1197590446 Q * dowdle Remote host closed the connection 1197591303 Q * bragon Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1197592379 Q * mire Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1197594608 Q * Abaddon Quit: leaving 1197594665 Q * Aiken Quit: Leaving 1197594827 Q * zLinux Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1197594891 J * Aiken ~james@ppp121-45-246-228.lns2.bne4.internode.on.net 1197595606 J * click_ click@ti511110a080-0234.bb.online.no 1197595705 Q * click Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1197595842 J * hparker ~hparker@linux.homershut.net 1197596426 J * zLinux ~zLinux@88.213.24.71 1197596473 N * click_ click 1197596566 P * click [IRSSI] 1197597299 Q * Infinito Quit: Quitte 1197599927 Q * _gh_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1197600552 J * _gh_ ~gerrit@1406chost40.starwoodbroadband.com 1197600923 Q * hparker Quit: bbiaf 1197601483 J * hparker ~hparker@linux.homershut.net 1197602593 Q * daniel_hozac Remote host closed the connection 1197606542 Q * tam Remote host closed the connection 1197606911 J * tam ~tam@gw.nettam.com 1197607008 J * kris ~kris@kris.shannon.id.au 1197607084 M * kris Does anyone have a v2.2 patch which works with CFS Scheduler? 1197608015 J * marv ~marv@modemcable128.145-80-70.mc.videotron.ca 1197608023 N * marv _marv 1197608355 M * _marv m'k, i mounted the vservers partitions with the "tag" option, ran: "chxid -c vps1 -R /vservers/vps1/" created the /etc/vservers/vps1/dlimits/0/* files... restarted/remounted everthing even tried rebooting.... the vserver can still go over the space_total 1197608398 Q * FireEgl Read error: Connection reset by peer 1197608454 M * _marv i have no clue what i'm doing rong... 1197608824 Q * _gh_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1197609223 Q * _marv Remote host closed the connection 1197609301 J * FireEgl FireEgl@Sebastian.Atlantica.US 1197609421 Q * zLinux Remote host closed the connection 1197612651 Q * tam Remote host closed the connection 1197613016 J * tam ~tam@gw.nettam.com 1197614833 J * sharkjaw ~gab@shell.ormset.no 1197614839 N * DoberMann[ZZZzzz] DoberMann 1197615294 J * _gh_ ~gerrit@1406chost40.starwoodbroadband.com 1197617936 J * gebura ~gebura@77.192.186.197 1197618086 N * DoberMann DoberMann[PullA] 1197618405 M * gebura hi 1197618799 J * friendly12345 ~friendly@ppp121-44-206-97.lns3.mel4.internode.on.net 1197619098 Q * _gh_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1197619187 Q * balbir Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1197619655 J * _gh_ ~gerrit@1406chost40.starwoodbroadband.com 1197619753 J * daniel_hozac ~daniel@ssh.hozac.com 1197619856 J * balbir ~balbir@122.167.179.183 1197620243 Q * _gh_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1197620380 Q * kris Quit: leaving 1197620447 J * kris ~kris@kris.shannon.id.au 1197620559 J * dstuxo ~dstuxo@86.34.180.179 1197620600 P * dstuxo 1197621686 J * Alikus ~alikus@217.150.200.212 1197621701 J * dna ~dna@67-197-dsl.kielnet.net 1197621722 N * DoberMann[PullA] DoberMann 1197621922 J * JonB ~NoSuchUse@kg1-98.kollegiegaarden.dk 1197622156 Q * hparker Quit: Read error: 104 (Peer reset by connection) 1197622447 J * larsivi ~larsivi@85.221.53.194 1197622856 J * mugwump ~samv@watts.utsl.gen.nz 1197623215 Q * mattzerah`away Read error: Operation timed out 1197623926 J * mattzerah`away ~matt@121.50.220.94 1197624042 Q * fs Read error: Connection reset by peer 1197624094 J * fs fs@213.178.77.98 1197624238 Q * JonB Quit: This computer has gone to sleep 1197625026 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl_oO 1197626892 J * Abaddon abaddon@68-71.is.net.pl 1197627142 J * mire ~mire@91-171-222-85.adsl.verat.net 1197627480 M * FaUl ok, how can i mount something into a vserver without restarting it? 1197627488 M * daniel_hozac vnamespace -e ... 1197627602 J * JonB ~NoSuchUse@kg1-98.kollegiegaarden.dk 1197628307 J * awk ~awk@kia.inet-corp.com 1197628313 M * awk bonjour 1197628595 M * daniel_hozac hi 1197628808 M * kris Does anyone have a v2.2 patch which works with CFS Scheduler? 1197628820 M * daniel_hozac no. 1197628941 M * kris Is there any preliminary patches for 2.6.24 that I can base one on? 1197628993 M * daniel_hozac not yet. 1197629242 M * awk hmm, is there a list of grsec modules that shouldn't be enabled to have a stable working vserver solution? 1197629261 M * awk eg, I know not to enable chroot restrictions to a point 1197629311 M * daniel_hozac i assume you've read the README? 1197629405 M * awk which specific readme? 1197629408 Q * JonB Quit: This computer has gone to sleep 1197629430 M * daniel_hozac http://people.linux-vserver.org/~harry/_README_ 1197629438 M * awk thank you 1197629439 M * awk :) 1197629440 J * JonB ~NoSuchUse@kg1-98.kollegiegaarden.dk 1197629815 P * friendly12345 1197630193 Q * JonB Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1197630201 J * lilalinux ~plasma@dslb-084-058-194-174.pools.arcor-ip.net 1197631315 J * virtuoso_ ~s0t0na@ppp91-122-138-216.pppoe.avangard-dsl.ru 1197631582 Q * Aiken Quit: Leaving 1197631726 Q * virtuoso Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1197632079 J * ViRUS ~mp@p57A6D8C7.dip.t-dialin.net 1197633143 M * awk daniel_hozac you had any issues with selinux being enabled? 1197633146 M * awk or best to disable it? 1197633191 M * daniel_hozac if your policy supports vservers, i don't see why it would be a problem.... 1197633228 M * awk and pax? 1197633290 M * daniel_hozac never used it. 1197633327 M * awk I only really want to use Sanitize all freed memory 1197633403 M * ViRUS btw. does enabling SELinux make any sense when having no security policies defined? 1197633416 M * daniel_hozac not really. 1197633444 M * ViRUS I just enabled GRsecurity for the kernel I'm using now and found SELinux being a bit overcomplex... sure it's mighty, but it adds zero benefit when having no time to define good policies, does it? 1197633455 M * ViRUS are there any pre-made policies one can use for a standard vserver setup? 1197633462 M * awk that would be nice :) 1197633584 M * ViRUS The kernel I'm using right now adds all grsecurity restrictions that are possible to use with vserver, dynamic modules were disabled alltogether and I removed all the hardware drivers for hardware I don't have... so I got a 3 MB monolith with everything builtin and dangerous stuff like /dev/kmem /dev/mem... gone. :) 1197633594 M * daniel_hozac there's no such thing as a "standard vserver setup". 1197633610 M * ViRUS Though, a SElinux profile could add just a bit more :) 1197633683 M * ViRUS daniel_hozac, I've never used SELinux so far so I might be terribly wrong, but wouldn't it be possible to define a profile for a Debian Stable which can start any amount of vservers and each vserver being able to start up only a server at port 80 and 21? ... that'd be pretty standard imho. ;) 1197633745 M * daniel_hozac standard for you, not for me. 1197633759 M * daniel_hozac policies are inherently site-specific. 1197633800 M * ViRUS ye, but it's a good 'starting base' ... not that my setup would look like that - but 'most' root server owners need exactly something like that... maybe add a few more restrictions, but then they're good. 1197633812 M * ViRUS it would be nice to have something to start with 1197633836 J * Infinito argos@200-103-110-89.gnace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br 1197634738 Q * Abaddon Quit: leaving 1197634973 J * JonB ~NoSuchUse@130.227.63.19 1197635512 M * awk hmr, how do I get rid of this long string 1197635514 M * awk CONFIG/linux-source-2.6.22.12grsecurity-grsec2.1.11-vs2.2.0.5 1197635522 M * awk and just have it linux-source-2.6.22-grsec ? 1197635712 M * awk see its building the kernel too look like this linux-image-2.6.22.12grsecurity-grsec2.1.11-vs2.2.0.5 1197635713 M * awk :P 1197635782 M * harry_ awk: localversion file in the kernel tree root 1197635870 M * harry_ there is a localversion-grsec and a localversion-vserver file 1197635874 M * awk yes 1197635876 M * awk I see them 1197635881 M * awk and I see conf.vars with some info 1197635884 M * harry_ containing the strings appended to the version stuff 1197635888 M * awk correct 1197635894 M * harry_ remove/adjust them 1197635898 M * awk great :) 1197635923 M * harry_ the patch also applies to 2.6.22.14... 1197635929 M * harry_ better take the last one of the series :) 1197635956 M * awk :P 1197636026 M * awk exec debian/rules DEBIAN_REVISION=2.6.22.12grsecurity-grsec2.1.11-vs2.2.0.5-10.00.Custom APPEND_TO_VERSION=-grsecurity INITRD=YES kernel_image kernel_headers 1197636040 M * awk hrm I moved the file away and it still picking up the DEBIAN_REVISION from somewhere 1197636041 J * hparker ~hparker@linux.homershut.net 1197636046 M * awk I removed it out conf.vars too 1197636057 M * awk thats a ugly looking kernel :P 1197636082 M * harry_ true 1197636084 J * marv ~marv@modemcable128.145-80-70.mc.videotron.ca 1197636090 M * awk any other sugestions? 1197636099 M * awk im busy pulling 22.14 1197636101 M * harry_ you don't use stock kernel? 1197636123 N * marv Guest170 1197636138 M * harry_ where does the debian stuff come from? 1197636146 M * awk from my old .config 1197636156 N * Guest170 _marv 1197636157 M * harry_ ah 1197636169 M * harry_ just remove the -grsecurity in that config 1197636176 M * harry_ then recompile 1197636184 M * awk ok thanks 1197636189 M * harry_ and remove the localversion-* files 1197636197 M * harry_ or adapt, or ... 1197636200 M * awk k 1197636203 M * awk then make clean? 1197636205 M * harry_ yes 1197636210 M * awk kewl beans 1197636479 M * _marv i'm running my guest with debian etch... my rlimits/as and rss are set to 32768 (128megs) and just default small etch with ssh/apache i get memory alloc errors.... why? 128megs should be enouf... 1197636654 Q * sharkjaw Quit: Leaving 1197636754 M * awk harry_ is an ofset of 3 lines ok? 1197636757 M * awk offset even 1197636771 M * awk and 20 lines? 1197636851 M * harry_ ? 1197636854 M * harry_ yes 1197636859 M * harry_ i checked myself ;) 1197636863 M * awk ok thanks :) 1197636871 M * harry_ i'm running that kernel 1197636892 M * harry_ it's a bit useless to make a new patch for those offsets (that are correct anyways :)) 1197636955 M * awk I removed conf.vars and it fixed my naming structure 1197636973 M * awk I guess it gets gerenated when compiling 1197636984 M * awk but what appends you add 1197637046 J * Abaddon abaddon@68-71.is.net.pl 1197638097 Q * pflanze Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1197638205 J * Pyxcad ~jircii@81-174-56-148.static.ngi.it 1197639363 M * daniel_hozac _marv: not for AS. 1197639448 M * _marv not for AS? meaning leave AS blank? 1197639480 M * daniel_hozac meaning, you probably want AS to be something like 10 times the amount of RSS, at least. 1197639534 M * _marv neways i got some reading todo on that i dont get half the terms... 1197639537 J * alex__ ~alex@tui75-2-82-229-179-123.fbx.proxad.net 1197639539 M * _marv thx thow 1197639578 M * alex__ hi 1197639590 M * daniel_hozac hello 1197639608 M * alex__ I've a problem with to vserver on the same physical box and I can't ping my 2 vserver each others 1197639621 M * _marv netmask/broadcast? 1197639623 M * daniel_hozac iptables? 1197639634 M * alex__ I've set nothing in iptables 1197639635 M * Pyxcad Hello I'm building a qmail vserver, qmail use supervise, and installs in svcscanboot in inittab, but it doesn't start at boot, how do i make it start at boot correctly in a vserver ? 1197639662 M * alex__ I setup a masquerade rules with iptables sorry 1197639668 M * daniel_hozac Pyxcad: if you want to run things from inittab, you need to use the plain initstyle. 1197639686 M * daniel_hozac alex__: what does the rule look like? 1197639793 M * Pyxcad daniel_hozac: where can I find some docs about plain initstyle ? 1197639817 M * daniel_hozac http://linux-vserver.org/util-vserver:InitStyles 1197639817 M * _marv Pyxcad, u want to know how /etc/init.d /etc/rcX.d/ work? 1197639826 J * Julius ~julius@p57B25E2B.dip.t-dialin.net 1197639948 N * Julius StOaN 1197640047 M * Pyxcad daniel_hozac: thank you, but do you think it is better to use plain init or simply modify sysv startup to add svcscanboot? 1197640047 Q * ensc Read error: Connection reset by peer 1197640098 J * ensc ~irc-ensc@77.235.182.26 1197640173 Q * mugwump Quit: leaving 1197640458 Q * StOaN Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1197640522 M * Pyxcad it is correct if I add svscanboot at the end of /etc/rc2.d/S99rc.local ? 1197640953 M * daniel_hozac sure... 1197641134 Q * Abaddon Quit: leaving 1197641161 J * StOaN ~julius@p57B25E2B.dip.t-dialin.net 1197641497 M * Pyxcad it didn't work... I have to set it up as I would run the svscanboot command from shell once boot is completed. 1197641785 M * Pyxcad Ok I'll use plain init... but I'd like to learn how to do it in the sysv mode... 1197642157 J * meandtheshell ~sa@85-127-137-224.dynamic.adsl-line.inode.at 1197642239 J * shuri ~shuri@64.235.209.226 1197642262 J * doener ~doener@i577B995E.versanet.de 1197642678 Q * doener_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1197643010 Q * larsivi Quit: Konversation terminated! 1197643177 Q * fs Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1197643744 J * fs fs@213.178.77.98 1197643895 J * pflanze ~chris@vslab-dhcp-18.inf.ethz.ch 1197644008 M * alex__ I need to mount nfs inside a vserver; I add in the fstab the mount point; the problem is that statd is not launched inside the vserver when it try to mount it 1197644029 M * alex__ how to let it mount after the nfs-common start? 1197644049 M * ard6 you don't mount from within the vserver 1197644060 M * ard6 because the vserver is not allowed to 1197644086 M * alex__ yes and I dont want to give it the capabilities to do it 1197644107 M * ard6 You can put it in the /etc/vservers/../fstab 1197644124 M * daniel_hozac you want fstab.remote. 1197644125 M * ard6 and to do it on the fly you have to use vnamespace 1197644127 M * ard6 ah 1197644137 A * ard6 always used bind ;-) 1197644181 M * alex__ I dosn't know fstab.remote 1197644186 M * alex__ I'll have a look thx 1197644805 J * _fs fs@213.178.77.98 1197644827 Q * fs Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1197645402 Q * JonB Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1197645522 J * fs fs@213.178.77.98 1197645627 Q * _fs Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1197646483 Q * fs Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1197646715 M * alex__ I still get that : mount.nfs: rpc.statd is not running but is required for remote locking. 1197646715 M * alex__ Either use '-o nolocks' to keep locks local, or start statd. 1197646729 M * alex__ when I start the vserver 1197646831 J * amaxik ~a@r5ct9.net.upc.cz 1197646836 M * amaxik hi all 1197646856 M * amaxik daniel_hozac have found a very strange issue 1197646868 M * amaxik gentoo host/guest 1197646882 M * amaxik on gentoo host any application running well. 1197646899 M * amaxik inside guest, the service have a broken PATH variable. 1197646912 M * _marv http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/vps/vserver-howto.xml 1197646924 M * _marv i fallowed that 1197646933 M * _marv and had 0 probs with gentoo host/guest 1197646948 M * amaxik PATH=/bin:/sbin:/usr/bin!??:/usr/sbin 1197646948 M * _marv what stage4 did you use? 1197646966 J * Flinx ~Flinx@86.57.216.113 1197646988 M * amaxik well, no matter what stage4. 1197646993 M * amaxik its recompiled totally 1197647004 M * Flinx Hello! 1197647008 M * amaxik is that a baselayout issue ? 1197647021 M * Flinx I'm about installing X on vserver. 1197647021 M * amaxik my sys-apps/baselayout-2.0.0_rc6 1197647021 M * _marv how did u build the guest? 1197647025 M * daniel_hozac the !?? letters are actually in there? 1197647031 M * amaxik YES 1197647040 M * amaxik daniel_hozac yes! or any other RANDOM 1197647046 J * dowdle ~dowdle@scott.coe.montana.edu 1197647047 M * _marv oh i didnt evean notice those 1197647047 M * _marv hahaha 1197647055 M * amaxik PATH=/bin:/sbin:/usr/bin!:/usr/sbin?B+ 1197647080 M * amaxik this is PATH inside guests. (inside some guests) 1197647086 M * amaxik dont know why.. 1197647107 M * hparker PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/opt/bin:/usr/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/gcc-bin/4.1.2:/usr/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/gcc-bin/4.1.2 1197647113 M * amaxik nono 1197647114 M * Hollow amaxik: which util-vserver version? 1197647115 M * hparker From a guest I installed last night 1197647148 M * amaxik echo $PATH doing well. Im watching PATH from -running- service. like ps faxe|grep PATH 1197647164 M * amaxik Hollow 2.6.22-vs2.3.0.28-gentoo 1197647165 M * Hollow hm, n/m, the PATH patch only applies to vserver ... stop 1197647195 M * _marv thats not util-vserver 1197647203 M * Flinx Hello! 1197647203 M * Flinx Can i ask about install X on vserver guest OS? 1197647212 M * _marv neways i gotta get back to my stuff :P 1197647212 M * Flinx I wonder how to create tty 1197647225 M * Flinx on vserver guest OS 1197647230 M * amaxik i cant understand, why echo $PATH is ok inside guest, but for -running- service in guest PATH is wrong! 1197647280 M * Flinx Can somebody help me with installation X on guest OS? 1197647289 M * daniel_hozac Flinx: copy the device nodes from the host. 1197647291 J * yarihm ~yarihm@whitehead2.nine.ch 1197647312 M * Flinx hmm 1197647317 M * Flinx How to do that? 1197647339 M * Flinx I have some experience in linux but i don't know how to do that. 1197647359 M * Flinx Where can i read about this? 1197647373 M * daniel_hozac man cp 1197647391 M * _marv lol 1197647430 M * Flinx :) 1197647448 M * Flinx yes, it's funny 1197647459 M * Flinx device nodes are in /dev 1197647487 M * Flinx just copy /dev/tty* to guest os? 1197647496 M * daniel_hozac just the ones you need... 1197647506 M * Flinx i see 1197647509 M * Flinx ok thanks 1197647644 M * Flinx i just connected with mc to guest os trough ssh and tryed to copy tty* files 1197647661 M * Flinx this does not work 1197647665 M * Flinx mc returns error 1197647668 M * amaxik pplz.. any ideas to PATH corrution issue ? 1197647712 M * Flinx i thought i should use /dev/MAKEDEV script 1197647718 M * Flinx this is true? 1197647836 M * Hollow amaxik: sorry, no idea .. try to make a small init script that only print $PATH and see what it does .. 1197647841 M * Hollow maybe it is a baselayout issue 1197647862 M * amaxik Hollow i have found bug. 1197647870 M * amaxik Hollow this is new baselayout 1197647894 M * amaxik with sys-apps/baselayout-vserver all doing well! 1197647901 M * amaxik with sys-apps/baselayout all broken 1197647906 M * amaxik nice ?! 1197647910 M * Hollow baselayout-vserver is not supported anymore 1197647917 M * Flinx can somebody help me with creating tty? 1197647917 M * amaxik but it works. 1197647924 M * Flinx in guest os? 1197647932 M * Hollow i have about 60 vservers with baselayout-2 running, all work fine :) 1197647936 M * daniel_hozac Flinx: just copy it... 1197647942 M * Flinx i tryed to copy 1197647948 M * Flinx using mc 1197647955 M * Flinx trough ssh 1197647957 M * daniel_hozac cp -a /dev/ttyX /vservers//dev/ 1197647964 M * amaxik Hollow, try ps faxe|grep PATH inside guest? 1197647966 M * Flinx ahh, this 1197647981 M * Flinx thank you 1197647996 M * Hollow amaxik: yep, all fine here 1197648049 M * amaxik Hollow which version of sys-apps/baselayout have used ? 1197648055 M * Hollow rc6 1197648099 M * Hollow please try what i suggested, could be s-s-d related 1197648106 M * Hollow and/or runscript 1197648132 J * JonB ~NoSuchUse@kg1-98.kollegiegaarden.dk 1197648284 M * amaxik Hollow, yes.. anything has runned via runscript got a broken path 1197648355 Q * amaxik 1197648428 M * Hollow daniel_hozac: btw, something i wanted to ask for a long time now ... wouldnÄt it be a good idea to use the hosts /etc/resolv.conf if none is configured in /etc/vservers/.defaults? 1197648429 J * amaxik ~a@r5ct9.net.upc.cz 1197648531 P * Pyxcad 1197648845 M * daniel_hozac Hollow: i don't know... copying stuff from the host by default is potentially bad. 1197648896 M * Hollow /etc/vservers in on the host too ;) 1197648901 M * Hollow just kidding .. 1197648914 M * Hollow you're probably right 1197649017 M * Flinx It is possible to install packages on guest OS from DVDs? I have installed guest OS (Debian etch) from Debian DVD and i want to install packages from debian DVDs. It is possible? 1197649032 Q * meandtheshell Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1197649033 M * daniel_hozac sure. 1197649044 M * daniel_hozac just use -m cdrom:/dev/xyz or some such. 1197649067 M * Flinx I installed Debian from DVD this is done. 1197649082 M * Flinx But how to install PACKAGES with apt-get from guest OS? 1197649093 M * Flinx from Debian DVD's 1197649125 M * sid3windr add the apt source to the dvd 1197649139 M * Flinx from guest os? 1197649146 M * Flinx using cdrom:/ 1197649147 M * Flinx ? 1197649151 Q * gebura Remote host closed the connection 1197649158 M * sid3windr yes 1197649159 M * Flinx ok 1197649160 M * sid3windr hm 1197649161 M * sid3windr good point 1197649167 M * Flinx thanks 1197649168 M * sid3windr the device has to be accessible in the gues :/ 1197649169 M * sid3windr t 1197649177 M * sid3windr HMM :) 1197649212 M * daniel_hozac you could mount it from the host inside the guest. 1197649335 M * Flinx hmm, nice! 1197649842 N * Bertl_oO Bertl 1197649854 M * Bertl evening folks! 1197649860 M * daniel_hozac evening Bertl! 1197649875 M * Flinx evening Bertl! 1197649943 J * WDTY ~chatzilla@88.159.1.100 1197649977 M * lilalinux tach auch 1197650001 M * Flinx It is possible to get all mailing lists to my gmail? I have subscribed to vserver mailing list, but i can get only latest mails and i want to have it all locally. 1197650065 M * WDTY Hi,if i check my dmesg I`m getting the following error: [BUG: warning at include/net/dst.h:153/dst_release() (Not tainted)] after that I got and traceback: 1197650070 M * WDTY [] dump_trace+0x69/0x1af 1197650072 M * WDTY Dec 14 17:28:28 eduvpa-01 kernel: [] show_trace_log_lvl+0x18/0x2c 1197650073 M * WDTY Dec 14 17:28:28 eduvpa-01 kernel: [] show_trace+0xf/0x11 1197650075 M * WDTY Dec 14 17:28:28 eduvpa-01 kernel: [] dump_stack+0x15/0x17 1197650077 M * WDTY Dec 14 17:28:28 eduvpa-01 kernel: [] udp_sendmsg+0x5eb/0x6a1 1197650078 M * WDTY Dec 14 17:28:28 eduvpa-01 kernel: [] inet_sendmsg+0x3b/0x45 1197650080 M * WDTY Dec 14 17:28:28 eduvpa-01 kernel: [] sock_sendmsg+0xd9/0x203 1197650081 M * WDTY Dec 14 17:28:28 eduvpa-01 kernel: [] sys_sendto+0x116/0x140 1197650083 M * WDTY Dec 14 17:28:28 eduvpa-01 kernel: [] sys_socketcall+0x15e/0x242 1197650084 M * WDTY Dec 14 17:28:28 eduvpa-01 kernel: [] syscall_call+0x7/0xb 1197650086 M * WDTY Dec 14 17:28:28 eduvpa-01 kernel: DWARF2 unwinder stuck at syscall_call+0x7/0xb 1197650088 M * sid3windr (pastebin) 1197650091 M * lilalinux O_o 1197650122 M * Flinx It is possible to get all vserver mailing lists to my gmail? I have subscribed to vserver mailing list, but i can get only latest mails and i want to have it all locally. 1197650125 M * WDTY I`m trying to fiend a solution, I dont know how to start. I checked the syscall_table 1197650216 M * WDTY My question is ,wich steps do I have to take to find a solution for this cause? 1197650227 M * WDTY srry for the paste 1197650262 Q * bored2sleep Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1197650276 M * amaxik daniel_hozac BTW.. we found issue. the bug IS exists in s-s-d 64bit. :-| 1197650276 M * daniel_hozac WDTY: which kernel? 1197650295 M * daniel_hozac amaxik: i have no idea what s-s-d is. 1197650440 M * amaxik daniel_hozac start-stop-daemon utility in gentoo for run services. ^) 1197650703 J * bored2sleep ~bored2sle@66-111-53-150.static.sagonet.net 1197650703 M * pflanze Hello. 1197650720 M * daniel_hozac hi 1197650729 M * pflanze I've got a vserver client which runs programs that access /sys for their workings. 1197650751 M * pflanze They run w/o problems if I just mount sysfs on /sys. But I guess that's not safe? 1197650759 M * pflanze (secure, that is) 1197650774 M * pflanze (esp. when I'm mounting it rw..) 1197650802 M * pflanze Any tip? (I didn't find anything regarding sysfs on the website) 1197650870 M * daniel_hozac yes, sysfs isn't safe. 1197650895 M * pflanze So what do I do? 1197650920 J * meandtheshell ~sa@85.127.111.137 1197650926 M * pflanze I didn't check yet whether the programs would work with a ro mounted sysfs, would that be safe? 1197650997 M * pflanze Flinx: well, can you import mails in mbox format into google? 1197651009 M * Bertl what program is that which needs /sys ? 1197651031 M * pflanze Bertl: it's tinyos.org development utils 1197651052 M * pflanze they are scanning for attached "mote" devices. 1197651058 M * Bertl and why do the need /sys? 1197651061 Q * JonB Quit: This computer has gone to sleep 1197651085 M * Flinx about mounting cdrom on guest OS: 1197651085 M * Flinx what should i add to fstab in device section? 1197651085 M * Flinx i have added to fstab this: 1197651085 M * Flinx cdrom:/ /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0 0 1197651086 M * Flinx and created `/media/cdrom0` directory 1197651086 M * Flinx then tryed to: 1197651087 M * pflanze Well, dunno.. they just give errors with unprecise messages if it's not present. 1197651088 M * Flinx #mount /media/cdrom0 1197651088 M * Flinx and i have error msg: `mount: permission denied` 1197651090 M * Flinx what did i wrong? 1197651103 J * fs fs@213.178.77.98 1197651120 M * Bertl pflanze: then go and check the source ... 1197651147 A * WDTY is off to have some weekend! 1197651152 M * pflanze One of the programs is in perl, I think I could change that, but then the whole build system is doing the scanning as well through other means, so I guess I should be prepared for some work to do. 1197651155 Q * WDTY Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.79 [Firefox 2.0.0.11/2007112718] 1197651177 M * Bertl Flinx: why are you trying to mount the cdrom from _within_ the guest? 1197651194 A * pflanze is going off checking sources 1197651240 M * Bertl pflanze: if they just 'look around' in sysfs, I would fake a minimal sysfs tree 1197651265 M * pflanze by copying files you mean? 1197651287 M * pflanze problem is those files surely adapt when I plug in and out motes 1197651298 M * pflanze but yeah, I'll see 1197651309 M * Bertl yes, only fake files to make the scripts happy 1197651347 M * pflanze (smeels like udev scripts :)) 1197651362 M * pflanze (for triggering new copies) 1197651449 M * daniel_hozac what is it that you're trying to accomplish? 1197651463 M * Bertl pflanze: why would you care about a) being in sync with the host, and b) providing accorate information 1197651525 M * Bertl *accurate +? 1197651532 M * Flinx daniel_hozac: about mounting cdrom on guest OS: 1197651532 M * Flinx what should i add to fstab in device section? 1197651532 M * Flinx i have added to fstab this: 1197651532 M * Flinx cdrom:/ /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0 0 1197651532 M * Flinx and created `/media/cdrom0` directory 1197651534 M * Flinx then tryed to: 1197651534 M * Flinx #mount /media/cdrom0 1197651536 M * Flinx and i have error msg: `mount: permission denied` 1197651536 M * Flinx what did i wrong? 1197651563 M * Bertl Flinx: please reduce your spamming and read what we write 1197651585 M * Flinx sorry, seems like i missed something 1197651623 M * pflanze Bertl: when a new device is plugged in (through usb), the tools must be aware of it and be able to talk with it. If I plug it out again, they shouldn't be presented with information about a non-existent device. 1197651647 M * pflanze Note: it's not a problem I expect you to spend work on. 1197651654 M * Bertl pflanze: so you are allowing your guest to interact with arbitrary devices? 1197651664 M * pflanze In this case it's just about making sure my buddy can't get to my main host. 1197651672 Q * Alikus Remote host closed the connection 1197651690 M * Bertl pflanze: if you do so, your 'buddy' is already there (on the host :) 1197651704 M * pflanze Bertl: not arbitrary, just one kind of usb devices (I can detect them in the host through udev, which I'll have to do for copying /dev devices anyway) 1197651748 M * pflanze (He can get at the mouse and the keyboard anyway, so there's nothing wrong with accessing the usb bus I guess.) 1197651783 M * Bertl he has physical access to the machine? 1197651810 M * Bertl if so, no need to mess with security :) 1197651825 M * pflanze Yeah. Of course he could plug out power and reboot with a rescue cd and copy all my stuff ;). But I'm more concerned about him logging in from random windows machines which might be hacked, so it's less about him personally. 1197651951 P * Flinx 1197651964 J * Flinx ~Flinx@86.57.216.113 1197652051 Q * lilalinux Quit: Leaving 1197652574 P * Flinx 1197652588 J * Flinx ~Flinx@86.57.216.113 1197652738 J * click click@ti511110a080-0234.bb.online.no 1197652801 J * pme ~pme@ACaen-152-1-81-146.w83-115.abo.wanadoo.fr 1197652832 N * pme Guest184 1197652866 Q * Guest184 1197652930 J * pmenier ~pme@ACaen-152-1-81-146.w83-115.abo.wanadoo.fr 1197652933 M * Flinx pflanze: No, i can't import mbox files into google, but i can import to evolution. 1197653066 M * Flinx pflanze: I thought mailing system can send all mails to some subscriber. Is this possible? 1197653102 M * daniel_hozac you might be able to get the mbox files from sladen. 1197653181 M * Flinx sladen: Can i get mbox files for all vserver mailing lists from you? 1197653382 M * sladen Flinx: give or take 1197653419 M * sladen Flinx: the last years might be short of 5% of messages; I haven't spent the time recovering 100% of messages after things overflowed or broke 1197653510 M * Flinx sladen: so, maybe you can give me messages for last few months? or messages for 2007? 1197653607 M * Bertl Flinx: btw, what is the purpose to upload the archives to your mail account? 1197653646 M * Flinx sladen: not to my account, but just to my pc. 1197653685 M * Flinx sladen: i thought system can do that automatically. If not - then not need. I don't want to take you time for this. 1197653698 J * _gh_ ~gerrit@1406chost40.starwoodbroadband.com 1197653725 M * sladen Flinx: wget http://archives.linux-vserver.org/2007{0{1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9},1{0,1,2}}/mbox 1197653743 M * Flinx sladen: thank you very much! 1197653758 M * sladen Flinx: tell me when you're one an I'll chmod them back again 1197653838 M * Flinx sladen: ok 1197653878 M * sladen Flinx: does that mean "done"? 1197653892 J * bragon ~bragon@2001:7a8:aa58::1 1197653976 M * Flinx sladen: no 1197654007 M * Bertl wb bragon! 1197654023 M * Flinx sladen: downloading oct messages (200705) 1197654038 M * Flinx sladen: sorry, may (200705) 1197654361 M * Flinx sladen: ok, thank you. i have downloaded. 1197654605 M * Flinx Can somebody tell me. Is VServer a good idea for building 8 - headed multi seat? I know Soewono Effendi did 2 - headed multi - seat with Ubuntu. 1197655378 Q * pmenier Quit: Konversation terminated! 1197655414 J * pmenier ~pme@ACaen-152-1-81-146.w83-115.abo.wanadoo.fr 1197655793 J * flinx_ ~chatzilla@86.57.216.113 1197655829 P * Flinx 1197655931 J * Flinx ~Flinx@86.57.216.113 1197655948 P * Flinx 1197656084 Q * flinx_ Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.79 [Firefox 2.0.0.11/2007112718] 1197656296 J * Flinx ~Flinx@86.57.216.113 1197656496 M * Flinx Is somebody tryed to build multi-seat X with Linux-VServer? 1197656567 N * pmenier pmenier_off 1197656594 J * DavidS ~david@p57A49041.dip0.t-ipconnect.de 1197656618 Q * balbir Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1197656679 M * Bertl Flinx: besides the MoreUbuntu project, not that I know of 1197657263 J * balbir ~balbir@122.167.179.170 1197657887 P * Flinx 1197658236 J * cedric ~cedric@rny93-2-82-66-66-30.fbx.proxad.net 1197658812 Q * yarihm Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1197658893 J * Blissex ~Blissex@82-69-39-138.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk 1197660373 Q * bragon Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1197660544 Q * Blissex Remote host closed the connection 1197660621 J * Abaddon abaddon@68-71.is.net.pl 1197660646 J * Piet ~piet@tor.noreply.org 1197661380 Q * Piet Quit: Piet 1197661964 J * Piet ~piet@tor.noreply.org 1197662833 J * ema ~ema@rtfm.galliera.it 1197662961 J * larsivi ~larsivi@144.84-48-50.nextgentel.com 1197665854 Q * ema Quit: leaving 1197666021 Q * pmenier_off Quit: Konversation terminated! 1197666039 Q * Piet Quit: Piet 1197666297 P * meandtheshell Leaving. 1197666389 N * DoberMann DoberMann[PullA] 1197666694 Q * Hollow Remote host closed the connection 1197667520 J * Aiken ~james@ppp121-45-246-228.lns2.bne4.internode.on.net 1197667626 J * Hollow ~hollow@proteus.croup.de 1197668466 J * bonbons ~bonbons@2001:960:7ab:0:20b:5dff:fec7:6b33 1197669587 Q * DavidS Quit: Leaving. 1197670014 Q * hparker Quit: Quit 1197670183 J * dennis_ ~dennis@dslb-084-059-210-001.pools.arcor-ip.net 1197671063 Q * bonbons Quit: Leaving 1197672177 Q * mire Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1197672249 Q * dna Quit: Verlassend 1197672768 M * Bertl welcome dennis_! 1197672811 J * gm_ ~randall@host248-111-dynamic.8-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it 1197672973 Q * gm Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1197673996 J * gm ~randall@host144-22-dynamic.8-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it 1197674163 Q * StOaN Quit: Verlassend 1197674288 Q * gm_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1197674302 M * dennis_ hi bertl. :) 1197674325 M * Bertl hehe :) 1197674542 M * dennis_ mh. based the vserver-sources on hardened- or gentoo-sources? 1197674564 M * Bertl by default, Linux-VServer is based on vanilla sources 1197674602 M * dennis_ oh sorry, i mean the package "vserver-sources" on gentoo linux. 1197674625 M * Bertl Hollow will know ... 1197674661 M * Hollow dennis_: vserver-sources uses genpatches (i.e. it is based on gentoo-sources) 1197674722 M * dennis_ oh, okay... its possible to merge the two packages hardened-sources and vserver-sources? 1197674743 M * dennis_ => vserver-sources with hardened-features (like selinux, etc.) ;) 1197674757 M * Hollow not easily, but there is a grsec rediff available from http://people.linux-vserver.org/~harry/ 1197674765 M * Bertl dennis_: what do you want selinux for when you got Linux-VServer? 1197674770 M * Hollow selinux is in vanilla 1197674774 M * daniel_hozac SELinux should work OOTB with Linux-VServer... 1197674800 M * Bertl and it does, given a proper policy 1197674871 M * dennis_ okay, so you mean the vserver-sources doesn't nead any security-feature from hardened-sources? 1197674930 M * Bertl well, it depends on what you plan to do 1197674965 M * Bertl if you are going to use services on the host system (and ignore Linux-VServer features) then you might want some of those security enhancements 1197674969 M * dennis_ i'll install a webserver (mail, www-data, svn, etc.) 1197675001 M * dennis_ i think all services are vserver-guests. ;) 1197675027 M * Bertl in that case, you will only complicate life if you go for e.g. SELinux 1197675124 M * dennis_ oh... the life is complicated enough ;) 1197675150 M * Bertl was my impression too :) 1197676061 Q * larsivi Quit: Konversation terminated! 1197676179 J * JonB ~NoSuchUse@kg1-98.kollegiegaarden.dk 1197676289 M * daniel_hozac Hollow: ping 1197676311 M * daniel_hozac Hollow: trac for the kernel, how would i add a user? 1197676325 M * daniel_hozac or do i already have a user and i just don't know it? :) 1197676397 M * Hollow daniel_hozac: good question .. it wasn't design for users until now .. will fix that tomorrow 1197676426 M * daniel_hozac okay, np 1197676451 M * Hollow off to bed then .. good night everyone! 1197676464 M * Bertl have a good one! 1197676471 M * daniel_hozac good night! 1197676478 M * dennis_ good night 1197676485 Q * shuri Quit: Leaving