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1201046739 J * AStorm ~astralsto@chello089077127128.chello.pl
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1201049275 J * eyck_ ERix6NkE@nat05.nowanet.pl
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1201049451 J * AStorm ~astralsto@chello089077127128.chello.pl
1201049591 J * mattzerah ~matt@121.50.222.120
1201049917 N * mattzerah mattzerah`away
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1201050471 J * Julius ~julius@p57B25465.dip.t-dialin.net
1201050809 N * mattzerah`away mattzerah
1201051397 Q * mattzerah Quit: GONE!
1201054382 Q * Julius Remote host closed the connection
1201055481 Q * click Server closed connection
1201055483 J * click click@ti511110a080-2160.bb.online.no
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1201058355 J * hparker ~hparker@linux.homershut.net
1201059828 J * hillct ~H@cpe-024-211-242-232.nc.res.rr.com
1201059839 M * hillct Good evening all
1201059928 M * hillct Is there a new version of fakepackages for FC/Centos guests, that includes a fake udev for FC7/8 ?
1201059957 M * hillct the latest fuest fakepackages I can find is 1.05 geared to FC4
1201061142 J * doener ~doener@i577AE87F.versanet.de
1201061232 M * hillct doener: hi. Long time...
1201061277 M * doener hi
1201061279 M * hillct quick question for ya. Are there updated fakepackages for FC8 gusts somewhere?
1201061295 M * hillct er guests
1201061344 A * doener is totally ignorant of fc
1201061356 M * hillct ah
1201061389 M * hillct K
1201061397 A * hillct will figure it out
1201062942 Q * mire Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1201063751 Q * tam Quit: leaving
1201063762 J * tam ~assmastr@gw.nettam.com
1201064405 J * balbir ~balbir@59.145.136.1
1201066534 M * daniel_hozac hillct: what do you need them for?
1201066559 M * hillct trying to get avoid the FC8 dependency on udev
1201066580 M * daniel_hozac but why?
1201066592 M * hillct to save space
1201067008 M * hillct it appears the dependency tree is initscrips dep udev dep MAKEDEV
1201067038 Q * nox Server closed connection
1201067039 M * hillct where initscripts wants udev >- 115-1
1201067050 J * nox ~nox@static.88-198-17-175.clients.your-server.de
1201067513 M * hillct got it working
1201067543 M * hillct it just required yanking MAKEDEV, and udev after the fact using --nodeps
1201068007 Q * jescheng Remote host closed the connection
1201068017 J * jescheng ~jescheng@proxy-sjc-2.cisco.com
1201068460 M * daniel_hozac udev is less than 1 MiB.... i think you're optimizing the wrong thing.
1201069314 M * daniel_hozac a typical f8 guest is 185 MiB. that's really not bad, IMHO.
1201069425 Q * _marv Quit: Leaving
1201069707 Q * AStorm Quit: Fighting IRC addiction, live!
1201069930 J * virtuoso ~s0t0na@ppp91-122-102-145.pppoe.avangard-dsl.ru
1201070048 Q * Punkie Quit: Punkie
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1201070427 J * sharkjaw ~gab@shell.ormset.no
1201071388 J * Slydder ~chuck@194.59.17.53
1201071412 M * Slydder morning all
1201071717 M * daniel_hozac hi
1201071835 M * Slydder find anything out about the localhost problem i had with mysql?
1201071865 M * Slydder for now i just added a second user account to allow for connections from the fqdn of the mysql server.
1201072103 J * Punkie ~Punkie@goc.coolhousing.net
1201072179 M * daniel_hozac it works fine here.
1201072211 M * Slydder strange.
1201072245 M * daniel_hozac you didn't enable CONFIG_VSERVER_AUTO_SINGLE or NXF_SINGLE_IP, did you?
1201072246 M * Slydder will be installing another guest today. once i get mail working correctly for oxee and then I will see if that happens with a normal install as well.
1201072271 M * Slydder not sure. will take a look in a bit. first gotta get my .bashrc sorted.
1201072311 M * Slydder got about 150 hosts to add to a auto-complete function so I don't have to type out the names all the friggin time. lol
1201073088 J * JonB ~NoSuchUse@kg0-128.kollegiegaarden.dk
1201073193 M * doener Slydder: what problem is that?
1201073249 J * arekm arekm@carme.pld-linux.org
1201073253 M * arekm hello
1201073295 M * doener ah, found the logs
1201073722 A * arekm wonders how roadmap for vserver 2.3 for 2.6.24 looks like?
1201074950 J * _bjh_ ~bjh@84.112.154.154
1201075840 J * ntrs ~ntrs@vs079.rosehosting.com
1201076045 J * gebura ~gebura@77.192.186.197
1201076105 M * gebura hi
1201076759 Q * Slydder Remote host closed the connection
1201077113 J * ntrs_ ~ntrs@vs079.rosehosting.com
1201077413 Q * JonB Quit: This computer has gone to sleep
1201077512 Q * ntrs Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1201078420 Q * hparker Remote host closed the connection
1201078612 M * Bertl_oO morning folks!
1201078655 M * daniel_hozac morning Bertl_oO!
1201078871 M * sannes morning :)
1201078972 J * larsivi ~larsivi@85.221.53.194
1201079276 M * hillct g'morning Bertl_oO
1201080480 M * Bertl_oO daniel_hozac: any idea where I can get a powerpc debian etch and what the arch would be called?
1201080614 M * Bertl_oO powerpc seems to be the arch name, AFAICT
1201080999 M * pmjdebruijn hi
1201081016 M * pmjdebruijn are there any up to date vserver patch for the RHEL kernel which is sort of 2.4.18?
1201081062 M * Bertl_oO no, but you can take a new kernel and run RHEL on it
1201081079 M * Bertl_oO new meaning mainline kernel like 2.6.22.16 or so
1201081095 M * pmjdebruijn yes I understand
1201081103 M * pmjdebruijn however, we using NFS, which seems rather crappy on mainline
1201081128 M * pmjdebruijn we're*
1201081139 M * Bertl_oO usually there are NFS patches available, but you might also be able to use some of the RHEL nfs patches
1201081214 M * pmjdebruijn Bertl_oO: I considered that, but there's a lot to sort out
1201081225 M * pmjdebruijn I'm currently looking at: http://client.linux-nfs.org/Linux-2.6.x/2.6.22/
1201081297 J * DLange ~dlange@p57A318D0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
1201081582 M * pmjdebruijn hmm crap, that has a lot of reject with 22.16
1201081618 J * dna ~dna@158-195-dsl.kielnet.net
1201081623 M * Bertl_oO check which version of 2.6.22 it applies to ... and add the changes/updates lateron
1201081701 M * Bertl_oO daniel_hozac: http://paste.linux-vserver.org/11684 any ideas?
1201081729 M * pmjdebruijn Bertl_oO: 2.6.22(.0) i think
1201082240 M * Bertl_oO daniel_hozac: limited it down to: /usr/sbin/vspace --new -- /bin/bash
1201082244 M * Bertl_oO Must specify at least one space; try '--help' for more information
1201083032 M * daniel_hozac Bertl_oO: yeah, i noticed that too.
1201083042 M * daniel_hozac i've put up a new tarball.
1201083052 M * daniel_hozac http://people.linux-vserver.org/~dhozac/t/uv-testing/util-vserver-0.30.215-pre2669.tar.bz2
1201083081 Q * misc-- Remote host closed the connection
1201083127 J * ViRUS ~mp@p57A6F558.dip.t-dialin.net
1201083145 J * mattzerah ~matt@121.50.222.120
1201083154 J * Slydder ~chuck@194.59.17.53
1201083200 M * Bertl_oO daniel_hozac: ah, great, will test shortly ... :)
1201083259 A * DLange suggests /nick Bertl to Bertl_oO, Bertl obviously not sleeping anymore :_) Guten Morgen!
1201083314 M * mattzerah perhaps Bertl_oO is a highly intelligent being who can type and sleep at the same time :O
1201083338 M * Bertl_oO JFYI _zZ is sleeping
1201083355 M * mattzerah hehe
1201083362 M * Bertl_oO _oO stands for Operation Octopuss ... eh, I mean, otherly occupied :)
1201083385 M * mattzerah ahh the secret has been leaked 
1201083401 M * Bertl_oO currently I'm at profoss listening to Matt Rechenburg (openQRM)
1201083405 J * jsambrook ~jsambrook@aelfric.plus.com
1201083428 P * jsambrook 
1201083579 A * DLange spots a cheap backcronym stunt. otherly occupied would be _oo not _oO. Bertl is sleeping through the session :-)
1201083616 M * Bertl_oO o_O
1201083624 M * mattzerah unless he's otherly OCUPIED!
1201083633 M * mattzerah that would be oO
1201083658 M * mattzerah but i'm not sure why he would be that loud, unless people are bugging him during the session?
1201083744 M * DLange perhaps it's O for OBESE because of all the good food at the conference. Oh wait, it's a FOSS one, na, can't be either. Not Linux cruise....
1201083746 M * mattzerah is anybody bugging you, Bertl_oO ?
1201083761 M * DLange (that's except for us) :-)
1201083801 M * mattzerah but of course
1201083814 M * mattzerah not possibly for us to bug him
1201083964 M * DLange Nah, it's Bertl_ooooh now listening to Matt, or we're at _chrrrrr now...
1201084018 M * Bertl_oO daniel_hozac: how do I redo the post install stuff on an existing guest?
1201084043 M * daniel_hozac Bertl_oO: /usr/lib*/util-vserver/distributions/<dist>/initpost /etc/vservers/<guest> /usr/lib*/util-vserver/util-vserver-vars
1201084051 M * DLange mattzerah: You feel being ihnored, too?
1201084091 M * mattzerah naa i'm used to it - but i figure if i'm annoying enough i'll be rememberd :)
1201084136 M * Bertl_oO daniel_hozac: I now get vattribute: vc_set_ccaps(): Interrupted system call
1201084180 M * daniel_hozac Bertl_oO: hmm, interesting. alternative syscall problems?
1201084201 M * Bertl_oO could be, how to change it for testing?
1201084249 M * daniel_hozac --disable-alternative-syscalls
1201084475 J * gdistasi ~gdistasi@143.225.229.142
1201084589 M * Bertl_oO daniel_hozac: http://paste.linux-vserver.org/11685 (with --disable-alternative-syscalls, on powerpc)
1201084622 M * Bertl_oO maybe a problem with my headers?
1201084654 M * daniel_hozac wow. no, it's just me that sucks :
1201084654 M * daniel_hozac )
1201084749 M * daniel_hozac http://svn.linux-vserver.org/projects/util-vserver/changeset/2671
1201084867 M * pmjdebruijn http://pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org/53145/
1201084872 M * pmjdebruijn Should that merge be correct?
1201084878 A * pmjdebruijn isn't a kernel hacker....
1201084914 M * Bertl_oO hehe, what _did_ you merge there? :)
1201084992 N * mattzerah mattzerah`afk
1201085129 M * Bertl_oO hmm, something with the svn web interface seems fishy
1201085140 M * pmjdebruijn a reject between vs2.2.0.6 and http://client.linux-nfs.org/Linux-2.6.x/2.6.22/linux-2.6.22-NFS_ALL.dif
1201085161 M * Bertl_oO daniel_hozac: I got the patch from that page (bottom link) but it doesn't apply, no problem to apply it manually though
1201085185 M * daniel_hozac -p2?
1201085195 M * Bertl_oO yep, doesn't work here
1201085211 M * daniel_hozac that is odd.
1201085858 Q * gdistasi Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1201085899 J * JonB ~NoSuchUse@130.227.63.19
1201085980 J * gdistasi ~gdistasi@143.225.229.142
1201086454 Q * mattzerah`afk Quit: GONE!
1201086455 M * Bertl_oO daniel_hozac: hmm, disabling the alt-syscall seems to work for the vattribute, but the post-install script is hogging cpu right after 'Removing any system startup links for /etc/init.d/urandom' in the vserver binary
1201086505 M * Bertl_oO doing the following over and over again:
1201086506 M * Bertl_oO rt_sigprocmask(SIG_SETMASK, [], NULL, 8) = 0
1201086506 M * Bertl_oO rt_sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK, [CHLD], [], 8) = 0
1201086556 M * daniel_hozac Bertl_oO: yeah... i'm still tracking that down.
1201086585 M * daniel_hozac hehehe
1201086610 M * Bertl_oO also, it seems that the install source/url got lost for /etc/apt/sources.list ?
1201086733 Q * gdistasi Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1201086733 M * daniel_hozac hmm, the initpost script writes a deb-src line to it at least.
1201086752 M * Bertl_oO yes, line is there, but it has / as url
1201086766 M * Bertl_oO which gives a funny message from vapt-get :)
1201086860 M * daniel_hozac is that true for the deb line too?
1201086882 M * Bertl_oO yes, and it also complains about the deb-src line, not sure why
1201086892 M * Bertl_oO (even after fixing the url there :)
1201086904 M * daniel_hozac ah, this is on the guest where you ran initpost manually?
1201086918 M * Bertl_oO yep, correctly (and only half way through :)
1201086919 J * dna_ ~dna@227-209-dsl.kielnet.net
1201086943 M * Bertl_oO what should the sources.list contain in a correctly setup guest?
1201086972 M * daniel_hozac deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ etch main
1201086976 M * daniel_hozac deb-src http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ etch main
1201086990 M * daniel_hozac deb http://security.debian.org etch/updates main
1201087040 M * Bertl_oO ah, okay, tx, so etch was lost there too, probably because of the half-way through install
1201087066 M * Bertl_oO okay, off for lunch now .. bbl
1201087068 M * daniel_hozac nah, it's the downside of running it manually.
1201087081 M * daniel_hozac it expects MIRROR and DISTRIBUTION to exist in the environment.
1201087327 Q * dna Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1201087469 J * virtuoso_ ~s0t0na@ppp91-122-186-37.pppoe.avangard-dsl.ru
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1201088841 J * gdistasi ~gdistasi@143.225.229.142
1201088852 M * gdistasi hi there
1201088902 M * gdistasi does anybody know if vnet in planetlab could help me indentify which sliver has generated a certain packet?
1201089627 J * lilalinux ~plasma@80.69.41.3
1201089873 J * Hiaslboy ~wieser@143.224.23.204
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1201090908 J * ntrs ~ntrs@vs079.rosehosting.com
1201091068 M * pmjdebruijn btw, it sort of amazes me how crappy the vanilla linux nfs stack is
1201091135 M * JonB pmjdebruijn: me too, please make it better
1201092010 M * sid3windr =)
1201092684 Q * balbir Remote host closed the connection
1201093362 M * pmjdebruijn JonB: haha...
1201093425 M * pmjdebruijn the problem with external patches is you have to do extensive QA yourself...
1201093443 M * pmjdebruijn also
1201093452 M * pmjdebruijn we have a vserver related ""issue""
1201093452 M * JonB pmjdebruijn: are you saying you are not a top notch kernel koder?
1201093457 M * pmjdebruijn JonB: sorry :p
1201093503 M * JonB pmjdebruijn: well okay, not all can be. i cant either
1201093689 M * Bertl_oO daniel_hozac: just found that the flags&caps page refers to 'cflags' but the tools still do not check for that, correct? maybe that could be a future feature?
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1201094270 J * hparker ~hparker@linux.homershut.net
1201094276 J * mire ~mire@165-170-222-85.adsl.verat.net
1201094306 J * pmenier ~pme@LNeuilly-152-22-72-5.w193-251.abo.wanadoo.fr
1201094433 J * Aiken ~james@ppp121-45-206-209.lns1.bne1.internode.on.net
1201094498 M * Bertl_oO daniel_hozac: http://paste.linux-vserver.org/11686 what am I doing wrong here?
1201094583 Q * ||Cobra|| Remote host closed the connection
1201094674 M * pmjdebruijn http://pastebin.ca/869690
1201094694 M * pmjdebruijn is there a way to fix that?
1201094703 M * pmjdebruijn this is causing major headaches for us
1201094725 M * Bertl_oO stopped and started means?
1201094803 J * ftx ~ftx@dslb-084-062-242-177.pools.arcor-ip.net
1201094832 J * ||Cobra|| ~cob@pc-csa01.science.uva.nl
1201094857 M * pmjdebruijn Bertl_oO: /etc/init.d/{portmap,nfs-common,nfs-kernel-server} {stop,start}
1201094909 M * JonB can i store a vserver somewhere other than /var/lib/vservers in Debian? other than mounting a blockdevice somewhere?
1201094936 M * pmjdebruijn JonB: we use /opt/vservers
1201094967 M * pmjdebruijn JonB: ls -l /etc/vservers/.defaults/vdirbase
1201094972 M * JonB pmjdebruijn: i just have 1 vserver i want to store elsewhere
1201094982 M * pmjdebruijn oh
1201094989 M * JonB pmjdebruijn: and i would very much prefer to store the config files another place
1201094991 M * pmjdebruijn I think you can change the vdir seperate for one vserver
1201094996 M * pmjdebruijn huh?
1201094998 M * pmjdebruijn not in etc?
1201095008 M * pmjdebruijn that'll probably be hard
1201095021 M * JonB let me explain the setup
1201095040 M * Bertl_oO pmjdebruijn: on the host?
1201095066 M * JonB pmjdebruijn: i have 2 vserver hosts. One is in usage, the other is offsite and it syncs once a day all data. The idea is to have a speedy recovery should something happen
1201095091 M * JonB pmjdebruijn: at the moment i just sync everything in /etc/vservers to the backup
1201095110 M * JonB pmjdebruijn: but now i want to run a vserver guest on the remote machine to run smokeping
1201095833 M * pmjdebruijn Bertl_oO: y
1201095844 M * pmjdebruijn Bertl_oO: sorry.... yes on the host (not the vservers)
1201095869 M * Bertl_oO pmjdebruijn: well, first, that should not happen with proper nfs setup, but if that happens, you have to do the same mount inside the guest too
1201095888 M * pmjdebruijn JonB: you can sync /etc/vservers and /var/lib/vserver and just creating a seperate vserver for smokeping purposes?
1201095891 M * pmjdebruijn would that be easier
1201095931 M * pmjdebruijn Bertl_oO: we're not mounting anything inside the vservers as of yet
1201095940 M * pmjdebruijn everything is done before the vserver is started
1201095955 M * Bertl_oO pmjdebruijn: but the guest is inheriting that mount from the host
1201095962 M * pmjdebruijn Bertl_oO: indeed
1201095968 M * Bertl_oO pmjdebruijn: and it will still have the old non-working mount
1201095976 M * pmjdebruijn probably yes...
1201095991 M * Bertl_oO pmjdebruijn: solution: enter the guest namespace (not the entire guest), and redo the mount there
1201095994 M * pmjdebruijn start/stop does fix it on the host, but the mount remains borked in the vserver
1201096002 Q * zLinux Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1201096009 M * pmjdebruijn Bertl_oO: the guest doesn't even see the mount
1201096020 M * Bertl_oO trust me, the guest namespace does :)
1201096021 M * pmjdebruijn but we're considering doing the mount from inside the vserver
1201096040 M * Bertl_oO check with 'vnamespace .. --enter' and /proc/mounts
1201096228 M * JonB pmjdebruijn: yes, but i sync with rsync --delete, so it would remove everything not at the main server
1201096228 M * pmjdebruijn /proc/mounts does list it.... 'mount' doesn't
1201096239 M * pmjdebruijn JonB: consider unison for example?
1201096282 M * Bertl_oO pmjdebruijn: well, mount in this regard is very similar to cat :) it shows you only the contents of /etc/mtab :)
1201096282 J * Julius ~julius@p57B27966.dip.t-dialin.net
1201096311 M * JonB pmjdebruijn: unison seems promissing
1201096562 M * pmjdebruijn hmmm "Unknown bcap 'CAP_SYS_ADM'"
1201096575 M * Bertl_oO typo?
1201096735 J * balbir ~balbir@122.167.98.14
1201096919 Q * ntrs Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1201097008 M * pmjdebruijn do I need to enable a certain kernel option for CAP_SYS_ADM?
1201097040 M * Bertl_oO nah, you just need to write it correctly i.e. CAP_SYS_ADMIN (and you usually don't want to give that to a guest, btw :)
1201097051 M * Bertl_oO http://linux-vserver.org/Capabilities_and_Flags
1201097104 M * pmjdebruijn oh
1201097116 M * pmjdebruijn http://linux-vserver.org/Frequently_Asked_Questions#How_do_I_handle_NFS_mounts_within_in_a_guest.3F
1201097122 M * pmjdebruijn is says ADM
1201097124 M * pmjdebruijn it*
1201097126 M * pmjdebruijn damnit
1201097133 M * Bertl_oO well, as I said, you don't want to give that
1201097134 A * pmjdebruijn has a lot of typos
1201097161 M * pmjdebruijn Bertl_oO: I'm doing research, this is not a production machine
1201097170 M * Bertl_oO np
1201097233 M * JonB pmjdebruijn: unison does not seem to update all file permissions, which i want
1201097510 M * pmjdebruijn ok
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1201097717 J * ntrs ~ntrs@vs079.rosehosting.com
1201098315 J * doener_ ~doener@i577B9980.versanet.de
1201098322 J * balbir ~balbir@122.167.116.196
1201098536 J * marcel ~marcel@wc-50.r-195-35-150.atwork.nl
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1201098836 J * dowdle ~dowdle@scott.coe.montana.edu
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1201099015 J * zLinux ~zLinux@88.213.27.186
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1201099599 J * mstrobert ~mstrobert@wkstn.wycliffe.ca
1201099629 J * ftx ~ftx@dslb-084-060-210-215.pools.arcor-ip.net
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1201101253 J * jsambrook ~jsambrook@aelfric.plus.com
1201101298 P * jsambrook 
1201101322 J * FireEgl FireEgl@4.0.0.0.1.0.0.0.c.d.4.8.0.c.5.0.1.0.0.2.ip6.arpa
1201101446 M * pmjdebruijn uhr
1201101471 M * pmjdebruijn I think I just started my vserver without CAP_SYS_ADMIN, and I'm still able to mount nfs in my vserver, is that possible, or am I on crack?
1201101549 J * ntrs__ ~ntrs@vs079.rosehosting.com
1201101926 M * cehteh add the nefs mount to the vserver specific fstab dont give cap_sys_admin
1201101936 M * cehteh mhm .. but nfs .. thinking .. 
1201101940 M * cehteh pita 
1201101985 J * AStorm ~astralsto@l15.iem.pw.edu.pl
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1201102677 J * hparker ~hparker@linux.homershut.net
1201102719 M * daniel_hozac Bertl_oO: hmm, i don't see why vclone would get upset about that...
1201102753 M * daniel_hozac it should just be a warning.
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1201103534 J * jsambrook ~jsambrook@aelfric.plus.com
1201103855 M * cehteh hum .. tryin a suid cgi (C/binary) to execute as a special user wich seems not to work
1201103864 M * cehteh is that prevented by vserver or what?
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1201103897 M * daniel_hozac no.
1201104187 M * cehteh mhm
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1201107415 J * gdistasi_ ~gdistasi@83.224.179.169
1201107514 J * larsivi ~larsivi@144.84-48-50.nextgentel.com
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1201107957 J * daccman ~ken@bas1-barrie18-1242466952.dsl.bell.ca
1201108000 M * daccman hello is anbody around
1201108052 M * cehteh somewhat
1201108120 M * daccman lol thanks for the response
1201108131 M * daccman you all must be asleep
1201108210 M * daccman I have setup a new vserver on a remote linux FC4 box I need some help with getting the internet to see the web server on the vserver
1201108249 M * daccman I wonder if anyone might be able to help me, I think I have some of it figured out but not completely sure
1201108475 M * daccman I have looked at the faq as well, but I am not sure if I have it right so just a little help will go a long way
1201108815 M * daccman here is the scenerio, I have a remote dedicated FC4 box ip 72.55.xx.xx it is working with no problems, has a web server running on it already on port 80. I want to run a virtual server for hosting purposes, I have installed vserver with a guest os FC5 cause I am familliar with the directory and filesystems. I have setup a dummy0:1 for interface for vserver, the ip I am trying to use is 192.168.1.1....But having major issues trying to con
1201108989 J * gdistasi__ ~gdistasi@143.225.229.142
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1201109348 M * hillct Good morning all
1201109385 M * hillct I'm having a problem with vrpm. I get the following (aparent) selinux error:
1201109389 M * hillct vrpm stdscoop.scoophost.com -- -Uvh vps/vps-dev-3.999-3.cru.noarch.rpm/etc/security/selinux/file_contexts: No such file or directoryerror: open of vps/vps-dev-3.999-3.cru.noarch.rpm failed: No such file or directory
1201109421 M * hillct and yes, I've confirmed the rpm is at the specified location on the host
1201109437 M * hillct and neither the host or guest have selinux enabled
1201109548 J * gdistasi_ ~gdistasi@83.224.195.85
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1201110111 M * daccman hello is anybody here to answer questions???????????
1201110298 M * mnemoc daccman: set up an SNAT as when you have servers on a DMZ
1201110337 Q * marcel Remote host closed the connection
1201110350 M * mnemoc daccman: it's also a good idea to setup pound as reverse proxy in the host (imo)
1201110496 J * Punkie ~punkie@home.pekelny.net
1201110578 J * JonB ~NoSuchUse@kg0-128.kollegiegaarden.dk
1201110640 M * daccman thankyou for the response how do I go about doing that in the iptables I beleive but what is the command still failry new to linux
1201110899 M * daccman this was the command that I used to do that ( iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -s 192.168.1.0/24 -d ! 192.168.1.0/24 -j SNAT --to-source 72.55.xx.xx) I can ping through to the out side world, but I think there is another step here I am missing.
1201110974 M * mnemoc daccman: instead of using -d ! use -o
1201111034 M * mnemoc daccman: if you want to let please go in you need a DNAT on PREROUTING
1201111045 M * mnemoc s/please/people/
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1201111214 J * jescheng ~jescheng@proxy-sjc-2.cisco.com
1201111396 M * daccman I redid the command with the -o but I get this error now Warning: wierd character in interface `192.168.1.0/24' (No aliases, :, ! or *)
1201111483 M * mnemoc -o eth0
1201111499 M * daccman ok let me try that
1201111520 J * AStorm ~astralsto@chello089077127128.chello.pl
1201111595 M * daccman here is my modified command but I must be doing something wrong iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -s 192.168.1.0/24 -o eth0 192.168.1.0/24 -j SNAT --to-source 72.55.140.235
1201111923 J * Punkie ~punkie@home.pekelny.net
1201112225 M * daccman rather than 192.168.1.0/24 should it be 192.168.1.1 instead
1201112357 M * mnemoc iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -s 192.168.1.0/24 -o eth0 -j SNAT --to-source 72.55.140.235
1201112700 M * daccman ok i can ping through but the next step would be to open the web service ports
1201112965 M * daccman here is the command i would use next iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -s ! 192.168.1.0/24 -m tcp -p tcp --dport $EXTPORT -j DNAT --to-destination $VHOST:$INTPORT what would i replace the variables with because the main server uses 80 so i assume i would have to use 8080
1201113183 M * mnemoc daccman: a reverse proxy is a much better solution for multiple webservers
1201113412 Q * Julius Quit: Verlassend
1201113460 M * daccman one is for the vserver the other is the main - so if your suggesting a reverse proxy how would i do that
1201113885 M * mnemoc i wouldn't place any web server in the host, just a pound, and two guests
1201113917 M * mnemoc but if you want one on the host, bind it to the internal ip
1201113945 M * mnemoc that would "solve" the https problem you don't have yet
1201114075 Q * JonB Quit: This computer has gone to sleep
1201114079 A * hparker runs squid in reverse proxy in it's own guest
1201114116 M * mnemoc that's a good alternative too
1201114129 M * daccman i have the web server working ok on the host which is the main site but want to host vservers on the host, but if the vserver wants to run a web server what do i need to do
1201114154 M * hparker I run multiple guests/domains off of one IP... Sux, but my provider thinks IPs are gold plated :P
1201114191 M * hparker daccman: Your choices are run squid as a reverse proxy or use mod_proxy in apache
1201114221 M * mnemoc hparker: take a look at hetzner.de, they give you 6 IPs, no bw restrictions, and pretty good hardware for a very good price
1201114226 M * daccman lol that is what i kinda want to do but still have the main server
1201114237 M * mnemoc hparker: pound does it better ,-)
1201114242 M * hparker I forward http(s) to the guest running squid.. squid then sends the requests to the proper guest
1201114302 M * hparker mnemoc: I'm kinda liking my hosting in my basement... A lot of what I host is non-profits for free for the guy I bought the ISP from
1201114339 M * mnemoc hparker: ic :)
1201114343 M * hparker mnemoc: As for pound, never looked at it.. It's on the list though.... And a long list it is
1201114385 M * daccman ok hparker how to you have it setup from one host ip
1201114415 M * hparker daccman: Very ... uhm... interestingly :P
1201114449 M * daccman lol 
1201114487 M * hparker I have http(s) forwarded to a guest running squid in reverse proxy.. All guests are on RFC1918 IPs.. I forward all smtp to postfix.. Both of those forward to the proper guest... ssh is on all kinds of ports
1201114495 M * daccman i have a dedicated server that is remote the host but want to host vservers on it
1201114674 M * hparker I'm not sure what else to say... SNAT all outbound and forward ports inbound as needed
1201114674 J * Genghis genghis@cl-544.bru-01.be.sixxs.net
1201114711 M * daccman so i want to host vservers so wondering how you have done it
1201114726 M * hparker I just explained it :P
1201114993 M * daccman ok lets see you have you host server forward web server to guest running squid in reverse proxy. i got that but trying to figure out the commands to forward from my host to a guest vserver that is more my question is how did you do it
1201115273 Q * ftx Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1201115377 J * etteyafe1 ~etteyafed@68-113-163-245.dhcp.plt.ny.charter.com
1201115422 M * etteyafe1 So my one of my vservers is dead after a host reboot. What do I do. It was working just before the reboot.
1201115534 N * etteyafe1 etteyafed
1201115548 M * daccman hparker: sorry was on the phone at the same time did not mean to ask the same question...
1201115558 M * hparker np
1201115612 M * daccman hparker: i will look at squid and see if that will help me. you have it setup on a vserver already right?
1201115626 M * hparker Yup
1201115631 J * JonB ~NoSuchUse@kg0-128.kollegiegaarden.dk
1201115696 M * daccman ok so if my vserver is at 192.168.1.1 then How would i forward? with the iptables? if so I should have that already
1201115776 J * ftx ~ftx@dslb-084-062-237-058.pools.arcor-ip.net
1201115852 M * hparker I use iptables to forward all http(s) to the squid guest IP.. squid then redirects it to the IP of the guest the request is for
1201115928 M * daccman I beleive mnemoc had helped me with that part but not sure about the ports, he had mentioned that it might be better to use reverse proxies. I will check out squid, hparker will be here for a bit if I have a question about how to set it up with vserver i could ask you.
1201115950 M * daccman thnaks for the help so far people it really helps.
1201115963 M * mnemoc daccman: he is proposing you to use squid _as_ reverse proxy
1201116051 M * daccman yep I am checking it out because I believe I want it setup similar to what hparker has
1201116082 M * daccman thanks for the help mnemoc
1201116113 Q * JonB Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1201116117 M * etteyafed Has anyone ever heard of vservers refusing to start after a possibly unclean reboot?
1201116123 J * JonB ~NoSuchUse@kg1-68.kollegiegaarden.dk
1201116320 P * etteyafed 
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1201118130 J * ema ~ema@rtfm.galliera.it
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1201119937 M * daccman hello all
1201119998 M * daccman I tried to redo a setup of a vserver of FC5 but I can't do yum install on anything I keep getting an error
1201120105 M * daccman Cannot open/read repomd.xml file for repository: updates
1201120132 M * daccman why can't I install or update this vserver
1201120382 M * JonB have you tried with a different repository?
1201120511 M * daccman which one would I use dag or something else
1201120694 M * daccman I am getting the same thing when I enable the fedora-core.repo Cannot open/read repomd.xml file for repository: core
1201120707 M * daccman are all the mirrors down
1201120725 M * daccman or is my yum screwed up
1201120772 M * hparker Your tubes are broke
1201120788 M * daccman my tubes?
1201120807 M * hparker the internet runs on tubes.. Break them and it's ugly
1201120857 M * daccman lol trying to yum install squid but found that yum is broke
1201120920 M * daccman the FC5 vserver only comes with the basic install no yum no wget or anything so trying to install what I need onto the vserver but can't if my yum on the vserver is broke
1201120954 M * hparker I've not seen FC since FC1.. Gave up on it
1201120971 M * daccman lol what you using now 
1201121007 M * hparker gentoo
1201121038 M * hparker got tired of rpm dll hell and taking servers down to upgrade them or buying hardware to migrate to
1201121068 M * daccman my main remote server which is not in this location came with FC4 on it but I paid a full year not knowing what I was getting into. I have since learned a whole lot about FC and I thought it would be a good base to go with seeing as that is what I know
1201121231 M * daccman it has been kinda hell, my ultimate gaol here is to have the remote dedicated server hosting sites, but did not realize that alot of control panles dont run on FC so that was my first mistake, but I have the remote know so I might as well use it
1201121253 Q * JonB Quit: This computer has gone to sleep
1201121271 M * daccman so I figured I could use virtual server to put what ever linux on and work with virtual servers from there.
1201121317 M * daccman so I am trying to figure out my why my yum is broke. lol
1201121353 M * daniel_hozac FC5 is ancient. try a supported release...
1201121365 M * hparker There is that :P
1201121478 M * daccman I would like to try a better vserver os realease is there any suggestions on a different vserver os?
1201121521 M * daccman hparker are all your vservers gentoo?
1201121547 M * hparker So far
1201121587 M * daccman oh ok, so I know FC5 is old but i was using something I knew.... But any suggestions are good
1201121597 M * daniel_hozac try f7.
1201121615 M * daccman is there a fc7 version for vserver
1201121719 M * daniel_hozac i don't understand the question.
1201121742 Q * FireEgl Read error: No route to host
1201121778 M * daccman sorry I have looked all over the internet trying to find this and that to get vserver up and running and forgot I how got FC5 vserver
1201121811 M * daccman so how do I delete a vserver and start over
1201121838 M * daccman this time with a FC7 release 
1201121838 M * daniel_hozac vserver <guest> delete
1201121862 M * daccman oh wow that is easy
1201121923 M * daccman now how do I install a vserver of FC7
1201121936 Q * ema Quit: leaving
1201121936 M * mnemoc o_O
1201121949 M * daniel_hozac vserver - build --help
1201122083 M * daccman ok I am trying to remeber what I used last time for the build
1201122114 M * daccman I believe I used an exapmle from the vserver site
1201122690 J * fatgoose ~samuel@76-10-149-199.dsl.teksavvy.com
1201122705 J * derjohn_mobil ~aj@51.42.69.80.in-addr.net-lab.net
1201122733 M * daccman it appears they dont have a FC7 distro daniel_hozac
1201122750 M * daccman unless I got my build options wrong
1201122763 M * mnemoc who are they?
1201122800 M * daniel_hozac it's f7. there's no more core in 7+.
1201122874 M * daccman oh ok here is my build please tell me if I have done this wrong thanks
1201122893 M * daccman vserver web build -m yum --hostname=asibikaashi.com --interface web0=eth0:192.168.0.1/24 -- -d f7
1201122945 M * daniel_hozac should be fine...
1201122993 M * daccman ok I will try
1201123034 M * daccman nope no distro for f7 iether
1201123050 M * daccman maybe they don't have one for f7
1201123117 M * daniel_hozac i'd repeat mnemoc's question, but it's just a couple of lines up...
1201123145 J * ntrs_ ~ntrs@vs079.rosehosting.com
1201123244 Q * DLange Quit: Bye, bye. Hasta luego.
1201123273 M * daccman sorry what I meant was F7 has a realease but I am getting the error ERROR: Can not find configuration for the distribution 'f7';
1201123296 M * daniel_hozac which means you're using old utils
1201123332 M * daccman oh uhmmmm, which utils should I be using
1201123341 J * dna__ ~dna@227-209-dsl.kielnet.net
1201123341 Q * derjohn_mobil Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1201123342 M * daniel_hozac the latest?
1201123370 M * mnemoc *G*
1201123443 M * daccman ok i will need to download the latest util and try again
1201123480 J * Aiken ~james@ppp59-167-109-167.lns3.bne1.internode.on.net
1201123582 Q * ntrs__ Ping timeout: 480 seconds
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1201123752 Q * dna_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1201124007 J * derjohn_mobil ~aj@e180199242.adsl.alicedsl.de
1201124072 J * yarihm ~yarihm@84-75-103-252.dclient.hispeed.ch
1201124164 M * daccman where do i get the newest utils
1201124288 M * daniel_hozac linux-vserver.org
1201124521 M * daccman found it will be back
1201124984 N * Bertl_oO Bertl
1201125021 M * Bertl evening folks! this time from austria :)
1201125055 M * daniel_hozac ah, you're back already? how was profoss?
1201125072 M * Bertl it was very interesting and a lot of fun!
1201125106 M * Bertl there should be some kind of video footage of it (somewhere)
1201125140 M * Bertl I was facing at least two cameras :)
1201125140 M * daniel_hozac heh
1201125201 M * daccman ok daniel_hozac I updated my util and still same error
1201125213 M * daniel_hozac then you didn't update it.
1201125220 M * daniel_hozac 0.30.214 supports f7.
1201125246 M * daccman yep I downloaded the tar.bz untarred make then make install
1201125260 M * daccman that should update it right?
1201125276 M * daniel_hozac only if you configured it with the same paths as your current install...
1201125279 M * daccman that is the release i have
1201125279 M * Bertl daccman: well, could have installed a completely separate version in /usr/local (the default) too
1201125329 Q * larsivi Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1201125359 M * daccman oh wait I think I know what I might have done, one sec
1201125540 M * daccman I installed the 0.30.211 version by yum so I had to remove that first I guess before adding the other
1201125831 M * daccman yum I guess preconfigures where the utils are installed I had to re make and install before I think it will work
1201125845 M * daccman then will try again....lol
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1201127559 Q * derjohn_mobil Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1201127752 M * daccman ok I have gotten stuck now I am getting an error that says /usr/sbin/vserver: No such file or directory I know I need to link dir somehow but from where
1201127824 M * daccman and Bertl was right I forgot to configure the prefix so I ended up with it in the /usr/local/
1201127838 M * daniel_hozac does /usr/local/sbin/vserver work?
1201127851 M * daccman let me see
1201127907 M * daccman seems to be doing something now
1201127974 M * daccman hopefully thats it I would just have to link the to with a sym link right?
1201128030 M * daniel_hozac no, you'd have to make your shell forget about /usr/sbin/vserver.
1201128061 M * daccman yep it is installing the new vserver whew good I really appreciate all the help people.
1201128382 M * daccman ok how do I do that
1201128447 M * daccman because it gave me errors building as well it was looking for the vserver helper in sbin as well
1201128504 M * daniel_hozac /usr/local/etc/init.d/util-vserver start
1201128603 M * daccman but will that make the shell forget or is that just to start the vserver I need the shell to forget about /sbin/vserver
1201128685 M * daniel_hozac that'll tell the kernel to use /usr/local/sbin/vshelper.
1201128701 M * daniel_hozac how to make the shell forget depends on the shell, obviously.
1201128732 M * hparker Or not :P
1201128774 M * daccman but if I try to do a build after that it still give me an error /usr/sbin/vserver: No such file or directory
1201128807 M * daccman but would I not be able to link the two together
1201128962 M * daniel_hozac it's completely unnecessary.
1201129091 M * daccman so how can i fix this error since I am used to doing vserver right from the shell
1201129104 M * daniel_hozac man <shell>
1201129144 M * daccman hey I know I am a pain but I really do appreciate all the help 
1201129171 M * Bertl daccman: best to log out and logon again, then it should be fine :)
1201129204 M * daccman oh ok will try that thanks Bertl
1201129295 M * daccman Thanks that really worked thaks I will keep that ion mind the next time
1201129320 J * dna ~dna@227-209-dsl.kielnet.net
1201129329 M * Bertl of course, flushing the shell cache would have done the same
1201129390 M * daccman oh ok, I am really sorry I am still kinda new with linux but I am getting better with it the more I use it
1201129413 M * Bertl no problem
1201129416 M * daccman But forget some of the easier things sometimes
1201129521 M * daccman Bertl not sure if you have read what I am ultimately trying to do and why I am actually in the irc channel pestering (you might call it
1201129544 M * daccman but trying to get vserver working for me for hosting vservers
1201129600 M * Punkie I have a question,if I use flag VIRT_CPU, should I see in guest e.g. in top Cpu % usage only for quest..or for whole server?
1201129702 Q * dna__ Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1201129753 M * daniel_hozac virt_cpu is unimplemented at this time.
1201129825 M * Punkie but it was implemented, or I am wrong...and have bad memory? :)
1201129866 M * daniel_hozac AFAIK, it has never been implemented.
1201129896 M * daccman Bertl this is the command I gave to install yum on the vserver and this is the error I got vyum gast -- install yum (Error: Cannot find a valid baseurl for repo: fedora
1201129918 M * Punkie oki :), so I remember it wrong..thanks a lot
1201129983 M * daccman gast is the vserver
1201129996 M * daniel_hozac daccman: most likely means you didn't setup networking for the guest yet.
1201130041 M * daccman ok I will try setting that up first and see if that works
1201130371 J * derjohn_mobil ~aj@80.69.46.102