1193702435 P * Yvo 
1193703433 Q * mattzerah Read error: Operation timed out
1193704046 J * mattzerah ~matt@121.50.220.122
1193704360 J * adrien-modulis ~adrien@3-82-252-216-static.enter-net.com
1193704857 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: hmm, 212 failing, what would be your diagnosis? (2.6.20 and vs2.2.x)
1193704870 M * Bertl (testfs that is)
1193704958 M * daniel_hozac is that the most recent 2.2.0.4?
1193704978 M * daniel_hozac we fixed that ext3 accounting bug somewhere around that time.
1193704985 M * Bertl actually it is my 2.2.x tree to, it should be 2.2.0.5 soon
1193704994 M * Bertl s/to/so/
1193705005 M * daniel_hozac ah...
1193705026 M * daniel_hozac what does -v show?
1193705041 M * Bertl sec, still running for the other FS
1193705055 M * Bertl was on ext2 btw
1193705073 M * Bertl ext3 seems fine
1193705084 M * daniel_hozac that's odd.
1193705522 P * adrien-modulis 
1193705899 Q * mire Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1193706072 Q * cirrus_ Remote host closed the connection
1193706765 M * daniel_hozac Bertl: i don't see what might be wrong, the code looks fine. the only 2.6.20 based kernel i have access to doesn't show it either (granted that's pretty old by now...).
1193706911 M * Bertl np, should have details tomorrow ... 
1193706963 M * Bertl just uploaded 2.3.0.29 and 2.2.05 for 2.6.22.10
1193706974 M * Bertl let me know if we are missing something :)
1193707257 M * daniel_hozac 2.2.0.5 is missing delta-cow-fix21
1193707284 M * daniel_hozac but just the second hunk, i.e. the path_release.
1193707657 M * daniel_hozac 2.3.0.29 is missing delta-inetdiag-fix01
1193707852 M * Bertl sure about that? because it seems to apply fine (cow-fix21)
1193707984 M * daniel_hozac ah, i was looking at the wrong branch. yeah, both hunks are missing.
1193708006 M * Bertl okay, I'll update both in place
1193708033 M * daniel_hozac okay.
1193708933 M * Bertl okay, done
1193709021 M * daniel_hozac great, thanks
1193709102 M * Bertl thank you for checking!
1193709146 M * Bertl I have updated the trees for 2.6.21 and 2.6.20 too, but I will do some more testing on them tomorrow
1193709157 M * daniel_hozac okay
1193709174 M * Bertl and iif there is demand, I'll upload them :)
1193709494 M * Bertl okay, off to bed now ... have a good one everyone! cya!
1193709507 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ
1193709515 Q * sladen Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1193709587 M * daniel_hozac good night!
1193709995 J * phrost phrost@apollo.vtdn.net
1193710016 M * phrost what ever became of ngnet, can you have bridged ethernet interfaces inside a guest?
1193710053 T * daniel_hozac http://linux-vserver.org/ | latest stable 2.2.0.5, 2.0.3-rc3, devel 2.3.0.29, stable+grsec 2.2.0.4 | util-vserver-0.30.214 | libvserver-1.0.2 & vserver-utils-1.0.3 | He who asks a question is a fool for a minute; he who doesn't ask is a fool for a lifetime -- share the gained knowledge on the Wiki, and we'll forget about the minute ;)
1193710075 M * daniel_hozac phrost: we're leaving the level 2 virtualization to mainline.
1193710111 M * phrost which means.. not yet?
1193710160 M * daniel_hozac i think it might be getting merged in 2.6.24, i'm not really clear on that.
1193710168 M * daniel_hozac why do you need it?
1193710195 M * phrost to make a long story short, there's a VE running IDS services on an internal network here
1193710199 Q * cehteh Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1193710218 M * phrost using openvz right now, i just pass the entire interface from the host node to the guest, and it can sniff traffic (it's connected to the SPAN/monitor port of the cisco on the other end)
1193710263 M * daniel_hozac so you want it to sniff all the traffic from the host, no?
1193710278 M * phrost not the host itself
1193710294 M * daniel_hozac so the host doesn't use that interface?
1193710300 M * phrost the host has 3 network interfaces, eth2 is directly connected to the monitor port of a switch, so i want to sniff all the traffic from the host's eth2
1193710303 J * sladen paul@starsky.19inch.net
1193710308 M * phrost with openvz, no, it's passed directly to the VE as eth0
1193711172 J * cehteh ~ct@pipapo.org
1193711801 Q * cehteh Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1193711859 J * cehteh ~ct@pipapo.org
1193718180 Q * sladen Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1193718366 J * sladen paul@starsky.19inch.net
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1193719696 J * balbir ~balbir@59.178.49.64
1193721446 Q * balbir Read error: Connection reset by peer
1193722496 J * balbir ~balbir@59.178.49.64
1193725903 J * dna ~dna@135-224-dsl.kielnet.net
1193725920 Q * dna 
1193727007 J * DavidS ~david@p57A4A184.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
1193727017 N * ensc Guest381
1193727027 J * ensc ~irc-ensc@p54B4E1FE.dip.t-dialin.net
1193727136 Q * Guest381 Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1193727196 Q * balbir Read error: Operation timed out
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1193728111 J * balbir ~balbir@59.178.42.122
1193728381 J * JonB ~NoSuchUse@kg1-20.kollegiegaarden.dk
1193728689 J * toidinamai ~frank@svenska.toidinamai.de
1193728865 Q * JonB Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1193728875 J * JonB ~NoSuchUse@kg1-98.kollegiegaarden.dk
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1193730285 J * smithbone rsmith@opensysadmin.com
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1193730966 J * virtuoso ~s0t0na@ppp91-122-59-39.pppoe.avangard-dsl.ru
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1193732623 J * toidinamai ~frank@svenska.toidinamai.de
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1193733768 J * mire ~mire@85.222.171.15
1193733916 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl
1193733921 M * Bertl morning folks!
1193734236 J * JonB ~NoSuchUse@kg1-98.kollegiegaarden.dk
1193734310 J * gebura ~gebura@77.192.186.197
1193734317 M * gebura hi
1193734322 M * Bertl wb gebura!
1193734335 M * gebura hello Bertl 
1193734963 J * friendly12345 ~friendly@ppp59-167-134-217.lns3.mel6.internode.on.net
1193735436 J * toidinamai_ ~frank@svenska.toidinamai.de
1193735651 Q * toidinamai Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1193735694 M * Bertl okay, off for now ... back later
1193735698 N * Bertl Bertl_oO
1193735719 M * harry cya
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1193737151 J * maria29 ~maria29@d033.dhcp212-198-248.noos.fr
1193737256 Q * maria29 
1193737274 J * balbir ~balbir@59.178.52.236
1193737632 Q * mountie Read error: Operation timed out
1193737916 J * mountie ~mountie@trb229.travel-net.com
1193737925 J * larsivi ~larsivi@85.221.53.194
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1193740066 J * balbir ~balbir@59.178.33.21
1193740159 J * toidinamai ~frank@svenska.toidinamai.de
1193742460 Q * mire Read error: Operation timed out
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1193743161 J * marcdirix ~marc@86.85.244.215
1193743199 Q * marcdirix 
1193743235 J * marcdirix ~marc@86.85.244.215
1193743286 M * waldi hmm, linux HEAD includes veth
1193743333 M * marcdirix I have setup vserver yesterday according to the wiki (compiled kernel, and debian packages util-vserver) 
1193743363 M * marcdirix afterwards I installed ssh in the vserver, and am able to login with "vserver pi enter"
1193743397 M * marcdirix however, if I ssh, to the ip of the vserver I always get connected to the guest system
1193743430 M * marcdirix \/guest/host
1193743454 M * marcdirix inspite of the host claiming to have 10.0.0.113 as ip, and the guest 10.0.0.114
1193743462 M * marcdirix any thoughts?
1193743538 M * harry yes
1193743541 M * harry read the docs
1193743556 M * harry what does the "Listen" in the sshd_config of the host say?
1193743578 M * harry or ListenAddress
1193743595 M * marcdirix I did not change anything on the host system
1193743622 M * marcdirix ok, yes
1193743632 M * marcdirix thanks
1193743654 M * harry found the problem?
1193743674 M * marcdirix yes, I did not read I had to change this on the host as well
1193743688 M * harry you only need toc change it on the host
1193743691 M * harry the rest doesn't matter
1193743710 M * marcdirix Then the wiki is not really clear about it
1193743721 M * marcdirix Modify ListenAddress to match guest's address (do the same on host system to match host's address)
1193743744 M * marcdirix It should be the other way around then not?
1193743782 M * harry true
1193743817 M * harry well... that's the guest config part
1193743830 M * harry but it should be mentioned that you NEED to do it for the HOST ssh 
1193743865 M * marcdirix yes, I did not see any host-configuration page?
1193743938 J * Julius ~julius@p57B24FF5.dip.t-dialin.net
1193743949 M * harry shame on config! ;)
1193744005 M * marcdirix no, I just misread it, but if I'm going to change the docs to be more clear, should I add it to the kernel config page, or on top of the guest page?
1193744037 M * harry good question..
1193744059 M * harry it should actually be ... on both, i think
1193744075 M * harry would be nice if someone was "boss" of the pages
1193744088 M * marcdirix Then, why is stated in the guest howto, to disable root login for ssh, is this in vserver especially insecure or just the authors preference?
1193744108 M * harry author's preference
1193744128 M * harry it's never a good idea to permit root logins :)
1193744178 M * harry the only thing you NEED to do , is to make sure that on the host, you run as little as possible, and if you need to run something on it (like ssh): make sure it only listens on the host's ip address
1193744203 M * harry in the guest, you dont need to change the ListenAddress, since it's isolated anyway
1193744237 M * marcdirix ok, that is good to know
1193744261 J * mire ~mire@85.222.171.15
1193744265 M * harry yay! i deserved some food! :)
1193744375 Q * toidinamai Quit: Leaving
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1193744607 J * click click@ti511110a080-4825.bb.online.no
1193744710 M * marcdirix I've put it under installation considerations
1193745933 Q * mire Read error: Operation timed out
1193746690 M * harry tn
1193746694 M * harry x
1193747388 J * toidinamai ~frank@svenska.toidinamai.de
1193747729 J * Punkie ~Punkie@melkor.coolhousing.net
1193748260 J * mire ~mire@15-171-222-85.adsl.verat.net
1193749017 Q * JonB Quit: This computer has gone to sleep
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1193752239 P * marcdirix 
1193752351 J * ema ~ema@rtfm.galliera.it
1193752372 J * lilalinux nas@dslb-084-059-002-074.pools.arcor-ip.net
1193753298 J * lilalinux_ nas@dslb-084-058-243-028.pools.arcor-ip.net
1193753721 Q * derjohn Ping timeout: 480 seconds
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1193753726 J * derjohn ~derjohn@80.69.42.51
1193754025 J * southtel ~southtel@68-114-23-151.dhcp.gwnt.ga.charter.com
1193754957 Q * eSa| Remote host closed the connection
1193754983 J * esa ~esa@ip-87-238-2-45.adsl.cheapnet.it
1193755360 Q * ensc cation.oftc.net unununium.oftc.net
1193755360 Q * baggins cation.oftc.net unununium.oftc.net
1193755360 Q * phedny cation.oftc.net unununium.oftc.net
1193755360 Q * bzed cation.oftc.net unununium.oftc.net
1193755360 Q * ard cation.oftc.net unununium.oftc.net
1193755360 Q * FaUl cation.oftc.net unununium.oftc.net
1193755360 Q * nebuchadnezzar cation.oftc.net unununium.oftc.net
1193755360 Q * sid3windr cation.oftc.net unununium.oftc.net
1193755360 Q * meebey cation.oftc.net unununium.oftc.net
1193755360 Q * vasko cation.oftc.net unununium.oftc.net
1193755360 Q * Loki|muh cation.oftc.net unununium.oftc.net
1193755360 Q * maddoc cation.oftc.net unununium.oftc.net
1193755360 Q * ex cation.oftc.net unununium.oftc.net
1193755360 Q * alex__ cation.oftc.net unununium.oftc.net
1193755360 Q * mjt cation.oftc.net unununium.oftc.net
1193755360 Q * grobie cation.oftc.net unununium.oftc.net
1193755360 Q * transacid cation.oftc.net unununium.oftc.net
1193755360 Q * yang cation.oftc.net unununium.oftc.net
1193755360 Q * mcp cation.oftc.net unununium.oftc.net
1193755503 J * ensc ~irc-ensc@p54B4E1FE.dip.t-dialin.net
1193755503 J * baggins ~baggins@kenny.mimuw.edu.pl
1193755503 J * phedny ~mark@ip56538143.direct-adsl.nl
1193755503 J * bzed ~bzed@devel.recluse.de
1193755503 J * ard ~ard@gw-tweakb16.kwaak.net
1193755503 J * FaUl immo@shell.chaostreff-dortmund.de
1193755503 J * nebuchadnezzar ~nebu@zion.asgardr.info
1193755503 J * sid3windr luser@bastard-operator.from-hell.be
1193755503 J * meebey meebey@booster.qnetp.net
1193755503 J * transacid ~transacid@transacid.de
1193755503 J * mcp ~hightower@wolk-project.de
1193755503 J * yang yang@yang.netrep.oftc.net
1193755503 J * mjt ~mjt@81.13.94.2
1193755503 J * alex__ ~joe@62-249-237-101.no-dns-yet.enta.net
1193755503 J * grobie ~grobie@master.schnuckelig.eu
1193755503 J * ex ex@valis.net.pl
1193755503 J * maddoc maddoc@social.ostruktur.com
1193755503 J * Loki|muh loki@satanix.de
1193755503 J * vasko ~vasko@unreal.rainside.sk
1193755519 J * bzed_ ~bzed@devel.recluse.de
1193755693 J * alex_ ~joe@62-249-237-101.no-dns-yet.enta.net
1193755746 Q * vasko cation.oftc.net unununium.oftc.net
1193755746 Q * Loki|muh cation.oftc.net unununium.oftc.net
1193755746 Q * maddoc cation.oftc.net unununium.oftc.net
1193755746 Q * ex cation.oftc.net unununium.oftc.net
1193755746 Q * alex__ cation.oftc.net unununium.oftc.net
1193755746 Q * FaUl cation.oftc.net unununium.oftc.net
1193755746 Q * baggins cation.oftc.net unununium.oftc.net
1193755746 Q * ensc cation.oftc.net unununium.oftc.net
1193755746 Q * grobie cation.oftc.net unununium.oftc.net
1193755746 Q * transacid cation.oftc.net unununium.oftc.net
1193755746 Q * sid3windr cation.oftc.net unununium.oftc.net
1193755746 Q * nebuchadnezzar cation.oftc.net unununium.oftc.net
1193755746 Q * phedny cation.oftc.net unununium.oftc.net
1193755746 Q * ard cation.oftc.net unununium.oftc.net
1193755746 Q * bzed cation.oftc.net unununium.oftc.net
1193755746 Q * mjt cation.oftc.net unununium.oftc.net
1193755746 Q * yang cation.oftc.net unununium.oftc.net
1193755746 Q * meebey cation.oftc.net unununium.oftc.net
1193755746 Q * mcp cation.oftc.net unununium.oftc.net
1193755809 J * mjt ~mjt@nat.corpit.ru
1193755811 J * yang yang@static-ip-62-75-255-124.inaddr.intergenia.de
1193755813 J * ensc ~irc-ensc@p54B4E1FE.dip.t-dialin.net
1193755813 J * baggins ~baggins@kenny.mimuw.edu.pl
1193755813 J * phedny ~mark@ip56538143.direct-adsl.nl
1193755813 J * ard ~ard@gw-tweakb16.kwaak.net
1193755813 J * FaUl immo@shell.chaostreff-dortmund.de
1193755813 J * nebuchadnezzar ~nebu@zion.asgardr.info
1193755813 J * sid3windr luser@bastard-operator.from-hell.be
1193755813 J * meebey meebey@booster.qnetp.net
1193755813 J * transacid ~transacid@transacid.de
1193755813 J * mcp ~hightower@wolk-project.de
1193755813 J * grobie ~grobie@master.schnuckelig.eu
1193755813 J * ex ex@valis.net.pl
1193755813 J * maddoc maddoc@social.ostruktur.com
1193755813 J * Loki|muh loki@satanix.de
1193755813 J * vasko ~vasko@unreal.rainside.sk
1193755816 Q * sid3windr Remote host closed the connection
1193755819 J * sid3windr luser@bastard-operator.from-hell.be
1193755832 Q * mcp Quit: changing servers
1193755839 J * pmenier ~pme@LNeuilly-152-22-72-5.w193-251.abo.wanadoo.fr
1193755842 J * mcp ~hightower@wolk-project.de
1193755873 J * dowdle ~dowdle@scott.coe.montana.edu
1193755910 M * dowdle Good (insert time of day here).
1193756080 N * Bertl_oO Bertl
1193756088 M * Bertl dowdle: good 15:54 CET :)
1193756135 M * dowdle Bertl: Any package deliveries yet?  It should be soon now I would hope.
1193756160 M * Bertl nothing yet, but I'm already working on your questions, so maybe I can still beat you :)
1193756284 M * dowdle Bertl: It might be down to the wire.
1193756418 M * Bertl hehe, yeah :)
1193756427 J * Yvo ~yvonne@91.64.217.106
1193756438 M * Bertl wb Yvo!
1193756452 M * Yvo thx ;-)
1193756585 M * Yvo Bertl: our vserver works fine at the moment and yesterday we finished our "server-project" with a presentation :-)
1193756749 M * Bertl excellent! presentation means slides or just informal?
1193756826 M * Yvo slides - very formal, we had to prepare these slides again and again until our boss was satisfied ;-)
1193756952 M * southtel How did the presentation go?  Well, I hope.
1193756955 M * Bertl hehe, do you have them somewhere? are they public?
1193757159 A * harry interested too :)
1193757372 M * Yvo *g* they aren't public, it was a presentation for our association, I'm not allowed to publish them on the web, but I sure it is ok, if I send you an eMail ;-)
1193757372 M * Yvo but we could not go in detail very much, our listeners don't understand anything of computers, they simply use them :-D
1193757372 M * Yvo and we had only a few minutes time
1193757621 M * harry can you mail me?
1193757674 Q * nou Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1193757795 M * Yvo Bertl, harry, you've got mail (sent from a vserver)
1193757835 M * harry tnx
1193757878 J * nou Chaton@causse.larzac.fr.eu.org
1193757930 M * yang With "vserver-stat" I don't see the status for root host anymore ?
1193757936 M * daniel_hozac no.
1193757941 M * daniel_hozac it is not a guest.
1193757949 M * yang so how do i check that one?
1193757955 Q * dowdle Quit: Konversation terminated!
1193757977 M * daniel_hozac check what, exactly?
1193757995 M * southtel Yang: top should tell you all you need to know.
1193758008 N * bzed_ bzed
1193758023 M * yang the used memory
1193758028 M * yang in root server
1193758036 M * southtel vserver-stat just tells you some uptime/memory usage info for the virtual servers...you should be able to get that info about the root/host with other utils (ala top)
1193758043 M * daniel_hozac use ps.
1193758068 M * yang this was removed in the newer version of vserver-stat, it used to work before
1193758096 M * daniel_hozac the old version was broken and lied most of the time.
1193758126 M * daniel_hozac it just summed up the same values ps use.
1193758217 M * yang daniel_hozac: tell me will it be possible in any future releases to use "ping" command from guests?
1193758446 J * dowdle ~dowdle@scott.coe.montana.edu
1193758524 M * yang ah surprisingly both work ping and traceroute, that was updated too I think
1193758680 M * blizz always worked fine for me here
1193758772 M * Bertl ping works fine with the proper flags (for some time now) 
1193758789 M * Bertl traceroute depends on the binary, tracepath is always fine
1193758806 M * southtel Bertl or Daniel (or anyone really, I just always see you two online): have you ever set up openvpn on a guest?
1193758826 M * southtel I've looked over the FAQ howto, but it doesn't seem to talk about bridging and such.
1193759101 M * Bertl southtel: bridging is below layer 3
1193759127 M * Bertl Linux-VServer is IP based (Layer 3) so you cannot do Layer 2 stuff
1193759175 M * southtel And the light comes on.
1193759194 M * southtel (albeit dimly)
1193760555 J * JonB ~NoSuchUse@kg1-98.kollegiegaarden.dk
1193762260 Q * gebura Quit: Quitte
1193762977 J * davidc ~chatzilla@rrcs-64-183-125-194.west.biz.rr.com
1193762982 N * davidc shorawit99
1193763041 N * shorawit99 shorawitz99
1193763865 Q * JonB Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1193764308 J * bonbons ~bonbons@ppp-111-212.adsl.restena.lu
1193764444 A * bXi found the ideal job
1193764452 M * bXi getting rich while sleeping
1193764499 M * bXi together with my main job and my 2nd job i can finally start saving up
1193764522 M * Bertl good plan ...
1193764596 M * dowdle bXi: Money is bad for you.
1193765160 Q * lilalinux_ Remote host closed the connection
1193765366 J * hparker ~hparker@linux.homershut.net
1193765386 M * Bertl wb hparker!
1193765399 M * hparker heya Bertl 
1193765439 M * bXi dowdle: i was going to offer free vserver guests with flatrate 100mbit :P
1193765444 M * bXi but oh well
1193765450 A * bXi quits 2nd job :p
1193765578 M * dowdle bXi: Spend your extra freetime with your family.
1193765607 M * hparker Oh, that's who keeps eating all the food
1193765676 J * glen_ ~glen@elves.delfi.ee
1193765686 M * glen_ anyone have build template for opensuse?
1193765695 M * glen_ ie stuff from /usr/lib/util-vserver/distributions dir
1193765735 M * Bertl I remember an older suse template, but it shouldn't be too hard to make one yourself
1193765759 M * glen_ the old one uses apt, but i don't see apt dirs in newer suse ftps
1193765776 M * glen_ however i hacked centos4 template for use, but i get some unknown error:
1193765788 M * glen_ # vserver suse build --context 103 -n suse -m yum -- -d opensuse10.3
1193765791 M * glen_ /usr/lib/util-vserver/functions: line 1137: generateOptions: command not found
1193765868 M * Bertl you are using util-vserver 0.30.214?
1193765882 M * glen_ 0.30.212
1193765892 M * Bertl I'd suggest to update then :)
1193765902 M * glen_ would it be safe to upgrade 212->214 with 2.6.16.x kernel?
1193765948 M * Bertl hard to tell, talk to daniel_hozac, but I think yes
1193766025 Q * ^Toad Remote host closed the connection
1193766037 J * ^Toad ~tl@tyler.cs.brown.edu
1193766189 M * Bertl wb ^Toad!
1193766254 J * DavidS ~david@vpn.uni-ak.ac.at
1193766358 M * glen_ # vserver suse build --context 103 -n suse -m yum -- -d opensuse10.3
1193766358 M * glen_ ncontext: vc_net_create(): Invalid argument
1193766362 M * glen_ err
1193766380 M * Bertl kernel API too old for the current tool API
1193766393 M * glen_ but some things work
1193766397 M * Bertl you have to rebuild the tools with the older API enabled
1193766420 M * glen_ any hints which ones?
1193766431 M * glen_ --enable-apis=ALL ? 
1193766431 M * Bertl try NOLEGACY
1193766481 M * glen_ oh. that's what i have now there
1193766482 Q * fatgoose Read error: Connection reset by peer
1193766507 M * glen_ # cat /proc/virtual/info
1193766507 M * glen_ VCIVersion:     0002:0101
1193766507 M * glen_ VCISyscall:     273
1193766507 M * glen_ VCIKernel:      030001f6
1193766509 M * glen_ that's my kernel
1193766526 M * Bertl hmm, an old devel branch ...
1193766550 J * fatgoose ~samuel@76-10-149-199.dsl.teksavvy.com
1193766552 M * Bertl what does 'vserver-info - SYSINFO' say?
1193766555 M * Bertl (please use paste.linux-vserver.org for everything longer than 3 lines) 
1193766565 M * glen_ it's our distro patch, what version would you suggest to patch kernel to be most compatible with the one i have?
1193766585 M * glen_ sorry, tought 4 lines is fine too :)
1193766595 M * Bertl you are using a 2.6.16 kernel in your distro?
1193766606 M * glen_ 2.6.16.55
1193766626 M * glen_ http://pld.pastebin.com/f2204241b
1193766641 M * glen_ ok, that specific machine older, but vserver patch isn't updated
1193766663 M * Bertl well, we currently support kernels back to 2.6.20 :)
1193766691 M * glen_ however is there then any other version to upgrade to
1193766694 M * Bertl you have too many APIs enabled in the tools, try NOLEGACY as suggested
1193766696 M * glen_ something that doesn't say old devel :)
1193766717 M * glen_ hmm, it was built with that option,.....
1193766734 M * Bertl for 2.6.16? no, not really, but you could backport a current patch to the older kernel
1193766769 M * glen_ http://cvs.pld-linux.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/SPECS/util-vserver.spec?only_with_tag=AC-branch
1193766784 M * glen_ (annotate doesn't work, but "view" works in cvsweb)
1193766821 Q * pmenier Quit: Konversation terminated!
1193766856 M * glen_ anyway, which api i'm missing there so the build would work with mu kernel/userspace?
1193766872 M * Bertl what's that huge number of patches?
1193766887 M * glen_ dunno. not all mine :)
1193766903 M * glen_ http://cvs.pld-linux.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/SOURCES/<PATCHNAME> could reveal
1193766918 M * Bertl well, I think you have to contact the maintainer there
1193766926 M * glen_ spec maintainer?
1193766949 M * Bertl the person maintaining util-vserver and the Linux-VServer patches
1193766957 M * Bertl (for pld)
1193766962 M * glen_ well there's no such person, we're all developers :)
1193766975 M * Bertl then I think you have to dig into it :)
1193766979 M * glen_ however perhaps should push the patches from there upstream
1193766987 M * glen_ (oh and i'm one of pld devilopers too)
1193766995 M * Bertl a good start, IMHO is to get a clean 0.30.214 and try that
1193767029 M * glen_ eh, apis=ALL outputs:
1193767030 M * glen_ lib/syscall-legacy.hc:103: error: impossible constraint in `asm'
1193767030 M * Bertl I think with the proper APIs enabled (again, daniel_hozac will know) you can make it work even with the old devel kernel patch
1193767057 M * Bertl yes, ALL won't work, you only need that for 2.4 kernels
1193767102 M * glen_ if the configure --help is correct then i'm missing just: v13obs
1193767104 M * Bertl but you should definitely try to get a 2.2.x kernel patch or if you like development features a 2.3.x one
1193767122 M * Bertl instead of the long discontinued 2.1.x you are using
1193767139 M * glen_ thx. i'll add a note
1193767172 M * Bertl depending on what your 2.6.16 kernel actually looks like, it might be simple to backport most fixes
1193767223 M * Bertl you are roughly 14 months behind with the 2.1.x patch
1193767301 M * glen_ i'll deal maybe with vserver patch update later
1193767373 M * glen_ i'll ask baggins@pld first so he could do it:)
1193767387 M * Bertl okay
1193767585 M * glen_ hmm
1193767586 M * glen_ now:
1193767586 M * glen_            Available APIs: compat,v11,fscompat,v13obs,v13,net,v21,v22,v23,netv2,oldproc,olduts
1193767592 M * glen_ but it still says:
1193767593 M * glen_ ncontext: vc_net_create(): Invalid argument
1193767611 M * Bertl  show me your line
1193767628 M * glen_ configure one?
1193767633 M * Bertl (for the guest creation=
1193767641 M * Bertl s/=/)
1193767647 M * glen_ # vserver suse build --context 103 -n suse -m yum -- -d opensuse10.3
1193767665 M * glen_ opensuse dir is based on centos5 
1193767686 M * Bertl it's definitely an API mismatch
1193767695 M * Bertl please talk to daniel_hozac ...
1193767705 M * glen_ daniel_hozac, get up
1193767818 M * glen_ but if i get even the api problem solved i still don't find where generateOptions() func is defined
1193767837 M * glen_ ah. damn, some file is unpackaged. damn
1193767862 M * Bertl also double check that you do not have two sets of tools installed
1193768287 M * glen_ # vserver suse build --context 103 -n suse -m yum -- -d opensuse10.3
1193768288 M * glen_ command '/usr/lib/util-vserver/vrpm-worker' (pid 14009) exited with signal 13; following it...
1193768301 M * glen_ i believe it happens because the vserver root dir doesn't exist
1193768314 M * Bertl why doesn't it exist?
1193768324 M * glen_ i just guess after looking --debug
1193768326 M * Bertl it is created when you install the tools (if it is missing)
1193768344 M * glen_ ah. the base.cleanup probably removes all after failure
1193768365 J * tuxmania ~bonbons@158.64.110.50
1193768417 Q * fosco Quit: leaving
1193768702 Q * bonbons Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1193769085 J * fosco fosco@konoha.devnullteam.org
1193769293 M * phrost what features of grsecurity does the patched system support?
1193769295 M * phrost full RBAC?
1193769645 M * Bertl you mean, a kernel patched with Linux-VServer _and_ grsec, right?
1193769892 J * goeb ~goeb@erft-4db39bb0.pool.einsundeins.de
1193769923 M * Bertl welcome goeb!
1193769935 M * goeb hi
1193769998 M * goeb does anyone know how i can use a vpn-connection established on the host (via vpnc-connect) inside a vserver?
1193770021 M * Bertl simple, if it has an IP, just assign that IP to the guest
1193770106 M * Bertl okay, off for now ... back a little later
1193770112 N * Bertl Bertl_oO
1193770155 M * goeb i think the ip is dynamic. also, i am only connected on demand, and the vpn is only routed for a specific network (that of my university), everything else uses the normal route
1193770400 J * JonB ~NoSuchUse@kg1-98.kollegiegaarden.dk
1193770454 J * Aiken ~james@ppp121-45-228-65.lns1.bne4.internode.on.net
1193770563 J * SuperSSS yang@static-ip-62-75-255-124.inaddr.intergenia.de
1193770563 Q * yang Quit: Changing server
1193770565 M * glen_ uh. i created some default vserver using build tool. then i rm -rf /vservers/suse/* and unpacked there some suse tarball
1193770573 M * glen_ now vserver startup says:
1193770573 M * glen_ vshelper.init: can not determine xid of vserver 'suse'; returned value was ''
1193770581 N * SuperSSS yang
1193770587 M * glen_ and /etc/vservers/suse/context contains 10
1193770662 M * glen_ ah. nevermind. suse rc-script needs patching
1193770669 M * glen_ ie it terminated immediately after startup
1193770812 Q * Punkie Quit: Odcházím
1193770928 M * glen_ # vserver suse enter
1193770928 M * glen_ vlogin: openpty(): No such file or directory
1193770965 M * glen_ ah, no /dev/ptmx :)
1193770993 M * sid3windr hrm
1193771004 M * sid3windr I made a new vserver and nothing inside it can bind to a socket
1193771007 M * sid3windr what did I bork?
1193771030 M * glen_ forgot to setup any interfaces?
1193771075 M * sid3windr nope
1193771081 M * sid3windr "ip a" inside also shows the address
1193771087 M * sid3windr I just keep getting address already in use
1193771087 J * duckx ~Duck@81.57.39.234
1193771100 M * sid3windr and what's pretty weird.. if I telnet to port 25 of that ip ... I get the host's postfix
1193771113 M * sid3windr but netstat on the host shows postfix only listening on the host master ip :|
1193771159 J * eyck ~eyck@nat.nowanet.pl
1193771180 Q * _gh_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1193771258 Q * toidinamai Quit: Leaving
1193771292 Q * ema Quit: leaving
1193771994 J * julius_ ~julius@p57B24DDC.dip.t-dialin.net
1193772431 Q * Julius Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1193772870 J * jenny ~jenny32@d033.dhcp212-198-248.noos.fr
1193772987 Q * jenny 
1193773491 J * _gh_ ~gerrit@bi01p1.co.us.ibm.com
1193773708 J * derjohn_mobil ~aj@e180195136.adsl.alicedsl.de
1193774318 J * CWC ~CWC@89-215-37-177.2073053861.ddns-lan.pl.ekk.bg
1193774364 M * southtel Bertl, you back around?
1193774403 Q * CWC 
1193774881 M * daniel_hozac sid3windr: kernel?
1193775224 M * sid3windr 2.6.16-vs2.0.2-rc14
1193775230 M * sid3windr all other vservers on that host work fine
1193775242 M * sid3windr 5 running, of which one is being problematic :o
1193775361 J * bonbons_ ~bonbons@ppp-110-158.adsl.restena.lu
1193775362 M * daniel_hozac so what does netstat -pnlt and cat /proc/virtnet/<guest>/info show on the host?
1193775373 Q * southtel Read error: Connection reset by peer
1193775692 Q * tuxmania Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1193775762 Q * JonB Quit: This computer has gone to sleep
1193775856 M * sid3windr liberty:/var/lib/vservers# cat /proc/virtnet/49160/info
1193775856 M * sid3windr ID:     49160
1193775856 M * sid3windr Info:   f7d561c0
1193775856 M * sid3windr 0:      195.160.166.158/255.255.255.128
1193775869 M * sid3windr HMM
1193775879 M * daniel_hozac dynamic contexts?
1193775883 M * sid3windr ip address inside is .156
1193775889 M * sid3windr yes, dynamic, please shoot me ;]
1193775893 M * sid3windr old vserver, too
1193775897 Q * hparker Remote host closed the connection
1193775903 M * daniel_hozac well, with dynamic contexts, the behaviour is largely undefined.
1193775920 Q * bonbons_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1193775923 M * daniel_hozac to find out the context you're currently using, use cat /proc/self/ninfo in the guest.
1193775935 M * daniel_hozac (when logging in via ssh or such, vserver ... enter will create a new one)
1193775959 M * sid3windr NID:    49172
1193775959 M * sid3windr V4Root[0]:      195.160.166.156/255.255.255.128
1193775959 M * sid3windr V4Root[bcast]:  0.0.0.0
1193775995 M * daniel_hozac that kernel is old enough not to care much about network contexts though...
1193776000 M * sid3windr I'm quite stunned.
1193776013 M * sid3windr netstat on the host really shows postfix bound to 25 on the host ip -only-
1193776020 M * sid3windr yet telnet to the guest ip on 25 yields that postfix.
1193776036 M * daniel_hozac what's the host's IP?
1193776037 M * sid3windr which, in turn, would explain why the guest's postfix cannot bind to 25
1193776047 M * sid3windr 195.160.166.151
1193776094 M * sid3windr heh
1193776094 M * daniel_hozac and you're sure it's the host's postfix, and not some other guest?
1193776101 M * sid3windr I just found the problem
1193776105 M * daniel_hozac yeah?
1193776108 M * sid3windr another guest with same ip :|
1193776119 M * sid3windr so I guess it was not the hosts postfix either
1193776123 A * sid3windr slaps himself hard :]
1193776125 M * daniel_hozac hehe
1193776139 J * DLange ~dlange@p57A30D56.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
1193776141 M * sid3windr so, much ado about nothing!
1193776148 M * sid3windr thanks for thinking with me :)
1193776150 J * toidinamai ~frank@svenska.toidinamai.de
1193776155 M * daniel_hozac hehe, you're welcome
1193776233 J * larsivi ~larsivi@101.84-48-201.nextgentel.com
1193776259 M * sid3windr hmm
1193776281 M * sid3windr I took down the new one, and it also cleared the older conflicting one of all network traffic ;/
1193776286 M * sid3windr no biggy ;)
1193776326 J * southtel ~southtel@68-114-23-151.dhcp.gwnt.ga.charter.com
1193776380 M * daniel_hozac that's what happens when you give the same IP to multiple guests and don't use nodev ;)
1193776520 M * sid3windr :]
1193776575 J * bonbons_ ~bonbons@ppp-110-164.adsl.restena.lu
1193776697 Q * dowdle Remote host closed the connection
1193776744 J * dowdle ~dowdle@scott.coe.montana.edu
1193777096 Q * _gh_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1193777480 Q * bonbons_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1193777547 Q * dowdle Remote host closed the connection
1193777595 J * dowdle ~dowdle@scott.coe.montana.edu
1193777668 J * _gh_ ~gerrit@bi01p1.co.us.ibm.com
1193777862 Q * Wonka Server closed connection
1193777876 J * Wonka produziert@chaos.in-kiel.de
1193777885 J * FireEgl FireEgl@4.0.0.0.1.0.0.0.c.d.4.8.0.c.5.0.1.0.0.2.ip6.arpa
1193778120 M * Supaplex how can I use one piticular usb device in a guest? (scanner)
1193778130 J * bonbons_ ~bonbons@2001:960:7ab:0:20b:5dff:fec7:6b33
1193778271 M * mnemoc copy the node
1193778282 Q * neuralis Server closed connection
1193778284 J * neuralis ~krstic@solarsail.hcs.harvard.edu
1193778301 Q * derjohn_mobil Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1193778346 M * daniel_hozac if it's libusb, it's an all or nothing, unfortunately.
1193778538 Q * bonbons_ Quit: Leaving
1193778684 M * Supaplex oh, well it looks like xsane has shoddy support for this other scanner I was looking at.
1193778697 A * Supaplex flags it for fleabay
1193778807 Q * ||Cobra|| Server closed connection
1193778817 J * ||Cobra|| ~cob@pc-csa01.science.uva.nl
1193778912 Q * dmnd Server closed connection
1193778913 J * dmnd ~wouter@base.null0.nl
1193779052 Q * harry Server closed connection
1193779055 J * harry ~harry@d54C2508C.access.telenet.be
1193779123 J * marcfi1 ~mef@aegis.CS.Princeton.EDU
1193779992 J * paulproteus ~paulprote@203.178.130.147
1193780119 M * DavidS there it goes, I just pushed a bigge chunk of my hosting stuff public again :) this time i did a few firewalls and finally made a ifupdown::interfaces define
1193780153 P * marcfi1 
1193780318 M * paulproteus I have vserver set up nicely on my Debian sid machine.
1193780328 M * paulproteus How can I install a Fedora guest?  http://wiki.linux-vserver.org/Installing_a_Fedora_7_vserver_guest is an empty page.
1193780335 M * paulproteus Fedora 7 or 8 is okay with me.
1193780375 M * daniel_hozac apt-get install yum; vserver your-f7-guest build -m yum --hostn... -- -d f7
1193780384 M * daniel_hozac Fedora 8 has not been released yet.
1193780402 M * paulproteus daniel_hozac, Well, "Fedora 7.92", but that's right. (-:
1193780416 M * daniel_hozac that's test3, which is pretty old by now.
1193780435 M * daniel_hozac RCs should be appearing soon...
1193780501 M * DavidS oops -ECHAN
1193780538 N * Bertl_oO Bertl
1193780547 M * Bertl DavidS: sounded interesting nevertheless :)
1193780668 J * dna ~dna@61-208-dsl.kielnet.net
1193780763 M * paulproteus daniel_hozac, Hey, thanks a lot.  I'm so used to the friendly newvserver script. (-:
1193780781 M * daniel_hozac don't use newvserver.
1193780800 M * paulproteus Oh, why not?
1193780826 M * daniel_hozac Debianism that doesn't really offer anything interesting.
1193780835 M * daniel_hozac (maybe that should be Olaism...)
1193780938 M * DavidS Bertl: well, it _is_ interesting, nothing vserver related though: puppet is a configuration management tool like cfengine , just without the bleeding eyes and broken fingers
1193780972 M * daniel_hozac heh.
1193780981 M * DavidS and I'm building a repository of various puppet modules to manage parts of my hosting stuff ... currently firewalls are big on my todo list
1193781014 M * paulproteus root@asheesh:~# vserver f7 enter
1193781014 M * paulproteus bash-3.2# rpm
1193781014 M * paulproteus bash: rpm: command not found
1193781014 M * paulproteus bash-3.2# yum
1193781014 M * paulproteus bash: yum: command not found
1193781018 M * paulproteus Hmm, that's interesting.
1193781019 M * DavidS I even have a vserver module :)
1193781034 M * Bertl paulproteus: (regarding newvserver) the problem is, it is constantly outdated, doing strange things and won't exist on any other platform
1193781035 M * paulproteus Boy, I guess it really did a minimal install....
1193781043 M * Bertl DavidS: excellent!
1193781048 M * daniel_hozac paulproteus: it's external package management by default. vyum f7 -- install yum; vserver f7 pkgmgmt internalize
1193781048 M * paulproteus Bertl, Yes, sounds good, I can get used to using vserver build.
1193781058 M * paulproteus daniel_hozac, Okay, interesting. (-:
1193781111 M * paulproteus Looks like Ola isn't even mentioned in debian/changelog for about a year.
1193781142 A * paulproteus is a little freaked out that he's using yum on his Debian box to install yum on this new fake Fedora box
1193781164 M * Bertl hehe :)
1193781171 M * sid3windr :)
1193781208 M * paulproteus root@asheesh:~# vyum f7 -- install yum
1193781208 M * paulproteus 'vserver ... suexec' is supported for running vservers only; aborting...
1193781213 M * daniel_hozac for vserver-debiantools? AFAIK he's the only maintainer.
1193781217 M * sid3windr well, is it running? ;)
1193781221 M * paulproteus For util-vserver.
1193781231 M * daniel_hozac oh, yes, micah has taken over that.
1193781236 M * paulproteus sid3windr, Well, er, I tried it with f7 running, but then I was told:
1193781236 M * paulproteus Can not operate on running vservers; please stop 'f7' and retry again...
1193781244 M * paulproteus I've also been told:
1193781248 M * paulproteus In the meantime, 'vyum' will continue with dirty hacks which might not
1193781248 M * paulproteus work when the vserver is running and local DOS attacks are possible.
1193781258 M * daniel_hozac what did you do, exactly?
1193781259 M * paulproteus Oh, hmm, guess I should read the rest of the message!
1193781272 M * paulproteus Hmm, okay.
1193781278 M * paulproteus daniel_hozac, Let me start at the top.
1193781284 M * paulproteus root@asheesh:~# vserver   f7 build -m yum --hostname f7 -- -d f7 
1193781294 M * paulproteus That succeeded.
1193781306 M * paulproteus (I guess I didn't specify an IP address for no good reason; oops.)
1193781344 M * paulproteus Then I "vserver f7 start"ed and "vserver f7 enter"ed.  Both succeeded.
1193781354 M * paulproteus Let me note now that when I created the vserver, I got a message saying, in two paragraphs:
1193781366 M * daniel_hozac i know what the message says.
1193781366 M * paulproteus Paragraph 1 first line: You are using a version of yum which is insecure and broken in chroot
1193781370 A * paulproteus nods
1193781382 M * paulproteus With f7 running, I carelessly ran:
1193781392 M * paulproteus vyum f7 -- install yum; vserver f7 pkgmgmt internalize
1193781409 M * daniel_hozac the first should be fine, the latter would've failed.
1193781414 J * michal ~michal@www.rsbac.org
1193781419 M * michal :)
1193781426 A * michal is back, writing from end of the world
1193781426 M * paulproteus Oh, you may be right!
1193781435 M * paulproteus It was so quick I thought it failed....
1193781455 M * daniel_hozac michal: and where is that? :)
1193781458 M * paulproteus One of them complained that f7 should not be running, but I figured it was the yum install that complained, not the other one.
1193781492 M * michal daniel_hozac: part of Poland, small (very) village, hard to find even if ou know the address ;)
1193781498 M * michal for a week
1193781503 M * michal kind of vacation
1193781504 M * daniel_hozac paulproteus: no, that would've been the second one.
1193781533 M * daniel_hozac michal: sounds nice ;)
1193781542 M * Bertl michal: enjoy yor vacation then!
1193781546 M * michal sure :)
1193781548 M * michal thx!
1193781560 M * michal and  i'\ve took laptop and internet connection there too :P
1193781588 M * Bertl with satellite dish an such? :)
1193781603 M * michal luckily there's gprs access from two years
1193781618 M * michal just imagine it - most of the Poland has umts
1193781626 M * michal bigger cities hsdpa
1193781640 M * michal very small ones at least edge
1193781666 M * michal here it's gprs and you are lucky if you can use it - i have BIG external antena on this house :)
1193781671 M * DavidS michal: must have been an interesting ride for the polish people ...
1193781695 M * michal well, it's cool place
1193781704 M * michal to say, spend a week, relax
1193781708 M * michal forests and such
1193781712 Q * doener Server closed connection
1193781714 M * paulproteus Very cool.
1193781716 M * michal nice people
1193781719 J * doener ~doener@host.magicwars.de
1193781741 Q * dna Quit: Verlassend
1193781780 M * michal http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&time=&date=&ttype=&q=Wlonice+O%C5%BCar%C3%B3w+gmina,+Opatowski,+Swietokrzyskie,+Poland&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=74.281893,114.257813&ie=UTF8&cd=2&geocode=0,50.914483,21.709211&ll=50.914818,21.70922&spn=0.007454,0.013947&z=16&iwloc=addr&om=1
1193781785 M * michal ups
1193781786 M * michal too big url
1193781815 M * michal lol, usa seems to have pictures of everything
1193781817 M * michal even this place
1193781887 M * paulproteus daniel_hozac, Does it matter that the second one failed?  I'm using yum inside the vserver and it's working marvelously.
1193781906 M * daniel_hozac paulproteus: you should rerun it with the guest stopped.
1193781922 M * paulproteus daniel_hozac, I think I did, actually, sort of by accident.
1193781937 M * paulproteus Since I thought it was unmistakeably the first one that failed, I just stopped the guest and did <up><enter>.
1193781958 M * paulproteus And the vyum failed, but I guess the second command succeeded. 
1193781997 M * daniel_hozac well then, everything should be working as expected.
1193782005 A * paulproteus nods
1193782538 Q * toidinamai Quit: Leaving
1193782900 Q * DLange Quit: Bye, bye. Hasta luego.
1193783421 Q * DavidS Quit: Leaving.
1193784024 J * toidinamai ~frank@svenska.toidinamai.de
1193784447 Q * goeb Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1193785875 Q * julius_ Remote host closed the connection
1193785898 M * paulproteus Do you guys have problems using X forwarding when SSHing into guests?  I'm ssh -X'd into my f7 guest and I get:
1193785899 M * paulproteus [paulproteus@f7 ~]$ xterm
1193785899 M * paulproteus X11 connection rejected because of wrong authentication.
1193785934 M * Bertl works fine here, double check that the authentication is correct :)
1193785960 M * Bertl typical causes are: wrong IP, using localhost vs. hostname etc
1193785978 M * Bertl errors could be in sshd_config or /etc/hosts
1193785993 M * [Guy] ... or no xauth installed in guest
1193785993 N * [Guy] Guy-
1193786000 M * paulproteus I did just install xauth, fwiw.
1193786031 M * Guy- compare the output of "xauth list" with $DISPLAY and xauth list on your local side
1193786108 M * paulproteus X11UseLocalhost no
1193786118 M * paulproteus I just made it "no" (from unset, which I think means "yes") and now it works fine.
1193786209 M * Guy- makes sense
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