1197678291 M * dennis_ emerge -pvDN system... fun... every times. ^^
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1197679566 J * AStorm ~astralsto@chello089077114002.chello.pl
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1197682650 J * Guy- ~korn@elan.rulez.org
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1197683175 M * Bertl okay, off to bed now .. have a good one everyone! cya!
1197683180 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ
1197683513 N * DoberMann[PullA] DoberMann[ZZZzzz]
1197684704 J * shuri ~shuri@64.235.209.226
1197685967 M * dennis_ good night. ;)  
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1197699652 J * sid3wind1 luser@bastard-operator.from-hell.be
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1197701384 J * FireEgl FireEgl@4.0.0.0.1.0.0.0.c.d.4.8.0.c.5.0.1.0.0.2.ip6.arpa
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1197702878 J * _gh_ ~gerrit@1406chost40.starwoodbroadband.com
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1197705760 J * balbir ~balbir@122.167.217.123
1197706049 J * FireEgl FireEgl@4.0.0.0.1.0.0.0.c.d.4.8.0.c.5.0.1.0.0.2.ip6.arpa
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1197707470 J * FireEgl FireEgl@Sebastian.Atlantica.DollarDNS.Net
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1197708831 J * dna ~dna@210-234-dsl.kielnet.net
1197711892 J * friendly12345 ~friendly@ppp121-44-206-97.lns3.mel4.internode.on.net
1197712105 J * Julius ~julius@p57B25CEE.dip.t-dialin.net
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1197716026 J * pmenier ~pmenier@ACaen-152-1-81-146.w83-115.abo.wanadoo.fr
1197717026 J * Pentium4 ~Slackware@142.Red-83-58-156.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net
1197717065 J * JonB ~NoSuchUse@kg0-128.kollegiegaarden.dk
1197717436 J * Abaddon abaddon@68-71.is.net.pl
1197717549 J * pflanze ~chris@217-162-111-5.dclient.hispeed.ch
1197717696 J * virtuoso ~s0t0na@ppp91-122-171-172.pppoe.avangard-dsl.ru
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1197719613 J * sladen_ paul@starsky.19inch.net
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1197720292 J * onox ~onox@kalfjeslab.demon.nl
1197720331 J * Abaddon abaddon@68-71.is.net.pl
1197720452 J * cedric ~cedric@rny93-2-82-66-66-30.fbx.proxad.net
1197720524 N * phedny Guest283
1197720529 J * phedny ~mark@ip56538143.direct-adsl.nl
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1197721522 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl
1197721530 M * Bertl morning folks!
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1197721821 J * onox ~onox@kalfjeslab.demon.nl
1197721966 J * shuri ~shuri@64.235.209.226
1197722185 M * onox does somebody know how HTTP caching works?
1197722192 M * Bertl yes
1197722197 M * onox k
1197722210 M * onox my browser insist on sending Cache-Control: max-age=0
1197722221 M * onox for files like *.css, *.js
1197722225 M * onox how do I get rid of this?
1197722235 M * onox I want ff and opera to just not contact the server
1197722251 M * Bertl fix the browser? change asome config?
1197722267 M * Bertl *some
1197722267 M * onox yes
1197722300 M * onox I added Cache-Control: max-age=60, but this doesn't work
1197722320 M * Bertl or ignore that header completely, but note that this might give really strange results
1197722329 M * Bertl (depends on your web-cache)
1197722411 M * onox yes, but FF still tries to contact
1197722419 M * onox when I says cache it for 60 seconds
1197722429 M * onox it should not try to revalidate it within those 60 seconds
1197722447 M * Bertl well, if you think it is a FF issue, you should contact those folks, no?
1197722463 M * Bertl (or fix it yourself)
1197722509 M * onox no, opera does the same
1197722530 M * Bertl so maybe the behaviour is correct and intentional?
1197722560 M * Bertl (note: Cache-Control is HTTP 1.1)
1197722570 M * onox maybe the behaviour is correct, but it isn't what I expect from it
1197722581 M * Bertl http://www.web-caching.com/mnot_tutorial/how.html
1197722656 M * Bertl (maybe adjust your expectations then :)
1197722743 M * Bertl ah, here seems to be the original: http://www.mnot.net/cache_docs/
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1197723176 M * onox I still don't get it :'(
1197723428 N * DoberMann[ZZZzzz] DoberMann
1197723494 M * Bertl onox: there is no 'cache at least so and so long' header
1197723519 M * Bertl onox: there are headers to tell that something must not be cached longer than ...
1197723528 J * DavidS ~david@p57A4BA5E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
1197723549 M * Bertl so it is always correct behaviour to fetch it directly
1197723627 M * Bertl although smart web caches will honor (and utilize) the extended cache periods
1197723974 M * onox the end of http://betterexplained.com/articles/how-to-optimize-your-site-with-http-caching/ suggests that max-age would do the trick
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1197724038 J * kaner kaner@zzz.strace.org
1197724049 M * Bertl onox: but you know what 'max age' means?
1197724053 M * Bertl wb kaner!
1197724158 M * onox I need only-if-cached :)
1197724375 M * onox damn, that's not a response directive
1197724720 J * JonB ~NoSuchUse@kg0-128.kollegiegaarden.dk
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1197725262 M * Bertl okay, off for now .. bbl
1197725266 N * Bertl Bertl_oO
1197725569 P * friendly12345 
1197726299 J * meandtheshel1 ~sa@85.127.111.137
1197726316 J * matti matti@acrux.romke.net
1197727775 N * DavidS Guest287
1197727775 J * David1 ~david@p57A49680.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
1197727775 N * David1 DavidS
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1197729611 J * Abaddon abaddon@68-71.is.net.pl
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1197734470 J * Piet ~piet@tor.noreply.org
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1197738790 J * ekeller ~chatzilla@ekellerpc.ee.Princeton.EDU
1197738797 Q * ekeller 
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1197739815 J * arachnist arachnist@088156187175.who.vectranet.pl
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1197739844 J * Alteisen alteisen@shell.chaostreff-dortmund.de
1197741072 N * sladen_ sladen
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1197743448 J * undefined ~undefined@adsl-68-94-183-129.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net
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1197744002 N * Bertl_oO Bertl
1197744007 M * Bertl evening!
1197744014 M * daniel_hozac evening Bertl!
1197744179 A * dowdle waves on  a Saturday.
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1197747296 J * Wonka produziert@chaos.in-kiel.de
1197747816 J * hparker ~hparker@linux.homershut.net
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1197751828 J * hparker ~hparker@linux.homershut.net
1197752407 J * larsivi ~larsivi@144.84-48-50.nextgentel.com
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1197753248 J * dennis ~dennis@dslb-088-068-196-185.pools.arcor-ip.net
1197753264 M * dennis hello! :)
1197753343 M * Bertl hey dennis!
1197753518 M * dennis Hollow: on http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/vps/vserver-howto.xml you write sys-apps/baselayout-1.13 is the requirement for gentoo-based vserver guests. in portage is see sys-apps/baselayout-vserver - replace it the sys-apps/baselayout to use gentoo as vserver guest (for creating an own stage4)?
1197753627 M * Hollow dennis: baselayout-vserver is obsolete
1197753639 M * Hollow and 1.13 is already 2.0 for a while
1197753671 M * Bertl okay, off to bed now .. have a good one everyone!
1197753678 M * Hollow night Bertl
1197753679 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ
1197753706 M * dennis good night Bertl
1197753757 M * dennis okay, so i can simply use an own stage-archiv with baselayout 2.0? :)
1197753769 M * dennis ...with an unmask baselayout 2 ;)
1197753771 M * Hollow yes
1197753788 M * dennis cool! :)
1197753960 J * dothebart ~willi@xdsl-81-173-228-0.netcologne.de
1197753963 M * dothebart hy...
1197753986 M * dothebart I've created a fresh ext3 partition, and mounted it twice to share it between two vservers...
1197754004 M * dothebart now directories created in one can't be seen in the other... what am i doing wrong?
1197754903 J * Aiken ~james@ppp121-45-246-228.lns2.bne4.internode.on.net
1197755347 M * daniel_hozac how did you mount it?
1197755540 M * dothebart put it into the root servers /etc/fstab, and mounted these paths
1197755568 M * daniel_hozac while the guests were running?
1197755574 M * dothebart yes...
1197755583 M * daniel_hozac so the guests don't see the filesystems.
1197755585 M * dothebart at least the one who is showing troubles.
1197755603 M * dothebart ah, so i need to stop and start them?
1197755611 M * daniel_hozac that'd be one way to do it.
1197755621 M * dothebart hm, lets check that out then.
1197755624 M * daniel_hozac personally i'd just mount it in the namespace.
1197755665 M * dothebart btw, is there a way to share unix domain sockets via several guests?
1197755669 M * dothebart inbetween
1197755716 M * daniel_hozac sure.
1197755723 M * daniel_hozac bind mounts work well.
1197755740 M * daniel_hozac hardlinks should work too.
1197755748 M * daniel_hozac (i think...)
1197755778 M * dothebart oh, ups. now the files the vserver created inside are gone. silly me.
1197755789 M * dothebart unmounting and restarting should bring them back?
1197755857 M * daniel_hozac you'd want to keep them mounted when you restart.
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1197756535 J * ntrs ~ntrs@79.125.242.15
1197756568 M * ntrs What is the format in which the cpus are to be listed in the cpus file in the cpuset config?
1197756869 N * sid3wind1 sid3windr
1197756920 M * pflanze Hello. A long time ago I used to use a program or two which tried to escape a vserver client, to check whether my installation was safe.
1197756937 M * pflanze I can't find them anymore on my systems, forgot the name(s). Tips?
1197756957 A * pflanze checks vserver website
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1197757331 N * phedny Guest402
1197757339 J * phedny ~mark@ip56538143.direct-adsl.nl
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1197758835 J * tudenbart ~willi@xdsl-81-173-169-90.netcologne.de
1197759127 J * Abaddon abaddon@68-71.is.net.pl
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1197759329 M * dennis Hollow: i compiled my gentoo vserver-guest with baselayout 2 and now... http://rafb.net/p/CbHVRq93.html
1197759402 M * Hollow seems like your tarball is wrong
1197759418 M * AStorm baselayout 2 requires sysv bootup
1197759425 M * Hollow no
1197759438 M * AStorm at least, it used to do so
1197759442 M * Hollow no
1197759444 M * Hollow :)
1197759461 M * AStorm not anymore? util-vserver can patch it now?
1197759463 M * dennis i use a amd64-stage3-archiv and compiled baselayout2/syslog-ng/vixie-cron
1197759490 M * Hollow AStorm: to get the same behaviour as sysv with gentoo you use the gentoo init style
1197759491 M * dennis and the files zipped as an bzip2 ;)
1197759495 M * Hollow but plain works too
1197759508 M * AStorm ah, right, I thought plain, but said sysv ;P
1197759524 M * Hollow :)
1197759542 M * Hollow dennis: what does "tar tf your-stage.tar.bz2|head -n1" say?
1197759640 M * dennis ahh
1197759641 M * dennis gentoo/bin/
1197759646 M * dennis :S
1197759647 M * dennis okay ;)
1197759650 M * Hollow :)
1197759660 M * dennis     /gentoo --*plonk* :D
1197759926 M * dennis why this wrong? tar -cjf gentoo.tar.bz2 gentoo/*  :S
1197759943 M * AStorm because you pack the dir too
1197759947 M * AStorm cd gentoo
1197759951 P * tudenbart bye & tnx.
1197759960 M * AStorm tar -cjf ../gentoo.tar.bz2 .
1197759964 M * AStorm and you should be good
1197759976 M * dennis i thought gentoo/* packs only the dir content. ;)
1197760018 M * AStorm nope
1197760051 M * Hollow i'd recommend to use -cjpf --numeric-owner
1197760104 M * AStorm good too
1197760111 M * AStorm -p is essential
1197760131 M * dennis Hollow: okay
1197760630 M * dennis ups, i removed /etc/vserver/anyvserver, but its running... its possible to kill a running vserver?
1197760693 Q * Julius Remote host closed the connection
1197760764 M * Hollow dennis: vkill
1197760894 M * dennis the pid ist the context id?
1197760901 M * dennis -t
1197760902 M * dennis ;)
1197760920 M * Hollow vkill --xid 42 -s 9
1197760950 J * friendly12345 ~friendly@ppp121-44-206-97.lns3.mel4.internode.on.net
1197761169 M * dennis yeah, there's running... and my own stage4-archive, too. :)
1197761192 M * dennis oh, syslog-ng doesn't start..
1197761217 M * dennis http://rafb.net/p/E9ym8t84.html
1197761396 M * dennis kmsg exists in vserver /proc/:    -r--------   1 root root    0 15. Dez 21:55 kmsg
1197761469 M * Hollow dennis: hm .. the initpost for gentoo should have fixed this during build
1197761474 M * Hollow do you use hardened?
1197761519 M * dennis yes, its a hardened-profile.
1197761551 M * Hollow it has a completely different default syslog-ng, but you can try to fix /usr/lib/util-vserver/distributions/gentoo/initpost
1197761567 M * Hollow there is a sed fu to remove /proc/kmsg from syslog-ng.conf
1197761743 M * dennis i see the if-block in initpost file... whats the best solution?
1197761764 M * dennis remove this-block or use syslog without hardned-useflag or any other?
1197761890 M * Hollow well, you can just remove the /proc/kmsg entry manually :)
1197761991 M * dennis where?
1197762014 J * undefined ~undefined@adsl-68-94-183-129.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net
1197762017 M * Hollow  /etc/syslog-ng/syslog-ng.conf
1197762266 M * dennis in syslog-ng.conf:   source kernsrc { file("/proc/kmsg"); };  --  if i remove this line, so i haven't kernel messages, but the vserver guest haven't a kernel so it isnt a waste, thats right?
1197762433 Q * sannes Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1197762710 M * Hollow dennis: right
1197762727 J * sannes ace@har.sagt.no
1197763060 M * dennis hey cool, the portage tree will be shared. :)