1202429124 Q * jescheng Remote host closed the connection 1202429137 J * jescheng ~jescheng@proxy-sjc-2.cisco.com 1202429279 J * C14r_ ~C14r@h58173.serverkompetenz.net 1202429295 J * Loki_muh loki@satanix.de 1202429320 Q * C14r Read error: Connection reset by peer 1202429320 Q * Loki|muh Remote host closed the connection 1202429320 N * Loki_muh Loki|muh 1202430254 Q * Infinito Quit: Leaving 1202430799 J * Infinito ~argos@201-2-73-175.gnace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br 1202431321 Q * hparker Quit: Quit 1202431927 J * hparker ~hparker@linux.homershut.net 1202432390 Q * dowdle Remote host closed the connection 1202432663 J * chidigital ~chigital@p5B0C5523.dip.t-dialin.net 1202432688 Q * chigital Read error: No route to host 1202434559 J * Aiken ~james@ppp59-167-117-30.lns3.bne4.internode.on.net 1202434736 Q * xdr Remote host closed the connection 1202434964 Q * hparker Quit: Read error: 104 (Peer reset by connection) 1202436470 M * Bertl okay, off to bed now ... have a good one everyone! 1202436477 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ 1202437412 Q * fatgoose Quit: fatgoose 1202437805 Q * jazzanova Quit: Leaving 1202438165 J * friendly12345 ~friendly@ppp121-44-198-55.lns3.mel4.internode.on.net 1202441553 J * _gh_ ~gerrit@65.202.42.142 1202442046 Q * Infinito Quit: Leaving 1202442102 Q * balbir Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1202442947 Q * CyberMonk Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1202443115 Q * ridgey Quit: BitchX: for distribution only with a new PC 1202446576 J * balbir ~balbir@122.167.199.244 1202448278 J * CyberMonk hacker@Chatter.Of.The.United.States.Of.America.Name 1202448607 Q * balbir Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1202448808 J * xdr ~xdr@21-173-96-87.cust.blixtvik.se 1202449842 J * sharkjaw ~gab@shell.ormset.no 1202450402 Q * jescheng Remote host closed the connection 1202450413 J * jescheng ~jescheng@proxy-sjc-1.cisco.com 1202452873 J * balbir ~balbir@59.145.136.1 1202453592 J * Slydder ~chuck@194.59.17.53 1202453667 M * Slydder morning all 1202454181 J * JonB ~NoSuchUse@kg0-128.kollegiegaarden.dk 1202454434 J * _CyberMonk hacker@Chatter.Of.The.United.States.Of.America.Name 1202454454 J * daniel_hozac_ ~daniel@ssh.hozac.com 1202454686 J * dddh_ ~dddh@dddh.broker.freenet6.net 1202454767 J * nou_ Chaton@causse.larzac.fr.eu.org 1202454905 M * friendly12345 Hi there 1202455212 Q * CyberMonk charon.oftc.net venus.oftc.net 1202455212 Q * dddh charon.oftc.net venus.oftc.net 1202455212 Q * daniel_hozac charon.oftc.net venus.oftc.net 1202455212 Q * nou charon.oftc.net venus.oftc.net 1202455219 N * _CyberMonk CyberMonk 1202456668 Q * balbir Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1202456874 J * WDTY ~root@82-171-214-117.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl 1202456889 Q * _gh_ Read error: Operation timed out 1202457529 J * gebura ~gebura@77.192.186.197 1202457535 Q * JonB Quit: This computer has gone to sleep 1202458100 N * daniel_hozac_ daniel_hozac 1202458238 N * enkahel__ enkahel_ 1202458302 M * gebura hi 1202458484 J * JonB ~NoSuchUse@kg0-128.kollegiegaarden.dk 1202459345 Q * chidigital Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1202459354 N * WDTY bennyneyman 1202459354 M * bennyneyman NICK bennyneyman 1202459967 N * bennyneyman WDTY 1202460013 Q * WDTY Quit: WDTY 1202460937 M * cehteh heh derjohn :) 1202461037 M * derjohn cehteh, mr. cin3l3rra :) 1202461117 M * cehteh shall i add that as new name proposal? :) 1202461148 M * cehteh well ... seems there is some work ahead now (ok that was in planning for almost 1 year) 1202461151 M * derjohn cehteh, ehm, no, it's not heroic enough ! ;) 1202461182 M * cehteh while i am currently making some git webfrontend where people can edit code wiki-alike 1202461196 M * derjohn cehteh, the name xenas horse would be fit in name naming-world of that tool 1202461198 M * cehteh cin3 is paused, continued after that 1202461212 M * cehteh whats its name? 1202461221 M * derjohn dunno - i dont have a TV ;) 1202461226 M * cehteh rofl 1202461271 M * derjohn is you interest in cin3 hobby or professional ? 1202461298 M * cehteh my wife wants to edit videos 1202461307 M * cehteh well and we will try to get some funding later 1202461424 Q * JonB Quit: This computer has gone to sleep 1202461769 M * derjohn hm, wouldnt kino not be an alternative ? 1202461902 J * pisco ~pisco@tor.noreply.org 1202461985 J * dna ~dna@232-223-dsl.kielnet.net 1202462048 M * cehteh derjohn: rofl :) 1202462072 M * cehteh current cinelerra is lightyears ahead of kino 1202462107 M * cehteh btw http://www.linux.com/feature/126441 original article 1202462252 M * derjohn cehteh, /me uses kino .... but do not really "cut" very much .... 1202462278 M * derjohn i tried to build cin on debian some years ago, but gave up ... 1202462292 M * derjohn is the a debian package meanwhile ? 1202462301 M * cehteh got better now .. ususally it is buildable, but it has quite some dependencies 1202462317 M * cehteh while what we are doing now is a complete rewrite 1202462330 M * derjohn uffff. sounds like work 1202462367 M * cehteh yeah .. likely busy for the next few years 1202462619 P * friendly12345 1202462790 N * DoberMann[ZZZzzz] DoberMann 1202463008 J * ema ~ema@rtfm.galliera.it 1202463456 Q * ||Cobra|| Remote host closed the connection 1202463834 J * ||Cobra|| ~cob@pc-csa01.science.uva.nl 1202464832 Q * ema Quit: leaving 1202465151 J * chidigital ~chigital@91.90.144.102 1202465341 J * balbir ~balbir@59.145.136.1 1202465363 J * mattzerah ~matt@121.50.220.20 1202466420 M * matti Morning folks :) 1202466533 A * ard6 tried cinelerra once 1202466540 M * ard6 and then I ran out of disk space 1202466597 A * ard6 used the marillat cinelera debian package 1202466777 N * mattzerah mattzerah`away 1202467491 J * esa ~esa@ip-87-238-2-45.static.adsl.cheapnet.it 1202467940 N * mattzerah`away mattzerah 1202469116 N * mattzerah mattzerah`afk 1202470375 N * mattzerah`afk mattzerah 1202471050 Q * chidigital Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1202471453 J * pisco_ ~pisco@tor.noreply.org 1202471456 Q * pisco Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1202471570 J * chidigital ~chigital@91.90.144.102 1202472388 P * mattzerah So long, and thanks for the fish 1202472912 Q * mnemoc Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1202473378 J * mnemoc ~amery@kilo105.server4you.de 1202473755 J * ftx ~ftx@dslb-084-062-254-201.pools.arcor-ip.net 1202473804 Q * dna Read error: Connection reset by peer 1202473829 J * dna ~dna@232-223-dsl.kielnet.net 1202474374 Q * Skram Quit: Lost terminal 1202474436 J * JonB ~NoSuchUse@kg0-128.kollegiegaarden.dk 1202474446 Q * pisco_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1202474516 J * ema ~ema@rtfm.galliera.it 1202474735 J * pisco ~pisco@tor.noreply.org 1202475290 Q * chidigital Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1202475363 Q * Aiken Remote host closed the connection 1202476747 Q * pisco Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1202478731 M * Slydder strange. I can ping a new guest from the host and world but the guest can't reach the net. 1202478983 Q * balbir Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1202479334 J * _gh_ ~gerrit@65.202.42.142 1202479697 M * Slydder anyone alive today? 1202479713 M * daniel_hozac sure. 1202479744 M * Slydder having a strange problem with a new guest. I can ping a new guest from the host and world but the guest can't reach the net. 1202479780 M * daniel_hozac are you sure the address you've assigned it isn't assigned somewhere else? 1202479788 M * Slydder positive 1202479801 M * Slydder will change it just to make sure though 1202479901 M * Slydder no go. even with another ip it won't reach the net. but I can still reach it from any computer 1202479940 M * Slydder and it's a fresh install too. just did it today 1202480038 M * Slydder what gets on my nerves is that I can't use ping or traceroute in the guest 1202480041 M * Supaplex it's too early for the alive stuff 1202480128 M * Slydder and route -C even shows it in the table 1202480128 M * Supaplex Slydder: guests have less capabilities unless you permit them 1202480206 M * Slydder how would I allow a guest to ping? 1202480214 M * daniel_hozac that's allowed by default. 1202480310 M * Slydder if I call route -C inside the guest it takes forever to return 1202480315 Q * sharkjaw Quit: Leaving 1202480322 M * Supaplex try -n with it 1202480349 M * Supaplex or fix dns :) 1202480361 M * daniel_hozac try ping -I google.com on the host. 1202480402 M * Slydder works fine 1202480417 M * daniel_hozac so what exactly doesn't work? 1202480458 M * Slydder from the host it works. from the guest it doesn't 1202480479 M * daniel_hozac try with the IP instead of google.com 1202480513 M * Slydder webcp:/# ping 216.239.59.104 1202480513 M * Slydder ping: icmp open socket: Operation not permitted 1202480539 M * Slydder at least now i get the error I'm used to in a guest. lol 1202480663 M * daniel_hozac what kernel/utils? that's been working by default for quite some time... 1202480672 M * daniel_hozac (like, years) 1202480703 M * Slydder just did a new kernel build to get the loopback devices working. 1202480721 M * Slydder the latest vserver release 1202480745 M * Slydder i installed one yesterday and it works fine. 1202481401 J * dowdle ~dowdle@scott.coe.montana.edu 1202482218 N * Bertl_zZ Bert 1202482381 N * Bert Bertl 1202482388 M * Bertl greetings! 1202482413 M * Slydder hey bertl 1202482564 M * Slydder bertl: how do I add a ccaps context capability 1202482690 J * fatgoose ~samuel@76-10-149-199.dsl.teksavvy.com 1202482784 Q * dddh_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1202482800 J * dddh_ ~dddh@dddh.broker.freenet6.net 1202483132 M * Bertl Slydder: vattribute or via the config (ccapabilities) 1202483267 M * Slydder but where? have been reading for like an hour and can find no info other than a short camio in the FAQ - A: For now the networking is 'Host Business' -- the host is a router, and each guest is a server. You can set the capability ICMP_RAW in the context of the guest, or even the capability CAP_NET_RAW (which would even allow to sniff interfaces of other guests!). Likely to change with ngnet. 1202483317 M * Slydder found 2 mentions in the mailing list archive (really needs to be searchable) but nothing concrete 1202483406 M * Slydder found it 1202483681 M * Slydder strange. even after adding raw_icmp to ccapabilities I am still not allowed to ping from a guest. 1202483864 M * Bertl linux-vserver.org/Capabilities_and_Flags 1202483900 M * Bertl http://www.nongnu.org/util-vserver/doc/conf/configuration.html 1202483903 M * Slydder am still reading but it just won't work. this is one strange guest. I don't have this problem on any others 1202483938 M * Bertl check that the guest _has_ the capability 1202484071 M * Bertl /proc/virtual//status and info 1202484175 M * Slydder ok. 1202484226 M * Slydder now i am allowed to ping but I still have no network connection. seems to be no route or something. strange because I can still ping the guest from the host or from another server. 1202484307 M * Slydder it would seem I can now ping the host from the guest but that is all. 1202484428 J * chigital ~chigital@91.90.144.102 1202484603 J * balbir ~balbir@122.167.213.212 1202484702 Q * gebura Remote host closed the connection 1202484866 M * Bertl your guest has a public ip? 1202484873 M * Slydder yeah 1202484881 M * Bertl and that ip is routed properly? 1202484905 M * Bertl try 'ping -I www.google.com' on the host 1202484918 M * Slydder shows up in the host route table I can ping outside from host using ping -l guest_ip target 1202484926 M * Slydder lol 1202484934 M * Slydder yeah it is routed correctly. 1202484974 M * Slydder but if i do ping 216.239.59.104 from inside the guest it just sits there. 1202485028 M * Bertl that sounds a little strange 1202485035 M * Slydder exactly 1202485040 M * Slydder all the other guests work fine. 1202485044 M * Bertl could you do a tcpdump -vvnei on the interface with the following test command 1202485047 M * Slydder this one is being strange 1202485074 M * Bertl 'ping -c 1 -I 1202485081 M * Bertl 'ping -c 1 -I 209.85.129.99' 1202485087 M * Bertl on both, host and guest 1202485101 M * Bertl (maybe use tcpdump -vvnei icmp 1202485113 M * Slydder can't get tcpdump installed on the guest atm. no network 1202485121 M * Bertl and upload both dumps to paste.linux-vserver.org 1202485132 M * Bertl tcpdump on the host, always :) 1202485338 M * Slydder strange. tcpdump tells me no such device 1202485365 M * Slydder lol. am blind atm. 1202485675 M * Slydder getting massive network traffic and there is nothing active 1202485686 M * Bertl massive icmp traffic? 1202485700 M * Slydder tcp 1202485702 M * Slydder mostly 1202485705 M * Bertl 16:38 < Bertl> (maybe use tcpdump -vvnei icmp 1202485725 M * Slydder much better. lol 1202485954 M * Slydder http://paste.linux-vserver.org/11733 1202486058 M * Slydder ping from guest was ping -c 1 209.85.129.99 and ping from host was ping -c 1 -l 195.98.207.84 209.85.129.99 1202486087 M * Slydder host IP is 195.98.200.46 1202486088 M * daniel_hozac you need -I (capital I), not -l. 1202486095 M * daniel_hozac uh, capital i, of course. 1202486118 M * Slydder a lower case L 1202486143 J * ktwilight ~ktwilight@29.214-66-87.adsl-static.isp.belgacom.be 1202486150 M * Slydder as you can see the second ping works where the first one dies. 1202486162 M * daniel_hozac yes, and the second ping uses an entirely different IP address. 1202486238 M * Slydder as do the rest of the guests that work perfectly 1202486259 M * Slydder already have 20+ guests running and all are good. 1202486273 M * daniel_hozac so it's obviously a problem with that IP. 1202486292 M * Slydder have already changed the ip 4 times to known free ips 1202486306 M * daniel_hozac does your router know about that? 1202486335 M * Slydder router table is good 1202486386 M * Slydder try pinging 195.98.207.84 somebody 1202486657 M * Slydder could someone please ping the above ip. I have shut the guest down and want to make sure that someone hasn't hijacked the ip 1202486830 M * Slydder ok. i'll take a look at it later tonight. have to go shopping right quick. 1202487512 Q * esa Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1202487884 J * esa ~esa@ip-87-238-2-45.static.adsl.cheapnet.it 1202488300 Q * _gh_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1202489138 M * ard6 7. 195.71.142.114 0.0% 4 33.5 40.1 33.5 53.8 9.5 1202489138 M * ard6 8. 195.98.223.227 0.0% 4 34.6 42.0 34.6 47.4 5.4 1202489138 M * ard6 9. ??? 1202489158 M * ard6 so the router doesn't know it 1202489188 M * ard6 And refuses to send a Host unreachable 1202489200 M * ard6 or it knows it. 1202489207 M * mnemoc try tcptraceroute 1202489207 J * doener ~doener@i577BAE4C.versanet.de 1202489207 M * ard6 and the host doesn't respond 1202489312 M * ard6 8 fa-2-0-42-bb01.sn.p4.net (195.98.223.227) 42.076 ms 42.014 ms 42.188 ms 1202489312 M * ard6 9 * * * 1202489348 A * ard6 cannot imagine that the host is 195.98.200.46 and the vserver is 195.98.207.84... 1202489387 M * ard6 that would be an absurd big network size 1202489414 P * kaouete 1202489711 M * Bertl okay, have to leave now ... bbl 1202489717 N * Bertl Bertl_oO 1202490069 M * ard6 O/~ 1202490287 M * TrueBrain ard6: how did your move to vserver go? 1202490387 M * ard6 http://online.speurders.nl/ 1202490391 M * ard6 it w0rks :-) 1202490396 M * TrueBrain concratz :) 1202490399 M * ard6 almost flawless 1202490408 A * ard6 forgot to modprobe nf_conntrack_ftp 1202490411 M * ard6 but that's all 1202490414 M * TrueBrain hehe :) 1202490426 M * TrueBrain if that were ALL your problems, you did a really nice job :) 1202490436 M * ard6 Ow, and of course, forgot to replace the 127.0.0.1 in the exim config 1202490444 M * TrueBrain ah :) That sounds more like it ;) 1202490449 M * TrueBrain standard things to forget ;) 1202490470 M * ard6 yeah, I didn't have a setup to test it. 1202490481 M * TrueBrain don't we all have that problem? :) 1202490501 M * ard6 99% could be tested, but e-mail is a problem, you don't want to accidentally mail customers :-) 1202490508 M * TrueBrain hehe 1202490513 M * ard6 so all outgoing flows were blocked 1202490536 M * TrueBrain smart move ;) 1202490572 M * TrueBrain I really thing we can make a list of the default things people forget ;) Changing IPs, settings resolv.conf, starting services, installing that one tool you always use, ... ;) 1202490592 M * ard6 But everybody is happy, and they claim it is even faster now 1202490602 M * TrueBrain is it really? 1202490628 M * TrueBrain thing = think btw, of course 1202490643 M * ard6 well, it was a move from a dell 1850 (3.2 GHz dual core) to a dell 2950 (2GHz Dual quad core) 1202490672 M * TrueBrain dual quad core, lol :) 1202490677 M * ard6 but it seems that a single core2 core is faster than an older P4 core... 1202490684 M * ard6 so that explains it :-) 1202490697 A * ard6 needs to do some personal maintenance 1202490701 M * TrueBrain enjoy that ;) 1202490908 M * Tuxbubling but it seems that a single core2 core is faster than an older P4 core... << fortunately :D 1202490994 J * jazzanova ~boris@66.109.22.212 1202490997 M * jazzanova hi 1202491011 J * bonbons ~bonbons@2001:960:7ab:0:2c0:9fff:fe2d:39d 1202491012 M * jazzanova I have rsynced a vserver into the wrong dir. how can I deleted it safely ? 1202491038 M * jazzanova i'm afraid of hard links pointing back to my fs, no to delete something. 1202491151 M * ard6 Tuxbubling : well, I mean faster like in 2 times... A 2GHz Xeon core2 core vs a 3.2GHz Xeon P4 core 1202491184 M * Tuxbubling yeah doesn't impress me much 1202491194 M * Tuxbubling that's how it's supposed to work 1202491225 M * ard6 The thing is that DELL put bnx2 ethernet into the new servers and e1000 into the old. 1202491249 M * ard6 For networking purposes we must stick with e1000, because the bnx2 can't cope with > 150kp/s 1202491257 M * ard6 or even 100kp/s 1202491281 M * ard6 so that's a big - for the new servers :-) 1202491298 M * ard6 processors fast enough, only the hardware can't cope with the speed 1202491359 J * larsivi ~larsivi@144.84-48-50.nextgentel.com 1202491364 M * ard6 (e1000 has a 4k packet buffer, and the bnx2 only 4x256 packets) 1202491427 M * jazzanova how do I safely delete a guest ? 1202491668 Q * jazzanova Quit: Leaving 1202492828 J * ensc ~irc-ensc@77.235.182.26 1202493012 P * fs Leaving 1202493123 J * ftx_ ~ftx@dslb-084-062-254-110.pools.arcor-ip.net 1202493289 N * DoberMann DoberMann[PullA] 1202493510 Q * chigital Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1202493561 Q * ftx Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1202493605 Q * jescheng Remote host closed the connection 1202493621 J * jescheng ~jescheng@proxy-sjc-1.cisco.com 1202494422 J * coocoon ~coocoon@dslb-084-056-129-132.pools.arcor-ip.net 1202494440 Q * coocoon 1202494443 J * coocoon ~coocoon@dslb-084-056-129-132.pools.arcor-ip.net 1202494469 M * coocoon hello 1202494473 J * |coocoon| ~coocoon@dslb-084-056-129-132.pools.arcor-ip.net 1202494491 Q * |coocoon| 1202494496 Q * coocoon 1202494507 J * coocoon ~coocoon@dslb-084-056-129-132.pools.arcor-ip.net 1202495866 Q * coocoon Quit: KVIrc 3.2.0 'Realia' 1202497028 Q * dowdle Quit: Konversation terminated! 1202497090 J * dowdle ~dowdle@scott.coe.montana.edu 1202498445 Q * ema Quit: leaving 1202498677 J * chigital ~chigital@p5B0C6195.dip.t-dialin.net 1202499173 J * trippeh atomt@uff.ugh.no 1202499458 M * Tuxbubling hello 1202499477 M * Tuxbubling how do i load yum plugins in vyum? 1202499516 M * Tuxbubling like basearchonly plugin 1202499723 J * ktwilight_ ~ktwilight@250.65-66-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be 1202500009 Q * ktwilight Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1202500015 J * hparker ~hparker@linux.homershut.net 1202500681 Q * ktwilight_ Remote host closed the connection 1202500759 Q * fatgoose Quit: fatgoose 1202500812 J * fatgoose ~samuel@76-10-149-199.dsl.teksavvy.com 1202500822 Q * fatgoose 1202501155 Q * JonB Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1202501223 J * JonB ~NoSuchUse@kg1-68.kollegiegaarden.dk 1202501808 N * Bertl_oO Bertl 1202501957 M * Bertl evening folks! 1202502011 M * Tuxbubling hey Bertl 1202503360 J * fatgoose ~samuel@bas5-quebec14-1177836757.dsl.bell.ca 1202503890 Q * fatgoose Quit: fatgoose 1202505862 J * Aiken ~james@ppp59-167-117-30.lns3.bne4.internode.on.net 1202506526 Q * dna Read error: Connection reset by peer 1202506550 J * dna ~dna@232-223-dsl.kielnet.net 1202506800 J * ftx__ ~ftx@dslb-084-060-224-113.pools.arcor-ip.net 1202507121 Q * ftx_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1202508263 Q * hparker Quit: leftover ribs 1202508666 Q * micah Quit: leaving 1202508670 J * oauto ~micah@micah.riseup.net 1202508692 N * oauto micah 1202509152 Q * bonbons Quit: Leaving 1202509333 J * derjohn_mobil ~aj@p5B23F696.dip.t-dialin.net 1202510112 J * dna_ ~dna@210-230-dsl.kielnet.net 1202510398 Q * ftx__ Remote host closed the connection 1202510438 Q * dna Read error: Operation timed out 1202511112 Q * JonB Quit: This computer has gone to sleep 1202511372 Q * derjohn_mobil Remote host closed the connection 1202511689 J * derjohn_mobil ~aj@p5B23F696.dip.t-dialin.net 1202511706 J * dna ~dna@210-230-dsl.kielnet.net 1202512087 Q * dna_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1202512420 Q * mnemoc Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1202512421 Q * morfoh Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1202513670 J * coocoon ~coocoon@dslb-084-056-167-148.pools.arcor-ip.net 1202513704 M * coocoon hello 1202513711 P * wp 1202513762 J * _gh_ ~gerrit@65.202.42.142 1202513769 M * Bertl wb coocoon! 1202514162 M * coocoon bertl what happens here no probs, looks good 1202514221 M * Bertl excellent! 1202514848 J * mire ~mire@99-171-222-85.adsl.verat.net 1202515048 Q * dna Quit: Verlassend