1198886435 M * jkl nice. Basically, I'd like to have azureus running in a guest at all times, and I'd like to be able to connect to it from time to time - I have a feeling I'll need vnc-server for that
1198886512 M * Bertl_oO yep, but works fine (vnc) on a guest without any changes
1198886731 M * jkl cool, I'll give it a shot
1198886748 M * jkl xephyr looks like it might do nicely as well
1198887437 M * yarihm iäve a strange problem with a customer here. he probably overdid it in his vserver but i cannot for the sake of my life kill the spamc he spawned
1198887472 M * yarihm the vserver foo stop ran through but it left a list of processes ... vps says that there is a spamc-process left
1198887479 M * yarihm i just can't kill it
1198887546 M * yarihm vkill --xid 1102 -s 9 14465
1198887558 M * yarihm vps aux | grep netixit still gives that line:
1198887559 M * yarihm 1000     14465  1102 netixit        0.0  0.0      0     0 ?        D    Dec28   0:00 [spamc]
1198887644 M * Bertl_oO okay, off to bed now ... have a good one everyone!
1198887653 N * Bertl_oO Bertl_zZ
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1198916713 J * JonB ~NoSuchUse@0x535f65c3.kjnxx7.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk
1198917692 J * rgl ~rgl@84.90.10.245
1198917696 M * rgl helloooo
1198917719 M * JonB hey rgl 
1198917740 J * dna ~dna@p54BCF2CB.dip.t-dialin.net
1198917799 M * rgl you guys know if a DNS query can contain multiple questions?  say, two questions: example.com NS and example.com A.
1198917812 M * rgl (in the same DNS packet)
1198917822 M * JonB i dont know. Read the RFC?
1198917919 M * rgl I've read.  the DNS packet can contain multiple questions like that, though, when I send the packet I get a Format error.
1198917942 M * JonB the server might not support it
1198917983 M * rgl its the most popular one, bind hehe
1198918002 M * JonB i dont know if bind can
1198918012 M * JonB or if it is a configure option
1198918035 M * JonB does it answer both requests if you only send one at a time
1198918045 M * rgl it does
1198918045 M * JonB and why would you send 2 requests?
1198918191 M * rgl I need to known the SOA, A and NS records of some domain, so I was expecting to send a packet with the these questions.
1198918232 M * JonB do you really generate your own packets?
1198918242 M * JonB cant you just ask for any kind of information?
1198918362 M * rgl yes, I'm generating the packets myself.
1198918381 M * JonB how did you figure out how to generate them?
1198918394 M * rgl this is for troubleshooting dns problems, plus, I want to get into the inner works of dns.
1198918412 M * rgl I've read the RFCs.
1198918452 M * rgl its a somewhat simple protocol.  you just have 5 or so packets that matter.
1198918463 M * JonB okay
1198918645 M * JonB well, next step must then be to verify that bind supports multiple questions
1198918832 M * rgl indeed :D
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1198922104 Q * JonB 
1198922417 M * Guy- rgl: if you need different record types of the same domain, why don't you set the querytype to ANY?
1198922452 M * rgl Guy-, I could.  but I'm puzzled why is this not working *G*
1198922491 M * Guy- fwiw, I've never seen any dns query tool generate a request with a multiline question section
1198922530 M * Guy- (which is not saying it can't work, but is it really worth the effort?)
1198922566 M * rgl Guy-, maybe its not worth the effort, but at this point I have to known why hehe
1198922591 M * Guy- ah, hack value. OK :)
1198922895 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl
1198922904 M * Bertl morning folks!
1198923343 M * bXi_ morning Bertl 
1198923358 M * bXi_ whats the best filesystem to use for a dedicated vserver partition?
1198923412 M * Bertl a question of religion :) personally I prefer ext2/3 because it is well tested 
1198923424 M * bXi_ so it doesnt really matter much
1198923430 N * DoberMann[ZZZzzz] DoberMann
1198924500 M * Bertl well, we know you might have problems with jfs and xfs, and everybody knows that reiserfs is different, vfat and ntfs are not supported anyway ....
1198924542 M * Bertl rest are cluster or CD/DVD filesystems, so not really an option
1198924552 M * bXi_ ntfs not ?
1198924558 M * bXi_ awww :( :p
1198924563 M * bXi_ i made it ext3
1198924612 M * bXi_ how do i move all data from /vservers to /tempvservermount without destroying any symlinks?
1198924739 M * Bertl probably rsync is a good choice
1198924765 M * Bertl rsync -axHPSD --numeric-ids
1198924788 M * Bertl but on ext3, dump/restore is an option too
1198924796 M * bXi_ old partition is xfs
1198924810 J * bonbons ~bonbons@2001:960:7ab:0:2c0:9fff:fe2d:39d
1198924888 M * bXi_ but rsync it is
1198925117 M * bXi_ only 363034 files
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1198926401 J * yarihm ~yarihm@84-75-119-160.dclient.hispeed.ch
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1198927292 M * rgl Guy-, I've dig into the bind source and have found the code that really checks if there are multiple questions inside a DNS query :-/
1198927475 M * Bertl and it denies such requests?
1198927686 M * bXi_ woot
1198927702 M * bXi_ dedicated 40gb partition for my vservers
1198927717 M * Bertl congrats! :)
1198927743 M * bXi_ on software raid1
1198928052 M * bXi_ CRAP
1198928076 M * Bertl hmm?
1198928084 M * bXi_ forgot to make an extended partition
1198928091 M * bXi_ hda4 == primary
1198928101 M * bXi_ now i have 120gb of unusable space
1198928160 M * Bertl that's tricky ... I'd suggest to exten the partition to the end and use lvm to map the rest
1198928180 M * rgl Bertl, yes, bind does deny them with "format error"
1198928201 M * Bertl yeah, isc bind is special, in many ways :(
1198928277 M * rgl but I'm not sure if the RFC really denies this behavior, because there is this draft https://datatracker.ietf.org/drafts/draft-ietf-dnsext-edns1/  that says "... and the ability to ask multiple questions in a single request."
1198928325 M * rgl which seems to infer that only EDNS1 will allow multiple questions inside a query.
1198928515 M * bXi_ luckily its software raid so i can throw 1 partition offline without affecting running vservers
1198928576 M * Bertl bXi_: yes, you can do that and move everyything over once again
1198928816 M * bXi_ nah the other partition is still up and running
1198928822 M * bXi_ so no need to move anything now
1198928829 M * bXi_ i'll just add the new partition to the raid
1198928901 M * Bertl (which means, that you will move everything over :)
1198928927 M * bXi_ well not manually :)
1198928933 M * bXi_ md3 : active raid1 hda5[2] hdc1[1] 39061952 blocks [2/1] [_U] [>....................]  recovery =  1.1% (457472/39061952) finish=14.0min speed=45747K/sec
1198928946 J * esa bip@ip-87-238-2-45.adsl.cheapnet.it
1198928946 M * Bertl bXi_: ah, you did the file copy manually last time? :)
1198928997 M * bXi_ i had my vservers as directory in / first
1198929009 M * bXi_ so i had to manually copy it over to the raid
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1198929120 M * bXi_ my partitioning is kind of weird :O
1198929369 M * Bertl well, the important part is, that it all should work out now, no?
1198929505 M * bXi_ yeah
1198932023 M * bXi_ now to combine all other partitions into one huge monster partition
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1198937785 M * Bertl okay, off for now .. back later!
1198937790 N * Bertl Bertl_oO
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1198940850 J * kwowt ~quote@pomoc.ircnet.com
1198940852 M * kwowt Hii
1198940852 M * kwowt :P
1198940858 M * kwowt me again;)
1198940920 M * kwowt Hm..i'm running 10 guest vservers, most of my users using torrentflux, which causes huge load, since everyone run their own apache and python. Is there any chance there would be a preinstalled apache, so only 1 server would run for all vserver guests? that should reduce the load, woudltn it?
1198941012 M * kwowt anyone?:D
1198941190 M * Bertl_oO well, you need to figure how you would use that single apache
1198941212 M * Bertl_oO of course, you could put it into a separate guest
1198941390 J * Infinito argos@201-2-78-38.gnace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br
1198941689 M * kwowt no idea how to do that
1198941698 M * kwowt i cant find anything on google either
1198941735 M * Bertl_oO just create a dedicated guest with that specific apache running, you can then use it via network
1198941764 M * kwowt how, via network ?
1198941771 M * kwowt Well, root server has apache running
1198941796 M * Bertl_oO well, probably your other 'guests' will somehow provide data for this specific apache to be served, no?
1198941899 M * kwowt i dont understand
1198941907 M * kwowt not even theoreticly, how this woudl work
1198941908 M * kwowt :/
1198941991 M * Bertl_oO okay, from what you gave me (information) I concluded that you want to 'combine' the different apaches from your 10 guests, but each of them guests wants to serve separate data, no?
1198942045 M * kwowt yeap
1198942075 M * Bertl_oO okay, so you need to setup virtual hosts for each of the guest spaces, in your shared apache
1198942114 M * Bertl_oO and you somehow need to get those spaces shared with the guests (disk/data wise)
1198942151 J * aliby ~aliby@CPE-65-31-132-184.wi.res.rr.com
1198942176 M * Bertl_oO welcome aliby!
1198942178 M * aliby Thanks!
1198942197 M * kwowt yea...the first thing is clear
1198942202 M * kwowt but how to get them shared..
1198942239 M * aliby I've currently got Gentoo-Hardened installed/compile as my kernel and would like to use that + the gentoo-vserver kernel as well. I know some patches exist, but was wondering if there were any newer ones for say 2.6.23-hardened-r4 ?
1198942379 M * kwowt hehe
1198942382 M * kwowt thats interesting for me too
1198942431 M * kwowt but still, that shared apache
1198942433 M * kwowt :(
1198942516 M * Bertl_oO aliby: better not, will only cause you problems
1198942532 M * aliby alrighty
1198942533 Q * mire Read error: Operation timed out
1198942538 M * aliby so i'm better off going with one or the other then?
1198942551 M * Bertl_oO kwowt: so one option would be to configure the virtual hosts (apache) to use separate directories for the data (html)
1198942576 M * Bertl_oO aliby: yes, depending on what you need, Linux-VServer will definitely increase security for guest apps
1198942599 M * Bertl_oO kwowt: and then --bind mount them into the guests (/var/www) for example
1198942770 M * kwowt Bertl_oO: if i understand correct, apache would then work without them even seeing apache pids?
1198942845 M * Bertl_oO yes, all they 'see' is the html directory
1198942990 M * kwowt understandable, but how do i bind mount 'em?
1198943102 M * Bertl_oO simple, you put the proper bind mount line into the guest's config fstab, that's it :)
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1198968654 M * bardia what's the easiest way to copy/duplicate/rename/re-ip a client from one host machine to another?  vserver-copy seems to be outdated, says it's looking for /etc/vserver/clientname.conf which doesn't exist...
1198969030 M * Bertl_oO use the rsync method of util-vserver's 'vserver' command
1198969041 M * Bertl_oO see 'vserver - build --help'
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