1191628918 M * Supaplex yay. feisty guest mostly up to speed.
1191629050 M * faheem Supaplex: What is your host OS?
1191629058 M * Supaplex etch
1191629091 M * faheem Supaplex: So, Ubuntu feisty guest runs on the etch kernel, then?
1191629110 M * faheem I guess they are pretty similar.
1191629112 M * daniel_hozac why wouldn't it?
1191629125 M * faheem Is there anyone here who is not a Debian user? :-)
1191629134 M * daniel_hozac me? :)
1191629164 M * faheem daniel_hozac: Oh. :-)
1191629193 M * faheem daniel_hozac: Well, OS sometimes have specific kernel requirements...
1191629222 M * daniel_hozac that is very rare.
1191629224 M * faheem I don'r use Ubuntu, so don't know how far from stock debian their kernel requirements are.
1191629231 M * daniel_hozac the kernel API is very stable.
1191629559 A * hparker has never used any flavor of debian
1191629578 J * coderanger_ ~coderange@road-runner-38.dynamic2.rpi.edu
1191629692 Q * puck Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1191630231 J * rgl ~rgl@84.90.232.200
1191630233 M * rgl hi
1191630253 Q * dreamind Quit: dreamind
1191630300 M * Supaplex elo'
1191630311 M * rgl michal_, the kprobes+systemtap seems to be more suitable to what I want :-)
1191630544 Q * nospoonuser Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1191630778 J * nospoonuser ~nospoonus@n18-241.dsl.vianetworks.de
1191630884 Q * yang Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1191630894 Q * mnemoc Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1191631063 J * FireEgl FireEgl@4.0.0.0.1.0.0.0.c.d.4.8.0.c.5.0.1.0.0.2.ip6.arpa
1191631955 Q * rgl Quit: Enough
1191631961 M * faheem hparker: Try it. You might like it. :-)
1191632009 M * hparker heh... 'tis ok, I'm one of them idiots that likes to watch his systems compile code
1191632036 M * faheem hparker: Gentoo, then, I take it?
1191632042 M * hparker yeah
1191632089 Q * Piet Quit: Piet
1191632097 M * hparker When I got tired of fighting the rpm world I knew I was going source based.. If gentoo wouldn't of worked out for me I would probably be running FBSD
1191632162 M * faheem Would it be possible to run a gentoo vserver on top of Debian?
1191632168 M * daniel_hozac of course.
1191632215 M * faheem could vserver build do it for me?
1191632225 M * daniel_hozac once you have the stage, yes.
1191632257 M * hparker this weekends project was going to be migrate a fc1 server to gentoo... Went to chroot and it spanked me "kernel to old" .. So, grabbed the drive and shoved it in my desktop.. Not as cool of a migration as I'd hoped for, but will work out in the end
1191632265 M * faheem daniel_hozac: Is stage that tarball thing?
1191632278 M * daniel_hozac yes.
1191632278 M * hparker faheem: Just grab one of Hollow's stages, works peachy
1191632300 M * faheem hparker: Reference?
1191632305 M * hparker There's a guide at gentoo.org that gives the needed vserver line
1191632325 M * daniel_hozac http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/vps/vserver-howto.xml to be specific.
1191632350 M * hparker Man that daniel_hozac is quick with the links
1191632371 M * hparker faheem: the links and everything are in that guide
1191632373 M * daniel_hozac my google-fu is strong, grasshopper.
1191632381 M * hparker so i see
1191632397 M * hparker And typing is bound to be quicker then my old fingers can do
1191632422 M * faheem I saw this earlier. Thought it was for running Gentoo on Gentoo. Hmm, maybe I'll try running Gentoo on Debian...
1191632432 M * daniel_hozac just skip to section 3.
1191632467 M * faheem I take it this is the precompiled stage3/4?
1191632490 M * hparker It's ready to go
1191632492 M * daniel_hozac from http://people.linux-vserver.org/~hollow/stages/, yes.
1191632499 M * faheem Sounds like a handy labor saving thing.
1191632532 M * hparker stage3 is all gentoo supports now anyways, so...
1191632534 M * faheem Cool.
1191632543 M * Hollow hparker: yeah, i'm too slow :)
1191632552 M * hparker Hollow: hehehe
1191633164 M * Supaplex poor sco >:)  http://stuff.techwhack.com/archives/2007/09/29/sco-nasdaq/
1191633200 J * mnemoc ~amery@kilo105.server4you.de
1191634122 Q * mnemoc Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1191634186 J * yang yang@static-ip-62-75-255-124.inaddr.intergenia.de
1191636343 Q * Hollow Read error: Connection reset by peer
1191636369 J * Hollow ~hollow@proteus.croup.de
1191639885 J * almak ~almak@willers.employees.org
1191639895 M * almak hi
1191640173 M * faheem The gentoo vserver thing refers to scripts vesync etc that don't seem to be in there.
1191640293 M * hparker Pretty sure they come in util-vserver, let me look
1191640366 M * almak I am getting this error on a util-vserver 0.30.210 and vserver 
1191640387 M * almak 2.6.14.3-vs2.0.1 "vcontext: execvp("/usr/bin/vnamespace"): No such file or directory"
1191640408 M * almak any idea what the problem can be?
1191640408 A * hparker thinks .210 is a bit old
1191640422 M * almak yea. stuck with it for the time being
1191640437 M * hparker well, sorry... before my time using it 
1191640673 M * hparker faheem: Looks like it's in the scripts directory of 30.213, but.. it looks to be a wrapper around emerge.. Might have to run emerge within the vhost
1191641093 J * puck ~puck@leibniz.catalyst.net.nz
1191641244 M * almak is there some description of what failure from testme.sh means?
1191641276 M * faheem hparker: My host is Debian, so not quite sure how that would work for me. Should I install util-vserver inside the Gentoo guest?
1191641311 M * faheem Never run gentoo before. It certainly is busy. :-)
1191641318 M * hparker faheem: No, I'd just use the native tools within the guest... vemerge and friends are to update the guests from the host
1191641328 M * faheem Vroom, vroom.
1191641332 M * hparker hehe
1191641346 M * faheem hparker: You mean "emerge sync" etc?
1191641370 M * hparker Doing a 32bit install in a chroot on my amd64 atm to upgrade an old fc1 server with
1191641375 M * hparker faheem: yes
1191641437 M * faheem I'm having the odd experience that the gentoo guest is grabbing stuff, but there is little evidence of this in the host. I can't see anything running. Surely there should be some sign of all this at that level?
1191641460 M * hparker "grabbing stuff"?
1191641544 M * faheem Off the net, downloading things etc. Also looks like it is using quite a lot of memory, but can't see anything from host.
1191641662 M * hparker Are you running emerge?
1191641900 M * faheem hparker: Yup.
1191641921 M * faheem how do you check what versions are available?
1191641936 M * faheem It is giving me hg 0.9.3, but I want 0.9.4.
1191642008 M * hparker emerge will download from the 'net... To check versions I like eix.. emerge eix && eix <appname>
1191642045 M * faheem hparker: getting eix now. Thanks.
1191642063 M * faheem hparker: Isn't emerge etc. written in python?
1191642089 M * hparker yeah
1191642424 M * faheem How do I emerge a particular version?
1191642477 M * hparker emerge =app-0.1.2-r1
1191642490 M * hparker Or is it catagory/app 
1191642494 M * hparker I forget now :P
1191642518 M * faheem hparker: Tried that. It is masked.
1191642518 M * faheem !!! All ebuilds that could satisfy "=mercurial-0.9.4" have been masked.
1191642519 M * faheem !!! One of the following masked packages is required to complete your request:
1191642519 M * faheem - dev-util/mercurial-0.9.4 (masked by: ~x86 keyword)
1191642520 M * hparker I think it's cat/app .. Not done it in awhile... 
1191642532 M * faheem Not sure what the problem is...
1191642554 M * hparker Ok, time to take this to a relevant channel and time for you to man (emerge|portage) ;)
1191642582 M * faheem hparker: Tried reading the man page. I get so tired of reading docs...
1191642599 M * faheem Ok, good night, Will play with this later...
1191642607 M * hparker I know how that is, I've been crash coursing css lately
1191642614 M * hparker g'nite
1191645863 M * Supaplex Oh, now I see why gentoo is a productivity tool. http://xkcd.com/303/
1191645912 M * hparker As i sit here watching an install compile ;)
1191645996 M * Supaplex hehehe cool
1191646063 M * hparker Was planning on doing it in the server with just 1 reboot to show the windowsy IT dude how OS updates should happen... Went to chroot and got spanked because of the 2.4 kernel :P
1191646083 M * Supaplex heh
1191646448 J * balbir ~balbir@122.167.81.189
1191649936 Q * hardwire Read error: Operation timed out
1191650034 J * hardwire ~bip@rdbck-5433.palmer.mtaonline.net
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1191651197 J * virtuoso_ ~s0t0na@ppp91-122-94-51.pppoe.avangard-dsl.ru
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1191653104 J * Die ~diego@host181.200-117-171.telecom.net.ar
1191653131 P * Die 
1191653538 J * JonB ~NoSuchUse@kg0-194.kollegiegaarden.dk
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1191655544 J * dna ~dna@170-244-dsl.kielnet.net
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1191657431 Q * hparker Quit: *burp*.. It's broke
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1191658670 A * rgl waves
1191658792 J * arachnist arachnist@088156185052.who.vectranet.pl
1191658815 Q * rgl 
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1191660334 J * arachnist arachnist@088156185052.who.vectranet.pl
1191660354 J * rgl ~rgl@84.90.232.200
1191660586 Q * FireEgl Read error: Connection reset by peer
1191661435 J * FireEgl FireEgl@4.0.0.0.1.0.0.0.c.d.4.8.0.c.5.0.1.0.0.2.ip6.arpa
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1191661968 J * JonB ~NoSuchUse@kg0-194.kollegiegaarden.dk
1191662330 J * Julius ~julius@p57B25398.dip.t-dialin.net
1191662778 J * Piet ~piet@tor.noreply.org
1191663313 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl
1191663317 M * Bertl morning folks!
1191663352 M * JonB hey Bertl 
1191663497 M * arachnist moin
1191663518 M * morten moin :-)
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1191664846 J * arachnist arachnist@088156184167.who.vectranet.pl
1191664983 Q * arachnist 
1191664987 J * arachnist arachnist@088156184167.who.vectranet.pl
1191666326 J * bonbons ~bonbons@2001:960:7ab:0:20b:5dff:fec7:6b33
1191666552 M * yang Hey Bertl, how can I solve this - I have 2 drives mounted. And vserver guest will only recognise the first drive. So I copied the directory on root-server from /var/lib/vservers/guest1/directory to /disk2/directory and made a "ln -s" link there , that should work ?
1191666586 M * Bertl two drives mean, two external disk which get mounted on the host?
1191666591 M * Bertl *disks
1191666603 M * yang two internal SATA drives on root-server
1191666619 M * Bertl okay, and what do you mean by 'recognize'?
1191666654 M * yang well, recently formatted the second disk and on guest when i type "df" I see only /dev/hdv1 which shows the first drive space
1191666680 M * Bertl okay, did you mount the second disk for the guest somehow?
1191666841 M * yang i moiunted it on root-server
1191666849 M * yang and i made "ln -s" on the root-server
1191666866 M * Bertl well, a symbolic link will not work inside the guest
1191666885 M * Bertl as the location it is pointing to does not exist
1191666897 M * yang pointing from /var/lib/vservers/guest1/home/user/directory -> /disk2/directory on root-server
1191666925 M * Bertl yeah, but /disk2 doesn't exist inside the guest, no=
1191666928 M * Bertl s/=/?
1191666939 M * yang no, it exists only on root-server
1191666954 M * Bertl so the symbolic link will not work then :)
1191666955 Q * the-dude Read error: Connection reset by peer
1191666979 M * yang well i made symbolic link on root-server not on guest
1191667014 M * Bertl so it will work on the root-server and it will not work inside the guest :)
1191667028 J * the-dude ~martijn@senturparks.xs4all.nl
1191667034 M * Bertl wb the-dude!
1191667043 M * yang hm, any idea how i could solve this then?
1191667066 M * Bertl sure, it's quite simple and you have at least two options
1191667070 M * yang maybe if i restart the guest, then it would recognise the new mounted drive from root-server or?
1191667093 M * Bertl no, and the symbolic link outside the guest won't work either
1191667111 M * Bertl what you can do is the following:
1191667128 M * Bertl (depending on what you actually want to achieve)
1191667146 M * Bertl - mount the second disk in the guest's fstab into the guest
1191667157 M * Bertl or (if you want to share that disk between guests)
1191667185 M * Bertl - mount it inside the guest to /disk2 (as on the host) and --bind mount a sub directory into the guest dir
1191667385 J * julius_ ~julius@p57B25398.dip.t-dialin.net
1191667424 M * yang but on root server i see /dev/sda1 as a valid partition, and on guest there is /dev/hdv1...So if I put on guests /etc/fstab /dev/sdb will it recognise the drive and mount it?
1191667446 M * Bertl no, why should it?
1191667464 M * Bertl if it is /dev/sda1 on the host?
1191667490 M * yang then I don't know how to "mount the second disk in the guest's fstab into the guest"
1191667499 M * Bertl and you want to put any device mounts into the guest config, not into the fstab inside the guest
1191667512 J * friendly12345 ~friendly@ppp121-44-205-137.lns3.mel4.internode.on.net
1191667527 M * Bertl what is the device for /disk2 and is it mounted when the host boots up?
1191667529 M * yang ah
1191667546 M * yang ./dev/sdb1 is /disk2
1191667560 M * yang mounts there
1191667575 M * Bertl okay, when the host boots up, it is already mounted, yes?
1191667580 M * yang yes
1191667600 M * Bertl okay, then simply put a bind mount into /etc/vservers/<name>/fstab
1191667633 M * Bertl from /disk2/directory to /home/user/directory
1191667655 M * Bertl or if you have several users, then like this:
1191667662 Q * Julius Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1191667669 M * Bertl from /disk2/guest to /home/user2
1191667690 M * Bertl you can then use symlinks for each user into user2
1191667788 J * meandtheshell ~markus@85-127-110-169.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at
1191667799 M * yang Bertl: this is the fstab entry for the guest http://openpaste.org/en/3397/, could you write there the linnne that would allow that mountttt?
1191667892 M * Bertl http://openpaste.org/en/3398/
1191667906 M * Bertl just one example, try it out and play a little around
1191667937 M * yang thanks
1191667937 M * Bertl make sure that /var/lib/vservers/guest1/home/user2 exists
1191668078 M * yang and the restart of the guest is required to mount the directory properly
1191668094 M * Bertl basically no, but to test it, yes
1191668107 M * Bertl you can also mount it manually in the guest namespace
1191668327 M * yang ps wuxa | more
1191668352 M * Bertl root     11366  0.0  0.0      0     0 ?        S    Sep22   2:11 evil-process
1191668360 M * yang lol
1191668367 M * yang well i need to reboot the guest now, and see...
1191668534 Q * yang Remote host closed the connection
1191669132 J * yang yang@yang.sponsor.oftc.net
1191669150 M * yang Bertl: it works, thank you !
1191669172 M * Bertl you're welcome!
1191669726 Q * Aiken Quit: Leaving
1191670128 M * matti Bertl: :)
1191670146 M * Bertl hey matti! everyting fine?
1191670151 M * matti Yes!
1191670157 M * matti Yourself?
1191670187 M * Bertl yeah fine ... still a little tired ... guess I'll take a nap soon
1191670347 M * matti Oh.
1191670354 M * matti I've made you coffee :)
1191670369 M * matti :)
1191670946 M * Bertl okay, off for nap ... back later ...
1191670957 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ
1191671619 J * ema ~ema@rtfm.galliera.it
1191671804 J * ntrs_ ~ntrs@79.125.193.224
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1191674134 J * ||Cobra|| ~cob@pc-csa01.science.uva.nl
1191675070 J * Red_Devil ~red@lounge.datux.nl
1191675156 M * Red_Devil anyone know why my quota's won't work?
1191675160 M * Red_Devil i'm getting this error
1191675161 M * Red_Devil [root@reseller01 /]# quotacheck /
1191675161 M * Red_Devil quotacheck: Mountpoint (or device) / not found.
1191675161 M * Red_Devil quotacheck: Can't find filesystem to check or filesystem not mounted with quota option.
1191675164 M * Red_Devil [root@reseller01 /]#
1191675169 M * Red_Devil and my mtab is: 
1191675181 M * Red_Devil [root@reseller01 /]# cat /etc/mtab
1191675182 M * Red_Devil /dev/hdv1 / ufs rw,usrquota,grpquota 0 0
1191675182 M * Red_Devil [root@reseller01 /]#
1191675182 M * daniel_hozac use /dev/hdv1
1191675192 M * Red_Devil i'm using that
1191675200 M * Red_Devil but my /proc/mounts says
1191675211 M * Red_Devil rootfs / rootfs rw 0 0
1191675211 M * Red_Devil /dev/root / ext3 rw,data=ordered 0 0
1191675212 M * daniel_hozac i meant as the argument to quotacheck.
1191675216 M * Red_Devil ohw
1191675222 M * Red_Devil trying that
1191675226 M * daniel_hozac that doesn't look like you mounted the filesystem with usrquota,grpquota.
1191675274 M * Red_Devil mmh
1191675335 M * Red_Devil i'm trying to remount
1191675336 M * Red_Devil :)
1191675706 J * insitu ~user@abailly.pck.nerim.net
1191675724 M * insitu hello
1191675740 M * daniel_hozac hi
1191675801 M * insitu I am trying to setup xvfb on vserver (I need this for java to work more or less properly. There are workaround but X is the simplest). I did apt-get install xvfb
1191675831 M * insitu But when I do xvfb :1 -screen 0 1600x1200x32
1191675856 M * Red_Devil i'm getting near a solution
1191675859 M * insitu I got: _XSERVTransSocketOpenCOTSServer: Unable to open socket for inet6
1191675874 M * Red_Devil the partition was not mounted with the right options ;)
1191676020 M * daniel_hozac insitu: and?
1191676052 Q * meandtheshell Quit: Leaving.
1191676053 M * insitu and xvfb does not want to start... 
1191676219 M * insitu do I need to apply ipv6 patch for vserver, or can I start xvfb without the need to bind to an ipv6 socket ?
1191676259 M * daniel_hozac would be rather strange if it required IPv6 to start...
1191676716 M * insitu i was stupid for one minute :)
1191676735 M * insitu it works when I installed xfonts-base
1191677687 Q * JonB Quit: This computer has gone to sleep
1191678498 M * insitu it works fine. I can generate images for java. It does not work however when I set DISPLAY=localhost:1.0 
1191678509 M * insitu localhost is reserved for the host ?
1191678540 N * esa fede
1191678554 M * daniel_hozac DISPLAY=:1.0 doesn't work either?
1191678633 M * insitu yes it works. Actually, it worked before I set the DISPLAY variable. Assume java internally uses this default ? Sounds strange actually because how could it know that xvfb is running as display 1 ?
1191678881 M * Red_Devil i have still this issue
1191678882 M * Red_Devil [root@reseller01 /]# quotaon -auvg
1191678882 M * Red_Devil quotaon: using //aquota.group on /dev/hdv1 [/]: Operation not permitted
1191678893 Q * balbir Read error: Operation timed out
1191678900 M * Red_Devil filesystems are mounted with quota options
1191678912 M * daniel_hozac Red_Devil: did you give the guest VXC_QUOTA_CTL?
1191679029 M * Red_Devil only thing i did was put quota_ctl in /etc/vservers/reseller01/ccapabilites
1191679044 M * Red_Devil do i need to change that to vxc_quota_ctl ?
1191679055 M * daniel_hozac and you did restart the guest after that, right?
1191679074 M * Red_Devil yes
1191679195 M * Red_Devil do i need to use vxc_quota_ctl ?
1191679202 M * Red_Devil or can i just use quota_ctl
1191679206 M * Red_Devil ?
1191679213 M * daniel_hozac either one works.
1191679229 M * Red_Devil ok
1191679240 M * Red_Devil i can use repquota
1191679331 M * insitu thx for your help. bye.
1191679333 Q * insitu Quit: ERC Version 5.1.4 (IRC client for Emacs)
1191679686 J * balbir ~balbir@122.167.75.14
1191679754 M * faheem Hi. Possibly dumb question, but what processes are running on the host to make all this magic happen? There is little sign of activity at the host level that I can see.
1191679823 M * daniel_hozac none.
1191679829 M * daniel_hozac it's kernel-level.
1191679850 A * Red_Devil rebooting the machine for good luck ;)
1191679856 M * Red_Devil windows solution
1191679880 M * faheem daniel_hozac: Oh. So the processes only show up in the guest, then?
1191679888 M * daniel_hozac or the spectator, yes.
1191680289 Q * ema Quit: leaving
1191680333 J * mnemoc ~amery@kilo105.server4you.de
1191680335 J * JonB ~NoSuchUse@kg0-194.kollegiegaarden.dk
1191680341 M * faheem daniel_hozac: Sorry about my ignorance, but what is the spectator?
1191680382 M * daniel_hozac the context that sees all (depending on whether privacy is enabled).
1191680781 M * faheem daniel_hozac: I see. Thsnks.
1191681975 P * friendly12345 
1191682092 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl
1191682098 M * Bertl back again ...
1191682193 M * JonB good
1191682637 Q * JonB Quit: This computer has gone to sleep
1191683558 M * Bertl okay, off for dinner, back shortly ...
1191683564 N * Bertl Bertl_oO
1191684529 Q * maddoc Remote host closed the connection
1191685118 J * maddoc maddoc@social.ostruktur.com
1191685429 N * Bertl_oO Bert
1191685438 N * Bert Bertl
1191685508 M * Red_Devil i still can't get quota's to work
1191685520 M * Red_Devil [root@reseller01 ~]# quotaon /dev/hdv1
1191685520 M * Red_Devil quotaon: using //aquota.group on /dev/hdv1 [/]: Operation not permitted
1191685520 M * Red_Devil quotaon: using //aquota.user on /dev/hdv1 [/]: Operation not permitted
1191685521 M * Red_Devil [root@reseller01 ~]#
1191685534 M * Red_Devil filesystems are mounted with the right options
1191685537 M * Bertl what filesystem and what kernel version?
1191685563 N * ensc Guest1043
1191685572 J * ensc ~irc-ensc@p54B4DDB3.dip.t-dialin.net
1191685589 M * Red_Devil kernel 6.2.20
1191685593 M * Red_Devil extended 3
1191685598 M * Red_Devil vserver version 2.2.0
1191685615 M * Bertl you did configure a vroot device and add the quota capability?
1191685627 M * Red_Devil yes
1191685631 M * Red_Devil like this
1191685648 M * Red_Devil vrsetup /dev/vroot0 /dev/vg00/reseller01
1191685652 M * Red_Devil and 
1191685663 M * Red_Devil vpshost01 ~ # cat /etc/vservers/reseller01/ccapabilites
1191685663 M * Red_Devil vxc_quota_ctl
1191685664 M * Red_Devil vpshost01 ~ #
1191685678 J * Skram ~mark@HERCULES.sentiensystems.net
1191685682 Q * Guest1043 Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1191685688 M * Bertl try QUOTA_CTL instead
1191685706 M * Red_Devil gonna try it
1191685755 J * m_stone_ ~mstone@teach.laptop.org
1191685768 M * Bertl wb m_stone_!
1191685798 M * Red_Devil Bertl: is it case sensetive ?
1191685816 J * Julius ~julius@p57B26DC4.dip.t-dialin.net
1191685827 J * dilinger_ ~dilinger@mail.queued.net
1191685827 M * Bertl I don't think so, but better use the suggested case :)
1191685833 J * tam_ ~tam@gw.nettam.com
1191685843 J * neuralis_ ~krstic@solarsail.hcs.harvard.edu
1191685859 J * hardwire` ~bip@rdbck-5433.palmer.mtaonline.net
1191685860 M * Red_Devil doesn't work :)
1191685862 J * hallyn_ ~xa@adsl-75-2-77-142.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net
1191685864 J * PhatJ_ ~PhatJ@24-231-253-65.dhcp.aldl.mi.charter.com
1191685887 J * Mooo ~troy@shells195.pinchaser.com
1191685891 Q * hardwire resistance.oftc.net larich.oftc.net
1191685891 Q * PhatJ resistance.oftc.net larich.oftc.net
1191685891 Q * Johnnie resistance.oftc.net larich.oftc.net
1191685891 Q * quasisane resistance.oftc.net larich.oftc.net
1191685891 Q * MooingLemur resistance.oftc.net larich.oftc.net
1191685891 Q * neuralis resistance.oftc.net larich.oftc.net
1191685891 Q * dilinger resistance.oftc.net larich.oftc.net
1191685891 Q * bored2sleep resistance.oftc.net larich.oftc.net
1191685891 Q * tam resistance.oftc.net larich.oftc.net
1191685891 Q * Supaplex resistance.oftc.net larich.oftc.net
1191685891 Q * m_stone resistance.oftc.net larich.oftc.net
1191685891 Q * Skram_ resistance.oftc.net larich.oftc.net
1191685891 Q * coderanger resistance.oftc.net larich.oftc.net
1191685891 Q * hallyn resistance.oftc.net larich.oftc.net
1191685897 A * bXi looks at Red_Devil 
1191685918 M * Bertl Red_Devil: how is the filesystem mounted?
1191685919 M * Red_Devil hello bXi 
1191685933 Q * Julius 
1191685934 M * Red_Devil rootfs / rootfs rw 0 0
1191685934 M * Red_Devil /dev/root / ext3 rw,data=ordered,usrquota,grpquota 0 0
1191685940 J * Johnnie ~jdlewis@c-67-163-142-234.hsd1.ct.comcast.net
1191685940 M * Red_Devil tis is from /proc/mounts
1191685953 M * Red_Devil and this is my mtab
1191685954 M * Red_Devil [root@reseller01 ~]# cat /etc/mtab
1191685954 M * Red_Devil /dev/hdv1 / ufs rw,usrquota,grpquota 0 0
1191685955 M * Red_Devil [root@reseller01 ~]#   
1191685987 J * bored2sleep ~bored2sle@66.111.53.150
1191686041 M * bXi Red_Devil: are all your vservers running on that uberbox yet?
1191686049 M * Red_Devil not yet
1191686052 M * Bertl and /dev/hdv1 inside the guest is the vroot device, yes?
1191686052 M * Red_Devil need quota support
1191686059 M * Red_Devil yes Bertl 
1191686070 M * Red_Devil [root@reseller01 ~]# ls -la /dev/hdv1
1191686070 M * Red_Devil brw-rw---- 1 root disk 4, 0 Oct  6  2007 /dev/hdv1
1191686071 M * Red_Devil [root@reseller01 ~]#
1191686072 M * Red_Devil :)
1191686088 M * Bertl okay, please do the quota command once again with 'strace -fF' and upload the output
1191686090 M * bXi your running your mail on our server now right?
1191686100 M * Red_Devil yes bXi 
1191686104 M * bXi cool
1191686111 J * Supaplex ~e@166-70-62-194.ip.xmission.com
1191686113 M * Red_Devil vservers are p0wning
1191686114 M * Red_Devil :)
1191686126 M * Bertl hehe
1191686149 M * Red_Devil :)
1191686155 A * Red_Devil is installing strace
1191686176 M * bXi hmmm speaking of strace
1191686182 M * bXi i should investigate that bus error some more
1191686235 M * bXi Red_Devil: do you still remember what the last command was that generated that bus error
1191686244 M * bXi (python-updater or something i think)
1191686247 M * Red_Devil no bXi 
1191686403 M * faheem Anyone recommend a reference for setting up apache inside a vserver?
1191686407 M * Red_Devil http://ronnie.spothost.nl/output.txt
1191686412 M * Red_Devil there is the strace output
1191686452 M * faheem I assume this is mostly a matter of setting up packets in the host to be redirected to suitable ports on the virtual machine.
1191686507 M * Bertl Red_Devil: okay, please upload the following too:
1191686531 Q * virtuoso_ Read error: Connection reset by peer
1191686576 M * Bertl cat /proc/virtual/<xid>/status
1191686653 M * bXi hmmm
1191686659 M * bXi i was somehow expecting a huge list
1191686659 M * bXi :p
1191686669 M * Red_Devil http://ronnie.spothost.nl/output2.txt
1191686675 M * Red_Devil :)
1191686708 M * Bertl qota capability is missing (as expected)
1191686716 M * Red_Devil ah
1191686718 M * Red_Devil weird
1191686741 M * Bertl maybe (very)old util-vserver?
1191686751 M * Bertl try to add it manually 
1191686775 M * Red_Devil   sys-cluster/util-vserver
1191686775 M * Red_Devil       Latest version available: 0.30.212-r2
1191686776 M * Red_Devil       Latest version installed: 0.30.212-r2
1191686796 M * Bertl vattribute --set --xid <xid> --ccap QUOTA_CTL
1191686861 M * Bertl you are expecting to see: CCaps:	0000000000100101
1191686877 M * Red_Devil vpshost01 red # vserver reseller01 enter
1191686877 M * Red_Devil [root@reseller01 /]# quotaon /dev/hdv1
1191686878 M * Red_Devil [root@reseller01 /]#
1191686879 M * Red_Devil !!!!!!!!
1191686881 M * Red_Devil thanks! 
1191686887 M * Bertl you're welcome!
1191686902 M * Red_Devil i spended the hole day on it :)
1191686927 M * Bertl permission denied is usually a good hint to missing permissions :)
1191687095 M * Red_Devil i know. :)
1191687119 M * Red_Devil ok, next issue. direct admin fails on setting quota's
1191687142 M * Bertl well, no idea what direct admin does :)
1191687142 M * Red_Devil but i;m gonna fix that by looking at hte da forums ;)
1191687217 M * Red_Devil i probably misconfigured some things ;)
1191687514 Q * balbir Read error: Connection reset by peer
1191687908 M * jm_caricand A little question :-) Why vlimit doesn't have a option as "--save" ? It's difficult to add ?  
1191687938 M * Bertl save is supposed to write to the config file too?
1191687945 M * jm_caricand yes
1191687958 M * Bertl well, you could suggest that to daniel_hozac 
1191687967 M * Bertl (or file a feature request on savannah)
1191687980 M * jm_caricand Ok. Thank
1191688056 M * jm_caricand I think your second option is the best (request on savannah) ?
1191688075 M * Bertl won't hurt, yes
1191688097 M * faheem The IP addresses on http://linux-vserver.org/Networking_vserver_guests don't look consistent.
1191688104 M * faheem Either that, or I'm missing something.
1191688113 M * Bertl sec
1191688124 M * faheem iptables ... 192.168.1.0 ??
1191688136 M * faheem 192.168.1.0 not mentioned earlier.
1191688141 M * Bertl that's the network and that is fine
1191688203 M * Bertl ipcalc -nmb 192.168.1.250/24
1191688215 M * faheem Bertl: Don't follow. What is that number supposed to correspond to?
1191688328 M * Bertl it corresponds to the network address (see ipcalc example)
1191688344 M * faheem ipcalc -nmb 192.168.1.250/24
1191688344 M * faheem Unknown option: -m
1191688352 M * faheem Version in etch.
1191688375 M * Bertl well, -n should be enough: :) but I'd file a bug report/update request :)
1191688385 M * faheem Guess I'd better brush up on my networking.
1191688399 M * faheem What is the -m option supposed to be for, and why is it a bug?
1191688407 M * bzed you could use netmask, that's in etch and works well
1191688409 M * Bertl it shows the netmask
1191688460 M * Bertl http://paste.linux-vserver.org/6883
1191688485 M * faheem Recommendations for basic Linux networking? I always have trouble finding something in this area.
1191688523 M * Bertl well, I think you are actually looking for 'networking' stuff (not necessarily linux networking yet)
1191688544 M * faheem Bertl: Ok. fair enough. Suggestions?
1191688576 M * faheem Is the -m in a more recent version of ipcalc, then?
1191688580 J * balbir ~balbir@122.167.96.64
1191688597 M * Bertl http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ipv4
1191688613 M * Bertl well, I don't know, it has always been there in my distro :)
1191688629 M * faheem Bertl: Thanks (re article).
1191688636 M * faheem Maybe I'll buy a book.
1191688888 J * dna ~dna@190-232-dsl.kielnet.net
1191688901 J * wr ~wr@p54979019.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
1191688917 M * wr hello
1191688933 M * wr I've got some problems installing bind9 on a vserver
1191688948 M * wr it says something like "capset failed operation not permitted"
1191688955 M * wr does anyone know how to solve the problem?
1191688992 M * Bertl you have quite a number of options here
1191689012 M * Bertl - update the kernel
1191689026 M * Bertl - patch bind9 to do the right thing
1191689042 M * Bertl - disable the capabilities for bind9 and run it as root
1191689078 M * Bertl http://linux-vserver.org/Problematic_Programs#Bind9_on_Debian_GNU.2FLinux_Woody_.283.0.29.2C_Sarge_.283.1.29.2C_Etch_.284.0.29
1191689145 M * Bertl basically it is a bug in bind9 
1191689306 J * JonB ~NoSuchUse@kg0-194.kollegiegaarden.dk
1191689509 J * hparker ~hparker@linux.homershut.net
1191690098 M * Bertl wb hparker! JonB!
1191690108 M * Bertl wr: if something is unclear, please ask ...
1191690109 M * JonB hey Bertl 
1191690120 M * hparker heya Bertl 
1191690148 M * wr thanks, I guess I solved it now...
1191690161 M * Bertl excellent!
1191690674 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: is 0.30.214 able to build Mandriva guests (via network/urpmi/*)?
1191690816 M * daniel_hozac no, urpmi is a terrible mess.
1191691062 M * Bertl okay, any plans to to fix/change that? or shall I simply put up a few .tar templates?
1191691130 J * Julius ~julius@p57B26DC4.dip.t-dialin.net
1191691130 M * daniel_hozac well, i'd love to add support for it, but urpmi seems to have no easy way of saying "use this config file and these cache directories".
1191691154 M * Bertl I guess that can be easily changed (if it can be easily changed :)
1191691168 M * Bertl i.e. I didn't get the impression that urpmi is written in stone
1191691190 M * daniel_hozac sure.
1191691990 J * virtuoso ~s0t0na@ppp91-122-94-51.pppoe.avangard-dsl.ru
1191692261 Q * Julius Quit: Verlassend
1191692343 J * Piet_ ~piet@tor.noreply.org
1191692687 Q * Piet Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1191693083 Q * ntrs_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1191693706 Q * bonbons Quit: Leaving
1191694216 J * rgl ~rgl@84.90.232.200
1191694219 A * rgl waves
1191694227 A * Bertl waves back
1191694241 M * rgl have you guys tried out systemtap?  it seems so nice :D
1191694262 M * daniel_hozac yeah, i've used it.
1191694268 J * coderanger_ ~coderange@canary-16.dynamic2.rpi.edu
1191694330 M * rgl are there any conflicts with vserver that one should be aware
1191694331 M * rgl ?
1191694347 N * dilinger_ dilinger
1191694356 M * daniel_hozac nope...
1191694402 M * rgl :D
1191695676 J * Hollow_ ~hollow@proteus.croup.de
1191695676 Q * Hollow Read error: Connection reset by peer
1191696959 J * Julius ~julius@p57B26DC4.dip.t-dialin.net
1191699266 Q * Julius Remote host closed the connection
1191700595 J * Aiken ~james@ppp121-45-249-108.lns2.bne4.internode.on.net
1191700789 Q * micah Server closed connection
1191700790 J * micah ~micah@micah.riseup.net
1191700961 Q * JonB Quit: This computer has gone to sleep
1191702482 Q * FireEgl Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1191705335 J * Yvo ~yvonne@91.64.217.106
1191706032 J * quasisane ~sanep@c-76-118-191-64.hsd1.nh.comcast.net
1191706199 Q * coderanger_ Quit: coderanger_
1191706633 M * Bertl hey Yvo!
1191706642 M * Bertl Yvo: what's up?
1191706741 M * Yvo hi :-)
1191706778 M * Yvo does this seperate chat work?
1191706817 M * Bertl any issues with Linux-VServer?
1191706845 J * FireEgl FireEgl@4.0.0.0.1.0.0.0.c.d.4.8.0.c.5.0.1.0.0.2.ip6.arpa
1191706860 M * Yvo yes, but a special linux-v-server
1191706873 M * Bertl ah, interesting ... let's hear ...
1191707202 Q * jm_caricand Quit: ERC Version 5.0.2 $Revision: 1.726.2.11 $ (IRC client for Emacs)
1191707243 M * Yvo well, some weeks ago we were talking about the problems we had with our vserver...
1191707301 M * Bertl okay, any date to lookup in the irc logs, or short version what the problems were?
1191707431 M * Yvo it was working great during the last view weeks since the they we put the user-data on it and  view minutes ago I was still so happy about that, I just joined this channel today to tell you the adress of "my" server and show you the result :-)
1191707476 M * Bertl i.c. so everything is working fine now and you are just happy, right?
1191707481 M * Yvo but now I can't reach it, I just want to cry :-(
1191707492 M * Yvo na, I was happy
1191707507 M * Bertl okay, so what happened in the meantime?
1191707508 M * Yvo but since 5 minutes, I'm not
1191707605 M * Yvo I don't know, I was just navigating through some directories and tried to open a file with nano
1191707615 M * Yvo nothing more :-(
1191707630 M * Yvo now ssh is dead
1191707635 M * Yvo ping still works
1191707637 M * Bertl well, do you remember what kernel/patch version you used?
1191707676 M * Yvo but the server is some kilometers away and I can't access ist directly
1191707718 M * Bertl no remote (serial) console?
1191707766 M * Yvo I usally access host and virtual server via ssh
1191707821 M * Bertl which is fine if everything works as expected, but usually insufficient if something goes wrong ...
1191707823 M * Yvo we had problems with the hardware yesterday
1191707836 M * Bertl in what way?
1191707907 M * Yvo ram or/and mainboard... the two hdds are now working in the hardware of the old server
1191707958 M * Yvo we had to reinstall some broken packages but then ist was working fine for more than 20 hours now
1191708008 M * Bertl so you might have hit a filesystem issue or similar
1191708018 M * Bertl which can easily lead to a kernel panic
1191708076 M * Yvo you mean the file I tried to read was broken?
1191708094 M * Bertl that is one possibility
1191708107 M * Bertl could have been something completely different too
1191708124 M * Bertl only way to tell that is to look at the console for possible clues
1191708180 M * Yvo assuming, that was the problem, what can I do to repair that file-system?
1191708195 M * Bertl it's ext2/3?
1191708248 M * Yvo ext3
1191708274 M * Bertl then boot with a rescue cd/dvd and run an e2fsck -f on the filesystems in question
1191708295 M * Bertl once that is done, whatever is left should be consistent
1191708524 M * Yvo and what is the result of that? everything broken is removed? inclusive emails?
1191708629 M * Bertl well, it will bring the fielsystem into a consistant state, that doesn't say much about the data though
1191708891 M * Yvo and why is the host down to, if the virtual server crashes? :-(
1191709084 M * Bertl no, if the filesystem was bad, then the host's kernel crashed
1191709103 M * Bertl and if that happened, then the guests are gone too, naturally
1191709133 M * Yvo I hate it
1191709136 M * Yvo sorry :-(
1191709193 M * Bertl hardware is always problematic, especially if it is broken
1191709620 M * Yvo ok, I absolutely don't know why, but it works again
1191709650 M * Yvo perhaps someone was there and rebootet it, I don't know - great communication
1191709760 Q * hparker Quit: peer reset by connection
1191709783 M * Yvo I think somebody was there...
1191709808 M * Yvo can I do something useful now to avoid a new craesh?
1191709865 M * daniel_hozac finding out what caused it would be the first step...
1191710267 M * Bertl I asked for the kernel version above, if you are using an older kernel, you might want to update
1191710307 Q * dna Quit: Verlassend
1191710413 M * Yvo ok, I did the last update on sunday, but it seems, there is a new kernel, but I'm not really sure if I want to do that now in this situation
1191710620 M * Yvo I've got the /var/log/syslog file here, but I do not have enough experience to understand all that
1191710652 M * Bertl can you upload it somewhere?
1191710771 M * Yvo can I perhaps send you an email with that? It is not only my server and I don't know if the "boss" is so happy, if I simply post that somewhere public :-/
1191710812 M * Bertl sure, email or dcc is fine too
1191711068 M * Yvo Bertl, you've got mail!
1191711117 M * Bertl likely to take a few more minutes (greylisting)
1191711753 J * mugwump ~samv@watts.utsl.gen.nz
1191712245 J * wr_ ~wr@p5497AEAA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
1191712419 Q * cehteh Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1191712460 M * Bertl Yvo: still no mail, please double check that you didn't get an error message back
1191712612 M * Bertl (alternatively, if you tell me the origin, I can check for it :)
1191712657 Q * FaUl Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1191712669 J * cehteh ~ct@pipapo.org
1191712702 Q * wr Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1191712847 M * Yvo hmm, I used the adress in your profile, was that wrong?
1191712868 M * daniel_hozac "profile"?
1191712928 M * Yvo I don't have a problem with giving you ssh-access, but if somebody notices that, they will kill me ;-)
1191712984 M * Yvo i'm using pidgin and there I can simply right click on names to see something like "icq profile" :-D
1191712988 M * Bertl no, I prefer not having ssh access :)
1191713022 M * Bertl just let me know where you sent the email to, and what 'From' I have to expect
1191713145 M * Yvo herbert@IRC.13thfloor.at
1191713171 M * Yvo the from is yvonne.mik ....
1191713182 M * Bertl okay, irc is not a good email destination, try herbert at 13thfloor.at
1191713209 M * Bertl (although the mx record should be fine, I think)
1191713240 M * Bertl nah, it's not set :)
1191713316 M * Yvo better now? ;-)
1191713430 M * Bertl we'll se in 5-10 minutes
1191713813 M * Bertl yep, got it now
1191713829 M * Yvo great ;-)
1191713901 M * Bertl you should definitely update :)
1191713923 M * Bertl your kernel is 2.6.18-5-vserver-amd64 2.6.18.dfsg.1-13etch3
1191714039 M * Supaplex mine's old to but eh.
1191714047 M * Supaplex it keeps chungging along
1191714053 M * Bertl this is most likely what caused the host to become unavailable
1191714055 M * Bertl http://paste.linux-vserver.org/6888
1191714077 M * Bertl but the actual cause for this could be hardware as well as software
1191714150 M * Supaplex ewww. what's that mean? bad state in process?
1191714160 M * Supaplex did it cross the border with no visa?
1191714174 M * Bertl something like that :)
1191714279 M * Yvo ok, assuming the hardware is ok because we use the new HDDs in the good old server, what can I do now to avoid a new crash?
1191714412 M * Bertl my suggestions are still the same: make sure to get the filesystem in a consistant state (e2fsck -f) and upgrade the kernel to something more recent
1191714482 M * Yvo but can I do something for the filesystem via ssh? :-/
1191714502 M * Bertl depends, do you ahve a rescue filesystem on that machine?
1191714518 M * Bertl i.e. some installation you can alternatively boot from?
1191714550 M * daniel_hozac (you could temporarily use swap for that purpose...)
1191714582 M * Bertl correct, we even have a wiki page for that (something called server repartitioning)
1191714613 M * Bertl http://oldwiki.linux-vserver.org/Remote+Server+Repartitioning
1191714641 M * Bertl of course, no need to actually repartition the machine in this case :)
1191714650 M * Yvo there is only one system, I can only stop the vserver on sdb if that helps
1191714867 M * Bertl well, you probably want to check all filesystems, but of course, checking some of them is better than none
1191714893 M * Yvo a new system in the swap-partition -  do I really need that? O:-)
1191714921 M * Yvo can I check the hdd with the vserver without that?
1191714947 M * Bertl if you can unmount the partitions, yes
1191715122 M * Yvo I can stop the vserver, unmount that hdd, should not be difficult so far
1191715198 M * Bertl btw, you might want to check the seminar pages of your university for typos (Ontoloy vs Ontology)