1199923417 Q * jescheng Remote host closed the connection
1199923428 J * jescheng ~jescheng@proxy-sjc-1.cisco.com
1199924001 Q * jescheng Remote host closed the connection
1199924011 J * jescheng ~jescheng@proxy-sjc-1.cisco.com
1199927971 Q * ViRUS Quit: Leaving
1199931277 M * Bertl okay, off to bed now ... have a good one everyone!
1199931282 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ
1199933667 Q * mire Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1199936472 J * Aiken_ ~james@ppp121-45-224-26.lns1.bne4.internode.on.net
1199936599 Q * Aiken Read error: Operation timed out
1199938054 Q * derjohn Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1199938055 J * derjohn ~derjohn@dslb-084-058-193-188.pools.arcor-ip.net
1199938418 Q * larsivi Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1199938544 J * larsivi ~larsivi@144.84-48-50.nextgentel.com
1199938900 J * Aiken__ ~james@ppp121-45-194-143.lns1.bne1.internode.on.net
1199939220 Q * Aiken_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1199942014 Q * dowdle Remote host closed the connection
1199944836 Q * jescheng Remote host closed the connection
1199944848 J * jescheng ~jescheng@proxy-sjc-1.cisco.com
1199945382 J * balbir_ ~balbir@122.167.92.65
1199945814 Q * balbir Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1199945874 Q * balbir_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1199946039 J * sharkjaw ~gab@shell.ormset.no
1199948418 J * balbir_ ~balbir@59.145.136.1
1199949523 Q * daniel_hozac Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1199950208 J * gebura ~gebura@77.192.186.197
1199950535 J * lilalinux ~plasma@dslb-084-058-193-188.pools.arcor-ip.net
1199950724 J * JonB ~NoSuchUse@kg1-68.kollegiegaarden.dk
1199950913 M * gebura hi
1199951774 Q * JonB Quit: This computer has gone to sleep
1199953370 J * tuxbubling ~omauras@62.80.120.214
1199953374 M * tuxbubling hello
1199953416 M * tuxbubling how difficult would it be to install a different distro as guest than the hosts one?
1199953480 M * tuxbubling for example running Fedora 8 guest on a gentoo host
1199954119 J * daniel_hozac ~daniel@ssh.hozac.com
1199954156 M * tuxbubling hello daniel_hozac
1199954161 M * gebura not very difficult
1199954183 M * gebura if you have util-vserver already installed
1199954200 M * tuxbubling yes already have a gentoo guest running
1199954210 M * gebura you can check /usr/lib/util-vserver/distributions
1199954228 M * gebura there is some rules for generating other distro installation
1199954229 M * tuxbubling do i have to install yum on my gento?
1199954253 M * gebura but i think (i am not sure) you will need to install apt/rpm/deboostrap
1199954299 M * daniel_hozac yum is the only thing you need to install.
1199954304 M * daniel_hozac debootstrap is downloaded automatically.
1199954314 M * tuxbubling i wonder why it stops to fc6 template...
1199954328 M * daniel_hozac you have an old version.
1199954339 M * tuxbubling got lattest gentoo version
1199954354 M * tuxbubling 0.30.214
1199954373 M * daniel_hozac that supports f7.
1199954425 M * tuxbubling ah yes 
1199954433 M * tuxbubling gonna hack it to support f8 then
1199954435 M * tuxbubling :)
1199954449 M * tuxbubling shouldn't be that difficult
1199954450 M * daniel_hozac you could just download that...
1199954456 M * daniel_hozac but whatever floats your boat.
1199954459 M * tuxbubling oh there's some available?
1199954489 M * daniel_hozac of course.
1199954527 M * tuxbubling where? :p
1199954546 M * daniel_hozac http://svn.linux-vserver.org/svn/util-vserver/trunk/distrib/f8/
1199954564 M * tuxbubling cool
1199954597 M * tuxbubling thx
1199954632 M * tuxbubling and i should follow this guide and just replacing fc6 by f8 right?
1199954634 M * tuxbubling http://linux-vserver.org/Installation_on_Fedora
1199954637 J * dna ~dna@195-228-dsl.kielnet.net
1199954804 M * daniel_hozac for a guest install? i suppose.
1199954862 M * tuxbubling what's suppose to be in /vservers/.pkg ?
1199954892 M * daniel_hozac the external package management.
1199954922 M * tuxbubling mmmh don't have this :/
1199954979 M * daniel_hozac did you build the guest already?
1199955011 J * JonB ~NoSuchUse@kg1-68.kollegiegaarden.dk
1199955038 M * daniel_hozac /vservers/.pkg just needs to exist.
1199955078 M * tuxbubling yeah i found out
1199955090 M * tuxbubling mount: mount point /etc/rpm does not exist
1199955095 M * tuxbubling weird
1199955307 M * tuxbubling ok making the dir and running vserver .... build twice sounds to load
1199955345 M * tuxbubling mmmmh sounds like it needs rpm installed
1199955395 M * daniel_hozac yum doesn't depend on rpm on your distribution?
1199955426 M * tuxbubling actually i had rpm installed
1199955433 M * tuxbubling got an error from yum :(
1199955468 M * tuxbubling http://pastebin.org/14823
1199955518 M * daniel_hozac your yum looks pretty broken.
1199955534 M * tuxbubling well the yum provided by gentoo actually
1199955537 M * tuxbubling ...
1199955551 M * tuxbubling gonna try by hand
1199955744 M * tuxbubling doesn't help neither
1199955755 J * pmenier ~pme@LNeuilly-152-22-72-5.w193-251.abo.wanadoo.fr
1199955857 M * tuxbubling http://pastebin.org/14825 << not really the same error
1199955999 M * daniel_hozac might be complaining about your rpm library, i suppose.
1199956056 M * tuxbubling not really fond of python btw :p
1199956100 M * daniel_hozac you know most of Gentoo's own stuff is written in Python, right?
1199956149 M * hparker heh
1199956156 M * tuxbubling yeah don't make me sad ;)
1199956186 M * tuxbubling perl ftw
1199956199 M * daniel_hozac yeah, who cares about readability!
1199956229 M * tuxbubling lol i always hear that same complaint
1199956298 M * tuxbubling coders making unreadable code doesn't mean language isn't readable ;)
1199956371 M * daniel_hozac a language that has variables name $` is readable?
1199956382 M * tuxbubling lol
1199956416 M * tuxbubling you just make readable variables ;)
1199956429 M * tuxbubling btw let's not start a language war :p
1199956471 M * daniel_hozac those are internal variables, controlling things like buffering.
1199956537 M * tuxbubling yeah i know, btw once you know them that's ok ;)
1199956654 M * tuxbubling so let's try that with a different rpm version
1199956663 M * tuxbubling don't think that could change something :/
1199956693 M * AStorm tuxbubling: sorry, perl is mostly unreadable
1199956693 J * meandtheshell ~sa@85.127.102.217
1199956699 M * AStorm all the advanced features of it are
1199956703 M * AStorm :>
1199956719 M * AStorm the finest parts are ties
1199956895 M * tuxbubling ah that's better now :)
1199957008 M * tuxbubling i mean no more py error
1199957024 M * tuxbubling ah no
1199957311 M * tuxbubling humpf
1199957676 M * tuxbubling tadam
1199957687 M * tuxbubling ok installing packages :)
1199958413 M * Hollow tuxbubling: if you managed to install f8, maybe we can fix the yum ebuild? or at least let the maintainer fixit it :P
1199958491 M * tuxbubling no no wait that doesn't yet install packages correctly :p
1199958535 M * tuxbubling Package shadow-utils needs /usr/share/man/cs/man1, this is not available. << got errors like that for almost every packages in the "core" group :(
1199958539 M * Hollow that's why i said "if" :)
1199958553 M * tuxbubling ^^
1199959175 M * sid3windr mm, pie error
1199959401 M * hparker apple pie?
1199960612 M * tuxbubling that's damn tricky :/
1199960742 M * daniel_hozac shouldn't apple pie be called iPie?
1199960776 M * AStorm nah, that's the next iPhone
1199960778 M * hparker iGuess
1199960788 M * AStorm round in shape
1199960806 M * hparker piePhone?
1199960811 M * AStorm yep
1199960834 M * AStorm iWin is probably their next OS
1199960836 J * pusling pusling@77.75.162.71
1199960994 M * JonB hparker: thats better than peePhone
1199961056 M * hparker heh
1199961240 M * sid3windr piepod :)
1199961274 J * mire ~mire@86-170-222-85.adsl.verat.net
1199961406 J * Kzim ~pego@nts2.neteyes.org
1199961408 M * Kzim hi there
1199961419 M * Kzim just a littl question about virtual interfaces
1199961431 M * AStorm JonB: PeePC? ;P
1199961510 M * Kzim i got some eth0:1 eth0:2 on my server that i rsync and use as vserver
1199961522 M * Kzim how do i conf them on the vserver please :/
1199961553 M * daniel_hozac hmm?
1199961590 M * AStorm usually, just add the vservers as the ips
1199961600 M * AStorm and disable that option that downs the interface on vserver stop
1199961616 M * AStorm you don't have to create the aliases yourself
1199961696 M * Kzim my english is bad i don't understand well. all ips must be in /etc/vservers/<hostname>/network no ?
1199961731 M * daniel_hozac the addresses assigned to the guest are in /etc/vservers/<guest>/interfaces/*/ip.
1199961739 M * tuxbubling http://pastebin.org/14839 << isn't it lovely?
1199961741 M * tuxbubling :p
1199962554 Q * daniel_hozac Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1199963051 J * daniel_hozac ~daniel@ssh.hozac.com
1199963619 Q * pusling Read error: Operation timed out
1199963654 J * pusling pusling@77.75.162.71
1199963735 Q * mire Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1199963834 Q * JonB Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1199964786 Q * Aiken__ Remote host closed the connection
1199965062 Q * hparker Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1199966081 Q * sharkjaw Quit: Leaving
1199966085 J * sharkjaw ~gab@shell.ormset.no
1199966149 Q * sharkjaw 
1199966152 J * sharkjaw ~gab@shell.ormset.no
1199966372 Q * zLinux Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1199967080 J * JonB ~NoSuchUse@192.38.8.25
1199967643 Q * daniel_hozac Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1199969807 J * hparker ~hparker@linux.homershut.net
1199969897 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl
1199969902 M * Bertl morning folks!
1199969939 M * pmenier monrning Bertl
1199970681 M * awk good afternoone
1199970737 Q * hparker Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1199970799 M * Kzim morning
1199970807 M * Kzim well it's the afternoon here but ...
1199971060 M * Bertl depends on the timezone .. BUT here :)
1199971119 M * Kzim :) btw i'm look for a guide about conf interface for the vservers :/ 
1199971139 M * Kzim virtual interface, add route etc :/
1199971164 M * Bertl no virtual interfaces, Linux-VServer does IP isolation (layer 3)
1199971167 M * micah howdy all
1199971186 M * Bertl Kzim: you can do 'per guest' routing with multiple routing tables on the host
1199971199 M * Bertl hey micah! LTNS!
1199971305 M * micah Bertl: hey! yeah, i've had bad internet connectivity :(
1199971343 M * Kzim Bertl: you have a guide for that ? you name "guest" the vservere ?
1199971386 M * Kzim im not familliard with route table :) i usually do a route add and all is ok :)
1199971394 M * Bertl we call the physical machine 'Host' and the isolated units 'Guests'
1199971427 M * Bertl basically that is the same with multiple routing tables, except for the fact that you have more than one, and rules to select between them
1199971488 M * Kzim but how do you assign one table to a guest ? with guest's ip as source ?
1199971493 M * Bertl the magic incantations are 'ip route ..' and 'ip rule ..'
1199971510 M * micah I'm trying to nail a weird network problem with one of my guests
1199971520 M * Kzim i'll google that a bit :) thank. all on the host right ?
1199971544 M * Bertl Kzim: http://linux-ip.net/gl/ip-cref/node1.html http://lartc.org/
1199971553 M * Bertl Kzim: yep, all on the host
1199971561 M * Bertl micah: let's hear ...
1199971658 M * micah Bertl: its strange... two symptoms: 1. right now I cannot ssh to the guest from the internet, ssh -v shows it connecting and just not forking a shell... if I ssh from the local lan, it works; 2. occasionally I loose ping on that guest alone
1199971690 M * micah the only thing I can think of is the address is in use somewhere else
1199971691 M * Bertl micah: did you protocol the connect with tcpdump?
1199971707 M * micah Bertl: what do you mean 'protocol the connect'?
1199971736 M * micah maybe you meant 'profile'
1199971753 M * Bertl yep, sorry, non-native english speaker in the morning :)
1199971775 M * micah hehe
1199971801 M * Bertl do you have two network cards?
1199971837 M * Bertl (in this machine and active, that is :)
1199971845 M * Kzim to add an ip on guest i just add etc/vservers/<guest>/interfaces/<+1>/dev and ip ? 
1199971847 M * micah i am looking through the tcpdump now actually
1199971852 M * micah Bertl: yeah there are two network cards
1199971862 M * micah (and active)
1199971875 M * micah Kzim: and restart the guest
1199971875 M * Bertl Kzim: yep, the <+1> can be freely chosen, and you need to restart the guest
1199971886 M * Kzim nice thanks
1199971907 Q * Hollow Remote host closed the connection
1199971912 M * Bertl micah: maybe part of your responses is going to the 'wrong' interface?
1199971921 J * Hollow ~hollow@proteus.croup.de
1199972009 M * micah Bertl: interesting idea, in fact I am seeing two deault gateways in the route table
1199972037 A * micah investigates why
1199972078 M * micah that must be the problem
1199972148 M * micah Bertl: i'm impressed! you zeroed right in :)
1199972200 M * Bertl hehe :)
1199972258 M * micah Bertl: i'm having another problem that maybe you can help me figure out: you see I'm having trouble sleeping... ;)
1199972329 M * Bertl in the discworld universe, a small sack of sand helps ... :)
1199972346 M * micah heheh
1199972502 M * Bertl micah: but actually a light form of insomnia is not that bad ... you get more work done :)
1199972507 J * zLinux ~zLinux@88.213.28.172
1199972509 J * hparker ~hparker@linux.homershut.net
1199972521 M * Bertl wb zLinux! hparker!
1199972543 M * hparker ty Bertl!
1199973197 M * Bertl okay, off for now .. bbl
1199973205 N * Bertl Bertl_oO
1199974051 Q * balbir_ Read error: Connection reset by peer
1199974787 J * mire ~mire@86-170-222-85.adsl.verat.net
1199974825 M * Kzim hum ... when i create more eth for a guest it assign adresses on the host but i'll have many guest so ... i don't get it
1199974973 Q * sharkjaw Quit: Leaving
1199975032 Q * zbyniu Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1199975109 J * doener ~doener@i577ACCB6.versanet.de
1199975527 Q * doener_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1199975628 J * zbyniu ~zbyniu@host13-188.crowley.pl
1199976229 J * ema ~ema@rtfm.galliera.it
1199977245 Q * hparker Quit: zzZzz
1199977299 J * sk_ ~sk@80.69.41.3
1199977302 J * balbir ~balbir@59.145.136.1
1199977316 M * sk_ hi all
1199977357 M * sk_ is it possible to assign a new IP to a vserver-guest without reboot of the guest?
1199977378 J * Infinito argos@201-3-115-1.gnace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br
1199977802 M * Kzim ip addr add ? :/ dunno
1199977839 M * michiel` it is possible, but I keep forgetting how
1199977885 M * michiel` "ip addr add + naddress --add will make the IP available to the guest."
1199977891 M * michiel` sk_: --^
1199978064 M * sk_ michiel`, inside the vhost? 
1199978079 M * sk_ I try it
1199978142 M * michiel` sk_: both outside the guest
1199978290 M * Kzim if all ip are assigned outside the guests how can you say what ip is at what guests ?
1199978420 M * michiel` enter the guest? :) I'm sorry, I don't know this, maybe either daniel or Bertl_oO knows this
1199978428 M * michiel` but daniel is not online right now
1199978431 M * Bertl_oO Kzim: for example, with /proc/virtnet/<nid>/
1199978488 M * Kzim okay
1199978523 M * Bertl_oO note: you can assignIPs to the guest, even if they are not configured on the host
1199978526 M * Kzim i still try to add a f** route to my host but this certainly not in touch with vserver :)
1199978547 M * Bertl_oO ip route add ... table ... (with multiple routing tables)
1199978605 M * Kzim ip addr add 192.168.250.145 brd 192.168.250.255 dev eth0 && p route add 192.168.1.0/24 via 192.168.250.1 dev eth0 -> RTNETLINK answers: Network is unreachable
1199978617 M * Kzim o my god
1199978623 M * Kzim let it down
1199978626 M * Kzim i have to sleep
1199978655 M * michiel` nn :)
1199978818 M * sk_ It works! thx
1199978913 J * Julius ~julius@p57B262BA.dip.t-dialin.net
1199979184 J * ftx__ ~ftx@dslb-084-060-251-188.pools.arcor-ip.net
1199979214 M * Bertl_oO sk_: excellent!
1199979266 M * bragon hello world
1199979278 M * bragon how can i build a debian guest in my gentoo host ?
1199979425 J * ftx_ ~ftx@dslb-084-060-233-014.pools.arcor-ip.net
1199979743 Q * ftx__ Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1199979770 M * Bertl_oO bragon: check out 'vserver - build --help'
1199979894 M * Bertl_oO something like this: vserver etch32 build -m debootstrap --context 10104 --hostname etch32.debian.org --interface eth1:10.1.4.32/24 -- -d etch -m http://ftp.debian.org/debian -- --arch i386
1199979997 J * daniel_hozac ~daniel@ssh.hozac.com
1199981196 M * bragon Bertl_oO: i just try that but it don't want to work
1199981203 M * daniel_hozac why not?
1199981280 M * bragon http://paste.geeknode.org/zhhxgy-2285
1199981297 M * bragon vserver gimli build -m debootstrap --hostname gimli -- -d etch -m ftp://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian
1199981324 M * daniel_hozac we'll need the messages above that...
1199981365 M * bragon nothing above that
1199981377 M * bragon bilbo vservers # vserver gimli build -m debootstrap --hostname gimli -- -d etch -m ftp:
1199981381 M * bragon I: Retrieving Release
1199981381 M * Bertl_oO SELinux?
1199981383 M * bragon E: Invalid Release file, no entry for main/binary-/Packages
1199981386 M * bragon chroot-sh: open("/etc/apt/sources.list"): No such file or directory
1199981389 M * daniel_hozac there you go.
1199981394 M * daniel_hozac specify an arch.
1199981400 M * bragon Bertl_oO: yes i'm using a grsec kernel
1199981409 M * bragon daniel_hozac: i try with a arch
1199981447 M * bragon same when i specify an arch
1199981469 M * daniel_hozac you can't get the same with an arch, as the arch would be in the message. what arch did you specify?
1199981479 M * bragon x86_64
1199981488 M * Bertl_oO that should be amd64
1199981498 M * Bertl_oO (debian is different :)
1199981508 Q * mnemoc Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1199981511 M * bragon right :)
1199981527 M * bragon it seems to work :)
1199981534 M * Bertl_oO congrats!
1199981541 M * bragon congrats to you !
1199981547 M * bragon thanks :)
1199981552 M * Bertl_oO you're welcome!
1199981567 M * bragon now i'm now that , i must specify the arch with debian vserver
1199981588 M * bragon and it's amd64 not x86_64
1199981740 J * dowdle ~dowdle@scott.coe.montana.edu
1199981794 Q * balbir Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1199981969 J * mnemoc ~amery@kilo105.server4you.de
1199982001 J * derjohn_mobil ~aj@80.69.42.51
1199982153 Q * __gh__ Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1199982159 Q * _gh_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1199982352 Q * gebura Quit: Quitte
1199982506 Q * JonB Quit: Leaving
1199982511 J * JonB ~NoSuchUse@192.38.8.25
1199982764 Q * derjohn_mobil Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1199982859 J * DavidS ~david@p57A48B0F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
1199982976 Q * sk_ Remote host closed the connection
1199983681 J * derjohn_mobil ~aj@80.69.42.51
1199983795 Q * Infinito Quit: Quitte
1199984058 J * Piet hiddenserv@tor.noreply.org
1199985267 F * ChanServ +o Bertl_oO
1199985317 F * Bertl_oO -o Bertl_oO
1199985346 M * daniel_hozac hmm?
1199985354 M * Bertl_oO nevermind, wrong channel :)
1199985359 M * daniel_hozac hehe, okay.
1199985386 A * dowdle checks what channels Bertl is on.
1199985394 M * dowdle Oh my god!
1199985396 M * dowdle Just kidding.
1199985429 M * Bertl_oO dowdle: don't forget to chek the various irc servers :)
1199985433 M * Bertl_oO *check
1199985456 Q * derjohn_mobil Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1199985464 M * Bertl_oO hey mnemoc! LTNS! how's going?
1199985534 M * dowdle muppet porn.  Who knew?  Prairie Dawn IS hot.  Opps wrong channel. he
1199985662 M * Bertl_oO well, you're on the internet, what did you expect?
1199985727 M * Bertl_oO http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Internet_is_for_Porn
1199985785 M * michiel` hey Bertl
1199986079 Q * DavidS Quit: Leaving.
1199986120 M * Bertl_oO michiel`: should have some time this evening, but for now, I have to leave .. bbl
1199986134 M * michiel` sure!
1199986264 J * balbir ~balbir@122.167.92.65
1199986421 J * bonbons ~bonbons@2001:960:7ab:0:2c0:9fff:fe2d:39d
1199986773 Q * Kzim Quit: Lost terminal
1199987729 J * Infinito argos@200-140-183-159.gnace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br
1199987957 Q * pmenier Quit: Konversation terminated!
1199988008 Q * jescheng Remote host closed the connection
1199988019 J * jescheng ~jescheng@proxy-sjc-1.cisco.com
1199988254 Q * Infinito Quit: Quitte
1199989022 Q * ema Quit: leaving
1199989136 J * virtuoso_ ~s0t0na@ppp91-122-24-217.pppoe.avangard-dsl.ru
1199989204 Q * mick_work Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1199989546 Q * virtuoso Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1199989557 J * ViRUS ~mp@p57A6C6A9.dip.t-dialin.net
1199989564 M * ViRUS Eyo! :)
1199989659 M * ViRUS I'm having some weird problem here. For some reason the eth0 device of all vservers went away. I don't know excactly what happened. What I basicly did was to shutdown a vserver, move away the directories and bootstrap a new one with the ip. It killed the eth0 interfaces of all vserver instances... I don't know exactly if this really caused the vservers to loose their IPs, but that might be the cause.
1199989691 M * daniel_hozac did that guest have the primary address in that network?
1199989698 M * ViRUS no
1199989705 M * mnemoc there it is the reason :)
1199989718 M * daniel_hozac what does?
1199989730 M * ViRUS I got a separate IP segment for the guests
1199989744 M * daniel_hozac so which guest has the primary?
1199989749 M * ViRUS none
1199989764 M * daniel_hozac so you gave the host an address in that segment too?
1199989774 M * ViRUS neither. ;)
1199989788 M * daniel_hozac well... you can't have your cake and eat it too.
1199989789 M * ViRUS I have 1 primary IP and a /29 segment with 6 IPs I can use.
1199989812 M * daniel_hozac one of the guests has the primary address in that second segment.
1199989839 M * daniel_hozac most likely, it was the one you stopped.
1199989909 M * ViRUS http://dpaste.com/30527/ - No it looks fine. The primary IP is completely different
1199989925 M * daniel_hozac run ip a.
1199989953 M * daniel_hozac notice the secondary for all but one guest?
1199989957 M * ViRUS btw. I might have said it a bit wrong. The hosts eth0 was still available - just all guests lost their eth0 interface. Thus ifconfig returned nothing
1199989966 M * daniel_hozac (assuming you've restarted them since)
1199989975 M * mnemoc don't use ifconfig
1199989977 M * mnemoc use ip
1199989987 M * daniel_hozac still, it wouldn't have shown anything in a guest.
1199990008 M * ViRUS I got one guest left which lost the IP
1199990030 M * bragon daniel_hozac: i don't manage to start y vserver debian on my gentoo
1199990040 M * bragon i think it is a init-style issue
1199990051 M * bragon how can i have a init-style debian on my gentoo ?
1199990052 M * daniel_hozac what initstyle did you choose? how is it not starting?
1199990088 J * FaUl immo@shell.chaostreff-dortmund.de
1199990114 M * bragon noting in /etc/vserver/namevserver/apps/init
1199990114 M * bragon can i use the init style plain ?
1199990132 M * daniel_hozac should be fine. sysv (the default) is preferred though...
1199990140 M * FaUl is there any vserver-patch for 2.6.23.*?
1199990145 M * bragon http://www.pastebin.ca/849667
1199990148 Q * lilalinux Remote host closed the connection
1199990148 M * daniel_hozac no, we're skipping 2.6.23.
1199990162 M * FaUl daniel_hozac: ok, is there any for .24.? ;-)
1199990177 M * daniel_hozac bragon: and if you touch /etc/default/rcS...?
1199990184 M * ViRUS "ip a" returns nothing on the guest
1199990187 M * daniel_hozac FaUl: yes, but it's incomplete and known-broken in a few instances.
1199990194 M * daniel_hozac ViRUS: run it on the host.
1199990208 M * FaUl daniel_hozac: ok, that isn't what i will use on a production-system ;-)
1199990220 M * daniel_hozac you know 2.6.24 isn't even released yet too, right?
1199990228 M * ViRUS daniel_hozac, http://dpaste.com/30529/
1199990236 M * daniel_hozac for production, you really want 2.6.22.
1199990249 M * FaUl daniel_hozac: btw: is there any easy way to allow all vservers access to the link-local-adress of an interface?
1199990253 M * daniel_hozac ViRUS: as i said, look for secondary. all but one guest will have it.
1199990261 M * bragon daniel_hozac: idem if i touch the files
1199990268 M * FaUl i mean ipv6 link-local
1199990288 M * ViRUS daniel_hozac, yes, one guest doesn't say "global secondary eth0" but "global eth0"
1199990289 M * daniel_hozac ViRUS: if you stop the guest that has the primary, all of them will vanish.
1199990313 M * ViRUS oh noes... how can I stop it from vanishing?
1199990313 M * daniel_hozac FaUl: you'd have to put it in interfaces/*, as always.
1199990338 M * daniel_hozac ViRUS: enable secondaries promotion, or give the host the primary.
1199990373 M * FaUl i thought on a more general way (changing mac-adresses changes the link-local-adress and thus requires fiddeling at each interfaces/*, that sucks)
1199990396 M * bragon daniel_hozac: if i start with plain init-style it work but with no network fonctionnalité :/
1199990404 M * daniel_hozac why would you need the link-local address in the guests?
1199990420 M * FaUl daniel_hozac: working arround some broken software
1199990425 M * ViRUS daniel_hozac, ah, I see. So I guess secondaries promotion is the way to go
1199990435 M * daniel_hozac bragon: and, did you configure the networking for the guest?
1199990442 M * bragon daniel_hozac: of course
1199990511 M * bragon other  gentoo guest work
1199990607 M * daniel_hozac FaUl: and fixing the broken software is not an option?
1199990631 M * bragon daniel_hozac: i made my guest with this command line :
1199990633 M * bragon http://www.pastebin.ca/849677
1199990663 M * daniel_hozac bragon: so in what way does networking not work? have you setup /etc/resolv.conf in the guest?
1199990665 M * ViRUS daniel_hozac, cool, works. :)
1199990686 M * bragon daniel_hozac: i have only on process who can start with an plain init-style
1199990688 M * bragon bash
1199990712 M * bragon 40009    1     6M   652K   0m03s38   0m04s99   0m08s64 gimli
1199990749 J * _gh_ ~gerrit@bi01p1.co.us.ibm.com
1199990752 M * daniel_hozac bragon: what?
1199990795 M * bragon hum
1199990860 M * bragon http://www.pastebin.ca/849680
1199990896 M * daniel_hozac plain init is likely failing in the same way as sysv init.
1199990902 M * ViRUS how can I re-add the IP to a guest without restarting it? is this even possible?
1199990926 M * bragon daniel_hozac: how can i start a debian with a correct init style on my gentoo so ?
1199990983 M * daniel_hozac bragon: use sysv, make it work.
1199991005 M * daniel_hozac ViRUS: you mean, re-add the IP on the host?
1199991010 M * daniel_hozac ViRUS: just run ip addr add ...
1199991129 M * bragon hum
1199991131 M * bragon ok
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1199994281 N * Bertl_oO Bertl
1199995397 J * Aiken ~james@ppp121-45-194-143.lns1.bne1.internode.on.net
1199995977 N * Bertl Bertl_oO
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1199997882 M * daniel_hozac Bertl_oO: hmm, i don't think i showed you: http://people.linux-vserver.org/~dhozac/p/k/delta-sock-include01.diff
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1199998788 M * mstrobert_ 900 more seconds until UNIX time reaches 1200000000.
1199998875 M * michiel` :)
1199999153 M * arachnis1 mstrobert_: what timezone?
1199999165 M * arachnis1 besides
1199999166 M * arachnis1 `--> date +%s
1199999166 M * arachnis1 1199999156
1199999191 M * mstrobert_ arachnis1: UTC
1199999200 M * arachnis1 i'm in CET now
1199999201 M * mstrobert_ arachnis1: and my clock was originally wrong :)
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1199999330 M * daniel_hozac timezones don't matter for UNIX epochs.
1199999336 M * daniel_hozac that's kind of the point ;)
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1200000012 M * mstrobert__ Happy UNIX time 1200000000 !
1200000034 M * michiel` you too mstrobert__ 
1200000047 M * mstrobert__ thank you.
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1200007395 M * Bertl_oO daniel_hozac: hey cool! good work!
1200007405 N * Bertl_oO Bertl
1200007418 M * Bertl seems I was missing the obvious!
1200007548 M * daniel_hozac i'm looking at the plain init thing now... the reason you don't get a listing of /proc in the guest is the vx_map_pid in pid_nr_ns (called from next_tgid). it just iterates infinitely, since find_ge_pid finds the init process, pid gets rewritten to 1, etc.
1200007612 M * daniel_hozac that's fixable with a vx_rmap_tgid and a vx_map_tgid in proc_pid_fill_cache, however, i don't see /proc/1 in the listings. accessing it directly works fine though.
1200007615 M * daniel_hozac any ideas?
1200007640 M * Bertl hmm, let me check my notes on the port ... sec
1200007883 M * Bertl my notes suggest to have a vx_find_proc_task_by_pid() with special conversion and use that instead of find_task_by_pid_ns() there
1200007924 M * Bertl let me have a look at the actual code ...
1200008214 M * Bertl hmm, shouldn't testme.sh test this case too?
1200008313 M * daniel_hozac it doesn't check /proc.
1200008365 M * Bertl okay, what is your simplest test command (yet)?
1200008415 M * daniel_hozac chcontext --xid 100 --flag fakeinit -- sleep 60 & chcontext --xid 100 -- ls -l /proc
1200008508 M * Bertl chcontext --xid 100 --flag fakeinit -- ls -l /proc (seems sufficient for the bug, yes?)
1200008523 M * daniel_hozac heh, you're right.
1200009153 M * Bertl okay, let's talk about the intended behaviour first 
1200009175 M * Bertl we want to get a 'proper' pid sequence with next_tgid()
1200009213 M * Bertl with plain init but without fakeinit, this is already true
1200009241 M * Bertl with blend through init, it should be fine too, yes?
1200009246 M * daniel_hozac yeah, it is.
1200009285 M * Bertl okay, so in the fake + plain init case, we actually would like to start at the init pid and work through the list from there, no?
1200009295 M * daniel_hozac hmm, not necessarily.
1200009357 M * daniel_hozac or rather, i think that would add unnecessary complications.
1200009374 M * Bertl well, for the sake of readdir I would say yes, but okay, let's ignore the order for now
1200009381 M * daniel_hozac right
1200009416 M * Bertl the problem is clearly (as you pointed out) caused by the find_ge_pid() start condition
1200009427 Q * _gh_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1200009446 M * Bertl so we want to keep find_ge_pid() running on real pids instead of remapped
1200009449 M * waldi hmm, is the control group support in .24-rcX already usable?
1200009461 M * Bertl waldi: usable for what?
1200009486 J * FireEgl FireEgl@4.0.0.0.1.0.0.0.c.d.4.8.0.c.5.0.1.0.0.2.ip6.arpa
1200009504 M * waldi scheduler task grouping?
1200009522 J * bardia ~bardia@lnc.usc.edu
1200009528 M * daniel_hozac that might work.
1200009535 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: we have 9 callers of pid_nr_ns() in the kernel, of which about 3 need the actual pid
1200009558 M * Bertl waldi: it's a separate option and gives you 'fair' scheduling across groups
1200009572 M * Bertl welcome bardia!