1197936043 Q * Hollow Remote host closed the connection 1197936047 J * Hollow ~hollow@proteus.croup.de 1197936050 J * mire ~mire@36-169-222-85.adsl.verat.net 1197937426 Q * mick_work Remote host closed the connection 1197937970 Q * yarihm Quit: Leaving 1197939073 J * opuk_ ~kupo@c213-100-138-228.swipnet.se 1197939137 Q * Vudumen Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1197939172 Q * opuk Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1197939508 J * Vudumen c56b31a8fc@perverz.hu 1197939721 Q * shuri Quit: This computer has gone to sleep 1197940562 Q * dowdle Remote host closed the connection 1197940584 M * Bertl off to bed now ... have a good one everyone! 1197940588 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ 1197941244 Q * Abaddon Quit: leaving 1197941790 Q * kris Quit: leaving 1197942240 Q * Hollow Remote host closed the connection 1197942280 J * Hollow ~hollow@proteus.croup.de 1197942295 Q * FireEgl Read error: Connection reset by peer 1197943119 J * FireEgl FireEgl@4.0.0.0.1.0.0.0.c.d.4.8.0.c.5.0.1.0.0.2.ip6.arpa 1197944209 J * shuri ~shuri@64.235.209.226 1197944320 Q * shuri 1197944681 J * shuri ~shuri@64.235.209.226 1197945222 Q * mire Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1197945262 Q * FireEgl Read error: Connection reset by peer 1197946055 J * FireEgl FireEgl@4.0.0.0.1.0.0.0.c.d.4.8.0.c.5.0.1.0.0.2.ip6.arpa 1197950854 Q * derjohn Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1197950909 J * derjohn ~derjohn@dslb-084-058-213-114.pools.arcor-ip.net 1197951836 Q * Infinito Quit: Quitte 1197952950 Q * shuri Quit: Leaving 1197953882 Q * balbir Read error: Operation timed out 1197954183 J * zbyniu_ ~zbyniu@host13-188.crowley.pl 1197954184 Q * zbyniu Read error: Connection reset by peer 1197956640 Q * neuralis Quit: machine change 1197958007 Q * oo Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1197960458 J * balbir ~balbir@59.145.136.1 1197960685 J * larsivi ~larsivi@144.84-48-50.nextgentel.com 1197961683 Q * softi42 Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1197962190 J * softi42 ~softi@p549D7D4D.dip.t-dialin.net 1197962697 N * DoberMann[ZZZzzz] DoberMann 1197962869 J * awk ~awk@kia.inet-corp.com 1197962871 M * awk morning 1197962961 N * DoberMann DoberMann[PullA] 1197963930 J * cedric ~cedric@rny93-2-82-66-66-30.fbx.proxad.net 1197963945 Q * larsivi Quit: Konversation terminated! 1197964213 Q * wibble Remote host closed the connection 1197964344 M * awk hmm, .... 1197964345 M * awk app1:/etc/init.d# vserver-copy dcs spm 1197964345 M * awk I: vserver-copy: called on app1 at Tue Dec 18 11:51:44 SAST 2007 1197964345 M * awk E: vserver-copy: Vserver file "/etc/vservers/dcs.conf" does not exist 1197964397 M * awk thing is, their is no dcs.conf on the box... 1197964403 M * awk does vserver-copy still work? 1197964930 J * friendly12345 ~friendly@ppp121-44-206-97.lns3.mel4.internode.on.net 1197964996 M * matti Morning. 1197965060 M * awk hi matt 1197965137 M * matti Hi awk 1197965902 M * ard6 vserver-copy is obsolete 1197965912 M * ard6 vserver build -m clone 1197966052 M * ard6 in your case: vserver spm -m clone -- --source dcs 1197966056 M * ard6 or something like that 1197966067 M * ard6 You can also rsync from other servers etc... 1197966089 M * ard6 make sure you have at least 0.30.214 of the vserver utils 1197966525 Q * cedric Quit: cedric 1197966653 Q * eyck Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1197966653 Q * ex Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1197966772 J * mire ~mire@36-169-222-85.adsl.verat.net 1197966806 Q * arachnist Quit: brb 1197966918 J * arachnist arachnist@088156187175.who.vectranet.pl 1197967032 J * ex ex@valis.net.pl 1197967037 J * eyck vSQ6EQIB@nat05.nowanet.pl 1197967383 J * Alikus ~alikus@217.150.200.212 1197968137 N * DoberMann[PullA] DoberMann 1197968222 J * JonB ~NoSuchUse@kg1-98.kollegiegaarden.dk 1197968324 J * dna ~dna@102-237-dsl.kielnet.net 1197968336 J * larsivi ~larsivi@85.221.53.194 1197968717 J * yarihm ~yarihm@84-75-119-160.dclient.hispeed.ch 1197968790 J * n00b ~n00b1234@chello213047155237.5.sc-graz.chello.at 1197968790 Q * FireEgl Read error: Connection reset by peer 1197968897 Q * mire Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1197969022 M * n00b I did not manage to reach one of the vserver util developers but have an annoying problem with tar templates and uid/gid numbers. Does someone know how the template building process works. 1197969089 Q * Alikus Remote host closed the connection 1197969102 J * gebura ~gebura@77.192.186.197 1197969135 J * DavidS ~david@p57A4841F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de 1197969298 M * n00b I tracked down the fault to the h2ext binary that produces an wrong pipe command sequence when used in vserver-build.template 1197969632 J * FireEgl FireEgl@4.0.0.0.1.0.0.0.c.d.4.8.0.c.5.0.1.0.0.2.ip6.arpa 1197969960 N * zbyniu_ zbyniu 1197970678 Q * alex__ Quit: Leaving 1197970727 Q * yarihm Quit: This computer has gone to sleep 1197970733 J * ema ~ema@rtfm.galliera.it 1197970772 M * gebura hi 1197970795 M * n00b Hello 1197970883 J * yarihm ~yarihm@84-75-119-160.dclient.hispeed.ch 1197971059 M * n00b I did not manage to reach one of the vserver util developers but have an annoying problem with tar templates and uid/gid numbers. Does someone know how the template building process works? I tracked down the fault to the h2ext binary that produces a wrong pipe command sequence when used in vserver-build.template. The consequence is that uid/gid of files in the vserver are altered, so that it fails to work. 1197971234 Q * JonB Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1197972024 J * tuxbublin1 ~omauras@62.80.120.214 1197972027 M * tuxbublin1 hello 1197972047 M * n00b Hi 1197972063 M * n00b are u serching for support or may you offer? 1197972090 M * tuxbublin1 well nothing for the moment just conncting :) 1197972621 J * JonB ~NoSuchUse@130.227.63.19 1197972822 M * tuxbublin1 well ok i'm trying something like "vyum myguest -- install openssh" doesn't seem to work... am i doing something wrong? 1197973307 Q * n00b Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1197973359 J * n00b ~n00b1234@chello213047155237.5.sc-graz.chello.at 1197973620 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl 1197973626 M * Bertl morning folks! 1197973631 M * tuxbublin1 morning 1197973644 M * n00b hi 1197973706 M * Bertl n00b: should be fixed in the HEAD/TRUNK 1197973728 M * n00b In which version? 1197973745 M * Bertl tuxbublin1: was your guest built with yum? does it use externalized package management? 1197973754 M * Bertl n00b: 0.30.215+ 1197973808 M * tuxbublin1 Bertl: actually i find that the guest is getting the secondary ip, and that the host couldn't join internet trough that one 1197973826 M * tuxbublin1 even if i stop the guest, host still can't use that ip 1197973831 M * tuxbublin1 bit weird 1197973842 M * Bertl tuxbublin1: second IP means? 1197973850 M * n00b Thanks, i try to compile the new utils 1197973865 M * Bertl tuxbublin1: note: usually network issues are _not_ Linux-VServer related :) 1197973884 M * tuxbublin1 (11:30:41) Bertl: tuxbublin1: second IP means? << yeah 1197973901 M * tuxbublin1 Bertl: actually it worked nicely before i set it as second guest ip :) 1197973943 M * Bertl tuxbublin1: please give me an idea what your setup looks like ... 1197973956 M * tuxbublin1 host having an internal ip 1197973969 M * tuxbublin1 guest having internal and external ip 1197973995 M * tuxbublin1 to make an install i have to get host using external ip too 1197974004 A * ard6 suggests ip a ls && ip ro sh > paste.linux-vserver.org :-) 1197974039 M * Bertl tuxbublin1: external means a routed IP, yes? 1197974069 M * tuxbublin1 mmmmh think i've found the problem let me check :) 1197974074 M * ard6 ( As a matter of fact: the host has all the IP's and vserver restricts the IP's used in a vserver ) 1197974080 M * Bertl tuxbublin1: if so, you want to assign that one as _first_ ip to the guest 1197974139 M * tuxbublin1 just tell me how could i set the default route when the guest starts and activate second ip? 1197974181 M * Bertl tuxbublin1: the very same way you did set the default route already 1197974194 M * Bertl tuxbublin1: routing happens _on_the_host_ 1197974227 M * Bertl tuxbublin1: so check with 'ping -I ' _on_the_host_ and make that work (as first step) 1197974338 Q * n00b Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1197974340 M * tuxbublin1 i can ping outside from the guest 1197974345 M * tuxbublin1 but not from host Oo 1197974405 M * tuxbublin1 all works from the guest :D 1197974423 M * Bertl good, then (in theory) you can use yum inside the guest 1197974441 M * tuxbublin1 no because the centos template doesn't install yum :( 1197974452 M * tuxbublin1 nor openssh :'( 1197974526 M * tuxbublin1 so i tried vyum guest -- install openssh 1197974543 M * tuxbublin1 and discovered that i cannot join outside from the host :( 1197974552 M * tuxbublin1 and this since i started the guest 1197974635 M * Bertl well, the guest does not 'take away' your ip addresses 1197974672 M * Bertl I assume, your host simply has a configuration, which doesn't work 1197974690 M * tuxbublin1 well "sounds" better now let me check that :) 1197974691 M * Bertl check with tcpdump for example 1197974939 M * tuxbublin1 just a question unrelated 1197975040 M * awk hmm, adding mark to default or is it adding default to mark? 1197975043 M * awk to get vserver to start at boot 1197975058 M * awk I did echo mark >/var/lib/vservers/servername/app/init/default ? 1197975269 M * Bertl http://www.nongnu.org/util-vserver/doc/conf/configuration.html 1197975386 M * Bertl (i.e. the file is called 'mark' and you want to echo 'default' there) 1197975471 M * JonB are there any rescue CD/DVD with a vserver kernel? 1197975488 M * Bertl IIRC, knoppix has it 1197975497 M * JonB okay 1197976034 M * tuxbublin1 ok that's so weird, if i set ip adress on the host, then the guest as no network when booting.... 1197976194 M * tuxbublin1 it's removing the default route on the host actually 1197976258 M * tuxbublin1 how could i prevent this? 1197976279 M * tuxbublin1 that when guest bootup it doesn't remove default route 1197976287 Q * yarihm Quit: Leaving 1197976422 J * mire ~mire@36-169-222-85.adsl.verat.net 1197976643 M * Bertl tuxbublin1: no, the guest cannot remove any routing on the host 1197976658 M * Bertl tuxbublin1: and by default, no script will add/remove any route 1197976680 M * Bertl tuxbublin1: but I can't help you without more information about your setup 1197976836 Q * Aiken Quit: Leaving 1197977246 J * Abaddon abaddon@68-71.is.net.pl 1197977672 Q * arachnist Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1197977814 Q * mire Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1197979530 J * arachnist arachnist@088156187175.who.vectranet.pl 1197980221 J * n00b ~n00b1234@chello213047155237.5.sc-graz.chello.at 1197980244 N * opuk_ opuk 1197980285 M * n00b Where can I get the .215 vserver utils? On vserver homepage and gnu.savannah 214 seems to be the latest released. Is the .215 the current unstable trunk? 1197980367 M * Bertl as I said, it is HEAD/TRUNK 1197980418 M * n00b What was fixed that should make tar work? the h2ext.c that returns the wrong command is 5 month old. 1197980435 M * daniel_hozac as i said in the email, it's h2ext.desc. 1197980444 M * Bertl IIRC, the --numeric-id was added 1197980505 M * daniel_hozac http://archives.linux-vserver.org/200711/0058.html 1197980560 M * daniel_hozac http://svn.linux-vserver.org/projects/util-vserver/changeset/2638 is the commit that fixed it. 1197980564 M * n00b Ok, now I see, the numeric owner was added here. 1197980650 M * n00b Since having some painful encounters with other pre-release software later I do not dare to use the pre 215. 1197980658 M * n00b Thanks for your help 1197980676 M * Bertl get the fix and apply it, should do the trick for you 1197980842 Q * JonB Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1197980865 M * Bertl okay, off for now .. here something for the bold :) 1197980867 M * Bertl http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Experimental/patch-2.6.24-rc3-vs2.2.0.5.0.2-pre.diff 1197980875 M * daniel_hozac 2.2? 1197980894 M * daniel_hozac i'll give it a whirl :) 1197980899 M * Bertl well, I did cut down the things to be ported, 2.3 ontop of that should be easy 1197980923 M * Bertl note: scheduler support is not there, and some of the pid stuff is definitely wrong/missing (in proc) 1197980941 M * daniel_hozac okay. 1197980965 M * Bertl would be interesting to see if the user stuff (spaces) work as expected 1197980997 M * Bertl FWIW, it didn't blow up my test environment (yet :) 1197981003 M * Bertl bbl 1197981007 N * Bertl Bertl_oO 1197981142 Q * n00b Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1197981306 P * friendly12345 1197983761 Q * Abaddon Quit: leaving 1197983858 Q * FireEgl Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1197984014 Q * balbir Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1197984704 M * ard Hmmm that sounds pretty ipv6-less :-( ... 1197984727 J * JonB ~NoSuchUse@192.38.8.25 1197985176 M * tuxbublin1 can someone tell me what the guest does when it starts? got a route that is delete everytime i start/restart the guest 1197985273 M * tuxbublin1 even stopping the host is removig the ip addres that is common between guest/host 1197985411 M * tuxbublin1 i set this ip in the /etc/vservers/$guest/interfaces/1/* 1197985418 M * tuxbublin1 0 is for the second interface 1197985422 M * tuxbublin1 is that ok? 1197985445 M * ard http://www.nongnu.org/util-vserver/doc/conf/configuration.html 1197985462 M * ard look at: /etc/vservers/vserver-name/interfaces/iface 1197985488 M * ard if you touch a nodev there, the scripts assume that the IP already exists, and won't add or remove it 1197985505 M * tuxbublin1 oh ok 1197985514 M * ard Usually 0 is the first IP, and 1 is the second IP 1197985547 A * ard always puts the IP on lo with a /32 netmask 1197985571 M * tuxbublin1 on lo? 1197985666 M * tuxbublin1 (14:44:36) ard: if you touch a nodev there, the scripts assume that the IP already exists, and won't add or remove it << oh that's pretty neat 1197985784 M * ard6 But beware: do not ever put an IP with a netmask != 32 on lo... (except for 127...) 1197985822 M * ard6 If you put 10.0.0.0/8 on lo, it means that you have every IP adres on lo in that /8 netmask :-) 1197985835 M * ard6 eh... 1197985841 M * tuxbublin1 why do you want to change lo ip? 1197985843 M * ard6 If you put 10.0.0.0/8 on lo, it means that you own every IP adres in that /8 netmask :-) 1197985853 M * ard6 change? 1197985854 M * ard6 add! 1197985899 M * ard6 if you bring down the physical interface and bring it back up again, your config might be gone 1197985934 M * ard6 I use the physical interfaces for routing and stuff like that. and lo for service/vserver addresses 1197985942 M * tuxbublin1 yeah ok i see 1197985964 M * ard6 Do you know the ip command? 1197985971 M * tuxbublin1 yes 1197985978 M * tuxbublin1 i'm better with ifconfig :p 1197985980 M * ard6 ok :-) that's a relieve :-) 1197985988 M * tuxbublin1 starting with ip 1197985988 J * Abaddon abaddon@68-71.is.net.pl 1197985990 M * ard6 that's actually less :-( 1197986018 M * ard6 because ip actually explains how the kernel works, and ifconfig tries to mimick bsd stuff... 1197986033 M * ard6 or sysv stuff ... 1197986035 M * tuxbublin1 when i touch /etc/vservers/vserver-name/interfaces/iface/nodev should i have something else set or not? 1197986056 M * tuxbublin1 ard6: yeah i know 1197986068 M * ard6 eh... iface is meant to be a number :-) 1197986079 M * ard6 /etc/vservers/vserver-name/interfaces/[0-9]/nodev 1197986084 M * tuxbublin1 yeah i know lol 1197986088 M * ard6 ah, ok :-) 1197986099 M * tuxbublin1 i mean in /etc/vservers/vserver-name/interfaces/[0-9]/ip or else 1197986100 M * ard6 well, the ip adress must already be there 1197986113 M * ard6 ow, yes, you need the ip and the netmask 1197986115 M * tuxbublin1 so i must have ip and mask too? 1197986117 M * tuxbublin1 oki :) 1197986124 M * ard6 the interface does not matter 1197986316 Q * arekm Quit: restart 1197986494 J * mire ~mire@36-169-222-85.adsl.verat.net 1197987166 M * tuxbublin1 ard6: cheers works perfectly now :) 1197987610 M * tuxbublin1 now have to make my accounts working.... 1197987913 J * doener ~doener@i577AC8A4.versanet.de 1197988004 Q * Abaddon Quit: leaving 1197988328 Q * doener_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1197988351 M * tuxbublin1 ard6: how do i make syslog-ng working with /proc/kmsg unreadable? 1197988422 M * tuxbublin1 nah forgive me :p 1197988527 M * tuxbublin1 err no actually 1197988533 M * tuxbublin1 cannot start it by hand Oo 1197988603 M * tuxbublin1 Starting system logger: Error opening file /proc/kmsg for reading (Operation not permitted) 1197988603 M * tuxbublin1 Error initializing configuration, exiting. 1197988608 M * tuxbublin1 always got this :( 1197988973 M * tuxbublin1 and sshd doesn't work neither 1197988984 M * tuxbublin1 starting to make me headaches :/ 1197989107 M * ard6 you can't read /proc/kmsg from a vserver 1197989121 M * ard6 so you have to configure syslog-ng to not read that :-) 1197989167 M * tuxbublin1 mmmh 1197989176 M * tuxbublin1 how is it suppose to log then? 1197989185 J * PowerKe ~tom@d54C13E4B.access.telenet.be 1197989252 Q * larsivi Quit: Konversation terminated! 1197989377 M * ard6 well, it's simple: kernel messages are off-limits and of no interest to guests 1197989388 M * ard6 they are onlu interesting to the host 1197989410 M * ard6 So you will be running a klogd or syslog-ng in your host 1197989431 M * ard6 your guest applications will log to syslog-ng without a problem 1197989437 M * tuxbublin1 oki 1197989452 M * ard6 (the syslog-ng within the vserver) 1197989482 M * tuxbublin1 yep ;) 1197989505 M * tuxbublin1 sounds like my sshd + pam combo has problems.... 1197989540 M * tuxbublin1 [root@admin2021 omauras]# vserver guest enter 1197989540 M * tuxbublin1 'vserver ... suexec' is supported for running vservers only; aborting... 1197989543 M * tuxbublin1 wtf?? 1197989564 M * tuxbublin1 oh god :D 1197990235 M * gebura tuxbublin1, vserver guest start && vserver guest enter 1197990245 M * gebura it work better if the vserver rune 1197990292 M * tuxbublin1 ^^ 1197990310 M * tuxbublin1 damn that sshd / pam problem is killing me 1197990388 M * tuxbublin1 never usePAM :) 1197990396 M * tuxbublin1 so far so good 1197990485 J * shuri ~shuri@64.235.209.226 1197990661 M * tuxbublin1 another question 1197990678 M * tuxbublin1 i cannot change bash by rbash on my guest 1197990709 M * tuxbublin1 doing so remove the ability to enter the guest from the host 1197990712 M * tuxbublin1 O_o 1197990719 M * tuxbublin1 i'm asking too much i think :p 1197991313 J * pmenier ~pme@LNeuilly-152-22-72-5.w193-251.abo.wanadoo.fr 1197992152 Q * mire Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1197992337 J * dowdle ~dowdle@scott.coe.montana.edu 1197992524 Q * ||Cobra|| Remote host closed the connection 1197992574 J * ||Cobra|| ~cob@pc-csa01.science.uva.nl 1197992718 J * gemini543 ~HF43@p5498C991.dip.t-dialin.net 1197992750 P * gemini543 1197992949 J * gemini543 ~HF43@p5498C991.dip.t-dialin.net 1197992961 J * mire ~mire@42-168-222-85.adsl.verat.net 1197993008 P * gemini543 1197993604 Q * zbyniu Quit: Lost terminal 1197993718 J * zbyniu ~zbyniu@host13-188.crowley.pl 1197993870 Q * mire Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1197995686 J * larsivi ~larsivi@144.84-48-50.nextgentel.com 1197995997 J * mick_work ~clamwin@adsl-068-157-089-099.sip.bct.bellsouth.net 1197996005 Q * JonB Read error: Operation timed out 1197996356 Q * gebura Quit: Quitte 1197996442 J * cgirl29 ~cgirl29@ANantes-257-1-14-184.w90-31.abo.wanadoo.fr 1197996544 Q * cgirl29 1197997368 J * FireEgl FireEgl@4.0.0.0.1.0.0.0.c.d.4.8.0.c.5.0.1.0.0.2.ip6.arpa 1197997492 M * awk tuxublin1 well then don't replace bash with rbash, except for the users that it doesn't affect... 1197997504 M * awk most system users don't need any type of bash/rbash, etc et.. 1197997520 M * awk and i have no problem running rbash on all my users in a vserver.. 1197997639 M * tuxbublin1 well no problem for ssh connections 1197997675 M * tuxbublin1 only problems for "vserver guest enter" 1197997703 M * ard vserver exec /bin/rbash 1197997712 M * ard and then some option with terminal enabled 1197997795 J * Infinito argos@201-3-115-208.gnace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br 1197997819 M * ard you can also try SHELL=/bin/rbash .... enter 1197997885 M * tuxbublin1 ok 1197997925 M * tuxbublin1 btw that's something not really helpfull as: cp /bin/rbash ./bash && bash let you get out of this 1197997941 M * tuxbublin1 if path set correctly 1197998107 M * ard well, you are (probably) responsible voor securing the vserver, so you must figure out how to use vserver for that ;-) 1197998140 M * ard use exec or suexec with terminal options, and you will probably be able to run rbash with that... 1197998166 M * ard personally I even start sshd using vserver ... exec 1197998241 M * ard vserver ... enter is a shortcut for the right exec 1197998423 M * tuxbublin1 ok 1197999250 J * virtuoso ~s0t0na@78.37.193.149 1197999254 Q * ||Cobra|| Remote host closed the connection 1197999551 J * ||Cobra|| ~cob@pc-csa01.science.uva.nl 1197999657 Q * virtuoso_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1198000142 M * tuxbublin1 time to leave 1198000143 M * tuxbublin1 c ya 1198000145 P * tuxbublin1 1198000316 J * balbir ~balbir@122.167.205.122 1198000727 Q * pmenier Quit: Konversation terminated! 1198000837 Q * harry_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1198000997 Q * Infinito Quit: Quitte 1198001204 J * harry ~harry@d54C363EF.access.telenet.be 1198001505 Q * arachnist Quit: brb/bbl 1198001681 J * arachnist ~arachnist@pool-72-93-68-50.bstnma.fios.verizon.net 1198002449 J * hparker ~hparker@linux.homershut.net 1198002705 J * JonB ~NoSuchUse@kg1-98.kollegiegaarden.dk 1198002893 Q * sladen Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1198002990 J * sladen paul@starsky.19inch.net 1198003189 N * Bertl_oO Bertl 1198003328 M * Bertl evening folks! 1198003332 M * JonB hi 1198003537 N * DoberMann DoberMann[PullA] 1198003740 Q * balbir Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1198003740 J * rgl ~rgl@84.90.10.245 1198003745 M * rgl hello 1198003752 M * Bertl wb rgl! 1198003761 M * rgl hi Bertl :D 1198003829 M * rgl I have a problem. when I try to do a "vserver start piranha" in the server console I get "Unknown tag; use -l..." but if I try the same command through a ssh connection it works fine. any idea of what might be wrong? 1198003881 M * rgl where (what command) should I use the "-l" flag? 1198003889 M * Bertl I really doubt that :) 1198003891 M * waldi okay, ml broken again, no bock 1198003902 M * Bertl waldi: hmm? 1198003916 M * rgl Bertl, you doubt what? 1198003924 M * waldi Bertl: mail bounced 1198003942 M * Bertl rgl: it is 'vserver piranha start' not 'vserver start piranha' and I doubt that it works the other way round over ssh :) 1198003972 M * Bertl waldi: did you get any feedback, like a reason why it was rejected? 1198003981 M * waldi "Sorry, only subscribers may post." 1198003993 M * Bertl so maybe that is the problem? 1198004004 M * rgl Bertl, oh, I messed up when I wrote here. I'm really using "vserver piranha start" on both, sorry about the confusion. 1198004036 M * waldi Bertl: possible. so i just stop posting anything 1198004078 M * Bertl waldi: how about subscribing? 1198004087 M * waldi i'm subscribed 1198004099 M * Bertl waldi: in any way, contact Hollow, he is maintaining the new ML 1198004206 M * Bertl rgl: what do you mean by 'server console'? 1198004223 M * rgl Bertl, I'm making a screenshot. gimme a sec :) 1198004511 J * Abaddon abaddon@68-71.is.net.pl 1198004605 M * Bertl wb Abaddon! 1198004660 Q * mick_work Remote host closed the connection 1198004838 M * rgl Bertl, http://ruilopes.com/tmp/vserver-refuses-to-start-from-console.png 1198004844 M * rgl its really odd. 1198005616 M * Bertl and, /proc/uptime is there? 1198005687 J * Infinito argos@200-101-124-139.gnace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br 1198005765 Q * JonB Quit: This computer has gone to sleep 1198005818 M * rgl Bertl, yup. and I can cat it 1198005839 M * Bertl on the console, yes? 1198005870 M * rgl yes. and I can see/cat it too from ssh. 1198005907 M * Bertl well, try to run the start sequence with --debug, and capture the output, and upload it somewhere 1198005914 M * rgl ok 1198005959 J * cedric ~cedric@rny93-2-82-66-66-30.fbx.proxad.net 1198006099 M * rgl Bertl, its at http://ruilopes.com/tmp/vserver-refuses-to-start-from-console.log 1198006332 M * Bertl looks to me like your tools are messed up, i.e. you have two sets of tools installed in different pathes, and your console login has a different set for PATH as the ssh logon 1198006385 M * Bertl please run the same --debug start via ssh for me 1198006535 M * rgl ok. gimme a sec. 1198006731 M * rgl Bertl, its at http://ruilopes.com/tmp/vserver-refuses-to-start-from-ssh.log 1198007001 M * Bertl you are definitely positive you are on the same machine? 1198007103 M * matti Hi Bertl :) 1198007111 M * Bertl hey matti! 1198007297 M * rgl Bertl, it is :D 1198007338 M * Bertl okay, please do me a favor and try: 1198007390 M * Bertl '/usr/sbin/vserver-info - VERIFYPROC' and '/usr/sbin/vserver-info --version' on both console and over ssh 1198007855 Q * Infinito Quit: Quitte 1198008091 J * JonB ~NoSuchUse@kg1-98.kollegiegaarden.dk 1198008659 M * rgl Bertl, they produce no output. 1198008691 M * Bertl hmm? 1198008696 M * rgl (the VERIFYPROC ones) 1198008705 M * Bertl ah, yes, that is expected 1198008716 M * rgl vserver-info 0.30.214 -- returns information about vservers 1198008716 M * rgl This program is part of util-vserver 0.30.214 1198008721 M * Bertl but note, in your console trace, it did produce an output 1198008748 M * rgl both --version produce that same output. 1198008757 M * rgl Bertl, sorry? 1198008792 M * Bertl ++ /usr/sbin/vserver-info - VERIFYPROC 1198008793 M * Bertl Unknown tag; use '-l' to get list of valid tags 1198008822 M * rgl that is strange, because manually running it, it does not produce anything 1198009014 M * rgl on the console if I do a, ssh localhost and then try the "vserver piranha start" it works. so odd :/ 1198009093 M * Bertl check the environment 'set' 1198009104 M * Bertl maybe your console has a very funny environment set 1198009115 M * Bertl (if that is indeed the cause, please notify daniel_hozac) 1198009137 M * rgl how can it be? both the console and ssh connection is in the root account 1198009255 M * Bertl ssh executes other logon scripts than login/mgetty 1198011492 J * AStorm ~astralsto@chello089077114002.chello.pl 1198012097 J * Aiken ~james@ppp121-45-246-228.lns2.bne4.internode.on.net 1198012468 M * Tuxbubling hey there 1198012479 M * Bertl wb Tuxbubling! 1198012493 M * Tuxbubling how do i set clock on my guest? 1198012504 M * Bertl usually you don't 1198012525 M * Bertl i.e. you only set the time zone, the clock sync is done on the host 1198012530 M * Tuxbubling it's 6h late 1198012539 M * Tuxbubling the host is ok 1198012549 M * Bertl then fix the timezone inside the guest 1198012567 M * Bertl (/etc/localtime) 1198012597 M * Bertl you can copy it from the host if you like 1198012614 Q * hparker Remote host closed the connection 1198012616 M * Tuxbubling that's all? 1198012637 M * Tuxbubling mmmh thought of somethin more difficult :p 1198012668 M * Bertl hehe, no, usually it's all simple and straight forward 1198012750 Q * arachnist Quit: brb 1198012758 J * arachnist arachnist@088156187175.who.vectranet.pl 1198012781 M * Tuxbubling Bertl: btw that doesn't work :( 1198012791 M * Tuxbubling i copied the correct zoneinfo 1198012819 M * Tuxbubling ah no sorry lol 1198012823 M * Bertl :) 1198012895 M * Tuxbubling i copied from the host to the .... host :p 1198012899 M * Tuxbubling couldn't work ^^ 1198013124 J * fatgoose ~samuel@201.203.168.22 1198013799 J * DLange ~dlange@p57A30EB1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de 1198013870 M * Bertl wb DLange! 1198013899 M * DLange Ola Bertl's script :-) 1198013909 M * Bertl :) 1198013948 M * DLange Ola Bertl :-) 1198014407 J * yarihm ~yarihm@84-75-119-160.dclient.hispeed.ch 1198014760 J * hparker ~hparker@linux.homershut.net 1198014810 Q * fatgoose Quit: fatgoose 1198016148 M * DLange Gute Nacht alle zusammen! 1198016196 Q * DLange Quit: Bye, bye. Hasta luego. 1198016273 Q * shuri Quit: Leaving 1198017057 J * mark_ ~mark@HERCULES.sentiensystems.net 1198017063 N * mark_ Skram 1198017077 N * Skram SkramX 1198017095 N * SkramX Skram 1198017237 M * Guy- vnamespace -e 6 cat /proc/mounts shows a filesystem as mounted; vnamespace -e 6 umount /dir/to/filesystem says it's not mounted 1198017243 M * Guy- what am I doing wrong? :) 1198017281 J * Infinito argos@200-101-125-12.gnace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br 1198017362 Q * JonB Quit: This computer has gone to sleep 1198017462 M * Guy- http://pastebin.be/7576 1198017805 M * Guy- brb 1198017833 Q * Guy- Remote host closed the connection 1198017969 J * mire ~mire@51-168-222-85.adsl.verat.net 1198018428 J * Guy- ~korn@elan.rulez.org 1198018567 M * Bertl Guy-: you are trusting 'mount' :) 1198018595 M * Guy- Bertl: what should I have done instead? 1198018605 M * Guy- I ended up stopping the vserver to get rid of that mount 1198018620 M * Bertl mount looks in your /etc/fstab and /etc/mtab 1198018635 M * Bertl (without the necessary options) and simply ignores /proc/mounts 1198018642 M * Guy- doh 1198018660 M * Bertl of course, /etc/mtab shows your host mounts :) 1198018666 M * Guy- I knew it was dumb, but I didn't know it was bloody stupid :) 1198018701 M * Guy- but but I'm almost certain I did already unmount stuff before that wasn't in /etc/mtab 1198018708 J * shuri ~shuri@64.235.209.226 1198018727 M * Bertl I can understand that mount uses /etc/mtab if there is no other source (good old unix) but I do not understand why mount on linux doesn't prefer /proc for information gathering 1198018777 M * Guy- neither do I 1198018819 M * Guy- but no, I just tried this 1198018828 M * Guy- I mounted a filesystem with mount -n, so it didn't appear in /etc/mtab 1198018832 M * Guy- and I could umount it no problem 1198018842 M * Guy- by just specifying the mountpoint 1198018927 M * Bertl well, then you got the path wrong or so 1198018934 J * dna_ ~dna@102-237-dsl.kielnet.net 1198018960 M * Guy- I didn't 1198018979 M * Guy- but the circumstances were somewhat exceptional 1198018994 M * Guy- the jfs filesystem in question became read-only because it was corrupted 1198018999 M * Bertl if the mount is there, with the proper path, and the filesystem is not used, umount -f should work 1198019004 M * Guy- it was actually a bind mount in the guest 1198019017 M * Guy- I had already umounted the device on the host 1198019025 M * Guy- and the contents was no longer visible in the guest either 1198019055 M * Guy- I just couldn't remount it after fsck'ing because it was busy 1198019127 Q * shuri Quit: Leaving 1198019194 J * shuri ~shuri@64.235.209.226 1198019195 Q * shuri 1198019236 Q * hparker Quit: Quit 1198019303 Q * danman_ Remote host closed the connection 1198019312 Q * dna Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1198019407 J * danman danman@eliza.wigner.bme.hu 1198019952 Q * rgl Quit: Enough 1198020203 J * hparker ~hparker@linux.homershut.net 1198020675 Q * cedric Quit: cedric 1198022165 Q * Abaddon Quit: leaving 1198022361 Q * hparker Remote host closed the connection