1192667316 Q * coderanger_ Quit: 1192667341 J * coderanger_ ~coderange@sylvester-68.dynamic2.rpi.edu 1192668828 Q * coderanger_ Quit: coderanger_ 1192669171 J * coderanger_ ~coderange@daffy-duck-44.dynamic2.rpi.edu 1192669965 J * friendly12345 ~friendly@ppp59-167-69-153.lns1.mel4.internode.on.net 1192671633 J * Guest2009 ~ensc@www.sigma-chemnitz.de 1192671653 Q * Guest1249 Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1192674060 Q * coderanger_ Quit: coderanger_ 1192674129 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ 1192675050 M * brc Bertl_zZ: How can i do that? I am going to sleep it is already 1am here (my birthday today : ) ) 1192675050 M * brc hehe 1192675053 M * brc but tomorrow i will enable 1192675058 M * brc tomorrow = after waking up in 6 hours 1192675061 M * brc gnight 1192676519 J * hallyn_ ~xa@adsl-75-2-70-122.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net 1192676884 Q * hallyn Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1192679710 J * balbir ~balbir@59.178.56.243 1192680232 Q * balbir Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1192680871 J * balbir ~balbir@59.178.32.63 1192681598 Q * balbir Read error: Operation timed out 1192682021 Q * Fire_Egl Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1192682310 J * balbir ~balbir@59.178.54.21 1192682503 J * Fire_Egl FireEgl@2001:5c0:84dc:1:142f:d2ea:6ee:203 1192683181 Q * balbir Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1192683890 J * balbir ~balbir@59.178.40.133 1192685264 Q * Fire_Egl Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1192685632 Q * balbir Read error: Operation timed out 1192685750 J * Fire_Egl FireEgl@2001:5c0:84dc:1:88c0:3615:fdb7:6fb 1192687146 Q * hparker Quit: g'nite 1192687461 J * larsivi ~larsivi@101.84-48-201.nextgentel.com 1192687490 J * sharkjaw ~lgab@shell.ormset.no 1192687947 J * JonB ~NoSuchUse@0x5739c8b4.roennqu1.broadband.tele.dk 1192688075 J * virtuoso_ ~s0t0na@pppoe-157.58.110.89-adsl.spbnit.ru 1192688240 Q * larsivi Quit: Konversation terminated! 1192688332 Q * virtuoso Read error: Connection reset by peer 1192688353 M * epicbjorn happy birthday brc :) 1192689882 Q * JonB Quit: This computer has gone to sleep 1192689922 M * Supaplex *yawn* 1192690305 Q * ensc Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1192690714 J * speedy ~speedy@194.126.63.191 1192690714 Q * speedy 1192690730 J * speedy ~speedy@194.126.63.191 1192690847 J * JonB ~NoSuchUse@0x5739c8b4.roennqu1.broadband.tele.dk 1192691363 J * larsivi ~larsivi@85.221.53.194 1192691397 J * ensc ~irc-ensc@p54B4FEE2.dip.t-dialin.net 1192691457 Q * larsivi 1192691606 J * larsivi ~larsivi@85.221.53.194 1192691696 Q * transaci1 Remote host closed the connection 1192691786 J * transacid ~transacid@transacid.de 1192692108 Q * grobie Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1192692172 J * grobie ~grobie@master.schnuckelig.eu 1192692200 Q * sladen Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1192692525 J * sladen paul@starsky.19inch.net 1192692729 J * Julius ~julius@p57B249B9.dip.t-dialin.net 1192692777 M * Julius guten morgen 1192692930 J * pmenier ~pmenier@LNeuilly-152-22-72-5.w193-251.abo.wanadoo.fr 1192693176 J * Piet ~piet@tor.noreply.org 1192693224 Q * JonB Quit: This computer has gone to sleep 1192693686 J * gebura ~gebura@173.201.101-84.rev.gaoland.net 1192693852 M * gebura hi 1192695121 J * JonB ~NoSuchUse@0x5739c8b4.roennqu1.broadband.tele.dk 1192695296 Q * JonB 1192695343 J * dna ~dna@215-235-dsl.kielnet.net 1192695908 N * esa eSa| 1192698401 Q * speedy Quit: [BX] Reserve your copy of BitchX-1.1-final for the Atari 2600 today! 1192699351 M * alex__ with vserver-util can you limit the amount of bandwdith each guest uses? 1192699533 M * sannes alex__: You can probably shape it the same way you do normally .. 1192699584 M * sannes alex__: but you have to somehow be able to differenciate between the vservers, I don't know much about that, but if they were using different ips .. 1192699593 M * alex__ they are 1192699609 M * alex__ using different ip's :) 1192699611 M * sannes then it should be straightforward 1192699614 M * alex__ ok 1192699719 M * sannes search for linux traffic shaping on google 1192700065 M * alex__ any openvcp users here? 1192700267 M * alex__ for some reason my openvcp is trying to redirect me to http://openvcp/auth when i try and connect to it in the browser 1192700894 J * lilalinux ~plasma@dslb-084-058-213-150.pools.arcor-ip.net 1192701343 M * alex__ got it working now ;) 1192701351 M * alex__ can anyone explain to me these limits 1192701357 M * alex__ rss [MB] 1192701358 M * alex__ nproc 1192701358 M * alex__ nofile 1192701358 M * alex__ memlock 1192701358 M * alex__ as [MB] 1192701358 M * alex__ locks 1192701372 M * alex__ and whats the difference between minimum, soft, and hard? 1192702107 J * DavidS ~david@193.170.138.34 1192702293 Q * gebura Quit: Quitte 1192702614 J * FHTech ~Miranda@78.106.51.201 1192702628 M * FHTech hello 1192702634 M * FHTech tell please, what it is better to use sched_prio or sched_hard? It is required to limit severely CPU for vserver 1192702754 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl 1192702760 M * Bertl morning folks! 1192702781 M * Bertl alex__: http://linux-vserver.org/Resource_Limits 1192702823 M * Bertl FHTech: limiting will only work with sched_hard 1192702839 M * DavidS moin Bertl! 1192702853 M * Bertl FHTech: the sched_prio is designed to adjust the priorities 1192702868 J * speedy ~speedy@194.126.63.158 1192702888 M * FHTech Bertl: thanks 1192702929 M * alex__ Bertl, morning, and thanks :) 1192702937 M * speedy good morning 1192702946 M * Bertl wb speedy! 1192702991 M * speedy thanks bertl 1192703637 Q * FHTech Quit: FHTech 1192703731 J * JonB ~NoSuchUse@0x535f65c3.kjnxx7.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk 1192704444 J * dreamind ~dreamind@C2107.campino.wh.tu-darmstadt.de 1192704481 N * dreamind Guest2037 1192704493 Q * Guest2037 1192704496 J * dreamind_ ~dreamind@C2107.campino.wh.tu-darmstadt.de 1192704629 M * alex__ Bertl, when setting a max hdd usage, what is the resource limiting setting for it? 1192704637 M * dreamind_ Hi :) 1192704654 M * dreamind_ are there any news regarding 2.6.23? 1192704766 M * dreamind_ because the 2.6.22.9 patch has several reject files when applying to a 2.6.23 - and I thought before fixing them I'd ask here ;) 1192704787 M * alex__ when i try and enforce a space setting, or get information on current used disk yage a guest has, i get N/A 1192704794 M * alex__ do i have to install quotas? 1192704848 M * dreamind_ hm, I use lvm and a lv per server to enforce disk usage - but for symlinked vservers I think thats not possible... (I mean hard links to keep disk space usage down) 1192704908 M * mugwump it is possible 1192704919 M * mugwump you just need a single filesystem for the bits you want to hardlink together 1192704933 M * dreamind_ mugwump: I know :) 1192704937 M * mugwump and then play tricks in the scripts/pre-start to bind mount in paths from your shared filesystem 1192704999 M * dreamind_ my vservers mostly are completely different - so hardlink stuff and a shared filesystem wouldn't help me much :) 1192705011 M * mugwump sure 1192705050 N * dreamind_ dreamind 1192705068 M * dreamind so thats better, dunno why colloquy never gets this right :( 1192705104 M * Bertl alex__: http://linux-vserver.org/Documentation 1192705145 M * Bertl dreamind: hack on an let me know when you have a 2.6.23 version ready 1192705178 M * dreamind Bertl: ok :) I'll start after having lunch, and will let you know :) 1192705209 M * alex__ Bertl, :) 1192705220 M * dreamind is there a current "split" patch, or only the 2.6.22 "combined" patch which I can use as a starting point? 1192705245 M * Bertl only the recent 2.6.22 patches, atm 1192705264 M * dreamind hm, ok - because I guess a split patch would make patching newer kernels easier... 1192705299 M * Bertl feel free to make one first ... 1192705319 M * dreamind hmmm 1192705382 M * dreamind 56 rejects 1192705717 Q * quasisane Quit: ERC Version 5.2 (IRC client for Emacs) 1192706224 M * dreamind oh well some rejects look really tricky :( 1192706283 M * Bertl check out the 2.6.23 pre patches, maybe they'll help you somewhat 1192706446 M * dreamind I'm currently looking at the gitweb, maybe I need to do it the opposite way 1192706461 M * dreamind applying the 2.6.22 patch and then doing a git pull... 1192706466 M * Bertl nah, I meant the Linux-VServer ones :) 1192706488 M * dreamind where can I find the pre patches? 1192706513 M * Bertl usual place ... http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Experimental/ 1192706548 M * dreamind ah! ok 1192706553 M * dreamind sorry didn't know that... 1192706569 M * Bertl np, note that those patches do not handle the scheduler part yet 1192706589 M * Bertl also XFS is broken (how unexpected) and everything user related needs a check 1192706598 M * dreamind oh well... 1192706609 M * dreamind so I guess thats not a thing I can handle 1192706618 M * dreamind I'm not very familiar with kernel hacking 1192706632 M * dreamind and I use xfs extensively 1192706722 M * dreamind how do I notice the xfs brokenness? 1192706734 M * dreamind will it simply not work, or not compile, or what else fails? 1192706739 M * Bertl it doesn't compile atm 1192706748 M * dreamind ah ok, maybe I can fix that 1192707176 J * quasisane ~sanep@c-76-118-191-64.hsd1.nh.comcast.net 1192707188 M * dreamind hm, seems some parts are missing in the pre patch for the xfs stuff 1192707208 M * dreamind every other filesystem contains defines for the used macros, but not for xfs, I'll fix that 1192707782 M * dreamind oh well, now I see the problem - the flags bitfield is only a 16 bit int - and 15 bits are already used 1192707790 M * dreamind 2 more needed - with no space left 1192707822 M * dreamind :( 1192707884 M * dreamind hm, in gfs the di_flags is a 32bit int 1192707886 M * alex__ where abouts do you put images? 1192707886 M * dreamind hm 1192707889 M * alex__ in vservers 1192707923 M * alex__ i have some bz2 files, which directory do i put these images? :) 1192707932 M * alex__ or do i have to extract them? 1192707952 Q * larsivi Quit: Konversation terminated! 1192708085 M * alex__ anyone? 1192708156 M * alex__ for exmaple i have a image template that i want to use on other vservers 1192708223 M * dreamind hm, ok thats not possible changing di_flags - it seems to be in the superblock :( 1192708494 M * dreamind or in the direntry - hmm I don't get that :( 1192708520 Q * Fire_Egl Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1192708530 Q * FireEgl Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1192708833 Q * Aiken Quit: Leaving 1192708957 P * friendly12345 1192709068 M * dreamind well have to go, bbl 1192709073 Q * dreamind Quit: dreamind 1192709129 Q * JonB Quit: This computer has gone to sleep 1192709534 J * JonB ~NoSuchUse@0x535f65c3.kjnxx7.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk 1192709878 Q * JonB Quit: This computer has gone to sleep 1192710206 J * JonB ~NoSuchUse@0x535f65c3.kjnxx7.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk 1192710458 J * larsivi ~larsivi@85.221.53.194 1192710545 J * coderanger_ ~coderange@x-24b-11.dynamic2.rpi.edu 1192710873 J * FireEgl FireEgl@2001:5c0:84dc:1:88c0:3615:fdb7:6fb 1192710905 J * Fire_Egl FireEgl@4.0.0.0.1.0.0.0.c.d.4.8.0.c.5.0.1.0.0.2.ip6.arpa 1192710942 J * Yvo yvonne@vpn-9-020.rz.uni-mannheim.de 1192711298 M * Bertl okay, off for now .. back later ... 1192711303 N * Bertl Bertl_oO 1192711778 M * harry Bertl_oO: damn... 1192711953 J * gebura ~gebura@77.192.186.197 1192711958 Q * hallyn_ Quit: leaving 1192711972 J * hallyn ~xa@adsl-75-2-70-122.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net 1192712433 M * alex__ WARNING: '/usr/local/etc/vservers/hex1/etc/apt/trustdb.gpg' does not end on newline 1192712433 M * alex__ WARNING: '/usr/local/etc/vservers/hex1/etc/ld.so.cache' does not end on newline 1192712447 M * alex__ im getting a whole lot of these errors while starting a vserver# 1192712457 M * alex__ can anyone please tell me how to get rid of them ? 1192712523 M * JonB alex__: is that with util-vserver or VCD? 1192712559 M * alex__ i do the command vserver hex1 start 1192712560 Q * Piet Remote host closed the connection 1192712601 M * alex__ so i think util-verver 1192712604 M * alex__ vserver 1192712614 M * JonB alex__: which version? 1192712624 Q * Yvo Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1192712643 M * alex__ 0.30.213 1192712654 J * Piet ~piet@tor.noreply.org 1192712757 M * alex__ how do i create my own images for guest 1192712758 M * alex__ s 1192712763 M * alex__ im using someone elses then 1192712848 A * alex__ reads docs 1192712982 Q * Julius Remote host closed the connection 1192713239 Q * JonB Quit: This computer has gone to sleep 1192713442 J * pm3nier ~pmenier@LNeuilly-152-22-72-5.w193-251.abo.wanadoo.fr 1192713442 Q * pmenier Read error: Connection reset by peer 1192713686 Q * sharkjaw Quit: Leaving 1192713830 J * Piet_ ~piet@tor.noreply.org 1192714124 M * alex__ km31919:/usr/local/etc/vservers# vserver hex build -m debootstrap --hostname hlagh.naturalservers.com --interface 85.19.178.6/27 -- -d etch -m http://sunsite.informatik.rwth- aachen.de/ftp/pub/Linux/debian/ --resolve-deps --arch i386 --force 1192714124 M * alex__ No device specified for interface '0'; setting 'nodev' 1192714124 M * alex__ E: No such script: i386 1192714127 M * alex__ wtf....... !!!!! 1192714144 M * alex__ chroot-sh: open("/etc/apt/sources.list"): No such file or directory 1192714235 Q * Piet_ Quit: Piet_ 1192714259 Q * Piet Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1192714510 M * speedy i use --interface eth0:85.19.178.6/27 1192714540 M * alex__ in my ifconfig 1192714541 M * alex__ its 1192714547 M * alex__ eth3:4 85.19...... 1192714549 M * alex__ can i use 1192714558 M * alex__ eth3:4:85.19..... ? 1192714562 M * daniel_hozac no. 1192714566 M * alex__ just eth3? 1192714570 M * daniel_hozac if it's already setup, nodev is the right thing. 1192714576 M * alex__ ok 1192714599 M * alex__ WARNING: '/usr/local/etc/vservers/hex1/etc/apt/trusted.gpg~' does not end on newline 1192714599 M * alex__ WARNING: '/usr/local/etc/vservers/hex1/etc/apt/trustdb.gpg' does not end on newline 1192714599 M * alex__ WARNING: '/usr/local/etc/vservers/hex1/etc/ld.so.cache' does not end on newline 1192714604 M * alex__ im getting a few thosand of these 1192714608 M * alex__ whats causing it ! D: 1192714621 M * daniel_hozac why on earth did you extract a template in the _configuration_ directory?? 1192714735 M * alex__ uhm 1192714737 M * alex__ hmm 1192714769 M * alex__ since openvcp was fucking with me, it was looking for files in /usr/local/etc/vservers 1192714782 M * alex__ well vserver-utils was 1192714785 M * daniel_hozac that's _configuration_. 1192714799 M * alex__ righjt 1192714803 M * alex__ back to the drawing board 1192714806 J * Julius ~julius@p57B249B9.dip.t-dialin.net 1192714815 M * speedy daniel_hozac snmp goes in host node or guests? 1192714827 M * daniel_hozac speedy: depends on what you want to use it for, i suppose. 1192714861 M * alex__ daniel_hozac, how do i tell vserver utils that the guests are in /vservers/ 1192714861 M * speedy monitoring network, hd, memory, cpu 1192714866 M * daniel_hozac i.e. both make sense, just differetn senarios. 1192714869 M * daniel_hozac +english 1192714870 M * alex__ because i had it going to /usr/local/etc/vservers 1192714895 M * daniel_hozac alex__: okay, you know a guest consists of two things, configuration and the actual guest, right? 1192714901 M * alex__ no.. 1192714905 M * alex__ now i know 1192714960 M * daniel_hozac if you didn't change anything, configuration goes in /usr/local/etc/vservers/ and the guest goes in /vservers/. 1192714970 Q * larsivi Quit: Konversation terminated! 1192715098 M * alex__ ok right 1192715111 M * alex__ ive recreated /vservers etc 1192715118 M * alex__ running anothing debootstrap 1192715218 M * alex__ daniel_hozac, pm :) 1192715235 M * daniel_hozac http://linux-vserver.org/Installation_on_Linux_2.6 1192715257 M * daniel_hozac in particular, see the vprocunhide part... 1192715258 M * alex__ ... you want me to reinstall? 1192715283 M * daniel_hozac no. 1192715293 M * daniel_hozac just read the instructions for how to install, as you're not finished yet. 1192715333 M * alex__ ah 1192715339 M * alex__ right i need to add that to startup 1192715344 M * alex__ i had rebooted since installation 1192716041 Q * speedy Quit: BitchX-1.1-final by panasync 1192716485 J * lilalinux_ ~plasma@dslb-084-058-250-077.pools.arcor-ip.net 1192716855 Q * lilalinux Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1192717604 Q * Julius Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1192718257 J * speedy ~speedy@home.speedy.org 1192718392 J * ema ~ema@rtfm.galliera.it 1192719246 M * alex__ whats the best way to copy a guest image so i can use it agian later on in another gues? 1192719248 M * alex__ rsync it? 1192719262 M * daniel_hozac vserver ... build --help 1192719312 M * alex__ i want to be able to put it into the images directory for later use on other guests 1192719320 M * alex__ this can be done via vserver .. build ? 1192719346 M * daniel_hozac building new guests from a template or a guest? yes. 1192719355 M * alex__ should i use clone or rsync? 1192719363 M * daniel_hozac yes :) 1192719432 M * speedy i prefer cloning 1192719442 M * speedy took 5 secs 1192719466 M * daniel_hozac clone is indeed much faster if you have unified files. 1192719618 M * djbclark is there a vserver file that lets you give a vserver interface a fake mac address? 1192719640 M * daniel_hozac given that Linux-VServer is IP address isolation, no. 1192719806 M * djbclark may be having an issue with a router that rejects multuple ips behind a single mac - but may also be something more pedestrian 1192719834 M * daniel_hozac that sounds very strange. 1192719963 M * djbclark yep. did the arp ping ever get integrated into vserver start? not that that is prob the issue either way, as it was up with the new ips for hours 1192720002 M * daniel_hozac given that i've never heard of anyone doing that, no. 1192720021 M * daniel_hozac i also don't see the point, unless you're doing heartbeat. 1192720273 Q * pm3nier Quit: pm3nier 1192720383 M * djbclark (see the very end of http://oldwiki.linux-vserver.org/VirtualizeHowto -- it recommends doing arping -S NEW.IP -c 5 BROADCAST.ADDRESS" to tell everyone the new MAC address of the server) 1192720420 M * daniel_hozac right, when doing heartbeat and such that makes sense. 1192720445 M * daniel_hozac if you're just using the IP for the first time, nobody will have it. 1192720481 M * djbclark ah 1192721024 M * alex__ hmmmm i need help confiuring my memory settings on this box: 1192721025 M * alex__ hlagh:~# man hostname 1192721033 M * alex__ /usr/bin/nroff: fork: Cannot allocate memory 1192721040 M * alex__ groff:fatal error: fork: Cannot allocate memory 1192721063 M * alex__ my VSZ exploded on this machine 1192721073 M * alex__ km31919:~# vserver-stat 1192721074 M * alex__ CTX PROC VSZ RSS userTIME sysTIME UPTIME NAME 1192721074 M * alex__ 7004 61 490.1M 15.8M 0m01s35 0m00s66 22m20s43 hlagh 1192721082 M * alex__ my settings i have is: 1192721098 M * alex__ rss minimum: 128 - soft - 256 - hard 512 1192721111 M * alex__ as - minimum 256 - soft 256 - hard -512 1192721123 M * daniel_hozac uh, you're aware the unit is _pages_ right? 1192721129 M * alex__ what should i change em to so this vserver doesnt chew up / whore memory? 1192721138 M * alex__ uh ah! 1192721142 M * alex__ 4k each page? 1192721151 M * daniel_hozac by default on x86. 1192721157 M * alex__ on a k7? 1192721193 M * daniel_hozac k7 is x86, no? 1192721202 M * alex__ should as be higher than ess by rule of thuimb? 1192721215 M * alex__ daniel_hozac, thought you were talking bout kernels 1192721223 M * alex__ ess = rss 1192721255 M * daniel_hozac you know what as is? 1192721272 M * daniel_hozac (i.e. you've read http://linux-vserver.org/Memory_Limits) 1192721279 M * alex__ yes i read it :) 1192721300 M * alex__ dont really understand by what each process in the context means 1192721325 M * dowdle Here's what's been merged in 2.6.24 so far: http://lwn.net/SubscriberLink/254559/a9f178784cf00071/ 1192721371 M * daniel_hozac alex__: you know what a process is? 1192721374 M * dowdle For clarification, that's the 2.6.24 Linux kernel. 1192721375 M * alex__ yes :) 1192721383 M * daniel_hozac and a context? 1192721393 M * alex__ yes 1192721403 M * daniel_hozac so... what is it that you don't understand? 1192721441 M * alex__ so each process can only be allowed that amount of memory? 1192721449 M * daniel_hozac no. 1192721462 M * daniel_hozac it's the _total_, just as it says........ 1192721493 M * alex__ ok 1192721515 M * alex__ total amount of memory allowed for all processes or just one? 1192721567 M * alex__ hlagh:/# free 1192721567 M * alex__ total used free shared buffers cached 1192721567 M * alex__ Mem: 512000 14284 497716 0 0 0 1192721567 M * alex__ -/+ buffers/cache: 14284 497716 1192721567 M * alex__ Swap: 512000 0 512000 1192721579 M * alex__ so here i have 512 megs free :) 1192721708 M * alex__ so i basicly set RSS to a lower number than AS 1192721732 M * alex__ ? 1192721816 M * alex__ right after reading the doc agian, i seem to understand 1192721839 Q * gebura Quit: Quitte 1192722399 M * alex__ ok excellent 1192722401 M * alex__ all fixed up 1192722403 M * alex__ now onto the next issue 1192722406 M * alex__ im getting this bug: 1192722413 M * alex__ oort:/# mtr downloade.org 1192722413 M * alex__ mtr: unable to get raw sockets. 1192722419 M * alex__ faw sockets???? 1192722421 M * alex__ raw* 1192722439 M * alex__ anyone know what may be causing this one? 1192722462 M * daniel_hozac guests aren't allowed to use raw sockets as they permit packet forgery and sniffing. 1192722502 M * alex__ thanks ;) 1192723087 M * baldy_ is for 2.6.22.9 the IPv5 patch out? 1192723091 M * baldy_ ipv6 1192723094 M * sid3windr mm, ipv5 ! 1192723098 M * sid3windr the csi version =) 1192723105 M * daniel_hozac huh? 1192723114 M * baldy_ sid3windr: yep ;) typo version hehe 1192723116 M * daniel_hozac 2.6.22.9-vs2.3.0.27 has IPv6 built-in. 1192723125 M * sid3windr http://www.uploadgeek.com/uploads456/1/ipv45.png 1192723128 M * baldy_ ohh oke daniel_hozac ;) 1192723129 M * baldy_ thx 1192723201 J * larsivi ~larsivi@101.84-48-201.nextgentel.com 1192723256 M * daniel_hozac sid3windr: oooh, that one, hehe, yeah. 1192723343 Q * lilalinux_ Remote host closed the connection 1192723649 M * ay The versioning of util-vserver is strange. 1192723654 M * sid3windr Is it? 1192723691 M * ay util-vserver-0.30.212.tar.bz2 09-Dec-2006 17:22 628K people say is too old. 1192723703 M * ay util-vserver-0.30.214.tar.bz2 02-Sep-2007 22:07 660K While this is ok. 1192723739 M * daniel_hozac 10 months old software isn't old? 1192723802 M * ay daniel_hozac: That depends on the software. But it's not the age, but the versioning scheme that is strange here. 1192723815 M * daniel_hozac what's so strange about it? 1192723903 J * Supaplex_ supaplex@166-70-62-194.ip.xmission.com 1192723911 J * tam_ ~tam@gw.nettam.com 1192723911 J * Skram ~mark@HERCULES.sentiensystems.net 1192723927 J * dilinger_ ~dilinger@mail.queued.net 1192723929 M * sid3windr I guess it goes up 1192723930 M * sid3windr :p 1192723933 M * ay Going from version x.xx.xx2 to x.xx.xx4 would indicate a minor, tiny bitzy bugs. 1192723933 M * sid3windr and that's abnormal :p 1192723940 Q * Johnsie synthon.oftc.net xenon.oftc.net 1192723940 Q * mountie synthon.oftc.net xenon.oftc.net 1192723940 Q * mattzerah synthon.oftc.net xenon.oftc.net 1192723940 Q * Skram_ synthon.oftc.net xenon.oftc.net 1192723940 Q * dilinger synthon.oftc.net xenon.oftc.net 1192723940 Q * tam synthon.oftc.net xenon.oftc.net 1192723940 Q * djbclark synthon.oftc.net xenon.oftc.net 1192723940 Q * Supaplex synthon.oftc.net xenon.oftc.net 1192723963 M * ay Atleast usually. Thats why I said it was strange. Not bad, just strange. 1192723967 J * bonbons ~bonbons@2001:960:7ab:0:20b:5dff:fec7:6b33 1192723967 M * daniel_hozac so the kernel, 2.6.22 to 2.6.23 is minor, tiny bitzy changes? 1192724026 J * djbclark dclark@opensysadmin.com 1192724030 M * ay No. But i've yet to see stable kernels in the hundres.. 1192724034 M * ay hundredes. 1192724045 M * daniel_hozac it started at 190. 1192724051 M * daniel_hozac and it's alpha. 1192724089 M * daniel_hozac http://oldwiki.linux-vserver.org/alpha+util-vserver explains it. 1192724164 M * ay Would you still say it's alpha? 1192724187 M * ay I've been using it for several years. And as far as I know. There isn't a stable alternative. 1192724197 M * daniel_hozac yes, it's alpha. 1192724223 M * daniel_hozac in practice that just means i can change the names of configuration files as i please :) 1192724243 M * speedy daniel_hozac after successful openvpn authentication to vps server i cannot see tun0 device in ifconfig 1192724248 M * ay Yes. But people do that using major versions. 1192724270 M * daniel_hozac in that case we'd be at 214.0.0 right now... would that be better? 1192724296 M * daniel_hozac speedy: how did you create it? 1192724340 M * ay No. Don't get me wrong. I'm not trying to stir up anything. 1192724340 M * speedy we created it together 1192724360 M * speedy openvpn --mkdev as i remember 1192724364 M * speedy in host 1192724375 M * speedy it shows in ip addr ls 1192724375 M * daniel_hozac speedy: so, ip addr ls dev tun0 shows it has the correct IP address, and cat /proc/virtnet//info shows it's assigned? 1192724391 M * speedy no ip address assigned 1192724401 M * daniel_hozac that'll be why. 1192724419 M * speedy i didnt use to assign ip address 1192724427 M * speedy it should pickup from openvpn config 1192724459 M * daniel_hozac openvpn in the guest is not allowed to set that kind of thing. 1192724472 M * daniel_hozac you should use ifconfig-noexec and configure the address on the host as well. 1192724490 M * speedy alright 1192724506 J * Yarcanox ~Yarcanox@p57B0ED97.dip.t-dialin.net 1192724540 M * Yarcanox how can I find out how much RAM all my programs need (including all my different users), but not all the programs from the whole server, which I get with "free" 1192724566 M * daniel_hozac Yarcanox: grep RSS /proc/virtual//limit 1192724591 J * mountie ~mountie@trb229.travel-net.com 1192724612 J * Johnsie ~jdlewis@c-67-163-142-234.hsd1.pa.comcast.net 1192724697 J * mattzerah ~matt@121.50.219.188 1192724836 M * Yarcanox grep: /proc/virtual/thespecialid/limit: No such file or directory 1192724844 M * Yarcanox daniel_hozac, /proc/virtual/ seems not to exist 1192724854 M * daniel_hozac on the host? 1192724918 M * Yarcanox on the vserver 1192724960 M * daniel_hozac well, you need to do it on the host... 1192724968 M * Yarcanox but I am on the vserver 1192724975 M * Yarcanox how can I find out the memory now, as a vserver user? 1192724978 M * Yarcanox which my programs need 1192724983 M * Yarcanox or is there no way to do it 1192725104 M * daniel_hozac if your guest is limited to a certain amount of RAM, free would show it. 1192725108 M * daniel_hozac if not, you're out of luck. 1192725213 M * Yarcanox daniel_hozac a process gets killed because it needs too much memory 1192725224 M * Yarcanox so the limitation is probably put into force with some kind of guard program 1192725240 M * Yarcanox but I'd like to know how much memory is left, so I need how much memory my programs need altogether 1192725250 M * Yarcanox (but not all all the programs on the vserver which free shows) 1192725476 J * eric_ ~eric@ool-43566ac0.dyn.optonline.net 1192725479 N * eric_ jkl 1192725485 M * jkl Hello! 1192725509 M * daniel_hozac hi 1192725528 M * daniel_hozac Yarcanox: well, i guess you could just add up the RSS values from ps. that's not going to be entirely accurate though. 1192726118 N * Bertl_oO Bertl 1192726125 M * Bertl back now .. 1192726128 M * jkl is http://oldwiki.linux-vserver.org/Vservers+and+X the best page to look at for info on running X inside a vserver? 1192726168 M * Bertl jkl: the url would suggest so :) 1192726201 J * Julius ~julius@p57B24B6D.dip.t-dialin.net 1192726515 Q * ema Quit: leaving 1192726855 Q * Julius Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1192726894 J * raa ~raa@207.114.230.7 1192727260 J * Julius ~julius@p57B24B6D.dip.t-dialin.net 1192728122 J * hparker ~hparker@linux.homershut.net 1192728471 Q * alex__ Remote host closed the connection 1192729938 Q * coderanger_ Quit: coderanger_ 1192729942 J * JonB ~NoSuchUse@0x5739c8b4.roennqu1.broadband.tele.dk 1192730979 N * dilinger_ dilinger 1192731500 Q * raa Quit: Leaving 1192732100 Q * bragon Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1192732127 J * ema ~ema@rtfm.galliera.it 1192732211 J * ntrs__ ~ntrs@79.125.248.175 1192732440 J * Yvo ~yvonne@ip-90-186-8-176.web.vodafone.de 1192732536 J * coderanger_ ~coderange@taz-42.dynamic2.rpi.edu 1192732663 J * bragon ~bragon@2001:7a8:aa58::1 1192733070 Q * larsivi Quit: Konversation terminated! 1192733495 J * larsivi ~larsivi@101.84-48-201.nextgentel.com 1192733707 J * jkl_ ~eric@ool-43566ac0.dyn.optonline.net 1192733827 Q * jkl Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1192733930 P * Yvo 1192734006 J * jkl ~eric@ool-43566ac0.dyn.optonline.net 1192734260 Q * jkl_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1192734297 M * daniel_hozac micah: http://imgs.xkcd.com/blag/meetup/protester.jpg ;) 1192734322 M * JonB hahaha 1192734345 M * daniel_hozac (SCNR) 1192734358 M * micah daniel_hozac: hahah 1192734374 M * Bertl well, when we are at it: http://xkcd.com/329/ 1192734378 M * micah i was thinking of wikipedia when I said it 1192734418 M * Bertl gave me anew idea for the next 'are you a bot?' 1192734435 M * daniel_hozac hehehe, yeah. 1192734440 M * micah what is 'are you a bot'? 1192734452 M * daniel_hozac something people keep asking Bertl :) 1192734465 M * Bertl folks ask that on a regualr basis, after being greeted :) 1192734555 M * JonB did you try reading the next xkcd? 1192734607 M * Bertl hmm? why try? 1192734611 M * micah hahah 1192734624 M * micah Bertl: well ... ARE you? ;) 1192734639 M * Bertl last week was a great one about databases .. sec 1192734646 M * micah that databases one was great 1192734654 M * Bertl http://xkcd.com/327/ 1192734691 M * micah daniel_hozac: do you think I was over the line in my response? 1192734714 M * daniel_hozac the initial response or a response to his response? 1192734728 M * Bertl did I miss something? ML? 1192734733 M * daniel_hozac Debian BTS. 1192734752 M * micah daniel_hozac: oh I haven't even seen his response yet, so I guess I meant the initial one since I haven't made a ssecond 1192734755 M * Bertl url? 1192734757 M * daniel_hozac http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=447166 1192734773 M * daniel_hozac micah: heh, in that case, i was thinking the same thing... 1192734962 M * Bertl is that real? 1192734994 M * daniel_hozac ? 1192735050 M * Bertl it really sounds like a joke to me 1192735099 M * daniel_hozac hehe 1192735111 M * micah Bertl: you dont realize the jokes I shield you from ;) 1192735124 M * micah well daniel_hozac takes a lot of the flak too 1192735155 M * daniel_hozac you get quite a few really... weird "bug" reports. 1192735179 M * JonB at least this cat is more lucky than shroedingers http://xkcd.com/26/ 1192735209 M * Bertl micah: what happened to the plan to make util-vserver and debian-vserver-utils (or whatever it is called) exclusive? 1192735222 M * micah Bertl: Ola resistance wore us down 1192735236 M * micah I hope to become reinvigorated and renew the fight again soon 1192735248 M * daniel_hozac feel free to CC me... 1192735266 M * micah in the last few weeks I finally became the official maintainer of the util-vserver package in debian 1192735267 M * Bertl yeah, if you need somebody to back you up, I'm in :) 1192735277 M * micah although I've been doing it for ages, ola insisted he was the maintainer 1192735288 M * daniel_hozac hehe 1192735314 M * micah ok, I hope to re-open the issue again soon, I'll be sure to CC ;) 1192735352 M * Bertl k, great! 1192735397 M * micah well the guy who reported that last bug maintains some program called sextractor 1192735401 M * micah so.... 1192735414 M * daniel_hozac hehehe 1192735421 M * micah supposedly builds a catalogue of objects from an astronomical image. 1192735439 M * Bertl isn't that an astronomical program? 1192735446 M * micah yeah 1192735452 M * Bertl yeah, I remember that one ... 1192735467 Q * ema Quit: leaving 1192736450 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: did you see a Luiz Fernando C. around here? maybe lcapitulino or so? 1192736546 M * daniel_hozac hmm, not that i can remember. why? 1192736576 M * Bertl he is obviously doing up-to-date mandriva kernel packages for Linux-VServer :) 1192736583 M * daniel_hozac oh, neat. 1192736633 M * daniel_hozac my logs have never seen him. 1192736670 M * Bertl k, well, it's not necessary to show up here for that ... 1192737196 N * virtuoso_ virtuoso 1192737204 Q * Yarcanox Quit: irc.eloxoph.net - the international developer chat 1192738177 Q * coderanger_ Quit: coderanger_ 1192738540 J * coderanger_ ~coderange@ae-lally-green-104.dynamic2.rpi.edu 1192738666 Q * DavidS Quit: Leaving. 1192739146 Q * JonB Quit: This computer has gone to sleep 1192741329 J * Aiken ~james@ppp121-45-206-11.lns1.bne1.internode.on.net 1192741787 Q * bonbons Quit: Leaving 1192742339 Q * Fire_Egl Read error: Connection reset by peer 1192742410 Q * larsivi Read error: Connection reset by peer 1192742501 J * bragon_ ~bragon@2001:7a8:aa58::1 1192742519 J * larsivi ~larsivi@101.84-48-201.nextgentel.com 1192742524 Q * bragon Write error: connection closed 1192742545 Q * larsivi Read error: Connection reset by peer 1192742988 J * faheem__ ~faheem@152.16.8.94 1192743018 M * faheem__ Hi. What is the recommended way of copying a vserver, assuming you have a template set up nicely the way you like it? 1192743039 M * faheem__ vserver build help lists various options. Dunno what the best is. 1192743134 J * Fire_Egl FireEgl@2001:5c0:84dc:1:4:: 1192743183 M * Bertl faheem__: clone and rsync should work, I think clone is the suggested one 1192743300 M * brc bertl if you said something yesterday, regarding debug, i am justo nline right now i lost your response :( 1192743328 M * Bertl brc: just enable VSERVER_DEBUG and friends 1192743340 M * brc So i need to recmopile 1192743346 M * faheem__ I have 0.30.212-1, but don't see clone in the output of vserver - build --help. What am I missing? I remember seeing it somewhere. 1192743364 M * Bertl brc: well, if we want to diagnose more the next time, yes 1192743365 M * faheem__ Ah, looks like it is new in 0.30.213 1192743376 M * Bertl faheem__: backports has 0.30.214 :) 1192743381 M * faheem__ Is it worth getting 0.30.214 over 213? 1192743394 M * Bertl yes 1192743400 M * faheem__ Backports seems to have 213. 1192743453 M * Bertl micah: ping? 1192743465 M * faheem__ I could probably backport 214 myself, I guess... Looks like quite a lot of functionality is being added still. 1192743477 M * micah hi 1192743498 M * micah backports should have 0.30.214, I uploaded it some time ago... I will look at it 1192743505 M * Bertl thanks! 1192743557 M * faheem__ micah: Don't see it here. Will keep an eye out. Thanks. 1192743567 M * matti Bertl: ;] 1192743577 M * micah faheem__: .214 is there 1192743584 M * micah faheem__: try looking again? 1192743588 M * micah http://backports.org/debian/pool/main/u/util-vserver/ 1192743594 M * micah http://backports.org/debian/pool/main/u/util-vserver/util-vserver_0.30.214-3~bpo.1_i386.deb 1192743640 M * faheem__ micah: I'm using the mit mirror. Maybe they're out of date. Any recommendations for a fast up to date mirror for someone in the US southeast (NC)? 1192743655 M * micah faheem__: that is not backports.... 1192743663 M * faheem__ Sorry, that doesn't make sense. 1192743673 M * faheem__ Since backports is separate. 1192743677 M * micah yes, it is 1192743688 M * faheem__ Still see only 213. It 1192743693 M * micah what you will see in the debian mirrors is what is in debian, what you will see in backports is what is in backports 1192743694 M * faheem__ It's odd. 1192743704 M * micah faheem__: you aren't looking at the URLs I pasted above then 1192743726 M * micah faheem__: maybe you are not i386? 1192743728 Q * coderanger_ Quit: coderanger_ 1192743728 M * faheem__ micah: I'm looking at the output of apt-cache policy, which is generally pretty reliable. 1192743740 M * faheem__ micah: I'm amd64 here. 1192743748 M * micah well, there you go 1192743755 M * micah there is no amd64 build yet of that package 1192743768 M * Bertl micah: any reason for that? 1192743769 M * faheem__ micah: You mean backports, or 214 period? 1192743782 M * faheem__ I see it in lenny. 1192743791 M * faheem__ Some dependency complications? 1192743828 M * micah Bertl: presumably because the buildd's have not built it yet, I'll check into that 1192743842 M * Bertl micah: thanks again 1192743848 M * micah faheem__: there is no backports amd64 .214 version available 1192743849 M * faheem__ micah: I presume I could just rebuild the backport sources on amd64, right? 1192743856 M * micah faheem__: yes, you could 1192743875 M * faheem__ micah: Ok, thanks. Well, I'm off. Thanks a lot for your help. 1192743882 M * micah you are welcome 1192744630 Q * ntrs__ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1192744752 J * tanjix ~tanjix@office.star-hosting.de 1192744755 M * tanjix hello together 1192744787 M * tanjix i am using kernel 2.6.22.9-vs2.3.0.27 and trying to assign an ipv6 address to a vserver 1192744793 M * Bertl wb tanjix! 1192744804 M * tanjix i tried several types in the conf but always get an error starting the guest 1192744813 M * tanjix naddress: vc_net_add(): Invalid argument 1192744817 M * Bertl what util-vserver version do you use? 1192744820 M * tanjix what am i doing wrong? 1192744830 M * tanjix util-vserver: 0.30.213; Jun 11 2007, 17:25:56 1192744837 M * Bertl update to 0.30.214 1192744867 M * tanjix is .213 buggy? ;) 1192744881 M * Bertl well, no, it just doesn't implement ipv6 stuff :) 1192744894 M * tanjix hehe, ok, i*ll update and try again 1192744923 M * tanjix do u know uif there is a .deb package with those tools? 1192744935 M * Bertl yep, in backports 1192744991 M * tanjix hmm but none for amd64 1192745010 M * Bertl micah is investigating this atm 1192745031 M * tanjix so they will be available soon? 1192745037 M * Bertl suggested solution, get the source and rebuild yourself 1192745051 M * Bertl (for the debian package) 1192745072 M * micah interesting why this is coming up again about 15 minutes after it originally came up 1192745081 M * micah when it hasn't come up for the last 3 weeks :) 1192745087 M * Bertl micah: it already came up 3 times yesterday 1192745091 M * micah weird 1192745103 M * Bertl micah: a lot of folks are using amd64 nowadays 1192745108 M * micah anyways the people that run the build network for backports are all sleeping, so I hope I have an answer soon 1192745116 M * Bertl micah: and we _always_ suggest to get 0.30.214 :) 1192745141 M * micah sure yeah, I know that... I'm just surprised that it is just suddenly coming up, when 3 weeks ago presumably the number of people running amd64 was not that much smaller :) 1192745397 M * tanjix ok i compiled 0.30.214 1192745494 M * tanjix so it should work now? 1192745517 M * tanjix how do i tyoe the ipv6 address in the conf? just one address or also a /48 bloc? 1192745524 M * tanjix s/bloc/block 1192745547 M * Bertl prefix goes into a separate file 1192745600 M * tanjix yes in the prefix file... does vserver recognize this ? 1192745606 M * Bertl yep 1192745612 M * tanjix ok i'm trying 1192745773 M * tanjix hmm 1192745778 M * tanjix seems i made an error compiling 1192745787 M * tanjix Can not find a vserver-setup at '/usr/etc/vservers/kea/'. 1192745802 M * tanjix what must i change to get the configs from /etc/guest/... ? 1192745808 M * Bertl did you rebuild the debian package or from sources? 1192745813 M * tanjix from sources 1192745824 M * Bertl well, debian uses different pathes 1192745843 M * tanjix the configs are @ /etc/vservers/guest/... 1192745845 M * Bertl so you probably want to uninstall them, reconfigure with the debian patches and re-install 1192745859 M * Bertl s/patches/pathes/ 1192745914 M * tanjix what configure flag is for the config-path? 1192745956 M * Bertl micah has probably the details for debian, but the debian source should have them too 1192746019 Q * dna Quit: Verlassend 1192746137 M * micah tanjix: why dont you take the backports .214 sources and just build a debian package out of them using the debian packaging tools? 1192746197 M * micah much easier :) 1192746289 M * tanjix micah: hmm i did not find them there? 1192746304 M * tanjix but anyways i got it to work 1192746313 M * tanjix kea:/# ifconfig 1192746313 M * tanjix eth0 Protokoll:Ethernet Hardware Adresse 00:19:DB:BD:F2:3C 1192746313 M * tanjix inet6 Adresse: 2a01:4d0:b::2/48 Gültigkeitsbereich:Global 1192746318 M * tanjix ipv6 seems to work 1192746353 M * Bertl congrats! 1192746364 M * tanjix hm but the server has no connection to internet 1192746381 M * Bertl do you have ipv6 on the host? 1192746385 M * tanjix yes 1192746389 M * tanjix and there it works 1192746392 M * Bertl is the ipv6 address (of the guest) routed? 1192746411 M * tanjix it should, but i will verify 1192746428 M * Bertl try with ping6 from the host 1192746450 M * tanjix ping6 and traceroute6 fail 1192746463 M * tanjix kea:/# ping6 www.ripe.net 1192746463 M * tanjix unknown host 1192746463 M * tanjix kea:/# 1192746535 M * Bertl maybe use 2001:610:240:0:a843::8 1192746544 M * tanjix main104:~/util-vserver-0.30.214# ping6 2a01:4d0:b::2 1192746544 M * tanjix PING 2a01:4d0:b::2(2a01:4d0:b::2) 56 data bytes 1192746544 M * tanjix 64 bytes from 2a01:4d0:b::2: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=0.030 ms 1192746544 M * tanjix 64 bytes from 2a01:4d0:b::2: icmp_seq=2 ttl=64 time=0.016 ms 1192746544 M * tanjix --- 2a01:4d0:b::2 ping statistics --- 1192746545 M * tanjix 2 packets transmitted, 2 received, 0% packet loss, time 999ms 1192746545 M * tanjix rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 0.016/0.023/0.030/0.007 ms 1192746547 M * tanjix main104:~/util-vserver-0.30.214# 1192746549 M * tanjix the host can ping the vservers ip 1192746575 M * Bertl okay, now try with ping6 -I 2a01:4d0:b::2 2001:610:240:0:a843::8 (for example) 1192746605 M * tanjix this fails 1192746617 M * Bertl and if you use the host ip for the -I option? 1192746633 M * tanjix you mean the pv6 address the host has? 1192746641 M * Bertl yep 1192746668 M * tanjix hmpf 1192746674 M * tanjix my mistake 1192746686 M * tanjix i gave the same subnet to the vserver the host already has :( 1192746698 M * Bertl hehe 1192746730 M * tanjix now the host has b::2/48 and the vserver c::2/48 1192746747 M * tanjix vserver still has no "internet" so seems to be a problem anywhere else 1192746764 M * Bertl again, check with the ping6 -I 1192746816 M * tanjix main104:~# ping6 -I 2a01:4d0:b::2 2001:610:240:0:a843::8 1192746816 M * tanjix ping: bind icmp socket: Cannot assign requested address 1192746816 M * tanjix main104:~# 1192746821 M * dowdle How goes the battle today? 1192746855 M * Bertl dowdle: fine ... 1192746868 M * Bertl tanjix: so the ip is not assigned atm? 1192746899 M * dowdle Bertl: Gotten any gifts from adoring fans lately? 1192746941 M * Bertl not that I know of .. but I haven't checked today 1192746958 A * MooingLemur hugs Bertl 1192746963 M * MooingLemur there's my gift. 1192746975 M * Bertl moo moo :) 1192747151 M * tanjix Bertl: it is too late, again made an error when assignng... it seems to work now ;) 1192747164 M * Bertl tanjix: excellent! 1192747174 M * MooingLemur I tried bringing up an ipv6 vserver a few weeks ago 1192747183 M * MooingLemur I did it remotely 1192747191 M * dowdle Bertl: You deserve more gifts. 1192747205 M * MooingLemur and it knocked out ipv4 access to the server 1192747215 M * MooingLemur I don't know why yet. Haven't had time to figure it out. 1192747223 M * dowdle Bertl: I'm mostly broke... but if there is something fairly inexpensive you can recommend that might only be over here in the states... please suggest. 1192747270 M * MooingLemur marshmallow fluff 1192747282 M * MooingLemur that's a uniquely US item 1192747282 M * Bertl dowdle: hmm, I remember I tried to get a bunch of really cheap web cams some time ago 1192747292 M * MooingLemur :P 1192747305 Q * jkl Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1192747319 M * dowdle Bertl: I might can muster up a fancy (but somewhat dated) Axis 210 Network camera. 1192747323 M * Bertl dowdle: the idea was to get enough to do the matrix trick 1192747329 M * dowdle New and still in shrink wrap. 1192747330 M * MooingLemur :D 1192747340 M * dowdle I wonder what the postage would be. 1192747359 M * dowdle Opps... make that Axis 2100 Network Camera 1192747364 M * dowdle Runs embedded Linux of some sort. 1192747369 M * dowdle Has network port. 1192747373 M * Bertl sounds cool 1192747375 M * dowdle No sound though. 1192747422 M * dowdle http://www.axis.com/products/cam_2100/ 1192747470 M * MooingLemur "Here's a video of Bertl breaking out of a vserver" 1192747498 M * dowdle Bertl: Email me your preferred mailing address and I'll see if it doesn't cost a small fortune to mail. 1192747523 M * Bertl dowdle: I fear it will cost a small fortune, but here you go :) 1192747840 M * tanjix Bertl: maybe i found a bug 1192747848 M * Bertl let's hear ... 1192747865 M * tanjix my vserver has v4 and v6 running 1192747874 M * daniel_hozac mine too! :) 1192747879 M * tanjix v6 is interface folder 0 and v4 folder 1 1192747881 M * Bertl \o/ 1192747894 M * tanjix the interface vor ipv4 seems to be set wrong 1192747903 M * tanjix inet Adresse:77.37.13.250 Bcast:0.0.0.0 Maske:255.255.255.255 1192747903 M * tanjix inet6 Adresse: 2a01:4d0:a::4/48 Gültigkeitsbereich:Global 1192747915 M * tanjix the ipv4 address has a wrong broadcast and wrong netmask 1192747927 M * Bertl tanjix: maybe you did sconfigure it wrong? 1192747932 M * Bertl *configure 1192747934 M * sid3windr Mit Gültigkeitsbereich bitte! 1192747944 M * Bertl lol 1192747957 M * tanjix i configured it as i alsways do ;) 1192747961 M * Bertl tanjix: yeah, please use export LC_ALL=C 1192747970 M * daniel_hozac so /32? then that is expected... 1192748025 M * MooingLemur heh, that's a long word for scope 1192748039 M * tanjix inet addr:77.37.13.250 Bcast:0.0.0.0 Mask:255.255.255.255 1192748039 M * tanjix inet6 addr: 2a01:4d0:a::4/48 Scope:Global 1192748043 M * tanjix better now hehe 1192748055 M * Bertl much better, tx 1192748097 M * tanjix well ok /32 is ok, i configured that with /32 1192748102 M * tanjix but what about the broadcast? 1192748156 M * Bertl strictly speaking it should be 77.37.13.250, I think 1192748211 P * dowdle Going home early today. 1192748233 M * Bertl but I guess it is fine to leave it unconfigured in the /32 case, daniel_hozac? 1192748246 M * daniel_hozac the utils leave that up to ip. 1192748275 M * tanjix so 0.0.0.0 is correct in that case? 1192748286 M * daniel_hozac yep... 1192748300 M * tanjix ok then i said nothing about a bug hehe 1192748332 M * Bertl well, it might be a bug, but if, it is a bug in (debians?) ip tool 1192748369 M * Bertl (if I interpreted daniel_hozac correctly) 1192748396 M * tanjix if it is just the output... main thing is that it works... and both works fine... v4 and v6 1192748442 M * daniel_hozac a broadcast address just doesn't make much sense in the /32 case... i think it would be hard to argue that it does, and that it's a bug :) 1192748513 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: if you write the same ip into bcast, will it be set? 1192748541 M * daniel_hozac i think so, it'll avoid ip's automatic calculation at least. 1192748601 M * Bertl tanjix: so you could try that .. for the optics :) 1192749204 M * tanjix Bertl: ok ;) 1192750191 M * daniel_hozac Bertl: http://paste.linux-vserver.org/7003 any idea what might cause it? i'm at a loss... 1192750236 M * daniel_hozac it's 2.6.22.9-vs2.3.0.27, and it has other filesystems mounted with -o tag. 1192750298 M * Bertl hum 1192750342 M * Bertl could it be that it is already mounted in a different namespace? 1192750407 M * daniel_hozac i was thinking that, but entering all of them and executing that grep reveals nothing. 1192750416 M * Bertl try the following: 1192750433 M * daniel_hozac i guess i should expand it and enter all of the guests and grep every single process's /proc//mounts. 1192750434 M * Bertl unmount it on the host? and try with e2fsck :) 1192750456 M * daniel_hozac hmm, good idea. 1192750457 M * Bertl if that complains about already mounted, then you have to search :) 1192750468 M * daniel_hozac yeah. 1192750496 J * jescheng ~jescheng@proxy-sjc-2.cisco.com 1192750502 M * Bertl wb jescheng! 1192750520 M * jescheng hi Bertl! 1192750656 M * daniel_hozac Bertl: is it possible we're leaking a namespace? because none of the currently running processes have that mount... 1192750680 M * Bertl check with /proc/virtual/status 1192750729 M * Bertl would match the amd64 issues brc is seeing 1192750746 M * daniel_hozac hmm? 1192750758 M * daniel_hozac it seems likely... i have 15 mount namespaces, and only 5 uts/IPC. 1192750818 M * daniel_hozac restarting a guest does not make the number increase. 1192750824 M * jescheng when I do 'vserver exec' is there a way to set LD_LIBRARY_PATH just for this command? 1192750838 M * Bertl prefix it? 1192750866 M * Bertl jescheng: or do you mean _inside_? 1192750873 M * jescheng for the command i want to run...like say "vserver exec ls" , for ls 1192750882 M * jescheng yea _inside_ 1192750891 M * Bertl ah, there was some environment option, IIRC 1192750902 M * daniel_hozac the environment is forwarded by default. 1192750918 M * Bertl so that won't help then, I guess 1192750918 M * daniel_hozac it's only for start that the environment is cleaned. 1192750936 M * Bertl jescheng: you could do something like: 1192750938 M * daniel_hozac so LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/path/to/libs vserver ... should work fine. 1192750966 M * Bertl vserver exec bash -c "LD_LIBRARY_PATH=... ls" 1192750993 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: hmm? wouldn't that apply to all vserver stuff too? 1192751007 M * daniel_hozac it would, but the path likely wouldn't exist on the host. 1192751032 M * daniel_hozac so it would be a slight loss of performance, but everything should still work fine... 1192751047 M * Bertl not so easy with e.g. LD_PRELOAD :) 1192751061 M * daniel_hozac right, for that you need bash or env or something inside. 1192751075 M * jescheng Bertl: i see, but if i also need bash to use the LD_LIBRARY_PATH, is there still a way? 1192751115 M * Bertl jescheng: without a static binary, I guess not (except for what daniel_hozac said) 1192751158 Q * tanjix Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1192751171 M * jescheng i see..i'll give his way try. Thanks guys 1192751184 M * Bertl you're welcome! 1192751412 M * daniel_hozac Bertl: i can't seem to get the value to increase, so it seems whereever the leak is, it's not very obvious. 1192751462 M * Bertl k, you tried the shutdown/restart/reboot? 1192751502 M * daniel_hozac yep. 1192751516 M * daniel_hozac enter and exec too. 1192751525 M * Bertl any zombies or helper in vps? 1192751541 M * daniel_hozac no 1192751650 M * daniel_hozac everything appears to be fine, except for this phantom mount. 1192751675 M * Bertl well, maybe something inside the namespace went wrong 1192751693 M * Bertl try to do some link breaking for example 1192751728 M * daniel_hozac on that filesystem? 1192751752 M * Bertl well, anywhere 1192751935 M * daniel_hozac works fine 1192751956 M * Bertl okay, what about ina new namespace? 1192751971 M * daniel_hozac that was in a new namespace :) 1192751977 M * Bertl ah, okay :) 1192751988 M * Bertl so that didn't pin down the space somehow