1201219203 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl 1201219208 M * Bertl back now .. 1201219316 Q * wr Quit: Leaving 1201219406 Q * jescheng Remote host closed the connection 1201219407 M * matti Bertl: :))) 1201219425 J * jescheng ~jescheng@proxy-sjc-2.cisco.com 1201219603 M * Bertl hey matti! how's going? 1201219752 M * matti Fine, yourself? 1201219753 M * matti ;d 1201219771 M * Bertl everything fine so far .. 1201219839 M * matti :) 1201219848 M * matti I am glad to hear that! 1201220094 Q * yarihm Quit: Leaving 1201220099 Q * ViRUS Quit: Leaving 1201220379 J * chigital ~chigital@p5B0C4C0F.dip.t-dialin.net 1201220419 M * chigital hi anybody here 1201220458 M * chigital if i start a vserver i get the error "vc_ctx_create(): Cannot allocate memory" 1201220887 Q * dowdle Remote host closed the connection 1201221453 Q * chigital Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1201221509 Q * hparker Quit: Quit 1201221564 Q * ruskie Server closed connection 1201221751 J * ruskie ruskie@ruskie.user.oftc.net 1201221998 J * hparker ~hparker@24.225.5.125 1201224189 Q * balbir Read error: Operation timed out 1201226695 J * Infinito ~argos@200-101-125-80.gnace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br 1201226729 Q * snooze Server closed connection 1201226733 J * snooze ~o@1-1-4-40a.gkp.gbg.bostream.se 1201228024 Q * hparker Remote host closed the connection 1201228515 J * daccman ~ken@bas1-barrie18-1242466952.dsl.bell.ca 1201228526 M * daccman hello all 1201228538 M * Bertl wb daccman! 1201228546 M * daccman thanks bertl 1201228561 M * daccman I got most of my issues sorted out 1201228568 M * Bertl great! 1201228578 M * daccman but still have something I can't figure out 1201228611 M * daccman I have my vserver running but it won't connect to internet 1201228640 M * Bertl private ip for the guest? 1201228684 M * daccman when i ifconfig it tells me that the interface it uses is eth0:web0 192.168.1.1 on subnet 255.255.255.0 1201228717 M * Bertl okay, on the host, try 'ping -c 1 -I 192.168.1.1 www.google.com' 1201228767 M * daccman ok 1201228870 M * daccman ok that seemed to come back all good 1201228879 M * daccman no lost packets 1201228891 M * Bertl now try the same from inside the guest 1201228899 M * daccman same command 1201228904 M * Bertl yep 1201228911 M * daccman ok one sec 1201228966 M * daccman ok that seemed to work with no paket loss 1201228974 M * daccman does that mean it is working 1201228983 M * Bertl it looks like to me 1201229012 M * Bertl where do you see a problem with 'connecting to the internet'? 1201229101 M * daccman I tried the same command for www.brainbench.com but I get lost packets 1201229119 M * daccman is there another way to check to see if it is working 1201229123 M * Bertl so maybe that one is not answering properly? 1201229194 M * daccman ok one sec I will try a different one 1201229341 M * daccman ok I tried yahoo and it came back ok as well so I should be able to use yum to install packages now 1201229359 M * Bertl if it is configured properly, yes 1201229437 M * daccman seems to be working now I can use yum to install packages. 1201229443 M * Bertl excellent! 1201229459 M * daccman thanks I think i had it but was not sure if it was all right 1201229508 M * Bertl you're welcome! 1201229513 M * daccman my other question is if I am running a web service on my host machine can I run one on a guest at the same time and still access it from the net 1201229528 M * daccman my host web server is port 80 1201229537 M * Bertl yes, if you do one of the following things: 1201229546 M * Bertl - use a different port for the guest 1201229549 M * daccman would I have to use a different port 1201229558 M * daccman I was going to say that 1201229559 M * daccman lol 1201229561 M * Bertl - forward requests on the host (vhosts) 1201229673 M * daccman ok so lets say that my host is on 72.55.xx.xx and my vserver is 192.168.1.1 and I wanted to forwad port 8080 to 192.168.1.1:8080 what would that look like 1201229725 J * sezuan_ ~sezuan@port-92-194-77-19.dynamic.qsc.de 1201229752 M * daccman iptables -t nat -D PREROUTING -d 72.55.xx.xx -i eth0 -p tcp -m tcp --dport 8080 -j DNAT --to-destination 192.168.1.1:8080 1201229761 M * daccman would that be right? 1201229762 M * Bertl iptables -t NAT -A PREROUTING -d 72.55.xx.xx -p tcp --dport 8080 -j DNAT --to 192.168.1.1:8080 1201229779 M * Bertl yep, something like that 1201229799 M * Bertl note that you can still use port 80 on 192.168.1.1 if you keep the host apache from binding that ip 1201229825 M * daccman ok not sure what you mean 1201229861 M * Bertl you can run an unmodified apache inside the guest (binding to port 80) if you make sure that the apache on the host doesn't bind port 80 for the guest ip 1201229950 M * daccman so if my apache is binded to listen 72.55.xx.xx:80 that won't work? 1201229957 M * daccman on the host 1201229970 M * Bertl that would work, but *:80 won't 1201229990 M * Bertl (if you are running the guest on port 80, that is) 1201230004 M * Bertl the DNAT rule would then be: 1201230009 M * Bertl iptables -t NAT -A PREROUTING -d 72.55.xx.xx -p tcp --dport 8080 -j DNAT --to 192.168.1.1:80 1201230020 M * daccman no I believe my apache on my host binds to the public ip 1201230029 M * Bertl (note the 8080 for the public ip, but 80 for the guest) 1201230064 M * daccman yep 1201230085 Q * sezuan Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1201230092 M * daccman I should find out for sure if that is the config for apache 1201230108 M * daccman brb will check 1201230335 M * daccman yep apache listen 72.55.xx.xx:80 and for 72.55.xx.xx:443 1201230378 M * Bertl then the apache on the guest should be able to run without modification 1201230399 M * Bertl you just need to map port 8080 to 192.168.1.1:80 (as in the example above) 1201230422 M * daccman so I would map it then by using that command 1201230441 M * daccman iptables -t NAT -A PREROUTING -d 72.55.xx.xx -p tcp --dport 8080 -j DNAT --to 192.168.1.1:80 1201230451 M * Bertl yep 1201230480 M * daccman ok will do that and see what happens 1201230488 M * daccman thanks for the help 1201230498 M * Bertl again, you're welcome! 1201230500 M * daccman if it don't work I am sure I will be back 1201230508 M * Bertl np :) 1201230511 M * daccman lol :) 1201230534 M * Bertl well, actually I hope you will be back if it works too :) 1201230571 M * daccman I will let you know for sure because if it is then I will have more indepth questions about vserver 1201230711 Q * fs Server closed connection 1201230729 J * fs fs@213.178.77.98 1201230765 Q * cehteh Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1201230895 J * pusling_ pusling@77.75.162.71 1201230948 M * daccman one quick question Bertl if my iptables don't start on boot on the host how can i save these two iptables so when I do start them they are there and I won't have to enter them again 1201230951 Q * pusling Read error: Connection reset by peer 1201230985 M * Bertl check out iptables-save and iptables-restore 1201231007 M * daccman ok thanks 1201231202 J * ntrs_ ~ntrs@vs079.rosehosting.com 1201231642 Q * ntrs Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1201231790 M * daccman ok Bertl when I start my guest httpd service I get this error httpd: apr_sockaddr_info_get() failed for web.asibikaashi.com 1201231813 M * daccman but the service starts ok should I worry about this 1201231933 M * daccman I would think if I went to the ip:8080 it should work if the service was working 1201232060 M * daccman yep answered my own question 1201232116 Q * Infinito Quit: Leaving 1201232279 M * daccman Bertl are you still here? 1201232748 M * daccman never mind thanks for all the help appreciate it 1201233052 Q * mire Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1201233734 M * Bertl daccman: yep, at least partially :) 1201233772 M * Bertl off to bed now though ... have fun! 1201233777 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ 1201233805 J * virtuoso_ ~s0t0na@ppp91-122-26-179.pppoe.avangard-dsl.ru 1201234217 Q * virtuoso Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1201237567 Q * daccman 1201239217 Q * hillct Remote host closed the connection 1201240119 J * chigital ~chigital@p5B0C4CA1.dip.t-dialin.net 1201240426 M * chigital hi 1201240427 M * chigital huhu 1201240519 J * g_en__ ~glen@elves.delfi.ee 1201240519 Q * fs Read error: Connection reset by peer 1201240519 Q * glen Read error: Connection reset by peer 1201240755 Q * g_en__ synthon.oftc.net galapagos.oftc.net 1201240755 Q * hardwire synthon.oftc.net galapagos.oftc.net 1201240755 Q * arekm synthon.oftc.net galapagos.oftc.net 1201240755 Q * click synthon.oftc.net galapagos.oftc.net 1201240755 Q * bragon synthon.oftc.net galapagos.oftc.net 1201240755 Q * phedny synthon.oftc.net galapagos.oftc.net 1201240755 Q * daniel_hozac synthon.oftc.net galapagos.oftc.net 1201240755 Q * Adrinael synthon.oftc.net galapagos.oftc.net 1201240755 Q * sid3windr synthon.oftc.net galapagos.oftc.net 1201240755 Q * yang synthon.oftc.net galapagos.oftc.net 1201240755 Q * kiorky synthon.oftc.net galapagos.oftc.net 1201240755 Q * alfs_ synthon.oftc.net galapagos.oftc.net 1201240755 Q * Vudumen synthon.oftc.net galapagos.oftc.net 1201240755 Q * Wonka synthon.oftc.net galapagos.oftc.net 1201240755 Q * bertagaz synthon.oftc.net galapagos.oftc.net 1201240755 Q * waldi synthon.oftc.net galapagos.oftc.net 1201240755 Q * fosco_ synthon.oftc.net galapagos.oftc.net 1201240803 Q * jescheng Remote host closed the connection 1201241003 J * jescheng ~jescheng@proxy-sjc-2.cisco.com 1201241003 J * bragon ~bragon@2001:7a8:aa58::1 1201241003 J * fs fs@213.178.77.98 1201241003 J * kiorky ~kiorky@cryptelium.net 1201241003 J * g_en__ ~glen@elves.delfi.ee 1201241003 J * hardwire ~bip@xvm-189-205.ghst.net 1201241003 J * arekm arekm@carme.pld-linux.org 1201241003 J * click click@ti511110a080-2160.bb.online.no 1201241003 J * phedny ~mark@064-022-128-083.dynamic.caiway.nl 1201241003 J * daniel_hozac ~daniel@ssh.hozac.com 1201241003 J * Adrinael adrinael@rid7.kyla.fi 1201241003 J * sid3windr luser@bastard-operator.from-hell.be 1201241003 J * yang ~yang@yang.netrep.oftc.net 1201241003 J * fosco_ fosco@konoha.devnullteam.org 1201241003 J * waldi ~waldi@bblank.thinkmo.de 1201241003 J * bertagaz ~BertAgaz@ver44-2-82-242-130-28.fbx.proxad.net 1201241003 J * Wonka produziert@chaos.in-kiel.de 1201241003 J * Vudumen ~vudumen@perverz.hu 1201241003 J * alfs_ ~alfs@sa-pc.cs.kau.se 1201241533 Q * chigital Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1201241700 Q * Medivh Server closed connection 1201241766 J * Medivh ck@dolphin.serverbox.de 1201241790 J * sharkjaw ~gab@shell.ormset.no 1201241962 J * kiorky_ ~kiorky@cryptelium.net 1201241967 Q * Vudumen Read error: Connection reset by peer 1201241967 Q * kiorky Remote host closed the connection 1201241969 J * Vudumen ~vudumen@perverz.hu 1201242368 J * hparker ~hparker@24.225.5.125 1201242505 Q * Punkie Quit: Punkie 1201242528 J * JonB ~NoSuchUse@kg1-68.kollegiegaarden.dk 1201242811 Q * brc Server closed connection 1201242816 J * brc bruce@megarapido.cliquerapido.com.br 1201243755 Q * Martz Read error: Connection reset by peer 1201243892 Q * JonB Quit: This computer has gone to sleep 1201243994 J * Martz ~Martz@router.palastanga.com 1201244203 N * pusling_ pusling 1201244240 Q * Martz Read error: Connection reset by peer 1201244477 J * Martz ~Martz@router.palastanga.com 1201244755 Q * Martz Read error: Connection reset by peer 1201244851 J * JonB ~NoSuchUse@kg1-68.kollegiegaarden.dk 1201244897 Q * hijacker Quit: Leaving 1201244911 J * _bjh_ ~bjh@84.112.154.154 1201244962 J * Martz ~Martz@router.palastanga.com 1201245054 Q * hparker Quit: Read error: 104 (Peer reset by connection) 1201245770 J * Slydder ~chuck@194.59.17.53 1201245792 M * Slydder morning all 1201246294 J * gebura ~gebura@77.192.186.197 1201246294 Q * Martz Read error: Connection reset by peer 1201246633 M * gebura hi 1201246670 J * Martz ~Martz@router.palastanga.com 1201246903 J * Punkie ~Punkie@goc.coolhousing.net 1201246913 Q * Martz Read error: Connection reset by peer 1201247155 J * Martz ~Martz@router.palastanga.com 1201247572 J * esa bip@ip-87-238-2-45.static.adsl.cheapnet.it 1201247595 Q * esa` Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1201247650 Q * Martz Read error: No route to host 1201247883 J * Martz ~Martz@router.palastanga.com 1201248141 M * pmjdebruijn hmm yay... 2.6.24 got released 1201248147 M * pmjdebruijn I noticed the new pid/net namespaces 1201248156 M * pmjdebruijn quite nice to have that as core infra in the kerenl 1201248165 M * pmjdebruijn I assume vserver will be using them? 1201248212 M * JonB ask Bertl_zZ 1201248235 M * pmjdebruijn I'll stick around... 1201248256 M * daniel_hozac they'll be optional. 1201248268 M * daniel_hozac but the network namespace is far from usable in 2.6.24. 1201248659 M * pmjdebruijn aha 1201248686 Q * Martz Read error: Connection reset by peer 1201248893 J * Martz ~Martz@router.palastanga.com 1201249135 Q * Martz Read error: Connection reset by peer 1201249170 Q * JonB Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1201249377 J * Martz ~Martz@router.palastanga.com 1201249683 Q * _bjh_ Quit: Lost terminal 1201249757 J * chigital ~chigital@stat-212-77-187-99.r-adsl.de 1201249853 J * _bjh_ ~bjh@84.112.154.154 1201250022 J * JonB hidden-use@192.38.9.151 1201250030 M * bernard hi 1201250073 M * bernard I'm using a Debian distro in a vserver made from debootstrap 1201250092 J * dna ~dna@32-241-dsl.kielnet.net 1201250096 M * bernard but /dev/ got rwxr-x--- permission 1201250126 M * bernard is it normal or did I miss something? (this annoying of course and I had to chmod o+rw) 1201250204 J * larsivi ~larsivi@85.221.53.194 1201250225 M * JonB i dont remember what permissions mine have 1201250237 M * JonB why is that annying in /dev? 1201250305 M * bernard /dev/null isn't usable 1201250329 M * daniel_hozac is your umask 007? 1201250371 M * bernard it's 0022 1201250447 M * bernard but what does it have to do with /dev default permissions? 1201250624 M * daniel_hozac because it's umask-based. 1201250639 M * daniel_hozac at least if you use vserver ... build. 1201250650 M * bernard I did 1201250668 M * bernard you meant it happened because of the umask I used when building it? 1201250680 M * daniel_hozac maybe. 1201250703 M * bernard well, other directories have fine permissions 1201250804 M * bernard I have another question about fstab : what's used exactly? vserver's fstab only? (/etc/vserver ...) or both vserver's and guest's ? 1201250816 M * daniel_hozac /etc/vservers/... 1201250831 M * bernard the fstab inside the guest won't be used at all? 1201250846 M * daniel_hozac the guest doesn't have permission to mount things by default. 1201250856 M * bernard or I gave it the permission 1201250862 M * bernard s/or// 1201250898 M * daniel_hozac why? 1201250965 M * bernard because I want to mount NFS within the guest's context (but I guess I should use fstab.remote) and I didn't like the all error messages when stopping the vserver 1201250989 M * daniel_hozac there should be no error messages if you cleaned up the guest... 1201251017 M * bernard it complains about not being able to unmount anything 1201251030 M * daniel_hozac which means it's not cleaned up. 1201251040 M * daniel_hozac throwing caps at it is hardly solving anything. 1201251044 M * bernard I've begun to remove rc.d scripts that unmount things 1201251058 M * bernard I guess I should end this work 1201251152 J * supastuff ~x@M2159P007.adsl.highway.telekom.at 1201251177 M * bernard can I safely remove any rc.d script that has something to do with mount and umount? 1201251207 M * daniel_hozac you just need the scripts that start/stop the services you wish to run. 1201251228 M * bernard ok 1201251533 Q * anelson Server closed connection 1201251562 J * anelson ~chatzilla@71.16.89.242 1201251582 Q * supastuff Quit: Leaving 1201252037 Q * chigital Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1201252780 J * ntrs__ ~ntrs@vs079.rosehosting.com 1201253222 Q * ntrs_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1201253223 Q * Slydder Remote host closed the connection 1201253321 N * ensc Guest523 1201253321 Q * Guest523 Read error: Connection reset by peer 1201253331 J * ensc ~irc-ensc@77.235.182.26 1201253468 J * Slydder ~chuck@194.59.17.53 1201253899 Q * tokkee Server closed connection 1201253902 J * tokkee tokkee@ssh.faui2k3.org 1201254025 Q * Hollow Server closed connection 1201254037 J * Hollow ~hollow@proteus.croup.de 1201254188 Q * Slydder Remote host closed the connection 1201254214 J * Slydder ~chuck@194.59.17.53 1201254650 Q * AStorm Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1201254665 J * AStorm ~astralsto@chello089077127128.chello.pl 1201255239 Q * meebey Remote host closed the connection 1201255240 J * cehteh ~ct@217.140.77.75 1201255294 J * meebey meebey@booster.qnetp.net 1201255380 Q * JonB Quit: This computer has gone to sleep 1201255673 M * pmjdebruijn hmm 1201255741 M * pmjdebruijn when I mount my rootfs using the /etc/vservers/xxx/fstab file the mountpoint isn't visible outside the vserver 1201255753 M * pmjdebruijn is there an option to make this visible to the host? 1201255768 M * pmjdebruijn this is especially useful for copying file from/to vservers 1201255893 J * JonB hidden-use@192.38.9.151 1201256241 Q * Slydder Remote host closed the connection 1201256258 J * Slydder ~chuck@194.59.17.53 1201256325 M * daniel_hozac that's kind of the point of namespaces. 1201256388 M * daniel_hozac you can disable them if you want, but your host's /proc/mounts is gonna be cluttered... 1201256654 Q * Slydder Quit: Leaving. 1201256760 M * pmjdebruijn well 1201256771 J * Slydder ~chuck@194.59.17.53 1201256775 M * pmjdebruijn if I mount all volumes using a script on the host and then start the vserver 1201256787 M * pmjdebruijn or I disable the namespace and let the vserver mount it 1201256796 M * pmjdebruijn there won't be much difference right? 1201256801 M * pmjdebruijn daniel_hozac: how can I disable that? 1201256857 J * dennis ~dennis@dslb-084-059-216-250.pools.arcor-ip.net 1201256911 Q * Martz Read error: Connection reset by peer 1201256953 J * balbir ~balbir@59.145.136.1 1201257085 M * pmjdebruijn Bertl_zZ: btw, the newer util-vserver _does_ fix my bindmount issue 1201257269 M * dennis good morning =) 1201257285 J * Martz ~Martz@router.palastanga.com 1201257576 M * daniel_hozac pmjdebruijn: /etc/vservers//nonamespace 1201257656 M * dennis anybody an idea for the problem on line 19/20 at http://rafb.net/p/RWESwR39.html? 1201257690 Q * JonB Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1201257767 J * JonB ~NoSuchUse@192.38.8.25 1201257830 M * daniel_hozac is that a baselayout2 guest? 1201257846 M * dennis yes, its sys-apps/baselayout-2.0.0_rc6-r1 1201257859 M * daniel_hozac i guess you'll want to talk to Hollow... 1201257863 M * pmjdebruijn daniel_hozac: the file only needs to exist? 1201257877 M * daniel_hozac yes. 1201257891 M * dennis okay 1201257947 Q * Slydder Remote host closed the connection 1201257949 Q * Martz Read error: Connection reset by peer 1201257964 J * Slydder ~chuck@194.59.17.53 1201258037 Q * Slydder Remote host closed the connection 1201258054 J * Slydder ~chuck@194.59.17.53 1201258375 J * Martz ~Martz@router.palastanga.com 1201258403 Q * zLinux Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1201258663 J * mattzerah ~matt@121.50.222.102 1201259203 Q * JonB Quit: This computer has gone to sleep 1201259418 M * pmjdebruijn daniel_hozac: the nonamespace thing only affects the mountpoints? 1201259422 M * pmjdebruijn not pids and such? 1201259482 J * JonB ~NoSuchUse@192.38.8.25 1201259616 N * mattzerah mattzerah`afk 1201259719 Q * mattzerah`afk Quit: GONE! 1201259909 Q * JonB Quit: This computer has gone to sleep 1201260297 M * daniel_hozac pmjdebruijn: yes. 1201260555 J * Flinx ~chatzilla@86.57.175.212 1201260857 J * chigital ~chigital@stat-212-77-187-99.r-adsl.de 1201260865 Q * Martz Read error: Connection reset by peer 1201260915 M * chigital nobody here? 1201261060 J * Martz ~Martz@router.palastanga.com 1201261303 Q * Martz Read error: Connection reset by peer 1201261376 J * virtuoso ~s0t0na@ppp91-122-187-75.pppoe.avangard-dsl.ru 1201261467 J * JonB ~NoSuchUse@192.38.8.25 1201261550 J * Martz ~Martz@router.palastanga.com 1201261635 Q * virtuoso_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1201261661 J * zLinux ~zLinux@88.213.16.94 1201261960 Q * chigital Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1201262259 Q * the-me Server closed connection 1201262261 J * the-me Patrick@Linux-Dev.org 1201262593 Q * balbir Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1201262686 J * wibble wibble@vortex.ukshells.co.uk 1201263021 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl 1201263025 M * Bertl morning folks! 1201263199 M * ard6 w000t 1201263206 M * ard6 2.6.24 is official there! 1201263216 M * Bertl yep, saw it ... 1201263241 M * ard6 [04:08] np :) 1201263250 M * ard6 Bertl : when do you sleep? 1201263270 M * Bertl well, I slept till a few minutes ago :) 1201263276 M * ard6 :-) 1201263296 M * ard6 so it was a case of deep-hacking-mode? 1201263390 M * Bertl actually it was more a good-sleep-with-sweet-dreams mode ... 1201263511 M * ard6 Hmmm, shouldn't you be at a congres right now? 1201263532 M * Bertl not that I know of, which one would that be? 1201263547 M * ard6 the virtualization congres 1201263553 M * ard6 or was that last week? 1201263568 M * Bertl you mean at profoss? that was tuesday and wednesday 1201263573 M * ard6 ah ok :-) 1201263595 J * click_ click@ti511110a080-1954.bb.online.no 1201263712 Q * click Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1201263984 Q * _bjh_ Quit: leaving 1201263999 M * Flinx good morning! 1201264171 M * Flinx Bertl: I tried to run strace by your yday advice. And i found few devices which X server looking for. 1201264171 Q * Martz Read error: Connection reset by peer 1201264219 M * Bertl Flinx: okay, can you upload the list somewhere? 1201264237 M * Flinx Bertl: But, i still can't run kde on guest. X server is returning same error "device not found" 1201264266 M * Flinx Bertl: Ok, sec, i will upload my Xorg.trace file 1201264310 M * mnemoc filter it please :) 1201264334 M * Bertl Flinx: yeah, just upload the list of devices you identified 1201264360 J * ftx_ ~ftx@dslb-084-060-255-207.pools.arcor-ip.net 1201264483 J * Martz ~Martz@router.palastanga.com 1201264495 M * Bertl wb Martz! 1201264800 M * Flinx Bertl: These devices ( http://paste.linux-vserver.org/11688 ). I already copied that devices nodes to guest os. There was no apm_bios node, so i created it. 1201264845 M * Bertl well, if it wasn't there, Xorg could hardly have used it on the host, no? 1201264927 J * yaboo ~jsirucka@220-245-131-131.static.tpgi.com.au 1201264932 M * yaboo hello 1201264933 M * Flinx Bertl: Should i remove apm_bios? All others devices was in server machine, so i just copied devices nodes from server to guest. 1201264938 M * Bertl so that is something you should better remove then ... 1201264945 M * Bertl welcome yaboo! 1201264949 M * yaboo how do I remove a vserver 1201264959 M * yaboo thank you Bertl 1201265003 M * Bertl vserver delete 1201265011 M * yaboo thanks 1201265020 M * Bertl (see 'vserver --help' and 'vserver - build --help' 1201265103 M * ard6 Hmmmm, I don't thinl Xorg really needs those devices... 1201265136 M * Bertl Flinx: did you allow io access to Xorg? did you make the proc entries visible? 1201265144 M * ard6 I can cut-paste my settings on the wiki, but I am really not in the mood to explain what I did, except for cat /blup 1201265157 A * ard6 needs sleep 1201265194 M * Flinx Bertl: Yes, i added /proc/pci and others to vprocunhide-files. 1201265217 M * harry Bertl: how do i allow more than 16 ip addresses in a guest? 1201265228 M * harry i want to virtualise a server with 36 ip's 1201265234 M * Flinx ard6: Pls, do that 1201265235 M * ard6 http://oldwiki.linux-vserver.org/MoreUbuntu 1201265242 M * harry so i'd set the limit to 64 ip's 1201265255 M * Bertl harry: recent kernel patches do not have this limit anymore 1201265261 M * harry ah? 1201265265 M * harry what is "recent" ? 1201265272 M * Bertl vs2.3.x 1201265281 M * harry damn 1201265287 M * harry i'm still in the stable branch... 1201265288 M * Flinx ard6: I have this page opened for a few days 1201265303 M * harry what's the sollution for the 2.2 (stable) series 1201265315 M * Flinx ard6: I use this wiki to configure MoreUbuntu 1201265348 M * Bertl harry: increase the maximum for patch and tools 1201265364 M * harry so both need to be adapted? 1201265372 M * Bertl Flinx: and the IO port access? 1201265394 Q * mnemoc Server closed connection 1201265408 J * mnemoc ~amery@kilo105.server4you.de 1201265415 M * Flinx Bertl: You mean CAP_SYS_RAWIO? 1201265433 M * Flinx Bertl: Yes, i have this capability in bcapabilities file. 1201265465 M * Bertl okay, then run the Xorg inside the guest, with strace -fF ... and upload the output somewhere 1201265482 M * Flinx ok 1201265606 M * harry #define NB_IPV4ROOT 16 1201265611 M * harry that's the only thing i have to change?? 1201265621 M * harry in kernel? 1201265634 M * Bertl for the kernel and the tools, yes 1201265694 M * Flinx Bertl: Sorry, remote PC hangs when i tried to stop guest os. I should wait until somebody will reboot it from office :( 1201265725 M * Bertl hmm? 1201265728 M * Flinx Bertl: I will upload trace file just after i will have access to pc. 1201265754 M * yaboo getting this error under debian when I try to setup a vserver Root-directory '/etc/vservers/.defaults/vdirbase' does not exist or is invalid 1201265756 M * yaboo any ideas 1201265779 M * Bertl bad install of util-vserver, a proper install would have created it 1201265835 M * yaboo ok 1201265862 M * ard6 Flinx : http://linux-vserver.org/VserverAndXorg 1201265938 M * ard6 yaboo : if it doen't work, it should have been: 1201265939 M * ard6 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 17 Jan 15 2007 /etc/vservers/.defaults/vdirbase -> /var/lib/vservers 1201265976 M * Flinx ard6: Thank you! I will add this link to my favourites. 1201265980 M * ard6 And yes, I've never seen it not created, so something must have gone wron 1201265982 M * ard6 g 1201265995 M * yaboo ard6 thanks 1201266002 M * Bertl ard6, yaboo: well, the problem with that is, if that wasn't created, a lot of other stuff will probably be missing 1201266007 Q * Darkglow Read error: Connection reset by peer 1201266013 M * Bertl yaboo: so I would see for a proper install 1201266014 M * ard6 yes ;-) 1201266022 J * Darkglow ~pdesnoyer@208.71.184.41 1201266328 M * harry testing... 1201266340 M * yaboo able to create a vserver but during the install get these errors 1201266353 M * yaboo secure-mount: chdir("/tmp"): No such file or directory 1201266353 M * yaboo /etc/vservers/nene/fstab:2:1: failed to mount fstab-entry 1201266353 M * yaboo vcontext: execvp("bash"): No such file or directory 1201266360 M * yaboo using debian 1201266414 M * Bertl as I said above, improper install, remove your util-vserver, isntall it correctly 1201266539 M * harry it boots... 1 thing OK ;) 1201266544 M * yaboo did that Bertl 1201266587 M * Bertl yaboo: what exactly did you do? 1201266726 J * Julius ~julius@p57B27ADE.dip.t-dialin.net 1201266860 M * yaboo apt-get remove --purge package 1201266871 M * yaboo re-installed the package 1201266875 M * yaboo vserver nene build -m debootstrap --hostname nene --interface eth1:192.168.0.2/25 -- -d etch -m http://ftp.au.debian.org/debian/ -- --resolve-deps --arch i386 --rootdir /vserver/nene, is this setup command coorect 1201266946 M * Bertl no, the --rootdir is a vserver option, but you put it into the debootstrap options 1201266974 M * Bertl also I'd assume you mean /vserver_s_ not /vserver, but YMMV 1201266992 M * Bertl but what util-vserver version is this? 1201267168 M * yaboo whatever debian testing default is 1201267260 M * yaboo Setting up util-vserver (0.30.214-6 1201267545 M * Flinx Bertl: Ok, remote PC is up. But i can't paste trace file contents to http://paste.linux-vserver.org/ , but script pastebin.php is not accepting contents of trace file. Is writing: "No code specified". 1201267610 M * Bertl upload it somewhere else, maybe a public web site 1201267615 M * Flinx ok 1201267850 M * Flinx Flinx: Trace file is there http://www.2shared.com/file/2764243/5fb13c91/Xorg.html . 1201267889 M * yaboo give up back to vmware no matter what I do vserver install seems not to be created 1201267938 M * Bertl yaboo: I would ask the debian folks, as it works perfectly for many many other people 1201267965 M * yaboo Bertl then somewhere it seems the package installation fails somewhere 1201267998 M * yaboo I follow the linux-vserver.org documentation to no avail 1201268000 M * Bertl that is my impression too, but you might also build and install util-vserver from the sources 1201268075 M * harry installing guest... 1201268082 M * yaboo ok Bertl 1201268118 M * Bertl Flinx: you sure you installed Xorg properly inside the guest? 1201268137 M * Bertl Flinx: it seems it is not finding any of the typical drivers, input handlers etc 1201268140 M * Flinx I installed it from aptitude from "Tasks" menu 1201268208 M * Bertl check the Xorg.0.log, but to me it looks like the pathes are wrong 1201268247 M * Bertl for example it is looking for /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/vesa_drv.so, which seems not to be there 1201268247 M * Flinx Bertl: Tasks -> Unrecognized tasks -> kubuntu-desktop 1201268266 M * Flinx Bertl: This is normal way to install desktop packages properly? 1201268279 M * Bertl no idea, not using this :) 1201268381 J * ema ~ema@rtfm.galliera.it 1201268502 M * Flinx Bertl: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/vesa_drv.so exists on guest os. Also, i using nvidia driver, not vesa. So i wonder why system is trying to find vesa_drv.so... 1201268529 M * Bertl well, it doesn't find the nvidia driver either 1201268542 M * Bertl 4800 stat64("nvidia_drv.so", 0xbff71f10) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) 1201268616 M * Flinx Bertl: nvidia_drv.so is there. Very weird. 1201268652 M * Bertl maybe permission issues? maybe you are starting Xorg on a different guest? 1201268675 M * Bertl did you verify that the files are there from inside the guest? 1201268686 M * Punkie yaboo: try to install vserver with this command, with yours I also got your errors: vserver nene build -n nene --hostname nene --interface eth1:192.168.0.2/25 --rootdir /vserver/nene -m debootstrap -- -d etch -m http://ftp.au.debian.org/debian/ -- --resolve-deps --arch i386 1201268834 M * Flinx Bertl: no, i have 1 guest only with hostname "guest11". All files in /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/ are 644. 1201268839 M * yaboo also if the eth1 interface is already in use, does eth1 need to be a virtual for it to work 1201268870 M * Bertl yaboo: there are no virtual interfaces in Linux-VServer, it uses IP isolation (layer 3) 1201268906 M * Flinx Bertl: files are inside guest. 1201268933 M * yaboo Bertl thanks 1201268998 M * Bertl Flinx: 4800 write(0, "(==) ModulePath set to \"/usr/lib"..., 47) = 47 1201269020 M * yaboo Punkie, cool packages are now being retrieved, thanks guys, hope no more problems, seems a syntax I guess 1201269066 M * Punkie yaboo: great ;) (and I am not guy) 1201269142 M * yaboo Punkie, my aplogie, girls or ladie 1201269327 Q * sharkjaw Quit: Leaving 1201269342 M * Flinx Bertl: Sorry, i don't understand what means this message... 1201269394 M * Flinx Bertl: Wrond module path is set? 1201269405 J * Infinito argos@201-11-191-82.gnace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br 1201269429 M * Bertl maybe, I just can tell you what I see from the trace, and it seems like it is not finding any modules, what does Xorg.0.log say about that? 1201269436 Q * JonB Quit: This computer has gone to sleep 1201269481 J * mire ~mire@89-171-222-85.adsl.verat.net 1201269520 M * harry gimlii:~# vserver test start 1201269522 M * harry stalled... 1201269524 M * harry wtf? 1201269536 M * harry is there a timeout for ... whatever it's doing 1201269545 M * harry any way to find out WHY he's waitign? 1201269568 M * Bertl yes, there is a timeout, but not sure it is for the start .. check with daniel_hozac 1201269574 Q * Aiken Read error: Connection reset by peer 1201269724 M * Flinx Bertl: there is 1 warning about cyrillic font path, 1 warning about ACPI "(WW) Open ACPI failed (/var/run/acpid.socket) (No such file or directory)", and 1 error "(EE) No devices detected." 1201269791 M * Bertl try to chroot into the guest dir (from the host) and run Xorg there, if that works, do the very same strace -fF in this way 1201269817 M * Flinx Bertl: Also, i noticed, all paths to drivers modules are with bouble slash like this "(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//nvidia_drv.so" 1201269893 M * Bertl that should not cause problems 1201269979 M * Flinx Bertl: I just tried to stop guest os and pc hangs again. 1201270012 M * Bertl that's not normal 1201270106 M * Bertl check (serial) console for messages or kernel traces 1201270126 M * harry Bertl: found it 1201270138 M * harry i blocked nfs, so bind mount stalled ... 1201270298 M * Slydder strange. i can't seem to connect to the internet with any of the new guests that I just installed. 1201270320 M * Slydder the first guest can connect but the second and later can't 1201270380 Q * Infinito Quit: Quitte 1201270840 J * JonB ~NoSuchUse@192.38.8.25 1201270950 M * Bertl Slydder: try with 'ping -I www.google.com' on the host 1201270988 M * bernard can it be useful to use ntpdate inside a guest when it's already running on the host? 1201271064 M * Bertl nope, unless you want to create diverging time (for whatever purpose) 1201271113 J * doener ~doener@i577B9A36.versanet.de 1201271129 M * bernard Bertl: ok, thx 1201271273 Q * JonB Quit: This computer has gone to sleep 1201271350 J * emag ~Itoc5OI6@gurski.org 1201271533 Q * doener_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1201272015 Q * ard6 Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1201272050 Q * larsivi Quit: Konversation terminated! 1201272138 M * Slydder bertl: got it figured out. 1201272154 M * Slydder had to set the gateway in the interfaces file 1201272160 M * Slydder forgot to do that. lol 1201273170 J * ard6 ~ard@gw-office.telegraaf.net 1201273326 M * Slydder bertl: all i need to do is touch /etc/vserver/guest_name/apps/init/mark to get the server to auto-boot at boot/re-boot. right? 1201273345 M * ard6 echo default > ... 1201273350 M * ard6 if I am correct :-) 1201273415 J * Genghis genghis@cl-544.bru-01.be.sixxs.net 1201273427 M * ard6 you put a special tag into mark 1201273439 M * ard6 and vserver will usually start the mark 'default' 1201273452 M * Slydder finally found it in the util-vserver docs. 1201273452 J * JonB ~NoSuchUse@192.38.8.25 1201273457 A * ard6 interprets that from reading vserver-wrapper 1201273466 M * ard6 so if it is correct, dunno 1201273472 M * ard6 test -n "$MARK" || MARK=default 1201273475 M * ard6 _beginResult $"Starting vservers of type '$MARK'" 1201273588 M * Slydder testing now 1201273616 M * Bertl yep, that's the way to go 1201273633 M * Bertl you can have several different 'marks' and run them with different runlevel scripts 1201274429 J * ntrs ~ntrs@vs079.rosehosting.com 1201274461 M * Bertl wb ntrs! 1201274730 Q * Slydder Remote host closed the connection 1201274765 J * Slydder ~chuck@194.59.17.53 1201274852 Q * ntrs__ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1201275092 Q * Slydder Remote host closed the connection 1201275122 J * Slydder ~chuck@194.59.17.53 1201275194 Q * Slydder Remote host closed the connection 1201275234 J * Slydder ~chuck@194.59.17.53 1201275268 Q * Slydder Remote host closed the connection 1201275558 Q * Punkie Quit: Odcházím 1201275602 J * Slydder ~chuck@194.59.17.53 1201276024 M * dennis Hollow: http://rafb.net/p/RWESwR39.html (line 19/20) ;-) 1201276305 Q * Slydder Remote host closed the connection 1201276324 J * Slydder ~chuck@194.59.17.53 1201276382 Q * Slydder 1201276429 J * ViRUS ~mp@p57A6F2D5.dip.t-dialin.net 1201276674 Q * JonB Quit: This computer has gone to sleep 1201277001 Q * gebura Quit: Quitte 1201277147 J * undefined ~undefined@adsl-68-94-190-217.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net 1201278222 J * JonB ~NoSuchUse@192.38.8.25 1201278493 J * BenG ~ben@82-45-23-100.cable.ubr03.azte.blueyonder.co.uk 1201278665 Q * JonB Quit: This computer has gone to sleep 1201278870 J * dowdle ~dowdle@scott.coe.montana.edu 1201278891 P * BenG 1201279061 J * larsivi ~larsivi@144.84-48-50.nextgentel.com 1201279119 J * yarihm ~yarihm@whitehead2.nine.ch 1201279367 Q * yang Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1201279597 Q * AStorm Quit: Fighting IRC addiction, live! 1201279831 M * Flinx Bertl: Still have problem with running X on guest OS. 1201279859 M * Flinx Bertl: What if i will install kubuntu on same pc as dual boot and will copy all files to guest folder. 1201279865 M * Hollow dennis: check your fstab inside .. it should just contain a dummy entry for / 1201279873 M * Flinx Bertl: this will work? 1201279876 M * Bertl Flinx: is an option 1201279907 M * Flinx Bertl: So, this should work? y/n? 1201279928 M * Bertl Flinx: yes, you can also copy all files from the host into a skeleton guest 1201279946 M * Bertl (and test with this distribution) 1201279999 M * Flinx Bertl: Ok, i see. I will try. 1201280045 J * balbir ~balbir@122.167.118.199 1201280047 M * Flinx Bertl: Is too problematic to create guest os with X support because of many devices, etc... 1201280067 M * Flinx Bertl: do you need to know result of this? Or you already know? 1201280073 M * dennis Hollow: it contains: dev/hdv1 / ufs defaults 0 0 1201280086 M * dennis */dev 1201280114 M * Bertl Flinx: it's always interesting, I had Xorg running inside a guest, back when moreubuntu was started 1201280132 J * JonB ~NoSuchUse@192.38.8.25 1201280141 M * Bertl Flinx: so it definitely works, just needs the proper configuration 1201280144 J * AStorm ~astralsto@chello089077127128.chello.pl 1201280181 M * dennis Hollow: is this fstab incorrect? 1201280195 M * Hollow no, it is ok 1201280202 M * Hollow no idea where this is comming from 1201280216 M * Hollow it's just cosmetic though 1201280299 M * dennis mhh... yes, thats right, but this "error" have reason. ;) 1201280520 Q * wibble Read error: Connection reset by peer 1201280564 Q * eyck_ Quit: leaving 1201280603 J * eyck_ LviW4Fzv@nat05.nowanet.pl 1201280659 N * eyck_ eyck 1201280670 N * eyck Guest546 1201280851 Q * Flinx Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.80 [Firefox 2.0.0.11/2007112718] 1201280977 M * Bertl Guest546: hey eyck! 1201281028 M * Guest546 546, nice number 1201281077 N * Guest546 Eyck- 1201281092 N * Eyck- eyck 1201281125 Q * nox Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1201281157 Q * ntrs Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1201281162 M * eyck hi Bertl 1201281418 Q * JonB Quit: This computer has gone to sleep 1201281450 J * JonB ~NoSuchUse@192.38.8.25 1201281526 J * nox ~nox@static.88-198-17-175.clients.your-server.de 1201281640 J * blawson ~blawson@ip67-152-51-187.z51-152-67.customer.algx.net 1201281640 Q * Martz Read error: Connection reset by peer 1201281699 M * Bertl welcome blawson! 1201281888 M * blawson Hey, thanks. Is this where the vserver Gods hang out? 1201281953 M * Bertl no Gods here, just us humans and bots :) 1201281972 M * blawson Which one are you? ;-) 1201281990 M * Bertl bot based on wetware ... 1201282010 J * Martz ~Martz@router.palastanga.com 1201282016 M * Bertl wb Martz! 1201282057 M * blawson Brilliant! So, Mister bot, can you tell me how to confirm what version of vserver I'm running? A client we're partners with is using it, and so I'm trying to diagnose what I believe is a misconfiguration in our context. 1201282117 M * Bertl tricky stuff, depends on the distribution/kernel, mainline kernels have an extension which is shown by 'uname -a' 1201282158 M * Bertl for example: Linux anson.lan 2.6.22.16-vs2.3.0.32 #1 Tue Jan 22 00:10:14 CET 2008 ppc 7450, altivec supported GNU/Linux 1201282178 M * Bertl that means, it is running vanilla 2.6.22.16, patched with vs2.3.0.32 1201282212 M * blawson Right. The kernel is 2.6.22.2 RHEL (Red Hat Enterprise LInux which we call R-HELL for short), custom compiled by the our client. 1201282242 M * Bertl so that would suggest that there is no Linux-VServer patch :) 1201282242 M * blawson x86 32-bit 1201282255 M * daniel_hozac RHEL is at 2.6.18, last i checked. 1201282268 M * blawson Complete line is 2.6.22.2vs2.2.0.3 -- does that make more sense? 1201282284 M * Bertl yep, that means vs2.2.0.3 a little older but fine 1201282300 M * daniel_hozac (as long as you don't trigger the oopses... :)) 1201282302 M * Bertl (we are at vs2.2.0.6 atm, see topic) 1201282306 Q * AStorm Quit: Fighting IRC addiction, live! 1201282333 M * blawson Ah, thanks. 1201282341 J * AStorm ~astralsto@chello089077127128.chello.pl 1201282381 M * Bertl AStorm: was a short fight, as it seems :) 1201282440 M * AStorm nah, was an old quit msg ;P 1201282496 M * blawson I just learned from some folks on the listserv group that if I set the VIRT_MEM flag, the free command inside the vserver will report correctly. It shows the difference between the soft and hard limits as the swap. Does that mean it will use swap? Because we've been having problems in that if the soft and hard limits are the same and the VIRT_MEM flag isn't set, it will act as if there's no swap. And we suddenly have pro 1201282555 M * daniel_hozac hint: IRC is meant for short messages. long messages get cut off. 1201282584 M * blawson sorry. 1201282647 M * blawson Short question was: if I set the VIRT_MEM flag, the difference between my soft and hard limit shows as swap. Does that mean I can now use swap? 1201282674 M * Hollow Bertl: is the 2.6.24 pre.diff usable? 1201282700 M * daniel_hozac Hollow: not feature complete yet, and some rather serious bugs still (e.g. fake init) 1201282706 M * Hollow ok :) 1201282719 M * daniel_hozac also XFS is untested, and i think it'll require some form of migration tool. 1201282746 M * Hollow ah, let me know if you need any help .. i use xfs everyhwere 1201282765 M * pmjdebruijn why does vserver actually touch fs code? 1201282775 M * daniel_hozac to add the necessary flags. 1201282778 Q * Martz Read error: Connection reset by peer 1201282778 M * pmjdebruijn flags for? 1201282788 M * daniel_hozac the chroot barrier, invert unlink. 1201282805 M * pmjdebruijn ah 1201282912 M * daniel_hozac blawson: swap will be used if swap would be used normally. what's represented as swap is actually RAM, since we don't keep stats of swap. 1201282918 M * Bertl Hollow: yes, xfs filesystems will need some work or a rebuild 1201282941 J * dennis_ ~dennis@dslb-088-068-217-042.pools.arcor-ip.net 1201282994 M * pmjdebruijn we also use xfs intensively 1201283000 M * pmjdebruijn private I use ext3 1201283079 M * Bertl mainline changed the meaning of certain xfs flags, we used for the barrier and the iunlink 1201283081 M * dennis_ Hollow: you haven't any idea to resolve the mount-"problem"? 1201283095 P * blawson 1201283145 Q * yarihm Quit: Leaving 1201283157 M * Hollow dennis_: no, have to dig into the sources first 1201283177 Q * dennis Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1201283203 J * Martz ~Martz@router.palastanga.com 1201283366 M * daniel_hozac Bertl: speaking of 2.6.24... you mentioned x86 ptrace as one of the things that needed fixing. isn't __ptrace_may_attach sufficient for that? 1201283390 M * Bertl haven't checked that yet, but might be fine 1201283551 M * dennis_ Hollow: i tried your stage4-archive and locked into /dev and compare it with my own stage4: http://rafb.net/p/ZMYs1F31.html (test => your stage4; mail => my stage4) 1201283579 M * dennis_ you haven't /dev/shm 1201283590 M * dennis_ in my stage4 exists /dev/shm 1201283612 M * Hollow remove it then :) 1201283621 M * Hollow maybe this solves the problem too 1201283655 M * dennis_ yeah... no error message... =D 1201283676 M * dennis_ mh... i hope, this was the right solution. ;) 1201283681 M * Hollow yes 1201283685 M * Hollow ;) 1201283749 M * dennis_ i think /dev/shm exists because my stage4-archive runs as standalone-sytem originally. ;) 1201283755 N * click_ click 1201283774 J * ntrs ~ntrs@vs079.rosehosting.com 1201283776 M * dennis_ *system 1201283872 M * dennis_ exists a command to remove a vserver-guest easily? ;) 1201283887 M * daniel_hozac vserver delete 1201283935 M * dennis_ ohh... it isn't documented in vserver man-page ;) 1201283986 M * daniel_hozac it is here :) 1201284004 Q * jescheng Remote host closed the connection 1201284015 J * jescheng ~jescheng@proxy-sjc-2.cisco.com 1201284028 M * daniel_hozac (not that the man pages are to be trusted, use --help) 1201284033 M * dennis_ i'm using the 0.30.214 of the vserver-utils. 1201284066 M * dennis_ ohh... i see... --help is more informative. :) 1201284365 Q * bernard Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1201284583 Q * lilalinux Remote host closed the connection 1201284845 J * bernard bernard@massot.ath.cx 1201285038 J * yang ~yang@cpe-212-18-59-220.dynamic.amis.net 1201286097 J * hparker ~hparker@linux.homershut.net 1201286208 Q * JonB Quit: This computer has gone to sleep 1201286257 Q * bernard Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1201286435 J * bernard bernard@massot.ath.cx 1201287457 Q * ema Quit: leaving 1201287703 P * undefined 1201288018 J * JonB ~NoSuchUse@192.38.8.25 1201288203 Q * bernard Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1201288395 Q * hardwire Remote host closed the connection 1201288435 J * hardwire ~bip@xvm-189-205.ghst.net 1201288985 J * bernard bernard@massot.ath.cx 1201289643 J * ntrs_ ~ntrs@vs079.rosehosting.com 1201290289 M * dennis_ bye bye 1201290293 Q * dennis_ Remote host closed the connection 1201290318 Q * ntrs Quit: Leaving 1201290970 J * wam ~wam@p5B2FD8FB.dip.t-dialin.net 1201290975 M * wam Hi everyone 1201291064 M * wam I just used a vserver 2.2 enabled kernel from another machine on a new server. I built it as .deb, so anything should be included. But when I call util-vserver (self compiled and according to configure with dietlibc), I get "capabilities are not enabled in kernel-setup" (after 3 errors). Where should I start? 1201291092 M * wam s/errors/segementation faults 1201291143 Q * balbir Read error: Operation timed out 1201291903 J * balbir ~balbir@122.167.65.15 1201293245 M * bzed start with the packages from debian? 1201293251 M * bzed instead of building your own packages 1201293608 J * undefined ~undefined@adsl-68-94-190-217.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net 1201293795 M * wam who me? 1201294302 M * bzed yes 1201294336 M * wam bzed: i thought debian and ubuntu packages are built against glibc and therefore not working? 1201294339 M * Bertl wam: did you boot the kernel successfully? 1201294347 M * wam Bertl: yes 1201294367 M * wam Bertl: there's also a /proc/virtual 1201294381 M * Bertl okay, then run testme.sh on that and upload it 1201294384 M * wam Bertl: with info and status 1201294394 Q * ViRUS Quit: Leaving 1201294395 M * wam Bertl: what was the url for testme? 1201294425 A * wam is googling 1201294430 M * Bertl http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Stuff/SCRIPT/testme.sh 1201294464 M * wam thanks ;) 1201294515 M * Bertl np 1201294531 M * wam http://paste.plone.org/19217 1201294554 M * wam thats also exactly what I get when running vserver ... start 1201294563 M * wam nearly 1201294570 M * Bertl looks like your tools were miscompiled 1201294611 M * wam Bertl: I used the ones from ubuntu gutsy and self-compiled on ubuntu gutsy with the provided dietlibc. But maybe that's all doomed. 1201294625 M * wam Bertl: ok - that's enough of info. I try some things first. 1201294659 M * Bertl ubuntu was pretty broken some time ago, but IIRC, there is an ubuntu package for util-vserver nowadays 1201294740 M * wam Bertl: this doesn't work either. I compiled even dietlibc on one host. So I'll try this here too first. Just wanted to know if there's another problem. 1201294850 M * wam is there any effort on util-vserver not depending on dietlibc? I had to compile anything myself a lot of times due to this. 1201294855 J * chigital ~chigital@p5B0C5F13.dip.t-dialin.net 1201294881 M * Bertl wam: well, it's not about depending on dietlibc, it's about avoiding glibc :) 1201294915 Q * undefined Quit: Closing object 1201294918 M * Bertl glibc is a security issue with guest maintainance 1201294920 M * wam Bertl: sure, there may be a lot of reasons for this. But well - it's the reason for bugs in debian and ubuntu. No offence ;) 1201294933 M * wam ok 1201294946 M * Bertl so feel free to use glibc, it should compile 1201294956 M * wam that's bad. What if util-vserver provided it's own dietlibc in some thirdparty dir? 1201294958 M * Bertl but don't complain when the wrong library addons are loaded 1201294973 M * wam it would at least make the compilation easier 1201294973 Q * hparker Remote host closed the connection 1201294989 M * bzed wam: the tools in debian work well definitely 1201294989 M * Bertl the dietlibc from fefe is fine for some time now on most archs 1201295005 J * hparker ~hparker@linux.homershut.net 1201295015 M * Bertl welcome chigital! 1201295116 M * wam Bertl: It's just on me ;) I came from debian sarge, where I had to compile anything due to newer versions. Then I went to etch where afair util-vserver.deb was compiled against glibc which didn't work. Then I went to ubuntu dapper and then etch where they took the broken debian util-vserver. Now on ubuntu gutsy anything is broken again... It's just I don't want to compile it on every host I install ;) 1201295176 M * wam Bertl: agian, no offence. I'm able to do it... 1201295180 J * undefined ~undefined@adsl-68-94-190-217.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net 1201295187 M * Bertl hehe, complain to the distro maintainers :) 1201295191 M * wam yeah 1201295240 M * Bertl but yeah, the ubuntu folks have a pretty broken devel distro 1201295243 M * wam ubuntu gutsy: even broken dietlibc support. 1201295247 M * wam sucs. 1201295249 M * wam k 1201295268 M * undefined wam: util-vserver from backports.org works fine on etch 1201295280 M * wam undefined: thanks, but I have no etch server anymore ;) 1201295320 M * undefined wam: for future reference when you feel like bad-mouthing etch again ;) 1201295323 M * Bertl try it on ubuntu, should be close enough 1201295345 M * wam undefined: ok, I'll remember ;) 1201295398 M * wam Bertl: hmm - with broken dietlibc? I'll compile myself again... Better no experiments - these are production services ;) 1201295446 M * Bertl dietlibc is a _static_ thing 1201295467 M * Bertl so when the package is compiled, it does not use dietlibc anymore 1201295504 M * wam Bertl: ah - so - ok - ahm - sure - why not? ;) 1201295512 M * wam hmm 1201295534 M * wam maybe I should try. 1201295551 A * wam was unable to shortly create a .deb out of util-vserver 1201295569 M * wam so backports.org would match. I'll try. 1201295809 J * yarihm ~yarihm@84-75-103-252.dclient.hispeed.ch 1201295869 J * Aiken ~james@ppp59-167-109-167.lns3.bne1.internode.on.net 1201295933 Q * chigital Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1201295991 M * wam nice, backports.org etch package util-vserver seems to work on ubuntu gutsy. Thanks for pointing this out. This will save me a lot of work! 1201296034 J * ntrs ~ntrs@vs079.rosehosting.com 1201296069 M * Bertl you're welcome! 1201296432 Q * ntrs_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1201296507 Q * hparker Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1201296545 M * wam you guys rock. 1201296650 P * Darkglow Konversation terminated! 1201297165 Q * Martz Read error: Connection reset by peer 1201297214 Q * yarihm Read error: Connection reset by peer 1201297403 J * Martz ~Martz@router.palastanga.com 1201297648 Q * Martz Read error: Connection reset by peer 1201297887 J * Martz ~Martz@router.palastanga.com 1201298130 Q * Martz Read error: Connection reset by peer 1201298338 Q * wam Quit: Verlassend 1201298370 J * Martz ~Martz@router.palastanga.com 1201298871 Q * undefined Quit: Closing object 1201299400 Q * marcfiu Quit: Leaving. 1201299863 J * ktwilight_ ~ktwilight@124.107-66-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be 1201300114 Q * Martz Read error: Connection reset by peer 1201300148 Q * ktwilight Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1201300346 J * Martz ~Martz@router.palastanga.com 1201300540 Q * opuk Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1201300611 J * opuk ~kupo@c213-100-138-228.swipnet.se 1201301113 J * Infinito argos@201-3-19-118.gnace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br 1201302119 J * dna_ ~dna@32-241-dsl.kielnet.net 1201302517 Q * dna Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1201303206 Q * JonB Quit: This computer has gone to sleep 1201303357 Q * cohan Server closed connection 1201303358 J * cohan ~cohan@koniczek.de 1201303460 Q * dna_ Quit: Verlassend 1201303724 J * dna ~dna@32-241-dsl.kielnet.net 1201303966 Q * Radiance Server closed connection 1201303986 J * Radiance 5d0621904c@193.16.154.187 1201304148 M * daniel_hozac Bertl: http://people.linux-vserver.org/~dhozac/p/k/delta-v4any-fix01.diff 1201304151 Q * dna Quit: Verlassend 1201304173 M * daniel_hozac Bertl: or do we not care about compatibility for this case? 1201304217 M * Bertl hmm, not really, but it is an additional check, so .... 1201304229 M * Bertl what does it fix? :) 1201304250 M * daniel_hozac assigning 0.0.0.0 to a guest doesn't behave the same way it used to. 1201304266 M * Bertl you mean, allowing all ips to be bound? 1201304271 M * daniel_hozac right. 1201304278 M * daniel_hozac and no interfaces can be seen. 1201304283 M * Bertl well, I was hoping for a userspace solution there 1201304292 M * Bertl i.e. not using chbind at all 1201304489 M * daniel_hozac that's not quite as flexible though, since you cannot chbind the processes if you realize you need to after the fact. 1201304521 M * Bertl you mean, like when changing from unbound to bound cases? 1201304521 M * daniel_hozac but maybe i could add something to parse 0.0.0.0 as a MASK instead... 1201304531 M * daniel_hozac exactly. 1201304556 M * Bertl well, that's always a little tricky, especially for already bound sockets (to ips :) 1201304575 Q * blizz Server closed connection 1201304575 J * blizz ~stephan@evilhackerdu.de 1201304605 M * daniel_hozac true, but assuming the guest administrator is cooperative, it's possible. 1201304615 M * Bertl in general, I would opt for disallowing 0.0.0.0 as ip assignment (userspace wise) and add some kind of 'avoid chbind' flag 1201304638 M * Bertl as you said, you can always hack around that with the mask 1201304757 M * Bertl let's give that a night (and a few more thoughts) ... and we'll decide that tomorrow 1201304786 M * daniel_hozac sure. 1201305061 M * Bertl what are we missing for 2.6.24 besides scheduler stuff btw? 1201305098 M * daniel_hozac 2008-01-17T22:58:23 < Bertl> scheduler, xfs (partially fixed, untested), reiserf (probably resolved), security_vm_enough_memory_mm(feature), init pid stuff, x86 ptrace, vtime, user spaces (needs testing) 1201305128 M * Bertl ah, okay, any progress on the init stuff? 1201305159 M * daniel_hozac unfortunately not... i've got it seemingly working, except that /proc/1 doesn't appear in the directory listings. still working on that part. 1201305170 J * yarihm ~yarihm@84-75-103-252.dclient.hispeed.ch 1201305204 M * Bertl okay, sounds promising ...