1190419357 Q * meandtheshell Quit: Leaving. 1190419709 Q * bonbons Quit: Leaving 1190421553 J * virtuoso ~s0t0na@ppp91-122-26-76.pppoe.avangard-dsl.ru 1190421961 Q * virtuoso_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1190421985 Q * coderanger_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1190422093 Q * roym Remote host closed the connection 1190423551 Q * deevilcat Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1190425983 J * stephenbell ~stephenbe@c211-28-60-223.eburwd8.vic.optusnet.com.au 1190426057 Q * stephenbell 1190431408 Q * Aiken Quit: Leaving 1190431837 J * Aiken ~james@ppp121-45-250-174.lns2.bne4.internode.on.net 1190433319 Q * quasisane Remote host closed the connection 1190434425 M * Supaplex la la laa laaaaa laa 1190434446 M * Supaplex Borg-: they're infotrons man. 1190435329 Q * shardz_ez Quit: Leaving 1190435845 J * |jmcaricand|_ ~jmcarican@d83-179-176-209.cust.tele2.fr 1190440841 J * Julius ~julius@p57B261A4.dip.t-dialin.net 1190440883 Q * Julius 1190440888 J * Julius ~julius@p57B261A4.dip.t-dialin.net 1190440916 M * Julius guten morgen 1190442568 M * eyck guten morgen krasnoludken 1190443862 Q * Julius Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1190444042 Q * igraltista Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1190444365 J * JonB ~NoSuchUse@kg1-20.kollegiegaarden.dk 1190445417 J * igraltista ~jens@p4FD26CB6.dip.t-dialin.net 1190445505 M * matti Morning :) 1190445595 M * JonB hi 1190445878 J * Julius ~julius@p57B261A4.dip.t-dialin.net 1190446213 Q * JonB Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1190446236 J * JonB ~NoSuchUse@kg0-231.kollegiegaarden.dk 1190446507 Q * Julius Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1190447826 J * dna ~dna@131-231-dsl.kielnet.net 1190449847 J * bonbons ~bonbons@2001:960:7ab:0:20b:5dff:fec7:6b33 1190450838 Q * |jmcaricand|_ Quit: KVIrc 3.2.4 Anomalies http://www.kvirc.net/ 1190452602 J * friendly12345 ~friendly@ppp121-44-239-215.lns2.mel4.internode.on.net 1190453528 J * meandtheshell ~markus@85.127.117.79 1190455897 Q * virtuoso Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1190456070 J * |jmcaricand|_ ~jmcarican@d90-144-60-23.cust.tele2.fr 1190456389 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl 1190456398 M * Bertl morning folks! 1190456404 M * matti B. 1190456405 M * matti ;] 1190456448 M * JonB hey Bertl 1190457643 M * epicbjorn obv moving a server without checking that it was off was a nonsmart thing to do. 1190457693 M * epicbjorn now some of my dirs won't delete stating the device/resource is busy 1190457715 M * daniel_hozac just unmount them. 1190457733 M * epicbjorn not mounted. 1190457907 M * Bertl mounted inside the guest 1190457917 M * Bertl i.e. force kill the guest first 1190457947 J * duckx ~Duck@tox.dyndns.org 1190458372 Q * duckx Remote host closed the connection 1190458418 J * ||Cobra|| ~cob@pc-csa01.science.uva.nl 1190458783 Q * matled Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1190458906 M * epicbjorn well, there ain't no guest there anymore 1190459014 M * Bertl epicbjorn: how did you check? 1190459048 J * virtuoso ~s0t0na@ppp91-122-103-236.pppoe.avangard-dsl.ru 1190459068 M * epicbjorn vserver-stat? the thing is there's only one guest present, and it's been started from the new location and is pretty critical (can't kill it at this time) 1190459095 J * matled ~matled@85.131.246.184 1190459100 M * Bertl wb matled! 1190459114 M * Bertl epicbjorn: well, so vserver-stat doesn't show the xid of the old guest, yes? 1190459131 M * Bertl epicbjorn: what kernel/tools are you using? 1190459186 M * epicbjorn (root(in)heaven(services)) uname -r;vserver --version 1190459186 M * epicbjorn 2.6.21.6-heaven-vs2.2.0.3 1190459187 M * epicbjorn vserver 0.30.213 -- manages the state of vservers 1190459278 M * Bertl okay, did you explicitely disable namespaces 1190459280 M * Bertl ? 1190459304 M * epicbjorn I'd have to check 1190459417 M * Bertl because otherwise, the mounts of the guest should vanish when the last process of that guest exits 1190459479 Q * Aiken Quit: Leaving 1190459886 M * Bertl epicbjorn: check /proc/mounts on the host too, maybe you did mount something there? 1190459996 Q * JonB Quit: This computer has gone to sleep 1190460175 J * Piet ~piet@tor.noreply.org 1190460329 M * epicbjorn nope, nothing mounted there.. that's what frustrates me 1190460346 M * epicbjorn to hell with it.. I'll just remove it after reboot next week 1190460658 M * Bertl did you unmount stuff on the host since you started the other guest? 1190460695 M * Bertl maybe you have processes running in one of those dirs? 1190460729 M * epicbjorn lsof says the dir is clean.. 1190460780 M * |jmcaricand|_ Hi Bert: does 2.2.0 release remap 127.0.0.1 automaticly ? 1190460854 M * daniel_hozac 1.2+ remap 127.0.0.1 automatically... 1190460859 M * daniel_hozac (at least) 1190461333 J * nou Chaton@causse.larzac.fr.eu.org 1190462115 J * JonB ~NoSuchUse@kg0-231.kollegiegaarden.dk 1190464750 J * Radiance 39ce623870@halt.1984world.eu 1190465302 Q * JonB Quit: This computer has gone to sleep 1190465422 J * JonB ~NoSuchUse@kg0-231.kollegiegaarden.dk 1190465594 J * duckx ~Duck@tox.dyndns.org 1190465617 Q * JonB 1190465669 Q * duckx Remote host closed the connection 1190465681 M * matti Does anybody know, how to force libtool to link executable statically? 1190465697 J * duckx ~Duck@tox.dyndns.org 1190466363 Q * igraltista Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1190466661 J * igraltista ~jens@p4FD26CB6.dip.t-dialin.net 1190466832 Q * Piet Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1190467155 M * epicbjorn what could be wrong when i keep getting a permission denied on everything, even though permissions are correctly set? 1190467171 P * friendly12345 1190467192 M * daniel_hozac doing what? 1190467197 M * epicbjorn doing stuff non-root 1190467199 M * epicbjorn in a guest 1190467236 M * epicbjorn (root@enduron:etc) su - bjorn 1190467236 M * epicbjorn su: warning: cannot change directory to /home/bjorn: Permission denied 1190467236 M * epicbjorn su: /bin/bash: Permission denied 1190467254 M * daniel_hozac and, ls -ld / in the guest says what? 1190467297 M * epicbjorn perms are 755 if that's what you're after 1190467317 M * Bertl chances are good that you have a barrier on the guest root 1190467329 M * Bertl (which is wrong :) 1190467333 M * daniel_hozac that should block root too though. 1190467704 M * Bertl hmm, right, 0 permission is more likely 1190467768 M * Bertl could also be a tagging issue on certain files 1190468012 Q * bonbons Quit: Leaving 1190468316 J * igraltista_ ~jens@p4FD26CB6.dip.t-dialin.net 1190468506 M * igraltista_ hi 1190468520 M * igraltista_ i get this when i try to start the vguset 1190468522 M * igraltista_ WARNING: --nid is not supported by this version 1190468522 M * igraltista_ chbind: kernel does not provide network isolation 1190468565 M * daniel_hozac are you running a vserver kernel? 1190468577 M * igraltista_ hmm yes i think 1190468598 M * daniel_hozac what does http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Stuff/SCRIPT/testme.sh output? (use paste.linux-vserver.org) 1190468643 Q * igraltista Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1190468850 M * igraltista_ http://paste.linux-vserver.org/6680 1190468896 M * daniel_hozac why did you enable the legacy version in the kernel? 1190468925 M * igraltista_ give this the error? 1190468929 M * daniel_hozac yes. 1190468933 M * igraltista_ ok 1190468938 M * daniel_hozac since you didn't include the legacy APIs in the utils. 1190468974 M * igraltista_ i build a new kernel because i need somethink more and than i enable also this 1190468981 M * daniel_hozac why? 1190469001 M * daniel_hozac the help text is pretty explicit in that it will cause problems... 1190469055 M * igraltista_ than only the utils are to old? 1190469067 M * daniel_hozac no. 1190469089 M * daniel_hozac the _only_ time you want to enable the legacy version is if you have really, really, _really_ old utils. 1190469090 M * Bertl 'legacy' means 'left over from ancient times' :) 1190469166 M * matti By aliens... 10000 years ago. 1190469166 M * matti ;p 1190469179 M * igraltista_ ah i have the version 2.* 1190469224 M * igraltista_ i read only compatible and i was think it cannot bad :) 1190469250 M * daniel_hozac dude, it says: 1190469250 M * daniel_hozac Warning: recent tools are not able to utilize the 1190469251 M * daniel_hozac newer APIs when this is enabled, so some features will 1190469251 M * daniel_hozac not be available. Better avoid it, unless you really, 1190469251 M * daniel_hozac really need it for backwards compatibility. 1190469265 M * daniel_hozac i really don't see how it could get any clearer. 1190469270 M * igraltista_ hmm this i dont have 1190469297 M * igraltista_ a point later this i dont read 1190469310 J * phedny_ ~mark@ip56538143.direct-adsl.nl 1190469350 M * matti daniel_hozac: You should change this to "Don't tuch... BAM BAM KABOOM if miss-used" :) 1190469359 M * matti s/tuch/touch ;p 1190469380 N * phedny Guest862 1190469380 N * phedny_ phedny 1190469394 M * Bertl well, everybody is free to mess up their system :) 1190469413 M * igraltista_ yes and produce some traffic in the channel :) 1190469470 M * matti Bertl: Hehee. 1190469712 Q * Guest862 Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1190470306 J * theo__ ~jens@p4FD26CB6.dip.t-dialin.net 1190470559 J * igraltista ~jens@p4FD26CB6.dip.t-dialin.net 1190470573 J * Piet ~piet@tor.noreply.org 1190470653 Q * igraltista_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1190470861 Q * theo__ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1190471336 Q * zLinux Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1190471416 J * Pazzo ~ugelt@reserved-225136.rol.raiffeisen.net 1190472032 J * dreamind ~dreamind@C2107.campino.wh.tu-darmstadt.de 1190472067 Q * dreamind 1190472070 J * dreamind ~dreamind@C2107.campino.wh.tu-darmstadt.de 1190472078 M * dreamind Hi 1190472109 N * dreamind Guest866 1190472222 J * zLinux ~zLinux@88.213.37.217 1190472777 Q * baldy Server closed connection 1190472790 J * baldy baldy@brain.servercrew.de 1190472895 M * eyck daniel brokes someone else system again? and denies resposibility? 1190472898 M * eyck same old, same old 1190473173 J * Julius ~julius@p57B261A4.dip.t-dialin.net 1190474398 M * matti eyck: As usual ;] 1190474473 Q * mountie Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1190475954 N * ensc Guest871 1190475964 J * ensc ~irc-ensc@p54B4E93E.dip.t-dialin.net 1190476073 Q * Guest871 Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1190476559 J * igraltista_ ~jens@p4FD26CB6.dip.t-dialin.net 1190476901 Q * igraltista Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1190477386 Q * |jmcaricand|_ Quit: KVIrc 3.2.4 Anomalies http://www.kvirc.net/ 1190477503 Q * igraltista_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1190477630 Q * emtty Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1190477831 Q * Guest866 Quit: Guest866 1190479893 J * quasisane ~sanep@c-76-118-191-64.hsd1.nh.comcast.net 1190479982 Q * Julius Remote host closed the connection 1190480012 J * Julius ~julius@p57B261A4.dip.t-dialin.net 1190480436 J * igraltista ~jens@p4FD26CB6.dip.t-dialin.net 1190481801 J * julius_ ~julius@p57B24D6B.dip.t-dialin.net 1190482237 Q * Julius Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1190482459 J * Piet_ ~piet@tor.noreply.org 1190482862 Q * Piet Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1190483351 Q * Baby Remote host closed the connection 1190483890 J * |jmcaricand|_ ~jmcarican@d90-144-60-23.cust.tele2.fr 1190483984 Q * yang Server closed connection 1190483998 J * yang yang@static-ip-62-75-255-124.inaddr.intergenia.de 1190484390 J * Baby ~miry@195.37.62.208 1190485989 Q * meandtheshell Quit: Leaving. 1190486104 Q * |jmcaricand|_ Quit: KVIrc 3.2.4 Anomalies http://www.kvirc.net/ 1190486443 J * JonB ~NoSuchUse@kg0-231.kollegiegaarden.dk 1190487680 Q * nebuchadnezzar Server closed connection 1190487765 J * Linus ~Linus@bl7-139-64.dsl.telepac.pt 1190487863 Q * FireEgl Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1190488793 Q * JonB Quit: This computer has gone to sleep 1190489083 J * FireEgl FireEgl@4.0.0.0.1.0.0.0.c.d.4.8.0.c.5.0.1.0.0.2.ip6.arpa 1190489290 J * igraltista_ ~jens@p4FD27666.dip.t-dialin.net 1190489318 Q * igraltista Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1190489495 J * igraltista ~jens@p4FD27666.dip.t-dialin.net 1190489593 Q * igraltista_ Read error: Connection reset by peer 1190490852 Q * igraltista Read error: Connection reset by peer 1190490879 J * igraltista ~jens@p4FD27666.dip.t-dialin.net 1190492425 Q * julius_ Remote host closed the connection 1190492581 Q * Baby Quit: KVIrc 3.2.0 'Realia' 1190492687 J * nebuchadnezzar ~nebu@zion.asgardr.info 1190492752 J * Baby ~miry@195.37.62.208 1190493833 J * bopper bopper@81-226-239-168-no61.business.telia.com 1190493918 M * bopper hi I'm having some trouble with vserver on a debian system, I keep geting this error 1190493921 M * bopper vattribute: vc_set_ccaps(): Interrupted system call 1190493922 M * bopper vattribute: vc_set_ccaps(): Interrupted system call 1190493945 M * Bertl sounds strange ... what tools? 1190493978 M * bopper util-vserver-0.30.214 1190494004 M * Bertl did you compile them yourself? 1190494008 M * bopper yes 1190494070 M * Bertl could you upload the output of 'vserver-info - SYSINFO' to paste.linux-vserver.org? 1190494395 M * bopper http://paste.linux-vserver.org/6696 1190494424 M * Bertl Use dietlibc: no (you have been warned) 1190494438 M * Bertl grab dietlibc and rebuild 1190494568 M * bopper thanks missed that 1190494723 J * mountie ~mountie@trb229.travel-net.com 1190494746 M * bopper im still getting the same error 1190494778 M * Bertl but the vserver-info above shows dietlibc? 1190494784 M * bopper yes 1190494797 M * bopper output from testme.sh 1190494802 M * bopper Linux 2.6.22.6-vs2.2.0.3 #1 Sat Sep 22 20:29:27 CEST 2007 ppc 1190494802 M * bopper Ea 0.30.214 257/fallback (DSa) 1190494802 M * bopper VCI: 0002:0200 257 030007b3 (TbLgsPHIW) 1190494886 M * Bertl hmm, maybe gcc is broken on powerpc/debian ... give me a few minutes to try 0.30.214 here 1190494898 M * bopper okay thanks 1190494990 M * Bertl is that ppc or ppc64? 1190495057 M * bopper i don't know it's a macmini G4 1190495104 M * Bertl so that should be ppc then 1190495136 M * bopper ya i would think so 1190495138 M * Bertl what version is dietlibc? 1190495162 M * bopper 0.30-4 1190495182 M * Bertl hmm, okay, any chance you have a 3.3 gcc too? 1190495193 M * Bertl (just to test something) 1190495208 M * bopper gcc (GCC) 4.1.2 20061115 (prerelease) (Debian 4.1.1-21) 1190495247 M * Bertl ah, so it's a 4.1.1 gcc .. hmm 1190495323 M * Bertl anyway, I will test the tools on a powerbook Ti shortly 1190495340 M * Bertl (just have to recompile a 2.2 kernel there) 1190495354 M * bopper hehe =) 1190495642 Q * ex Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1190495788 J * dowdle ~dowdle@65-100-76-203.blng.qwest.net 1190495796 M * Bertl welcome dowdle! 1190495804 M * dowdle I found my way here. :) 1190495821 M * dowdle So, is there a "Quick Start Guide" or some similiar pragmatic guide? 1190495836 M * dowdle I installed CentOS 5 on my wife's machine and got Linux-VServer going. 1190495846 M * hparker Was it a long, frightful path? 1190495847 M * dowdle And installed a CentOS 5 VPS. 1190495865 M * dowdle hparker: Well, I haven't been on irc.oftc.net before. 1190495872 M * Bertl dowdle: so you already done most of the stuff :) 1190495892 M * dowdle Bertl: Yeah, but I'd like to better understand where things are on the hn. Configs, VPS filesystems, etc. 1190495914 M * dowdle I'd like to see where it stores info about the yum repos... as I run my own (not here at home but at work anyway). 1190495917 M * Bertl configuration is in /etc/vservers 1190495922 M * dowdle I'm sure I can muttle my way through by fishing around. 1190495932 M * Bertl http://linux-vserver.org/Documentation 1190495934 M * dowdle But it would be nice if there were a quick start guide to spoon feed me. : 1190495948 M * dowdle Yeah, I've looked at the documentation section of the website. 1190495970 M * dowdle I'll continue to look around... but most of it is geared toward the technology and not a lot of practical use. 1190495996 M * Bertl well, the practical use is quite simple (at least we think so) 1190496013 M * Bertl check out 'vserver --help' and 'vserver - build --help' 1190496020 M * dowdle Ok. 1190496022 M * dowdle Will do. 1190496029 M * Bertl and have a look at the util-vserver config pages 1190496096 M * Bertl and of course, feel free to ask if something is unclear 1190496119 M * Bertl (the irc channel is the main source of information) 1190496120 M * dowdle Bertl: Let me just say that... well... I do appreciate the high level and completeness of the documentation on the site... but would like a Quick Start Guide to get me started. Pardon me wining... in a couple of hours I'll be happy. 1190496145 M * dowdle err.. wining = whining. 1190496157 M * dowdle Bertl: So you are Herbert? 1190496170 M * dowdle Or another Herbert (I see the topic set message) 1190496188 M * Bertl I'm herbert, yes :) 1190496215 M * Bertl http://linux-vserver.org/Building_Guest_Systems 1190496224 M * dowdle Ok, well cool. At least I didn't (I don't think) embarris(sp?) myself too much. :) 1190496289 M * dowdle So, I see the pre-created guests. If I download one or two of those (eventually I build my own), do I put those anywhere in particular on my hn filesystem? For example in OVZ, they go in /vz/template/cache 1190496329 M * Bertl the typical location for guests is /vservers 1190496332 M * dowdle I'll quite asking questions now... and start poking around... reading more... and pulling my head out. 1190496340 M * Bertl but basically you can put them anywhere you like 1190496367 M * Bertl note that util-vserver can use templates or create the guests from the network (basically out of thin air :) 1190496396 M * Bertl so for example, if you want to get a debian guest right now, it's just a single line 1190496401 M * dowdle Ok, if you didn't guess... the Linux-VServer machine I have at work, was there before I was and I didn't set it up. But I've entered and updated VPSes... and I knew just enough to keep them going... but I'm changing that. 1190496440 M * dowdle Bertl: Well, I figured that out given the fact that the CentOS Install page had me do that for my first CentOS guest. 1190496465 M * Bertl yes, but that was the same guest distro :) 1190496501 M * dowdle It would be nice if the CentOS kernel wasn't simply named kernel. For some reason just doing a "yum install kernel" rolled back my updated stock kernel and installed the VS kernel... but that isn't vservers fault. 1190496515 J * ex ex@valis.net.pl 1190496541 M * dowdle Bertl: Yes, but it didn't pull the packages from the host machine, right? the vyum (or whatever) had repo defs on where to pull from over the network. 1190496544 M * Bertl yeah, kernel naming in distros is sometimes confusing ... another reason to compile one your own 1190496545 M * dowdle But I get your point. 1190496567 M * dowdle Well, if YOU weren't compiling your own kernels, I'd be surprised. 1190496601 M * Bertl hehe 1190496938 M * dowdle I'm going to try to switch from newbie mode into discovery mode. I'll be in touch. 1190496942 P * dowdle Konversation terminated! 1190497711 J * xe ex@valis.net.pl 1190497719 M * Bertl wb xe! 1190497742 Q * ex Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1190497742 N * xe ex 1190497920 J * Aiken ~james@ppp121-45-194-147.lns1.bne1.internode.on.net 1190498043 M * Bertl wb Aiken! 1190498054 M * Aiken hello Bertl 1190498156 Q * Pazzo Quit: ... 1190498383 M * Bertl bopper: hmm, I just saw (when preparing the 0.30.214 package) that you enabled some of the older APIs, is there a reason for doing so? 1190498463 M * bopper no, hmm, I'm going to trie it without them 1190498487 M * Bertl kernel should be ready in about 10min here, I hope 1190498500 M * Bertl compiling on the powerbook isn't really fast :) 1190498508 M * bopper yay it's working 1190498522 M * bopper thanks a lot Bertl 1190498527 M * Bertl yes? great! so the problem is in one of the older APIs 1190498538 M * Bertl can you try to find out which one? 1190498558 M * bopper yes I could look at it 1190498567 M * bopper thanks a lot Bertl 1190498573 M * Bertl that would definitely help to fix that for the future 1190498585 M * Bertl you're welcome! 1190498606 M * bopper yea I'm going to look at it, but first I need coffe 1190498614 M * bopper =) 1190498622 M * Bertl np, take your time :) 1190498689 M * bzed can anybody give me a hint what is needed to run a vnc server in a guest? it doesn;t start at all, unfortunately the log is pretty much empty. wated to ask you before hammering with strace on it 1190498771 M * Bertl you mean x11vnc or vncviewer? 1190498780 J * opuk ~kupo@c213-100-138-228.swipnet.se 1190498797 M * Bertl welcome opuk! 1190498842 M * Bertl bzed: or vncserver? 1190499091 M * bzed Bertl: vncserver 1190499785 M * Bertl bzed: could you try with strace -fF -o vncserver.trace vncserver ... 1190499794 M * Bertl and upload the output somewhere? 1190499806 M * bzed Bertl: sure :) 1190500043 M * bzed Bertl: http://pastebin.ca/707434 1190500119 M * bzed Bertl: oops. I should have done that before, it complains about missing fonts.... 1190500161 M * Bertl well, now you have some hints ... 1190500177 M * Supaplex one more hint, never pet a burning dog 1190500246 M * bzed Bertl: that's when you believe that debian maintainers get their dependencies right ... 1190500251 M * bzed Bertl: sorry for disturbing :) 1190500294 M * Supaplex they take their time 1190500368 M * Bertl bzed: np, and that's not even a debian oddity, other distros don't get all dependancies right either 1190500687 M * bzed Bertl: that's true, though. 1190500713 M * bzed the vnc4server maintainer have a new bugreport now ;) 1190500737 M * Bertl good, will be fixed in the next stable release :) 1190500812 Q * nospoonuser Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1190500880 M * bzed i hope so 1190500908 M * bzed or at the next debconf, when I see the maintainer *g* 1190500916 M * Supaplex heh 1190500996 M * Bertl good, I'll call it a day ... have fun folks! cya! 1190501003 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ 1190501044 M * Supaplex laters. 1190501046 M * epicbjorn nite bertl! 1190501047 J * nospoonuser ~nospoonus@n18-241.dsl.vianetworks.de 1190501062 Q * Linus Remote host closed the connection 1190503247 Q * igraltista Read error: Connection reset by peer