1185580874 Q * jescheng Remote host closed the connection
1185580884 J * jescheng ~jescheng@proxy-sjc-2.cisco.com
1185583831 J * DoberMann_ ~james@AToulouse-156-1-35-195.w81-49.abo.wanadoo.fr
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1185584203 Q * bzed Quit: Leaving
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1185585804 M * Supaplex grr gentoo guests. blah
1185585831 P * eSa| Leaving
1185585878 M * Bertl okay, off to bed now ... have a good one everyone!
1185585884 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ
1185586203 M * Supaplex easy for you to say! :P
1185586209 M * Supaplex hehe jk.
1185586722 J * jmcaricand ~jm@d90-144-67-63.cust.tele2.fr
1185587110 Q * jmcaricand Quit: Parti
1185588534 Q * dragonheart Quit: life lost - the quest to regain begins
1185589918 J * wenchien ~wenchien@59-105-176-11.adsl.static.seed.net.tw
1185589984 Q * FireEgl Read error: Connection reset by peer
1185590984 J * FireEgl FireEgl@4.0.0.0.1.0.0.0.c.d.4.8.0.c.5.0.1.0.0.2.ip6.arpa
1185591372 J * Aiken ~james@ppp121-45-205-95.lns1.bne1.internode.on.net
1185593523 M * daniel_hozac Hollow: http://svn.linux-vserver.org/projects/dietlibc/changeset/10?format=diff&new=10 is breaking my build on x86_64. why do we need lib/nice.c and lib/__nice.c?
1185593573 N * DoberMann_ DoberMann[ZZZzzz]
1185595927 M * eyck good morning
1185596860 J * meandtheshel1 ~markus@85.127.116.66
1185597690 Q * UukGoblin Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1185599995 M * Supaplex ay'
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1185600943 J * meebey meebey@booster.qnetp.net
1185602401 Q * jescheng Remote host closed the connection
1185602414 J * jescheng ~jescheng@proxy-sjc-2.cisco.com
1185605736 M * matti Morning :-)
1185606704 M * Supaplex hi
1185607032 M * matti :)
1185608105 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl
1185608109 M * Bertl morning folks!
1185608246 M * eyck morning Bertl
1185608265 M * Bertl hey eyck! matti! how's going?
1185608499 Q * Hunger Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1185608574 M * matti Morning Bertl, eyck 
1185608595 M * matti Bertl: Not bad. My 23 b-day in about 4 days :)
1185608628 M * Bertl ah, nice, mine (not 23rd) was yesterday :)
1185608636 M * matti Beautiful day today.
1185608646 A * matti gives Bertl a b-day hug!
1185608652 M * matti Bertl: :-)
1185608662 M * matti Bertl: I wish you all the best!
1185608662 M * matti ;]
1185608682 M * Bertl matti: and for your 23rd too!
1185608687 M * matti Thanks!
1185608703 M * Bertl I hope you are going to celebrate with friends and so
1185608718 M * Bertl eating cake and such ...
1185608729 M * matti Heh, not really.
1185608760 M * matti ;/
1185608786 M * Bertl why not?
1185608798 M * matti I am not very people person, and I am for most of the time lonely. After work mainly.
1185608844 M * matti And since I moved to Cambridge, I didn't have time to move around and explore. I am living 10 min by walk from my work place, which makes exploring harder tho.
1185608845 M * Bertl well, you ahve about 4 days left, it's not hard to invite a few folks from work to 'your' bday-party 
1185608865 M * Bertl (preferable those you like to talk to :)
1185608865 M * matti Heheh.
1185608880 M * matti So, when do you want to came over? ;p
1185608887 M * matti ;D
1185608892 M * Bertl I would, if I was in the vicinity
1185608903 M * matti :)
1185609095 M * matti Hm, I feel old.
1185609109 M * matti 23... doh, time is running fast.
1185609110 M * matti ;]
1185609689 M * eyck happy birthday
1185610287 M * Hollow spam
1185610290 M * Hollow Bertl: :)
1185610366 M * Bertl Hollow: yeah, I'm trying to spam you down :)
1185610375 M * Hollow :)
1185610427 M * meandtheshel1 I hate birthdays - remembers me of moving yet another year closer to dead ;-]
1185610472 M * meandtheshel1 dying ... what a nonsense ...
1185610473 M * Bertl reminds me of the half full/empty glass optimist/pessimist metapher
1185610500 M * meandtheshel1 I prefer the ever full glass if you don't mind :)
1185610508 J * eSa| ~esa@ip-87-238-2-45.adsl.cheapnet.it
1185610514 J * DavidS ~david@p54813520.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
1185610520 M * Bertl wb eSa|! DavidS!
1185610526 M * Bertl meandtheshel1: eternal life?
1185610534 M * DavidS Bertl: yo!
1185610558 M * meandtheshel1 Bertl: yes - I'd like to be immortal
1185610603 M * Bertl I'm not sure I want that .. also depends on the quality of that immortality
1185610649 M * meandtheshel1 I am very sure about that
1185610671 M * Hollow Bertl: 58 subscribers now
1185610701 M * Bertl meandtheshel1: e.g. what if you have a really bad day, and suddenly your physical state is preserved for all eternity?
1185610728 M * Bertl meandtheshel1: (so that you will have a bad day forever :)
1185610733 M * Hollow how many subscribers did we have with the old list?
1185610737 M * Bertl sec
1185610755 M * meandtheshel1 Bertl: well, I am a free person, physically and mentally well - I do not have bad days - at least none I can't cope with :)
1185610774 M * Bertl Hollow: 667
1185610808 M * Hollow ok, let's see how many resubscribe :)
1185610810 M * Supaplex nite tyme 4 me. l8rz
1185610822 M * Bertl meandtheshel1: ah, well, okay, let's say you get 80, with all the problem of old age, and then you stop aging :)
1185610847 M * meandtheshel1 better than dying ...
1185610858 M * meandtheshel1 whatever - is gmane up-to-date
1185610873 M * meandtheshel1 I am not getting stuff from the ml since a week or so ...
1185610879 M * Bertl meandtheshel1: or what if you would know you will not age anymore, but you can still die of whatever disease?
1185610890 M * Hollow meandtheshel1: http://list.linux-vserver.org/archive?mss:1:200707:bgbgpcnanbgnpdoaffef :)
1185610905 M * Bertl meandtheshel1: yeah, please subscribe to the new list
1185610963 M * meandtheshel1 new list? 
1185610963 M * meandtheshel1 /me stares around nervously 
1185610986 M * Bertl well, the Linux-VServer list stopped working on the 18th this month
1185610987 M * meandtheshel1 oh my god  - did I miss another important thing ...
1185610994 M * meandtheshel1 ah
1185611015 M * meandtheshel1 that's why ... I thought folks where on vacation ... :)
1185611020 M * Bertl and as we could not reach the admin for, hmm, 6 months or so ... we decided to make a new one :)
1185611037 M * meandtheshel1 URL?
1185611058 M * Bertl http://list.linux-vserver.org/
1185611064 A * meandtheshel1 checks
1185611083 M * meandtheshel1 mailman?
1185611088 M * Hollow ezmlm
1185611099 M * meandtheshel1 ah - ok
1185611116 M * Hollow will try to make the archive look a bit more like our other pages... i only copied the css for now
1185611122 M * meandtheshel1 Hollow: so gmane is not up-to-date - yes?
1185611132 M * Hollow no idea.. 
1185611135 M * meandtheshel1 I see 
1185611140 M * Bertl meandtheshel1: no, probably not
1185611150 M * Bertl meandtheshel1: wouldn't hurt ti notify them (somehow)
1185611153 M * meandtheshel1 Bertl: yeah - guess so ...
1185611177 M * meandtheshel1 Since I am surely not the only one who missed it completely ...
1185611189 M * Bertl wrong approach :)
1185611379 M * meandtheshel1 what? Gmane?
1185611410 M * Bertl no, the assumption (and the conclusion you are jumping to)
1185611419 M * meandtheshel1 ok :)
1185611479 M * meandtheshel1 but why ... a lot of folks use gmane and so subscribe to the Linux-VServer ml via gmane
1185611507 M * meandtheshel1 it's about the unique interface for a bunch of mls
1185611544 M * Bertl thus it won't hurt to notify them :)
1185611563 M * meandtheshel1 yep
1185611650 M * Bertl Hollow: could you add the following header to the ML mails?
1185611650 M * Bertl List-Id: vserver.list.linux-vserver.org
1185611663 M * Hollow sure
1185611679 M * Bertl I think that will help some folks to get the mail sorted correctly
1185611719 M * Hollow done
1185611722 M * meandtheshel1 shouldn't the channel topic mention the new list?
1185611788 M * Bertl Hollow: excellent!
1185611818 M * Bertl meandtheshel1: not sure, it is in the same place, maybe we should add a news entry on the wiki though
1185611829 J * ktwilight ~ktwilight@124.97-66-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be
1185611915 M * meandtheshel1 http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.linux.vserver current status at gmane
1185611943 M * Hollow URL is kind of outdated :)
1185612007 M * meandtheshel1 Hollow: very much so ...
1185612093 M * meandtheshel1 and yes - no posts after 18th July http://news.gmane.org/gmane.linux.vserver
1185612099 M * meandtheshel1 :(
1185612176 Q * ktwilight_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1185612188 M * Hollow seems we have to get in contact with Lars
1185612230 J * Hunger Hunger.hu@Hunger.hu
1185612344 M * Hollow i subscribe mail-archive.com to the new list.. but i did not find any address for gmane..
1185612478 M * meandtheshel1 larsi+gmane@gnus.org
1185612516 M * Hollow yeah, but mail-archive.com just tells you the address you need to subscribe to get it working..
1185612830 M * meandtheshel1 hm - probably you have to subscribe again http://gmane.org/subscribe.php ... did the ml software change? what has been used before ezmlm?
1185613275 M * FBW Anyone know if the apache2 and mysql pid file errors in the gentoo init.d scripts are being caused by vserver somehow?
1185613382 M * Hollow FBW: depends on your version(s)...
1185613408 M * Hollow since baselayout-2 has a much more pedantic start-stop-daemon, some init scripts have to be fixed, but they are not in stable packages yet..
1185613439 M * Hollow i'm not sure if the apache 2.0 init script is broken, but the 2.2 one works fine here
1185613468 M * FBW Well in general if I encounter these problems, what would I need to do to fix it?
1185613479 M * Hollow and the mysql init script is horribly broken anyway, the maintainer must have been heavily on crack ;)
1185613511 M * FBW Yeah I started reading the mysql one, that guy must be trying to win some perl records
1185613530 M * Hollow FBW: if you are lucky, a ebuild in ~arch has fixed it (true for most errors), or it even works, although the init script said it didn't
1185613580 M * Hollow the latter one is especially true for spamd
1185613592 M * FBW Well that's the problem, I'm getting very erratic start/stop behavior, and need to kill processes half the time
1185613615 M * Hollow well, spamd is the only init script i encounter problems with nowadays ..
1185613621 M * Hollow apache, mysql works fine here
1185613632 M * FBW So, just go ~x86 and hope for the best? (using normal emerges atm)
1185613661 M * Hollow yeah, i would recommend apache 2.2 anyway, we have put a lot of work in there to make it even more comfortable than 2.0 :)
1185613709 M * Hollow it will soon be stabilized too
1185613710 M * FBW You don't happen to know in which file I add the keyword again to have it by default?
1185613728 M * Hollow  /etc/make.conf
1185613738 M * FBW What will fix it in general in the future then?
1185613738 M * Hollow but i wouldnÄt recommend to competely switch to ~x86
1185613749 M * FBW Ah
1185613753 M * Hollow it's just too much updates on a production machine
1185613795 M * Hollow echo net-www/apache >> /etc/portage/package.keywords
1185613797 M * Hollow :)
1185613865 M * FBW So if you say it'll be fixed, what needs to be done for these workarounds to be a thing of the past?
1185613871 M * FBW New baselayout in standard stages?
1185613877 M * Hollow yep
1185613887 M * FBW Any clue when that will happen? :)
1185613887 M * Hollow as soon as baselayout-2 is stable..
1185613914 M * FBW By the way, any reason for me to switch from 1.13 to baselayout 2?
1185613924 M * Hollow not really, but expect it to happen in 2007 ;)
1185613927 M * Hollow yes
1185613940 M * Hollow baselayout-2 is supported :D
1185613985 M * Hollow baselayout-1.13 is obsoleted by 2.0 (and it never was stable or used by many people)
1185613995 M * Hollow (except for vserver folks probably :P)
1185614008 M * FBW How do I switch to it, can't find it in emerge with or without x86
1185614082 M * Hollow you need to unmask it too, it's still hardmasked for testing.. but the maintainer will release a rc1 soon, that will be keyworded by all arch teams
1185614114 M * FBW So is there any practical reason to do it now or is it functionally the same
1185614143 M * Hollow well, if you don't do nasty stuff the functionality is still the same as with baselayout-1.12
1185614151 M * Hollow or even 1.11
1185614169 M * Hollow it just has a lot of bugs fixed, and is written in C (therefore it is really really fast)
1185614182 M * Hollow for vserver start it's not that important
1185614190 M * Hollow but it really speeds up normal boot
1185614199 M * Bertl you can write really, really slow things in C too :)
1185614220 M * Hollow sure, but you can also writer fast in C than in bash :)
1185614227 M * Hollow *write faster
1185614260 M * FBW Should I remove the line with 1.13 baselayout entirely from the vserver package.keywords?
1185614276 M * Hollow i don't think bash is suited for projects with more than 2 files :P
1185614288 M * Hollow see util-vserver mess
1185614294 M * Hollow see baselayout mess
1185614296 M * Hollow see ...
1185614304 M * FBW Okay I'm having trouble here... what is the exact line to be added to package.keywords for baselayout-2?
1185614355 M * Hollow echo sys-apps/baselayout >> /etc/portage/package.unmask
1185614367 M * Hollow echo sys-apps/makedev >> /etc/portage/package.unmask
1185614378 M * Hollow same for package.keywords
1185614417 M * FBW And I should remove the 1.13 baselayout line from the keywords file?
1185614442 M * Hollow yeah, doesn't really matter
1185614451 M * Hollow you can also change that line to 2.0
1185614550 M * FBW I don't need to do all this on the host os, right?
1185614579 M * Hollow right, only in the guest(s)
1185614605 M * FBW Thanks
1185614607 M * Hollow but i'd recommend to create a tarball of your first working (and updated) guest, so you can reuse it easily
1185614663 M * FBW How do I use a tarball combined with the vserver build commands, etc? Is that something documented?
1185614676 M * Bertl yes, vserver - build --help
1185614689 M * Hollow same command line as with stage3/4 tarballs
1185614693 M * Bertl (the template command)
1185614791 M * Bertl Hollow: is there a trick to get a tree/thread view for the ML? (via http)
1185614922 M * FBW So I make a tarball from the entire /vservers/server, and use it in combination with the regular build command including the normal stage3?
1185615080 M * FBW Or in stead of, I assume
1185615159 M * Hollow Bertl: good question..
1185615180 M * Bertl Hollow: but not terribly important, just nice to have
1185615196 M * Hollow FBW: yes.. just make sure /vservers/foo is not included in the tarball... i.e. "tar cf foo.tar.bz2 -C /vservers/foo ."
1185615216 M * Hollow *cjf
1185615237 M * Hollow still wrong
1185615239 M * Hollow cjpf
1185615248 M * Hollow so file permissions will be stored in the tarball as well
1185615259 M * Bertl and you want to use '-'
1185615271 M * FBW '-' where?
1185615274 M * Hollow well, works without too :)
1185615299 M * Bertl yeah, but IIRC, tar interprets it in funny ways if you mix non-dash with dash options
1185615322 M * Hollow *shrug* always worked for me..
1185615324 M * Bertl in theory, the following would work :)
1185615337 M * Bertl tar cjpfC foo.tar.bz2 /vservers/foo .
1185615362 M * Bertl but this already failed on me twice, so I now use
1185615376 M * Bertl tar -cjp -f foo.tar.bz2 -C /vservers/foo .
1185615381 M * Hollow :)
1185615383 M * Bertl (or something similar)
1185615404 M * Hollow yeah, that's "proper" syntax :)
1185615416 M * FBW tar -cjpf /custom-stage4.tar.bz2 -c /vservers/template . ? :P
1185615422 M * Hollow -C
1185615424 M * Hollow upper case
1185615428 M * FBW Typo
1185615446 M * Hollow this tells tar to chdir(/vservers/foo)
1185615488 M * Bertl FBW: note: if that is a real template guest, you could also 'clone' from that directly
1185615513 M * FBW Well it won't be once I'm done with it
1185615522 M * Hollow indeed, but i prefer to keep a basic and clean tarball around :)
1185615532 M * Hollow but you can also keep a basic and clean guest aronud of course :)
1185615540 M * Bertl both has advantages and disadvantages
1185615548 M * FBW I'll probably have to do this over anyway once I conclude there are yet more things before it works
1185615698 M * FBW Okay, baselayout-2 naturally wants to replace just about everything in the /etc
1185615709 M * FBW Anything that needs to be kept as-is for vserver?
1185615742 M * Hollow you can just replace everything if this is a fresh stage3/4 update
1185615754 M * Hollow maybe skip /etc/conf.d/hostname :)
1185615787 M * FBW Well for example bootmisc sets wipe /tmp to on, etc. You sure nothing is needed for vserver?
1185615797 M * Hollow but on vserver-build /etc/conf.d/hostname will be setup automatically
1185615824 M * Hollow FBW: yes, you can install all the default configs.. the init scripts make sure it works for vserver
1185615836 M * FBW Ok :)
1185615870 M * Hollow maybe i should do a little list of "files that you should not replace inside opn update" :)
1185615893 M * FBW In other words, I need to do this, stop, make that template tarball and allow vserver to re-fix everything based on that
1185615898 M * Hollow well, only 3 files are vitally important :)
1185615906 M * FBW Which 3?
1185615921 M * Hollow  /etc/fstab, /etc/init.d/shutdown.sh, /etc/init.d/reboot.sh
1185615943 M * Hollow these are setup by vserver-build and should never be replaced
1185616056 M * Hollow fstab should never be changed by updates anyway, and the latter two will be updated if there is a new sysvinit version
1185616072 M * Hollow which does not happen very often
1185616100 M * FBW So I'm guessing this is why you wanted to make new stage tarballs yourself
1185616141 M * Hollow not really, all my previous stages were needed because of baselayout-vserver
1185616157 M * Hollow the latest stage was made because the default stages do not contain baselayout-2 yet
1185616164 M * Hollow (or 1.13)
1185616305 M * FBW Would have saved some trouble if the gentoo basic howto's mentioned that it would be smart to use ~x86 for things that have init.d scripts
1185616320 M * FBW For vserver
1185616340 M * Hollow yeah, i will update the howto for baselayout-2 soon
1185616373 M * Hollow probably together with some new stages
1185616399 M * Hollow still have to get through my qmail queue first ;)
1185616422 M * Hollow i'm currently rewriting qmail related ebuilds for the new eclass i wrote..
1185616453 M * Hollow but there are some other things on my vserver todo for next week
1185616458 M * Hollow stabilize 0.30213 e.g.
1185616499 M * Hollow so, be patient please :)
1185616546 M * FBW My friends decided that it'd be fun to decide about a month ago to end the hosting contract with a colo on the coming monday, while giving me a new server that has a host controller that turns out to be fake raid
1185616568 M * FBW So I spent two weeks coming over to their place figuring out how to get dmraid working on that, and now I have a weekend to get a complete server working
1185616614 M * FBW Including a complete filesystem crash yesterday so I had to redo everything, but at least I knew how
1185616907 J * friendly12345 ~friendly@ppp59-167-88-176.lns2.mel6.internode.on.net
1185616913 M * FBW "chroot-sh: link("/etc/init.d/net.vserver"): File exists" after trying to use the template, and no net.vserver seems to be created
1185616948 M * FBW Or wait, it's net.lo that links to an existing net.vserver
1185616964 M * FBW Ack no, just a regular file :x
1185616971 M * FBW I'll kill it I guess and make a new template
1185617012 M * Hollow FBW: that's ok, if you created a tarball of a guest that already has been created with vserver-build the file is already there of xourse
1185617038 M * Hollow will fix the postinst script to force a reinstall
1185617077 M * FBW Well but for neatness, I can delete the net.vserver and recreate a tarball right?
1185617083 M * Hollow sure
1185617194 J * the-me ~me@p548B3ED1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
1185617338 M * Bertl welcome the-me!
1185619430 M * FBW Time to waste some time in warcraft while stuff compiles
1185619947 M * eyck it'll compile faster if you watch it, instead of wasting you time on warcraft...
1185620218 M * FBW Lies
1185621317 M * Bertl nap attack ... back later
1185621322 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ
1185623104 Q * duckx Remote host closed the connection
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1185629819 J * ||Cobra|| ~cob@pc-csa01.science.uva.nl
1185630192 J * meebey meebey@booster.qnetp.net
1185630718 N * DoberMann[ZZZzzz] DoberMann
1185631715 Q * FireEgl Read error: Connection reset by peer
1185632213 J * s0undt3ch ~s0undt3ch@80.69.34.154
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1185634844 P * meandtheshell 
1185634896 P * friendly12345 
1185635155 M * daniel_hozac Hollow: did you see my dietlibc gripes?
1185635165 J * meandtheshell ~markus@85.127.118.148
1185635344 M * matti Hi Hollow, daniel_hozac 
1185635365 M * daniel_hozac hey matti, happy birthday (in advance)
1185635531 M * matti Thanks!
1185635907 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl
1185635934 M * Bertl evening! anything important? (because I'm relocating in a few minutes)
1185636005 M * matti No.
1185636008 M * matti Nobody died, etc.
1185636011 M * matti All under control.
1185636011 M * matti ;]
1185636027 M * matti Sky is blue, and so on... :D
1185636030 M * matti No worries Bertl 
1185636046 M * Bertl excellent! that's good news!
1185636355 M * matti ;D
1185636865 Q * balbir Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1185636888 M * meandtheshell Bertl: you're free to go :)
1185636904 M * Bertl excellent ... cya!
1185636909 N * Bertl Bertl_oO
1185637402 N * DoberMann DoberMann[PullA]
1185638324 P * the-me Verlassend
1185638551 N * ensc Guest278
1185638561 J * ensc ~irc-ensc@p54B4D872.dip.t-dialin.net
1185638670 Q * Guest278 Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1185641340 J * marcfiu ~marcfiu@c-68-39-177-97.hsd1.nj.comcast.net
1185642256 Q * marcfiu Quit: The computer fell asleep
1185644307 Q * meandtheshell Quit: Leaving.
1185644441 N * Bertl_oO Bertl
1185644457 M * Bertl back now ...
1185644711 M * Supaplex yay
1185644745 J * meandtheshell ~markus@85.127.104.59
1185645601 Q * jescheng Remote host closed the connection
1185645612 J * jescheng ~jescheng@proxy-sjc-2.cisco.com
1185646411 J * lilalinux_ ~plasma@dslb-084-058-250-055.pools.arcor-ip.net
1185646568 M * danman Hollow: what's with qmail? you are the maintainer of the ebuilds? do you know whether the normal gentoo ebuild (netqmail) works under vserver? That's one of my aims soon.
1185646783 Q * lilalinux__ Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1185648943 M * Hollow danman: well, i'm in the qmail herd, but not the netqmail maintainer.. anyway, i have started qmail.eclass and updated ebuilds in my overlay
1185648973 M * Hollow daniel_hozac: guess not?
1185648976 M * Hollow which gripes?
1185649883 J * Blissex ~Blissex@82-69-39-138.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk
1185650746 J * the-me patrick@Linux-Dev.org
1185652097 J * Aiken ~james@ppp121-45-205-95.lns1.bne1.internode.on.net
1185652120 M * Bertl okay, off to bed now .. have a good one everyone!
1185652128 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ
1185653623 Q * DavidS Quit: Leaving.
1185654764 M * danman Hollow: wow, I see you're in many projects!
1185654964 M * danman Hollow: I see this qmail project is kind of a war ;-) lol
1185654984 M * Supaplex real men use netcat as their MTA ;)
1185655022 A * mugwump types STARTTLS then switches to raw hex SCIM mode
1185655037 M * Supaplex =:-D
1185655045 M * danman :-)
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1185659773 M * Hollow danman: sadly, yes.. but eventually it will be fine, just with baselayout.. it was a long war, finally ending now :)
1185659862 M * Hollow many devs are too territorial, but well, you just need the patience :)
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