1195084911 J * rgl ~rgl@84.90.8.124
1195084915 M * rgl hi guys!
1195085010 M * rgl how can I create a node inside the guest from the host?
1195085024 M * rgl (a device node with something like mknod)
1195085166 M * PowerKe mknod /vservers/guest/dev/node <attribs> (or copy it from the host)
1195085235 M * rgl oh, I can do a ln from inside the guest!
1195085244 M * rgl (I wanted to run a chroot inside the guest)
1195085283 M * rgl PowerKe, I see. thx.  I don't mount the guest FS on the host, so I would have to shutdown the guest for doing that.
1195085438 Q * hparker Quit: reboot
1195085707 M * rgl I was with the impression that we can use a vsomething to execute command with higher privilege inside the guest.
1195085711 J * hparker ~hparker@linux.homershut.net
1195085812 M * rgl dang. I gotta run.  bye!
1195085885 Q * rgl Quit: Enough
1195086249 M * Guy- rgl: vnamespace -e XID mknod /vservers/guest/dev/node
1195086559 Q * yarihm Quit: Leaving
1195087121 N * AStorm Guest713
1195087127 J * AStorm ~astralsto@tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net
1195087426 Q * Guest713 Remote host closed the connection
1195088000 Q * dowdle Remote host closed the connection
1195088693 Q * AStorm Remote host closed the connection
1195088729 J * AStorm ~astralsto@tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net
1195089539 J * b0tz ~nnscript@75-120-62-110.dyn.centurytel.net
1195089542 P * b0tz 
1195089888 J * igraltist ~user4@kasten-edv.de
1195089897 J * liona29 ~liona29@d033.dhcp212-198-248.noos.fr
1195090016 Q * liona29 
1195090256 J * camgirl29 ~camgirl29@ANantes-257-1-109-241.w90-25.abo.wanadoo.fr
1195090386 Q * camgirl29 
1195090707 Q * Hunger Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1195091115 J * Hunger Hunger.hu@213.163.11.138
1195092646 J * SertacbaLci ~Srtc@85.98.9.70
1195092650 P * SertacbaLci 
1195092750 J * Hollow_ ~hollow@proteus.croup.de
1195092973 Q * Hollow Read error: Connection reset by peer
1195092989 N * Hollow_ Hollow
1195095442 J * Loki_muh loki@satanix.de
1195095442 Q * Loki|muh Read error: Connection reset by peer
1195095449 N * Loki_muh Loki|muh
1195097823 J * FireEgl FireEgl@4.0.0.0.1.0.0.0.c.d.4.8.0.c.5.0.1.0.0.2.ip6.arpa
1195098389 N * neuralis_ neuralis
1195099819 Q * grobie Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1195100156 J * grobie ~grobie@master.schnuckelig.eu
1195106907 J * balbir ~balbir@122.167.179.130
1195107041 J * sharkjaw ~gab@shell.ormset.no
1195107377 Q * sharkjaw Remote host closed the connection
1195107397 J * sharkjaw ~gab@shell.ormset.no
1195108799 Q * balbir Remote host closed the connection
1195108898 J * balbir ~balbir@122.167.179.130
1195109180 Q * balbir Remote host closed the connection
1195109742 J * dna ~dna@236-241-dsl.kielnet.net
1195109967 J * balbir ~balbir@122.167.179.130
1195112041 Q * hparker Quit: g'nite
1195112915 Q * dna Quit: Verlassend
1195113164 M * arekm [root@carme /vservers]# vserver v-conflux2 delete
1195113164 M * arekm Are you sure you want to delete the vserver v-conflux2 (y/N) y
1195113164 M * arekm /bin/rm: cannot remove directory `/home/vservers/v-conflux2/proc': Device or resource busy
1195113167 M * arekm /bin/rm: cannot remove directory `/home/vservers/v-conflux2/.rpmdb': Device or resource busy
1195113170 M * arekm known thing?
1195113991 Q * balbir Remote host closed the connection
1195114051 Q * AStorm Remote host closed the connection
1195114192 J * oddworker ~mario@mail2.reha-schotten.de
1195114308 J * AStorm ~astralsto@tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net
1195114582 J * JonB ~NoSuchUse@kg0-199.kollegiegaarden.dk
1195115119 J * DLange ~dlange@p57A30B9A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
1195115135 J * larsivi ~larsivi@85.221.53.194
1195115214 J * dna ~dna@236-241-dsl.kielnet.net
1195115465 J * gebura ~gebura@77.192.186.197
1195115485 J * Alikus ~alikus@217.150.200.212
1195115927 M * gebura hi
1195119139 Q * JonB Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1195119188 Q * gebura Quit: Quitte
1195119664 Q * friendly12345 Quit: Leaving.
1195119937 Q * larsivi Quit: Konversation terminated!
1195120113 J * larsivi ~larsivi@85.221.53.194
1195120342 J * JonB ~NoSuchUse@130.227.63.19
1195120645 Q * larsivi Quit: Konversation terminated!
1195120814 J * larsivi ~larsivi@85.221.53.194
1195120930 J * balbir ~balbir@122.167.179.130
1195120990 Q * balbir Remote host closed the connection
1195121055 Q * larsivi 
1195121156 J * virtuoso ~s0t0na@ppp91-122-138-105.pppoe.avangard-dsl.ru
1195121216 J * larsivi ~larsivi@85.221.53.194
1195121559 Q * virtuoso_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1195123000 J * meandtheshell ~sa@85.127.108.226
1195123000 J * DavidS ~david@86.59.70.100
1195123003 J * mael ~gl03@ysun.tirnamban.org
1195123363 M * JonB running dhcp server inside a vserver guest?
1195123551 Q * weasel Killed (NickServ (This nickname is registered and protected))
1195123605 J * weasel weasel@asteria.debian.or.at
1195123649 M * JonB Nov 15 11:47:04 frodo dhcpd: Open a socket for LPF: Operation not permitted
1195123694 Q * weasel Killed (NickServ (This nickname is registered and protected))
1195123705 J * weasel weasel@asteria.debian.or.at
1195123885 Q * DavidS Quit: Leaving.
1195123993 M * JonB found it
1195125074 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl_oO
1195125078 M * Bertl_oO morning folks!
1195125087 J * Punkie ~Punkie@goc.coolhousing.net
1195125163 M * mael lo Bertl_oO
1195125171 M * AStorm hello
1195125185 M * mael Bertl_oO: did you received the machine ok?
1195125207 M * arekm Bertl_oO: mording :)
1195125218 M * mael (the alphaworkstation)
1195125222 M * arekm Bertl_oO: any idea about 08:52 CET paste? :)
1195125330 M * Bertl_oO arekm: looks like you are deleting a running guest :)
1195125401 M * arekm Bertl_oO: cannot be, let me paste everything
1195125410 M * Bertl_oO mael: something was received, I'm not at home atm, so I couldn't check, but from outside (accrording to reports) the package is undamaged
1195125470 M * mael Bertl_oO: oh ok
1195125494 M * mael sorry I was anxious to know if it arrived ok and didn't realised that you could be away
1195125508 J * lilalinux ~plasma@80.69.41.3
1195125535 M * mael a debian was installed on it, I will send you the root password so you'll be able to play with it a bit before reinstalling
1195125550 A * arekm would like to have sparc64 based notebook if you are sending various things to people ;-)
1195125645 M * mael arekm: sorry I just have a sparcstation 5
1195125695 M * Bertl_oO mael: okay, great!
1195125728 M * mael I don't remember how I managed to do it but it currently runs debian with a raid1 config
1195125753 M * Bertl_oO nice
1195125783 M * arekm Bertl_oO: http://pld.pastebin.com/f682879f1
1195125848 M * Bertl_oO arekm: so something has mounted proc inside the guest dir
1195125857 M * Bertl_oO arekm: what util-vserver version is this?
1195125859 M * arekm there is no process running in context 8
1195125868 M * arekm util-vserver-0.30.214-3.x86_64
1195125890 M * arekm hm, maybe vpoldek is doing something bad.
1195125894 M * Bertl_oO could you try with a mainline version?
1195125915 M * arekm I'll try to track what's happning. No vpoldek in mainline afaik
1195125928 M * arekm Bertl_oO: can I somehow umount these now?
1195125960 M * arekm Bertl_oO: and see all mounts from guest contexts so I'll know what to umount?
1195126012 M * Bertl_oO well, if nothing in context 8 is running, then context specific namespaces are gone to
1195126050 M * arekm but the mount is there
1195126054 M * Bertl_oO so either the mount is on the host (check with /proc/mounts) or it is some kind of kernel bug
1195126085 M * arekm [root@carme ~]# rm -rf /vservers/v-conflux6
1195126085 M * arekm rm: cannot remove directory `/vservers/v-conflux6/proc': Device or resource busy
1195126088 M * arekm rm: cannot remove directory `/vservers/v-conflux6/.rpmdb': Device or resource busy
1195126091 M * arekm [root@carme ~]# cat /proc/mounts |grep rpmdb
1195126093 M * arekm [root@carme ~]#   
1195126120 M * Bertl_oO so, either the mounts are from a different context (if context 8) is missing
1195126145 M * Bertl_oO or we have a bug, what kernel version is that?
1195126233 M * arekm http://pld.pastebin.com/f13e1966d
1195126280 M * arekm 2.6.22.9 with vserver around 2.3.0.26 
1195126375 M * Bertl_oO well, upgrading there and testing wouldn't hurt
1195126387 M * Bertl_oO (especially for the devel/experimental releases)
1195126397 M * Bertl_oO any dmesg entries?
1195126401 M * Bertl_oO (unusual)
1195126453 M * arekm nothing usuall; latest vserver related are like this vxW: xid=100 messing with the procfs
1195126524 M * Bertl_oO please check if you can trigger/recreate it with recent (mainline) tools and kernel
1195126529 Q * ensc Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1195126569 J * ensc ~irc-ensc@p54B4CCB8.dip.t-dialin.net
1195126812 M * Bertl_oO off for now, back in about 3 hours ...
1195126819 Q * JonB Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1195126881 J * JonB ~NoSuchUse@130.227.63.19
1195127905 J * balbir ~balbir@122.167.179.130
1195128279 Q * oddworker Quit: Verlassend
1195128563 N * AStorm Guest759
1195128565 Q * Guest759 Remote host closed the connection
1195128567 J * AStorm ~astralsto@tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net
1195128569 Q * balbir Remote host closed the connection
1195128927 M * Loki|muh Hollow: is it intentionally that you ship 265MB files in /var/cache/ccache in your gentoo-vserver-stage3?
1195128982 M * Hollow no, blame catalyst
1195129044 J * Infinito argos@200-140-155-92.gnace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br
1195129089 M * Loki|muh I've extracted the stage4-amd64-20070905.tar.bz2 in a pre-built skeleton dir, tried initstyle plain and gentoo, but the vserver refuses to start properly. Am I missing something?
1195129377 M * Hollow did you run vserver-build with -d gentoo?
1195129468 M * Loki|muh no, thats the point, this will be hard to do since the vservers are on lvm-volumes and thus the target directory exists
1195129468 J * balbir ~balbir@122.167.179.130
1195129481 Q * balbir Remote host closed the connection
1195129527 M * Loki|muh --force moves the existing directory out of its way instead of writing to it :(
1195130201 J * lilalinux_ ~plasma@80.69.41.3
1195130201 Q * lilalinux Read error: Connection reset by peer
1195130210 J * laurensv ~laurensv@cable-87-244-174-48.upc.chello.be
1195130212 M * laurensv hello
1195130245 M * laurensv I'm having trouble setting up networking on my VServers...
1195130353 M * laurensv I have a host with a public ip, and vservers also with public ips, but I cannot figure out how to connect to the vservers with their public ips...
1195130394 M * laurensv I think I missed something somewhere...  Is there documentation available which explains the networking part?  I don't seem to find anything on the site...
1195130428 M * Loki|muh maybe the daemons on the host are binding on the ips of the guests, too
1195130480 M * laurensv well, for starters, do I need to configure something on the host system?
1195130725 M * laurensv hmmm, it seems I have to configure the host as a router according to the FAQ?
1195130837 N * AStorm Guest761
1195130841 J * AStorm ~astralsto@tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net
1195130866 Q * Guest761 Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1195130890 M * Loki|muh no, only if the guest ips are non-public and you want to masquerade them
1195130916 M * Loki|muh what happens if you try to ssh to a guest-ip?
1195130945 M * laurensv I don't have to create aliases or anything on the host system?
1195130947 M * laurensv lemme check
1195131475 M * laurensv sshd doesn't start in the guest, address already in use...
1195131499 M * laurensv also, I do not see an alias in the host for when I start the guest
1195131609 M * laurensv -for
1195131732 M * Loki|muh laurensv: edit /etc/ssh/sshd_config in the host to use only the hosts ip-adress (ListenAddress)
1195131929 M * laurensv k, that did the trick :)
1195131945 M * Loki|muh :)
1195131948 M * laurensv I mean sshd now runs
1195131978 M * Loki|muh but still no connection to the guest?
1195132001 M * laurensv nope
1195132040 M * laurensv I'm seeing on some guides on the net that there is an alias on the host for eth0 with the ip of the guest...
1195132139 M * Loki|muh the ip should be visible via ifconfig and ip a s from the host
1195132156 M * Loki|muh but inside a guest only 'ip a s' shows the correct result
1195132222 M * laurensv ifconfig only shows the host ip, ip a s shows 2 ips for eth0
1195132234 P * mael Ex-Chat
1195132558 M * daniel_hozac always use ip a s. ifconfig is ancient and broken.
1195132806 M * laurensv so there should not be a eth0:name alias via ifconfig
1195132847 M * daniel_hozac unless you specified that when you built the guest, no.
1195133072 M * laurensv how is it specified via the --interface param?
1195133110 M * daniel_hozac --interface xyz=...
1195133120 M * daniel_hozac but you don't need aliases. ever.
1195133316 M * laurensv k
1195133391 M * laurensv hmmm, what if my host is on a different network then the guests?
1195133406 M * daniel_hozac and you need to use a different router?
1195133423 M * laurensv yes
1195133463 M * daniel_hozac you're gonna need source-based routing then.
1195133494 M * daniel_hozac http://www.paul.sladen.org/vserver/archives/200311/0470.html
1195133575 Q * Punkie Remote host closed the connection
1195133792 M * arekm daniel_hozac: could you review http://cvs.pld-linux.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/~checkout~/SOURCES/util-vserver-pld.patch?rev=1.20;content-type=text%2Fplain ?
1195133843 M * daniel_hozac i have already reviewed all the PLD patches, so unless that's new..
1195133871 M * arekm daniel_hozac: that one is vpoldek support + pld distro configs
1195133926 M * laurensv Daniel, I have a box with 1 nic, I'll have to set up source-based routing on the host and the host will have to have an ip in the network of the guests, is that correct?
1195133942 M * daniel_hozac third hunk in distrib/Makefile.am is completely bogus.
1195133979 M * daniel_hozac laurensv: no, the host won't need an IP, as long as you enable the secondaries promotion in your kernel.
1195133998 M * arekm daniel_hozac: will fix this one
1195134025 M * laurensv is that in the vserver kernel config or somewhere in the net config?
1195134125 M * daniel_hozac /proc/sys/net/ipv4/conf/all/promote_secondaries
1195134348 M * laurensv thanks for your help, I'll see whether I can set this up a litte later...  I'll also update the wiki once I got everything figured out..  I'm trying to build Slack 12 vservers on a Slack 12, so...
1195134383 M * laurensv which is interesting seen that most guides are for Debian or Gentoo :)
1195134416 M * arekm daniel_hozac: btw. any reason for using bashizm like pushd, popd? could these be simply replaced by cdir=$PWD; something; cd $cdir?
1195134507 Q * Aiken Quit: Leaving
1195134516 M * daniel_hozac the scripts require bash for so many other reasons, so that would just be pointless.
1195134548 M * arekm daniel_hozac: really? they work well here on pdksh
1195134576 M * arekm ah, but #!/bin/bash, didn't notice it earlier
1195134597 M * daniel_hozac ... as i said, they require bash.
1195134624 M * arekm right.
1195135468 J * ema ~ema@rtfm.galliera.it
1195136234 J * shedi ~siggi@tolvudeild-199.lhi.is
1195136362 M * shedi Greetings, I have a debian host, and I have built a Fedora guest which fails to start with no output from the vserver command
1195136387 M * shedi maybe it has something to do with the init scripts on the guest?
1195136394 M * JonB shedi: kernel and util-vserver version
1195136446 M * shedi vs2.2.0.4 and 0.30.214-3~bpo.1
1195136478 M * JonB thats quite new
1195136489 M * shedi yes
1195136549 M * shedi I copied the f7 to f8 in distrubutions changed the mirrors and built the guest
1195136572 M * JonB how did you create it?
1195136591 M * shedi vserver powerguest build -m yum --hostname=powerguest --interface dummy0=eth0:10.0.0.123/8 --rootdir /var/lib/vservers -- -d f8 -- --arch i386
1195136621 M * shedi afterwards I changed the network settings
1195136671 Q * larsivi Quit: Konversation terminated!
1195136860 M * JonB the network settings?
1195136945 M * shedi yes, I changed the ip and prefix and took out the name file
1195137314 J * gebura ~gebura@77.192.186.197
1195137422 M * daniel_hozac what did you do exactly to get the f8 directory?
1195137430 J * ville83 ~ville83@gw.javerdel.com
1195137457 M * ville83 hello everybody how are you
1195137527 M * JonB hi ville83 
1195137662 M * shedi daniel_hozac, I change the mirrors in yum.repos.d
1195137676 M * shedi that's all I did
1195137797 M * daniel_hozac shedi: i need the exact procedure. if you don't get all the files, you might end up with a guest that has nothing installed...
1195137874 J * Punkie ~Punkie@goc.coolhousing.net
1195137924 M * shedi daniel_hozac, I changed fedora.repo  fedora-updates.repo  fedora-updates-testing.repo , I uncommented baseurl and replaced 7 with 8, fedora-7 with fedora-8
1195137940 M * shedi I have a guest with 227mb size
1195138005 M * daniel_hozac have you tried vserver ----insecure <guest> exec chkconfig syslog on?
1195138196 M * ville83 i have one quesions what Debian servers big company to use, i was hear debian programs what are design only computer what are servers/ where i get that program i have Debia/samba my server now
1195138425 Q * ville83 Quit: Leaving
1195138689 M * shedi I just tried building the f7, and it starts fine
1195138704 M * shedi so the problem is in the package I manipulated
1195138714 M * shedi or in the f8 version
1195138780 Q * laurensv Quit: leaving
1195139022 Q * PowerKe Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1195140000 Q * JonB Quit: This computer has gone to sleep
1195140107 Q * sladen Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1195140612 Q * derjohn Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1195140633 J * derjohn ~derjohn@80.69.42.51
1195141085 N * Bertl_oO Bertl
1195141088 M * Bertl back now
1195141293 M * Loki|muh can someone point me to the file where the templates for the vserver-build template are processed? I found the files which are copied to the guest but not the file which control this copy
1195141348 M * Bertl hmm?
1195141404 J * dowdle ~dowdle@scott.coe.montana.edu
1195141441 Q * mjt Remote host closed the connection
1195141456 M * Bertl wb dowdle!
1195141490 M * Loki|muh gentoo guests are created with vserver foo build ... -m template -- -d gentoo ...
1195141490 M * dowdle Bertl: Good nowing.
1195141507 M * Loki|muh and there is a directory named /usr/lib/util-vserver/distributions/gentoo where the files are
1195141532 M * Loki|muh but I'm searching for the command which copies the files to the right place in the guest during the build process
1195141556 M * Bertl ah, well, daniel_hozac probably knows
1195141634 J * PowerKe ~tom@d54C13E4B.access.telenet.be
1195141668 M * Bertl wb PowerKe!
1195142025 Q * Alikus Remote host closed the connection
1195142152 M * dowdle Damn, Red Hat released RHEL4 Update 6 today.
1195142162 M * dowdle Those CentOS boys now have two updates to do.
1195142187 M * Bertl is that bad?
1195142254 M * dowdle Bertl: Just a lot of bits flying around.  RHEL5 Update 1 came out last week, along with Fedora 8.  This week a ton of F7 (KDE 3.5.8, koffice, etc) and F8 updates and now RHEL4 Update 6.  Now all we need is RHEL3 Update 10. :)
1195142317 J * lilalinux__ ~plasma@80.69.42.51
1195142343 J * Alikus ~alikus@217.150.200.212
1195142400 Q * sharkjaw Remote host closed the connection
1195142518 Q * shedi Quit: Leaving
1195142749 Q * lilalinux_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1195143476 M * Bertl dowdle: the webcam is really cool! thanks again, I like it!
1195143478 M * daniel_hozac Loki|muh: /usr/lib*/util-vserver/distributions/gentoo/initpost
1195143609 J * cedric ~cedric@rny93-2-82-66-66-30.fbx.proxad.net
1195143622 Q * lilalinux__ Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1195143628 J * hparker ~hparker@linux.homershut.net
1195143642 Q * derjohn Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1195143762 M * Loki|muh daniel_hozac: arghs! thank you!
1195144035 J * derjohn ~derjohn@80.69.42.51
1195144037 J * lilalinux__ ~plasma@80.69.42.51
1195144086 M * faheem___ I'm getting this /dev/mem: No such file or directory
1195144121 M * faheem___ message on different unrelated machines. The machines in question are all running Debian etch amd64.
1195144137 M * faheem___ I'm not doing anything special here.
1195144141 M * daniel_hozac on the host?
1195144152 N * AStorm Guest780
1195144156 J * AStorm ~astralsto@tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net
1195144174 M * faheem___ daniel_hozac: No the message comes inside when the guest. Right now, when running apt.
1195144185 M * faheem___ when inside...
1195144197 M * daniel_hozac why is it trying to access /dev/mem?
1195144211 Q * Guest780 Remote host closed the connection
1195144223 M * faheem___ daniel_hozac: No idea. There is not /dev/mem on any of these machines.
1195144233 M * faheem___ daniel_hozac: File a bug?
1195144241 M * faheem___ not -> no
1195144277 M * daniel_hozac you might want to figure out if it's legit first.
1195144299 M * faheem___ daniel_hozac: What is legit?
1195144329 M * daniel_hozac i can't really think of anything right now, but who knows.
1195144399 M * dowdle Bertl: Glad to hear that you like the webcam.  It was just being wasted.
1195144457 M * faheem___ daniel_hozac: I'm getting quite a lot of hits for this message. They seem to be mostly related to virtualization, and not only on linux hosts. Odd.
1195144469 M * faheem___ Bertl: Any idea what this message might mean?
1195144501 M * daniel_hozac that's pretty obvious, no? it means you don't have /dev/mem.
1195144522 M * daniel_hozac and in a guest, you shouldn't.
1195144525 M * faheem___ daniel_hozac: Yes, but why is it looking for /dev/mem?
1195144535 M * faheem___ What is /dev/mem, anyway?
1195144536 M * daniel_hozac that's what i was asking you...
1195144550 M * faheem___ daniel_hozac: I've no idea. I just ran the utilities...
1195144559 M * daniel_hozac so figure it out.
1195144594 M * faheem___ daniel_hozac: I doubt my debugging skills are up to it.
1195144613 M * daniel_hozac just grep the scripts...
1195144772 Q * gebura Quit: Quitte
1195145348 M * Bertl faheem___: strart with an strace -fF to get an idea where it happens
1195145390 M * arekm daniel_hozac: is pld.patch fine, beside that 1 comment?
1195145401 M * daniel_hozac arekm: i haven't read it all yet.
1195145433 M * arekm can I somehow reliably detect that I'm inside of guest? (so I could modify init scripts to avoid some operations)
1195145447 Q * fb Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1195145455 J * yarihm ~yarihm@vpn-global-dhcp1-155.ethz.ch
1195145464 M * daniel_hozac arekm: look at how Gentoo does it.
1195145498 M * arekm ok
1195145570 M * Bertl arekm: note, in general the only _reliable_ way to detect it would be to do a vserver syscall, all other info can (but usually isn't) be disabled
1195145603 M * daniel_hozac but vserver syscalls will fail if it's a non-vserver kernel too :)
1195145619 M * Bertl yes, but differently, IIRC
1195145648 M * daniel_hozac i thought we returned ENOSYS for guests?
1195145678 M * Bertl not for all commands .. I think
1195145747 Q * ema Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1195145816 M * daniel_hozac IMHO, without CAP_CONTEXT, we return ENOSYS.
1195145983 J * derjohn_mobil ~aj@80.69.41.3
1195146111 M * arekm when init style=plain, can I somehow see "console" of guest at boot time?
1195146137 M * daniel_hozac not by default.
1195146159 M * arekm how then?
1195146187 M * daniel_hozac create /dev/console in the guest, making it the terminal you want output on.
1195146202 J * aj_ ~aj@80.69.42.51
1195146215 N * ensc Guest785
1195146225 J * ensc ~irc-ensc@p54B4E790.dip.t-dialin.net
1195146263 M * arekm daniel_hozac: thanks
1195146332 Q * Guest785 Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1195146458 J * yarihm_ ~yarihm@vpn-global-dhcp3-163.ethz.ch
1195146477 Q * yarihm Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1195146533 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: yep, correct, in all recent kernels we return ENOSYS without CAP_CONTEXT
1195146542 Q * derjohn_mobil Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1195146666 J * paula35 ~paula35@d033.dhcp212-198-248.noos.fr
1195146688 M * Bertl welcome paula35!
1195146694 J * bonbons ~bonbons@2001:960:7ab:0:20b:5dff:fec7:6b33
1195146777 Q * paula35 
1195146807 Q * lilalinux__ Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1195147122 Q * yarihm_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1195147517 Q * aj_ Quit: Verlassend
1195147887 Q * derjohn Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1195147922 J * derjohn ~derjohn@80.69.41.3
1195148506 M * arekm ok, logging console to syslog, cool thing
1195149508 J * fb ~fback@red.fback.net
1195149593 M * arekm clone(child_stack=0, flags=CLONE_VFORK|CLONE_NEWNS|SIGCHLD) = 31307
1195149596 M * arekm wait4(31307, Mount failed for selinuxfs on /selinux:  Operation not permitted
1195149612 M * arekm [{WIFEXITED(s) && WEXITSTATUS(s) == 0}], 0, NULL) = 31307
1195149617 M * arekm weird. 
1195149623 M * Bertl selinuxfs inside a gguest?
1195149653 M * arekm when starting guest with init=plain we get "Mount failed for selinuxfs on /selinux:  Operation not permitted" from kernel
1195149658 M * arekm hm, I may know why
1195149669 M * daniel_hozac it's not from the kernel...
1195149671 M * daniel_hozac it's from init.
1195149692 M * arekm daniel_hozac: it's printed on host, why?
1195149709 M * daniel_hozac because that's where you're starting the guest from?
1195149882 A * arekm looks into libselinux to see if this can be disabled in guest
1195150027 M * arekm only by patching libselinux
1195150130 M * igraltist or use gentoo without selinux :)
1195150396 Q * Alikus Remote host closed the connection
1195151217 M * arekm don't use gentoo. Actually there is a way - set SELINUX_INIT=no
1195151248 M * arekm env variable before starting init
1195151299 M * arekm Now the question is if always setting it for guest in util-vserver start script is something sane and desired
1195151327 M * daniel_hozac just set it in /etc/vservers/<guest>/apps/init/environment
1195151354 M * daniel_hozac (or in .defaults if you want it for all guests)
1195151460 M * arekm works :)
1195151487 J * pme ~pme@ACaen-152-1-20-102.w83-115.abo.wanadoo.fr
1195151506 N * pme Guest795
1195151707 Q * meandtheshell Quit: Leaving.
1195152218 M * daniel_hozac arekm: why isn't vpoldek using vsomething?
1195152267 M * Bertl lol
1195152308 M * daniel_hozac and why doesn't vpoldek-worker need rpm-fake? i thought it was RPM-based?
1195152667 M * arachnist pld is a POS and you should forget it ever existed...
1195152718 M * daniel_hozac haha.
1195152726 M * arachnist (yes, i study at gdansk university of technology, and despite that my uni likes pld very much...)
1195152763 M * arekm daniel_hozac: no idea about vsomething. Will see what's that. I remember seeing messages that fake-rpm.so cannot be reloaded so it's using fake-rpm somehow. Looking.
1195152905 M * arekm arachnist: and why is that?
1195152920 M * arachnist arekm: why is what?
1195152931 J * _jmcaricand_zzz ~jmcarican@d90-144-32-42.cust.tele2.fr
1195153014 M * arekm arachnist: pos
1195153055 M * arachnist arekm: rpm hell last time i tried to use it
1195153134 M * arekm arachnist: that's due to oracle crap who made incompatible change without telling anyone. it's fixed now
1195153234 M * arachnist still i'd choose gentoo/debian/smgl/arch over any rpm-based distro any day
1195153273 M * arekm and that's good.
1195153318 Q * Punkie Quit: Odcházím
1195153724 Q * Guest795 Quit: Konversation terminated!
1195154362 Q * FireEgl Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1195154484 J * laurensv ~laurensv@cable-87-244-174-48.upc.chello.be
1195154529 M * laurensv Hi, I've got a couple of vservers on a different network then the host, I've set up source based routing, but I'm still unable to connect to the ssh daemon in the vserver...
1195154560 M * laurensv if I do a tcpdump on the host I do not see any packets arriving for that vserver, should tcpdump show packets there?
1195154574 M * daniel_hozac yes.
1195154588 M * daniel_hozac that means the packets are not getting to that machine.
1195154624 M * daniel_hozac try connecting to something on the outside, you should see packets with the right address going out whatever interface you specified.
1195154697 J * JonB ~NoSuchUse@kg0-199.kollegiegaarden.dk
1195154711 M * laurensv k
1195154810 Q * _jmcaricand_zzz Quit: KVIrc 3.2.4 Anomalies http://www.kvirc.net/
1195155261 M * laurensv Thank you for your help again Daniel, I'll check with my isp...
1195155381 Q * laurensv Quit: leaving
1195156840 J * Aiken ~james@ppp59-167-115-173.lns3.bne4.internode.on.net
1195158268 Q * cedric Quit: cedric
1195158373 J * DavidS ~david@217.19.46.18
1195158880 J * systest ~systest@146-115-126-31.c3-0.arl-ubr1.sbo-arl.ma.cable.rcn.com
1195159061 J * FireEgl FireEgl@4.0.0.0.1.0.0.0.c.d.4.8.0.c.5.0.1.0.0.2.ip6.arpa
1195159331 M * systest Are there any docs on how guest network interfaces are plumbed to the outside world?
1195159368 M * daniel_hozac google Linux networking...
1195159392 M * systest and I'll get back a bunch of hits on general networking
1195159403 M * faheem___ Is it possible to set the defaults to that /tmp is larger than 16M?
1195159414 M * daniel_hozac faheem___: for new guests?
1195159422 M * faheem___ daniel_hozac: Yes.
1195159423 M * daniel_hozac systest: which will accurately describe how it works.
1195159431 M * systest what I'm looking for is what is actually happening when I touch /etc/vservers/<guest>/interfaces
1195159431 M * faheem___ to -> so
1195159494 Q * JonB Quit: This computer has gone to sleep
1195159502 M * daniel_hozac faheem___: cp /usr/lib*/util-vserver/defaults/fstab /etc/vservers/.defaults/fstab, edit the latter.
1195159527 M * daniel_hozac systest: those addresses are brought up when you start the guest and teared down when you stop it, assuming you haven't set nodev.
1195159559 M * arekm daniel_hozac: any other issues with the patch? (I'm currently fixing these that you found already)
1195159568 M * systest and how are they actually served by the host? 
1195159611 M * daniel_hozac systest: same way any other address assigned to the host...
1195159634 M * daniel_hozac arekm: i think that's it. i just glanced through it though.
1195159702 M * ensc hi, it seems that xid-tagging causes NFS4 GETATTR calls to fail (endless NFS4ERR_DELAY responses when tagxid!=0)
1195159727 M * systest well,  the modified kernel must be doing something special to keep things seperate.  It can't just be passing things through, it must be operating on behalf of the guest or the would all see broadcast traffic etc.
1195159756 M * daniel_hozac ensc: the server's filesystem is mounted with tagging, and NFS doesn't know anything about it? or is the NFS mounted with -o tag as well?
1195159773 M * systest how does it keep track of which guest get's the traffic?  From what I can see from within the guest, the ALL have the same MAC as the host.
1195159777 M * daniel_hozac systest: it _is_ just passing things throug.
1195159783 M * ensc daniel_hozac: the exported filesystem is mounted with tagxid
1195159795 M * ensc client side does not use tagging
1195159801 M * daniel_hozac systest: guests are just limited to a subset of the IP addresses. we don't change anything else.
1195159814 M * daniel_hozac ensc: kernel?
1195159821 M * systest so a guest can sniff traffic for any of the others?
1195159823 M * daniel_hozac (on both ends)
1195159824 M * ensc 2.6.22.12 + ...0.5
1195159831 M * daniel_hozac so 2.2.?
1195159836 M * ensc yes
1195159842 M * daniel_hozac systest: guests cannot sniff at all.
1195159858 M * faheem___ daniel_hozac: Ok, Thanks.
1195159970 M * daniel_hozac ensc: is CONFIG_TAG_NFSD enabled?
1195159973 M * systest so this brings me back to the original question, is there a doc that describes how networking works between the host/guests or is this a "read the code" answer?
1195159991 M * daniel_hozac systest: there is no networking between the host and guest.
1195160006 M * daniel_hozac systest: all the networking happens on the host. guests are just restricted in what IP addresses they can use.
1195160012 M * ensc daniel_hozac: no
1195160085 M * systest well, apparently they're also restricted to what they can do with an interface.  They can't sniff it.  I expect they can't add secondary IPs to it, etc.
1195160110 M * daniel_hozac they can't touch networking, since that happens on the host.
1195160168 M * ensc daniel_hozac: NFS still hangs when remounting (+rebooting) without 'tagxid' mount option
1195160207 M * daniel_hozac does it work on vanilla?
1195160261 M * ensc dunno, don't have a vanilla kernel there
1195160291 M * ensc can the tags be set with some other tools?
1195160329 M * daniel_hozac hmm?
1195160376 M * ensc the xid-tags are some extended attribute on the filesystem, right?
1195160404 M * ensc can this attribute be set on vanilla kernels with some non-vserver program?
1195160408 M * daniel_hozac well, it uses bits in the uid and gid.
1195160445 M * daniel_hozac (depending on your CONFIG_TAGGING_* choice)
1195160589 M * ensc ah... this can explain the "nfsdcb: id \'-206359756\' too big" message
1195160639 M * arekm http://pld.pastebin.com/f5ec8e91b interesting
1195160663 M * daniel_hozac indeed.
1195160719 M * arekm daniel_hozac: vpoldek wasn't using fake-rpm because it was later running vrpm-fake binary
1195160867 M * arekm hm, why this wasn't done the other way  (fake-rpm for vpoldek and using pure rpm)
1195160867 Q * eyck Read error: Connection reset by peer
1195161211 J * larsivi ~larsivi@101.84-48-201.nextgentel.com
1195161538 Q * systest Quit: Client exiting
1195161543 M * arekm vpoldek using fake-rpm and executing standard rpm directly should probably fly and be better than current way
1195161933 M * bonbons arekm: patch to make ipv6 modular is getting into shape (I have something that compiles right now - runtime check scheduled for week-end)
1195161971 M * arekm bonbons: thanks! very nice information
1195161980 J * eyck_ ~eyck@nat05.nowanet.pl
1195162252 A * bonbons soon switching into sleep state
1195162305 M * arekm daniel_hozac: could you help? I have now vpoldek run via rpmFake.exec. Now poldek still executes rpm binary to do actuall installation. Unfortunately that rpm does: error: open of /etc/vservers/test5/apps/pkgmgmt/base/poldek/cache/ftp_ftp.th.pld-linux.org.dists.th.PLD.x86.64.RPMS/setup-2.4.10-6.x86_64.rpm failed: Permission denied which hits vserver barrier
1195162359 Q * bonbons Quit: Leaving
1195162360 M * arekm I wonder where yum keeps downloaded packages
1195162377 Q * arachnist Quit: brb/bbl
1195162504 J * arachnist arachnist@088156187175.who.vectranet.pl
1195162545 M * arekm PKGCFGBASE is wrong for cache? hm
1195162636 J * Yvo ~yvonne@91.64.217.106
1195162652 P * Yvo 
1195162874 M * dowdle arekm: Usually under /var/cache/yum somewhere.
1195162881 M * dowdle A separate dir for each repo
1195162902 M * arekm dowdle: and vyum?
1195163027 M * dowdle arekm: Ok.... ummm somewhere else then.
1195163071 M * daniel_hozac i don't understand what you're doing.
1195163084 M * daniel_hozac rpm runs in the host.
1195163174 M * arekm daniel_hozac: poldek tool runs rpm tool to do installation of packages. Both can't be using fake-rpm because http://pld.pastebin.com/f5ec8e91b right?
1195163199 Q * nox Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1195163212 M * daniel_hozac oh, poldek exec's rpm?
1195163215 M * arekm yes
1195163224 M * daniel_hozac ... why?
1195163230 M * daniel_hozac rpm has libraries for a reason.
1195163260 M * arekm don't know why author made the thing work such way 
1195163547 J * nox ~nox@static.88-198-17-175.clients.your-server.de
1195163772 M * zbyniu (pre)historical reasons? poldek.spec: Revision 1.1  2000/09/25 00:00:09  mis
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1195163813 J * faheem__1 ~faheem@cpe-071-077-007-143.nc.res.rr.com
1195163825 J * Aiken ~james@ppp59-167-115-173.lns3.bne4.internode.on.net
1195163834 M * arekm reverting the changes to old way (non fake-rpm vpoldek + fake-rpmed rpm) ;/
1195163905 Q * Aiken 
1195163917 Q * faheem_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1195164006 Q * DavidS Quit: Leaving.
1195164139 Q * FireEgl Read error: No route to host
1195164220 M * arekm such version also has own problems like: ERROR: ld.so: object '/usr/lib64/util-vserver/rpm-fake.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored.
1195164338 M * daniel_hozac is your rpm 32-bit?
1195164391 Q * larsivi Quit: Konversation terminated!
1195164402 M * arekm 64bit host and guest
1195164414 Q * dsoul Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1195164424 M * daniel_hozac file `type -p rpm`
1195164464 M * arekm /bin/rpm: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.6.12, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), stripped
1195164526 M * arekm this only happens for some packages like selinux but not openssl for example
1195164652 M * arekm maybe -z,relro linker option causes that
1195164690 Q * DLange Quit: Bye, bye. Hasta luego.
1195164830 J * larsivi ~larsivi@101.84-48-201.nextgentel.com
1195164847 Q * eyck_ Quit: leaving
1195164861 J * Aiken ~james@ppp59-167-115-173.lns3.bne4.internode.on.net
1195165164 J * eyck ~eyck@nat05.nowanet.pl
1195166406 J * trippeh atomt@uff.ugh.no
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1195167378 J * derjohn ~derjohn@dslb-084-058-236-073.pools.arcor-ip.net
1195167549 J * yarihm ~yarihm@84-75-112-118.dclient.hispeed.ch
1195167606 J * friendly12345 ~friendly@ppp59-167-168-145.lns1.mel4.internode.on.net
1195168062 Q * ensc Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1195168250 J * ensc ~irc-ensc@p54B4E790.dip.t-dialin.net
1195168459 Q * larsivi Remote host closed the connection
1195168482 J * larsivi ~larsivi@101.84-48-201.nextgentel.com
1195168717 J * opuk ~kupo@c213-100-138-228.swipnet.se
1195169134 P * hallyn 
1195169276 M * Bertl okay, off to bed for tonight .. have a good one everyone!
1195169279 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ
1195169406 Q * duckx Remote host closed the connection
1195169834 Q * AStorm Write error: connection closed
1195169873 J * AStorm ~astralsto@tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net