1194566567 M * Falle Im getting these weird error messages after moving a vserver. Uppon "vserver lab2 start" it gives me a few thousand lines of: "WARNING: '/etc/vservers/lab2/somedir/somefile.tar.gz' does not end on newline"
1194566596 M * daniel_hozac umm, why do you have a bunch of tarballs in your configuration directory?
1194566659 M * Falle oh my god
1194566675 M * Falle i just extracted the tarball into the config directory.
1194566685 M * Bertl hehe
1194566693 M * Falle doing this @ 1AM = bad plan
1194566726 M * Falle the entire server was extracted into the configdir.
1194567235 Q * Supaplex Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1194567318 Q * Johnnie Read error: Connection reset by peer
1194567342 J * Johnnie ~jdlewis@c-67-163-142-234.hsd1.pa.comcast.net
1194567373 M * Falle now its working..  finaly :P
1194567386 M * Bertl congrats!
1194567777 J * wibble ~wibble@vortex.ukshells.co.uk
1194567872 M * Bertl wb wibble!
1194567934 Q * duckx Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1194568039 Q * fatgoose_ Quit: fatgoose_
1194568133 Q * AStorm Remote host closed the connection
1194568148 J * duckx ~Duck@81.57.39.234
1194568293 J * harry ~harry@d54C2508C.access.telenet.be
1194568755 M * friendly12345 Sorry for this but I have a most FAQ:
1194568784 M * friendly12345 Will 'container' support in 2.6.24 affect vserver in any way?
1194568815 M * Bertl well, yes, very likely, it already does in 2.6.23
1194569077 Q * wibble Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1194569593 J * AStorm ~astralsto@tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net
1194569717 Q * harry Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1194570008 J * harry ~harry@d54C2508C.access.telenet.be
1194570306 J * raa ~raa@static-207-114-230-7.asisna.com
1194570454 M * raa Good evening.  A quick vyum question if possible.
1194570475 M * raa Is it possible to do vyum GUEST -- localinstall *?
1194570482 Q * dowdle Remote host closed the connection
1194571382 Q * mire_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1194572006 M * raa Found a solution.
1194572032 Q * raa Quit: Leaving
1194573155 J * ard ~ard@gw-tweakb16.kwaak.net
1194573289 Q * fs Server closed connection
1194574078 Q * Guest587 Server closed connection
1194574179 J * Guest11 ~ensc@www.sigma-chemnitz.de
1194574329 J * able ~mike@71-214-127-120.ptld.qwest.net
1194574691 P * smithbone Konversation terminated!
1194575685 J * FireEgl FireEgl@FireEgl.CJB.Net
1194575927 Q * Medivh Server closed connection
1194575983 J * Medivh ck@dolphin.serverbox.de
1194578456 J * dowdle ~dowdle@67-42-174-141.blng.qwest.net
1194580197 M * Bertl okay, off to bed now ... have a good one everyone!
1194580202 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ
1194580224 P * able 
1194580707 M * dowdle daniel_hozac: You around?
1194580804 Q * baldy Server closed connection
1194580805 J * baldy baldy@brain.servercrew.de
1194581114 Q * Bertl_zZ Server closed connection
1194581114 J * Bertl_zZ herbert@IRC.13thfloor.at
1194581424 Q * grobie Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1194581549 M * dowdle Ok, I've published the interview with Bertl.  I *THINK* I have the folks in the group picture identified correctly but if not, please let me know: http://www.montanalinux.org/linux-vserver-interview.html
1194581806 J * grobie ~grobie@master.schnuckelig.eu
1194583888 Q * tokkee Server closed connection
1194583893 J * tokkee tokkee@ssh.faui2k3.org
1194585068 Q * dowdle Remote host closed the connection
1194587204 J * dsoul darksoul@vice.ii.uj.edu.pl
1194587258 J * C14r_ ~C14r@h58173.serverkompetenz.net
1194587319 J * _mcp ~hightower@wolk-project.de
1194587370 J * arachnis1 arachnist@088156184167.who.vectranet.pl
1194587386 J * FaUl_ immo@shell.chaostreff-dortmund.de
1194587387 J * opuk_ ~kupo@c213-100-138-228.swipnet.se
1194587389 J * doener ~doener@host.magicwars.de
1194587390 J * bXi_ bluepunk@irssi.co.uk
1194587392 J * danman danman@eliza.wigner.bme.hu
1194587394 J * maddoc_ maddoc@social.ostruktur.com
1194587395 J * BobR_zZ_ odie@IRC.13thfloor.at
1194587398 N * Patrick_ the-me
1194587399 J * xe ex@valis.net.pl
1194587401 J * fosco_ fosco@konoha.devnullteam.org
1194587401 J * matti_ matti@acrux.romke.net
1194587403 J * baldy_ baldy@brain.servercrew.de
1194587405 J * sladen_ paul@starsky.19inch.net
1194587410 J * daniel_hozac_ ~daniel@ssh.hozac.com
1194587411 J * menomc ~amery@kilo105.server4you.de
1194587419 J * harry_ ~harry@d54C2508C.access.telenet.be
1194587423 J * svenk ~sven@213.73.89.36
1194587426 J * tokkee_ tokkee@ssh.faui2k3.org
1194587430 J * Adrinael adrinael@rid7.kyla.fi
1194587434 J * _[PUPPETS]Gonzo gonzo@fellatio.deswahnsinns.de
1194587434 J * weasel_ weasel@weasel.chair.oftc.net
1194587442 J * transaci1 ~transacid@transacid.de
1194587474 J * dmnd ~wouter@base.null0.nl
1194587508 J * waldi_ ~waldi@83.137.100.38
1194587540 J * _cob ~cob@pc-csa01.science.uva.nl
1194587550 J * bzed_ ~bzed@devel.recluse.de
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1194587613 Q * BobR_zZ synthon.oftc.net kilo.oftc.net
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1194587613 Q * Adrinael_ synthon.oftc.net kilo.oftc.net
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1194587613 Q * fosco synthon.oftc.net kilo.oftc.net
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1194587613 Q * waldi synthon.oftc.net kilo.oftc.net
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1194587613 N * weasel_ weasel
1194587613 N * xe ex
1194587615 N * _[PUPPETS]Gonzo [PUPPETS]Gonzo
1194587621 N * _mcp mcp
1194587664 J * mEDI_S ~medi@snipah.com
1194587722 J * nox ~nox@static.88-198-17-175.clients.your-server.de
1194588045 J * meebey meebey@booster.qnetp.net
1194588437 J * wenchien ~wenchien@59-105-176-102.adsl.static.seed.net.tw
1194589216 J * DLange ~dlange@p57A3128F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
1194589770 J * derjohn_mobil ~aj@p5B23C499.dip.t-dialin.net
1194590013 Q * AStorm Read error: Connection reset by peer
1194590218 J * AStorm ~astralsto@tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net
1194590292 J * JonB ~NoSuchUse@kg1-20.kollegiegaarden.dk
1194592148 Q * hparker Quit: bbiaf
1194592963 Q * larsivi Quit: Konversation terminated!
1194592974 J * hparker ~hparker@linux.homershut.net
1194593327 J * dna ~dna@129-216-dsl.kielnet.net
1194593864 N * AStorm Guest62
1194593868 J * AStorm ~astralsto@tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net
1194593868 Q * Guest62 Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1194594251 N * opuk_ opuk
1194594520 Q * JonB Quit: This computer has gone to sleep
1194595269 J * ntrs_ ~ntrs@79.125.251.198
1194595301 Q * hparker Quit: g'nite
1194595577 N * transaci1 transacid
1194595659 N * daniel_hozac_ daniel_hozac
1194595674 Q * zLinux Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1194595707 Q * ntrs__ Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1194596902 J * JonB ~NoSuchUse@kg1-20.kollegiegaarden.dk
1194597392 Q * JonB Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1194597402 J * JonB ~NoSuchUse@kg1-98.kollegiegaarden.dk
1194597508 J * kwowt ~kwowt@BSN-61-37-150.dial-up.dsl.siol.net
1194597509 M * kwowt hi
1194597536 M * kwowt I cant get my resolv to work inside the VPS, i cant resolve hostnames or ping, but it works on root vserver!
1194597548 M * kwowt localhost ~ # ping google.com
1194597548 M * kwowt ping: unknown host google.com
1194597564 M * harry_ is your resolv.conf ok in your guest?
1194597564 M * JonB kwowt: what does /etc/resolv.conf contain?
1194597575 M * kwowt the same 2 nameservers like the root server
1194597582 M * kwowt nameserver 91.185.193.2
1194597582 M * kwowt nameserver 91.185.193.4
1194597594 M * harry_ what does "ip a" give you?
1194597610 M * kwowt huh ?
1194597625 M * kwowt in vps nothing
1194597628 M * kwowt in root server, alot
1194597641 M * kwowt bash: ip: command not found
1194597661 M * harry_ iow: does your vps have an ip?
1194597703 M * kwowt what do you mean?
1194597707 M * kwowt the package, or its own ip?:P
1194597723 M * harry_ does your guest have an ip address
1194597725 M * kwowt yes
1194597740 M * kwowt eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:03:47:F1:62:F5
1194597740 M * kwowt           inet addr:91.185.200.248  Bcast:91.185.200.255  Mask:255.255.255.248
1194597746 M * harry_ that's the host
1194597767 M * kwowt hum?
1194597771 M * kwowt i'm lost here :)
1194597778 M * harry_ nevermind
1194597797 M * harry_ what does "dig a www.google.com" give you?
1194597809 M * kwowt bash: dig: command not found
1194597810 M * kwowt :)
1194597818 M * harry_ install some dns utils etc..
1194597826 M * harry_ what does ping 134.58.10.40 give you?
1194597826 M * JonB kwowt: which os is inside the guest?
1194597833 M * kwowt can i, without resolv?
1194597845 M * kwowt well...gentoo
1194597850 M * harry_ you can ping an ip without resolv... cause it's resolved
1194597855 M * harry_ that's what dns does
1194597856 M * harry_ ;)
1194597865 M * kwowt localhost ~ # ping 134.58.10.40
1194597865 M * kwowt connect: Invalid argument
1194597875 M * JonB kwowt: firewall ?
1194597882 M * kwowt no, shouldnt be
1194597885 M * kwowt nothing on server
1194597893 M * harry_ your guest is called localhost... odd
1194597908 M * JonB harry_: thats just a name
1194597912 N * harry_ harrydg
1194597917 M * JonB kwowt: how did you make your guest?
1194597921 M * harrydg JonB: i know... weird name to give a machine...
1194597943 M * kwowt i used this guide
1194597943 M * kwowt http://planet.gentoo.org/developers/hollow/2006/11/03/baselayout_vserver_is_dead
1194597947 M * kwowt to create the guest
1194597992 M * JonB kwowt: why do you want to use vserver?
1194598018 M * kwowt cuz i got some friends who want their own servers:P
1194598023 M * kwowt plus the machine is on 100mbit
1194598039 M * JonB kwowt: do you have more than one public ip address?
1194598043 M * kwowt yes
1194598060 J * zLinux ~zLinux@88.213.31.164
1194598068 M * JonB kwowt: in the host, which util-vserver version? and which kernel version?
1194598074 M * kwowt i got 91.185.193.146 as a main address and then i got 91.185.200.248/29
1194598111 M * kwowt  2.6.17-vs2.0.2.1-gentoo kernel
1194598118 M * kwowt how do i check which util-vserver:P?
1194598134 M * JonB kwowt: i dont know on gentoo
1194598144 M * JonB kwowt: maybe vserver --version?
1194598160 M * daniel_hozac kwowt: why the old kernel?
1194598179 M * JonB daniel_hozac: probably because thats what he can emerge from gentoo
1194598181 M * kwowt server 0.30.212 -- manages the state of vservers
1194598181 M * kwowt This program is part of util-vserver 0.30.212
1194598194 J * larsivi ~larsivi@85.221.53.194
1194598208 M * JonB kwowt: i'd suggest upgrading
1194598235 M * daniel_hozac kwowt: you want 0.30.214 for Gentoo. also, you want to specify an IP address when building the guest.
1194598237 J * meandtheshell ~markus@85.127.112.221
1194598242 M * kwowt but this cant be why i cant ping and resolve :)
1194598254 M * kwowt it worked before..u think this could be some ISP firewall or something?
1194598262 M * kwowt i changed the ISP now it doesnt work..
1194598267 M * daniel_hozac your guest doesn't have an IP address....
1194598298 M * kwowt but i can connect to it
1194598336 M * daniel_hozac that's most likely the host.
1194598350 J * quote ~kwowt@BSN-61-14-198.dial-up.dsl.siol.net
1194598388 M * harrydg daniel_hozac: that's what i was thinking too...
1194598388 Q * kwowt Read error: Connection reset by peer
1194598406 M * harrydg he seems to KNOW he has an ip in the guest
1194598409 M * harrydg i doubt that :)
1194598440 M * harrydg quote: you should install some dns utils in the guest...
1194598448 M * quote ¸;/
1194598581 M * quote damn
1194598613 M * daniel_hozac btw, you realize that IP you showed us earlier is the network address, right?
1194598630 M * JonB quote: i'd suggest installing the latest stable vserver kernel patch, latest stable kernel, and latest stable util-vserver
1194598787 P * friendly12345 
1194598869 M * daniel_hozac quote: did giving your guest an actually usable IP address make it work?
1194598883 M * quote i dont get it :|
1194598913 M * daniel_hozac give the guest 91.185.200.249 instead.
1194598924 M * quote thats what its using
1194598994 M * quote ...
1194599075 M * daniel_hozac 09:42 < kwowt>           inet addr:91.185.200.248  Bcast:91.185.200.255  Mask:255.255.255.248
1194599079 M * daniel_hozac your pastes disagree.
1194599313 J * Supaplex supaplex@166-70-62-194.ip.xmission.com
1194601202 Q * JonB Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1194601349 Q * derjohn_mobil Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1194602009 J * mire_ ~mire@21-168-222-85.adsl.verat.net
1194602046 M * quote daniel_hozac
1194602136 M * quote same shit
1194602137 M * quote ;/
1194602144 M * quote eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:03:47:F1:62:F5
1194602144 M * quote           inet addr:91.185.200.249  Bcast:91.185.200.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
1194602210 M * daniel_hozac well, that's not a /29 mask.
1194602262 M * quote huh?
1194602300 M * daniel_hozac a /29 would be 255.255.255.248.
1194602308 M * daniel_hozac but that shouldn't cause EINVAL.
1194602327 M * quote i added 29 in 'prefix'
1194602337 N * waldi_ waldi
1194603249 M * quote :/
1194603372 J * virtuoso ~s0t0na@ppp91-122-94-188.pppoe.avangard-dsl.ru
1194604450 J * JonB ~NoSuchUse@130.227.63.19
1194606622 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl
1194606625 M * Bertl morning folks!
1194607002 Q * ex Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1194607914 Q * zbyniu Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1194608018 M * JonB hey Bertl 
1194609330 P * Yvo 
1194609832 Q * Heinzwurst Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1194611270 J * lily ~a@221.209.198.232
1194611307 Q * lily 
1194611813 Q * mire_ Ping timeout: 483 seconds
1194612677 J * ex ex@valis.net.pl
1194612811 M * Bertl wb ex!
1194614111 J * hparker ~hparker@linux.homershut.net
1194614245 N * C14r_ C14r
1194614285 M * Bertl wb hparker! C14r!
1194614326 M * hparker Morning Bertl 
1194614329 J * mire_ ~mire@21-168-222-85.adsl.verat.net
1194614601 J * wibble wibble@vortex.ukshells.co.uk
1194615555 J * ema ~ema@rtfm.galliera.it
1194615673 J * camgirl29 ~camgirl29@d033.dhcp212-198-248.noos.fr
1194615698 Q * camgirl29 Read error: Connection reset by peer
1194615923 J * lilalinux ~plasma@80.69.41.3
1194616040 J * zbyniu ~zbyniu@host13-188.crowley.pl
1194616080 M * Bertl wb wibble! zbyniu!
1194616081 N * sladen_ sladen
1194616814 J * Asmodeo ~chatzilla@151.66.129.123
1194616987 M * Bertl welcome Asmodeo!
1194617006 M * Asmodeo thanks Bertl
1194617099 M * Asmodeo As usual I have some questions, maybe you could help me :-)
1194617121 M * Bertl maybe .. let's hear ...
1194617164 M * Asmodeo I have 2 vserver gentoo guest running ona gentoo host built with march 2007 stages 
1194617195 M * Asmodeo now I'm getting a lot of error messages at both startup and shutdown of the vservers
1194617231 M * Bertl IIRC, it is advised to use baselayout2 for Linux-VServer guests, but Hollow has all the details ...
1194617243 M * Asmodeo Today I built a new vserver for testing based on September 2007 stages
1194617288 M * Asmodeo and no error anymore other then one related to modules.dep not found
1194617326 M * Bertl sounds more like it .. but IIRC, you can run some post-install script on the older guests too
1194617346 M * Asmodeo yes I noticed that the new stages are based on baselayout2
1194617365 M * DLange Asmodeo: You can ignore the modules.dep one. The whole modules dir does not (and need not) exist in the Gentoo guest stages.
1194617383 M * Asmodeo thanks DLange
1194617429 M * Asmodeo so, how can I either update the baselayout of older vserver or eliminate the errors?
1194617459 M * daniel_hozac have you verified they're actually running an old baselayout?
1194617475 M * Asmodeo yes
1194617490 M * daniel_hozac so it's baselayout-vserver-1.12...?
1194617494 J * derjohn_mobil ~aj@80.69.41.3
1194617512 M * Bertl okay, off for now .. back a little later ...
1194617520 M * Asmodeo yes baselayout 1.12.9.r2
1194617521 N * Bertl Bertl_oO
1194617554 M * daniel_hozac baselayout-vserver or baselayout?
1194617570 M * Asmodeo baselayout
1194617586 M * hparker use baselayout2
1194617594 M * hparker works peachy on mine
1194617625 M * Asmodeo can the baselayout updated with vmerge?
1194617627 M * DLange Asmodeo: Add baselayout-2 atom to package.keywords, but be sure to know what you do. Or bug hparker when getting errors, he recommends it :-)
1194617629 M * hparker As you can see in the install with the new stage you did
1194617671 M * hparker DLange: lol... The new stages are built with it, it's ok 
1194617695 M * hparker Asmodeo: I'd guess so, I did mine within the guest
1194617744 M * Asmodeo yes I noticed that the march stages where built with 1.12.. and the new ones with baselayout2
1194617754 M * hparker Asmodeo: You could always setup a test guest and do the upgrade there first
1194617773 M * Asmodeo I will try and see
1194617790 M * hparker It was a baselayout for vserver, which has been deprecated in favor of baselayout2
1194617858 M * Asmodeo I'm not sure because the name of the atom is not baselayout-vserver
1194617903 M * hparker It used to be, it got dropped and changes made to baselayout2 so there's only a single baselayout now
1194617921 M * hparker off to hunt something resembling food
1194618267 J * marcfiu ~mef@aegis.CS.Princeton.EDU
1194618270 M * marcfiu morning
1194618795 M * JonB hparker: *wave hand* I am not the food you are looking for
1194618851 M * hparker heh
1194618891 M * Asmodeo do you have a suggestion to duplicate a vserver ?
1194619197 Q * larsivi Quit: Konversation terminated!
1194619539 Q * Aiken Remote host closed the connection
1194619672 J * Punkie ~Punkie@goc.coolhousing.net
1194620061 J * Yvo yvonne@vpn-9-015.rz.uni-mannheim.de
1194620091 P * Yvo 
1194622436 Q * Asmodeo Remote host closed the connection
1194622498 J * Asmodeo ~chatzilla@151.66.129.123
1194622702 J * dowdle ~dowdle@scott.coe.montana.edu
1194623090 P * Asmodeo User is away.
1194623603 Q * Punkie Quit: Odcházím
1194623691 J * DavidS ~david@p57A4A079.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
1194624126 Q * lilalinux Remote host closed the connection
1194624167 Q * derjohn_mobil Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1194625416 N * bzed_ bzed
1194625523 Q * bzed Quit: leaving
1194625541 J * bzed ~bzed@devel.recluse.de
1194625796 N * Bertl_oO Bertl
1194626656 J * larsivi ~larsivi@101.84-48-201.nextgentel.com
1194626902 M * igraltist hi
1194626988 M * Bertl hey igraltist!
1194627127 M * igraltist yesterday, i read this interview and on the last was a picture from you, and in wiesbaden on the linuxtage there i did the first lpi test. 
1194627140 M * dowdle Bertl: lxer.com has picked up the article and I've had about 350 visits so far this morning.  Woo hoo.
1194627161 M * igraltist i can remeber of the presentation there
1194627200 M * dowdle Bertl: Oh, I found out that the colocation place my friend has our server with says they will do RDNS if we tell them what IPs and how we want the resolved so I submitted a few RDNS requests... so perhaps you can unwhitelist my email server someday.
1194627240 M * Bertl dowdle: great news!
1194627272 M * Bertl igraltist: nice!
1194627288 M * dowdle igraltist: You have a URL for the interview?
1194627306 M * igraltist moment i must look if the xchat has it
1194627436 M * igraltist http://www.montanalinux.org/linux-vserver-interview.html
1194627626 M * DLange 351 now :)
1194627744 M * Hollow dowdle: Back Row: person on the right is "Christian Heim"
1194627791 M * dowdle Hollow: Thanks I'll update that.
1194627797 M * dowdle igraltist: Oh, that article. :)
1194627908 M * dowdle Hollow: It has been updated... although the anonymous viewer's version (which is a cached static page) might take a few mintues to flush.
1194627952 Q * ensc Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1194628141 M * Hollow dowdle: ok, thanks :)
1194628569 M * hparker Hollow: I see his nick fits him well
1194628584 M * Hollow hparker: hehe
1194628594 M * Hollow unfortunately he quit the gentoo vserver team
1194628613 M * hparker yeah, he backed off on a lot of them from the looks of things
1194628626 M * hparker I still have to put up with him in devrel though :P
1194628641 M * Hollow yup, but i think it was a good decision nevertheless
1194628647 M * hparker Or is it the other way around...
1194628649 M * hparker yeah
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1194636866 M * Falle Is it possible to run 32bit OS vservers on a 64bit OS host? Any drawbacks? other things i should know before reinstalling my server to debian AMD64?
1194637169 M * daniel_hozac of course, as long as you enable that compat layer in your kernel.
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1194638080 M * arachnis1 Falle: yes you can do that, but remember about /etc/vservers/${name}/personality
1194638097 M * arachnis1 `--> cat /etc/vservers/smgl-x86/personality
1194638097 M * arachnis1 linux32
1194638422 M * Falle arachnis1: ok, thanks.
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1194642431 M * faheem I'm get a weird error when I start a vserver.
1194642434 M * faheem umount: /mnt/deb64-chroot/etc/passwd040(deleted): not found
1194642453 M * faheem /mnt/deb64-chroot is a chroot on the same machine.
1194642590 M * Bertl you get that on guest start?
1194642593 M * faheem It has not connection to anything related to vserver that I know of.
1194642596 M * faheem Bertl: Yes.
1194642603 M * faheem not -> no
1194642628 M * daniel_hozac probably namespace cleanup. what does cat /proc/mounts show on the host?
1194642669 M * faheem daniel_hozac: Lots of stuff. :-) Want me to paste it somewhere?
1194642686 M * daniel_hozac but it shows that, no?
1194642719 M * faheem daniel_hozac: Sorry, shows what?
1194642733 M * daniel_hozac /mnt/deb64-chroot/etc/passwd040(deleted)
1194642808 M * faheem daniel_hozac: Yes, it does, actually.
1194642814 M * faheem No idea what it could mean.
1194642906 M * faheem I'm also seeing /dev/mem: No such file or directory
1194642912 M * faheem is this harmless?
1194642937 M * daniel_hozac that sounds like its coming from inside the guest.
1194642951 M * daniel_hozac you might want to figure out what on earth its doing trying to access your RAM.
1194643058 M * faheem daniel_hozac: No idea.. Nothing special about this vserver guest.
1194643323 N * maddoc_ maddoc
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1194644414 M * arachnis1 is it possible to have vserver and xen?
1194644424 P * Asmodeo 
1194644425 M * Bertl sure
1194644432 N * arachnis1 arachnist
1194644772 M * zbyniu arachnist: it is possible to have vservers inside xens :)
1194644832 M * Bertl and also on dom0
1194644854 M * arachnist i'd rather have vservers on dom0
1194644855 M * arachnist ;.
1194644912 M * arachnist Bertl: any links to patches including both xen and vserver? or do both apply cleanly on 2.6.20 ?
1194644933 M * daniel_hozac Debian packages exist for it already, so you might want to look there.
1194644952 M * Bertl shouldn't be too hard
1194644964 M * daniel_hozac there are a couple of rejects, but IIRC nothing too serious.
1194644966 M * arachnist if only i would run anything debian-based here that's not in a vserver guest
1194644984 M * faheem What is the possibility someone could break out of vserver guest? Is this very unlikely?
1194645008 M * daniel_hozac if configured correctly, it should require a serious security issue in the kernel.
1194645035 M * faheem daniel_hozac: Ok, thanks.
1194645036 M * daniel_hozac e.g. something allowing code execution in kernel space, or a bug in Linux-VServer.
1194645062 M * faheem daniel_hozac: Are any such issues known?
1194645071 M * faheem I presume not.
1194645073 M * daniel_hozac not in any current versions.
1194645098 M * faheem daniel_hozac: The version in Debian etch is probably not very current.
1194645106 M * faheem 2.6.18.
1194645125 M * arachnist cool
1194645126 M * arachnist patch -p1 -i ../patch-2.6.20.14-vs2.3.0.12.diff --dry-run --quiet
1194645126 M * arachnist 1 out of 1 hunk FAILED -- saving rejects to file Makefile.rej
1194645136 M * arachnist seems like nothing i have to worry about
1194645143 M * daniel_hozac you don't want to use that patch.
1194645150 M * arachnist why not?
1194645166 M * daniel_hozac because it's an ancient devel release from a time when we were focusing on stable?
1194645276 M * arachnist well, vs2.3.0.29 for 2.6.22 fails to apply beyond my scope of coding skills
1194645286 M * daniel_hozac because it's for 2.6.22...
1194645309 M * daniel_hozac you'll want to use the most recent 2.2 release.
1194645316 M * arachnist so i guess i'll have to stick with stable for 2.6.20
1194645885 J * wam ~wam@p57B55AD2.dip.t-dialin.net
1194645897 M * Bertl wb wam!
1194645905 M * wam Bertl: hi ;)
1194645945 M * DavidS Bertl: I understand completely what you said in the interview about this being the workplace you want to work at :)
1194646061 M * Bertl :)
1194646125 M * DavidS good night everyone!
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1194646265 M * marcfiu hello
1194646404 M * marcfiu Anyone know what specific virtualization technology Google's Android linux will be using.  Their overview page says the following: Android is built on the open Linux Kernel. Furthermore, it utilizes a custom virtual machine that has been designed to optimize memory and hardware resources in a mobile environment. (http://www.openhandsetalliance.com/android_overview.html)
1194646438 M * marcfiu Is this a container os like Vservers et al, or a hypervisor?
1194646478 M * Bertl good question
1194646579 M * Bertl guess the answer will have to wait a few days :)
1194646649 M * Bertl ... "Complete documentation will be available on November 12, along with the SDK."
1194646779 M * Supaplex intersting...
1194646811 M * dowdle My guess is that it is Google's flavor of containers.
1194646829 M * Supaplex I just bought 2pcs of Crucial 2GB 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 667 (PC2 5300) Desktop Memory Model CT25664AA667  $99.98 shipped! no crummy rebates :P
1194646837 M * Bertl dowdle: well, yeah, would make sense, but that's not in a working state yet
1194646842 M * dowdle Opps, I meant to say "control groups".
1194646852 M * dowdle Bertl: It might be internally?
1194646951 M * Bertl maybe ...
1194647156 M * dowdle Here's what Andrew said at LinuxWorld regarding Googles container work:
1194647158 M * dowdle In fact, the major, central piece of the whole containerization framework is from an engineer at Google. It's in my tree at present and I'm hoping to get it in at 2.6.24. It's just a framework for containerization. A whole lot of other stuff is going to plug in underneath it, which is under development at present.
1194647179 M * faheem Bertl: Nice interview. :-)
1194647295 M * faheem BTW, is there anything stopping using MPI with a bunch of vservers?
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1194647352 M * Bertl faheem: thanks! most of the work was done by dowdle
1194647371 M * Bertl faheem: no, I don't see any problems with message passing
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1194649938 M * sid3windr Supaplex: is that cheap? I bought 6pcs of 1GB DDR2 667 for 17.5 eur/each :o
1194650365 M * Supaplex I only have 2 slots, and 4gb max on this board. even though it's amd64
1194650744 M * Supaplex I had almost pondered sodimm adapters
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1194652210 M * sid3windr yeah, but 2G should then only cost about 35-40 eur, no? :)
1194652219 M * sid3windr hm, x2.
1194652221 M * sid3windr okay :p
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