1185064186 J * matti matti@acrux.romke.net 1185064278 Q * FireEgl Quit: Bye... 1185064365 J * slack101 fgfdgfdg@cpe-71-72-116-119.insight.res.rr.com 1185065390 J * DoberMann_ ~james@AToulouse-156-1-65-10.w90-16.abo.wanadoo.fr 1185065494 Q * DoberMann[ZZZzzz] Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1185066174 J * FireEgl FireEgl@4.0.0.0.1.0.0.0.c.d.4.8.0.c.5.0.1.0.0.2.ip6.arpa 1185066400 Q * bzed Quit: Leaving 1185066792 M * daniel_hozac Bertl_oO: http://people.linux-vserver.org/~dhozac/p/k/delta-propagate-feat01.diff what do you think we should do with vc_get_iattr? should it return the mount tag, or still the inode one? 1185066869 M * daniel_hozac and set_iattr should probably return some error. 1185066960 M * Supaplex as in immutable? 1185066965 M * Supaplex bbiaf 1185067002 M * daniel_hozac huh? 1185067735 Q * ensc Remote host closed the connection 1185072144 M * daniel_hozac Bertl_oO: okay, scratch that. won't work for a lot of things. 1185074187 J * duckx ~Duck@tox.dyndns.org 1185074726 Q * duckx Remote host closed the connection 1185077019 Q * Aiken Remote host closed the connection 1185081667 J * Aiken ~james@ppp121-45-220-241.lns2.bne1.internode.on.net 1185087363 J * DavidS ~david@85.125.165.34 1185087626 M * Bertl_oO okay, finally off to bed ... have a good one! 1185087632 N * Bertl_oO Bertl_zZ 1185089933 Q * jannic Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1185091806 J * jmcaricand ~jmcarican@d77-216-131-116.cust.tele2.fr 1185093009 J * bzed ~bzed@dslb-084-059-109-018.pools.arcor-ip.net 1185094619 N * DoberMann_ DoberMann 1185094871 M * arachnist hm 1185094886 M * arachnist now even xen and lguest are in mainline kernel... 1185094894 M * arachnist why vserver isn't? 1185095230 M * neuralis neither xen nor lguest provide containers. 1185095273 M * neuralis containers are in some ways a much harder sell: they're invasive, and there are a number of ways to implement them. it's not clear there's agreement on the "right way", and it's also not clear it's easy to support more than one way at once. 1185095342 M * neuralis small bits of containerization are incrementally winding up upstream; it's likely that not too long from now, the features offered by vserver will largely also be offered by mainline, but probably not based on vserver and with slightly different design and performance characteristics. 1185095424 J * michal_ ~michal@www.rsbac.org 1185095583 M * AStorm Exactly 1185095597 M * AStorm unless vserver ports to these new features as they come 1185095603 M * AStorm and then might be integrated 1185097232 Q * C14r Remote host closed the connection 1185097830 Q * jmcaricand Quit: KVIrc 3.2.4 Anomalies http://www.kvirc.net/ 1185098968 J * meandtheshell ~markus@85.127.111.2 1185099151 Q * DavidS Quit: Leaving. 1185099966 Q * Aiken Quit: Leaving 1185102096 M * mjt is there an "official" way to overwrite mounting of root filesystem for a guest? 1185103178 M * mjt prepre-start sounds like what's needed, but i'd rather use something like INSTEAD-start instead ;) 1185103804 J * phedny ~mark@ip56538143.direct-adsl.nl 1185104209 Q * phedny_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1185105173 M * mjt and why the ... secure-mount ignores ro flag when mounting root fs?? 1185105207 M * mjt fstab: vproxy/unionfsro,dev,dirs=... 1185105220 M * mjt /proc/mounts in guest: /dev/root / unionfs rw,dirs=... 1185105233 M * mjt err 1185105241 M * mjt fstab: vproxy / unionfs ro,dev,dirs=... 1185105294 M * mjt why ro has been changed to rw? When using normal mount command, it goes ro as expected... 1185108919 J * kir_home ~kir@81.5.104.62 1185109190 J * pmenier_off ~pmenier@ACaen-152-1-37-228.w83-115.abo.wanadoo.fr 1185109260 N * pmenier_off pmenier 1185109524 Q * kir_home Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1185112107 Q * arachnist Quit: ble 1185112646 J * ensc ~irc-ensc@p54B4D31E.dip.t-dialin.net 1185113481 J * kir_home ~kir@81.5.104.62 1185113516 J * dinom ~dinom@n219078151065.netvigator.com 1185114996 Q * kir_home Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1185115920 J * arachnist arachnist@088156185052.who.vectranet.pl 1185116974 Q * FloodServ synthon.oftc.net services.oftc.net 1185117593 J * kir_home ~kir@81.5.104.62 1185118612 M * daniel_hozac mjt: what version? 1185119038 J * FloodServ services@services.oftc.net 1185120020 M * Bertl_zZ 1185120025 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl_oO 1185120154 N * ensc Guest4 1185120164 J * ensc ~irc-ensc@p54B4E425.dip.t-dialin.net 1185120270 Q * Guest4 Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1185122921 M * mjt daniel_hozac: it's 0.30.212 1185122959 M * mjt lemme upgrade to .213.. 1185122990 M * mjt aargh. It wants to update glibc too... (on debian) 1185123102 M * daniel_hozac are you using the backport? 1185123114 M * mjt no.. should I? 1185123126 M * daniel_hozac if you want to keep your system as etch, i guess. 1185123137 M * mjt i haven't updated from sarge yet ;) 1185123153 M * daniel_hozac ah, doubt there is a backport for sarge... 1185123157 M * mjt ;) 1185123171 M * mjt well it's a mix of sarge and etch anyway 1185123216 M * daniel_hozac 0.30.213's secure-mount should to The Right Thing(tm). 1185123247 M * mjt i'll just replace it ;) 1185123307 M * matti Hi daniel_hozac 1185123331 M * mjt wug. now unionfs doesn't work as intended, too. 1185123341 M * mjt (not related to vserver) 1185123341 M * daniel_hozac hello matti. 1185123479 M * matti daniel_hozac: How are ya? 1185123550 M * daniel_hozac i'm good, thanks. how are you? 1185123583 M * mjt yay. .213 fixed that ro=>rw thing 1185123663 M * daniel_hozac among other things :) 1185123834 M * mjt i wonder. If i bind-mount something into guest filesystem, should i place chroot barrier on this dir on the host? 1185123858 M * mjt or it doesn't matter... 1185123875 M * daniel_hozac AFAIK, it doesn't matter. 1185123937 M * daniel_hozac you wouldn't be able to get to the "other" mount point via the bind mount, so it should be safe. 1185124115 J * dna ~naucki@79-244-dsl.kielnet.net 1185125564 M * AStorm Yes, bind mounts are fairly secure 1185125724 Q * nox Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1185125731 M * daniel_hozac AStorm: http://svn.linux-vserver.org/projects/util-vserver/changeset/2569 1185126107 J * nox ~nox@static.88-198-17-175.clients.your-server.de 1185126170 M * AStorm daniel_hozac, :* 1185126194 M * AStorm Though I'm still waiting for a real VServer-nosched. My last attempt was botched I think. 1185126194 Q * dinom Quit: dinom 1185126215 M * mjt hmm 1185126215 M * AStorm (maybe it was just that -ENOSYS makes whole vserver script fail) 1185126246 M * mjt why `vserver foo start' tries to read all files in /etc/vservers/foo/ ? 1185126256 M * daniel_hozac sanity checking. 1185126268 M * mjt but there are some executables in there 1185126287 M * AStorm ? 1185126288 M * daniel_hozac so? 1185126303 M * mjt and i see lines like 1185126304 M * daniel_hozac (and i assume executable means script...?) 1185126313 M * mjt WARNING: '/etc/vservers/proxy/dev.tar.gz' does not end on newline 1185126323 M * AStorm :> 1185126324 M * daniel_hozac well, yes. 1185126329 M * AStorm that shouldn't be there 1185126339 M * AStorm the tar.gz 1185126359 M * daniel_hozac mjt: you're aware of util-vserver's device node creating functions? 1185126397 M * mjt WARNING: '/etc/vservers/resolv/root/etc/ssh/ssh_host_dsa_key' does not end on newline 1185126404 M * mjt and so on 1185126413 M * mjt daniel_hozac: no i'm not 1185126434 M * mjt i just mount tmpfs in /dev and un-tar common device nodes in there 1185126446 M * mjt so that /dev/log etc can be used (the root fs is readonly) 1185126448 M * daniel_hozac you could just call populateDev. 1185126454 M * mjt "call" ? 1185126455 M * daniel_hozac (after sourcing vserver-build.functions) 1185126465 M * mjt aha 1185126472 M * daniel_hozac (and setting VDIR) 1185126520 M * AStorm mjt, still, it's not too bright to do this each time 1185126527 M * mjt why not? 1185126531 M * AStorm why not store the dev nodes on the filesystem directly? 1185126539 M * AStorm (instead of tmpfs an all that dance) 1185126541 M * mjt see above - because of /dev/log 1185126552 M * AStorm /dev/log is a pipe? 1185126559 M * mjt socket 1185126563 M * AStorm ah, close 1185126567 M * mjt it's created by syslogd 1185126571 M * mjt inside the guest 1185126580 M * mjt so /dev can't be readonly like the rest of stuff 1185126582 M * AStorm mh. 1185126601 M * mjt well 1185126609 M * mjt i can symlink it to /var/run/log 1185126611 M * AStorm why use such a broken syslogd which cannot communicate over network directly? :-) 1185126620 M * mjt and tell syslogd to create /var/run/log instead 1185126635 M * mjt it can communicate over network 1185126642 M * mjt but user programs cant 1185126656 M * mjt and 127.0.0.1 doesn't work 1185126666 M * daniel_hozac why not? 1185126678 M * mjt because it's in host? 1185126687 M * mjt i can't ping 127.0.0.1 from a guest 1185126692 M * daniel_hozac 127.0.0.1 is rewritten to the guest's first IP address. 1185126692 M * AStorm because you didn't create one in the vserver? :P 1185126702 M * daniel_hozac ping is a bad test. 1185126706 M * daniel_hozac try TCP or UDP. 1185126713 M * AStorm ping requires NET_RAW 1185126713 M * mjt ok, i can't telnet to 127.0.0.1 1185126721 M * mjt been there, done that 1185126730 M * mjt that's why i direct syslogd in guest to 127.0.0.2 1185126731 M * AStorm mhm 1185126736 M * daniel_hozac then something's wrong with your setup. 1185126746 M * AStorm mjt, exactly, something is thoroughly wrong then :> 1185126768 M * mjt there's no 127.0.0.1 in the guest, should it be there? 1185126778 M * mjt but if yes, it will refer to guest, not to host 1185126778 M * daniel_hozac no. 1185126804 M * AStorm mjt, no, it will be global 1185126805 M * mjt ugggh. Another hidden function and another config file (that populateDevs thing) 1185126808 M * AStorm because of routes 1185126835 M * mjt i'm throwing away all vserver scripts, slowly - just waaaaay too complicated. 1185126839 M * daniel_hozac yes, i like hiding things in... source files! 1185126849 M * AStorm it's the same if I create 192.168.0.5 inside the vserver - it will be joined with the main one 1185126866 M * mjt well, 127.0.0.1 is special 1185126869 M * daniel_hozac if (fl.fl4_dst == IPI_LOOPBACK && !nx_check(0, VS_ADMIN)) 1185126870 M * daniel_hozac fl.fl4_dst = nx_info->ipv4[0]; 1185126870 M * mjt the rest isn't 1185126909 M * daniel_hozac so, if a guest tries to connect to 127.0.0.1, it will actually connect to its first IP address. 1185126931 M * AStorm if you have rewriting enabled, that is 1185126938 M * daniel_hozac no, that _always_ happens. 1185126939 M * mjt aha. that's why directing guest's syslog to 127.1 doesn't work, but works with 127.2 ;) 1185126954 M * AStorm daniel_hozac, why was that changed? :> 1185126960 M * daniel_hozac AStorm: it hasn't been changed. 1185126967 M * daniel_hozac it's been that way, well, forever. 1185126968 M * AStorm hmm, so it should be made optional 1185126981 M * AStorm You can create lo interface still :P 1185126984 M * daniel_hozac not really. 127.0.0.1 should refer to the guest, not the host. 1185126998 M * AStorm It will, but to 127.0.0.1 inside the guest 1185127003 M * daniel_hozac there's no such thing. 1185127007 M * AStorm which doesn't exist, unless you create it 1185127015 M * daniel_hozac as it doesn't make sense. 1185127031 M * mjt yoy can't really "create" it in guest 1185127038 M * mjt you can share it from the host 1185127042 M * AStorm hmmm 1185127057 M * AStorm why not? separation not working or something? 1185127067 M * mjt (unless host doesn't have it in the first place) 1185127085 M * daniel_hozac AStorm: it's isolation, no separation. 1185127099 M * AStorm blah, forgot that it isn't a jail, sorry :P 1185127099 M * daniel_hozac where the host encompasses all of the guests. 1185127122 M * AStorm it could be emulated with proper routes though 1185127145 M * AStorm (if the interfaces are visible inside the hosts as aliases, for instance) 1185127151 M * AStorm *host 1185127212 M * daniel_hozac what interfaces? 1185127225 M * AStorm created ones 1185127237 M * AStorm you know, the ones host gives to guests 1185127249 M * AStorm make them more visible from host 1185127291 M * AStorm thumbs up or down? 1185127297 M * daniel_hozac uh, the host sees everything- 1185127298 M * mjt "more visible" 1185127299 M * mjt ? 1185127310 M * mjt they ALL are visible on host 1185127318 M * daniel_hozac generally, all the networking happens on the host, the guests are just limited to a subset of the IP addresses. 1185127337 M * AStorm But then, if the addresses collide, at least create an alias 1185127346 M * AStorm instead of just handing down the interface 1185127360 M * AStorm that would enable routing at least some bit 1185127361 M * daniel_hozac what addresses would "collide"? 1185127377 M * AStorm daniel_hozac, when the host has 192.168.0.2, and you give the guest the same IP 1185127385 M * AStorm I'd like to see the guest as an alias of it 1185127386 M * daniel_hozac they're the same. 1185127389 M * mjt host always has it 1185127395 M * AStorm mjt, I know 1185127397 M * mjt host always has all the guest's IPs 1185127412 M * AStorm mjt, ... I know, I'm talking whether it could be useful to implement 1185127415 M * mjt and it can (ab)use them as it wishes 1185127435 M * mjt useful to hide guest's IPs? 1185127437 M * AStorm to separate routing from the vserver with host's routes (which you can do with name aliases) 1185127454 M * AStorm (thanks to dev <...> option) 1185127479 M * daniel_hozac aliases cannot be used in routes. 1185127479 M * mjt by the way, what's the purpose of interfaces/$N/dev file? 1185127502 M * AStorm daniel_hozac, they can't? :( 1185127518 M * AStorm mjt, name inside the guest 1185127519 M * daniel_hozac mjt: tells the utils to add the IP address to the specified interface 1185127533 M * mjt as far as i can see, interfaces/$N/dev only tells to which real interface on HOST to add the given address(es) 1185127543 M * daniel_hozac obviously. 1185127571 M * daniel_hozac again, the guest is only limited to a subset of the IP addresses. 1185127574 M * mjt the thing is - it doesn't really matter, it should be sufficient to use `lo' in there always 1185127587 M * AStorm Hmm, some degree of separation is achievable of course using routes on host and separate IP addresses 1185127597 M * mjt UNLESS guests are on another subnet than host 1185127600 M * AStorm (or iptables, though routes are faster) 1185127671 M * daniel_hozac mjt: then the first guest started would get the primary address, and unless you enable the secondaries promotion option, all of the guests would lose their IP addresses when you stop it ;) 1185127701 M * daniel_hozac mjt: and obviously it's not useful to make assumptions about the network setup in the utils. 1185127740 M * AStorm Yep. 1185127763 M * mjt secondaries promption option? 1185127776 M * AStorm daniel_hozac, have you looked inside that 2.6.22-git tree and its user_namespaces? 1185127787 M * AStorm I'd like some pointers on porting. 1185127791 M * daniel_hozac net.ipv4.conf.all.promote_secondaries 1185127795 M * daniel_hozac (sysctl) 1185127808 M * AStorm you can even set it per-interface :-) 1185127822 M * AStorm s/all// 1185127834 M * mjt host1: ip a add 192.168.1.1/24 dev eth0; ip a add 192.168.1.10/32 dev lo 1185127834 M * mjt host2: ip a add 192.168.1.2/24 dev eth0; ping 192.168.1.10 1185127859 M * AStorm You can use static NAT routes 1185127871 M * mjt cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/conf/eth0/promote_secondaries 1185127871 M * mjt 0 1185127874 M * AStorm and ping won't work because of lack of NET_RAW 1185127904 M * daniel_hozac yes it will, VXC_RAW_ICMP is given by default. 1185127939 M * AStorm :O 1185127945 M * AStorm caught me unprepared :P 1185127953 M * daniel_hozac as always... 1185127966 M * AStorm Guess I'll have to disable it in guests 1185127974 M * mjt daniel_hozac: so.. what's wrong with using `lo' as interfaces/$N/dev by default? 1185127975 M * AStorm (because I don't want them to ping) 1185127984 M * daniel_hozac mjt: in your setup, nothing. 1185128016 M * mjt it only makes difference when no guest share host's network segments 1185128038 M * mjt to give specific, non-lo interface, that is 1185128041 M * daniel_hozac exactly. 1185128072 M * mjt don't understand what did you mean about guests losing their IP addresses 1185128088 M * daniel_hozac ip a a 192.168.1.1/24 dev eth0 1185128091 M * daniel_hozac ip a a 192.168.1.2/24 dev eth0 1185128091 M * AStorm when one guest goes down and you don't have promote_secondaries=1 1185128095 M * daniel_hozac ip a a 192.168.1.3/24 dev eth0 1185128100 M * daniel_hozac ip a d 192.168.1.1/24 dev eth0 1185128104 M * daniel_hozac voila, they're all gone. 1185128108 M * mjt aha! 1185128109 M * AStorm then other eth0 will be downed too 1185128115 M * mjt that doens't happen with lo /32 ;) 1185128123 M * AStorm it does :> 1185128135 M * AStorm it's bound to a name 1185128145 M * mjt they're all global, not secondary 1185128157 M * mjt 1: lo: mtu 16436 qdisc noqueue 1185128163 M * mjt inet 127.0.0.1/8 scope host lo 1185128165 M * mjt inet 192.168.11.6/32 scope global lo 1185128165 M * mjt inet 192.168.11.5/32 scope global lo:vproxy 1185128182 M * mjt i can add/remove any of them in any order 1185128182 M * AStorm notice an alias 1185128190 M * mjt it doesn't matter *at all* 1185128191 M * AStorm But you can't down them 1185128202 M * mjt i can't down an alias or ip address 1185128203 M * AStorm downing lo inside the guest will down lo in the host :> 1185128214 M * mjt and i can't down lo in guest, either 1185128217 M * AStorm (s/inside/outside, in the host/) 1185128286 M * mjt 1: lo: mtu 16436 qdisc noqueue 1185128286 M * mjt inet 127.0.0.1/8 scope host lo 1185128286 M * mjt inet 192.168.11.6/32 scope global lo 1185128286 M * mjt inet 192.168.11.5/32 scope global lo 1185128286 M * mjt inet 192.168.11.7/32 scope global lo 1185128288 M * mjt etc 1185128307 M * mjt (no aliases, alas) 1185128344 M * daniel_hozac yes, aliases have absolutely nothing to do with anything. 1185128395 M * AStorm exactly 1185128403 M * AStorm but downing lo will down them all 1185128414 M * daniel_hozac that's true regardless of what interface you're talking about. 1185128424 M * AStorm that's not always wanted :P 1185128444 M * daniel_hozac in which case lo is a better choice, as it doesn't make sense to bring it down. 1185128466 M * AStorm or a dummy device 1185128474 M * AStorm also works nicely 1185128666 M * mjt ok. Here's the script i'm trying to use to start a vserver (run under newnamespace). Is it everything that's needed or did I forget something? -- http://paste.linux-vserver.org/4636 1185128670 M * Supaplex and a dummy device can be bridged 1185128722 M * mjt the last part of it - sequence of vserver utils invocations 1185128754 M * mjt (it probably should also set up links in /var/run/vservers* so that things like vserver-stat will work) 1185128796 M * daniel_hozac won't work anyway with that vuname context :) 1185128807 M * mjt vattribute seems to be unnecessary 1185128828 M * daniel_hozac you're aware that's what drops capabilities, right? 1185128846 M * mjt no ;) 1185128848 M * daniel_hozac i.e. without that, it's completely insecure... 1185128855 M * mjt aha 1185128882 M * mjt so vattribute --flag ... stuff is unnecessary, but --secure is needed :) 1185128913 M * mjt and vuname -t context= isn't needed, it seems 1185128916 M * daniel_hozac well, depends on what you consider necessary. 1185128965 M * mjt isn't necessary for proper guest functioning 1185128966 M * daniel_hozac without --flag default, you won't get a virtualized uptime. without --flag fakeinit, you won't see an init in the guest. 1185128982 M * mjt aha! 1185129037 M * mjt there should be some args for vsched too, and probably setting capabilities if needed, as well (like granting stuff like net_raw etc) 1185129041 M * mjt i guess 1185129077 M * daniel_hozac yep. 1185129129 Q * michal_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1185129160 M * mjt exec-ulimit $SROOT/rlimits ... vlimit --dir $SROOT/rlimits -- that's probably not right, too 1185129186 M * mjt (the same argument(s) for the two) 1185129195 M * daniel_hozac nope. 1185129303 M * mjt consider me confused.. again ;) 1185129316 M * daniel_hozac what about? 1185129353 M * mjt vlimit sets context limits (sum of all processes in a context), while exec-ulimit sets process limits 1185129362 M * mjt if i got it right 1185129394 M * mjt aha. So initially process limits are equal to context limits 1185129397 M * daniel_hozac exec-ulimit sets the regular ulimits. 1185129405 M * mjt process limits 1185129416 M * daniel_hozac some of them apply to more than one process. 1185129427 M * mjt only nproc 1185129469 M * mjt lol 1185129473 M * mjt # vlimit -a 1185129473 M * mjt vc_get_rlimit(): No such process 1185129473 M * mjt vc_get_rlimit(): No such process 1185129478 M * mjt ... 1185129479 M * mjt # 1185129498 M * mjt (not very helpful ;) 1185129506 M * daniel_hozac hint: supplying an xid works better. 1185129523 M * mjt well, strings(1) works even better ;) 1185129529 J * michal_ ~michal@www.rsbac.org 1185129575 M * daniel_hozac huh? 1185129620 M * mjt by "list all available limits" i understand a list of "limit names" one can specify 1185129693 M * daniel_hozac so you misunderstood it, okay. 1185130387 Q * pmenier Quit: KVIrc 3.2.0 'Realia' 1185130598 P * Solaris satan made me do it 1185130613 M * mjt hmm. I don't have ncontext calls in my script, but chbind invocation. Is it okay? 1185130630 M * daniel_hozac chbind is just a wrapper script. 1185130638 M * mjt wug ;) 1185130651 M * mjt (i'm reading src/chbind.c source ;) 1185130699 M * daniel_hozac that's chbind-compat. 1185130705 M * daniel_hozac which won't be used in a recent kernel. 1185130724 M * daniel_hozac s/in/on/ 1185131557 M * ntrs_ Hi all 1185131593 M * ntrs_ Once I have a guest with a vroot device and I no longer need it. Do I need to somehow remove the vroot with vrsetup? 1185131678 M * ntrs_ or is umount /dev/loop0 enough? 1185131852 M * ntrs_ anyone? 1185132320 M * daniel_hozac vrsetup -d /dev/vroot0 will free it. 1185132351 M * ntrs_ thanks 1185132721 Q * kir_home Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1185133263 J * kir_home ~kir@81.5.104.62 1185133850 J * jmcaricand ~jmcarican@d83-179-128-55.cust.tele2.fr 1185134121 Q * jmcaricand 1185134356 Q * hardwire solenoid.oftc.net charon.oftc.net 1185134356 Q * Ashsong|sleep solenoid.oftc.net charon.oftc.net 1185134356 Q * quasisane solenoid.oftc.net charon.oftc.net 1185134356 Q * besonen_mobile solenoid.oftc.net charon.oftc.net 1185134356 Q * kir_home solenoid.oftc.net charon.oftc.net 1185134356 Q * phedny solenoid.oftc.net charon.oftc.net 1185134356 Q * bzed solenoid.oftc.net charon.oftc.net 1185134356 Q * matti solenoid.oftc.net charon.oftc.net 1185134356 Q * Greek0_ solenoid.oftc.net charon.oftc.net 1185134356 Q * Wonka solenoid.oftc.net charon.oftc.net 1185134356 Q * waldi solenoid.oftc.net charon.oftc.net 1185134356 Q * kaner solenoid.oftc.net charon.oftc.net 1185134356 Q * Spyke solenoid.oftc.net charon.oftc.net 1185134356 Q * cehteh solenoid.oftc.net charon.oftc.net 1185134356 Q * click solenoid.oftc.net charon.oftc.net 1185134356 Q * morfoh solenoid.oftc.net charon.oftc.net 1185134356 Q * daniel_hozac solenoid.oftc.net charon.oftc.net 1185134356 Q * nou solenoid.oftc.net charon.oftc.net 1185134356 Q * FaUl solenoid.oftc.net charon.oftc.net 1185134356 Q * bXi solenoid.oftc.net charon.oftc.net 1185134356 Q * Radiance solenoid.oftc.net charon.oftc.net 1185134356 Q * ||Cobra|| solenoid.oftc.net charon.oftc.net 1185134356 Q * mact solenoid.oftc.net charon.oftc.net 1185134356 Q * fs solenoid.oftc.net charon.oftc.net 1185134356 Q * ensc solenoid.oftc.net charon.oftc.net 1185134356 Q * DoberMann solenoid.oftc.net charon.oftc.net 1185134356 Q * onox solenoid.oftc.net charon.oftc.net 1185134356 Q * LaZaR solenoid.oftc.net charon.oftc.net 1185134356 Q * virtuoso solenoid.oftc.net charon.oftc.net 1185134356 Q * mcp solenoid.oftc.net charon.oftc.net 1185134356 Q * gerrit_ solenoid.oftc.net charon.oftc.net 1185134356 Q * sid3windr solenoid.oftc.net charon.oftc.net 1185134356 Q * Vudumen solenoid.oftc.net charon.oftc.net 1185134356 Q * ruskie solenoid.oftc.net charon.oftc.net 1185134356 Q * opuk solenoid.oftc.net charon.oftc.net 1185134356 Q * derjohn solenoid.oftc.net charon.oftc.net 1185134356 Q * Ramjar solenoid.oftc.net charon.oftc.net 1185134356 Q * badari solenoid.oftc.net charon.oftc.net 1185134356 Q * sannes solenoid.oftc.net charon.oftc.net 1185134356 Q * doener solenoid.oftc.net charon.oftc.net 1185134356 Q * Medivh solenoid.oftc.net charon.oftc.net 1185134356 Q * Adrinael solenoid.oftc.net charon.oftc.net 1185134356 Q * toom solenoid.oftc.net charon.oftc.net 1185134356 Q * eyck- solenoid.oftc.net charon.oftc.net 1185134356 Q * BobR_zZ solenoid.oftc.net charon.oftc.net 1185134356 Q * sladen solenoid.oftc.net charon.oftc.net 1185134356 Q * tokkee solenoid.oftc.net charon.oftc.net 1185134356 Q * harry solenoid.oftc.net charon.oftc.net 1185134356 Q * AndrewLee solenoid.oftc.net charon.oftc.net 1185134356 Q * svenk solenoid.oftc.net charon.oftc.net 1185134356 Q * Bertl_oO solenoid.oftc.net charon.oftc.net 1185134356 Q * weasel solenoid.oftc.net charon.oftc.net 1185134356 Q * baldy solenoid.oftc.net charon.oftc.net 1185134357 Q * michal_ solenoid.oftc.net charon.oftc.net 1185134357 Q * nox solenoid.oftc.net charon.oftc.net 1185134357 Q * meandtheshell solenoid.oftc.net charon.oftc.net 1185134357 Q * ktwilight solenoid.oftc.net charon.oftc.net 1185134357 Q * UukGoblin solenoid.oftc.net charon.oftc.net 1185134357 Q * fosco solenoid.oftc.net charon.oftc.net 1185134357 Q * ex solenoid.oftc.net charon.oftc.net 1185134357 Q * transacid solenoid.oftc.net charon.oftc.net 1185134357 Q * boneb solenoid.oftc.net charon.oftc.net 1185134357 Q * rob-84x^ solenoid.oftc.net charon.oftc.net 1185134357 Q * ray6 solenoid.oftc.net charon.oftc.net 1185134357 Q * eSa| solenoid.oftc.net charon.oftc.net 1185134357 Q * Hunger solenoid.oftc.net charon.oftc.net 1185134357 Q * Guy- solenoid.oftc.net charon.oftc.net 1185134357 Q * pyquila solenoid.oftc.net charon.oftc.net 1185134357 Q * Loki|muh solenoid.oftc.net charon.oftc.net 1185134357 Q * SadMan solenoid.oftc.net charon.oftc.net 1185134357 Q * mnemoc solenoid.oftc.net charon.oftc.net 1185134357 Q * meebey solenoid.oftc.net charon.oftc.net 1185134357 Q * FloodServ solenoid.oftc.net charon.oftc.net 1185134357 Q * mattzerah solenoid.oftc.net charon.oftc.net 1185134357 Q * Hollow solenoid.oftc.net charon.oftc.net 1185134357 Q * ntrs_ solenoid.oftc.net charon.oftc.net 1185134357 Q * brcc_ solenoid.oftc.net charon.oftc.net 1185134357 Q * gdm solenoid.oftc.net charon.oftc.net 1185134357 Q * Johnnie solenoid.oftc.net charon.oftc.net 1185134357 Q * ord solenoid.oftc.net charon.oftc.net 1185134357 Q * hallyn solenoid.oftc.net charon.oftc.net 1185134357 Q * gresco solenoid.oftc.net charon.oftc.net 1185134357 Q * wenchien solenoid.oftc.net charon.oftc.net 1185134357 Q * slack101 solenoid.oftc.net charon.oftc.net 1185134357 Q * coderanger solenoid.oftc.net charon.oftc.net 1185134357 Q * zLinux solenoid.oftc.net charon.oftc.net 1185134357 Q * WorkRoey solenoid.oftc.net charon.oftc.net 1185134357 Q * mugwump solenoid.oftc.net charon.oftc.net 1185134357 Q * micah solenoid.oftc.net charon.oftc.net 1185134357 Q * Supaplex solenoid.oftc.net charon.oftc.net 1185134357 Q * bored2sleep solenoid.oftc.net charon.oftc.net 1185134357 Q * neuralis solenoid.oftc.net charon.oftc.net 1185134357 Q * jkl solenoid.oftc.net charon.oftc.net 1185134357 Q * mountie solenoid.oftc.net charon.oftc.net 1185134357 Q * dilinger solenoid.oftc.net charon.oftc.net 1185134401 J * SadMan sadman@sadman.net 1185134401 J * Loki|muh loki@satanix.de 1185134401 J * pyquila gerbens@82.94.222.35 1185134401 J * Guy- MPHK444AXO@chardonnay.math.bme.hu 1185134401 J * quasisane ~sanep@c-75-67-252-184.hsd1.nh.comcast.net 1185134401 J * hardwire ~bip@rdbck-7046.palmer.mtaonline.net 1185134401 J * Ashsong|sleep ~chatzilla@orchard.laptop.org 1185134401 J * besonen_mobile ~besonen_m@71-220-233-253.eugn.qwest.net 1185134401 J * brcc_ bruce@i.am.someasshole.com 1185134401 J * gdm ~gdm@www.iteration.org 1185134401 J * neuralis ~krstic@solarsail.hcs.harvard.edu 1185134401 J * wenchien ~wenchien@59-105-176-11.adsl.static.seed.net.tw 1185134401 J * bored2sleep ~bored2sle@66.111.53.150 1185134401 J * hallyn ~xa@adsl-75-0-154-11.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net 1185134401 J * dilinger ~dilinger@mail.queued.net 1185134401 J * mountie ~mountie@CPE0080c6fe324f-CM000a739acaa4.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com 1185134401 J * gresco ~gresco@4-154-114-200.fibertel.com.ar 1185134401 J * ntrs_ ntrs@68-188-55-120.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com 1185134401 J * micah ~micah@micah.riseup.net 1185134401 J * mugwump ~samv@watts.utsl.gen.nz 1185134401 J * Supaplex supaplex@166-70-62-199.ip.xmission.com 1185134401 J * WorkRoey ~katz@dsl093-083-226.wdc1.dsl.speakeasy.net 1185134401 J * ord ~jcurrey@67.11.10.179 1185134401 J * jkl jkl@c-67-173-253-237.hsd1.co.comcast.net 1185134401 J * zLinux ~zLinux@88.213.33.64 1185134401 J * Hollow ~hollow@proteus.croup.de 1185134401 J * mattzerah ~matt@121.50.222.55 1185134401 J * coderanger ~coderange@c-65-96-210-168.hsd1.ma.comcast.net 1185134401 J * Johnnie ~jdlewis@c-67-163-142-234.hsd1.pa.comcast.net 1185134401 J * slack101 fgfdgfdg@cpe-71-72-116-119.insight.res.rr.com 1185134401 J * FloodServ services@services.oftc.net 1185134437 J * mnemoc ~amery@kilo105.server4you.de 1185134437 J * meebey meebey@booster.qnetp.net 1185134514 J * ensc ~irc-ensc@p54B4E425.dip.t-dialin.net 1185134514 J * DoberMann ~james@AToulouse-156-1-65-10.w90-16.abo.wanadoo.fr 1185134514 J * onox ~onox@kalfjeslab.demon.nl 1185134514 J * LaZaR ~bla@141.12.66.238 1185134514 J * virtuoso ~s0t0na@80.253.205.251 1185134514 J * mcp ~hightower@lokalhorst.wolk-project.de 1185134514 J * gerrit_ ~gerrit@c-67-169-199-103.hsd1.or.comcast.net 1185134514 J * sid3windr luser@bastard-operator.from-hell.be 1185134514 J * Vudumen ~vudumen@perverz.hu 1185134514 J * ruskie ruskie@ruskie.user.oftc.net 1185134514 J * opuk ~kupo@c213-100-138-228.swipnet.se 1185134514 J * derjohn ~derjohn@80.69.41.3 1185134514 J * Ramjar ~ramjar@195.159.98.150 1185134514 J * badari ~badari@bi01p1.co.us.ibm.com 1185134514 J * sladen paul@starsky.19inch.net 1185134514 J * Bertl_oO herbert@IRC.13thfloor.at 1185134514 J * sannes ace@har.sagt.no 1185134514 J * doener ~doener@host.magicwars.de 1185134514 J * Medivh ck@paradise.by.the.dashboardlight.de 1185134514 J * tokkee tokkee@casella.verplant.org 1185134514 J * Adrinael adrinael@rid7.kyla.fi 1185134514 J * weasel weasel@weasel.noc.oftc.net 1185134514 J * toom ~toom@coco.docisland.org 1185134514 J * AndrewLee ~andrew@flat.iis.sinica.edu.tw 1185134514 J * eyck- eyck@kuszelas.com 1185134514 J * svenk ~sven@213.73.89.36 1185134514 J * harry ~harry@d54C2508C.access.telenet.be 1185134514 J * BobR_zZ odie@IRC.13thfloor.at 1185134515 J * kir_home ~kir@81.5.104.62 1185134515 J * phedny ~mark@ip56538143.direct-adsl.nl 1185134515 J * bzed ~bzed@dslb-084-059-109-018.pools.arcor-ip.net 1185134515 J * matti matti@acrux.romke.net 1185134515 J * Greek0_ ~greek0@85.255.145.201 1185134515 J * Wonka produziert@chaos.in-kiel.de 1185134515 J * waldi ~waldi@bblank.thinkmo.de 1185134515 J * kaner kaner@strace.org 1185134515 J * Spyke ~jonas@pc19.hip.fi 1185134515 J * fs fs@213.178.77.98 1185134515 J * ||Cobra|| ~cob@pc-csa01.science.uva.nl 1185134515 J * mact ~sithkemm@i9a018.informatik.uni-erlangen.de 1185134515 J * FaUl immo@shell.chaostreff-dortmund.de 1185134515 J * nou Chaton@causse.larzac.fr.eu.org 1185134515 J * bXi bluepunk@irssi.co.uk 1185134515 J * daniel_hozac ~daniel@c-051472d5.08-230-73746f22.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se 1185134515 J * morfoh ~morfoh@kilo105.server4you.de 1185134515 J * click click@ti511110a080-1451.bb.online.no 1185134515 J * Radiance df0829c314@halt.1984world.eu 1185134515 J * cehteh ~ct@pipapo.org 1185134517 J * michal_ ~michal@www.rsbac.org 1185134517 J * nox ~nox@nox.user.oftc.net 1185134517 J * meandtheshell ~markus@85.127.111.2 1185134517 J * ktwilight ~ktwilight@15.104-66-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be 1185134517 J * UukGoblin ~jaaa@sr-fw1.router.uk.clara.net 1185134517 J * fosco fosco@konoha.devnullteam.org 1185134517 J * ex ex@valis.net.pl 1185134517 J * transacid ~transacid@transacid.de 1185134517 J * boneb ~ben@mail.fourtwoseven.co.uk 1185134517 J * rob-84x^ rob@submarine.ath.cx 1185134517 J * ray6 ~ray@vh5.gcsc2.ray.net 1185134517 J * eSa| ~esa@ip-87-238-2-45.adsl.cheapnet.it 1185134517 J * Hunger Hunger.hu@Hunger.hu 1185134524 J * baldy baldy@baldy.biz 1185134965 M * mjt vc_enter_namespace(101,0): Bad file descriptor 1185134969 M * mjt what's that? 1185134989 M * mjt (i'm trying to work with vserver on syscall level) 1185135015 M * daniel_hozac on syscall level it's called vc_enter_space :) 1185135051 M * mjt well, wrapper is called vc_enter_namespace. 1185135082 M * mjt in patch, i only see EBADF in file-related routines 1185135098 M * mjt in vserver kernel patch, that is 1185135178 M * mjt what's vserver syscall number? 1185135209 M * daniel_hozac depends on the arch. 1185135226 M * daniel_hozac EBADF on vc_enter_space doesn't make sense at all. 1185135482 Q * kir_home Quit: Ухожу я от вас 1185135495 M * mjt i used the wrong syscall nr ;) 1185135722 M * mjt #define __NR_vserver 273 1185135731 M * mjt on i386 1185136497 M * mjt so, in order to enter the namespace/context properl, i have to chroot, or at least chdir, to the proper directory. 1185136620 M * mjt or else i can't cross the barrier ;) 1185136649 Q * dna Quit: Verlassend 1185136709 M * mjt and only if i chroot to the proper dir, /proc/mounts shows "filtered" view 1185136724 M * mjt without chroot it shows everything in that namespace 1185136922 M * mjt vc_namespace_enter(xid, CLONE_NEWNS|CLONE_FS); chdir(guest_root); chroot("."); vc_ctx_migrate(xid, 0); exec(...); 1185137514 Q * FireEgl Quit: Bye... 1185137750 J * gebura ~gebura@AOrleans-151-1-22-241.w90-21.abo.wanadoo.fr 1185137755 M * gebura hello all 1185137770 M * Supaplex hi 1185137832 M * gebura i am trying to install dovecot on a etch vserver and i have ot this error: 1185137834 M * gebura http://paste.linux-vserver.org/4637 1185137854 M * gebura i don't know if it is a vserver related error 1185137878 N * DoberMann DoberMann[ZZZzzz] 1185137945 M * Supaplex looks like the dns/hostname isn't setup 1185137952 M * gebura does anybodyhave an idea about ? (the line "hostname" ... made me thinking it can be vserver related) 1185137955 M * Supaplex I have a similar issue on a guest 1185137972 M * Supaplex I think it's related to dns in your case. did you check the wiki? 1185138020 M * Hollow you need to setup /etc/hosts correctly 1185138139 M * gebura i 'll try 1185138141 M * gebura thanks 1185138306 M * Supaplex this guest works fine http://paste.linux-vserver.org/4638 and it's in dnsmasq on the router, so I suspect that's why hostname works. 1185138374 M * gebura it work Hollow , thanks 1185138398 M * gebura what 's your problem Supaplex ? 1185138518 M * Supaplex it's elusive. I'll have to wait to see what guest it shows up in. I usually band-aid it with 'hostname $host' and it goes away. otherwise, it assumes the hostname of the host 1185138578 M * gebura echo "name" > /etc/hostname 1185138584 M * gebura echo "name" > /etc/mailname 1185138588 M * gebura stop the vserver 1185138593 M * gebura and restart it 1185138599 M * sid3windr doesn't work on fedora at least ;) 1185138640 M * gebura maybe fedora use a own file/var to stock hostname, i don't know 1185138659 M * gebura pearaps can you set it with a system- command 1185138671 M * gebura that's the only one thing i know in fedora :( 1185138810 J * Aiken ~james@ppp121-45-220-241.lns2.bne1.internode.on.net 1185138831 M * sid3windr gebura: afaics it's set in the networking scripts, which are disabled on vserver 1185138851 M * sid3windr but I only have one fedora vserver and hate it lots, so I solved it with a quick /etc/rc3.d/S01hostname ;) 1185141374 Q * meandtheshell Quit: Leaving. 1185141546 Q * gebura Remote host closed the connection 1185142152 J * FireEgl ~FireEgl@Sebastian.Tcldrop.Com 1185146679 M * daniel_hozac why are you even setting the hostname from inside? 1185146691 M * daniel_hozac /etc/vservers//uts/nodename is more than capable ;) 1185148764 Q * FireEgl Quit: Bye...