1192492906 M * bastiaan_ a common trained person can bike 250W for an hour
1192492921 M * bastiaan_ pro bikers 450
1192493039 J * coderanger_ ~coderange@ae-lally-green-46.dynamic2.rpi.edu
1192493040 M * bastiaan_ hmm scrolled back
1192493044 M * bastiaan_ excuse me
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1192495029 Q * coderanger_ Quit: coderanger_
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1192503557 J * PhatJ ~PhatJ@24-231-253-65.dhcp.aldl.mi.charter.com
1192503781 J * FireEgl FireEgl@Sebastian.Atlantica.US
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1192507263 J * eyck_ ~eyck@nat.nowanet.pl
1192507700 J * balbir ~balbir@59.178.43.233
1192509852 M * AStorm bastiaan_: thanks for info :>
1192509863 M * AStorm so a fifth of the power should be quite easy?
1192509908 M * AStorm I should grab some people from our division and work on a portable manual charger :>
1192510247 M * AStorm this could sell :>
1192513219 M * eyck_ hmm, isn't this included in OLTP?
1192513268 M * eyck_ also, such chargers are easily available, I know a guy that bought one because it had a set of interchangable plugs, and he needed few of those plugs 
1192513321 M * eyck_ hand charger - ~2$
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1192520442 J * wam ~wam@p57B55CB6.dip.t-dialin.net
1192520497 M * wam Hi, I can't run util-vserver. I tried a lot. But even when I download the original sourcecode, ./configure it, make it and go to src and call e.g. "vsched", I get a segmentation fault. How could I debug this?
1192520510 M * daniel_hozac don't use Ubuntu.
1192520517 M * daniel_hozac or: get a dietlibc that works.
1192521029 J * gebura ~gebura@173.201.101-84.rev.gaoland.net
1192521053 M * gebura hi
1192521063 M * daniel_hozac hello
1192521430 M * wam now that's it. I kick ubuntu. I thought it would only be a matter of work. But no - this all sucks.
1192521477 M * daniel_hozac well, you can get it to work.
1192521495 M * daniel_hozac it just requires you to maintain dietlibc too, since they won't.
1192521842 M * wam daniel_hozac: and the one in debian stable works?
1192521878 M * daniel_hozac sure.
1192521882 M * wam fine.
1192521908 M * daniel_hozac but as mnemoc said, it's got some bugs that are not relevant for util-vserver.
1192521916 M * sid3windr heh
1192521919 M * sid3windr that's funny
1192521939 M * daniel_hozac what is?
1192521940 M * sid3windr person joins, "i compiled the source and it segfaults", answer: "don't use ubuntu"
1192521950 M * daniel_hozac well, it's the truth :)
1192521958 M * wam daniel_hozac: ok. Someone said, debian has a vserver-enabled kernel. Is the version in stable ok? Do I just apt-get it?
1192521960 M * sid3windr I would expect "WTF HOW DID YOU KNOW I WAS USING UBUNTU" ;)
1192521976 M * wam sid3windr: magic ;)
1192521985 M * daniel_hozac wam: the version in stable is really old, 2.6.18-vs2.0 based...
1192521993 M * wam daniel_hozac: do you recommend testing?
1192522007 M * daniel_hozac i can't really recommend anything as i don't run Debian.
1192522013 M * daniel_hozac but testing has more recent versions.
1192522020 M * daniel_hozac (as does bp.o)
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1192522363 J * baldy_ baldy@brain.servercrew.de
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1192522399 Q * jmcaricand charon.oftc.net kinetic.oftc.net
1192522399 Q * arachnist charon.oftc.net kinetic.oftc.net
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1192522399 Q * ex charon.oftc.net kinetic.oftc.net
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1192522399 Q * matled charon.oftc.net kinetic.oftc.net
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1192522399 Q * grobie charon.oftc.net kinetic.oftc.net
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1192522448 J * jmcaricand ~user@d83-179-172-170.cust.tele2.fr
1192522448 J * Guest1249 ~ensc@www.sigma-chemnitz.de
1192522448 J * nospoonuser ~nospoonus@n18-241.dsl.vianetworks.de
1192522448 J * rorem- ~roremtank@bzq-219-46-202.isdn.bezeqint.net
1192522448 J * ex ex@valis.net.pl
1192522448 J * maddoc maddoc@social.ostruktur.com
1192522448 J * mnemoc ~amery@kilo105.server4you.de
1192522448 J * Guy- ~korn@elan.rulez.org
1192522448 J * matled ~matled@85.131.246.184
1192522448 J * AndrewLee ~andrew@flat.iis.sinica.edu.tw
1192522448 J * opuk ~kupo@c213-100-138-228.swipnet.se
1192522448 J * eviljonny ~eviljonny@loki.eviljonnys.com
1192522448 J * Adrinael adrinael@rid7.kyla.fi
1192522448 J * pusling pusling@88.212.70.38
1192522448 J * sid3windr luser@bastard-operator.from-hell.be
1192522448 J * ard ~ard@gw-tweakb16.kwaak.net
1192522448 J * grobie ~grobie@master.schnuckelig.eu
1192522448 Q * rorem- Max SendQ exceeded
1192523203 J * JonB ~NoSuchUse@0x5739c8b4.roennqu1.broadband.tele.dk
1192523212 Q * balbir Read error: Operation timed out
1192523280 J * rorem- ~roremtank@bzq-219-46-202.isdn.bezeqint.net
1192523744 J * julius_ ~julius@p57B24FE1.dip.t-dialin.net
1192523757 Q * Julius Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1192523766 N * julius_ Julius
1192524074 J * balbir ~balbir@59.178.33.83
1192524512 Q * JonB Quit: This computer has gone to sleep
1192525602 J * JonB ~NoSuchUse@0x5739c8b4.roennqu1.broadband.tele.dk
1192526015 M * wam why is VSERVER_REMAP_SADDR not enabled by default?
1192526029 M * daniel_hozac because it's a change from the previous default.
1192526042 M * daniel_hozac we're not fond of breaking people's existing setups for no real gain.
1192526050 M * wam ok
1192526050 M * daniel_hozac at least not for a stable release.
1192526069 M * wam I guess it right? This is like I can use "localhost" in the vserver and this is automagically mapped to the first ip?
1192526092 M * daniel_hozac that has _always_ been done.
1192526103 M * daniel_hozac CONFIG_VSERVER_REMAP_SADDR just maps the _source_ address too.
1192526105 M * wam ah, this is about the outgoing ip?
1192526106 Q * balbir Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1192526109 M * wam ok, thanks.
1192526116 M * daniel_hozac whereas the destination address has always been rewritten.
1192526903 J * balbir ~balbir@59.178.43.116
1192527202 M * wam is it possible that util-vserver found my dietlibc installation in /opt/diet when I just called configure w/o any parameters?
1192527219 M * daniel_hozac unlikely.
1192527230 M * wam hmm - it compiled and it can be called.
1192527232 M * daniel_hozac unless that's in your PATH.
1192527235 M * wam no
1192527238 M * daniel_hozac is it built with dietlibc?
1192527250 M * wam I hope so :/ Does it compile with glibc too?
1192527254 M * daniel_hozac yes.
1192527256 M * wam damn
1192527257 M * daniel_hozac run vserver-info
1192527266 M * wam I can't - have to wait for my kernel :)
1192527276 M * wam ah
1192527277 M * wam no
1192527284 M * wam yep - glibc.
1192527288 M * wam silly me
1192527313 M * daniel_hozac so, ./configure ... DIET=/opt/diet/diet
1192527348 M * daniel_hozac (i.e. the path to the diet binary)
1192527364 M * wam daniel_hozac: ah, nice ;)
1192527401 M * wam that's how I'll do it on ubuntu. I had debian installed - but it even didn't boot by default on my hardware. So I kicked it again...
1192527418 M * bzed wam: you could just install the dietlibc-dev package
1192527425 M * wam bzed: no, that's broken
1192527440 M * bzed get it from testing or unstable then
1192527462 M * wam bzed: all is running good now. I just install anything vserver-dependant to /opt. That's ok for the server machine...
1192527468 M * bzed the right deb-src line into /etc/apt/sources.list, apt-get -b source dietlibc or so
1192527817 J * lilalinux ~plasma@dslb-084-058-201-217.pools.arcor-ip.net
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1192529738 J * JonB ~NoSuchUse@0x5739c8b4.roennqu1.broadband.tele.dk
1192529752 Q * JonB 
1192530118 J * besonen_mobile ~besonen_m@71-220-227-56.eugn.qwest.net
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1192530335 Q * eyck_ Read error: Connection reset by peer
1192530358 J * eyck_ ~eyck@nat.nowanet.pl
1192530515 Q * ntrs_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1192530838 J * BenG ~ben@82-45-23-100.cable.ubr03.azte.blueyonder.co.uk
1192530876 J * JonB ~NoSuchUse@0x5739c8b4.roennqu1.broadband.tele.dk
1192531706 Q * gebura Remote host closed the connection
1192531918 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl
1192531923 M * Bertl morning folks!
1192532020 M * wam hi Bertl 
1192532106 Q * JonB Quit: This computer has gone to sleep
1192532240 Q * balbir Read error: Operation timed out
1192533619 M * eyck_ hello
1192533820 M * BenG hey there, afternoon all, is there a place on the wiki where adding an IP to live guest is documented?
1192533844 M * BenG I just wrote this up for a server I admin and wondered if it would be useful for the FAQs
1192533867 M * BenG as it's been frequently asked of me by some of our devs
1192533939 M * Bertl not sure, but it's quite simple
1192534117 M * BenG it is thankfully, but not documented anywhere!
1192534122 M * BenG SFAIK
1192534163 M * Bertl then please add it somewhere appropriate
1192534170 M * BenG FAQ?
1192534280 P * friendly12345 
1192534417 M * Bertl yeah, why not
1192534624 M * BenG cool, in progress
1192535022 M * BenG done, cheers
1192535024 M * BenG HTH
1192535026 P * BenG 
1192536281 J * gebura ~gebura@173.201.101-84.rev.gaoland.net
1192536449 J * JonB ~NoSuchUse@0x5739c8b4.roennqu1.broadband.tele.dk
1192536568 J * pmenier ~pmenier@LNeuilly-152-22-72-5.w193-251.abo.wanadoo.fr
1192536622 M * baggins Bertl: can you take a look at http://paste.linux-vserver.org/6982 ?
1192536748 M * igraltist how you do from this a shnapshot?
1192536762 M * igraltist it is from booting time or#?
1192536793 M * daniel_hozac addr2line
1192536825 M * baggins ipv4_rcv_saddr_equal
1192536825 M * baggins /home/staff/lab/baggins/kernel/linux-2.6.22.9/net/ipv4/inet_connection_sock.c:42
1192536854 M * daniel_hozac 2.3.0.27?
1192536860 M * baggins the infamous ipv6_only_sock
1192536868 M * baggins 2.3.0.26.4
1192536930 M * baggins should I switch to .27?
1192536934 M * daniel_hozac why is (sk)->sk_family == PF_INET6, but there's no IPv6 socket struct?
1192536942 M * daniel_hozac well, yes.
1192536991 M * baggins could that be cause by buggy soft?
1192537064 M * daniel_hozac is rpc.qutoad run on the host?
1192537067 M * daniel_hozac +spelling
1192537119 M * baggins yes, I was upgrading soft on host and it happen either during stop of the old daemon or start of the new one
1192537132 M * daniel_hozac could you give us an asm-dump of ipv4_rcv_saddr_equal?
1192537213 M * baggins http://students.mimuw.edu.pl/~baggins/inet_connection_sock.s
1192537454 Q * JonB Quit: This computer has gone to sleep
1192537505 M * daniel_hozac where does all that C code come from?
1192537536 M * baggins kernel compiled with -g, objdump -d -S inet_connection_sock.o
1192537960 J * Yvo yvonne@vpn076.rz.uni-mannheim.de
1192538050 M * daniel_hozac just curious, what does grep ipv6_only_sock include/linux/ipv6.h give you?
1192538073 Q * bastiaan_ Quit: irssi opnieuw africhten
1192538083 J * ema ~ema@rtfm.galliera.it
1192538128 M * daniel_hozac ah, there it is...
1192538152 P * Yvo 
1192538172 Q * bastiaan Quit: irssi opnieuw inrichten
1192538378 M * daniel_hozac wait, what does grep CONFIG_IPV6 .config return?
1192538506 M * daniel_hozac no, that can't be it...
1192538586 M * daniel_hozac is it reproducible, or does it just happen randomly?
1192538655 M * baggins looks random, i.e. I don't know how to reproduce it
1192538682 J * hparker ~hparker@linux.homershut.net
1192538683 M * baggins CONFIG_IPV6=y
1192538725 M * daniel_hozac could you try replacing it with inet_v6_ipv6only?
1192538796 M * baggins the problem is that this happens only on one server and I can't reboot it anytime I want :(
1192538848 M * daniel_hozac well, at worst it doesn't change anything, at best it fixes the problem.
1192538943 M * baggins OK, I prepare a kernel with inet_v6_ipv6only and reboot it as soon as possible and we'll see
1192538966 M * baggins maybe I'll try to reboot it by triggering this oops ;)
1192539058 M * daniel_hozac if it's the problem i think it is, closing an IPv6 socket and then trying to bind an IPv4 socket should trigger it...
1192539160 M * baggins so, a simple open ; bind ; close ; bind should trigger it?
1192539261 M * baggins I write simple stress test and see if it's that
1192539417 A * baggins lunch
1192539529 M * daniel_hozac well, the first needs to become a TIME_WAIT socket.
1192539619 Q * Aiken Quit: Leaving
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1192540290 Q * daniel_hozac Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1192540490 J * lilalinux_ ~plasma@dslb-084-058-251-099.pools.arcor-ip.net
1192540669 Q * pmenier Read error: Connection reset by peer
1192540688 J * daniel_hozac ~daniel@c-051472d5.08-230-73746f22.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se
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1192541925 J * lilalinux ~plasma@dslb-084-058-251-099.pools.arcor-ip.net
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1192542047 J * dowdle ~dowdle@scott.coe.montana.edu
1192542049 Q * larsivi Quit: Konversation terminated!
1192542806 N * BobR_afk BobR
1192543694 Q * FireEgl Read error: Connection reset by peer
1192544046 P * dowdle Gone to a computer security conference
1192544060 J * dowdle ~dowdle@scott.coe.montana.edu
1192544108 N * BobR BobR_afk
1192544281 J * JonB ~NoSuchUse@0x5739c8b4.roennqu1.broadband.tele.dk
1192544460 J * FireEgl FireEgl@4.0.0.0.1.0.0.0.c.d.4.8.0.c.5.0.1.0.0.2.ip6.arpa
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1192545348 J * esa bip@62.123.67.224
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1192545480 N * esa` eSa|
1192545786 J * southtel ~southtel@68-114-23-151.dhcp.gwnt.ga.charter.com
1192545817 M * southtel I've looked on the site and didn't see anything...
1192545837 Q * esa Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1192545840 M * southtel Is the "localhost" issue one that will be fixed?
1192545868 M * southtel Or has it been determined that it's not possible/not feasible/not "correct" to do so?
1192546012 M * Bertl southtel: hmm?
1192546040 M * Bertl what's the problem you are seeing?
1192546308 N * BobR_afk BobR
1192547269 N * BobR BobR_afk
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1192547966 J * JonB ~NoSuchUse@0x5739c8b4.roennqu1.broadband.tele.dk
1192549030 Q * ema Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1192549370 M * southtel Bertl: sorry for the delay...
1192549396 M * southtel Bertl:  The issue we have is with not being able to make a "dummy" 127.0.0.1 address on all vserver guests.
1192549439 M * Bertl first, this is available in the devel branch, second, you do not need that, except for broken apps
1192549450 M * Bertl usually you point 'localhost' to the guest ip
1192549455 M * southtel We can, of course, tweak the code on the few programs that hard-code that ip, but it just seems like making a true lo device would be a handy addition to the vserver
1192549541 M * Bertl making a 'virtual' lo device is neither handy nor performant
1192549549 M * southtel Right, that's actually what we've done for the one (admittedly broken) app that we didn't want to bother with fixing...
1192549553 M * Bertl hardcoding 127.0.0.1 into apps is considered a bug
1192549560 M * southtel Agreed.
1192549581 M * Bertl and as I said, the devel version gives you the illusion of per guest 127.0.0.1 on lo
1192549601 M * JonB Bertl: but cant outsiders access the guest ip?
1192549602 M * southtel But, it does happen, and sometimes we can't go in and fix that bug (if it's proprietary software), which limits our vguest options (for multiple instances, that is)
1192549622 M * Bertl JonB: outsiders as the host admin, yes
1192549644 M * Bertl southtel: that is why we added this to the devel branch :)
1192549645 M * JonB Bertl: i'm not sure
1192549670 M * JonB Bertl: lets take mysql. even if i tell it to bind to 127.0.0.1 it binds to 192.168.x.y
1192549678 Q * lilalinux Remote host closed the connection
1192549680 M * JonB Bertl: making it network accessible
1192549698 M * southtel Bertl: Thanks...it's not a huge issue with us...most of our vguests just have a 192.168 "localhost", and they work fine, but with one system in particular, that doesn't work.
1192549725 M * Bertl southtel: once again, the devel branch gives you what you want :)
1192549731 M * southtel Cool, thanks!
1192549756 M * Bertl JonB: only if you allow connections from IPs other than 192.168.x.y
1192549772 M * Bertl JonB: or without remapping (127.0.0.1)
1192549789 J * ema ~ema@rtfm.galliera.it
1192549792 M * JonB Bertl: well, there is a webservice the same host has to run
1192549799 J * julius_ ~julius@p57B2746E.dip.t-dialin.net
1192549801 M * JonB Bertl: i did not tell it to remap 127.0.0.1
1192549818 M * JonB Bertl: and i seem to remember that my first vservers did have a 127.0.0.1 lo interface
1192549955 Q * gebura Quit: Quitte
1192550135 Q * wam Quit: Verlassend
1192550153 J * deevilcat ~eodabas@85.97.128.179
1192550157 M * deevilcat hi all
1192550171 M * JonB hi
1192550182 M * Bertl welcome deevilcat!
1192550190 M * deevilcat hi bertl
1192550195 M * deevilcat , jonb
1192550240 Q * Julius Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1192550281 M * JonB Bertl: did oooooooooold vserver gusts also do this strange thing about 127.0.0.1 ?
1192550319 M * deevilcat after dist-upgrading a vserver from debian etch to lenny, kernel log daemon refuses to start, anyone have any ideas?
1192550362 M * JonB deevilcat: guest or root/host?
1192550367 M * deevilcat guest
1192550387 M * JonB deevilcat: why does a guest need kernel log daemon?
1192550450 M * deevilcat jonb: yeah, why... got it.. i need some sleep
1192550458 M * Bertl deevilcat: you have two options there
1192550473 M * Bertl deevilcat: a) disable the klog part of syslog (better)
1192550486 M * Bertl deevilcat: b) enable the syslog virtualization (easier)
1192550623 Q * southtel Quit: using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.12
1192550647 M * deevilcat Bertl: yes i'll go with option a, it shouldn't enabled at first place
1192550772 M * deevilcat JonB: Bertl: thanks 
1192550790 M * Bertl you're welcome!
1192550837 M * JonB Bertl: i do not understand this 127.0.0.1 business. Is there a wikipage that explains the pro and con?
1192550852 M * daniel_hozac of what?
1192550881 M * JonB daniel_hozac: all that fiddling with 127.0.0.1
1192550909 M * JonB i seem to remember that my first tries some years ago did indeed have a 127.0.0.1 bound to localhost
1192550950 M * daniel_hozac i don't understand what that means.
1192550981 M * JonB daniel_hozac: today i have no 127.0.0.1 or lo in my vserver guests
1192550988 M * Bertl folks did do all kind of strange things, with even stranger explanations how their solution works regarding 127.0.0.1 in guests
1192551005 M * daniel_hozac JonB: so, run 2.3 if you really need it.
1192551012 M * JonB daniel_hozac: i will eventually
1192551021 M * daniel_hozac not that i see why it would ever _be_ needed...
1192551028 M * JonB daniel_hozac: i just think i remember that version 1.x did not have this problem
1192551060 M * JonB daniel_hozac: well, i have a mysql that i dont want network access to except for some php scripts running inside the same vserver guest
1192551078 M * daniel_hozac so, give the guest a private address.
1192551090 M * JonB daniel_hozac: it already has one private address
1192551115 M * JonB daniel_hozac: and one eth0 device. How many do i need
1192551130 M * daniel_hozac so i don't see the problem?
1192551146 M * JonB daniel_hozac: everyone on the same network can access my mysql, which i dont like
1192551155 M * Bertl iptables?
1192551172 M * JonB Bertl: thats one solution
1192551174 M * daniel_hozac so give it a _really_ private address?
1192551178 M * daniel_hozac with scope host.
1192551182 A * hparker just has mysql use a socket
1192551190 M * daniel_hozac it's really not a hard problem to solve.
1192551201 M * JonB hparker: the php scripts can not use a socket
1192551214 M * hparker PHP can use a socket
1192551217 M * JonB daniel_hozac: no, but i prefer solving it exactly like a real host would
1192551231 J * alex__ ~joe@62-249-237-101.no-dns-yet.enta.net
1192551234 M * alex__ hellow
1192551239 M * JonB hparker: no wait, it was a java app
1192551247 M * Bertl welcome alex__!
1192551255 M * alex__ just to confirm vserver is just like xen / openvz etc yes?
1192551261 M * JonB daniel_hozac: a real host would have a 127.0.0.1 and lo interface
1192551269 M * hparker Oh, I can barely spell java... Damn sure not smart enough to use it
1192551272 M * JonB alex__: it's the same, but different
1192551273 M * Bertl alex__: well, that is a broad range you are comparing to
1192551276 M * JonB hparker: i didnt code it
1192551276 M * hparker s/smart/crazy ;)
1192551277 M * alex__ ya :)
1192551289 M * JonB hparker: i just have to admin it, and secure it
1192551291 M * alex__ im looking for mainly -> 1) debian support :) and 2) a webfrontend control panel :)
1192551299 M * Bertl alex__: it does very similar things, but it is actually completely different
1192551336 M * alex__ is there any web frontend contorl panels around?
1192551416 M * JonB alex__: yes
1192551423 M * alex__ cool :)
1192551427 M * JonB alex__: http://linux-vserver.org/Downloads
1192551435 M * JonB alex__: vserver control daemon
1192551447 M * alex__ so in a nutshell, vserver should be able to suit my needs of virtualisation ?
1192551463 M * Bertl isolation, but yes :)
1192551492 M * Bertl that is one of the differences comapred to e.g. Xen
1192551531 M * JonB alex__: well... you have to run the same kernel om all guests
1192551542 M * JonB alex__: you can run different linux distributions
1192551547 M * alex__ ah ok
1192551556 M * alex__ can vserver allocate cpu % and / or memory to certian guests?
1192551575 M * Bertl yep, see http://linux-vserver.org/Resource_Limits
1192551584 M * alex__ awesome
1192551604 M * Bertl and http://linux-vserver.org/CPU_Scheduler
1192551605 M * alex__ im going to setup a test box now :)
1192551706 M * alex__ cool, anyone use this with debian?
1192551712 M * JonB daniel_hozac: did i loose you somewhere in my argumentation?
1192551735 M * Bertl alex__: if you go for debian, consider two things:
1192551749 M * sid3windr a) debian rocks
1192551752 M * sid3windr b) ...:
1192551752 M * sid3windr :>
1192551756 M * Bertl alex__: a) avoid the debian vserver tools
1192551773 M * Bertl alex__: b) get util-vserver (and maybe kernels) from backports
1192551806 M * alex__ ok
1192551812 M * deevilcat alex__: c) compile your own kernel for debian
1192551828 M * Bertl it's an option, but there should be usable kenels around
1192551840 M * alex__ c) i dont have that luxury cause i have a server hosted in another country ><
1192551851 M * sid3windr how is that related? :P
1192551852 M * alex__ but i have dev boxes next to me
1192551867 M * alex__ cause i dont wanna have to call the techs and ask em to pick the other kernel if it fails :)
1192551892 M * deevilcat alex__: you may have to if you have more than 4gb of ram
1192551994 Q * yang Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1192551996 M * Bertl deevilcat: if you have more than 4GB of ram, you should consider using a 64bit kernel :)
1192552053 M * alex__ only 2gb
1192552317 M * alex__ okay ill install kernels and stuff from backports
1192552344 M * alex__ does anyone use the vserver control daemon?
1192552454 M * sid3windr alex__: you can set up lilo/grub to try a new one once, set the kernel to reboot on panic, etc ;)
1192552476 M * sid3windr but yeah, I hear you, I'm not into faraway remote kernel upgrades too much either ;)
1192552516 M * alex__ sid3windr, oo never knew you could do that.... any tips / guides?
1192552524 Q * matti Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1192552572 M * sid3windr if you add panic=30 to your kernel commandline it will reboot 30 sec after a panic
1192552586 M * sid3windr if you run lilo, set a working kernel as default= then run lilo -B <newkernel>
1192552591 M * sid3windr it'll boot the new kernel exactly once
1192552601 M * sid3windr if after 30 sec thanks to panic= it fails, it'll reboot and lilo will boot your default kernel
1192552606 M * sid3windr (at least I think it was -B ...)
1192552611 M * sid3windr grub has something similar afaik but I never used it
1192552626 M * alex__ ahhh coolies
1192552630 M * alex__ ill check it out
1192552643 M * alex__ im using grubby
1192552662 M * alex__ ill check it out when the time comes
1192552677 J * matti matti@acrux.romke.net
1192552679 M * alex__ gotta figure out a good virtualisation software with a primo control daemon
1192552679 A * sid3windr has remote serial console and remote powerswitch
1192552687 A * alex__ doesnt :(
1192552694 M * alex__ and i have to pay for it
1192552708 M * JonB sid3windr: i have a remote KVM using VNC
1192552708 M * sid3windr so do I ;)
1192552731 M * sid3windr remote kvm is good for windows :p
1192552742 M * JonB sid3windr: or when you need the bios
1192552747 M * sid3windr well, no
1192552752 M * JonB sid3windr: wwell i do
1192552754 M * sid3windr I have serverboards in my servers :p
1192552777 M * JonB sid3windr: thats cheating
1192552778 M * sid3windr I can access the bios fine through the serial console
1192552783 M * sid3windr is it? =)
1192552790 M * JonB sid3windr: yeah
1192552828 M * alex__ hrm how do i do a apt-get cache search just on backports?
1192552833 M * JonB sid3windr:
1192552842 M * JonB alex__: put it in the sourceslist?
1192552844 M * sid3windr okay, then I admit I'm cheating ;)
1192552851 M * JonB sid3windr: it's okay
1192552913 M * alex__ its ok, i just hashed out the others :)
1192552919 M * JonB does anyone have screenshots of VCD?
1192552958 M * sid3windr d sounds like daemon
1192552963 M * sid3windr so screenshots are... ? :p
1192552987 M * JonB http://linux-vserver.org/Downloads#VServer_Control_Daemon
1192552997 M * JonB sid3windr: isnt that a web thing to controll it?
1192553019 M * JonB sid3windr: and even if not, there has to be a console client anyway
1192553324 M * alex__ hmmmm
1192553346 M * alex__ when i boot the vserver kernel it just sits on "Begin: Waiting for root file system...."
1192553355 J * Yvo yvonne@vpn-9-055.rz.uni-mannheim.de
1192553385 M * Bertl wb Yvo!
1192553394 Q * dna Quit: Verlassend
1192553399 M * JonB alex__: thats not a vserver problem
1192553405 M * alex__ ya ...
1192553420 M * Bertl sounds more like udev
1192553445 M * alex__ linux-image-2.6.22-2-vserver-686 - Linux 2.6.22 image on PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/P4
1192553448 M * alex__ this is what i got :)
1192553504 M * alex__ hmm
1192553508 M * alex__ ill; try another :)
1192553519 P * Yvo 
1192553637 M * alex__ hmm ok it liked 2.8.15
1192553656 M * alex__ 2.6.18*
1192553665 M * JonB alex__: why not get 2.6.22?
1192553709 M * alex__ it got stuck on "Begin: Waiting for root file system...."
1192553717 M * alex__ hmm and now 2.6.18 doesnt like my network card
1192553721 M * alex__ ><
1192553737 M * JonB alex__: do you use a initrd?
1192553813 M * alex__ im gonna backtrack and see why 2.6.22 isnt working
1192553827 M * alex__ JonB, not sure, left it up too apt-get heh 
1192553837 M * alex__ ill double check stuff now
1192553858 Q * pmenier Quit: pmenier
1192553871 M * JonB alex__: where are your root filesystem?
1192553880 M * alex__ ?
1192553889 M * JonB alex__: where is your /
1192553890 M * alex__  / ?
1192553901 M * alex__  /dev/sda1
1192553914 M * JonB alex__: grub or lilo ?
1192553919 M * alex__ grub
1192553927 M * brc bertl
1192553930 Q * Linus Remote host closed the connection
1192553932 M * brc i am getting this when trying to start a vserver:
1192553932 M * brc vcontext: vc_create_context(): Cannot allocate memory
1192553935 M * JonB alex__: what controller is sda ?
1192553966 M * alex__ JonB, can i see it easy via /proc/something?
1192553969 M * JonB alex__: some promise?
1192553984 M * JonB alex__: i'm not sure, i dont know proc that well
1192554013 M * alex__ hdc
1192554017 M * alex__ hmm
1192554020 M * JonB hdc?
1192554036 M * alex__ nvm
1192554042 M * alex__ its a intel controller
1192554056 M * JonB alex__: okay
1192554073 M * JonB alex__: how is it physically connected?
1192554077 M * JonB alex__: sata or pata?
1192554079 M * alex__ sata
1192554118 M * JonB is the intel driver compiled into your kernel? or a module?
1192554120 M * Bertl alex__: maybe the root device changed from hda to sda because of the kernel change?
1192554129 M * daniel_hozac brc: old utils?
1192554132 M * Bertl alex__: or the other way round
1192554139 M * daniel_hozac brc: compiled how? on what kernel?
1192554149 M * brc lemme check version
1192554154 M * JonB alex__: if it is module, your initrd needs to load it
1192554155 M * brc 2.6.22.9-vs2.2.0.4 
1192554168 M * brc util-vserver-0.30.212
1192554192 M * alex__ JonB, im in not sure if the apt-get installer is doing the initrd, im pretty sure it is
1192554214 M * JonB alex__: i seem to remember that most debian kernels use initrd
1192554227 M * JonB alex__: why dont you create your own kernel?
1192554304 M * alex__ im thinking of doing that now
1192554327 M * alex__ http://pastebin.com/m1d145545
1192554334 M * alex__ thats whats happening when i compile
1192554339 M * alex__ through apt-get
1192554378 M * JonB alex__: apt-get install kernel-package
1192554413 M * daniel_hozac brc: and you're not running out of memory and you're not running an inordinate amount of guests?
1192554427 M * brc I am running what i usually run on other machines
1192554430 M * brc not running out of mem
1192554435 M * alex__ JonB, ahhh thanks
1192554439 M * JonB alex__: wget 2.6.22.9 and vs2.2.0.4 from http://linux-vserver.org/Downloads
1192554449 M * alex__ JonB, ok
1192554449 M * JonB alex__: unpack
1192554463 M * JonB alex__: patch with --dry-run and if no errors, patch without
1192554470 M * Bertl brc: could you upload /proc/meminfo to paste.linux-vserver.org please?
1192554471 M * JonB alex__: make menuconfig
1192554501 M * JonB alex__: after that
1192554512 M * JonB alex__: make-kpkg --initrd kernel-image
1192554517 M * JonB dinner time, bbl
1192554520 Q * JonB Quit: This computer has gone to sleep
1192554588 M * brc one sec
1192554716 M * brc weird. upgraded utils
1192554771 M * brc stoped another vserver, started this one and now it works
1192554787 M * daniel_hozac and can you start the other guest?
1192554794 M * alex__ another question to anyone : would getting  2.6.22.9 and vs2.2.0.4 work happily on a k7 server?
1192554807 M * brc Hmm.. Now i cant start the other one
1192554821 M * daniel_hozac brc: ls -l /proc/virtual | wc -l
1192554822 M * brc lemme upload meminfo
1192554827 M * daniel_hozac alex__: sure-
1192554857 M * brc http://paste.linux-vserver.org/6984
1192554914 M * daniel_hozac brc: x86_64?
1192554990 Q * ema Quit: leaving
1192554997 M * brc yes
1192555022 M * daniel_hozac result of the wc command?
1192555094 M * brc wc?
1192555101 M * daniel_hozac 19:13 < daniel_hozac> brc: ls -l /proc/virtual | wc -l
1192555136 M * alex__ gaah!!! -> getting this issue now while doing the make menuconfig ->
1192555136 M * alex__ http://pastebin.com/m4aa5bb01
1192555154 M * brc daniel_hozac: sorry i need sleep :)
1192555162 M * brc 48
1192555178 M * Bertl brc: what kernel/patch is this?
1192555191 M * daniel_hozac alex__: install your distribution's ncurses development package, commonly called something like ncurses-devel or ncurses-dev.
1192555216 M * alex__ daniel_hozac, thanks! 
1192555239 M * alex__ cheers that worked! :D
1192555254 M * brc 2.6.22.9-vs2.2.0.4 #1 SMP Mon Oct 1 16:22:30 BRT 2007 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
1192555263 M * alex__ /boot/config-2.6.8-2-386:13:warning: trying to assign nonexistent symbol CLEAN_COMPILE
1192555263 M * alex__ /boot/config-2.6.8-2-386:48:warning: trying to assign nonexistent symbol OBSOLETE_MODPARM
1192555270 M * alex__ hmm i get alot of these ... ignore?
1192555272 M * brc util-vserver-0.30.214
1192555285 M * daniel_hozac alex__: you'll probably want to start off with the 2.6.22 config...
1192555307 J * besonen_mobile_ ~besonen_m@71-220-227-56.eugn.qwest.net
1192555316 M * Bertl brc: very interesting ... any messages in dmesg?
1192555348 M * alex__ daniel_hozac, so get 2.6.22 up and going first, then patch in vs2.2.04 then recompile that?
1192555365 M * daniel_hozac alex__: that's one way to do it...
1192555380 M * brc Bertl: No messages diferent from usual
1192555397 M * alex__ daniel_hozac, is that the way your talking about ? =)
1192555402 M * brc excpect that i had /dev/sdc warning which was removed and then re-added
1192555412 M * brc bsides that everything seems to be fine
1192555439 M * alex__ i gtg, talk later on
1192555599 M * daniel_hozac Bertl: per-CPU problems?
1192555614 M * daniel_hozac it seems like the only viable error-path to me.
1192555614 Q * deevilcat Quit: Leaving.
1192555620 Q * besonen_mobile Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1192555729 M * daniel_hozac brc: what is CONFIG_VSERVER_CONTEXTS set to?
1192555912 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: yes, sounds like it, but didn't we fix that some time ago?
1192555938 M * daniel_hozac yeah, i certainly think it looks that way.
1192555963 M * daniel_hozac brc: so this is just a vanilla 2.6.22.9-vs2.2.0.4 kernel?
1192555973 M * brc where do i find CONFIG_VSERVER_CONTEXTS ?
1192555987 M * daniel_hozac in .config, if CONFIG_EMBEDDED.
1192555990 M * brc daniel_hozac: Just the kernel + vs patch
1192555994 M * brc hold
1192556034 M * brc # CONFIG_EMBEDDED is not set
1192556062 M * daniel_hozac Bertl: that should mean it's 768, right?
1192556072 M * Bertl yes, at least in theory
1192556154 M * daniel_hozac brc: grep CONFIG_VSERVER_CONTEXTS include/linux/autoconf.h
1192556177 M * brc hold
1192556192 M * brc #define CONFIG_VSERVER_CONTEXTS 768
1192556206 J * JonB ~NoSuchUse@0x5739c8b4.roennqu1.broadband.tele.dk
1192556223 M * Bertl should be more then enough then
1192556229 M * daniel_hozac indeed...
1192556230 M * Bertl *than
1192556237 M * JonB alex__: did you get it working?
1192556258 M * daniel_hozac brc: cat /proc/virtual/status
1192556276 M * brc #CTotal:        45
1192556276 M * brc #CActive:       45
1192556276 M * brc #NSProxy:       90      1511 45 45 45
1192556305 J * esa ~esa@ip-87-238-2-45.adsl.cheapnet.it
1192556317 Q * eSa| Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1192556322 M * daniel_hozac so either kmalloc is failing for some unknown reason, or something else is eating up per-CPU space like crazy.
1192556329 M * Bertl out of curiosity, let's check /proc/virtnet/status please
1192556364 M * brc #CTotal:        45
1192556364 M * brc #CActive:       45
1192556384 M * brc btw, this server has been up just for 4 days
1192556385 M * Bertl so that is all fine then, still, your limit seems to be around 45
1192556399 M * brc Hmm which limit is that ?
1192556416 M * Bertl the per CPU space (so we assume)
1192556442 M * daniel_hozac brc: you don't have the IPv6 patch, right?
1192556473 M * daniel_hozac not that the network contexts should allocate anything that is per-CPU...
1192556653 M * brc The only patch i applied was the vserver patch
1192556684 M * daniel_hozac is your configuration specific to your machine?
1192556721 M * brc Not much, just the x86_64 i belive. I based the config on the one provided by CentOS
1192556738 M * daniel_hozac so it's a very generic, module-based config?
1192556747 M * daniel_hozac could we get the lsmod output?
1192556777 M * daniel_hozac i guess the whole config might be useful...
1192556976 M * brc sure
1192557015 M * brc module: http://paste.linux-vserver.org/6986
1192557043 M * brc config is to big to paste
1192557044 M * brc hehe
1192557137 M * brc btw i have software raid on this server.
1192557142 M * brc raid5 and raid1
1192557155 M * brc don't know if that is rlevant
1192557191 M * daniel_hozac XFS?
1192557373 M * daniel_hozac i don't really see any obvious offenders...
1192557421 M * daniel_hozac do you have CONFIG_VSERVER_DEBUG enabled?
1192557629 M * brc dont think so lemme check
1192557643 M * brc # CONFIG_VSERVER_DEBUG is not set
1192557733 J * sharkjaw ~gab@216-161-9.0503.adsl.tele2.no
1192558243 Q * JonB Quit: This computer has gone to sleep
1192558404 J * coderanger_ ~coderange@m2-f1-29.dynamic2.rpi.edu
1192558457 M * julius_ is traffic vserver -> host through public ip's passing the usual iptables chains (input, output)
1192558514 M * AStorm julius_: it is
1192558527 M * julius_ good
1192558537 M * AStorm the addresses are like aliases
1192558593 M * julius_ http://phpfi.com/269381
1192558609 M * julius_ the hostnames are defined in /etc/hosts
1192558619 M * julius_ so everything should work ok
1192558621 M * AStorm source address should be correct
1192558735 M * AStorm I did a similar setup some time ago on a server
1192558741 M * AStorm worked with both Xen and VServer
1192558762 J * Piet ~piet@tor.noreply.org
1192558763 J * ntrs__ ~ntrs@79.125.251.2
1192559074 J * JonB ~NoSuchUse@0x5739c8b4.roennqu1.broadband.tele.dk
1192559200 Q * ntrs_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1192560057 J * ntrs_ ~ntrs@79.125.251.2
1192560072 Q * ntrs__ Read error: Connection reset by peer
1192560173 M * brc Daniel, sorry for taking to long i am kinda busy here at work. : http://201.33.19.124/config-2.6.20.4-vs2.2.0-rc21
1192560520 Q * JonB Quit: This computer has gone to sleep
1192560556 Q * jmcaricand Quit: ERC Version 5.0.2 $Revision: 1.726.2.11 $ (IRC client for Emacs)
1192560604 M * daniel_hozac brc: uh, that's your 2.6.22.9-vs2.2.0.4 config?
1192561358 Q * sharkjaw Remote host closed the connection
1192561717 J * toidinamai ~frank@n15-60.dsl.vianetworks.de
1192561719 M * toidinamai Hi.
1192561727 M * daniel_hozac hello
1192561755 M * toidinamai Does linux-vserver support IPv6?  Or do I still need a third-party patch?
1192561765 M * daniel_hozac 2.3 has integrated IPv6.
1192561867 M * toidinamai That's good to hear.
1192561898 M * toidinamai But I want grsec, too.  So I guess I'll just have to wait until 2.3 is declared stable.
1192561926 M * daniel_hozac 2.3 is devel, it'll never be declared stable.
1192561935 M * toidinamai Until 2.4 is out.
1192561945 M * daniel_hozac then it's not 2.3 :)
1192561951 M * toidinamai Whatever. :-)
1192561979 M * daniel_hozac i guess you'll be waiting for quite some time then...
1192562111 M * toidinamai Hm.  Why is that?
1192562190 M * daniel_hozac because 2.3 is just a couple of months old?
1192562258 M * toidinamai Ok.  Too bad.  Maybe harry will provide patches against 2.3 then.
1192562320 M * fb toidinamai: this may not happen too soon
1192562339 M * fb toidinamai: but you can always grab harry's ipv6 patch 
1192562382 M * toidinamai Oh, I didn't notice there was on.
1192562386 M * toidinamai Thanks, fb.
1192562394 M * daniel_hozac has it been updated to fix the problems in the IPv6 patch?
1192562601 J * larsivi ~larsivi@101.84-48-201.nextgentel.com
1192562932 M * brc daniel_hozac: sorry sent wrong config.. hold
1192562983 M * brc Copied the wrong file, from the old kernel.
1192562984 M * brc daniel_hozac: http://201.33.19.124/config-2.6.22.9-vs2.2.0.4
1192562990 J * alex^^^^^ ~email@78-86-117-217.zone2.bethere.co.uk
1192562993 M * alex^^^^^ hello -> me agian
1192563010 M * alex^^^^^ im still getting stuck on "waiting for root" during the bootup
1192563029 M * alex^^^^^ i think ill just try it out on the main server and see what happens,
1192563077 M * daniel_hozac does it have identical hardware?
1192563133 M * alex^^^^^ no
1192563154 M * alex^^^^^ the test machine is exactually on a vmware serbver
1192563163 M * alex^^^^^ so i think thats whats screwing with my test build
1192563169 M * daniel_hozac ah...
1192563179 M * alex^^^^^ ill just hackup grub.conf to switch to my default if it doesnt boot
1192563192 M * alex^^^^^ my main server is in another country so kinda hard to get it reset :)
1192563196 M * alex^^^^^ or else i have to pay :)
1192563275 M * alex^^^^^ fingers crossed
1192563280 J * Yvo ~yvonne@91.64.217.106
1192563316 P * Yvo 
1192563380 J * the-dude ~martijn@senturparks.xs4all.nl
1192563547 Q * bzed Remote host closed the connection
1192563553 J * bzed ~bzed@devel.recluse.de
1192563777 M * alex^^^^^ would like to send you the file "untitled.bmp" (648 Kb). Transfer time is less than 6 minutes with a 28.8 modem.
1192563783 M * alex^^^^^ 6 minutes....... jesus
1192563953 P * the-dude Leaving
1192563974 Q * emtty Read error: Connection reset by peer
1192564100 Q * pusling Remote host closed the connection
1192564156 Q * larsivi Quit: Konversation terminated!
1192564344 J * larsivi ~larsivi@101.84-48-201.nextgentel.com
1192564404 M * alex^^^^^ when im compiling the kernel
1192564410 J * pusling pusling@88.212.70.38
1192564416 M * alex^^^^^ and i want to ensure that scsi and raid support is enabled
1192564430 M * alex^^^^^ during make menuconfig, the options need to me m or * ?
1192564432 M * alex^^^^^ me = be
1192564606 M * Bertl m means module, * means built in
1192564728 J * Aiken ~james@ppp121-45-206-11.lns1.bne1.internode.on.net
1192565031 N * alex^^^^^ alex^^
1192565189 Q * larsivi Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1192565266 Q * DavidS Quit: Leaving.
1192565802 M * alex^^ apt-get install linux-image-vserver-686 util-vserver ssh
1192565809 M * alex^^ would *686 work on a k7 server too?
1192565822 M * daniel_hozac yes...
1192565830 M * alex^^ ill just get the k7 package right.... works better?
1192566146 M * alex^^ fucking sweet
1192566148 A * alex^^ breathes
1192566160 M * alex^^ 2.6.22-2-k7 booted
1192566268 J * ema ~ema@rtfm.galliera.it
1192566286 M * alex^^ in grub menu.lst, the top most kernel is default yes?
1192566306 M * daniel_hozac depends on what your default line says...
1192566323 M * alex^^ default 0
1192566342 M * alex^^ == first?
1192566363 M * daniel_hozac yes.
1192566520 M * alex^^ ok
1192566524 J * bonbons ~bonbons@2001:960:7ab:0:20b:5dff:fec7:6b33
1192566531 M * alex^^ when compiling the customer kernel, and im doing the make menuconfig
1192566541 M * alex^^ is there anything extra i should be adding into the kernel?
1192566543 J * raa ~raa@207.114.230.7
1192566556 M * alex^^ like ... anything at all? NAT / portfowarding that type tyle?
1192566562 M * alex^^ stuff*?
1192566587 M * daniel_hozac only if you need it...
1192566632 M * alex^^ i can assign internet accessible ip address to the VPS's directly yes?
1192566643 M * daniel_hozac yep.
1192566689 Q * raa 
1192566761 M * alex^^ on debian should i compile the kernel like this:
1192566764 M * alex^^ make-kpkg --initrd kernel-image
1192566770 M * alex^^ or like: make && make install
1192566771 M * alex^^ ?
1192566794 M * daniel_hozac i'm not really a Debian person, but i guess it depends on what you want to achieve.
1192566812 M * daniel_hozac make-kpkg creates re-usable .debs.
1192566843 Q * toidinamai Quit: Leaving
1192567147 M * alex^^ thanks
1192567635 M * bzed alex^^: daniel_hozac is right, use make-kpkg. and it's kernel_image if I'm not wrong
1192568044 M * alex^^ hmm crap
1192568049 M * alex^^ box not coming back up :(
1192568395 M * alex^^ hmmmmm
1192568415 M * alex^^ i downloaded the 2.6.22 from apt-get rebooted box and no problem
1192568432 M * alex^^ i build 2.6.22 from source with vserver patch, and it doesnt boot =/
1192568454 M * Bertl maybe you got the initramfs wrong
1192568459 M * daniel_hozac why didn't you get the vserver kernel from apt-get too?
1192568525 M * alex^^ that was 2.6.18..
1192568534 M * alex^^ maybe i shouldve
1192568537 M * alex^^ ><
1192568548 M * daniel_hozac there are 2.6.22 vserver kernels too...
1192568551 M * alex^^ ah well, ill wait for the server mofos to restart the box
1192568557 M * alex^^ daniel_hozac: on backports?
1192568632 M * daniel_hozac yep.
1192568689 M * Bertl alex^^: next time add panic=30 and make sure that you configure your bootloader to do a one time boot
1192568738 M * alex^^ i asked around on how to do that on gruib
1192568741 M * alex^^ no one seemed to know
1192568784 M * daniel_hozac echo "savedefault --default=<number> --once" | grub
1192568828 M * alex^^ ah ok
1192568844 M * alex^^ also add panic=30 to thta?
1192568846 M * alex^^ that line?
1192568854 M * daniel_hozac no, to the kernel lines.
1192568864 M * alex^^ ah ok
1192568875 M * alex^^ will that reboot even after a system halt or hang on something?
1192568907 M * daniel_hozac just after panics.
1192568945 M * alex^^ hmm
1192569215 Q * bonbons Quit: Leaving
1192569243 J * dna ~dna@105-207-dsl.kielnet.net
1192569983 J * southtel ~southtel@68-114-23-151.dhcp.gwnt.ga.charter.com
1192570042 M * southtel Is it possible to have a vserver guest use an interface that's using dhcp?
1192570062 M * southtel That is, can a guest have a dynamic IP?
1192570075 M * Bertl yes, but Linux-VServer guests do not use interfaces
1192570083 M * Bertl they only use IP subsets
1192570128 M * Bertl but what you probably want to know is: how can I use a Linux-VServer guest with a dynamic 'public' ip, yes?
1192570178 M * southtel I think I want to use a dynamic private IP...192.168...
1192570199 M * daniel_hozac s/dynamic/static/ yes
1192570225 M * Bertl the easiest way to handle dynamic IP changes is to use a static IP (private range too) and S/DNAT to the dynamic one
1192570243 M * southtel Ahh, gotcha.
1192570250 M * Bertl (this way you do not have to change any service bindings)
1192570671 N * phedny Guest1917
1192570679 J * phedny ~mark@ip56538143.direct-adsl.nl
1192570970 Q * julius_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1192570972 M * alex^^ sweet!
1192570974 M * alex^^ server rebooted
1192570978 M * alex^^ only took 30mins
1192571011 Q * dna Quit: Verlassend
1192571079 Q * Guest1917 Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1192571155 M * alex^^ hmmm wtf
1192571168 M * alex^^ when the kernel was booting the last thing in /var/log/syslog was:
1192571169 M * alex^^ ct 16 22:22:22 km31919 kernel: eth3: no IPv6 routers present
1192571169 M * alex^^ Oct 16 22:42:12 km31919 -- MARK --
1192571169 M * alex^^ Oct 16 22:52:56 km31919 shutdown[17925]: shutting down for system reboot
1192571216 M * Bertl so somebody issued a shutdown, it seems?
1192571223 M * alex^^ yes
1192571237 M * alex^^ but when i rebooted into the 2.6.22+vserver kernel
1192571243 M * alex^^ it wouldnt boot for me
1192571261 M * alex^^ last msg before the force reboot was: ct 16 22:22:22 km31919 kernel: eth3: no IPv6 routers present
1192571300 M * Bertl do you use ipv6?
1192571387 M * alex^^ nope
1192571395 M * alex^^ thats the wierd thing
1192571422 M * alex^^ how can i disable ? :)
1192571452 M * Bertl well, first I'd try the backport kernel (for vserver)
1192571524 J * julius_ ~julius@p57B2746E.dip.t-dialin.net
1192571541 M * alex^^ its 2.6.18
1192571551 M * alex^^ ok
1192571553 M * daniel_hozac not from bp.o
1192571554 M * alex^^ ill fire it up now
1192571559 M * alex^^ isnt it?
1192571560 M * alex^^ hmm
1192571561 M * daniel_hozac bp.o has 2.6.22.
1192571905 M * alex^^ ok
1192571907 M * alex^^ done :)
1192571925 P * coderanger_ 
1192571937 M * alex^^ daniel_hozac: echo "savedefault --default=<number> --once" | grub
1192571961 M * alex^^ looks like 2.6.22.9-vs2.2.0.4 is at the top of the list in /boot/grub/menu.lst
1192571978 M * alex^^ the normal on is at position 2 i see
1192571985 M * alex^^ so i would do:
1192572031 M * alex^^ firstly bump the new one down to position three
1192572038 M * alex^^ er two
1192572047 M * alex^^ and then set that flag on it to run it once
1192572054 M * alex^^ and also set the panic=30 setting on it
1192572055 M * alex^^ like this:
1192572068 M * alex^^ ./boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22.9-vs2.2.0.4 root=/dev/md0 ro panic=30 ?
1192572080 M * daniel_hozac yep...
1192572139 Q * Piet Quit: Piet
1192572157 A * alex^^ crosses fingers
1192572252 M * alex^^ hmm
1192572256 M * alex^^ it booted into the normal kernel
1192572264 A * alex^^ checks /var/log/syslog
1192572324 M * alex^^ hmm
1192572340 M * alex^^ it looks like it booted on the normal 2.6.22
1192572410 M * Bertl I'm off to bed now ... a little tired today ... have a good one everyone!
1192572416 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ
1192572421 M * alex^^ cya Bertl, thanks for your help earlier
1192572436 M * alex^^ Debian GNU/Linux, kernel 2.6.22.9-vs2.2.0.4
1192572447 M * alex^^ is the 3rd one on the list
1192572451 M * alex^^ this would make it position 2?
1192572460 M * alex^^ echo "savedefault --default=2 --once" | grub
1192572467 M * alex^^ thus that line should make it default?
1192572477 M * alex^^ for one time round?
1192572501 M * daniel_hozac and you're sure it didn't try booting that, but it failed?
1192572511 M * daniel_hozac also note that you're using Debian. i'm not sure how to do it with that grub.
1192572551 M * alex^^ ahh screw it
1192572555 M * alex^^ im gonna put it up the top
1192572560 M * alex^^ keep the server monkeys busy
1192572646 M * alex^^ ^^
1192572745 M * alex^^ hmmmm ><
1192572755 M * alex^^ not coming backup, oh well, ill figure it out tomorrow
1192573240 Q * alex^^ Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1192573318 M * brc Bertl_zZ: Can the memory problem be considered a bug or should i do something to fix it ?
1192573346 M * daniel_hozac it's definitely a bug, the question is just where....
1192573523 M * brc ok. Let me know if i can do something to help
1192573544 M * daniel_hozac this is completely reproducible, right?
1192573553 M * daniel_hozac i mean, if you restart the host, the issue is still there?
1192573824 M * brc Dont know
1192573840 M * brc The kernel was replaced last thursday
1192573843 M * brc this is the first boot
1192573849 M * brc i have it running on other 2 servers
1192573863 M * brc Man i have been having no luck
1192573869 M * brc all kernels are giving me trouble
1192573875 M * brc the last one was showing empty ps
1192573945 N * phedny Guest1921
1192573953 J * phedny ~mark@ip56538143.direct-adsl.nl
1192574247 N * phedny Guest1922
1192574255 J * phedny ~mark@ip56538143.direct-adsl.nl
1192574355 Q * Guest1921 Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1192574457 Q * Guest1922 Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1192574837 Q * ntrs_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1192575098 Q * julius_ Remote host closed the connection
1192575686 Q * ema Quit: leaving
1192577791 J * raa ~raa@207.114.230.7
1192577895 M * raa Anyone around?
1192577900 M * daniel_hozac sure.
1192577996 M * raa Hi Daniel.  Sitting around watching a guest build I lookedin the logs and see a message I've seen before but never found an answer on.
1192578010 M * raa kernel: vxD: assertion [xid(0) == current(1195)] failed. @
1192578010 M * raa fs/locks.c:832
1192578063 M * raa The 1195 is the contect but I can't find what is causing the error.  Any ideas?
1192578095 M * daniel_hozac a locking operation is performed on a lock which was created in another context.
1192578118 M * daniel_hozac e.g. something is locking the file, migrating into the context, and then attempting to unlock it.
1192578167 M * raa Hum.  This time it happened during a guest build.
1192578185 M * daniel_hozac yeah, rpm-based, right
1192578215 M * raa Right ... Yum  CentOS 5
1192578230 M * raa Anything to worry about?
1192578242 M * daniel_hozac nah, not during build.
1192578268 M * daniel_hozac once you start getting that from guests which are running, that's when you should start wondering what's going on.
1192578281 M * daniel_hozac rpm-based build methods will cause this, i haven't bothered to figure out why.
1192578308 M * raa OK.  I'll look back through the logs and watch in the future.
1192578526 M * raa Looking on another system I see a pile of these:
1192578532 M * raa kernel: vxW: xid=1237 messing with the procfs
1192578563 M * daniel_hozac it means the guest with xid 1237 tried to change a file on /proc, which is disallowed.
1192578715 M * raa Anyway to figure out who-done-it?  This v\guest is only running crond, sshd, and syslog.  Just set up but never put into action.
1192578814 M * daniel_hozac not right now, no.
1192578986 M * raa Well it is more interesting.  The guest has a non-routable IP.  I was thinikng it was sshd as it wasn't configured to listen on the correct IP.
1192579011 M * daniel_hozac that shouldn't be touching files on /proc.
1192579021 M * daniel_hozac and you don't have to configure guests to listen on the correct IPs.
1192579026 M * daniel_hozac that's handled automatically.
1192579105 Q * AStorm Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1192579133 P * dowdle Gotta go home now.
1192579171 M * raa Just a thing I do.  :-)  From the good-old-days of ctx kernels and v_sshd.  I realize I only need to do it in the host but anything worth doing is worth over doing ... right?