1187915682 M * Radiance BertI, it worked, setting the prefix to 32. Sorry for the delay 
1187915704 M * Bertl great! np
1187915709 M * Radiance thanks mate
1187915722 M * Bertl you're welcome!
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1187923880 M * Bertl okay, off to bed now ... have a good one everyone!
1187923885 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ
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1187937104 J * myosisok ~greg@dsl027-181-158.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net
1187937609 A * Supaplex studies http://kernel-handbook.alioth.debian.org/ch-packaging.html#s-arch-dep re vserver
1187939051 J * dna ~dna@130-233-dsl.kielnet.net
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1187951655 M * ard If I set fill-rate2 to 0 and sched_hard is on, I can limit my dnetc to 2%. But if I set fill_rate2, or better fill_rate2 == fill_rate and interval2 == interval, dnetc starts to use 100% on an idle server
1187951675 M * ard I have: CONFIG_VSERVER_HARDCPU=y CONFIG_VSERVER_IDLETIME=y CONFIG_VSERVER_IDLELIMIT=y
1187951699 M * ard Will that last option prevent limiting cpu time in otherwise idle time?
1187952685 M * Wonka any idea if FUSE could work inside vservers?
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1187955894 N * DoberMann_ DoberMann
1187956022 J * ftx_ ~ftx@dslb-084-060-247-218.pools.arcor-ip.net
1187956615 M * ard Depends on what you want
1187956644 M * ard Have the userspace in a vserver or have a fuse mounted in a vserver
1187956658 M * ard I guess they are both possible
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1187960194 M * arachnist hmm
1187960698 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl
1187960702 M * Bertl morning folks!
1187960758 M * fb 'evening Bertl :)
1187961064 J * Julius ~julius@p57B273DE.dip.t-dialin.net
1187961155 J * mountie ~mountie@trb229.travel-net.com
1187961235 M * Bertl Wonka: FUSE should work, but that is probably not something you _want_ inside a guest for security reasons
1187961277 M * Bertl ard: no, the idle time option just _allows_ you to do fair scheduling in addition to hard cpu limits
1187961834 M * fb Bertl: will 2.3.0.18 mean also transition experimental -> something more stable?
1187962094 M * Bertl nope, not really
1187962202 M * matti B :)
1187962288 M * Bertl 2.3.0.18 should contain all the 'new' stuff for 2.6.22
1187962317 M * Bertl after that, we will do two things ... bugfixing and 2.6.23 port
1187962350 M * Bertl if we get sufficient feedback on the devel branch, we will also start stabilizing certain features for the next stable release
1187963340 J * jab ~jbz@200.128.60.11
1187963350 M * Bertl welcome jab!
1187963362 M * jab Thanks! Bertl
1187963378 M * jab Could I make one question?
1187963397 M * Bertl sure, see topic!
1187963444 M * nox Bertl: btw still totally happy with vserver. :D great work folx!
1187963477 M * jab where can I find some documentation to put 2 IPs, one in each NIC in different VLANs (each NIC to a different VSERVER)?
1187963491 M * jab I'm using Debian amd64
1187963504 M * Bertl nox: thanks for the feedback!
1187963615 M * Bertl jab: well, assigning them to different (vlan or normal) interfaces and using them in a Linux-VServer guest is straight forward
1187963652 M * Bertl jab: the question is more, do you need a dual gateway setup or is a single default gateway enough in your case?
1187963685 M * jab single default gateway... one vserver is for inside network.. another is for DMZ
1187963705 M * jab and I want to put a third interface to use to SSH
1187963757 M * Bertl well, that should be really simple then, let's assume you have eth0.0, eth0.1 for the two guests, yes?
1187963777 M * jab I created the vserver at newvserver command, and when I start it, the IP is assigned to eth1 from guest host, and the packets doesn't go to vserver host.
1187963785 M * jab ok
1187963841 M * Bertl well, you should forget about the newvserver command, it is a debian oddity and just leads to confusion
1187963850 M * jab perfect
1187963854 M * Bertl you can do the same things with the vserver command
1187963858 M * jab let's go
1187963867 M * Bertl and this one will work on all distros in similar ways
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1187963903 M * Bertl if you have you guests already created, it shouldn't be a big deal to adjust the configuration if you want that
1187963922 M * jab it's already created
1187963943 M * Bertl okay, so go to the config tree at /etc/vservers/<name>
1187963962 M * Bertl you will see a directory interfaces there with probably one or maybe two entries '0' and '1'
1187963994 M * jab just 0 - there are a dev and a ip files
1187964009 M * jab and prefix to
1187964023 M * Bertl okay, so the 'dev' is the one telling the tools where they should put the 'ip' to
1187964037 M * jab ok
1187964044 M * Bertl so your 'dev' entry for the first guest should be eth0.0 then
1187964044 M * jab i know that
1187964070 M * Bertl the ip the proper ip you want to be assigned there and the prefix or netmaks according to your networks
1187964088 M * Bertl similar for the second guest, which will get eth0.1
1187964149 M * jab ok... I have another vserver with 7 vservers hosts, all with the same network address... it works nicely. But my new situation
1187964164 M * jab I have two different networks address.. one to interface
1187964214 M * jab the server's interface should has a IP on this interface?
1187964220 M * jab or just vservers hosts.?
1187964314 M * Bertl two different 'public' ips?
1187964320 M * jab my server: eth0 (192.168.0.2), and eth1(10.0.0.2). I would like to have two vservers: (192.168.0.3) and (10.0.0.3)
1187964329 M * jab yes... public ips
1187964344 M * jab in this example i put inside ips to test
1187964358 M * Bertl well, as I said, if they have the _same_ gateway, it's straight forward
1187964363 M * jab two diffetent public ips in the different VLANs
1187964376 M * Bertl if they use different gateways, then you have to setup multiple routing tables
1187964380 M * jab but are different gateways
1187964467 M * Bertl okay, then multiple routing tables is the way to go
1187964503 M * Bertl make sure that your kernel supports them, and then it should not be too hard to setup .. let me dig out the info I have for that :)
1187964565 M * nox you wrote one 4 the old wiki didn't you?
1187964565 M * Bertl http://archives.linux-vserver.org/200311/0470.html
1187964600 M * Bertl it's now almost 4 years old, but should still work :)
1187964646 M * Bertl probably should update it at some point and put it on the new wiki
1187964709 M * jab Ok. Thank you a lot. I will study this links!!
1187964720 M * jab Have a nice day!!
1187964785 M * Bertl you too, and if you have further questions ... feel free to ask!
1187964964 M * jab thanks!
1187964964 M * nox Bertl: would be great step to let more people use the power of ip :D
1187964964 M * jab :)
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1187965497 J * wenchien ~wenchien@59-105-176-11.adsl.static.seed.net.tw
1187965499 N * DoberMann DoberMann[PullA]
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1187966877 J * onox ~onox@kalfjeslab.demon.nl
1187966918 M * onox which kernel gives me troubles .21 or .22?
1187966938 M * Bertl hehe, you tell us?
1187966964 M * onox no, you tell me :+
1187967006 M * onox i want to upgrade from .20 on my laptop
1187967013 M * Bertl I have most of my servers running 2.6.19.7, but some are running 2.6.21 and 2.6.22
1187967030 M * Bertl till now, everything seems smooth
1187967052 J * ftx__ ~ftx@dslb-084-062-231-109.pools.arcor-ip.net
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1187970436 Q * nox Quit: If the world is without walls and fences -- who needs Windows and Gates ?
1187970456 J * nox ~nox@static.88-198-17-175.clients.your-server.de
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1187971562 J * ensc ~irc-ensc@p54B4D571.dip.t-dialin.net
1187971899 J * AstralS debian-tor@tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net
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1187972315 M * ard 2.6.22.1 run fine on my macbook
1187972330 M * ard But now I have 2.6.23-rc3 vserver-less...
1187972361 M * Bertl hehe, that will probably change soon, I guess :)
1187972876 J * bonbons ~bonbons@158.64.111.124
1187973050 J * balbir ~balbir@122.167.95.137
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1187973352 M * ard I hope so :-0
1187973371 M * ard but the change between 22 and 23 is really huge...
1187973401 M * ard But mac-vlan's will be supported. From a networking point of view that's perfect, on the other hand, for vservers it's also good
1187973502 M * sid3windr mac-vlans?
1187973573 M * ard macvlans are k00l
1187973771 J * dilinger ~dilinger@mail.queued.net
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1187974866 M * Bertl okay, off for a nap ... back later ...
1187974870 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ
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1187984250 M * FaUl daniel_hozac: ping?
1187984775 J * Piet_ ~piet@tor.noreply.org
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1187987436 J * coderanger ~coderange@kantrn.stu.rpi.edu
1187988074 M * FaUl  joChaostreff: Closed | Wochenende: Bastelfr?hst?ck? ( BrainMachine )                                                                            
1187988077 M * FaUl oops
1187988114 M * FaUl save_ctxinfo: execv(): No such file or directory
1187988126 M * FaUl anyone an idea what this is about?
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1187989096 J * yarihm ~yarihm@84-75-109-39.dclient.hispeed.ch
1187991192 J * tuxmania ~bonbons@2001:960:7ab:0:20b:5dff:fec7:6b33
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1187991298 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl
1187991322 M * Bertl FaUl: check with --debug, should shed some light on it
1187991332 M * FaUl bertl, no id didnt
1187991338 M * FaUl but reinstall vserver-utils helped
1187991520 M * Bertl ah, interesting, so maybe your /var/run dir got removed accidentially?
1187991545 M * Bertl (or one of the subdirs)
1187991559 M * FaUl yea, it may have to do with something like taht
1187991622 J * Julius ~julius@p57B273DE.dip.t-dialin.net
1187991641 J * FaU1 ~immo@2001:4c50:fffc:30:290:27ff:fe9d:1b35
1187991646 M * FaU1 weha
1187991649 M * FaU1 from a vserver at least ;-)
1187991682 Q * FaU1 
1187991687 M * FaUl excellent
1187991721 M * FaUl i'll configure the other vserver with ipv6 later then
1187992181 M * Bertl I assume that's 2.3.0.17?
1187992404 M * bXi Bertl: 
1187992404 M * bXi venice ~ # uname -s -r && uptime
1187992405 M * bXi Linux 2.6.22.2-vs2.3.0.17 23:53:30 up 8 days,  6:01,  3 users,  load average: 0.75, 0.40, 0.24
1187992416 M * bXi no new issues so far
1187992420 M * Bertl excellent!
1187992441 M * bXi gives a few friends a vserver to mess around wth
1187992472 M * Bertl yeah, that's always fun! :)
1187992472 M * bXi and i have a dedicated transport tycoon server going on there
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1187994391 N * fosco_ fosco
1187997748 J * bobkr ~test@plutonium.logisys911.com
1187997951 M * Bertl welcome bobkr!
1187997969 M * bobkr thanks..
1187998025 M * bobkr is there a way to find out why mac address changes from time to time on the vserver?
1187998084 M * Bertl that sounds weird, and is definitely not Linux-VServer related ... the networking in Linux-VServer is IP based, so the MAC part is way below that
1187998122 M * Bertl IMHO if the MAC of your interface(s) on the host change over time, then there are two possible causes
1187998160 M * Bertl a) a hardware/driver problem (think sky driver) and b) a process which explicitely does that 
1187998230 M * bobkr at first i thought it was hardware issue, so i replaced, its been good for few days and started to happen again
1187998253 M * Bertl what kind of hardware is the networking card?
1187998263 M * bobkr its built-in on motherboard
1187998276 M * bobkr rtl-8139
1187998304 M * Bertl and what driver do you use for that?
1187998348 M * bobkr 8139too but 8139cp gets loaded, i tried blacklisting but wont do it
1187998383 M * arachnist rm the 8139cp
1187998394 M * Bertl hmm, do you (or does it) suspend your machine every now and then?
1187998398 M * arachnist (if it's a module, not built-in)
1187998407 M * Bertl yeah, or just rename it
1187998452 M * bobkr yea, rm works and i tried but still creating issues
1187998482 M * Bertl and what did you replace? the motherboard?
1187998500 M * bobkr yes, motherboard, cpu and more rap
1187998506 M * bobkr er - rap - ram
1187998541 M * Bertl maybe you do get some messages in 'dmesg'?
1187998543 M * bobkr im using standard etch deb kernel, no extras
1187998566 M * Bertl might be worth trying a newer one just to make sure
1187998581 M * bobkr nothing unusuall in dmesg
1187998631 M * bobkr actually i tried adding stable patch for 4.6.18, w/ grsec and w/o it, same thing..
1187998655 M * Bertl so I would opt for a driver issue, as this is the only place where MAC addresses can be changed accidentially
1187998667 J * julius_ ~julius@p57B25922.dip.t-dialin.net
1187998683 M * Bertl does the MAC change according to some pattern? i.e. do a few bits flip or are only certain palces affected
1187998716 M * bobkr whole mac is changed
1187998753 M * bobkr except first byte, its like vserver is trying to use its own somewhere
1187998763 M * bobkr is there a settings in vserver config for mac?
1187998770 M * Bertl nah, not possible
1187998798 M * Bertl there is no kernel side nor userspace implementation in Linux-VServer which would mess around with the MAC
1187998809 M * Bertl (neither intentionally nor accidentially :)
1187998897 M * bobkr okay, then i would guess the packet gets corrupted somewhere or its a driver/nic issue, mostlikely bad switch..
1187998929 M * Bertl hmm, are we talking about packets or the MAC info on the interface (regarding change)
1187998946 M * bobkr packets, the mac info stays the same
1187998969 M * Bertl okay, not Linux-VServer related either, but in this case I would check the hardware
1187998990 M * bobkr both, host and guest show the same info for mac all the time
1187999020 M * bobkr but ive setup arpwatch and complain about "flip flops" from time to time..
1187999027 M * Bertl okay, then it should be hardware related, unless you have special patches which mess with the MAC
1187999103 Q * Julius Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1187999176 M * bobkr well, since you're sure there is no mac settings for vserver then its got to be hardware/driver issue
1187999211 M * Bertl yes, I'm sure about that :)
1187999225 M * bobkr thanks :)
1187999290 M * bobkr how do you search vserver mail lists? i can't find a way except for google "insite:" and still it searches only subjects
1187999397 M * daniel_hozac google's the only way, AFAIK.
1187999418 M * Bertl http://www.13thfloor.at/vserver/search/
1187999424 M * Bertl (uses google)
1187999441 M * Bertl use Paul Sladens archives
1187999453 M * bobkr yea, thats how i figured to use google through that site
1187999498 M * bobkr i would rather just get mboxed archive and search it in thunderbird, oh well
1187999534 M * Bertl you might want to contact sladen, he should have a version
1187999559 M * bobkr ill check it out, thanks - gota go 
1187999565 Q * bobkr