1187740807 M * daniel_hozac in the "[edit]  Setting flags and capabilities" section?
1187740888 M * Guy- yes, I see it
1187740894 M * Guy- OK, this is almost good enough
1187740927 M * Guy- what is most badly missing is for example an explanation of the difference between context flags and context capabilities
1187740956 M * Guy- and many of the descriptions are not detailed enough
1187740970 M * Guy- for example, what does "Enable state change helper" mean? (no, don't tell me)
1187740997 M * Guy- Hollow: what's funny, btw? :)
1187741049 M * daniel_hozac the tag says it's internal use only.
1187741076 M * daniel_hozac and IMHO, just the words describe the difference adequately.
1187741101 M * daniel_hozac capability means it will let the guest do something, flag alters behaviour in some way.
1187741369 M * Guy- daniel_hozac: then how is "Allow context to create new contexts" not a capability? :)
1187741392 M * daniel_hozac and that is marked legacy :)
1187741409 M * daniel_hozac (legacy doesn't have context capabilities)
1187741422 M * Guy- it's not marked legacy
1187741464 M * daniel_hozac hmm, we have to flags for the same thing, limiting a feature we don't support...
1187741517 M * Guy- anyway, I have a migration to take care of
1187741519 M * daniel_hozac s/to/two/.
1187741523 M * Guy- this has been very educational
1187741530 M * Guy- but I'll be off now, good night
1187741538 M * daniel_hozac night.
1187741784 J * AlanCox ~linus@bl7-135-94.dsl.telepac.pt
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1187742647 M * mnemoc .oO
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1187765074 M * harry fb: there is no grsec for 2.3 patches (yet)
1187765124 M * harry reason: 2.3 is development
1187765215 M * harry you 'd want grsec on a stable software
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1187765374 N * DoberMann DoberMann[PullA]
1187766642 J * Baby ~miry@195.37.62.208
1187766926 J * balbir ~balbir@59.145.136.1
1187767294 M * fb harry: i understand this, all i wanted to know is if grsec version for 2.3 is planned, and when
1187767313 M * harry well... if there comes a release, i'll probably fix a patch for it :)
1187767326 M * harry as it's still in alpha phase, i won't :)
1187767338 J * ktwilight ~ktwilight@67.207-66-87.adsl-static.isp.belgacom.be
1187767375 M * fb harry: so for now i'm perfectly happy with your ipv6 patch :)
1187767437 M * harry :)
1187767456 M * harry if you want, the patch also applies to 2.6.21.7 :)
1187767479 M * fb and what about 22.2?
1187767490 M * fb too much changes for grsec?
1187767502 M * harry no, just haven't gotten around to it yet
1187767512 M * harry kernel developers keep messing up the code
1187767522 M * harry hence needing a LOT of patches on it every time
1187767533 M * harry so i tend to wait some time to update a patch
1187767543 M * harry as you can see, they're at 2.6.22.2 allready
1187767553 M * harry sorry
1187767555 M * harry 2.6.22.4
1187767568 M * fb and there's a lot of improvement in stability on via's platform 
1187767611 M * fb middle 2.6 series (around 8-16) were just crashing badly without any reason :(
1187767625 M * harry yeah
1187767651 A * harry will make one now actually
1187767658 M * harry good idea! :)
1187767667 A * harry has a via machine too, so i could use it :)
1187767679 M * fb i saw they added c7 cpu support recently
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1187767696 A * harry will start on it now..
1187767870 M * harry oomph...
1187767871 M * fb harry: longhaul support is back since 21
1187767937 M * harry there are pax patches up to 2.6.22.4, but the grsecurity part of it, it still for 2.6.22.2 (i can update off course, but i 'd like to checkout what's the deal with grsec and pax people
1187767941 M * harry so probably not today :)
1187768773 M * fb and vt1211 driver is also included, and differs heavily from the patch i used before
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1187769668 M * slack102 man
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1187776319 M * Bertl_oO okay, I'm back home .. going to bed now :)
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1187789106 M * micah daniel_hozac: i'm failing to compile util-vserver (-213) with newer libraries and gcc versions and I'm wondering if you have run into this: http://paste.linux-vserver.org/6397
1187791423 J * Julius ~julius@p57B256DC.dip.t-dialin.net
1187791702 M * daniel_hozac micah: looks like a problem with your ext2fs headers.
1187791826 P * friendly12345 
1187791895 M * RoeyMcLovin micah:  heya, micah from UMD?
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1187792851 M * micah RoeyMcLovin: nope, you are the second person to ask that now :)
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1187792958 M * micah daniel_hozac: hmm
1187792997 A * micah tries to reinstall e2fslibs-dev to see if that helps
1187793090 M * micah nope
1187793448 A * micah downgrades the package to find where the problem is
1187793505 M * RoeyMcLovin micah:  really?
1187793512 M * RoeyMcLovin micah:  was it me the first time who asked, too?
1187793521 N * RoeyMcLovin Roey
1187793606 M * micah Roey: I dont think so
1187793615 M * Roey oh, ok then
1187793681 M * micah that would be amusing though
1187793774 A * Roey snickers
1187793786 M * Roey because I remember asking you before
1187793797 M * Roey Have you spoken with this Micah-from-UMD?
1187793804 M * Roey We took classes together
1187793870 M * daniel_hozac of course he has. all the micahs of the world get together once a month.
1187793964 P * UukGoblin 
1187794054 M * micah Roey: oh well maybe it was you that asked me before
1187794087 M * micah at one point, before the internet was popular, there were only about 3 micah's online and we had a mailing list
1187794105 M * micah but now those other micahs steal my login name and handle everywhere
1187794476 M * Roey ohhhhh I see
1187794477 M * Roey nice
1187794478 M * Roey I mean,
1187794481 M * Roey I like the name micah
1187794484 M * Roey it's a very Jewish name
1187795014 M * micah and I'm not jewish
1187795170 M * Roey ahhhh
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1187808103 J * FHTech ~Miranda@62.140.244.26
1187808223 M * FHTech Hello, tell please, I correctly understand, what as limits - swap, rss limits - ram?
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1187809109 M * daniel_hozac no, AS limits the address space.
1187809129 M * daniel_hozac it doesn't really correspond to any physical resource.
1187809542 M * FHTech daniel_hozac: thanks, strictly to limit RAM it is better to use rss or rss.hard?
1187809890 M * daniel_hozac yes.
1187809896 M * daniel_hozac rss will set both rss.hard and rss.soft.
1187810269 J * Marcelp ~root@brma.libercon.com.br
1187810603 J * phreak`` ~phreak``@deimos.barfoo.org
1187811129 M * cehteh as makes no much sense .. except many you have some apps which put too much pressure on the virtual memory management of the kernel
1187811175 J * ema ~ema@fw.galliera.it
1187811202 M * FHTech  explain please, for example I need to establish hard restrictions RAM 128 mb and SWAP 256 mb. In this case I should specify only in rss.hard 131072 (128 mb)?
1187811975 J * Piet_ ~piet@tor.noreply.org
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1187812628 M * FHTech Still a question. A command vserver-stat. Value RSS. Displays how many now it is used VPS RAM? 
1187812734 M * daniel_hozac yes.
1187812742 M * daniel_hozac if you have util-vserver 0.30.213+, IIRC.
1187812872 M * FHTech no, 0.30.210. 
1187812888 M * daniel_hozac you'd want to upgrade that then...
1187812937 M * cehteh http://ghcif.de/~t4c/px/nocpeitsche.jpg BOFH :)
1187812971 J * yarihm ~yarihm@84-75-109-39.dclient.hispeed.ch
1187812974 M * FHTech daniel_hozac: At updating util-vserver, created VPS ( /vservers/vps) will be removed?
1187812980 M * daniel_hozac no.
1187813093 M * FHTech daniel_hozac: ok, thanks, I shall update.  Tell please, what parameter is responsible for allocation SWAP? (rss.soft, rss.hard, etc...)
1187813207 M * daniel_hozac there isn't really any way to limit swap at this point.
1187813411 M * FHTech daniel_hozac: then hard RAM for VPS it is better to limit through rss or rss.hard ? What value is better for putting as ?
1187813442 M * daniel_hozac rss is rss.hard _and_ rss.soft.
1187813634 M * FHTech "rss.soft - soft limit which VPS can cross, rss.hard - hard a limit, maximal RAM for VPS", I correctly understand ? or Max RAM = rss.soft + rss.hard
1187813759 M * daniel_hozac rss.hard is indeed the maximum amount of RAM.
1187813791 M * daniel_hozac if it goes over rss.soft, the likelyhood of it getting killed by the OOM-killer and swapped out increases, IIRC.
1187813872 M * FHTech Thanks, now I have understood, what will tell about as? Whether it is necessary to create it and what value will be optimum ?
1187814061 J * cui kubus_mara@222.124.158.182
1187814144 M * daniel_hozac limiting AS doesn't make too much sense, as it doesn't correspond to any physical resource. you may want to limit it to something like 10 * rss, just to prevent DoS-attacks though.
1187814286 M * FHTech daniel_hozac: Many thanks for the help
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1187818350 M * FHTech daniel_hozac: One more question. I have specified in rss.hard 131072 (128 mb), but at performance of a command free on VPS " Mem Total 512 mb ". Why so? When hard RSS it is specified 128 mb
1187818368 M * daniel_hozac did you set the virt_mem flag?
1187818419 M * FHTech yes
1187818467 M * daniel_hozac wait, 131072 is 512 MiB.
1187818476 M * daniel_hozac at least with the x86 page size of 4096 bytes.
1187818602 M * FHTech 32768 is 128 MiB, I correctly understand?
1187818732 M * daniel_hozac sounds right.
1187818789 M * FHTech thanks, and soft rss, should is in a file rss or rss.soft?
1187818805 M * daniel_hozac rss.soft, if you want that to be different.
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1187819043 M * FHTech It turns out, that if I shall create only rss.hard without rss.soft, on VPS will be only maximal RAM a limit at which excess will be mistakes ?
1187819737 M * FHTech hm... At creation as (256 mb), swap on VPS it is displayed 128 mb. as-rss=swap...When the file as is not present, swap VPS = swap node
1187819831 J * arachnist arachnist@088156186146.who.vectranet.pl
1187820048 M * emtty as far as what the guest should report via 'free', swap = rss.hard - rss.soft
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1187820137 M * FHTech emtty: thanks, I shall try
1187820160 M * daniel_hozac that depends on the kernel.
1187820166 M * daniel_hozac for 2.2+, that's true.
1187820190 M * daniel_hozac for 2.0, it's as.hard-rss.hard.
1187820556 M * FHTech Thanks. util-vserver-0.30.213 it is compatible with kernel 2.0 ?
1187821285 M * daniel_hozac yes.
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