1190680778 Q * rorem- Read error: Connection reset by peer
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1190683216 J * rorem- ~roremtank@bzq-219-46-202.isdn.bezeqint.net
1190685153 J * Johnsie ~jdlewis@c-67-163-142-234.hsd1.pa.comcast.net
1190685153 Q * Johnnie Read error: Connection reset by peer
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1190689072 J * rorem- ~roremtank@bzq-219-46-202.isdn.bezeqint.net
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1190696811 J * SuperSSS ~bon@static-ip-62-75-255-124.inaddr.intergenia.de
1190696856 Q * yang Read error: Connection reset by peer
1190697854 Q * SuperSSS Read error: Connection reset by peer
1190699636 J * JonB ~NoSuchUse@kg0-231.kollegiegaarden.dk
1190700008 J * sharkjaw ~gab@158.36.44.106
1190700563 Q * hparker Quit: *burp*.. It's broke
1190701320 J * jmcaricand ~user@d83-179-255-49.cust.tele2.fr
1190701465 M * jmcaricand Hi. Sometimes, I have a vcontext process with 100% of CPU in a guest. Why ? 
1190701528 M * JonB for how long time?
1190701564 M * jmcaricand ?
1190701611 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl
1190701611 M * jmcaricand The value of TIME (top command) is 636:32.14
1190701620 M * Bertl morning folks!
1190701627 M * JonB jmcaricand: ahh, here comes the expert, i will leave you in the hands of be
1190701629 M * JonB Bertl: 
1190701650 M * Bertl what is that process doing?
1190701664 M * jmcaricand Hi bert! I repeat my question : I have a vcontext process with 100% of CPU in a guest. Why ?
1190701726 M * Bertl jmcaricand: I have a good backlog, besides the realtime irc logs :)
1190701741 M * jmcaricand I don't know 
1190701744 M * Bertl jmcaricand: so I repeat _my_ question: what is that process doing?
1190701779 M * JonB jmcaricand: what is the name of the process?
1190701789 M * Bertl you can download a process called cpuhog from our site, which does exactly this (hogging 100% cpu)
1190701813 M * jmcaricand JonB: vcontext
1190701813 M * Bertl there is nothing unusual about that process when it hogs 100% cpu (for example :)
1190701833 M * Bertl vcontext? then please update util-vserver to 0.30.213+
1190701869 M * jmcaricand Bertl: Ok
1190701874 M * Bertl the hanging vcontext is a bug in older tools
1190701897 M * Bertl ah, and you are probably using debian stable, yes?
1190701905 M * jmcaricand Bertl: yes
1190701924 M * Bertl so it won't hurt to file a bug report (or add yourself to the long list) against debian stable
1190701954 M * JonB hmm
1190701955 M * Bertl (so that maintainers will think a little harder about fixing this)
1190701960 M * JonB maybe i should check mine as well
1190701977 M * JonB i never got to compile util-vserver 214
1190702068 M * Bertl 0.30.213 from backports should be fine, IIRC
1190702081 M * Bertl (daniel_hozac will know for sure)
1190702105 M * jmcaricand Bertl: ok I test it.
1190702118 M * JonB Bertl: i'll make another try at compiling it
1190702155 Q * besonen_mobile Read error: Connection reset by peer
1190702862 Q * JonB Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1190703866 J * dna ~dna@14-212-dsl.kielnet.net
1190704050 M * jmcaricand I updated to util-vserver_0.30.213-1_i386.deb. Now, vserver-stat doesn't show CTX 0. Is it normal ?
1190704063 M * daniel_hozac yes.
1190704071 M * daniel_hozac it never should've been there, IMHO.
1190704077 M * jmcaricand thank.
1190704622 Q * dna Read error: Connection reset by peer
1190704699 J * dna ~dna@14-212-dsl.kielnet.net
1190704715 Q * dna 
1190705333 J * JonB ~NoSuchUse@130.227.63.19
1190705475 J * Daniel ~Daniel@14-212-dsl.kielnet.net
1190707292 J * besonen_mobile ~besonen_m@71-220-234-148.eugn.qwest.net
1190707394 M * Bertl wb Daniel! besonen_mobile!
1190707795 J * CWC ~CWC@89-215-37-177.2073053861.ddns-lan.pl.ekk.bg
1190708701 Q * nou Read error: Connection reset by peer
1190708821 M * Bertl wb CWC!
1190709251 M * JonB Bertl: can i symlink directories between 2 vserver guests if they both are subdirectories inside the same filesystem mounted at /var/lib/vservers ?
1190709268 M * daniel_hozac no.
1190709271 M * JonB hmm
1190709274 M * Bertl you can symlink everything which is reachable
1190709285 M * daniel_hozac but you can't symlink across guest boundaries.
1190709300 M * JonB so i have to mount the shared data 2 times in 2 different vserver guests?
1190709315 M * daniel_hozac mount --bind is your friend, yes.
1190709336 M * JonB cant i use the fstab file?
1190709360 M * daniel_hozac yes.
1190709412 M * JonB good
1190709926 J * nou Chaton@causse.larzac.fr.eu.org
1190710657 M * bXi hmmm
1190710670 M * bXi i'm getting a bus error when i try to emerge inside a newly created vserver
1190710687 M * Bertl some hardening or so?
1190710726 M * bXi not that i know off
1190710740 M * bXi its the same stage4 i used for other vservers
1190710741 M * Bertl 32bit on 64bit ekrnels or so?
1190710745 M * bXi and those are still okay
1190710747 M * bXi 64bit
1190710789 M * Bertl okay, strace -fF ?
1190710855 M * bXi hmmm
1190710875 M * bXi i cant emerge strace :P so i'll have to do it manually
1190710926 Q * rorem- Remote host closed the connection
1190711003 M * bXi checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
1190711004 M * bXi man
1190711188 M * bXi crap and now my eth0 died :/
1190711208 M * bXi this means i cant fix it for another 7 hours :(
1190711457 Q * tzafrir Read error: Operation timed out
1190711583 J * DavidS ~david@p5B2A18D6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
1190712386 Q * nou Read error: Connection reset by peer
1190712772 Q * CWC Quit: Client exiting
1190713248 M * bXi a interface on the host shouldnt die if a vserver with the same interface goes down right?
1190713778 M * Bertl as a Linux-VServer guest cannot have an interface, no :)
1190713841 M * Bertl but, if you have assigned a primary IP to a guest, and told the tools to remove that IP, then without 'promote secondaries' enabled, the secondaries will be removed too
1190713953 M * Bertl okay, off for nap now .. back later ...
1190713958 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ
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1190716429 J * bzed ~bzed@devel.recluse.de
1190716687 Q * JonB Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1190717152 J * nou Chaton@causse.larzac.fr.eu.org
1190717226 J * virtuoso_ ~s0t0na@pppoe-80.58.110.89-adsl.spbnit.ru
1190717637 Q * virtuoso Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1190718957 J * JonB ~NoSuchUse@192.38.8.25
1190719432 M * derjohn daniel_hozac, is this still the "best one" available ? http://daniel.hozac.com/stuff/bind-9.3.2-caps-when-available.patch
1190719454 J * Baby ~miry@195.37.62.208
1190719469 P * Baby 
1190719478 N * Daniel dna
1190719657 J * jmcarica` ~user@d83-179-255-49.cust.tele2.fr
1190719948 Q * jmcaricand Remote host closed the connection
1190720165 J * Piet ~piet@tor.noreply.org
1190720541 M * daniel_hozac derjohn: yes.
1190722663 Q * JonB Quit: This computer has gone to sleep
1190723808 J * JonB ~NoSuchUse@192.38.8.25
1190723874 J * Julius ~julius@p57B25BB3.dip.t-dialin.net
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1190724095 J * maddoc maddoc@social.ostruktur.com
1190724300 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl
1190724319 M * Bertl back now ...
1190724468 J * ema ~ema@rtfm.galliera.it
1190724475 Q * Julius Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1190724940 J * rorem- ~roremtank@bzq-219-46-202.isdn.bezeqint.net
1190725112 M * nou hmm, is anybody using quota within vservers with debian/stable ?
1190725147 M * Bertl you need to configure a vroot device for that and put the guest on a separate filesystem
1190725153 M * nou atm stable debian vserver enabled kernels don't have VROOT, so i recompile one with it
1190725215 J * Julius ~julius@p57B25BB3.dip.t-dialin.net
1190725243 M * nou i did the vroot thing as explained on http://linux-vserver.org/Standard_non-shared_quota
1190725271 M * nou but quotaon gives "Function not implemented"
1190725344 M * nou vroot /dev/vroot0 /dev/sdc1; usrquota,grpquota added to mtab, quota_ctl add to ccapabilities, /dev/vroot0 cp -af'ied to vservers' /dev
1190725401 M * daniel_hozac did you actually mount it with usrquota,grpqouta too?
1190725438 M * nou on the host ?
1190725484 M * daniel_hozac whereever it is you mount the filesystem.
1190725681 M * nou hmm you mean something like this "/dev/hdv1 / rw,usrquota,grpquota 0 0" should also be added to /etc/vservers/guest/fstab ?
1190725768 M * nou nah that won't work anyway
1190725802 M * nou on the guest, both mount and /proc/mount show / being mounted with usrquota,grpquota options
1190725872 M * nou i guess vroot was disabled by debian-kernel team for a reason, but can't find why
1190725945 M * daniel_hozac i doubt it. last time anyone asked about the configuration options, it was "it's the default".
1190726192 M * nou grep VROOT /boot/config-2.6.18-5-xen-vserver-amd64 
1190726199 M * nou # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_VROOT is not set
1190726230 M * nou seems it's back on testing/unstable kernels
1190726518 M * nou grrr, can't even try on an gutsy computer, there no more vserver enabled kernel atm
1190726937 M * fb_ daniel_hozac: vserver build removes (a lot of) symlinks from /etc/rc?.d/, is there a simple way to remove them from within a running vserver? It seems old tools didn't remove them (or the build process broke before that and i didn't notice)
1190726959 M * daniel_hozac fb_: it's new.
1190727004 M * daniel_hozac fb_: /usr/lib*/util-vserver/distributions/debian/initpost /etc/vservers/<guest> /usr/lib*/util-vserver/util-vserver-vars
1190727052 M * fb_ unfortunately i don't have access to a host
1190727082 M * daniel_hozac look at the script then, and retrace the steps.
1190727082 M * nou quotactl(Q_QUOTAON|USRQUOTA, "/dev/hdv1", 2, {7022360269181497135, 491328337198, 0, 33, 8531058147205669935, 49, 0, 129425}) = -1 ENOSYS (Function not implemented)
1190727082 M * fb_ but now i know which scripts to check, thanks :)
1190727092 M * nou nothing else i can check ?
1190727101 M * daniel_hozac nou: do you have the modules loaded for quota?
1190727735 M * nou yep
1190728060 M * nou i guess i'll have to try with another setup
1190728203 M * Bertl nou: what filesystem?
1190728298 M * nou xfs
1190728317 M * Bertl xfs uses a special quota system
1190728327 M * Bertl i.e. you need special quota tools to handle them IIRC
1190728342 M * Bertl also you have to enable quota separately for xfs
1190728353 M * nou oh that's true, i forgot about that
1190729899 Q * Julius Quit: Verlassend
1190729904 J * Julius ~julius@p57B25BB3.dip.t-dialin.net
1190730394 M * nou ohoh i don't what i've done, but  i can't start my vserver anymore => 'vcontext: execvp("/usr/sbin/vnamespace"): Permission denied'
1190730401 M * nou +know
1190730492 M * Bertl do you use dynamic contexts?
1190730958 M * nou i don't think sio
1190730976 M * Bertl what context id has your guest?
1190731032 J * Johnnie ~jdlewis@c-67-163-142-234.hsd1.pa.comcast.net
1190731241 M * nou no idea, if i don't have a guest/context, does it mean i'm using dyn context ?
1190731262 M * Bertl /etc/vservers/<guest-name>/context yes
1190731278 J * DavidS ~david@p57A486E4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
1190731283 M * Bertl which is really deprecated for exactly those reasons
1190731300 M * Bertl i.e. you must not use dynamic contexts on context tagged filesystems
1190731309 M * Bertl otherwise the guest will fail after restart
1190731338 M * nou anyway, i've put an arbitrary number in context, but that does change a thing
1190731345 M * nou i don't remember having tagged my fs
1190731367 M * nou maybe that was done when i was trying to have quota in the guest
1190731379 M * Bertl well, the fault might be something completely different, but it looks like
1190731396 M * Bertl check for 'tag', 'tagctx' and 'tagxid' flags for mounts
1190731418 M * Bertl also try to run the startup with --debug and upload the debug log somewhere
1190731923 J * julien-vserver ~jujux@lns-bzn-52-82-65-119-127.adsl.proxad.net
1190731932 M * julien-vserver hello
1190731964 Q * DavidS Quit: Leaving.
1190732016 M * Bertl welcome julien-vserver!
1190732026 M * julien-vserver thank you
1190732049 M * julien-vserver are you a bot ?
1190732067 M * Bertl a very smart one, based on wet-ware, why?
1190732110 M * julien-vserver not sure that a bot can answer to my question, but why nor 
1190732116 M * julien-vserver -nor +not
1190732131 M * nou Bertl: http://pastebin.ca/710434
1190732139 M * nou no tag/tagctx/tagxid flags
1190732189 M * julien-vserver i'm finishing to setup xorg in vserver, I readed all docs i can found but I can't solve this last problem
1190732285 M * Bertl nou: and /etc/init.d/rc inside the guest exists and is executable?
1190732294 M * Bertl julien-vserver: which is?
1190732304 M * julien-vserver when i'm on the terminal where x is running and I try to switch to the host terminal, I just see a zoomed corner of the desktop, X doesn't freeze as I can see my mouse
1190732340 M * Bertl so you are trying to switch consoles, yes?
1190732372 M * julien-vserver yes, I think so, with ctrl+alt+f1
1190732382 M * Bertl what ekrnel version?
1190732413 M * julien-vserver 2.6.18-5-vserverpowerpc from debian stable
1190732429 M * Bertl that's a quite old kernel :)
1190732457 M * Bertl let me see if I can dig out the source for a compareable kernel
1190732490 M * julien-vserver ok
1190732526 M * Bertl are you able to switch back blindly?
1190732551 M * Bertl and if, what happens if you use the switchto command?
1190732574 M * julien-vserver after the corner is zoomed I lost a big part of the control of X, I can't unzoom
1190732607 M * Bertl try to use C-A-F7 (or wherever X is supposed to be)
1190732649 M * Bertl also try to login as if you were on the fb console and  use the switchto (if installed)
1190732649 M * julien-vserver yeah, I tried but it doesn't work
1190732663 M * julien-vserver I can't find switchto in debian stable
1190732670 M * Bertl alternatively log in via ssh and execute it from there
1190732685 M * julien-vserver i'm already loged in by ssh
1190732686 M * Bertl console-tools orconsole-utils or so
1190732720 J * pmenier ~pmenier@LNeuilly-152-22-72-5.w193-251.abo.wanadoo.fr
1190732736 M * julien-vserver I searched with the web search engine in all sections in etch
1190732741 M * Supaplex julien-vserver: chvt
1190732757 M * julien-vserver thanks
1190732771 M * Bertl is that the package or do they call it chvt?
1190732831 M * julien-vserver chvt is in console-tools
1190732839 M * julien-vserver so maybe that's renamed
1190732899 M * Supaplex julien-vserver: my bad, was this for a debian host?
1190732946 M * julien-vserver yes
1190732968 M * Supaplex $ dpkg -S `which chvt`
1190732968 M * Supaplex console-tools: /usr/bin/chvt
1190733020 M * julien-vserver dpkg -S chvt work too
1190733057 M * Supaplex I'm use to being specific to eliminate possible white-noise
1190733063 M * julien-vserver ok
1190733065 M * Supaplex but yeah.
1190733096 M * julien-vserver stupid question, I need /dev/tty0 in my guest too ?
1190733097 Q * Julius Remote host closed the connection
1190733118 M * Bertl julien-vserver: that might be the case, depending on how the switching is done
1190733133 M * Supaplex unfamilar waters for me
1190733205 M * julien-vserver ok, I create the device and test
1190733225 M * Bertl julien-vserver: let's first check what actually happens and if chvt/switchto works
1190733230 M * nou Bertl: thanks for your time, in fact i'm messed up with my directories. in fact i moved my guest vdir at the top of of partitions mounted with nodev,noexec,nosuid
1190733245 M * Bertl nou: okay, np! :)
1190733256 M * julien-vserver #chvt 0 => Couldnt get a file descriptor referring to the console
1190733270 M * nou now i can carry on trying to have quota in the guest~
1190733272 M * Bertl not inside the guest, on the host
1190733280 M * julien-vserver oh ok
1190733329 M * Bertl check that this brings back the X11. and can switch to e.g. console 0 sucessfully
1190733351 M * Bertl then, try to strace -fF it on the host, and try to do the same on the guest
1190733351 M * julien-vserver $ su -c ""chvt 0" => chvt: VT_ACTIVATE: No such device or address
1190733383 M * Bertl I think the chvt requires a terminal, where switchto only uses the id
1190733406 M * Bertl also  ""chvt 0" looks strange?
1190733411 M * julien-vserver synopsis : chvt N
1190733465 J * Julius ~julius@p57B25BB3.dip.t-dialin.net
1190733563 M * Bertl http://paste.linux-vserver.org/6754
1190733567 Q * sharkjaw Quit: Leaving
1190733680 M * julien-vserver stupid my try with chvt 0 :/ , I tried with chvt 1 chvt 7 but doesn't help
1190733719 M * Bertl so it looks like for some reason your terminal switching doesn't work at all?
1190733738 M * Bertl note that I still would go for 'switchto' :)
1190733773 M * Bertl also note that I'm not using debian here :)
1190733776 M * julien-vserver but it works great on the host
1190733785 M * Bertl the chvt?
1190733809 M * julien-vserver alt+fN
1190733833 M * Bertl well, something the X11 is doing on that sequence does _not_ work
1190733841 M * julien-vserver I think so
1190733851 M * Bertl we can fix that if we figure _what_ that is :)
1190733869 M * Bertl but you definitely don't want to strace -fF X11 :)
1190733874 M * julien-vserver I check with strace
1190733887 M * julien-vserver hehe, I'm snailman
1190733892 M * Bertl so it would be smart to figure how to switch with a simple command like switchto or chvt
1190733925 M * Bertl maybe reboot the machine to get into a consistant state and try chvt then
1190733944 M * Bertl first, with strace -fFon the host, then from inside a guest
1190733998 M * julien-vserver not sure how can I strace from the host
1190734027 M * julien-vserver i try in the guest
1190734051 M * Bertl strace -fF -o switchto.trace switchto 1
1190734065 M * Bertl (once on the host and once on the guest .)
1190734076 M * Bertl okay, off for dinner now .. back shortly ...
1190734083 N * Bertl Bertl_oO
1190734292 M * nou ok, ext3 quota activated in vserver :) have to play with xfs now :)
1190734379 Q * jmcarica` Remote host closed the connection
1190735239 N * Bertl_oO Bertl
1190735242 M * Bertl back now ...
1190735244 M * julien-vserver ok
1190735256 Q * comfrey Quit: leaving
1190735269 M * julien-vserver I gain control again on my computer when I kill X
1190735286 Q * ensc Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1190735392 M * julien-vserver what i mean is chvt works on host when X has been killed
1190735401 M * julien-vserver and never works in guest
1190735412 M * Bertl okay, then let's get an strace from host and guest
1190735594 M * julien-vserver hummm, chvt doesn't work in guest, same message (Couldnt get a file descriptor referring to the console)
1190735653 M * Bertl excellent, do you have the straces of both?
1190735661 M * Bertl if so, please upload them
1190735669 M * Bertl e.g. paste.linux-vserver.org
1190735924 Q * _gh_ Quit: Client exiting
1190735981 Q * JonB Read error: Connection reset by peer
1190736373 J * ensc ~irc-ensc@p54B4D492.dip.t-dialin.net
1190736532 J * bonbons ~bonbons@2001:960:7ab:0:20b:5dff:fec7:6b33
1190736579 M * julien-vserver that's done
1190736748 M * Bertl looks identical, sure that one fails?
1190736801 M * Bertl especially, there is none of the beforementioned error messages outputed
1190736801 M * julien-vserver i hope I didn't any mistake
1190736845 M * julien-vserver exact
1190736850 M * julien-vserver hummm
1190736900 M * julien-vserver i can send two others with X down
1190736931 M * julien-vserver and  I was wrong, I gain control again when X is correctly finished
1190736976 M * julien-vserver if it zoomed on a corner and kill it, I don't gain control, I need to restart it and kill it properly
1190737053 M * Bertl aha? so it's not the terminal switching which fails?
1190737097 M * julien-vserver probably
1190737109 M * julien-vserver what do you suggest ? an strace of x ?
1190737122 M * julien-vserver that will be unreadable for human I think
1190737173 M * Bertl mostly I guess, unless you find the exact spot
1190737174 M * julien-vserver and sorry if I wasn't clear enough before
1190737192 M * julien-vserver ok
1190737202 M * julien-vserver so let's go, snailman in action
1190737213 J * _jmcaricand_zzz ~jmcarican@d77-217-5-204.cust.tele2.fr
1190737225 J * |jmcaricand|_ ~jmcarican@d77-217-5-204.cust.tele2.fr
1190737245 Q * |jmcaricand|_ 
1190737300 M * julien-vserver do you think that's usefull something like #strace -fF -o X-host.trace vserver template exec startx -- vt7 ?
1190737356 M * Bertl no, because you cannot strace across context boundaries
1190737369 M * Bertl but you could put the strace right before the startx
1190737390 M * julien-vserver ok
1190737395 M * Bertl although I would attach to X when it is already running
1190737484 M * julien-vserver I kill strace when I tried ctrl+alt+f1
1190737680 M * julien-vserver does it to many 1.2M of trace ?
1190737690 M * julien-vserver I can try to have less
1190737746 M * Bertl it's important that you get a trace of the relevant 'switch' for a working and a non working case
1190737819 M * julien-vserver the problem is that I don't have find a case when the switch works
1190737838 M * Bertl hmm? I thought it works on the host?
1190737904 M * julien-vserver only between tty1 to tty6 and when X in guest isn't started
1190737958 M * Bertl well, if it doesn't work on the host, then it is an X11 issue
1190737965 M * Bertl (and not really Linux-VServer related)
1190738091 M * julien-vserver but X launched in host works
1190738103 M * Bertl then do that and strace it :)
1190738119 M * julien-vserver ok, i didn't understand
1190738223 M * julien-vserver apt-get is installing x
1190738718 J * Greek0 ~greek0@85.255.145.201
1190738727 Q * Greek0 
1190739377 Q * pmenier Quit: pmenier
1190739449 M * julien-vserver startx doesn't seem to work with strace on host
1190739471 M * Bertl as I suggested, attach when X is already running
1190739479 M * Bertl saves you huge amount of useless traces
1190739494 M * julien-vserver I really need to improve my english
1190739546 M * julien-vserver i don't know how to attach
1190739585 M * Bertl strace -fF -p <pid> (see man strace)
1190739587 J * FireEgl FireEgl@4.0.0.0.1.0.0.0.c.d.4.8.0.c.5.0.1.0.0.2.ip6.arpa
1190739610 M * julien-vserver oh, I'm tired, I searched in Xorg manpage...
1190739618 Q * ema Quit: leaving
1190739631 Q * Fire_Egl Read error: Connection reset by peer
1190739685 M * julien-vserver ok, I will "restrace" in guest too with pid
1190739840 J * hparker ~hparker@linux.homershut.net
1190740088 M * julien-vserver I attach strace to /usr/bin/X and not xinit ? are we agree?
1190740104 M * Bertl yes, I'd say so
1190740247 Q * bonbons Quit: Leaving
1190740473 M * julien-vserver just need to upload
1190740542 M * Bertl maybe put it as bz2 somewhere?
1190740657 M * julien-vserver they are 19k and 53k, do you think that's too many for paste.linux-vserver.org ?
1190740672 M * Bertl try it, you'll see :)
1190740678 M * julien-vserver ok
1190740867 M * julien-vserver ok, I see "<unfinished...>"
1190741015 M * julien-vserver I put them on a ftp
1190741049 M * Bertl okay
1190741076 Q * Piet Remote host closed the connection
1190741456 M * dilinger Bertl: erm, i lost the url you posted the other day...
1190741460 M * dilinger Bertl: mind posting it again?
1190741463 M * dilinger the olpc update patch
1190741488 M * julien-vserver http://etudiant.univ-mlv.fr/~jcerquei/vserver/
1190741498 M * Bertl dilinger: http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Stuff/OLPC/delta-vsOLPC.0.4.5.diff
1190741630 M * dilinger Bertl: great, thanks!
1190741654 M * Bertl you're welcome! 
1190741683 M * julien-vserver erf, <unfinished...> are in my traces...
1190741690 M * Bertl dilinger: note, those are against the vserver branch, because I though you kept that one in sync with the master branch
1190741704 J * Piet ~piet@tor.noreply.org
1190741759 M * dilinger Bertl: that's correct, the vserver branch is basically what we're using
1190741771 M * Bertl okay, then it should be perfect
1190741884 M * dilinger hooray for perfect patches
1190741955 M * Bertl julien-vserver: and do we know _when_ you switched in that trace?
1190742013 M * julien-vserver in X-host we see  7176  write(2, "RADEONLeaveVT\n", 14)   = 14
1190742022 M * julien-vserver but not in guest
1190742057 M * julien-vserver that correspond as what i can see in terminal when I switch
1190742058 J * _gh_ ~gerrit@c-67-169-199-103.hsd1.or.comcast.net
1190742131 M * Bertl ioctl(4, VIDIOC_G_COMP or VT_ACTIVATE, 0x1)
1190742138 M * Bertl this seems to be common
1190742289 M * Bertl but to be honest, I don't see anything failing
1190742368 M * julien-vserver in guest I have just after the line you mentionned, a sigreturn but in host I have a rt_sigaction between the sigreturn and the mentionned line
1190742464 M * daniel_hozac hmm.
1190742477 M * daniel_hozac could this be a tty signal reach problem again?
1190742512 M * daniel_hozac or wait, this is on an old kernel, right?
1190742519 M * julien-vserver 2.6.18
1190742527 M * Bertl as I said, would be smart to try with a recent kernel too
1190742547 M * julien-vserver hummm, ok, I will do
1190742575 M * Bertl not sure that will fix anything, but it could be
1190742581 M * daniel_hozac yeah, i think this should be fixed.
1190742594 M * daniel_hozac i don't remember exactly when we fixed it, but it wasn't too long ago.
1190742605 M * julien-vserver you corrected a problem related with tty ?
1190742606 M * Bertl as I do not really see _what_ is happening here, I can't tell :)
1190742630 M * Bertl but yes, a tty signalling issue was fixe somewhere around 2.6.19
1190742633 M * Bertl or 2.6.20
1190742745 M * julien-vserver ok, that will be an occasion for me to see if debian activated software_suspend with vserver on recent kernel
1190742773 M * daniel_hozac 2.6.20.4-vs2.2.0-rc21/2.6.19.7-vs2.2.0-rc21 should contain the fix, IIRC.
1190742842 M * julien-vserver I take a pause and I will try to upgrade to the last vserver-kernel in debian unstable without to upgrade the system
1190742870 M * Bertl julien-vserver: maybe compile the kernel yourself?
1190742887 M * Bertl you'll need to do that anyways if we find/fix a bug, no=
1190742890 M * Bertl s/=/?
1190742905 M * daniel_hozac or just wait for it to hit Debian stable in ~3-4 years? :)
1190742910 M * Bertl lol
1190742920 M * julien-vserver ok
1190742933 M * julien-vserver ahahah
1190743014 M * julien-vserver as I'm writing a detailed documentation I will do the compilation today and not wait 3-4 years
1190743117 M * julien-vserver I came here some months ago to ask about vserver in vserver, and someone asked me why I would do this thing and I didn't give an answer as I didn't really think about this question
1190743172 M * julien-vserver I think we can see vservers guest as node of a network which each of them offers one or more services
1190743233 M * Bertl s/vserver/X11/?
1190743265 M * julien-vserver no, I think in general
1190743298 M * julien-vserver and we can see the node which offer vservers as what it is, a node
1190743312 J * igraltista ~jens@p4FD25F03.dip.t-dialin.net
1190743321 M * julien-vserver but I read more since that time
1190743374 M * julien-vserver and what I understand that's not interesting at least in security point of vue as we will need to many capabilities for the vserver host
1190743391 M * julien-vserver am I wrong ?
1190743426 M * julien-vserver am I clear ? :)
1190743554 M * Bertl I don't understand what the vservers in vservers part has to do with that?
1190743574 M * julien-vserver with my xorg problem ? any...
1190743618 M * daniel_hozac speaking of guests within guests, why do we have two flags for that?
1190743635 M * daniel_hozac there's VXF_INFO_LOCK, and VXF_PROLIFIC.
1190743768 M * julien-vserver time to eat, read you later
1190744167 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: nostalgia?
1190744188 M * daniel_hozac heh.
1190744273 M * Bertl IIRC, we had a reason for a new flag
1190744286 M * Bertl because the meaning of the old one wasn't clear with 2.4 or so
1190744359 Q * rorem- Remote host closed the connection
1190744664 J * rorem- ~roremtank@bzq-219-46-202.isdn.bezeqint.net
1190744761 Q * igraltista Read error: Connection reset by peer
1190745770 Q * eSa| Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1190746245 M * julien-vserver don't wait for me, i'm looking a movie, i will test the kernels this night
1190746293 M * Bertl hehe, np, have fun!
1190746307 M * julien-vserver thanks :)
1190746332 M * derjohn daniel_hozac, FYI: http://blog.derjohn.de/snipsnap/space/start/2007-09-25/1
1190746696 Q * quasisane Remote host closed the connection
1190747222 Q * rorem- Read error: Connection reset by peer
1190747616 J * meandtheshell ~markus@85-127-116-230.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at
1190747715 J * rorem- ~roremtank@bzq-219-46-202.isdn.bezeqint.net
1190748308 M * derjohn in case or lurkers: i just found a bug in my package and updated in-place.
1190748720 J * DavidS ~david@193.170.138.34
1190750161 M * Supaplex gah. armada:~# vserver build build -m yum -- -d help
1190750165 A * Supaplex looks it up
1190750204 M * Bertl vserver - build --help 
1190750332 M * Supaplex I was looking for the distros I can build from.
1190750349 M * Supaplex the wiki had a mailing list post that mentions /usr/lib/util-vserver/distributions
1190750371 M * Supaplex looks like I'll go with fc6, after I figure out what /etc/rpm is for
1190750389 M * Bertl for storing rpm defaults :)
1190750417 M * Supaplex armada:~# vserver squid_guru-labs build -m yum -- -d fc6
1190750423 M * Supaplex mount: mount point /etc/rpm does not exist
1190750438 M * Supaplex nothing in /etc/vservers - so It's empty.
1190750440 M * Bertl mkdir /etc/rpm
1190750448 M * Bertl or get a proper rpm package :)
1190750473 M * Bertl (the debian one is incomplete)
1190750580 M * daniel_hozac and you'd better use f7...
1190750697 Q * Julius Quit: Verlassend
1190750872 M * julien-vserver a debian rpm package ?
1190751014 M * Supaplex yeah debian has rpm and yum. I think I'll test with lenny. hopefully the squid exercise I'm researching will not have major differences on fc/rhel/sles
1190751070 M * Supaplex ii  rpm                     4.4.1-13                Red Hat package manager
1190751070 M * Supaplex ii  yum                     2.4.0-3.1               Advanced front-end for rpm
1190751094 M * julien-vserver ok, i didn't understand, i though about an .rpm
1190751108 M * julien-vserver erf, disk controler failure on my dev station
1190751146 M * Supaplex the host is on debian, but I was interested in setting up a fc guest. (nothing production, and certianly not remotely accessible in any way)
1190751158 M * julien-vserver ok
1190751357 J * |jmcaricand|_ ~jmcarican@d83-179-246-117.cust.tele2.fr
1190751369 Q * |jmcaricand|_ 
1190751468 M * julien-vserver my disk controler seems to work sometime, I stop for this evening, I will backup tomorrow (the last version of the doc on vserver is stored on)
1190751487 J * yarihm ~yarihm@84-75-130-73.dclient.hispeed.ch
1190751729 M * Bertl okay, off to bed now ... have a good one everyone!
1190751734 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ
1190751762 Q * _jmcaricand_zzz Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1190751781 M * Supaplex sleep well
1190751798 M * julien-vserver about that doc, and even if I can't switch from xorg in a guest to a terminal in the host, I can start x without CAP_SYS_RAWIO and /dev/mem
1190751907 M * julien-vserver thanks bertl for your help  and your tutorial on strace usage , I will post my results here tomorrow
1190752593 M * julien-vserver good night all, read you tomorrow
1190752599 Q * julien-vserver Quit: Leaving.
1190752624 Q * ktwilight_ Read error: Connection reset by peer
1190752736 J * ktwilight ~ktwilight@168.81-66-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be
1190752745 M * ktwilight it's annoying that my pc crashes quite often now :/
1190752784 M * Supaplex it's also annoying when hardware dies
1190752791 M * ktwilight if only it's true.
1190752798 A * Supaplex has lost 3 machines recently
1190752802 M * ktwilight :(
1190752819 M * ktwilight is doing a cpu burn-in test any good?
1190752840 M * ktwilight i did memtest, and all seems well. only thing i haven't done is cpu burn-in AND fsck my hdds
1190752861 M * ktwilight oops, wrong channel :)
1190752891 M * Supaplex hehe
1190752905 M * Supaplex yeah um test that guest memory. make sure it's good! ;)
1190752958 M * Supaplex ouu and those guest cpus to.
1190753291 J * Aiken ~james@ppp121-45-249-108.lns2.bne4.internode.on.net
1190753309 M * ktwilight Supaplex, how would i do that?
1190753348 M * Supaplex it's a joke mostly.
1190753356 M * ktwilight :)
1190753361 M * Supaplex memtest has a user space program
1190753394 M * Supaplex dunno if the others to. afaik they just run their own optimized set of toasty instructions to get the cpu hotter and stress it out
1190753401 M * Supaplex if it fails, you know there's something to fix
1190753428 M * Supaplex hopefully cpu burn-in just bails out with a nice little panic vs damaging hardware
1190753699 M * ktwilight hm, will try it out when i'm done with all these :)
1190753709 M * ktwilight but then, maybe it's beryl :(
1190753735 M * ktwilight though i've put it all down to the minimum
1190754295 Q * dna Quit: Verlassend
1190755026 Q * meandtheshell Quit: Leaving.
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1190757917 A * Supaplex growls at klogd
1190759063 N * click_ click
1190760608 Q * edible Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1190760987 Q * yarihm Quit: Leaving
1190762040 J * ktwilight_ ~ktwilight@168.81-66-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be
1190762083 J * ruskie_ ruskie@goatse.co.uk
1190762164 J * esa ~esa@ip-87-238-2-45.adsl.cheapnet.it
1190762173 N * esa eSa|
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