
1202982305 M * cehteh and thats known to work
1202982373 M * padde cehteh: i don't say you may not use it, don't get me wrong ;) (who am I to say something like that anyway?) - i just stated that i don't use it... the potential trouble outweighs the cost of 10 GB on my 800 GB RAID
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1202982470 M * cehteh padde: maybe :), but i saied the ram benefit is more worth .. even with enough ram you prolly like it used for something else like just N duplicates .. and dont forget about CPU cache misses because non unified pages .. and you cant upgrade cpu caches
1202982506 M * cehteh diskspace is hardly an argument today, i may agree
1202982540 M * padde cehteh: ok, i didn't think about that... good point
1202983947 M * Mufasa_nb hmmm ok, its not finding any of the rpm's in the repo.....
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1202984022 J * jsambrook ~jsambrook@aelfric.plus.com
1202984068 M * harry daniel_hozac: how do i install a yum system on a debian host?:
1202984069 M * harry gimlii:~# vserver test build -m yum --context 304 --hostname=test --interface eth0:10.33.113.192/255.255.255.0 -- -d centos5
1202984072 M * harry mount: mount point /etc/rpm does not exist
1202984075 M * harry rm: cannot remove directory `/usr/local/etc/vservers/.defaults/vdirbase/test': Device or resource busy
1202984090 M * harry i have rpm installed...
1202984093 M * daniel_hozac the Debian rpm package is broken, you have to mkdir /etc/rpm manually.
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1202985988 P * mattzerah 
1202986422 M * matti Morning :)
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1202996472 M * harry daniel_hozac: are you there?
1202996487 M * harry i just installed a new centos host
1202996496 M * harry but apparently it has no rpm or yum installed
1202996504 M * harry how do i fix that? and why is that?
1202996529 M * harry gimlii:~# vserver test build -m yum --context 304 --hostname=test --interface eth0:10.33.113.192/255.255.255.0 -- -d centos5
1202996533 M * harry that's how i made my servers
1202996555 M * daniel_hozac a centos host without yum? that's not possible.
1202996567 M * daniel_hozac a guest, on the other hand, won't have any of that stuff.
1202996581 M * harry its a centos guest
1202996595 M * harry why not??? how do i add packages?
1202996646 M * daniel_hozac so, install it.
1202996650 M * harry how?
1202996654 M * harry it has no rpm/yum/...
1202996657 M * daniel_hozac vyum <guest> -- install ...
1202996662 M * harry aha... vyum :)
1202996686 M * harry You are using a version of yum which is insecure and broken in chroot
1202996691 M * harry grmbl... allways that...
1202996693 M * harry i hate that
1202996741 J * CyberMonk hacker@2001:5c0:84dc:1:2::39
1202996742 M * harry than i need to internalize , right?
1202996776 M * daniel_hozac so, patch it?
1202996786 M * daniel_hozac yes, like all the howtos say.
1202996800 Q * dna Read error: Connection reset by peer
1202996803 M * harry why is that? why isn't that done by default?
1202996820 M * daniel_hozac because internal package management usually isn't needed.
1202996828 M * harry ????
1202996832 M * harry you want "virtual hosts"
1202996838 M * harry with packages etc...
1202996845 M * harry so why wouldn't you want pkgmgmt?
1202996907 M * daniel_hozac i admin most of my guests. for those guests, there's no point in putting yum in the guests, as i can just as easily run vyum.
1202996922 M * harry true
1202996936 M * harry but that's not useful if you want to "sell" guests
1202996949 M * harry those people want their own server, root, packages,...
1202997046 M * daniel_hozac exactly.
1202997068 M * daniel_hozac so you internalize it.
1202997354 M * harry gimlii:/vservers# chxid -c test -R test/
1202997354 M * harry test/: Invalid argument
1202997358 M * harry etc...
1202997368 M * daniel_hozac which means you didn't enable tagging on your filesystem.
1202997372 M * harry /www/test on /vservers/test type none (rw,bind,tagxid)
1202997393 M * harry  /www is an nfs mount
1202997414 M * harry perhaps i need to tagxid mount the nfs mount entirely...
1202997464 M * daniel_hozac and is /www mounted tagxid?
1202997470 M * harry noep :)
1202997481 M * harry i was afraid the bind mount alone wouldn't suffice :)
1202997506 M * harry Unsupported nfs mount option: tagxid
1202998685 J * dreamind ~dreamind@p579DAA90.dip.t-dialin.net
1202998724 M * dreamind Hi
1202998771 M * dreamind any news about the 2.6.24 patch? I saw its still at rc7
1202998979 M * harry daniel_hozac: help???
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1202999067 M * daniel_hozac dreamind: there's a lot of work to do, and not enough manhours...
1202999067 M * daniel_hozac harry: NFS uses a binary mount format, you probably need to patch the mount program, if it's even supported in your kernel.
1202999080 M * dreamind daniel_hozac: oh :(
1202999117 M * dreamind hm, maybe I can help, but first of all I will have to see what my next job will bring - so maybe if nobody else will fix this, I'll try to help in the next weeks :)
1202999146 M * dreamind because finally starting with next week I'll work at a different company who said they also use linux-vserver :)
1202999167 M * harry :(
1202999172 M * harry patch mount program...
1202999184 M * harry serious problems ... i hate it
1202999198 J * jsambrook ~jsambrook@aelfric.plus.com
1202999358 M * harry so daniel_hozac : its not 'workable' to just install a system, install vserver and get it working
1202999394 M * harry it's all: patch yum, patch dietlibc or use version X, patch mount program... hardly "easy going" it seems :S
1202999433 M * harry no support for sourcerouting of ip adresses
1202999444 M * harry outside the host's default routes....
1202999460 M * daniel_hozac huh?
1202999460 M * daniel_hozac eh, i yum install kernel yum util-vserver{,-build,-core,-lib,-sysv} and i'm done....
1202999479 M * daniel_hozac huh? Linux has had that for a really long time.
1202999579 M * harry daniel_hozac: what about the patched mount?
1202999628 J * dna ~dna@191-230-dsl.kielnet.net
1202999632 M * daniel_hozac NFS tagging is a really special feature. AFAIK, there's only one instance of someone using it.
1202999637 M * harry if i do what you say, there still is the problem with the nfs mounts, right?
1202999671 M * harry daniel_hozac: so i have to conclude that it's "practically impossible" to put your guests on nfs
1202999685 M * harry and make a HA setup like that
1202999696 J * balbir ~balbir@59.145.136.1
1202999699 M * harry since i can't restrict disk limits per guest on a nfs share
1202999735 M * daniel_hozac does your server also run a Linux-VServer kernel?
1202999735 M * daniel_hozac not really, you just can't use all the features.
1202999735 M * daniel_hozac the same is true for e.g. XFS.
1202999768 M * harry it's quite important to restrict disk limits of your guests
1202999777 M * harry especially when you have more than 1 on the same fs
1202999879 M * daniel_hozac well, patches accepted, and i'm sure you could hire Bertl_zZ to fix it.
1202999973 J * dna_ ~dna@61-240-dsl.kielnet.net
1203000077 J * clara30 ~clara30@ANantes-257-1-94-126.w90-25.abo.wanadoo.fr
1203000192 Q * clara30 
1203000378 M * yang munin is not working on a virtual server ... it stops when initialising plugins...?
1203000379 Q * dna Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1203000416 M * daniel_hozac why?
1203000427 M * yang Well I did aptitude install munin inside guest
1203000439 M * yang and it isnt suceeding
1203000558 M * yang root     31898  0.1  0.3   5056  3060 pts/6    S+   14:48   0:00  |                       |   \_ /usr/bin/perl -wT /usr/sbin/munin-run --servicedir /usr/share/munin/plugins if_err_ autoconf
1203000675 Q * balbir Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1203000775 M * yang it takes a long time to setup going over all plugins
1203000978 M * yang it seems to suceed in installing, i was just worried becouse it needed 15 minutes to set up
1203001103 M * michiel` yang: I installed munin in a vserver before, but I can't remember having any delays in setting it up
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1203001922 J * ntrs ~ntrs@vs079.rosehosting.com
1203001924 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl
1203001928 M * Bertl morning folks!
1203001979 M * JonB hey Bertl 
1203001992 M * dreamind Hi Bertl :)
1203002087 M * Bertl yang: is your resolver working inside the guest?
1203002164 M * JonB damn, i read that as "is your reVolver working inside the guest"
1203002200 M * Radiance lol too much die hard ;)
1203002210 M * Bertl JonB: should we be worried? :)
1203002261 M * JonB Bertl: i dont think so, i dont have a gun, i dont know where to get one and i never did any military service, so i havent been trained (or tainted as some might say)
1203002266 M * JonB Radiance: i suppose
1203002295 M * Bertl JonB: those are the most dangerous folks with a resolver :)
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1203002325 M * JonB Bertl: i'd probably shoot myself in the foot
1203002342 M * JonB or maybe in the head, as it looks like my GF has left me :-(
1203002403 M * Bertl ah now we know where the V comes from ... when did she leave? today? on valentine's day?
1203002456 M * JonB Bertl: no, not today
1203002520 M * JonB Bertl: maybe monday was the last straw, but she ment with me thuesday to clean the old appartment. We were suppose to go on a little holiday yesterday, but she canceled our tickets and went alone to some family
1203002544 M * JonB we now live in 2 seperate appartments, so i dont know if i'll see her again
1203002570 M * Bertl oww, looks like something went wrong ...
1203002598 M * JonB maybe those 13 years age difference was too much when she is so young (20)
1203002604 M * Bertl unfortunately those things are not as easy to handle/fix as kernel code ...
1203002623 M * JonB Bertl: they sure are not
1203002643 M * JonB but i'm sure i'll manage somehow
1203002649 M * Bertl what about some 'cubic equation solving'?
1203002674 M * Bertl aka. Origami :)
1203002709 M * JonB at the moment i am busy getting my own new appartment setup so i can live there
1203002718 M * JonB i have too much stuff :-(
1203002987 M * yang Bertl: Hi ! It started to graph now, did you mean resolver in resolv.conf ?
1203003050 M * Bertl yang: yes, longer delays are often caused by nameserver timeouts
1203003125 M * yang yeah the resolver is working
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1203009195 J * SDwarfs ~abc@213162066158.public.t-mobile.at
1203009401 M * SDwarfs hi there... Can anyone tell me weather its possible to get valgrind with --db-attach=yes working under vserver (using 2.6.22er debian kernel)... since I switched to the vserver kernel I'm not able to work with valgrind without that problem: When an error is found I can normaly attach gdb to the running process and debug it. But under vserver (also on the hostsystem itself) gdb just does not start - but I dont have any glue why and whats the p
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1203009675 M * daniel_hozac just when using valgrind? because gdb works fine here...
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1203010845 M * SDwarfs gdb itself works fine. maybe just when attaching gdb to a running process???
1203010861 M * Bertl well, give it a try?
1203010881 M * SDwarfs Im just working on it *g*
1203011077 M * dreamind ok I'm going home :)
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1203011188 J * SDwarfs2 ~abc@M3490P000.adsl.highway.telekom.at
1203011195 Q * chigital Read error: No route to host
1203011226 M * SDwarfs2 Tried it... gdb can successfully connect to the process and debug it
1203011348 M * Bertl so, maybe a valgrind specific issue?
1203011362 M * Bertl try enable some debugging (if available)
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1203011375 M * SDwarfs2 its only occuring with valgrind and vserver in combination
1203011391 M * Bertl hmm, how did you verify that?
1203011484 M * SDwarfs2 I currently can not switch back to a non-vserver kernel, but its exactly since I switched to the vserver kernel
1203011509 M * Bertl and you had the same kernel, except for the Linux-VServer patch before?
1203011542 J * fatgoose ~samuel@76-10-149-199.dsl.teksavvy.com
1203011564 M * SDwarfs2 I have to say that I'm unsure about this... I first installed an older vserver-kernel (but same as the one I used before)
1203011610 M * SDwarfs2 but Im unsure weather I did work with valgrind ... till i upgraded to the backports-kernel
1203011624 M * SDwarfs2 I will have a look into .bash_history... will take some time
1203011718 M * Bertl note: I'm not saying that it isn't Linux-VServer related, but you should double check with identical kernels
1203011894 M * SDwarfs2 Bertl: Ok, I will do that. On the vmware on my local machine... but not now (have not that much time now)
1203011909 M * SDwarfs2 Bertl: Will let you know the results...
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1203012257 M * Bertl SDwarfs2: excellent!
1203013906 J * TheSeer ~theseer@border.office.nonfood.de
1203013912 M * TheSeer heya :)
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1203014923 M * mnemoc hi, i have always tested updates on a local qemu, but now i want to do it inside a screen on my remote build server (to save bandwidth)
1203014971 M * mnemoc does anyone have an "off hand" command line to get the console on this pts?
1203015032 M * mnemoc using -serial $(tty) -monitor $(tty) i finally can type things... but it's on (qemu)'s prompt ... not on the emulated system
1203015666 M * Chr0nicles vserver is great :P ah sweet 2.6.22.18 patch \o/
1203015699 M * Chr0nicles the downside of custom kernels... waiting for patches :/
1203015711 M * Chr0nicles but i'm happy vserver was darn fast ;P
1203015725 M * Chr0nicles so again: thx ;)
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1203018198 M * mnemoc doh, my problem with qemu -nographic is that i have serial support as a module :\
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1203032213 M * derjohn Bertl, did you have a look at my bug reports for patch-2.6.24-rc7-vs2.2.0.5.0.7-pre.diff ?
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