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1201133680 M * daccman hello Bertl I have tried several times to build a vserver of Fedora 7 but this is an error I am getting /usr/local/lib/util-vserver/distributions/f7/initpost: line 105:  4474 Killed                  $_VSERVER "$vserver" exec bash -c ': >/tmp/startwait' >&/dev/null
1201133706 M * daccman what does this error mean and can I fix it
1201133752 M * daniel_hozac just ignore it.
1201133799 M * daccman oh ok what does it mean
1201133860 M * daniel_hozac that it's racy.
1201133876 M * daccman ok ?
1201133883 M * daccman racy ?
1201134245 M * Bertl processes overlap, missing synchronization
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1201134337 M * daccman oh ok
1201134442 M * daccman  I must be doing something wrong with the setup of the network inteface for the vserver cause it is not workin for me
1201134461 M * Bertl _what_ are you doing?
1201134569 M * daccman well this is the command i used for building vserver web build -m yum --hostname=asibikaashi.com --interface web0=eth0:192.168.0.1/24 -- -d f7
1201134631 J * undefined ~undefined@adsl-68-94-190-217.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net
1201134631 M * daccman so i am assuming web0 should be visible
1201134634 M * Bertl so you defined an old fashioned web0 alias, for 192.168.0.1/24 on eth0
1201134664 M * Bertl after guest startup/restart, it should become visible inside the guest
1201134667 M * daccman ok so i gather i am doing it wrong
1201134697 M * Bertl it will become visible as eth0:web0
1201134718 M * daniel_hozac are you NATing 192.168.0.1 on the host?
1201134768 M * daccman I would like the vserver to be ip 192.168.1.1 and to be able to run a web server on the vserver and to ba able to connect to it from the out side
1201134794 M * Bertl then why do you assign 192.168.0.1 to it?
1201134820 M * daccman should it be 192.168.1.1/24
1201134889 M * Bertl probably :)
1201134948 M * Bertl if you want to run a service with a public ip on it, you have to use DNAT for taht
1201134965 M * Bertl if you want to reach the outside world via a public ip, you have to SNAT it
1201134982 M * Bertl alternatively, you can assign a public ip directly to the guest
1201134985 M * daccman yep I am trying to get to that point
1201135031 M * daccman can't do that only have one ip hence the vservers for hosting
1201135048 M * Bertl perfectly fine
1201135074 M * daccman I am rebuilding the vserver now with the 192.168.1.1/24
1201135095 M * Bertl no need to 'rebuild' it, you can simply change that at any time in the config
1201135098 J * dennis_ ~dennis@dslb-084-059-192-171.pools.arcor-ip.net
1201135128 M * Bertl also, it doesn't matter if you take 192.168.0.1 or 192.168.1.1 but you should be consistant
1201135214 M * daccman then i will start it and theni will be able to start the vserver then I have to forward the external ip to the internal ip
1201135502 M * daccman then would I use this to forward to it iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -s 192.168.1.1/24 -o eth0 192.168.1.1/24 -j SNAT --to-source 72.55.xx.xx
1201136132 M * Bertl hmm, the second 192.168.1.1/24 is garbage
1201136150 M * Bertl iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -s 192.168.1.1/24 -o eth0 -j SNAT --to-source 72.55.xx.xx
1201136171 M * Bertl that will give you internet access for all guests in 192.168.1.x
1201136193 M * daccman oh ok I am try to figure stuff out myself with google too so it is a mismatch of info
1201136228 M * mnemoc daccman: didn't i told you remove the second 192.168.1.1/24 hours++ ago?
1201136241 M * daniel_hozac you did :)
1201136270 M * Bertl well, he might be able to figure that out with google in a few days too :)
1201136288 M * mnemoc daniel_hozac: thanks, i thought i was getting alzheimer
1201136297 M * mnemoc Bertl: :D
1201136313 M * Bertl mnemoc: isn't that htat strange illness .. what were we talking about?
1201136314 M * daccman sorry people I have been at this all day and your right you did 
1201136327 M * daccman lol
1201136336 M * daccman :)
1201136349 M * mnemoc Bertl: vmware i think
1201136458 M * daccman I think I might have a bit of that strange disease lol :(
1201136508 M * Bertl don't worry, that's why we have realtime IRC logs .. you can always go and read about your last question :)
1201136517 M * mnemoc :D
1201136530 M * daniel_hozac but by the time you find the logs, you'll have forgotten what you were looking for... :)
1201136548 M * daccman ok but i dont seem to have internet connection on the vserver
1201136584 M * daccman here is my error when doin a yum update Could not retrieve mirrorlist http://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/mirrorlist?repo=fedora-7&arch=i386 error was
1201136596 M * Bertl daccman: did you start it? does it show the ip when you enter it? is the iptables rule in place? how did you check the connectivity?
1201136630 M * mnemoc etc/resolv.conf set correctly?
1201136677 M * daccman it is started and I did enter it I tried to ping google.ca to check connectivity
1201136718 M * daccman nothing comes up with the ip though and the iptables is in place 
1201136738 M * daccman checking etc/resolve.conf
1201136849 M * daccman resolv.conf on the host or the vserver
1201136855 M * daniel_hozac the guest.
1201136901 M * daccman ok I can't find that file in etc
1201136910 M * daccman that could be why
1201137035 M * mnemoc probably
1201137137 M * daccman nope I ran this command and the same error even when on the host temporary failure in name resolution
1201137166 M * mnemoc ping the IPs of the nameservers from within the guest
1201137174 M * daccman oops  vyum web -- update
1201137222 M * daccman yep I can do that
1201137288 M * daccman it comes back with a response
1201137288 M * mnemoc then you don'T have iptables related problems
1201137305 M * daccman ok this is good
1201137312 M * daniel_hozac did you create /etc/resolv.conf in the guest?
1201137424 M * Bertl okay, was a long day for me ... off to bed now ... have a good one everyone!
1201137440 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ
1201137443 M * daccman ok thanks for all your help bertl
1201137455 M * daccman I really appreciate it
1201137502 M * daccman sorry working on it
1201137727 P * undefined 
1201137950 M * daccman nope my resolv.conf has the name servers in it 
1201137977 M * daccman still no luck
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1201157564 Q * hardwire Quit: Coyote finally caught me
1201158136 J * Slydder ~chuck@194.59.17.53
1201158201 M * Slydder morning all
1201158804 M * hijacker morning
1201159375 J * JonB ~NoSuchUse@kg1-68.kollegiegaarden.dk
1201159505 J * fatgoose ~samuel@bas5-quebec14-1242523506.dsl.bell.ca
1201159513 P * fatgoose 
1201160513 J * Punkie ~Punkie@goc.coolhousing.net
1201161176 Q * Martz Read error: Connection reset by peer
1201161418 J * Martz ~Martz@router.palastanga.com
1201161849 Q * balbir Read error: Operation timed out
1201161862 J * hardwire ~bip@xvm-189-205.ghst.net
1201161930 Q * hardwire 
1201161945 J * hardwire ~bip@xvm-189-205.ghst.net
1201162123 J * _bjh_ ~bjh@84.112.154.154
1201162572 J * ViRUS ~mp@p57A6D068.dip.t-dialin.net
1201162629 J * balbir ~balbir@122.167.97.227
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1201163689 M * pmjdebruijn for the vserver fstab in /etc/vserver, is there a short mnemonic for a vservers vdir?
1201163699 M * pmjdebruijn in stead of /etc/vservers/vservername/vdir
1201163739 M * daniel_hozac you realize the target column is already relative to the guest's root, right?
1201164024 J * doener ~doener@i577B9980.versanet.de
1201164182 M * pmjdebruijn yeah, I just noticed
1201164437 M * pmjdebruijn http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/53278/
1201164985 M * daniel_hozac which util-vserver version?
1201165016 M * pmjdebruijn util-vserver (0.30.212-1)
1201165056 M * pmjdebruijn my fstab is fine, I guess?
1201165059 J * marcel ~marcel@lt3.xs4all.nl
1201165463 J * dna ~dna@183-192-dsl.kielnet.net
1201165580 M * pmjdebruijn hmm
1201165613 M * pmjdebruijn I also noticed, if the rootfs gets mounted from the /etc/vserver fstab the mount is not visible from/to host...
1201166209 M * daniel_hozac yep, as expected.
1201166224 M * daniel_hozac you should upgrade your utils. it's an old bug that was fixed in 0.30.213 or 0.30.214...
1201166688 J * JonB ~NoSuchUse@kg1-68.kollegiegaarden.dk
1201168648 Q * marcel Read error: Connection reset by peer
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1201170133 J * lilalinux ~plasma@80.69.41.3
1201170447 Q * awk Ping timeout: 480 seconds
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1201170703 J * ag- ag@fedaykin.roxor.cx
1201170926 J * JonB ~NoSuchUse@kg1-68.kollegiegaarden.dk
1201171571 J * Hiaslboy ~wieser@143.224.23.204
1201171676 J * ktwilight ~ktwilight@153.216-66-87.adsl-static.isp.belgacom.be
1201171731 M * ktwilight am using debian etch at the moment, if i were to upgrade to lenny, will my guests be affected even though i don't upgrade my guests.
1201171880 J * gebura ~gebura@77.192.186.197
1201172398 J * mattzerah ~matt@121.50.222.102
1201172945 M * pmjdebruijn daniel_hozac: ok, I'll try
1201173214 Q * nou Server closed connection
1201173215 J * nou Chaton@causse.larzac.fr.eu.org
1201173297 J * pmenier ~pme@LNeuilly-152-22-72-5.w193-251.abo.wanadoo.fr
1201173309 N * mattzerah mattzerah`afk
1201175190 J * larsivi ~larsivi@144.84-48-50.nextgentel.com
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1201176174 J * misc-- ~misc@122.2.117.86
1201176179 M * misc-- hello
1201176237 M * misc-- how do you keep a guest's time in sync with the host? I'm sure I've done this somehow but can't remember how and I can't find any documentation on it
1201177685 J * yarihm ~yarihm@vpn-global-dhcp2-1.ethz.ch
1201177829 Q * Punkie Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1201177946 M * gebura misc--, i don't think it is the "official" way but you can use ntp 
1201178040 M * misc-- gebura: yeah that was the way I tried but ntp is running on the host, and theres actually no way to get ntp to listen on the real host IP. Instead it listens on 0.0.0.0 unfortunately. Oh well
1201178080 Q * _gh_ Quit: Client exiting
1201178135 M * gebura hum ok
1201178158 M * gebura i don't remember if there is a way to reactivate hwclock withouth giving the write access
1201178167 M * gebura maybe with a CAP
1201178249 J * Punkie ~Punkie@goc.coolhousing.net
1201178257 M * misc-- mmm hwclock sounds familiar. I know I've dealt with this issue before and hwclock rings a bell.
1201178384 M * gebura hwclock don't work out of box but a way to ativate it must exist
1201178440 M * misc-- yeah I'm just looking at a host that I know the clock works fine for the guests. But no special capability files exist. Oh well I'll remember eventually (and write it down this time)
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1201178457 J * weasel weasel@weasel.chair.oftc.net
1201178461 J * ema ~ema@rtfm.galliera.it
1201178475 J * yarihm_ ~yarihm@84-75-103-252.dclient.hispeed.ch
1201178481 Q * yarihm Read error: No route to host
1201178486 M * gebura with a rapid look at http://linux-vserver.org/Capabilities_and_Flags i found: SYS_TIME or SYS_RAWIO (hwclock stop with this error : "hwclock is unable to get I/O port access:  the iopl(3) call failed.")
1201178506 M * gebura wish it can help
1201178511 M * gebura i have to go :)
1201178520 M * misc-- thats ok thanks anwyay =)
1201178553 N * mattzerah`afk mattzerah
1201178553 M * mattzerah i might be off track, but doesn't the kernel keep track of time ?
1201178577 Q * yarihm_ 
1201178606 M * mattzerah which means that the guests should keep in time with the host becuase they share the same kernel
1201178632 M * mattzerah or are you not talking about vserver guests ?
1201178678 J * yarihm ~yarihm@84-75-103-252.dclient.hispeed.ch
1201178749 M * misc-- I think you are right. I've double checked that before though, I was under the same impression that the guests should just work
1201178773 M * gebura yes the only difference must be the localtime
1201178774 M * mattzerah i think you'll find that pure virtual machines like VMWare etc have a problem with time
1201178775 Q * bzed Server closed connection
1201178777 J * bzed ~bzed@devel.recluse.de
1201178784 M * gebura witch can cause a difference
1201178786 M * mattzerah i know i have a problem with VMWare and time :/
1201178791 M * misc-- oh wait a sec... I remember now
1201178802 M * mattzerah but aparantly the new update solves a lot of that
1201178808 Q * yarihm Read error: Connection reset by peer
1201178808 M * misc-- it's my /etc/localtime that is causing the problem. All I have to do is link that to the right zone and then problem solved. 
1201178823 M * misc-- I've never *not* had a problem with vmware and time
1201178829 M * mattzerah so its not that the time is out of sync, its that its in the wrong time zone ?
1201178836 M * misc-- yeah that's right
1201178843 M * misc-- my fault my fualt :o
1201178848 M * gebura misc--, maybe can you take few minutes to write a short page on the wiki ? :)
1201178875 M * misc-- there we go, problem fixed
1201178885 M * misc-- I might do that actually. Just add it to the faq or something
1201178907 P * Slydder 
1201178929 J * yarihm ~yarihm@84-75-103-252.dclient.hispeed.ch
1201178962 M * misc-- I need to go out now though but I'll put it in. I've got a few other things that I'm sure will be useful for the faq
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1201179466 Q * jsambrook 
1201179523 J * sladen paul@starsky.19inch.net
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1201180509 J * ftx ~ftx@dslb-084-060-240-222.pools.arcor-ip.net
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1201180610 J * JonB ~NoSuchUse@kg1-68.kollegiegaarden.dk
1201181283 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl
1201181287 M * Bertl morning folks!
1201181365 M * JonB hey Bertl 
1201181535 Q * balbir Read error: Operation timed out
1201182485 M * pmjdebruijn hmm
1201182497 M * pmjdebruijn I seriously have NFS working without SYS_CAP_ADMIN
1201182506 M * Bertl pmjdebruijn: hmm, hmm :)
1201182513 M * pmjdebruijn please note that I started /etc/init.d/nfs-kernel-server outside of the vserver
1201182521 M * pmjdebruijn which is sweet
1201182529 M * Bertl and the natural way to do it
1201182535 M * daniel_hozac what does "NFS working" mean?
1201182539 M * pmjdebruijn erhm
1201182554 M * pmjdebruijn sorry
1201182558 M * pmjdebruijn I'm talking sh*t
1201182563 M * pmjdebruijn not nfs kernel server
1201182565 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: as far as I understood, he is exporting some guest dir to the world
1201182566 M * pmjdebruijn the nfs (client) module
1201182572 M * pmjdebruijn no sorry
1201182579 M * pmjdebruijn my vservers are nfs clients
1201182585 M * Bertl okay, then importing an nfs volume into a guest?
1201182599 M * pmjdebruijn so I have portmap/nfs-common running in my guset
1201182602 M * Bertl that doesn't require anything, not even the nfs stuff on the host
1201182608 M * pmjdebruijn but I'm loading the nfs module on the host
1201182629 M * Bertl the simplest way to do that is to put the nfs mount into fstab.remote (guest config)
1201182633 M * pmjdebruijn Bertl: I still need SECURE_MOUNT, SECURE_REMOUNT, SECURE_BINARY though
1201182640 M * Bertl doesn't need to have anything nfs related inside the guest
1201182652 M * pmjdebruijn at first we used a bind mount on the host
1201182655 M * daniel_hozac you need to have portmap running on 127.0.0.1.
1201182672 M * pmjdebruijn but we need to be able to remount nfs without each vserver
1201182676 M * pmjdebruijn as nfs is quite unreliable
1201182693 M * pmjdebruijn outside of the vservers (on the host) would require restarting all the vservers after remounting the nfs volumes
1201182695 M * daniel_hozac there are other ways to accomplish that, without having the guest remount it.
1201182697 M * pmjdebruijn that's not an option
1201182704 M * pmjdebruijn like?
1201182705 M * Bertl as I told you yesterday, you can do that from the guest namespace, without any of the mount CPAS
1201182727 M * pmjdebruijn Bertl: we tried that in the past... I looked it up in the FAQ, back then it didn't work that great for us
1201182735 M * pmjdebruijn so we're playing it safe
1201182736 M * daniel_hozac you can even do the shared subtree thing, so you only have to remount it in one place.
1201182752 M * Bertl yep, with recent ekrnels, an option too
1201182758 Q * JonB Quit: This computer has gone to sleep
1201182762 M * Bertl (my typing sucks today :)
1201182768 M * pmjdebruijn though thanks for the suggestions
1201182778 M * pmjdebruijn vserver still rocks my world :)
1201182830 J * balbir ~balbir@122.167.97.227
1201182834 M * Bertl good to hear .. just you could make your life easier if you would listen to the folks who really _know_ what you can do and how :)
1201183132 M * Bertl but of course, that's up to you .. not my problem :)
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1201184153 J * ftx ~ftx@dslb-084-060-240-222.pools.arcor-ip.net
1201184177 M * Bertl wb balbir! ftx!
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1201184363 J * Punkie ~Punkie@goc.coolhousing.net
1201184438 M * daniel_hozac Bertl: for /dev/loopX, should we use VS_ADMIN_P or VS_WATCH_P? (i think we need one of them so that you can clean up from guests long gone)
1201184545 M * Bertl ADMIN_P would sound good to me for administrative tasks like this
1201184570 M * daniel_hozac yeah... but it applies to all operations, since the check is in open.
1201184575 P * emag 
1201184579 J * bernard bernard@massot.ath.cx
1201184619 M * bernard hello
1201184623 M * daniel_hozac hi
1201184629 M * Bertl welcome bernard!
1201184653 M * bernard I guess this is an FAQ but it's not in the web site's FAQ : what's the current situation about loopback device ?
1201184656 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: so you would opt for WATCH_P? any cases where we need it in the spectator?
1201184687 M * Bertl bernard: they are fine ... always were :)
1201184691 M * daniel_hozac i'm not sure. WATCH_P seems more consistent with other things, i think.
1201184717 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: okay, any negative implications you can imagine?
1201184720 J * doener_ ~doener@i577AF1AF.versanet.de
1201184761 M * bernard Bertl: I can't find info newer than http://www.mail-archive.com/vserver%40list.linux-vserver.org/msg10163.html , when it was just impossible to use the loopback interface
1201184769 Q * Martz Read error: Connection reset by peer
1201184776 A * bernard just realized he first wrote "device" instead of "interface"
1201184809 M * Bertl bernard: Linux-VServer _uses_ the loopback itnerface since the beginning, especially for guest-guest communication
1201184811 M * daniel_hozac Bertl: none that i can think of.
1201184827 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: okay, then it is fine with me, can't think of anything either
1201184835 M * bernard Bertl: I'd like a vserver specific loopback interface, is it possible?
1201184861 M * Bertl ah, that's the real question :) no, that's not possible
1201184870 M * bernard ok
1201184879 M * bernard does it look like it will some day ?
1201184881 M * Bertl but, with recent patches, you can have your private 127.0.0.1 ip
1201184907 M * Bertl which will _look_ like you have your own loopback interface
1201184922 M * bernard that would be enough
1201184938 M * bernard how can you do that?
1201184953 M * daniel_hozac enable CONFIG_VSERVER_AUTO_LBACK, and magic ensues :)
1201184955 M * Bertl you enable the LBACK remapping stuff
1201184983 M * Bertl each guest will get a specific loopback address 127.x.y.1
1201184998 M * Bertl and it will be used instead of 127.0.0.1
1201185039 M * bernard I'm using Debian Etch's default kernel (the vserver version of course)
1201185050 M * bernard how can I check if it's enabled?
1201185052 M * daniel_hozac it's not.
1201185062 M * daniel_hozac that patch doesn't have the feature at all.
1201185079 M * Bertl bernard: get a recent one from backports, and you should be fine, I think?
1201185087 M * daniel_hozac nah, that's still 2.2.
1201185136 Q * doener Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1201185150 M * Bertl okay, then build your own ...
1201185173 M * bernard what version do I need?
1201185181 M * daniel_hozac 2.3.
1201185196 M * bernard ok
1201185203 M * bernard thx daniel_hozac and Bertl 
1201185204 J * Martz ~Martz@router.palastanga.com
1201185211 M * Bertl welcome Martz!
1201185215 M * Bertl bernard: you're welcome!
1201185309 M * hijacker fellows, sorry for troubling you again, but where do i get the latest vserver kernel patch for linux-2.6.23.14?
1201185316 M * hijacker would that work: patch-2.6.23-rc9-vs2.3.0-pre2.diff ?
1201185318 M * hijacker ;-)
1201185328 M * daniel_hozac we're skipping 2.6.23.
1201185330 M * Bertl hijacker: don't use 2.6.23
1201185342 M * hijacker why so ?
1201185354 M * Bertl too broken in the virtualization area
1201185362 M * hijacker ah, right
1201185365 M * mnemoc is .24 better?
1201185370 M * Bertl yep
1201185375 M * hijacker i'll go for 24 then ;-)
1201185377 M * hijacker cheers folks
1201185381 M * daniel_hozac is it really? it still feels half-baked to me.
1201185395 M * Bertl well, mainline is a lot better in 2.6.24
1201185411 M * Bertl it's not as finished as 2.6.22 of course
1201185420 M * Bertl and I would not use it near production :)
1201185448 M * sannes but, I think most production systems will stay off of 2.6.24 atleast a couple of months :P
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1201185548 M * sannes Does vserver follow git version in your private trees?
1201185597 M * Bertl no, currently only the pre releases
1201185622 M * Bertl release candidates
1201185637 M * mnemoc do you think .22 will get maintained as a long term branch by someone?
1201186120 M * Bertl you mean the Linux-VServer version or the mainline version?
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1201189575 M * mnemoc Bertl: the mainline
1201189658 M * Bertl could be, some of the older kenels are updated/maintained too, if you check
1201189675 M * Bertl okay, off for now ... bbl
1201189682 N * Bertl Bertl_oO
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1201196007 J * Flinx ~chatzilla@86.57.216.79
1201196291 M * Flinx Hi! I have 2.6.17-11-vserver-server kernel with util-vserver 0.30.210-1 installed on ubuntu 6.10.
1201196317 M * Flinx I installed guest to vserver.
1201196341 M * Flinx When i tryin to run guest i have error message about vshelper.
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1201196413 M * Flinx I tried to disable vshelper like is descripted in error message, but then i have other error message.
1201196460 M * Flinx sorry, described, not descripted 
1201196519 M * Flinx save_ctxinfo: open("/var/run/vservers/guest11"): No such file or directory
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1201197213 M * Flinx sorry, i already solved problem by purge and install vserver-debiantoold package
1201197237 M * Flinx sorry, vserver-debiantools package
1201197286 M * micah Flinx: you should remove vserver-debiantools and install a newer version of util-vserver
1201197300 M * micah Flinx: preferably 0.30.214
1201197311 M * Flinx micah: ok, thanks
1201197330 M * micah then if the problem persists, come back :)
1201197358 M * Flinx micah: thanks! :)
1201197392 M * micah flinx: good luck!
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1201197785 M * Flinx 1 more question: by-default, when creating new guest, vserver is installing `basic` set of packages and is not creating device nodes etc... I tryin to install kubuntu 7.04. It's possible to get kubuntu guest exactly ilke in case when i installing it on real pc (e.g. with all devices nodes and all packages which kubuntu is installing by default)
1201198357 J * DLange ~dlange@p57A311DD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
1201199122 M * Flinx Actually, i need to run KDE on that guest os, but i have no idea which nodes are required by X server Xorg. Can somebody help me wih this?
1201199213 M * JonB Flinx: for local viewing or remote viewing?
1201199232 M * Flinx JonB: local
1201199289 J * meagulec ~meagulec@c529c3a43.cable.wanadoo.nl
1201199328 M * Flinx JonB: I tryin to do MoreUbuntu like Soewono did ( http://oldwiki.linux-vserver.org/MoreUbuntu ). And i want to start from 1 guest OS running with KDE.
1201199429 M * JonB Flinx: did you read the homepage and the util-vserver flowerpage?
1201199560 M * Flinx JonB: Homepage of linux-vserver? Yes. Flowerpage - not. What is flowerpage?
1201199581 M * Flinx JonB: And where can i find it?
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1201199736 M * JonB Flinx: http://linux-vserver.org/Frequently_Asked_Questions#What_is_the_.22great_flower_page.22.3F?
1201199756 M * JonB remove the last "
1201199775 M * JonB Flinx: also there is a page in the FAQ about problematic programs
1201199880 M * Flinx JonB: ok, thanks. (btw: nice flower :) )
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1201201477 M * Bertl_oO Flinx: a good approach is to use 'strace -fF -o Xorg.trace Xorg' to see what your server actually needs/accesses
1201201646 M * Flinx Bertl_oO: oh, thanks. This is actually what i need (to know what Xorg requires)
1201201693 M * Bertl_oO will probably boil down to /dev/kmem, some parts of procfs (like the pci/bus data) and the typical devices, including some tty/pty
1201201737 M * Flinx Bertl_oO: But maybe there is a way to install guest in similar way like when we installing kubuntu from cd?
1201201763 M * Flinx Bertl_oO: With install menu etc...
1201201793 M * Bertl_oO if you find the scripts doing the installation, etc, and you manage to start it from a point where hardware related stuff is already done, why not?
1201201824 M * Bertl_oO I did that a few years ago for Mandrake, but it wasn't worth the trouble actually
1201201878 M * Flinx Bertl_oO: Hmm, i see.
1201201938 M * Flinx Bertl_oO: Currently i have "(EE) No devices detected." in /var/log/Xorg.0.log
1201202112 M * Flinx Bertl_oO: Going to run strace now. But how can i strace Xorg? I configuring pc remotely trough ssh...
1201202141 M * Bertl_oO with the line I gave you above :)
1201202164 M * Bertl_oO just make sure that either no other X server is running, or you specify a second display
1201202184 M * Bertl_oO (and strace it on the host, so that you get the trace for a working Xorg)
1201202381 J * mire ~mire@165-170-222-85.adsl.verat.net
1201202382 M * Flinx Bertl_oO: I see, i already tried. Thanks for very useful advice!
1201202597 M * Bertl_oO nap attack ... back later ...
1201202602 N * Bertl_oO Bertl_zZ
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1201205978 M * Darkglow Hi all. I moved to the backpor kernel on Etch (now running 2.6.22) to get the COW feature. Seems to work great. but a few minutes ago, my daily "hashify" script returned rename() Operation not permitted errors. Any idea what the problem is ? Does not seem to affect the vserver itself... it still runs fine...
1201206017 M * Darkglow (Ive been running the new kernel for more than 2 weeks now... and the hashify script simply runs vserver <name> hashify every day...
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1201216457 A * matti pokes hparker 
1201216459 M * matti Ops.
1201216462 A * matti pokes Hollow 
1201216463 M * matti ;d
1201216469 A * hparker feels poked
1201216471 M * Hollow dude :)
1201216475 M * matti Emm...
1201216481 M * matti ;d
1201216488 M * hparker And don't confuse me with Hollow... I'm old :P
1201216512 M * Hollow heh
1201216513 M * matti hparker: Now Hollow will be jealous ;]
1201216530 M * Hollow yeah, i want to be much older ;)
1201216530 J * nou Chaton@causse.larzac.fr.eu.org
1201216534 M * hparker Not hardly ;)
1201216568 M * matti I was thinking about me poking you by accident ;p
1201216570 M * matti ;D
1201216604 M * matti Hollow: I had some nice fun with perl today ;d
1201216630 M * Hollow eew. nasty
1201216633 M * Hollow :)
1201216635 M * hparker hehe
1201216654 M * matti Hollow: I have reference to the object, which executes some subroutine... and this subroutine will return an array of array references.
1201216684 M * matti Hollow: The question is - how to access the first element of the first array that is referenced inside returned array ;d
1201216700 M * matti Hollow: Exciting, isn't it? ;]
1201216701 M * matti ;D
1201216731 M * matti Referencing and de-referencing in perl is bizzare.
1201216734 M * Hollow almost as exciting as implementing trees in java ;)
1201216741 M * matti Almost like pointers magic in C/C++
1201216749 M * Hollow nah. that's real fun
1201216758 M * matti Hollow: I am 99% nerdy.
1201216759 M * matti ;p
1201216765 M * matti Hollow: What did you expect? ;
1201216784 M * matti :0
1201216807 M * matti Anyway... yes I am taking my medications :
1201216818 M * Hollow good boy
1201216862 M * matti ;D
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