1202342438 M * zbyniu and it works pretty on lo
1202342471 M * zbyniu but with vs2.3 i cant create such config
1202342483 M * Bertl hmm, why not?
1202342503 M * Bertl I mean, not that it would make sense to do so, but sure it's possible
1202342562 M * zbyniu tried lback_remap, hide_lback, setting lback/bcast etc
1202342581 M * Bertl that will 'remap' the ip to 127.0.0.1
1202342598 M * Bertl which might not be what you want/expect
1202342616 Q * jescheng Remote host closed the connection
1202342627 J * jescheng ~jescheng@proxy-sjc-2.cisco.com
1202342635 M * zbyniu but inside it works (127.0.0.X), but not between guests
1202342636 M * Bertl but OTOH, that is the way you handle 'isolated' lo on 2.3
1202342649 Q * Infinito Quit: Leaving
1202342672 M * Bertl you want to use the normal IP setup/config not the lback if you want that address to be reachable across guests
1202342690 M * Bertl you also want to disable the lback remapping in this case
1202342702 J * _gh_ ~gerrit@65.202.42.142
1202342711 M * zbyniu i know, and it is good, but i have old little strange instalation with these connections
1202342745 M * Bertl yep, should be fine, just disable the remapping for the guests, and assign the 127.0.0.x as you did before in the interfaces (not as lback)
1202342762 M * zbyniu uhm
1202342834 M * zbyniu i tried dummy0 also, but i'm not sure with what remap flag
1202342877 M * Bertl doesn't matter if dummy0 or lo, the flags can be found here: http://linux-vserver.org/Capabilities_and_Flags
1202342900 M * Bertl LBACK_REMAP. HIDE_LBACK is what you want to disable
1202342997 M * zbyniu # telnet 127.0.0.80 80
1202342997 M * zbyniu Trying 127.0.0.80.80...
1202342997 M * zbyniu telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Operation not permitted
1202343026 M * Bertl did you disable the LBACK remap?
1202343030 M * zbyniu inside guest, ~lback_remap, ~hide_lback
1202343045 M * Bertl and the one you are trying to reach?
1202343047 M * zbyniu     inet 127.0.0.80/8 brd 127.255.255.255 scope host dummy0
1202343083 M * zbyniu it is local address for this guest
1202343141 M * Bertl okay, can you upload the output of /proc/virtnet/<nid>/* to paste.linux-vserver.org please?
1202343150 M * Bertl (with the nid of this guest)
1202343155 M * zbyniu ok
1202343232 M * zbyniu http://paste.linux-vserver.org/11727
1202343273 Q * chigital Remote host closed the connection
1202343354 M * Bertl hmm, that looks like a bug, did you bind anything to 127.0.0.80 inside the guest?
1202343375 M * Bertl i.e. does 'lsof -ni :80' show something?
1202343429 M * zbyniu yes, apache 
1202343452 M * Bertl what kernel/patch version is that?
1202343454 M * zbyniu btw, what is Lback:  127.0.80.1 and how can i use it? :)
1202343472 Q * Piet Quit: Piet
1202343491 M * Bertl the lback is the dynamically assigned loopback address (127.x.y.1) where x:y is the network context
1202343492 M * zbyniu it's pld kernel of course, so with _many_ other patches :)
1202343496 M * zbyniu 2.6.22.14
1202343526 M * zbyniu with... hmm 2.3.0.26(?)
1202343643 M * zbyniu ok, but is that 127.x.y.1 usable though? it can be set, what for? :)
1202343669 M * Bertl it will be used as a replacement for 127.0.0.1
1202343676 M * Bertl and isolated between guests
1202343704 M * zbyniu ah, clever
1202343728 M * Bertl yeah, basically that seems to be biting you atm :)
1202343804 M * zbyniu sacrifice of progress :)
1202343814 M * Bertl let me check if I can recreate this issue with mainline
1202344204 J * chigital ~chigital@p5B0C3BEE.dip.t-dialin.net
1202344247 M * Bertl welcome chigital!
1202344561 J * aj__ ~aj@e180203001.adsl.alicedsl.de
1202344575 M * chigital hi
1202344590 M * zbyniu Bertl: next test -  problem is in 127/8 network, lo dev doesn't matter
1202344597 M * chigital it?s time to going to bed
1202344608 M * chigital bye
1202344612 M * Bertl zbyniu: yes, I somewhat exüected that
1202344617 M * Bertl chigital: have a good one!
1202344642 M * chigital thx, you too
1202344973 M * zbyniu ok, i can change all 127... adresses in this box
1202344996 M * Bertl let me check this here, you can expect a patch to fix that
1202345020 M * Bertl still trying to recreate it here
1202345050 M * zbyniu but imo it is bug, it should not make all this clever translations if ~lback_remap, am i right?
1202345060 M * Bertl correct
1202345176 Q * chigital Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1202345233 M * Bertl zbyniu: can you check for me that you can reach the 127.0.0.80 from the host?
1202345302 M * zbyniu ok, with what flags?
1202345350 M * Bertl with lback stuff disabled
1202345353 Q * dowdle Remote host closed the connection
1202345447 J * jazzanova ~boris@66.109.22.212
1202345448 M * jazzanova hi
1202345458 M * Bertl wb jazzanova!
1202345464 M * jazzanova hello Bertl :)
1202345472 M * zbyniu it works from host
1202345473 M * jazzanova i got a new server, with updated kernel and so on.
1202345521 M * Bertl jazzanova: congrats!
1202345524 M * jazzanova 2.6.18-6-vserver-686
1202345528 M * jazzanova is this a good kernel ?
1202345545 M * Bertl well, it seems to be an older centos kernel :)
1202345556 M * jazzanova i'm on debian etch
1202345566 M * Bertl ah, yes, that is possible too
1202345573 M * jazzanova so which version should I use ?
1202345573 M * Bertl upgrading to a newer one won't hurt
1202345590 M * Bertl 2.6.22.16+ with vs2.2.06
1202345685 M * jazzanova do youknow where I can get a .deb for etch ready to go ?
1202345726 M * Bertl you should get a recent deb from backports
1202346022 M * jazzanova doing it
1202346055 M * jazzanova i'd like to rsync my vserver instance from my old server
1202346073 M * jazzanova does it matter that that one was running on older vserevr kerner, and maybe tools ?
1202346087 M * Bertl rsync -axHPSD --numeric-ids ...
1202346118 M * Bertl if you have a really old config, you might want to get recent tools and rebuild the config with the rsync build method
1202346145 M * Bertl see 'vserver - build --help' for details
1202346214 M * jazzanova this is what I have on my old server host:
1202346217 M * jazzanova util-vserver: 0.30.214; Nov 13 2007, 19:26:46
1202346274 J * jazzanova_ ~boris@69.72.214.226
1202346293 M * Bertl that is pretty much up-to-date so you should be fine there
1202346308 M * jazzanova_ but in fact, i have upgraded it
1202346313 M * jazzanova_ thhe original install was older tools
1202346319 M * Bertl i.e. just rsync the guest config and data over 
1202346319 M * jazzanova_ however, the system is working
1202346326 Q * jazzanova Quit: Leaving
1202346582 M * jazzanova_ can you please repost that rsync command and help command
1202346585 M * jazzanova_ i lost it
1202346777 M * Bertl http://irc.13thfloor.at/LOG/2008-02/LOG_2008-02-07.txt
1202346797 M * jazzanova_ great domain name
1202346822 M * Bertl you know the 13thfloor?
1202346852 M * jazzanova_ the movie
1202346855 M * Bertl yep
1202346866 M * jazzanova_ one of theh best sci-fi concepts
1202346883 M * Bertl exactly my opinion, glad that somebody has good taste *G*
1202347127 M * jazzanova_ ok, so I am ready for the rsync command
1202347148 J * Infinito ~argos@200-140-154-131.gnace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br
1202347326 M * jazzanova_ Bertl: so I called my new server dagny, and my old one was rearden. does that tell you anything ?
1202347371 M * Bertl Metal and Taggart?
1202347504 M * Bertl I assume Atlas Shrugged ...
1202347511 M * jazzanova_ :)
1202347516 M * jazzanova_ alright!!
1202347547 M * Bertl but I googled it, haven't heard of it before
1202347600 M * Bertl but it sounds interesting, have to add it to my to-read list
1202348084 Q * Infinito Remote host closed the connection
1202348460 J * Infinito argos@200-140-154-131.gnace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br
1202348489 Q * Infinito 
1202348513 M * zbyniu i'm going to bed now, Bertl if you write correction i'll test it willingly
1202348797 J * Infinito argos@200-140-154-131.gnace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br
1202349156 M * Bertl zbyniu: okay, sleep well!
1202351438 J * puck ~puck@leibniz.catalyst.net.nz
1202351972 M * Bertl welcome puck!
1202352670 Q * Infinito Quit: Quitte
1202355270 Q * ritter Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1202355538 J * ritter ~ritter@swt32.informatik.uni-mannheim.de
1202358699 J * aj_ ~aj@e180212063.adsl.alicedsl.de
1202359066 Q * aj__ Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1202360018 Q * matthew_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1202360277 M * Supaplex sup Bertl 
1202360306 M * Bertl not much, almost off to bed now ...
1202360383 M * Supaplex Bertl: did you get a chance to see http://www.freeside.biz/mediawiki/index.php/User:Supaplex/my_vserver_install_notes ?
1202360441 M * Bertl yes, but I didn't understand the purpose
1202360508 M * Supaplex I'm going to run freeside+guests to demo how it can run. each guess will be a different box you'd have installed on the network. radius, dns, sql, public www, intranet, signup etc
1202360520 M * Supaplex s/guess/guest/
1202360997 J * mark__ ~mark@HERCULES.sentiensystems.net
1202361002 N * mark__ Skram
1202364003 Q * jescheng Remote host closed the connection
1202364021 J * jescheng ~jescheng@proxy-sjc-2.cisco.com
1202364226 J * ridgey ridgey@dhcp.matilda.net.au
1202364257 M * ridgey hi guys, how is everyone?
1202364267 M * ridgey I was wondering if I could ask a vserver question ?
1202364285 A * Bertl checks the channel name ...
1202364309 M * ridgey just being polite.....
1202364326 M * ridgey im trying to upgrade from Centos3 to Centos4 within a vserver
1202364355 M * ridgey i have the old 2.0 version ( legacy ) and also a new install base running the latest 2.6.22 kernel and util-vserver
1202364374 M * ridgey when i try and upgrade on either, it gets to filesystem 2.2.1-4
1202364385 M * ridgey and always get stuck with error: unpacking of archive failed on file /proc: cpio: chown
1202364394 M * ridgey and i cant get past it
1202364423 M * Bertl wait, you are updating a guest from inside, yes?
1202364427 M * ridgey any help appreciated
1202364429 M * ridgey correct
1202364452 M * ridgey using yum inside
1202364454 M * Bertl and the upgrade fails on chowning /proc, which is not too unexpected :)
1202364464 M * ridgey theres a better way ?
1202364616 M * Bertl well, do you have access to the host?
1202364742 M * ridgey i also tried from the vserver base using
1202364743 M * ridgey vyum tarka -- install -y filesystem
1202364745 M * ridgey same
1202364750 M * ridgey yuppo have access to everything
1202364781 M * Bertl okay, simply remove the /proc mount from the host
1202364802 M * Bertl assuming that the 'upgrade' doesn't choke on that, you should be fine
1202364836 M * Bertl if it does, you need to work around this updater bug by using chroot or adding capabilities to the guest
1202365002 M * daniel_hozac or setting %_netsharedpath to /proc
1202365117 M * ridgey ok trying that now
1202365120 M * ridgey tx
1202365317 M * ridgey champion the leave out mount /proc
1202365320 M * ridgey worked
1202365912 J * balbir ~balbir@59.145.136.1
1202366086 M * ridgey can i trouble you for another question please
1202366095 M * ridgey since upgrading to latest version
1202366097 M * ridgey Starting PostgreSQL - Red Hat Edition service: pidof: can't read sid for pid 1
1202366104 M * ridgey i get this when pgsql boots
1202366164 M * Bertl why does postgres try to read the session id for init?
1202366200 M * ridgey no idea... all i did was upgrade from 2.0 util-vserver kernel 2.6.12 to latest kernel 2.6.22 and this started
1202366220 M * Bertl the only way you can work around that is to start a guest init (i.e. switch from sysv to plain init style), but I'd say that is a postgresql (with your specific distro)
1202366242 M * Bertl *postgresql bug
1202366294 M * ridgey thats ok, about to upgrade to 8.1 pgsql so will worry about that if after the upgrade
1202366418 M * ridgey oh one last one, kernel.shmmin, whats a good setting to have this set to for running pgsql ?
1202366980 J * Slydder ~chuck@194.59.17.53
1202367082 M * Slydder morning all
1202367157 M * Bertl okay, off to bed now .. have a good one everyone!
1202367163 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ
1202367221 M * ridgey thanks bert
1202367423 J * matthew_ ~matthew@81.168.74.31
1202369074 J * _bjh_ ~bjh@84.112.154.154
1202369197 J * JonB ~NoSuchUse@kg0-128.kollegiegaarden.dk
1202369680 Q * JonB Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1202369693 J * JonB ~NoSuchUse@kg1-68.kollegiegaarden.dk
1202370932 Q * JonB Quit: This computer has gone to sleep
1202371381 J * chigital ~chigital@p5B0C3D08.dip.t-dialin.net
1202371765 J * WDTY ~root@82-171-214-117.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl
1202371805 N * enkahel__ enkahel_
1202372060 J * dna ~dna@186-234-dsl.kielnet.net
1202372370 J * gebura ~gebura@77.192.186.197
1202372654 Q * arekm Quit: leaving
1202372695 Q * chigital Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1202372849 M * gebura hi
1202373022 Q * aj_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1202373371 J * CyberMonk hacker@Ariel.Atlantica.US.TO
1202373449 Q * CyberMonk 
1202373466 J * CyberMonk hacker@Chatter.Of.The.United.States.Of.America.Name
1202373964 N * DoberMann[ZZZzzz] DoberMann
1202374727 J * jsambrook ~jsambrook@anchor-internet-1-if0.router.demon.net
1202375017 J * otaku42 ~otaku42@torvalds.h4ckr.net
1202375027 M * otaku42 moin
1202375927 Q * hparker Quit: g'nite
1202376183 M * Slydder moin
1202376600 J * JonB ~NoSuchUse@kg1-68.kollegiegaarden.dk
1202377686 Q * JonB Quit: This computer has gone to sleep
1202377757 Q * esa Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1202377882 J * chigital ~chigital@91.90.144.102
1202378131 Q * dddh Quit: Leaving
1202379382 M * Slydder can anyone here explain to me how the "vserver templates" work in openvcp? openvcp.org is down and I cannot seem to find any info on it elsewhere.
1202379831 M * meebey was someone success to make NFS mounts inside a vserver?
1202379835 M * meebey +ful
1202379852 M * meebey or should I mount it on the host and disable namespaces?
1202379943 M * Slydder meebey: never tried myself.
1202379959 M * Slydder am currently working on getting a functional openvcp install
1202380000 M * daniel_hozac meebey: should work fine.
1202380151 J * JonB ~NoSuchUse@kg1-68.kollegiegaarden.dk
1202380697 J * esa bip@ip-87-238-2-45.static.adsl.cheapnet.it
1202380702 M * Slydder what happened to the openvcp project? is it gone with the wind or what?
1202381243 M * Slydder hmmmm. openvcp is having probs. the main server 88.198.176.199 shows as alive with mail, web, ftp and irc open but no reaction except for on ftp
1202381256 M * Slydder ssh is also there
1202381493 Q * JonB Quit: This computer has gone to sleep
1202384481 J * JonB ~NoSuchUse@kg1-68.kollegiegaarden.dk
1202384521 Q * _gh_ Read error: Operation timed out
1202384592 J * pflanze ~chris@vslab-dhcp-18.inf.ethz.ch
1202385315 J * lilalinux ~plasma@80.69.41.3
1202386339 Q * lilalinux Remote host closed the connection
1202386405 Q * giovanni Quit: Konversation terminated!
1202386657 J * click_ click@ti511110a080-3940.bb.online.no
1202386774 Q * click Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1202387110 Q * harry Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1202387369 J * harry ~harry@d54C363EF.access.telenet.be
1202387444 Q * FireEgl Read error: No route to host
1202388054 Q * harry Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1202388316 J * harry ~harry@d54C363EF.access.telenet.be
1202388860 M * awk hello please can somebody tell me what prefix should I use for my vserver if my mask is 255.255.255.128
1202388945 M * awk 25 ?
1202389114 M * TrueBrain http://jodies.de/ipcalc
1202389115 M * TrueBrain :)
1202389209 J * camgirl29 ~camgirl29@d033.dhcp212-198-248.noos.fr
1202389289 M * ard6 count the number of 1s :-).  8 16 24 32 bits...
1202389295 M * ard6 so in your case 24+1
1202389307 M * awk so I was right.. thanks
1202389310 Q * camgirl29 
1202389315 M * awk been awhile since ive done any networking essentials :P
1202389316 M * ard6 no need for calculators unless you are scripting :-)
1202389337 M * TrueBrain that website shows how things are calculated :)
1202389344 M * ard6 ah ok :-)
1202389349 M * awk cheat sheat :P
1202389354 M * awk sheet
1202389365 A * ard6 uses netmask in scripts to calculate the optimal routing table
1202389373 M * TrueBrain (so basicly it tells you that 255.255.255.128 are 25 1's in a row ;))
1202389423 A * ard6 nervous
1202389431 M * ard6 big change tonight :-(
1202389440 M * ard6 or maybe :-)
1202389449 M * ard6 switching a very important server to vserver
1202389472 M * awk hehe good luck
1202389479 M * awk ive moved the whole of honda onto a vserver setup
1202389481 M * awk works perfectly
1202389494 M * TrueBrain vserver in general works perfectly :)
1202389499 M * awk only few down falls where some static routes... but everything worked nicely
1202389506 M * awk fuck
1202389508 M * awk with some...
1202389509 M * ard6 ah
1202389515 A * ard6 never has issues with routing :-)
1202389530 M * ard6 more with undocumented dataflows
1202389547 M * awk heh, I hope you writing the documentation for everyone else :)
1202389570 M * ard6 well, that's what I was doing last 2 weeks :-(
1202389584 M * ard6 twiki with directedgraph plugin rules
1202389584 M * awk well then i'm happy with you, share and share alike :)
1202389596 M * ard6 ah
1202389604 M * ard6 you mean linux-vserver wiki :-)
1202389609 M * awk naaaa
1202389612 M * awk just public knowldge
1202389624 M * awk knowledge  
1202389630 M * ard6 wiki.kwaak.net/VserverStuff and then vserver tables
1202389649 M * ard6 I am using a better version of that script right now
1202389672 M * ard6 and it really helps I must say :-)
1202389697 M * TrueBrain kwaak.net, lol :)
1202389721 M * TrueBrain nice 404 page btw :)
1202389824 M * ard6 eh?
1202389825 M * ard6 ah!
1202389839 M * ard6 wiki.kwaak.net/twiki/
1202389875 M * ard6 a vserver hidden behind a pound
1202390063 M * TrueBrain Eweka? :)
1202390327 Q * balbir Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1202390679 J * natacha29 ~natacha29@d033.dhcp212-198-248.noos.fr
1202390726 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl
1202390731 M * Bertl morning folks!
1202390743 M * TrueBrain morning to you too
1202390777 J * _gh_ ~gerrit@yktgi01e0-s5.watson.ibm.com
1202390804 Q * natacha29 
1202390825 M * Slydder can anyone here explain to me how the "vserver templates" work in openvcp? openvcp.org is down and I cannot seem to find any info on it elsewhere.
1202390976 M * Bertl well, no idea, but I'd assume they get installed with util-vserver?
1202391017 M * ard6 how does truebrain now that?
1202391034 M * ard6 ah... you must be dutch :-)
1202391040 M * Slydder yeah. i was thinking the same but I see nowhere where I can tell openvcp which images/uri to use and such.
1202391087 M * TrueBrain ard6: some IP ranges are melted in my head
1202391090 M * TrueBrain if I read them, I know :)
1202391115 M * TrueBrain but yes, I am Dutch :)
1202391330 M * Slydder anyone happen to know what's going on with openvcp.org?
1202391391 M * Bertl maybe the server is down, maybe it is in asia :)
1202391418 J * ema ~ema@rtfm.galliera.it
1202391428 M * Slydder the server is up and running. did a traceroute and then a nmap scan and all is there. just no response at all except from ftp and mail.
1202391542 Q * click_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1202391563 M * TrueBrain so, email them! :)
1202391568 M * Slydder did
1202391577 M * Slydder sometime this morning
1202391600 M * Slydder just thought that MAYBEEEEEE somebody here knew what was going on.
1202391731 M * Bertl maybe somebody knows .. we'll see
1202391757 J * liona29 ~liona29@d033.dhcp212-198-248.noos.fr
1202391865 Q * liona29 
1202391981 J * lilalinux ~plasma@80.69.41.3
1202392144 M * Slydder just found a rather annoying bug in gpass where you lose all passwords entered after the last save if the system shutsdown/resets while the application is in it's locked state. now I have to go and reinstall tripwire on a system because I no longer have the passwords. lol
1202392364 Q * esa Remote host closed the connection
1202392394 M * meebey lsmod: QM_MODULES: Function not implemented
1202392427 M * meebey I added SYS_MODULE to /etc/vservers/myvserver/bcapabilities, but I still get that
1202392445 M * meebey how can I check which caps are activated?
1202392491 M * meebey oh wait, wasn't that a linux 2.4 tools vs 2.6 thing?
1202392503 A * meebey partly remembers there was something
1202392531 M * meebey ii  modutils                                          2.4.27.0-6                               Linux module utilities
1202392535 M * meebey eh
1202392709 Q * lilalinux Remote host closed the connection
1202392744 M * meebey with module-init-tools it works now, nevermind
1202392759 A * meebey removes modutils from his debian-master-image
1202392769 M * enkahel_ back
1202392846 J * esa bip@ip-87-238-2-45.static.adsl.cheapnet.it
1202392858 M * enkahel_ testme.sh revels lots of segmentation fault
1202392889 M * enkahel_ how can I investigate this properly ? (and submit anything of value, if any?)
1202392912 M * daniel_hozac don't use Ubuntu's dietlibc.
1202393056 M * enkahel_ hehe, so using Ubuntu is a known issue 
1202393062 M * enkahel_ :>
1202393105 Q * JonB Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1202393120 J * ftx ~ftx@dslb-084-060-227-102.pools.arcor-ip.net
1202393249 M * Bertl enkahel_: you can grab the debian packages and simply use them, was reported working
1202393325 M * enkahel_ hmmm, ok, I'll look into it
1202393357 M * enkahel_ I was afraid it was my patched kernel that was mis-compiled
1202393371 Q * ||Cobra|| Remote host closed the connection
1202393426 J * ||Cobra|| ~cob@pc-csa01.science.uva.nl
1202394040 J * ftx_ ~ftx@dslb-084-060-232-186.pools.arcor-ip.net
1202394403 J * ftx__ ~ftx@dslb-084-060-217-060.pools.arcor-ip.net
1202394475 Q * ftx Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1202394475 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: I think the return -EPERM; for LOOPBACK(fl->fl4_dst) needs an additional flag (in 2.3.x) to allow setups where you actually want to assign a 127.x.x.x address to the guest (despite the potential issues)
1202394511 J * dddh ~dddh@dddh.broker.freenet6.net
1202394521 M * Bertl (zbyniu was hitting that yesterday)
1202394525 M * Bertl welcome dddh!
1202394533 M * dddh hello Bertl ;)
1202394596 M * daniel_hozac Bertl: yeah, i saw.
1202394603 M * daniel_hozac Bertl: makes sense to me.
1202394617 M * Bertl any ideas for a good name?
1202394637 M * Bertl LBACK_ALLOW, LBACK_PERM ?
1202394752 M * daniel_hozac ALLOW makes sense to me.
1202394836 Q * ftx_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1202394848 J * dowdle ~dowdle@scott.coe.montana.edu
1202394965 J * JonB hidden-use@192.38.9.151
1202395015 J * lidi20 ~lidi20@d033.dhcp212-198-248.noos.fr
1202395122 Q * lidi20 
1202395163 M * Slydder strange. getting the following error while trying to restart a vserver: chroot-sh: open("/etc/mtab"): No such file or directory
1202395163 M * Slydder find: var: No such file or directory
1202395163 M * Slydder fakerunlevel: open("/var/run/utmp"): No such file or directory
1202395286 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Experimental/delta-lback-feat02.diff ?
1202395359 M * Bertl zbyniu: could you give http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Experimental/delta-lback-feat02.diff a try please? (you have to set the new flag with ^10, or add support manually)
1202395537 M * zbyniu Bertl: ok, thnx, work in progress
1202395613 J * jenny20 ~jenny20@d033.dhcp212-198-248.noos.fr
1202395715 M * daniel_hozac Bertl: looks good.
1202395744 Q * jenny20 
1202395930 Q * ruskie Write error: connection closed
1202395930 Q * nebuchadnezzar Remote host closed the connection
1202395930 J * nebuchadnezzar ~nebu@zion.asgardr.info
1202396047 J * ruskie ruskie@goatse.co.uk
1202396206 J * ftx_ ~ftx@dslb-084-060-238-100.pools.arcor-ip.net
1202396608 Q * WDTY Remote host closed the connection
1202396610 J * WDTY ~root@82-171-214-117.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl
1202396622 N * BobR_oO BobR
1202396636 Q * ftx__ Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1202397350 N * Bertl Bertl_oO
1202397356 M * Bertl_oO okay, off for now .. bbl
1202398196 J * Julius ~julius@p57B27A2E.dip.t-dialin.net
1202398508 Q * _bjh_ Quit: leaving
1202398972 J * ja223 ~julian@nat.basefarm.se
1202399110 M * ja223 quick question, is guest networking done through the host using iptables or can a host have it's own ip address?
1202399171 Q * jsambrook Quit: Leaving.
1202399189 M * daniel_hozac all the networking happens on the host, guests are merely limited to a subset of the IP addresses.
1202399229 M * ja223 is this the only way to set up networking then? http://wiki.linux-vserver.org/Networking_vserver_guests
1202399256 M * daniel_hozac the only way? certainly not. i give my guests "public" addresses.
1202399312 M * ja223 ok I should be able to setup the guest with ifconfig etc? is there a howto somewhere?
1202399318 M * daniel_hozac hmm?
1202399331 M * daniel_hozac you simply specify the addresses when you build it, using --interface.
1202399342 M * daniel_hozac or, alternatively, set up the configuration after the build manually.
1202399359 M * ja223 I think I'm missing a step somewhere as I did that and I do't have a network
1202399371 M * daniel_hozac did you give the guest a private address?
1202399417 M * ja223 it has a "real" address
1202399436 M * ja223 not a 10 or 192. one I mean
1202399446 M * daniel_hozac so that should be enough.
1202399479 M * ja223 I think there is something wrong when it tries to start teh network up, I get errors 
1202399490 M * ja223 like this:
1202399498 M * ja223 error: unknown error 1 setting key 'kernel.sem'
1202399508 M * ja223 error: unknown error 1 setting key 'net.ipv4.ip_local_port_range'
1202399518 M * ja223 network-functions: line 188: /proc/sys/kernel/hotplug: Operation not permitted
1202399580 M * daniel_hozac your guest shouldn't try to bring up networking.
1202399590 M * daniel_hozac anything hardware related should be done on the host, including that.
1202399605 Q * WDTY Remote host closed the connection
1202399610 M * ja223 ah ok, 
1202399684 J * ftx__ ~ftx@dslb-084-062-255-102.pools.arcor-ip.net
1202399694 M * ja223 not sure what I did, but my ip address is available now so I guess it works
1202399728 Q * Slydder Quit: Leaving.
1202399745 J * lola22 ~lola22@d033.dhcp212-198-248.noos.fr
1202399759 M * ja223 thanks for your help daniel
1202399767 M * daniel_hozac you're welcome!
1202399769 J * balbir ~balbir@122.167.199.244
1202399811 J * jazzanova ~boris@66.109.22.212
1202399811 M * ja223 one more thing, should sshd be started in the guest
1202399812 M * jazzanova hi
1202399822 M * daniel_hozac if you want to access the guest using ssh.
1202399846 M * jazzanova i have rsynced my vserver guest from my old server, and I am trying to start it.
1202399848 Q * lola22 
1202399854 M * daniel_hozac just make sure to limit the host's sshd to the host's IP addresses first.
1202399887 M * jazzanova i get error like this: chroot-sh: open("/etc/mtab"): No such file or directory
1202399905 M * ja223 cool it works as advertised.
1202399997 M * daniel_hozac jazzanova: and, does /etc/mtab exist in the guest?
1202400022 J * WDTY ~root@82-171-214-117.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl
1202400048 M * jazzanova ah shit, you are right
1202400115 Q * ftx_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1202401140 J * Flinx_ ~chatzilla@86.57.175.203
1202401209 M * Flinx_ Hi!I did MoreUbuntu with vserver,but only wideo working fine by now.
1202401211 M * Flinx_ Have problems with keyboard and mouse...
1202401251 M * Flinx_ When 1 guest os is running kb and mouse is ok, but when i running second guest both mouses not working and 1 keyboard not working too.
1202401252 M * Flinx_ Here i posted what i have in xorg.conf of 1-st and 2-nd guests ( http://paste.linux-vserver.org/11731 ). Maybe somebody did MoreUbuntu before and can help me?
1202401361 J * Source ~n1ce@host142.201-252-155.telecom.net.ar
1202401373 Q * Source 
1202401418 M * JonB Flinx_: does all those /dev entries exist?
1202401549 M * Flinx_ JonB: yes. but i removed unwanted devices from guest11 and guest13 (i have 2 guests running guest11 and guest13)
1202401579 M * JonB okay
1202401590 M * JonB well, it's been years since i'm played with X11
1202401631 M * Flinx_ i have this ( http://paste.linux-vserver.org/11732 ) in /proc/bus/input/devices
1202401655 M * Flinx_ x servers returns no errors
1202401663 M * Flinx_ very weird
1202401828 Q * ja223 Quit: Leaving
1202401830 M * Flinx_ JonB: Maybe i can understand what is happening using strace? How can running 2-nd guest cause than both mouses not working. (when 1 guest is running mouses are ok)
1202401871 Q * gebura Remote host closed the connection
1202401915 M * JonB Flinx_: are they running at the same time?
1202401935 M * Flinx_ JonB: yes
1202402038 M * JonB maybe thats why
1202402084 J * ftx_ ~ftx@dslb-084-062-253-074.pools.arcor-ip.net
1202402134 J * shuri ~shuri@64.235.209.226
1202402145 M * shuri hi there
1202402169 M * shuri i got a quick question about vserver + quota
1202402209 M * shuri if i understand quota can only be use on non-shared partition right?
1202402249 M * JonB non-shared? but that wont make any sense because a partition for JUST 1 guest could be limited to the needed size
1202402312 Q * chigital Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1202402407 M * shuri so i can use one big partition
1202402415 M * shuri with 5 vserver for example
1202402424 J * larsivi ~larsivi@144.84-48-50.nextgentel.com
1202402485 M * shuri JonB acording to wiki
1202402488 M * shuri Is there a way to implement "user/group quota" per VServer?
1202402488 M * shuri A: Yes, but not on a shared partition for now. You need to put the guest on a separate partition, setup a vroot device (to make the quota access secure), copy that into the guest, and adjust the mtab line inside the guest.
1202402493 M * JonB shuri: thats what i do, but i dont use quota
1202402519 Q * ftx__ Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1202402551 M * Flinx_ Can somebody help me with configuring keyboards/mouses on vserver (i doing something like MoreUbuntu but with Debian. Video already configured.). Not for free of course.
1202402597 M * Flinx_ I have 2 guest os running on vserver
1202402775 M * Flinx_ If somebody can help me, please email me sdv.brest@gmail.com .
1202403035 M * shuri so anybody can confirme about quota and shared partition
1202403095 J * hparker ~hparker@linux.homershut.net
1202403404 Q * JonB Quit: This computer has gone to sleep
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1202403841 J * bonbons ~bonbons@2001:960:7ab:0:2c0:9fff:fe2d:39d
1202403842 M * zbyniu Bertl_oO, daniel_hozac: delta-lback-feat02.diff works perfect :) as always your work, thanks!
1202404140 J * enkahel__ ~enkahel@ACaen-257-1-92-211.w86-220.abo.wanadoo.fr
1202404152 Q * Flinx_ Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.80 [Firefox 2.0.0.11/2007112718]
1202404400 M * jazzanova when I do shutdown of my vserver I get this error: cat: /proc/cmdline: No such file or directory
1202404569 Q * enkahel_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1202404743 N * BobR BobR_oO
1202405066 Q * shuri Quit: Leaving
1202405079 J * natacha29 ~natacha29@d033.dhcp212-198-248.noos.fr
1202405179 J * giovanni_ ~giovanni@143.225.229.142
1202405197 Q * _gh_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1202405206 Q * natacha29 
1202405386 J * ftx__ ~ftx@dslb-084-062-251-249.pools.arcor-ip.net
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1202405975 J * balbir ~balbir@122.167.199.244
1202406223 J * lilalinux ~plasma@80.69.41.3
1202406299 J * mnemoc ~amery@kilo105.server4you.de
1202406342 J * morfoh ~morfoh@kilo105.server4you.de
1202406715 J * ftx_ ~ftx@dslb-084-062-254-201.pools.arcor-ip.net
1202406835 Q * lilalinux Remote host closed the connection
1202406921 J * _gh_ ~gerrit@yktgi01e0-s5.watson.ibm.com
1202406980 M * ard6 root@sorry:/etc/init.d# grep cmdline *
1202407103 J * JonB ~NoSuchUse@90.184.8.186
1202407144 Q * JonB 
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1202407167 J * JonB ~NoSuchUse@0405ds1-noe.0.fullrate.dk
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1202407213 J * jescheng ~jescheng@proxy-sjc-2.cisco.com
1202407258 M * pflanze Bertl_oO: if you'd like me to test that qemu image with your kernel (that you couldn't access recently) and my old bash for that vps thing, ping me, or if I'm gone, send me mail to christian at pflanze dot mine dot nu
1202408023 J * babyfish ~babyfish@64.71.237.93
1202408083 M * babyfish Howdy! I hope you all are having an enjoyable morning/day/evening!
1202408112 Q * esa Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1202408232 M * babyfish Wondering if Bertl is around :)
1202408314 M * daniel_hozac his nick would suggest no.
1202408353 M * babyfish Oh hey Daniel! Thanks - totally a noob thing to ask
1202408412 M * babyfish I've actually talked to you a while ago about multicast patch to 2.2 releases of vserver
1202408419 M * babyfish You recommended running it by Bertl
1202408432 M * babyfish Maybe it makes sense to do this by email :)
1202408556 P * babyfish 
1202408824 N * DoberMann DoberMann[PullA]
1202410596 J * click click@ti511110a080-0349.bb.online.no
1202410768 Q * puck Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1202410850 J * puck ~puck@leibniz.catalyst.net.nz
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1202411370 J * shuri ~shuri@64.235.209.226
1202412181 J * southtel ~southtel@68-114-17-226.dhcp.gwnt.ga.charter.com
1202412215 M * southtel Anyone know if there are any technical reasons why one couldn't run vmware and vserver on the same host?
1202412229 M * daniel_hozac there are none.
1202412241 M * southtel Cool. Thanks.
1202412253 M * southtel Has anyone out there done it?
1202412267 M * daniel_hozac don't know about vmware, but i know qemu works.
1202412337 Q * mnemoc Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1202412408 N * Bertl_oO Bertl
1202412497 M * Bertl pflanze: yes, I got access yesterday again, so I can upload it now
1202412557 Q * duckx Remote host closed the connection
1202412601 M * pflanze Bertl: fine. (Tell me if you'd like me to open a listening netcat for receiving it)
1202412601 Q * southtel Quit: using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.12
1202412627 M * Bertl pflanze: nah, I simply upload it on vserver.13thfloor.at, what kernel was it we wanted to test?
1202412646 M * pflanze well, I'm running 2.6.22.16-vs2.2.0.6
1202412659 M * Bertl okay, so I'll take that then :)
1202412681 M * pflanze I think the idea was to create a tar with the files to reproduce it so you can reproduce it as well.
1202412694 M * Bertl sounds like a plan!
1202412790 J * duckx ~Duck@tox.dyndns.org
1202412889 J * mnemoc ~amery@kilo105.server4you.de
1202412900 M * Bertl wb duckx! mnemoc!
1202412909 M * Bertl pflanze: http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Stuff/QEMU/bzImage-2.6.22.16-vs2.2.0.6
1202413085 Q * duckx Remote host closed the connection
1202413591 M * shuri hi bertl
1202413595 M * shuri ltns
1202413819 J * duckx ~Duck@tox.dyndns.org
1202413871 M * Bertl hey shuri! LTNS indeed! how's going?
1202414019 M * pflanze hm Bertl: qemu opens an X window and shows "Uncompressing Linux... Ok, booting the kernel." and then sits there for now over 5 minutes burning 100% cpu.
1202414026 M * pflanze Is this really *that* slow or something wrong?
1202414101 M * pflanze hm "file" command says "Normal VGA", maybe I should choose the other video driver?
1202414173 M * shuri fine bert fine :)
1202414198 M * shuri bertl can i ask you a little question
1202414259 M * pflanze running gdb /usr/bin/qemu -p 15205 and bt shows only "??" frames.
1202414465 M * Bertl pflanze: the kernel has no video support, run it like this:
1202414468 M * pflanze ah, choosing stdio for serial port gives hints
1202414491 M * pflanze ok needs root= argument ;)
1202414511 M * Bertl qemu -nographic -m 64 -hda TEST_32M_public2.img -kernel bzImage-2.6.22.16-vs2.2.0.6 -append "rw root=/dev/hda1 init=/bin/bash"
1202415007 M * pflanze Bertl: ok, but how do I set the machine up for running vservers?
1202415017 A * pflanze tries exec /sbin/init
1202415042 M * Bertl nah, won't work, you have the tools isntalled, you need another disk with the guest data
1202415054 M * Bertl then you should be able to start them manually
1202415059 M * pflanze hm.
1202415069 M * pflanze do you have an image with test guests?
1202415101 M * Bertl not a public one, but should be simple, see qemu-image
1202415144 M * pflanze btw bash on that machine is already 2.05b
1202415158 M * shuri anyone can asnwer my question about vserver + quota
1202415167 M * pflanze GNU bash, version 2.05.1(1)-release (i586-mandrake-linux-gnu) vs. GNU bash, version 2.05b.0(1)-release (i386-pc-linux-gnu)
1202415176 M * shuri is it possible on a shared partition to have 2 vserver with quota
1202415197 M * daniel_hozac shuri: no.
1202415210 M * Bertl yes, but the quota will also be 'shared' (without per context quota)
1202415226 M * shuri ok so i need 2 partition and 2 vroot
1202415231 M * shuri right?
1202415283 M * daniel_hozac yep.
1202415288 M * shuri thx
1202415296 M * pflanze hm, is per context quota not supported anymore?
1202415323 M * daniel_hozac not on a shared filesystem. hasn't been since 2.6...
1202415415 M * shuri time to setup lvm then
1202415423 M * shuri thank a lot for your answer
1202415484 M * Bertl pflanze: was dropped from development because of lack of interest and the relatively high intrusiveness
1202415484 M * pflanze shuri: you'll miss vunification then, unless you've got lots of RAM.
1202415517 M * shuri vunification &
1202415518 M * shuri ?
1202415529 M * Bertl shuri, pflanze: you can mix and match stuff, i.e. share the system, but account the user stuff
1202415531 M * pflanze Bertl: ah. Kind of sad; wasn't using it either until now, but been planning to do it as soon as I'm getting people on my machine that I'm not trusing so much.
1202415560 M * pflanze hm yeah maybe. also /var
1202415581 M * shuri what is vunification
1202415582 M * daniel_hozac give the people their own guests?
1202415586 M * shuri !google vunification
1202415613 M * pflanze shuri: look up "vhashify"
1202415685 M * pflanze daniel_hozac: hm, are we talking about different things?: I want to limit the disk space one vserver can take up, as a whole, without any interest on the particular user.
1202415694 M * daniel_hozac that's disk limits.
1202415696 M * pflanze ah
1202415705 M * pflanze sorry then. Disk limits is still there?
1202415713 M * daniel_hozac as long as you don't use XFS, yes.
1202415721 M * pflanze OK, fine :)
1202415891 M * shuri so i need a lot of ram to setup lvm + vserver quota?
1202415894 M * shuri i dont understand
1202416038 M * pflanze Bertl: I've got 30 minutes to work on this now. I can copy one of my vserver templates, but not sure my config will do; and vserver-stat shows:
1202416047 M * pflanze WARNING: can not access /proc/uptime. Usually, this is caused by         procfs-security. ..
1202416055 M * pflanze where is that script?
1202416070 M * daniel_hozac /etc/init.d/vprocunhide?
1202416071 M * pflanze I don't remember all the tweaks I did for my servers..
1202416084 M * pflanze /bin/sh: /etc/init.d/vprocunhide: not found
1202416125 M * daniel_hozac which means you either didn't use /etc as the sysconfdir for your utils, or your install is broken.
1202416180 M * pflanze well that's Bertl's image.
1202416332 M * pflanze Maybe I should reinstall the utils.
1202416347 M * daniel_hozac run vserver-info first.
1202416351 M * Bertl it should be there, but it is probably simpler to just unhide everything
1202416373 M * pflanze Bertl: how do i do that?
1202416383 M * shuri pflanze:  i need a lot of ram to setup lvm + vserver quota?
1202416414 M * pflanze shuri: vhashify helps reducing the needed RAM, because program binaries and libraries can be shared then.
1202416428 M * pflanze Over all vservers that are using the same only, of course.
1202416455 M * pflanze shuri: and note that I misinterpreted the statement. 
1202416457 M * Bertl setattr -R --~hide /proc /note that you want to mount proc :)
1202416462 Q * duckx Read error: No route to host
1202416463 J * duckx fred@tox.dyndns.org
1202416517 M * pflanze shuri: I did think that you wanted to put every vserver on a separate partition. This way, you cannot hardlink the binaries/libraries, and thus require every vserver to have it's own copy of those in physical RAM.
1202416572 M * pflanze shuri: for my ~20 vservers that helped reduce about 300MB of physical RAM usage.
1202416756 M * pflanze hm, vserver 0.30.209; outdated anyway.
1202416783 M * pflanze don't you have a more recent qemu image, Bertl?
1202416821 M * pflanze there's also no gcc on this image.
1202416824 M * Bertl again, not a public one, but  I can upload newer tools for this image
1202416836 M * Bertl pflanze: not quite unexpected with 32M
1202416885 M * pflanze yeah, of course, but it seems too much work trying to install newer vserver utils this way. At least I cannot compile them;
1202416900 M * pflanze not sure how easy it is to get networking.
1202416911 M * Bertl that works out of the box
1202416956 M * Bertl just add the qemu commands,  for networking
1202416970 M * Bertl http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Stuff/QEMU/util-vserver-0.30.214_bin.tar.bz2
1202416979 M * Bertl (untar in /)
1202416985 M * daniel_hozac even that isn't required, -net user (i.e. the default) works well.
1202417005 M * Bertl ah, yes, with qemu 9.0+
1202417032 M * pflanze This is qemu 0.8.2-4etch1
1202417057 M * pflanze which qemu commands?
1202417121 Q * ftx_ Remote host closed the connection
1202417154 M * pflanze I've got two theories for why I'm having to find this all out.
1202417199 M * pflanze One is that I'm the first trying to debug vserver, the other that I'm the only who has never used qemu
1202417222 M * pflanze It'd be nice if there were a wiki page for developers
1202417236 M * Bertl hehe, go ahead, create one
1202417424 J * chigital ~chigital@p5B0C65AD.dip.t-dialin.net
1202417436 Q * kiorky_ Remote host closed the connection
1202417491 M * pflanze Are you using Qemu only for testing or also for debugging (using gdb)?
1202417741 J * kiorky ~kiorky@cryptelium.net
1202417986 M * Bertl pflanze: both
1202417993 M * Bertl welcome kiorky!
1202418010 M * Bertl have to leave now, but should be back shortly (1h or so)
1202418018 N * Bertl Bertl_oO
1202418737 M * pflanze Ok, created a wiki page; time has run out, so going to see for another time frame at another time.
1202418777 Q * chigital Remote host closed the connection
1202419198 Q * JonB Quit: This computer has gone to sleep
1202419342 J * fatgoose ~samuel@76-10-149-199.dsl.teksavvy.com
1202419473 N * DoberMann[PullA] DoberMann
1202419637 Q * bonbons Quit: Leaving
1202420112 J * Tuxbubling ~tuxbublin@sat78-6-88-160-130-34.fbx.proxad.net
1202420117 M * Tuxbubling hello there
1202420153 M * Tuxbubling vyum guest -- install stuff => mount: mount point /.rpmdb does not exist << where is /.rpmdb supposed to be mounted?
1202420195 M * daniel_hozac mkdir /.rpmdb
1202420205 M * Tuxbubling it exists but is empty
1202420214 M * Tuxbubling well where on the host??
1202420220 M * daniel_hozac no, the guest.
1202420237 M * Tuxbubling ok it's on the guest
1202420291 M * Tuxbubling and /var/lib/rpm => /.rpmdb
1202420336 M * Tuxbubling i migratated the host from gentoo to fedora 8
1202420355 M * Tuxbubling and util-vserver are badly packaged without vyum script
1202420357 M * kiorky you must have kept gentoo ;)
1202420365 M * Tuxbubling kiorky: not the debate ;)
1202420373 M * daniel_hozac huh?
1202420395 M * Tuxbubling yeah fedora util-vserver doesn't contains vyum
1202420398 M * daniel_hozac $ rpm -qf /usr/sbin/vyum
1202420398 M * daniel_hozac util-vserver-build-0.30.215-0.pre2667.fc7
1202420403 Q * pflanze Quit: g'night
1202420405 M * daniel_hozac sure does...
1202420411 M * Tuxbubling mmmh
1202420437 N * DoberMann DoberMann[ZZZzzz]
1202420457 M * Tuxbubling lol maybe cause i don't have this package :p
1202420506 J * chigital ~chigital@p5B0C5523.dip.t-dialin.net
1202420512 M * Tuxbubling still doesn't help
1202420530 M * Tuxbubling mount: mount point /.rpmdb does not exist
1202420538 M * Tuxbubling what should be mounted here?
1202420551 J * JonB ~NoSuchUse@kg0-128.kollegiegaarden.dk
1202420619 M * daniel_hozac i guess you need it on the host too.
1202420654 M * Tuxbubling good spot
1202420820 M * Tuxbubling looks like it didn't really like somethin
1202420954 M * Tuxbubling it just exists direclty before fetching any package list
1202421084 M * Tuxbubling maybe i could bind mount .pkg/guest/rpm/state in guest/var/lib/rpm
1202421486 M * Tuxbubling sh***** doesn't give good results :/
1202421736 M * Tuxbubling ok let's fix that stuff :p
1202421737 Q * Julius Remote host closed the connection
1202421967 M * Tuxbubling daniel_hozac: could you point me to the fc8 conf stuf on svn ??
1202422858 Q * larsivi Quit: Konversation terminated!
1202423682 J * derjohn_mobil ~aj@p5B23E9EE.dip.t-dialin.net
1202423725 M * TrueBrain and ard6, how is it going? :)
1202423804 Q * _gh_ Read error: Operation timed out
1202423870 M * Tuxbubling where do i find the fedora 8 build template?
1202424391 Q * JonB Quit: This computer has gone to sleep
1202424795 N * Bertl_oO Bertl
1202424804 M * Bertl back now ..
1202425286 J * dna_ ~dna@186-234-dsl.kielnet.net
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