1189728531 P * coderanger__ 
1189728685 Q * Baby Remote host closed the connection
1189731631 J * friendly12345 ~friendly@ppp59-167-90-160.lns1.mel6.internode.on.net
1189736291 Q * FireEgl Read error: Connection reset by peer
1189739738 J * zLinux ~zLinux@88.213.35.77
1189741435 Q * hparker Quit: Quit
1189741861 J * hparker ~hparker@linux.homershut.net
1189744624 J * besonen_mobile ~besonen_m@71-220-234-148.eugn.qwest.net
1189744641 M * Bertl_oO wb besonen_mobile!
1189745306 M * Supaplex yay. my desktop is back. 512mb more ram. 1.2 more ghz.
1189745308 M * Supaplex :)
1189745354 M * Bertl_oO and, is it better now?
1189745386 M * Supaplex oh yes.
1189745393 M * Supaplex it actually turns on. :P
1189745410 M * Supaplex 512mb more ram. 2.6ghz celeron vs 1.6ghz p4.
1189745456 Q * arachnist_ Read error: Connection reset by peer
1189745536 J * arachnist ~arachnist@088156189068.who.vectranet.pl
1189748391 J * DavidS ~david@vpn.uni-ak.ac.at
1189748494 M * eyck Bertl_oO: there's a 'PID namespace' in -mm :)))
1189748527 M * daniel_hozac Pavel's or Suka's?
1189748548 M * eyck dunno, how do I check?
1189748557 M * daniel_hozac (or have they been merged since i last read containers-list...)
1189748589 M * Supaplex http://rafb.net/p/WItrnT99.html :)
1189748617 M * daniel_hozac i guess the easiest way is to look at task_struct. does it have a bunch of pid fields, or a list of upids?
1189748630 M * Bertl_oO eyck: I know :)
1189748840 M * eyck Bertl_oO: oh, based on your previous comments about pid virtualisation being impractical I assume you don't. 
1189748930 M * eyck you know too much
1189748989 M * Bertl_oO and you should read over the irc log once again (never said that pid virtualization is impractical :)
1189749288 M * Bertl_oO [2007-09/LOG_2007-09-12.txt:1189584428]
1189750267 M * Bertl_oO okay, off to bed now .. have a good one everyone!
1189750271 N * Bertl_oO Bertl_zZ
1189750848 Q * hparker Quit: *burp*.. It's broke
1189751620 J * dna ~dna@31-232-dsl.kielnet.net
1189751852 J * jmcaricand root@d77-216-185-210.cust.tele2.fr
1189752438 M * Supaplex pid virtualization? humm. there's a thought.
1189753200 M * Supaplex hummMMmmm...
1189753729 Q * dennis_ Remote host closed the connection
1189753735 J * dennis_ ~dennis@dslb-088-068-197-043.pools.arcor-ip.net
1189753874 J * Aiken ~james@ppp121-45-250-174.lns2.bne4.internode.on.net
1189754232 J * Baby ~miry@195.37.62.208
1189754304 J * meandtheshel1 ~markus@85.127.108.176
1189756627 J * brc bruce@megarapido.cliquerapido.com.br
1189756630 M * brc Anyone alive ?
1189756801 M * jmcaricand yes :-)
1189756827 M * brc Good night! :)
1189756841 M * brc ONe of our servers have a peroblem, PS on guests don't give out any results
1189756850 M * brc but processes are active and can be listed on /proc
1189756861 M * brc ps used to work. It just, suddenly, stopped working.
1189756874 M * daniel_hozac cat /proc/*/status works fine?
1189756888 M * daniel_hozac does strace -fF ps aux show anything weird?
1189756895 J * arachnis1 arachnist@088156185052.who.vectranet.pl
1189756911 P * friendly12345 
1189756927 M * bXi can i somehow see which vserver is taking up port 80 ?
1189756940 M * taruti lsof -i
1189756961 M * taruti (although that is probably per-vserver)
1189757030 M * daniel_hozac for i in $(ls -1 /proc/virtnet); do echo "$i"; ncontext --nid "$i" --migrate -- netstat -pnlt | grep :80; done
1189757035 M * daniel_hozac or something like it.
1189757058 M * brc daniel! Good night. lemme paste it
1189757154 M * brc daniel_hozac: /proc/*/status: http://pastebin.com/m24e76e37
1189757190 M * daniel_hozac and strace?
1189757200 M * brc daniel_hozac: strace ps auxw : http://pastebin.com/m22a8629c
1189757210 M * brc it is weird cause i use the same kernel on other 2 servers
1189757222 M * brc 2.6.20.4-vs2.2.0-rc21 #3 SMP Fri Mar 30 05:42:06 BRT 2007 x86_64 GNU/Linux
1189757237 M * brc This just happened on this new one that has been up for 37 days
1189757238 Q * arachnist Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1189757238 N * arachnis1 arachnist
1189757256 M * brc It start happening some days ago . It is a production server so i am waiting for weekend to reboot it
1189757277 J * Piet ~piet@tor.noreply.org
1189757298 M * brc btw,if i ran on the host: vps auxw | grep dnssoft    i get the proccess list
1189757343 M * daniel_hozac strange.
1189757401 M * brc Any hints? Just bad luck? :)
1189757419 M * brc Btw those are 32bit guests on a 64bit kernel
1189757427 M * brc I do the same on the other hosts
1189757469 M * daniel_hozac shouldn't matter.
1189757475 M * daniel_hozac ls -l /proc works fine, right?
1189757499 M * brc Normal
1189757552 M * brc http://pastebin.com/m5b58e2f2 : ls -l /proc
1189757573 M * brc Betl once said something about personality. Do you think that might have something to do ? 
1189757600 M * daniel_hozac you should set the personality, but it really shouldn't affect things like this.
1189757614 J * ema ~ema@fw.galliera.it
1189757648 M * brc If i dont set the personality , what are the risks ?
1189757670 M * brc It is strange cause we work with vserver for a long time  and have never seen something like this
1189757693 M * daniel_hozac you may see the wrong architecture from uname and such in some cases
1189757694 M * brc The only difference from this machine to the others is that this is a Xeon and te others core-duo or p4 dual core
1189757721 M * daniel_hozac that shouldn't matter.
1189757734 M * brc bug?
1189757748 M * daniel_hozac well, i don't see what the problem would be.
1189757766 M * daniel_hozac everything works fine, it's just ps that doesn't say anything...
1189757778 M * daniel_hozac can you trust that ps binary?
1189757791 M * daniel_hozac i.e. if you copy it from another system, does that binary work?
1189757802 M * brc Yes, it is working on all VPS, with different distributions
1189757816 M * daniel_hozac and it's the same binary as on the others?
1189757816 M * brc I mean, the problem is happening on all VPS, even with different distributions
1189757821 M * daniel_hozac ah.
1189757871 M * brc Different binaries as they are from different distributions
1189757873 M * brc erally weird
1189757919 M * brc I though that ps would get its proccess list from /proc
1189757923 M * brc Cause the files are there..
1189757943 M * daniel_hozac it does.
1189757962 M * brc hmm
1189758327 M * brc if i could solve this before sleeping it would be great. i just woke up on the middle of the night
1189758329 M * brc getting crazy
1189758799 J * ktwilight_ ~ktwilight@253.112-66-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be
1189759216 Q * ktwilight Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1189759274 J * FireEgl FireEgl@4.0.0.0.1.0.0.0.c.d.4.8.0.c.5.0.1.0.0.2.ip6.arpa
1189761216 Q * Piet Remote host closed the connection
1189761304 J * Piet ~piet@tor.noreply.org
1189761304 P * elesouef 
1189763902 Q * eSa| Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1189764361 J * esa ~esa@ip-87-238-2-45.adsl.cheapnet.it
1189765953 J * marcfiu ~marcfiu@c-68-39-177-97.hsd1.nj.comcast.net
1189765964 M * marcfiu Hello
1189765985 M * marcfiu Can someone point me at a web page that describes the recipe for a multi-headed xserver setup using vserver.
1189766004 M * marcfiu I know this has been done before by zeng and demonstrated at linuxtag...
1189766069 Q * marcfiu 
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1189768037 M * matti Hello :)
1189768047 M * daniel_hozac hi matti.
1189768054 M * matti ;]
1189769266 Q * ema Quit: leaving
1189770785 J * cedric ~cedric@rny93-2-82-66-66-30.fbx.proxad.net
1189771353 J * Julius ~julius@p57B278D0.dip.t-dialin.net
1189772124 J * Piet ~piet@tor.noreply.org
1189772129 N * esa eSa|
1189772464 J * yarihm ~yarihm@84-75-130-73.dclient.hispeed.ch
1189772511 Q * Aiken Quit: Leaving
1189772879 Q * meandtheshel1 Quit: Leaving.
1189773411 J * balbir ~balbir@122.167.75.103
1189773546 M * renihs hello :)
1189773592 M * renihs also, if you want to test a vserver livecd (i am sure there are a couple around) based on gentoo, i just finished uploading mine to 
1189773593 M * renihs http://dev.gentooexperimental.org/~renihs/
1189773614 M * renihs it features a ready to start template vserver among some other things
1189773678 M * renihs also included are vmware (license need to be acknowledged, serial required) ready to run, qemu and a traffic shaping (layer7 and imq patches) kernel for the iproute2 tools
1189774286 M * eyck  then why not use something more open, like free version of virtualbox, or maybe qemu with kernel acceleration?
1189774434 M * renihs cannot include virtualbox
1189774437 M * renihs license infringement
1189774448 M * renihs kqemu is included
1189774483 M * renihs virtualbox license explicitely states that distrution of binaries is prohibited
1189774486 Q * yarihm Quit: This computer has gone to sleep
1189774491 M * renihs only download for personal use
1189774495 M * renihs or something like that :(
1189774502 M * renihs so i removed it, performance isnt hot anyway in it
1189774513 M * renihs would be interesting for amd64 though :(
1189774952 M * renihs cute, 20mb ram used with fluxbox and one minimal vserver running :p
1189774994 J * lilalinux ~plasma@dslb-084-058-201-101.pools.arcor-ip.net
1189775022 M * eyck I said - free version of virtualbox.
1189775074 M * renihs and the one in portage is the free
1189775097 J * meandtheshell ~markus@85.127.108.176
1189775102 M * renihs and the license still states (which wants to be acknowledged at compile time) that distribution isnt ok
1189775105 M * renihs but i will dig into it
1189775176 M * renihs lemme check one more time, will fetch it to running livecd
1189775238 M * eyck you can't state something like that and claim you're GPL
1189775243 M * renihs ok
1189775251 M * renihs thought so too, and its the gpl-v2 one
1189775256 M * renihs emerging now
1189775257 M * eyck exactly,
1189775300 M * eyck this is something like trolltech and mysql does - they've got their license, and then claim on their page that you should seek commercial license if you wish to use their product for monetary gain
1189775374 M * eyck I haven't used gpled virtual box though, so it's possible there's something crucial missing 
1189775384 M * renihs hmm ya, i was surprised too, first i thought i was because of the additions but no difference without them
1189775505 M * sid3windr gpl'd vb doesn't do rdp for example
1189775512 M * sid3windr and a few other things, I read about it yesterday but forgot
1189775569 M * renihs hmm that i wouldnt mind
1189775590 M * renihs i just dont want to aknowledgesome license on emerge/compile time :(
1189775855 M * renihs oh gruml, i forgot to modify the make.conf...still pointing to our local sources/distcc/stuff
1189775893 Q * cedric Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1189776239 M * brc i need bertl
1189776466 M * sid3windr don't we all
1189776501 M * renihs :)
1189776776 M * renihs eyck, nope, distribution in a runnable form is prohibited for virtualbox
1189776779 M * renihs wont be included 
1189776789 M * renihs i dont like stupidity :)
1189776910 M * brc ps inside my vservers show an empyty output.  need bertl to help me with that
1189776920 M * brc if anyone else is able to help, i would appreciate it :)
1189777219 M * renihs eyck, nope the gentoo dev mixed up PUEL it seems
1189777606 M * renihs eyck, ok, now without additions i will add virtualbox :p
1189777619 M * sid3windr PUEL ?
1189777721 M * renihs ya thats the windows driver around thingie
1189777724 M * renihs or something
1189777735 M * renihs i mean the license for the additions
1189777738 M * renihs is called PUEL
1189778222 M * renihs without it i guess i will lose nifty features but i can add it 
1189778585 M * renihs but its my mistake, without the additions (only PUEL license) there is no issue, i thought i doublechecked that but...
1189778591 M * renihs tried i have, failed i did :(
1189779971 J * cedric ~cedric@rny93-2-82-66-66-30.fbx.proxad.net
1189780124 M * brc AS  reboot solved the ps problem
1189780193 M * daniel_hozac that sounds more like a workaround :)
1189780512 M * brc hehe.. I did not know what to do, and everything was stopping to work
1189781248 Q * the-dude Quit: Is that a kangeroo?
1189781671 J * yarihm ~yarihm@84-75-130-73.dclient.hispeed.ch
1189782677 Q * cedric Quit: cedric
1189783194 J * the-dude ~martijn@senturparks.xs4all.nl
1189784038 Q * nebuchadnezzar Read error: Connection reset by peer
1189784085 J * nebuchadnezzar ~nebu@zion.asgardr.info
1189784679 Q * jmcaricand Remote host closed the connection
1189784700 N * ensc Guest278
1189784709 J * ensc ~irc-ensc@p54B4F0C2.dip.t-dialin.net
1189784818 Q * Guest278 Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1189786048 Q * Julius Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1189786176 J * bonbons ~bonbons@2001:960:7ab:0:20b:5dff:fec7:6b33
1189787115 A * ard wonders wich server bonbons is using
1189787135 M * bonbons ard what do you mean?
1189787146 M * ard eh, the oftc server that talks ipv6
1189787163 M * arachnist ard: /whois
1189787164 M * ard if I use your patch, I also want to connect with ipv6!
1189787178 A * ard blushes
1189787181 M * daniel_hozac irc6.oftc.net
1189787183 M * ard stupid me ;-)
1189787188 M * bonbons it's irc6.otfc.net
1189787190 M * ard ah, irc6... :-)
1189787210 M * ard I've tried irc and irc.ipv6 but had no time to really figure it out :-)
1189787224 M * ard Now for a real ipv6 kernel
1189787228 M * daniel_hozac bonbons: have you incorporated the fixes we've did in 2.3 in the latest IPv6 patches?
1189787241 M * daniel_hozac s/'ve//
1189787251 A * ard schedules a maintenance window for tonight
1189787315 M * bonbons daniel_hozac: hm, not that I would know
1189787354 M * daniel_hozac okay, just curious...
1189787384 J * Julius ~julius@p57B278D0.dip.t-dialin.net
1189788159 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl
1189788167 M * Bertl morning folks!
1189788181 M * bonbons morning Bertl
1189788261 M * Bertl hey bonbons! we would appreciate a third? opinion on the ipv6 stuff :)
1189788289 M * Bertl (the one in Linux-VServer mainline that is)
1189788438 M * bonbons I can't provide an opinion yet, not taken a sufficiently deep look at it until now
1189788829 J * jmcaricand ~jmcarican@d77-216-132-40.cust.tele2.fr
1189789034 J * cedric ~cedric@rny93-2-82-66-66-30.fbx.proxad.net
1189789953 J * hparker ~hparker@linux.homershut.net
1189790260 M * Bertl wb jmcaricand! cedric! hparker!
1189790289 M * hparker Heya Bertl 
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1189793738 Q * Piet Quit: Piet
1189795153 J * dennis__ ~dennis@dslb-088-068-222-124.pools.arcor-ip.net
1189795228 J * ema ~ema@fw.galliera.it
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1189795990 J * nebuchadnezzar ~nebu@zion.asgardr.info
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1189796428 J * duckx ~Duck@tox.dyndns.org
1189796533 Q * duckx 
1189796608 J * duckx ~Duck@tox.dyndns.org
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1189798283 J * balbir ~balbir@122.167.75.112
1189800137 Q * arachnist Quit: brb
1189800138 M * bonbons Bertl: did you look at the real PID of guest's init being leaked? fix in /proc but not yet for AF_FILE sockets
1189800171 M * bonbons using 2.3.0.20 for this check
1189800249 M * daniel_hozac yeah, SCM_CREDENTIALS is... hard.
1189800276 J * arachnist ~arachnist@088156189068.who.vectranet.pl
1189800281 M * daniel_hozac i mean, i'm sure it's easy once you find the right place to do it, i'm just not sure where that is :)
1189800315 J * restill ~restill@c-24-11-195-139.hsd1.mi.comcast.net
1189800338 M * restill FC7 rpms?
1189800344 M * daniel_hozac no.
1189800349 N * restill Rich_Estill
1189800457 M * daniel_hozac the F7 kernel contains CFS, and i'm not comfortable reimplementing the Linux-VServer scheduler.
1189800460 M * Rich_Estill bummer, I upgraded from FC5.vs.  I can see if I can make them, but I may have questions.
1189800471 M * Rich_Estill Ahhh.
1189800546 M * bonbons I don't know either where that is :)
1189800556 M * daniel_hozac if you just want a kernel, http://rpm.hozac.com/dhozac/centos/5/vserver/SRPMS/kernel-2.6.22.6-vs2.3.0.20.2.src.rpm seems to be working fine for me.
1189800600 M * Rich_Estill Ok.  I will try it
1189800693 M * daniel_hozac (the binaries should be fine too, i guess. only problem i've had is with degraded disk performance compared to the F7 kernel, due to CONFIG_IDE=y...)
1189800774 M * Rich_Estill ok good.   I will give them a try.  I reinstalled without looking for the vs kernel.  I started to panic.
1189801486 Q * FireEgl Read error: Connection reset by peer
1189801591 P * Rich_Estill Rebooting
1189801890 M * Bertl bonbons: not yet, but on my todo
1189802103 Q * jmcaricand Quit: KVIrc 3.2.4 Anomalies http://www.kvirc.net/
1189802434 J * FireEgl FireEgl@4.0.0.0.1.0.0.0.c.d.4.8.0.c.5.0.1.0.0.2.ip6.arpa
1189802744 Q * bonbons Quit: Leaving
1189804155 Q * Supaplex Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1189804381 Q * meandtheshell Quit: Leaving.
1189804587 Q * dna Quit: Verlassend
1189804674 M * Bertl feeling a little tired ... will return after a nap ...
1189804680 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ
1189804877 M * sid3windr these napattacks..
1189804911 J * Aiken ~james@ppp121-45-250-174.lns2.bne4.internode.on.net
1189806182 Q * hparker Quit: Quit
1189806495 J * Supaplex ~e@166-70-62-194.ip.xmission.com
1189807389 M * mstrobert What's the Right Way to share /home among multiple guests?
1189807410 M * daniel_hozac i use bind mounts.
1189807421 M * mstrobert okay
1189807549 M * mstrobert I also want to share /etc/{profile,passwd,shadow}. Do I make these hardlinks and use chxid 0 or something?
1189807585 M * daniel_hozac you should probably set the immutable bit too then.
1189807598 M * daniel_hozac but bind mounts should work for them too.
1189807632 M * mnemoc LDAP is nicer than sharing etc/ stuff
1189807639 M * daniel_hozac indeed.
1189807678 M * mstrobert mnemoc: hmm. Is that not a pain to set up?
1189807690 M * mnemoc nah, pretty trivial
1189807759 M * mstrobert mnemoc: I've never even used ldap; is there a recommended starting point that would give good info on setting it up?
1189807775 J * hparker ~hparker@linux.homershut.net
1189807828 M * mnemoc mstrobert: google for nss_ldap (or nss_ldapd) and pam_ldap
1189807871 M * mnemoc mstrobert: and `getent` for testing nss_ldap
1189807891 M * mstrobert mnemoc: okay; thanks
1189807924 M * mnemoc mstrobert: avoid kerberos if you want to get it running soon ,-)
1189808014 M * mstrobert okay :D
1189808163 M * mstrobert daniel_hozac: setting immutable bit - I assume that's one of these options it setattr, but which one? iunlink?
1189808179 M * daniel_hozac inulink will let you remove the file.
1189808190 M * daniel_hozac +spelling
1189808192 M * mnemoc daniel_hozac: is it too evil to "just mount" the same device on different fstabs?
1189808229 M * daniel_hozac i never remember if the superblock sharing is in VFS or up to the filesystem.
1189808232 J * meandtheshell ~markus@85.127.103.10
1189808283 M * daniel_hozac i think it should be safe, but i'm not sure.
1189808286 Q * meandtheshell 
1189808303 M * mnemoc daniel_hozac: until i have to corrupted anytime :p
1189808310 M * mnemoc until now*
1189808324 M * mnemoc err, damn, i need to sleep
1189808328 Q * besonen_mobile Quit: Leaving
1189808336 M * mnemoc "until now i have not corrupted anything"
1189808343 M * Supaplex well the goodnews is, my stock etch vserver (host) just keeps plugging along.
1189808350 M * mnemoc that's why i wanted my fingers to type
1189808648 M * mstrobert mnemoc: that's a much more understandable sentence now ;)
1189808656 M * mnemoc :)
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1189813166 J * yarihm ~yarihm@84-75-130-73.dclient.hispeed.ch
1189813348 J * julius_ ~julius@p57B26667.dip.t-dialin.net
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