1187569299 Q * arcil Quit: Leaving 1187570563 Q * Piet_ Remote host closed the connection 1187573959 J * DoberMann_ ~james@AToulouse-156-1-144-192.w90-30.abo.wanadoo.fr 1187574065 Q * DoberMann[ZZZzzz] Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1187574219 J * friendly12345 ~friendly@ppp121-44-237-56.lns2.mel4.internode.on.net 1187574338 Q * AStorm Remote host closed the connection 1187574446 J * AStorm ~astralsto@tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net 1187576704 M * Bertl okay, off to bed ... have a good one everyone! 1187576711 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ 1187589756 N * DoberMann_ DoberMann 1187590495 Q * Ashsong_home Quit: leaving 1187590580 Q * eSa| Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1187590741 J * igraltist ~user4@kasten-edv.de 1187590754 M * igraltist hi 1187590835 M * igraltist i have create a guestsystem , my testsystem host has ip 192.168.1.5 and i give the guest the ip 192.168.1.100 1187590860 M * igraltist now with nmap 192.168.1.100 show me that the ssh is avaible 1187590886 M * igraltist but if i try to login i allways get the host ssh 1187591072 M * Hollow igraltist: you sshd on the host listens on all adresses 1187591110 M * igraltist oh thx :) 1187591135 M * Hollow sshd inside may listen on *, it will be limited to the configured IPs 1187591155 M * Hollow but on the host every IP is available, so you have to limit sshd 1187591512 M * igraltist its very easy to user the vserver 1187591656 M * nanonyme Hollow: is that by design, btw? i was thinking virtualization at some point which would only have the physical device and no IP addresses for host. then host would be safe from outside connectivity ^^ 1187591664 J * jesse_ ~wenchien@59-105-176-11.adsl.static.seed.net.tw 1187591681 M * Hollow nanonyme: yes, virtualized networking would cause more overhead 1187591691 N * jesse_ wenchien 1187591696 M * Hollow networking is isolated in linux-vserver, not virtualized 1187591703 M * nanonyme kk 1187591727 M * nanonyme so i'd have to make sure no daemons are running in host if i wanted to do it my way 1187591749 M * nanonyme and still use vserver 1187591760 M * Hollow yep, in general i only have sshd running on the host :) 1187591771 M * Hollow on its own IP 1187591775 M * nanonyme k 1187591799 M * igraltist so i can give a guest 2 nics and than when the ip network is different from the host, the cannot see the traffic from the host 1187591816 N * DoberMann DoberMann[PullA] 1187591869 M * nanonyme Hollow: what if i'd do it so that it has its daemons binded to only a private address so if something is broken, i'd have to re-cable things and contact the host machine? ;) 1187591921 M * nanonyme and it's impossible to completetly break things remotely 1187591921 M * Hollow well, if you have hardware access... 1187591927 M * nanonyme i do 1187591934 M * Hollow but it may get a PITA for yourself too otherwise :P 1187591951 M * nanonyme well, yeah 1187591984 M * nanonyme of course i could just do it so that host would require an ssh key to login 1187592832 M * igraltist i have an already installed system, how can i get it into the vserver without a debootstrap 1187593157 M * matti Morning :-) 1187593348 M * Hollow matti: too much cross-posting :P 1187593812 M * matti ? 1187593843 M * matti :) 1187594148 J * dna ~dna@122-203-dsl.kielnet.net 1187594355 M * igraltist it is possible in the guest to hidde the ifconfig output from the host? 1187594398 M * daniel_hozac what does that mean? the guest will only see addresses that are assigned to it. 1187594424 M * igraltist yes my mistake 1187594431 M * igraltist i have nt proper look 1187594457 M * igraltist i saw this eth0:2 1187594471 M * igraltist and i was thinking . oh this i define in the host 1187594489 M * igraltist so i must not do this in the host or? 1187595921 J * ema ~ema@fw.galliera.it 1187596039 M * daniel_hozac hmm? 1187596046 M * daniel_hozac the guest merely sees a subset of the host. 1187596051 M * daniel_hozac the subset which you have assigned. 1187597314 M * igraltist can i forward a usbdevice to a guest? 1187597479 J * pmenier ~pmenier@LNeuilly-152-22-72-5.w193-251.abo.wanadoo.fr 1187597927 J * jmcaricand ~jm@d90-144-55-59.cust.tele2.fr 1187598066 Q * jmcaricand 1187598180 Q * sannes Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1187598186 Q * balbir Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1187598213 J * jmcaricand ~jm@d90-144-55-59.cust.tele2.fr 1187598224 Q * jmcaricand 1187598264 J * jmcaricand ~jm@d90-144-55-59.cust.tele2.fr 1187598353 J * yarihm ~yarihm@84-74-20-183.dclient.hispeed.ch 1187599095 M * Baby vcmd does only work with 2.3.0 ? 1187599407 Q * jmcaricand Quit: Parti 1187599554 M * daniel_hozac quite likely. 1187599562 M * daniel_hozac it's a syscall test tool. 1187599697 M * Baby yup, but a header is missing from 2.2.0 and 2.1.0 subdirs 1187599706 M * igraltist my guest dont has this 1187599707 M * igraltist shutdown: /dev/initctl: No such file or directory 1187599707 M * igraltist init: /dev/initctl: No such file or directory 1187599715 M * igraltist what is missing? 1187599724 M * Baby so it only works with the link to 2.3.0 ... i hope it works with the 2.2.0 patches in the kernel anyway 1187599775 M * daniel_hozac igraltist: nothing, you just can't use shutdown from inside an init-less guest. 1187599783 M * daniel_hozac igraltist: use reboot -f or halt -f instead. 1187599797 M * daniel_hozac igraltist: alternatively, use the plain initstyle. 1187599814 M * daniel_hozac Baby: as long as you call the right version. 1187599815 M * igraltist ok thx 1187599918 M * Baby anyway I'll have to rewrite a part of it, it seems to use clone() in a strange way (missing parameters) 1187599944 M * daniel_hozac no it's not. 1187599950 M * daniel_hozac clone with 2 parameters is also valid. 1187599968 M * Baby vcmd.c: In function 'do_exec': 1187599968 M * Baby vcmd.c:1021: warning: passing argument 1 of 'clone' makes pointer from integer without a cast 1187599968 M * Baby vcmd.c:1021: error: too few arguments to function 'clone' 1187599968 M * Baby make[1]: *** [vcmd] Error 1 1187599973 M * Baby maybe 1187600016 M * Baby is there a 4 parameter clone call equivalent to the 2 parameters one? 1187600030 M * daniel_hozac 5. 1187600050 M * igraltist i had modify this file /usr/lib/util-vserver/defaults/vprocunhide-files, what need all to restart that it take effect 1187600064 M * daniel_hozac you shouldn't modify that file. 1187600081 M * daniel_hozac it's going to be overwritten when you upgrade the utils. 1187600083 M * Baby maybe calling it with syscall instead 1187600150 M * daniel_hozac copy it to /etc/vservers/.defaults/apps/vprocunhide/files and edit that instead. 1187600161 M * igraltist ah ok 1187600355 M * igraltist so i can this also only do for a single domain 1187600382 M * igraltist so that it only this domain eg. get usb support 1187600405 M * daniel_hozac what? 1187600541 M * igraltist in /etc/vserver/'name'/apps mayby put this file vprocunhide? 1187600548 M * daniel_hozac no. 1187600575 M * daniel_hozac proc unhiding is global. 1187600693 J * balbir ~balbir@122.167.93.202 1187601486 J * jmcaricand ~jm@d90-144-55-59.cust.tele2.fr 1187601517 M * igraltist i see with mount this in a guest, none on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (0), and have in vprocunhide /proc/bus insert, restart the guest but no /proc/bus 1187601521 J * meandtheshel1 ~markus@85.127.116.67 1187601550 M * daniel_hozac did you add /proc/bus/, and do the trick to make that happend? 1187601554 M * daniel_hozac -d 1187601607 M * igraltist yes 1187601624 M * igraltist why not, i try what i can do 1187601670 M * daniel_hozac so you followed http://linux-vserver.org/USB_Devices, right? 1187601734 M * igraltist hmm no 1187601834 M * daniel_hozac might want to do that then... 1187602067 J * AstralS ~astralsto@tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net 1187602145 Q * AStorm Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1187602343 J * duckx ~Duck@tox.dyndns.org 1187602371 M * Baby why does vcmd redefine syscall numbers different to those from the system? 1187602404 M * daniel_hozac hmm? 1187602481 J * jmcaricand_ ~jm@d90-144-82-211.cust.tele2.fr 1187602656 M * igraltist is this document relevant? http://www.solucorp.qc.ca/miscprj/s_context.hc?s1=4&s2=3&s3=0&s4=0&full=0&prjstate=1&nodoc=0 1187602660 M * igraltist or to old 1187602678 M * igraltist i use the vserver with kernel 2.6.22 1187602702 M * daniel_hozac that's for jacques' tools. 1187602763 Q * jmcaricand Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1187602768 M * daniel_hozac might want to check out http://linux-vserver.org/util-vserver:Documentation if you're using util-vserver. 1187603585 Q * jmcaricand_ Quit: Parti 1187604055 J * ktwilight_ ~ktwilight@194.96-66-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be 1187604205 M * dna hi, i'm running out of semaphores with vs2.0.1 with apache2. apache2 on the guest uses 3 of them. if i restart apache2 on the guest the semaphore count on the host increase to +9 semaphores, but on the guest i see only 3 1187604468 Q * ktwilight Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1187604884 Q * AstralS Remote host closed the connection 1187604937 J * AstralS ~astralsto@tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net 1187604979 J * Julius ~julius@p57B27F1B.dip.t-dialin.net 1187605584 Q * Julius Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1187605597 J * Julius ~julius@p57B27F1B.dip.t-dialin.net 1187607572 J * Piet ~piet@tor.noreply.org 1187609615 J * besonen_mobile_ ~besonen_m@71-220-238-128.eugn.qwest.net 1187609639 J * ntrs__ ntrs@68-188-55-120.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com 1187609944 Q * hardwire Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1187609944 Q * pmenier Read error: Connection reset by peer 1187610014 Q * besonen_mobile Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1187610024 Q * Roey Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1187610029 Q * ntrs_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1187610056 J * hardwire ~bip@ak.glaven.org 1187610566 J * Roey ~katz@dsl093-083-226.wdc1.dsl.speakeasy.net 1187610602 J * jmcaricand ~jm@d90-144-82-211.cust.tele2.fr 1187611323 J * pmenier ~pmenier@LNeuilly-152-22-72-5.w193-251.abo.wanadoo.fr 1187612583 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl 1187612589 M * Bertl morning folks! 1187612788 Q * hardwire cation.oftc.net synthon.oftc.net 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... back shortly 1187615163 M * igraltist can i mount a lvm volumen to a guest? 1187615250 M * eyck yes 1187615287 N * Roey RoeyMcLovin 1187615540 M * igraltist has i do to deal with the /dev/vroot ? 1187615939 P * friendly12345 1187616086 M * eyck do you want to mount it on the fly? ie, when you stop the guest you want the volume to get unmounted? 1187616104 M * eyck I mount it statically before the guest starts, and leave it there 1187616124 M * Bertl igraltist: you can use vnamespace to enter the guest's namespace and mount it there 1187616161 M * Bertl igraltist: to make that permanently available for the guest, add it to the guest's fstab (in the guest configuration) 1187616206 M * eyck you were supposed to go to shower 1187616223 M * Bertl I'm already back :) 1187616234 M * Bertl all clean now *G* 1187616269 M * Baby Bertl: why is all the syscall and clone stuff redefined in the source for vcmd? 1187616278 M * Baby I couldn't even get it compiled :( 1187616302 M * igraltist Bertl, i try it 1187616310 M * Bertl Baby: the problem is that most archs do not define syscalls (and the invocations) properly 1187616323 M * Bertl Baby: well, not really the archs, more the glibc or dietlibc 1187616349 M * Bertl Baby: but feel free to rip that out if your *libc does that properly 1187616379 M * Baby ah oki, thanks 1187616390 M * Baby I'll try to see if it works that way :) 1187616412 M * Baby I also had to replace clone by syscall(SYS_clone..... 1187616417 M * Baby thanks! 1187616418 M * Bertl Baby: note that clone() and sys_clone() differ 1187616607 M * Baby i had an error with clone 1187616612 M * Baby it didn'T compile 1187616642 M * Baby vcmd.c: In function 'do_exec': 1187616642 M * Baby vcmd.c:1021: warning: passing argument 1 of 'clone' makes pointer from integer without a cast 1187616642 M * Baby vcmd.c:1021: error: too few arguments to function 'clone' 1187616642 M * Baby make[1]: *** [vcmd] Error 1 1187616714 M * Bertl yeah, that looks like a broken clone from your headers 1187616731 M * Bertl did you compile with dietlibc or uClibc or glibc? 1187616746 M * dna hi, i'm running out of semaphores with vs2.0.1 and apache2. apache2 on the guest uses 3 of them. if i restart apache2 on the guest the semaphore count on the host increase to +9 semaphores, but on the guest i see only 3 1187616773 M * Bertl dna: upgrade! 1187616809 M * dna is it a problem of vserver or apache ? 1187616857 M * Baby uclibc 1187616915 M * Baby sys_clone works more or less like fork isn't it? 1187616934 M * Bertl you might try to use the vcmd syscall definition for clone, and just rename it to v_clone or so 1187616952 M * Bertl yes, the syscall works similar to fork() 1187616960 M * Baby hmm might be, i'll try that :) 1187616963 M * Bertl and you want to use the 'simple' version 1187616974 M * Bertl sys_clone(2) not sys_clone(5) 1187616980 M * Baby yup 1187617073 M * Bertl that might actually be a good idea for vcmd in general, if you have a patch for that, feel free to send it to me (renaming the syscalls to avoid clashes) 1187617170 M * Baby yup, as soon as I get it working I'll send you a patch 1187617186 M * Baby you might also want my patches for unionfs for making it work with vserver? 1187617274 M * RoeyMcLovin Baby: oh heya 1187617279 M * RoeyMcLovin long time no see 1187617284 M * RoeyMcLovin Hey all 1187617287 M * RoeyMcLovin Bertl!! :) 1187617303 M * Bertl wb RoeyMcLovin? 1187617316 M * RoeyMcLovin Bertl: Is there any idea about when vserver will get integrated into the mainstream kernel? 1187617322 M * RoeyMcLovin Bertl: it's a reference to Superbad 1187617333 M * Baby hi :) 1187617345 Q * Aiken Remote host closed the connection 1187617371 M * Bertl RoeyMcLovin: probably never .. but more and more virtualization is going into mainline (large parts are identical to Linux-VServer and thus get used there) 1187617444 M * Bertl Baby: is unionfs now in mainline? 1187617728 M * Baby don't think so... at least not in 2.6.21 1187617739 M * Baby but it will be if it's not 1187617801 M * Bertl how did you solve the missing nameidata stuff? 1187618143 M * RoeyMcLovin Baby: btw, I love the drawing on your web site. Wheredja get it again? (I remember asking you if you drew it) 1187618306 M * Baby thanks!!! 1187618317 M * Baby from (down right part of the page) 1187618325 M * Baby the original one was in green 1187618334 M * Baby I changed the colours and some other stuff 1187618339 M * Baby it's really lovely :) 1187618348 M * Baby I wish I could draw like that myself! 1187618379 M * Baby http://chasethestars.com/themes/ 1187618390 M * Baby "Girl in Green" 1187618950 M * Bertl okay, translocating ... back shortly ... 1187618953 N * Bertl Bertl_oO 1187619133 Q * yarihm Quit: Leaving 1187622105 Q * jmcaricand Read error: Connection reset by peer 1187622980 N * ensc Guest1398 1187622990 J * ensc ~irc-ensc@p54B4D768.dip.t-dialin.net 1187623099 Q * Guest1398 Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1187623198 N * Bertl_oO Bertl 1187623200 M * Bertl back now 1187623806 M * RoeyMcLovin Baby: ahhhh :) 1187623813 M * RoeyMcLovin Baby: there is polykarbon.com, btw, for anime tutorials 1187623844 M * RoeyMcLovin Bertl: hello again Herbert :) 1187625051 Q * ftx_ Read error: Connection reset by peer 1187625076 J * ftx_ ~gerrit@dslb-084-062-241-003.pools.arcor-ip.net 1187625498 Q * transacid Read error: Connection reset by peer 1187625810 J * transacid ~transacid@transacid.de 1187625869 Q * ftx_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1187626066 M * Baby RoeyMcLovin: they teach u how to draw anime??? 1187626071 M * Baby I definitely want to learn! 1187626363 J * ftx_ ~gerrit@dslb-084-062-230-158.pools.arcor-ip.net 1187626512 J * bonbons ~bonbons@2001:960:7ab:0:20b:5dff:fec7:6b33 1187626641 Q * fatgoose Quit: fatgoose 1187626669 M * RoeyMcLovin Baby: oooh :) 1187626673 M * RoeyMcLovin Baby: yeah! Polykarbon.com 1187626675 M * RoeyMcLovin Baby: definitely 1187626679 M * RoeyMcLovin Baby: btw, see superbad 1187626688 M * RoeyMcLovin SEE SUPERBAD 1187626707 M * RoeyMcLovin Baby: also, it'd be nice to see a Spanish-language anime 1187626712 M * RoeyMcLovin and a Hebrew-language anime 1187626715 M * RoeyMcLovin not just subtitles 1187626719 M * RoeyMcLovin but the cultures as well 1187626720 M * RoeyMcLovin oof 1187626729 M * RoeyMcLovin I wish this thing could have gotten more traction by now (anime in general) 1187626904 M * Baby :))))) 1187626913 M * Baby do you draw anime? 1187626923 M * Baby please tell me you do! 1187626924 M * RoeyMcLovin http://roey.freeshell.org/mystuff/art/multiplex-me4.jpg 1187626928 M * RoeyMcLovin also, 1187626936 M * RoeyMcLovin all the other stuff in there, 1187626942 M * RoeyMcLovin including shomer2 which I am doing now 1187626946 M * RoeyMcLovin shomer means guard in hebrew 1187626956 M * RoeyMcLovin Baby: oh, so you like anime? cool :) :) 1187626967 M * RoeyMcLovin Baby: btw, there is a linguistics chat in irc://irc.freenode.org/#linguistics 1187626981 M * RoeyMcLovin Baby: we have Spanish speakers from Spain, Israel and all of South America 1187626990 M * RoeyMcLovin Baby: Erinn used to be there 1187626991 M * RoeyMcLovin too 1187627010 M * RoeyMcLovin Baby: ironically, I brought her in and then she banned me from #debian-women but whatever ;) 1187627044 M * igraltist /etc/init.d/networking restart 1187627044 M * igraltist Reconfiguring network interfaces...SIOCSIFADDR: Permission denied 1187627053 M * igraltist why is it not allow to restart 1187627056 M * RoeyMcLovin Baby: OH, maybe you could help me translate something? 1187627058 M * igraltist in the guestdomain 1187627068 M * RoeyMcLovin igraltist: missing a capabilities (caps) 1187627084 M * RoeyMcLovin igraltist: guests cannot reconfigure their network interfaces 1187627096 M * igraltist take thj guest automatic the route from the host? 1187627103 M * Baby cool!!! RoeyMcLovin I'll help you of course!! 1187627103 M * RoeyMcLovin igraltist: if they could, then if they were compromised the ywould be able to play games with the rest of the system's routing 1187627106 M * igraltist the =the 1187627108 M * RoeyMcLovin hehe thanks 1187627113 M * Baby I might also ask you for help too ;) 1187627123 M * RoeyMcLovin hehehe 1187627127 M * Baby do you know renpy? 1187627130 M * RoeyMcLovin Baby: ok, "Hi!! Long time no see! What are you doing these days? All's good by me" 1187627133 M * RoeyMcLovin renpy? hmm 1187627138 M * RoeyMcLovin python renderer? 1187627146 M * RoeyMcLovin I've heard of renpy 1187627149 M * Baby www.renpy.org 1187627151 M * RoeyMcLovin but I dont' remember which context 1187627152 M * RoeyMcLovin ahhh thanks 1187627158 M * Baby I'm maintaining it in Debian 1187627169 M * Baby and I'd love to do something with it myself 1187627180 M * Baby but my drawing capabilities are.. hmm... limited :P 1187627181 Q * Piet Remote host closed the connection 1187627192 M * Baby oh oh, server error :( 1187627200 M * RoeyMcLovin oh so that's why it's taking time loading 1187627201 M * RoeyMcLovin hmm 1187627202 M * RoeyMcLovin ok 1187627209 M * igraltist so i must set the network up for guest in the host domain 1187627216 M * RoeyMcLovin igraltist: correct 1187627225 J * Piet ~piet@tor.noreply.org 1187627226 M * RoeyMcLovin igraltist: in fact, there's a configuration file for the guest that yous pecify 1187627234 M * RoeyMcLovin igraltist: forgot where it is, but Bertl or Baby know 1187627270 M * igraltist today is my first day i try the vserver, thatswhy i asked so much :) 1187627275 M * RoeyMcLovin ahh :) 1187627278 M * RoeyMcLovin igraltist: what language do you speak btw 1187627280 M * RoeyMcLovin other than English? 1187627286 M * RoeyMcLovin (I ask because I love languages :) 1187627290 M * Baby :))) 1187627292 M * igraltist german 1187627296 M * RoeyMcLovin toll :) 1187627307 M * igraltist echt :) 1187627322 M * igraltist for this how bad my english is 1187627325 M * RoeyMcLovin von wo kommt Sie auf Deutschland? 1187627332 J * arcil ~arcil@p5B0757C4.dip.t-dialin.net 1187627337 M * RoeyMcLovin come to irc://irc.freenode.org/#linguistics :) 1187627343 M * RoeyMcLovin 1187627379 M * RoeyMcLovin igraltist: *von wo auf Deutschland Sie kommt? 1187627388 M * igraltist derzeit lebe ich in der naehe von stuttgart 1187627402 M * igraltist aber kommen tue ich aus der nähe von leipzig 1187627404 M * Baby Ich wohne in Deutschland auch :P 1187627412 M * RoeyMcLovin whoah :) :) 1187627416 M * RoeyMcLovin Baby: really??? 1187627418 M * Baby ja 1187627422 M * RoeyMcLovin wow 1187627424 M * Baby Ilmenau, Thüringen 1187627425 M * RoeyMcLovin Baby: :P 1187627425 M * RoeyMcLovin hehehe 1187627430 M * RoeyMcLovin Baby: and I thought you're in SF 1187627437 M * Baby aber mein Deutsch ist nicht sehr gut 1187627441 M * RoeyMcLovin ahhhh 1187627448 M * RoeyMcLovin Wie alter Du, Baby? 1187627457 M * RoeyMcLovin [24,27] ? 1187627472 M * igraltist baby normalerweie < 3 1187627478 M * Baby XDDD :) 1187627481 M * RoeyMcLovin normalerweie? 1187627484 M * igraltist s 1187627488 M * Baby ja, richtig :) 1187627489 M * igraltist normalerweise 1187627494 M * RoeyMcLovin Ich ken barely verstehe 1187627497 M * RoeyMcLovin *verstehen 1187627504 M * RoeyMcLovin normalwise? 1187627520 M * Baby usually 1187627538 M * RoeyMcLovin Ich habe genemmt korses in college 1187627547 M * RoeyMcLovin Baby: ahhhhhhhhh.. makes sense, see, "normal-wise" 1187627549 M * RoeyMcLovin interesting 1187627555 M * Baby :) 1187627588 M * RoeyMcLovin igraltist: kom bitte zum irc://irc.freenode.org/#linguistics, ja? 1187627590 M * Baby aber igraltist is richtig, normalerweise einer baby is <3 ;) 1187627598 M * RoeyMcLovin :) 1187627611 A * Baby grins :) 1187627793 Q * Julius Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1187628281 J * Julius ~julius@p57B27F1B.dip.t-dialin.net 1187628679 Q * pmenier Quit: pmenier 1187629090 N * BobR_afk_ BobR 1187629204 Q * Julius Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1187629306 M * igraltist how can i eanable iptables in a guestdomain? 1187629307 M * igraltist WARNING: Error inserting x_tables (/lib/modules/2.6.22.3-0.11/kernel/net/netfilter/x_tables.ko): Operation not permitted 1187629327 M * igraltist the hostdomain there is it enabled 1187629340 M * Borg- igraltist: you cant.. there is a patch for such stuff.. but AFAIK still work in progress 1187629346 N * BobR BobR_oO 1187629405 M * igraltist hmm so can i not use the guestdomain to handle the internet connection? 1187629427 M * igraltist i was thinkg to put the proxy and shorewall in a guest 1187629547 M * nanonyme hm, me too actually 1187629624 M * igraltist so i must managed it on the host, puh not so good 1187629648 M * igraltist because in the moment pax and rsbac not working , they need some fix 1187629982 M * bXi are there people who have a fail2ban running in a guest? 1187630217 N * DoberMann[PullA] DoberMann 1187630432 Q * phreak`` Server closed connection 1187630456 J * phreak`` ~phreak``@deimos.barfoo.org 1187630767 J * fatgoose ~samuel@206-248-170-5.dsl.teksavvy.com 1187631321 M * igraltist has someone test vserver and kvm together? 1187631419 M * igraltist when i have 2 nics one for the internet the other for lan, if i add an bridge to the so that the guestdomain can get an other networkmask as the lan ip 1187631430 M * igraltist to build a dmz 1187631535 M * Radiance hmm, how do i make sure that the very first ip is a specific ip instead of a private ip ? 1187631566 M * Radiance i thought by setting it in ../0/ip but the vserver keeps taking the private ip as the first 1187631782 M * Radiance that private ip sits in ../2/ip 1187632740 J * dallas ~dallas@sf.newdream.net 1187632744 P * dallas 1187633547 J * bzed ~bzed@dslb-088-068-213-251.pools.arcor-ip.net 1187633580 Q * cohan Server closed connection 1187633581 J * cohan ~cohan@koniczek.de 1187633730 M * Bertl igraltist: kvm guests side by side with Linux-VServer geusts? or Linux-VServer inside a kvm guest? 1187634003 J * Julius ~julius@p57B27F1B.dip.t-dialin.net 1187634683 Q * Julius Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1187634983 J * jmcaricand ~jmcarican@d90-144-62-7.cust.tele2.fr 1187635204 M * Radiance BertI, what ya think mate ? :) 1187635227 M * Bertl didn't get the question :) 1187635246 M * Radiance i need to have a specific ip to be the first and then the rest, but for some reason the vserver keeps taking the private ip as the first and then the rest of the internet ip's 1187635280 M * Radiance hope you can advise heh 1187635289 M * Bertl the order should be the same than the 'alphanumerical' order of the interface entries 1187635315 M * Bertl i.e. interface/0 should come before interface/2 1187635357 M * Radiance well i tripple checked that in ../0/ip the specific ip is there and the the rest goes from 1 to 11 (one of those is 192.168.1.3 and the rest is internet ips) 1187635359 M * Bertl what tools/kernel are you using? 1187635383 M * Radiance 2.6.17.14 kernel 1187635388 M * Radiance and 210 1187635419 M * Bertl quite ancient, what does /proc/virtnet// contain? 1187635483 M * Radiance ok, lemme start the vserver 1187635545 M * Radiance hmm 1187635549 M * Radiance it lists the ip's from 0 to 11 1187635556 M * Radiance at 0: i see the ip i wish 1187635565 M * Bertl so that is fine then 1187635574 M * Radiance but in the vserver itself when i type ifconfig or ip a then it shows the private ip and not the ip i wish 1187635602 M * Radiance inet 192.168.1.3/24 brd 192.168.1.255 scope global eth0 1187635603 M * Bertl well, it will show them in the order they were created and assigned to the interface 1187635614 M * Radiance and then the rest on as ... scope global secondary eth0 1187635643 J * Julius ~julius@p57B27F1B.dip.t-dialin.net 1187635662 M * Radiance yes, true, but why does ifconfig show the private ip on eth0 in the vserver and ip a also shows the private ip as the first one ? 1187635674 M * Radiance despite the info in /proc/ 1187635698 M * Bertl hmm? 1187635748 M * Radiance well, when i type ifconfig then i get this: eth0 .. inet addr:192.168.1.4 Bcast:192.168.1.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 1187635751 M * Radiance (in the vserver) 1187635760 M * Bertl if you compar the output of 'ip addr ls' on the host, with the one from the guest, it should be identical, except for the fact that only IPs are shown which belong to the guest 1187635765 M * Radiance normally i should see the first ip i assigned in interfaces/0 1187635765 M * Bertl *compare 1187635788 M * Radiance (tried change the private ip several times but no difference) 1187635793 M * Bertl remember, Linux-VServer does IP isolation, not interface virtualization 1187635830 M * Radiance i know, but this used to work fine, the server was moved to another dc 1187635835 M * Radiance let me compare that 1187635853 M * Bertl I guess simply the host ip order changed there 1187635899 M * Radiance only new ip's were assigned, nothing else 1187635923 M * Radiance ok, both on the host and in the vserver show: inet 192.168.1.4/24 brd 192.168.1.255 scope global eth0 1187635942 M * Radiance while it should show the other ip i defined in 0 1187635957 M * Radiance all the other ip's are scope global secondary eth0 1187635975 M * Bertl but 192.168.1.4/24 is assigned to the guest too, yes? 1187635992 M * Radiance it is assigned to the guest only 1187636003 M * Radiance it does not exist on the host or so 1187636004 M * Bertl so what"s wrong about that then? 1187636024 M * Bertl it definitely does exist on the host :) 1187636035 M * Radiance well yes, if you look at it like that :) 1187636043 M * Radiance hmm lemme check something 1187636128 Q * Julius Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1187636188 M * Radiance nope 1187636203 M * matti Hi B. 1187636205 M * Radiance it's true, the very first ip in the vserver is the private ip 1187636212 M * Radiance and not the specific ip i put in ../0/ip 1187636229 M * Radiance eth0 shows the private ip and not the other one as it used to be 1187636241 M * Radiance (in the vserver when typing ifconfig or ip a) 1187636386 M * igraltist Bertl, vserver with linuxguest and kvm with a windowsguest 1187636424 M * igraltist ok this is in the moment not so important 1187636448 M * Radiance for some reason i can put any internet ip there and choose one which should be seen first by the services running in the vserver, but when i enter the private range ip it is declared to be the first ip in the vserver hmm 1187637201 Q * fatgoose Remote host closed the connection 1187637209 M * Bertl igraltist: should work, yes 1187637233 J * fatgoose ~samuel@206-248-170-5.dsl.teksavvy.com 1187637811 T * * http://linux-vserver.org/ | latest stable 2.2.0.3, 2.0.3-rc3, devel 2.3.0.17, stable+grsec 2.0.2.1, 2.2.0.3 | util-vserver-0.30.213 | libvserver-1.0.2 & vserver-utils-1.0.3 | He who asks a question is a fool for a minute; he who doesn't ask is a fool for a lifetime -- share the gained knowledge on the Wiki, and we'll forget about the minute ;) 1187637811 T * Bertl - 1187637974 J * ema ~ema@fw.galliera.it 1187638298 J * yarihm ~yarihm@84-75-109-39.dclient.hispeed.ch 1187638864 Q * ftx_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1187638988 Q * jmcaricand Quit: KVIrc 3.2.4 Anomalies http://www.kvirc.net/ 1187639154 J * Piet_ ~piet@tor.noreply.org 1187639250 Q * Piet Remote host closed the connection 1187641899 M * Radiance BertI, what i need to do, most likely (?), is set the scope global eth0 ip to the one i need and make the private ip join the rest as scope global secondary eth0 1187642169 M * Bertl there can only be one primary per network 1187642200 M * Bertl but I assume that on your other system, a different ip was the primary (or first assigned ip) 1187642243 M * Radiance for the vserver an internet usable ip was assigned in interfaces/0/ip 1187642260 M * Radiance then the other 10 followed and one of them was the private range ip 1187642273 M * fb Bertl: from a host server i can ping every vserver ip, but nmap says it cannot scan because host doesn't answer to ping, and with -P0 option doesn't see any opened ports. Is that because some specific nmap's bind? (I don't know nmap sources) 1187642302 M * Radiance now no matter what i put in interfaces/0/ip , the private range ip gets always listed as the number one in the vserver and also seen from the host 1187642369 M * Bertl fb: you are trying to nmap your own host? 1187642379 M * Radiance when i do "ip a" i get this: inet 192.168.1.3/24 brd 192.168.1.255 scope global eth0 and then the rest like inet x.x.x.x/24 brd x.x.x.255 scope global secondary eth0 1187642382 M * fb my own vserver 1187642383 M * Radiance you see the difference ? 1187642416 M * fb from the host server 1187642423 M * Bertl Radiance: do you have dev entries in your /etc/vservers// ? 1187644001 M * Bertl no, I mean the _actual_ order shown in 'ip addr ls' _on the host_ 1187644020 M * Bertl it has nothing to do with the interfaces/ part 1187644031 M * FHTech There are programs for restriction VPS on the traffic ? 1187644032 M * Radiance ah you mean change them real time while the vserver is running ? (using ip ?) 1187644077 M * Bertl FHTech: assuming you mean network traffic, then yes, there is tc 1187644121 M * FHTech Bertl: tc ? site ? 1187644144 M * Radiance just google for +tc +bandwidth +traffic 1187644152 M * Radiance dunno the site by head 1187644168 M * FHTech ok, thx 1187644179 M * Bertl http://lartc.org/ 1187644188 M * Radiance yeah thats the one 1187644222 M * FHTech Bertl: Thanks 1187644245 M * Radiance BertI, if you humor me, what would be the best way to use iproute and switch the order (while the vserver is running i assume) ? 1187644280 M * Bertl hmm, probably removing and re-adding the private one might be enough 1187644296 M * Radiance ok i'll give it a try, seems indeed logical 1187644332 Q * FHTech Quit: FHTech 1187644594 M * Radiance BertI, i removed it and after adding it it still shows it as the first. What i did is remove it, entered the vserver and started directadmin which accepted the right ip, got out and added the private ip again. It looks like things are working... 1187644613 M * Radiance could this be done a different way instead of this dirty switch ? :) 1187644661 M * Bertl assign the public ip for that guest as /32 maybe? 1187644715 M * Radiance in the interfaces/0/prefix ? 1187644726 M * Bertl yep 1187644765 M * Radiance ok, i'll try that 1187644769 J * dna_ ~dna@122-203-dsl.kielnet.net 1187644896 M * igraltist when you do apply the grsecurity patch to the kernel, do you first the vserver patch apply or the grsecurity? 1187644922 M * Radiance you should check the merged patches by harry 1187645118 M * igraltist i have dont need the grsecurity, i need the pax patch 1187645179 Q * dna Ping timeout: 482 seconds 1187645229 M * fb igraltist: so grap harry's patch and don't turn grsec on? 1187645233 M * fb grab* 1187645266 M * igraltist hmm this is a good idea :) 1187645413 M * igraltist but tommor cu 1187645440 M * Bertl cya 1187645525 M * fb Bertl: I'll send a report to fyodor, but also tomorrow. have a nice day/evening or what's where you are :) 1187645584 M * Bertl fb: evening, yes, tx! 1187645641 J * Aiken ~james@ppp121-45-255-55.lns2.bne4.internode.on.net 1187646183 Q * meandtheshel1 Quit: Leaving. 1187646757 M * Radiance BertI, i'll test that /32 option in a bit and let you know, might help others in such situations :) 1187647272 Q * duckx Remote host closed the connection 1187647439 M * Bertl okay, translocating ... 1187647445 N * Bertl Bertl_oO 1187647979 Q * arcil Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1187648902 Q * arachnist Quit: brb/bbl 1187649859 N * Bertl_oO Bertl 1187649863 M * Bertl back now ... 1187650084 M * mnemoc daniel_hozac: hi, there is any reason to test on util-vserver's configure for tools you need on runtime? may that be removed? 1187650099 M * daniel_hozac we need to know the paths. 1187650110 M * mnemoc oh :( 1187650113 M * daniel_hozac without a full path, you may be executing things inside the guest. 1187650179 M * mnemoc daniel_hozac: can you imagine a decent way to pass the path to the sandbox (DESTDIR alike) to the configure? 1187650214 M * daniel_hozac why can' 1187650219 M * daniel_hozac t you run configure inside? 1187650234 M * mnemoc daniel_hozac: i want to cross compile it 1187650252 M * daniel_hozac and the distro you're using doesn't exist for your arch? 1187650313 M * mnemoc daniel_hozac: i don't want to have a compiler on the host 1187650356 M * daniel_hozac uh, so how are you going to compile it? 1187650371 M * daniel_hozac if it's a cross-compile, you're gonna need the cross-compiler on there, no? 1187650379 M * mnemoc daniel_hozac: sure i have it 1187650401 M * mnemoc daniel_hozac: my problem is with the configure 1187650421 M * mnemoc daniel_hozac: currently i need to populate a config.cache file what is pretty ugly 1187650439 M * daniel_hozac and, why is that? 1187650477 M * mnemoc daniel_hozac: because the tools on the machine used to compile the target distribution is different than the one i'm creating on the sandbox 1187650637 M * mnemoc daniel_hozac: i want to compile a vserver host on a xeon to run on ppc64 1187650663 M * daniel_hozac as long as the distro is the same, the paths should be the same, no? 1187650727 M * mnemoc daniel_hozac: if the same packages are installed, yes 1187650775 M * mnemoc daniel_hozac: do you think it's ok to install iptables and vlan inside a guest just to be able to cross compile util-vserver ? 1187650791 M * mnemoc i dont't 1187650808 M * daniel_hozac it's a build requirement. 1187650827 M * daniel_hozac if you want to build util-vserver, you're going to need the programs it requires. 1187650840 Q * ema Quit: leaving 1187651517 J * Supaplex ~supaplex@166-70-62-194.ip.xmission.com 1187651527 M * Supaplex hey folks =) 1187651563 M * Bertl hey Supaplex! 1187651682 M * Supaplex how's it going? 1187651758 M * Bertl fine so far .. not too much work left here in Boston :) 1187651842 M * Supaplex kewlios 1187652004 M * Bertl well, it wasn't so much work, more fun actually :) 1187652035 M * Bertl talking with smart folks and making sure that Linux-VServer and OLPC go along quite nicely 1187652060 M * mnemoc uh 1187652184 M * Supaplex really... 1187653179 Q * dna_ Quit: Verlassend 1187653298 Q * yarihm Quit: This computer has gone to sleep 1187653774 Q * daniel_hozac Remote host closed the connection 1187654278 J * daniel_hozac ~daniel@c-051472d5.08-230-73746f22.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se