1184976494 Q * onox Quit: leaving 1184978932 J * DoberMann_ ~james@AToulouse-156-1-57-238.w90-16.abo.wanadoo.fr 1184979040 Q * DoberMann Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1184980638 J * FireEgl FireEgl@4.0.0.0.1.0.0.0.c.d.4.8.0.c.5.0.1.0.0.2.ip6.arpa 1184981160 N * DoberMann_ DoberMann[ZZZzzz] 1184981824 M * Bertl_oO okay, off to bed now ... have a good one everyone! cya! 1184981828 N * Bertl_oO BErtl_zZ 1184981832 N * BErtl_zZ Bertl_zZ 1184982330 J * ensc ~irc-ensc@p54B4F8D3.dip.t-dialin.net 1184983364 Q * ensc Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1184984535 J * Aiken ~james@ppp121-45-220-241.lns2.bne1.internode.on.net 1184986991 Q * bzed Quit: Leaving 1184988958 J * ensc ~irc-ensc@p54B4F8D3.dip.t-dialin.net 1184991644 N * ensc Guest878 1184991654 J * ensc ~irc-ensc@p54B4F8D3.dip.t-dialin.net 1184991764 Q * Guest878 Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1184996594 Q * ensc Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1184997720 J * [Akuma] ~Akuma_Fan@58.34.250.141 1184998587 J * ensc ~irc-ensc@p54B4F8D3.dip.t-dialin.net 1184998821 J * dna ~naucki@201-246-dsl.kielnet.net 1185001305 Q * puck Remote host closed the connection 1185001775 J * bonbons ~bonbons@2001:5c0:85e2:0:20b:5dff:fec7:6b33 1185003519 J * Akuma_Fan ~Akuma_Fan@58.34.250.141 1185003559 J * DavidS ~david@85.125.165.34 1185003711 Q * dna Quit: Verlassend 1185003777 Q * bonbons Quit: Leaving 1185003949 Q * [Akuma] Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1185004470 J * |jmcaricand| ~kvirc@d83-179-217-104.cust.tele2.fr 1185004612 M * mattzerah hey guys - problem i just encountered - i was getting disk full errors in a guest - i deleted about 90% stuff off the drive so now i have 17G free, and only using 2% of the inodes - but am still getting out of space errors in my guest (host working fine) 1185004636 M * mattzerah is this a known issue by any chance? or is there anyhing i can do about it ? 1185004646 M * mattzerah i have restarted the guest, but i havn't rebooted the machine 1185005465 M * |jmcaricand| mattzerah: see http://www.walkernews.net/2007/07/13/df-and-du-command-show-different-used-disk-space/ 1185005741 Q * |jmcaricand| Quit: KVIrc 3.2.4 Anomalies http://www.kvirc.net/ 1185006299 J * meandtheshell ~markus@85.127.111.2 1185008015 N * DoberMann[ZZZzzz] DoberMann 1185009009 Q * FireEgl Quit: Bye... 1185009752 Q * Akuma_Fan Quit: Leaving 1185010119 J * jmcaricand ~kvirc@d83-179-217-104.cust.tele2.fr 1185010165 M * mattzerah jmcaricand: thankyou - just reading that link now :) 1185010629 M * mattzerah jmcaricand: mmm, there are no "deleted" entries in the lsof in either the host or the guest - and its still not working correctly - works fine in host, but "no space left on device" in the guest 1185010639 M * mattzerah *big sigh* 1185010973 M * jmcaricand mattzerah: You did not activatecontext quotas ? 1185010985 M * mattzerah not on purpose :) 1185011000 M * mattzerah how do i know if they are activated ? in /etc/vservers/ somewhere ? 1185011104 M * mattzerah iv'e tried a few more things, it seems this is only happenign when i'm running rpmbuild 1185011141 M * mattzerah i can create many files just by copying them, but when i run rpmbuild, it throws this error...... 1185011189 M * mattzerah Checking for unpackaged file(s): /usr/lib/rpm/check-files /tmp/RPM_TEMP/ZendFramework_1-1.0.0-3.MSW.centos5-root 1185011190 M * mattzerah sort: write failed: standard output: No space left on device 1185011190 M * mattzerah sort: write error 1185011190 M * mattzerah sort: write failed: standard output: No space left on device 1185011190 M * mattzerah sort: write error 1185011191 M * mattzerah warning: Could not canonicalize hostname: build.cluster.loc 1185011193 M * mattzerah error: create archive failed on file /home/build/rpmbuild/ZendFramework_1/SOURCES/ZendFramework-1.0.0-apidoc.tar.gz: cpio: write failed - No space left on device 1185011222 M * mattzerah works fine on host, just in guest - let me try as root in guest, see if i can nail this down further :) 1185011297 M * mattzerah same error as root 1185011344 M * jmcaricand mattzerah: in /etc/vservers/xxx/fstab, you must have "none /tmp tmpfs size=128m,mode=1777 0 0" 1185011357 M * jmcaricand not 16m 1185011384 M * mattzerah none /tmp tmpfs size=16m,mode=1777 0 0 1185011391 M * mattzerah so i need to change that to 128m ? 1185011400 M * jmcaricand chnage 16m to 128m or + 1185011418 M * jmcaricand and restart your guest 1185011452 M * mattzerah done, looks like its getting furter than it did before.... 1185011464 M * mattzerah champion thankyou jmcaricand :) 1185011493 M * mattzerah so my temp directory was too little - that would do it! 1185011520 M * jmcaricand mattzerah: super :-) 1185011522 M * mattzerah i dind't realise tmp was a ramdrive 1185011526 M * mattzerah is that correct ? 1185011529 M * jmcaricand yes 1185011538 M * mattzerah okay 1185011544 M * mattzerah it doesn't come up in df -h 1185011550 M * mattzerah thankyou very much :) 1185011561 M * jmcaricand mattzerah: Bye 1185011571 M * mattzerah have a great night (day) 1185011618 M * jmcaricand Day, I'm french :-) 1185011860 M * mattzerah (australia here , 8pm ) 1185013507 Q * Aiken Quit: Leaving 1185014456 Q * jmcaricand Quit: KVIrc 3.2.4 Anomalies http://www.kvirc.net/ 1185014485 J * LaZaR ~bla@141.12.66.238 1185014490 M * LaZaR hello 1185014515 M * LaZaR i wanted to know wether there is a default ulimit for processes for vserver 2.0 when i dont set one ? 1185014697 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl_oO 1185014858 J * FireEgl FireEgl@4.0.0.0.1.0.0.0.c.d.4.8.0.c.5.0.1.0.0.2.ip6.arpa 1185015499 M * Bertl_oO LaZaR: depends on the util-vserver version 1185015533 M * Bertl_oO older versions (before 0.30.213) basically propagated the host's ulimit to the guest 1185017463 J * bzed ~bzed@dslb-084-059-105-209.pools.arcor-ip.net 1185019113 M * LaZaR ah thanks 1185019128 M * LaZaR we are going to virtualize the mailserver now :) 1185019278 J * Wonka produziert@chaos.in-kiel.de 1185020632 J * Pazzo ~ugelt@195.254.225.136 1185021360 Q * duckx Remote host closed the connection 1185021487 J * Piet hiddenserv@tor.noreply.org 1185024119 Q * coderanger Read error: Connection reset by peer 1185024674 Q * Piet Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1185025224 J * Piet hiddenserv@tor.noreply.org 1185030850 J * Blissex ~Blissex@82-69-39-138.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk 1185033728 N * ensc Guest900 1185033738 J * ensc ~irc-ensc@p54B4D31E.dip.t-dialin.net 1185033844 Q * Guest900 Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1185034206 J * dummy ~dummy@226.94.62.81.cust.bluewin.ch 1185034685 J * pmenier_off ~pmenier@ACaen-152-1-27-23.w83-115.abo.wanadoo.fr 1185034697 N * pmenier_off pmenier 1185034706 J * dennis ~dennis@i53871AB6.versanet.de 1185034727 M * dennis Hi all 1185034743 M * pmenier Hello 1185034771 M * Supaplex greetingz 1185034853 M * dennis I use Linux-Vserver for 3 machines in some kind of virtual lan and now i wanted to install a nfs server on the host in order to make file exchanges between 2 vservers possible. Are there any special settings i need to care for? 1185034926 M * dennis I set up my /etc/exports on my host with permissions for the local adresses (192.168.0.x) but when i try to mount the directory inside of a vserver i get a permission denied 1185034939 M * Supaplex I haven't tested the localhost patch, but I had contention between the host and guests on the same box 1185034951 M * Supaplex eg, host running nfs server, guest trying to mount nfs export 1185034994 M * Supaplex yup. you might want to mount them somewhere outside the guest, and edit vserver//fstab 1185035008 M * dennis Well i don 1185035011 M * dennis oh sorry 1185035035 M * dennis Well i don't use seperated partitions for each vserver, so this sollution won't work for me i guess 1185035076 M * Supaplex man mount, see 'bind' 1185035128 M * Supaplex eg, /backups/manage /net/riddle/backups ext3 defaults,bind 0 0 1185035149 M * dennis I noticed a strange behavior eg with showmount. In my guest i get a list from all ip adresses on my machine. Is this usual? 1185035169 M * dennis oh, you mean mounting a single directory? 1185035179 M * Supaplex yes 1185035224 M * Supaplex bbiaf, i'm coughing up a lung ;( 1185035231 M * dennis Hmm this could work, i never tried it before. Whats about the uID and gIDs in this case? Wouldn't the vserver get a permission denied 1185035246 M * pmenier you can try vnamespace -e vserver mount --bind / / 1185035285 M * pmenier i use it with 4 vservers to avoid downloading packages debian in /var/cache/apt/archives : it works fine 1185035291 M * Supaplex the uid/gid's are numeric only 1185035367 M * dennis i'll have a try with vnamespace, just a sec 1185035489 M * dennis i am not sure about the syntax. Is the second path relative to my vserver homedir? 1185035517 M * Supaplex in fstab as I suggested, yes. 1185035559 M * dennis oh, hmm 1185035609 M * Supaplex fstab only takes effect on start 1185035673 Q * dummy Remote host closed the connection 1185035677 M * dennis do you talk about a special fstab configured by the host or the fstab inside of my vserver? 1185035713 M * Supaplex /etc/vserver//fstab 1185035716 M * dennis don't mind, found it :) /etc/vservers/boxname/fstab should do it 1185035721 M * dennis :) 1185035819 M * dennis Okay just for my understanding: I need to mount "external" directory inside of my vserver. Then i can mount it with /etc/vserver//fstab, correct? 1185035888 M * Supaplex you could have tested half of these theories in less time to ask 1185035943 M * dennis Well i'm sorry but i never tried to mount a directory with bind before 1185035944 M * Supaplex only mounts in vserver/.../fstab show up in the guest 1185035995 M * Supaplex well neiter did I until a few weeks ago. it didn't take all day to catch on. test it somewhere benign if you're so scared. 1185036046 M * Supaplex if you don't get one or two things, that's ok. it just seems like you're asking for information we've already discussed over and over without trying much of it first. *shrug* 1185036084 M * Supaplex automobiles get built a few pieces at a time. don't try to worry about the whole thing yet 1185036110 M * dennis i just try 1185036124 J * onox ~onox@kalfjeslab.demon.nl 1185036149 M * Supaplex fair enough :) 1185036646 Q * Blissex Remote host closed the connection 1185038088 M * dennis Works great, thank you 1185040101 Q * Piet Quit: Piet 1185040819 J * coderanger ~coderange@c-65-96-210-168.hsd1.ma.comcast.net 1185042450 Q * pmenier Quit: KVIrc 3.2.0 'Realia' 1185043736 M * onox anyone having experience with jfs? 1185043806 M * daniel_hozac experience meaning? 1185043966 J * jmcaricand ~jmcarican@d83-179-217-104.cust.tele2.fr 1185043990 M * onox daniel_hozac: reliability / problems 1185044066 J * sf- moneymaker@i686.cent0s.info 1185044116 M * daniel_hozac then no :) 1185044401 M * daniel_hozac ensc: ping 1185044532 M * onox is it save to use xfs just for /boot,/,/bin,/etc,/dev,/sbin? 1185044629 M * daniel_hozac as long as you don't do anything vserver related there. 1185044649 M * daniel_hozac i.e. no COW 1185044973 M * onox can I use xfs on a partition that is used by a single guest? 1185044996 M * daniel_hozac as long as you don't need COW or disk limits, XFS should be fine. 1185045026 M * onox when would I need COW? 1185045050 M * daniel_hozac typically, with multiple guests on a single filesystem + hashification. 1185045073 M * DavidS onox: iff you want to use hashify 1185045087 A * DavidS shouldn't type and watch tv at the same time ;) 1185045131 Q * DavidS Quit: Leaving. 1185045653 J * ktwilight ~ktwilight@15.104-66-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be 1185045769 M * daniel_hozac ensc: with an exclude list of /bin +/bin/a, /bin/b should be excluded, right? what do i have to do achieve that? 1185046064 Q * ktwilight_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1185046260 J * bob_ ~samv@c-67-168-216-50.hsd1.or.comcast.net 1185046268 Q * bob_ 1185047670 P * sf- 1185047985 Q * coderanger Quit: coderanger 1185048255 J * coderanger ~coderange@c-65-96-210-168.hsd1.ma.comcast.net 1185048594 M * meandtheshell daniel_hozac: hi daniel - regarding the XFS issues with COW and disk limits - are they just temporary or not? 1185048632 M * meandtheshell I noticed some discussion the other day but did not have the time to read up ... 1185048648 M * daniel_hozac disk limits have never been supported on XFS 1185048659 M * daniel_hozac shouldn't be too hard to implement them though. 1185048717 M * meandtheshell I see - what about COW? 1185048719 M * daniel_hozac as for COW, XFS is doing strange things to sendfile, and while we have an idea for how it might be fixed, it's not done yet. 1185048743 M * meandtheshell I see 1185048775 M * meandtheshell if I recall correctly you're using ext3 only - no? 1185048791 M * daniel_hozac yeah. 1185048817 M * meandtheshell I see - are you making use of disk limits? 1185048822 M * daniel_hozac sure. 1185048876 M * daniel_hozac which reminds me, i have to update my kernels to fix that. 1185048899 M * meandtheshell those can be changed also after setting up a guest - yes? 1185048912 M * daniel_hozac yep. 1185048918 M * meandtheshell terrific 1185048928 M * daniel_hozac pretty much everything can be changed on the fly, it's just not automatic. 1185048941 M * daniel_hozac (one day... one day it will be) 1185048957 M * meandtheshell automatic ... can you elaborate that please? 1185048974 M * meandtheshell what might be automatized in this regard 1185049002 M * daniel_hozac well, i'd _love_ something like vserver ... config set dlimits/0/space_total $((5 * 1024 * 1024)) which updates the config _and_ the current value. 1185049017 M * meandtheshell ah - I see 1185049078 M * meandtheshell what hinders you to implement it - isn't it a userspace only issue? 1185049131 M * meandtheshell I mean just hacking util-vserver should suffice - no? 1185049169 M * daniel_hozac yep. 1185049211 M * meandtheshell go for it ;-] 1185049252 M * daniel_hozac thing is, it essentially requires a unified way to get at the configuration files, as well as a way to associate commands with each configuration file. 1185049273 M * meandtheshell you know, ... I am really considering a file system that supports disk limits as well since coping with partions for each guest is way to complicated 1185049289 M * meandtheshell I see 1185049304 M * daniel_hozac this is the hard part, as it requires practically a rewrite of everything configuration related. 1185049328 M * meandtheshell oh ... 1185049332 M * daniel_hozac sure, it could be hacked in quite easily, but that would be a bitch to maintain. 1185049363 M * daniel_hozac this has been on my TODO for probably a year and a half now... 1185049413 M * meandtheshell aha - I see - but I agree - better do it clean and with foresight than quick and dirty and thereby creating a monster in terms of maintenance 1185049492 M * meandtheshell well, if I got it right, it would then also be able to write some code on top of that stuff (util-vserver is .sh if I recall correctly) for GUIs etc. 1185049506 M * meandtheshell s/able/possible/ 1185049530 M * daniel_hozac definitely, that's one of the reasons i want to do it. 1185049561 M * meandtheshell yep, clean unique interface for php or py folks :) 1185049563 M * meandtheshell nice ... 1185049735 M * meandtheshell daniel_hozac: I assume that now (summer holidays) is the only time where you might find time to do it anyways ... :) 1185049803 M * daniel_hozac hehe, you'd think so, but i'm at Princeton working on planet-lab.org ;) 1185049812 M * meandtheshell lol 1185049828 M * daniel_hozac but i have made some progress... i've started on the backend library. 1185049844 M * meandtheshell ok - great 1185049869 M * daniel_hozac it's nowhere near complete yet though, and some things are still not clear how to implement. 1185049984 M * meandtheshell I am a strong believer in your single-mindedness :) 1185050055 M * daniel_hozac if only that was the case... ;) 1185050080 M * meandtheshell that planet thingy looks quite interesting - what your position with this? 1185050120 M * daniel_hozac what do you mean? 1185050143 M * meandtheshell what do you do there - you're a researcher with this project? 1185050148 M * daniel_hozac i'm just an intern for the summer, upgrading the VServer stuff and making some other improvements. 1185050156 M * meandtheshell ah 1185050193 M * meandtheshell some other could be what we were talking before :-] 1185050241 M * daniel_hozac hehe. 1185050448 M * meandtheshell so planetlab is roughly speaking a global super computer composed of distinct nodes which are spread among the globe or what? 1185050500 M * daniel_hozac that's the way i understand it. 1185050507 M * meandtheshell And it's uses for cases studies and researching this distributed stuff as of now? 1185050515 A * meandtheshell too :) 1185050573 M * daniel_hozac yeah, though it runs some things like mirrors as well. 1185050637 M * meandtheshell oh my god - I remember what Terminator said about such a network ... "I became self-aware and started to fight back ..." ohhhhhh :) 1185050649 A * meandtheshell hides in the basement 1185050666 M * daniel_hozac haha. 1185050778 M * meandtheshell ok - thank you for the nice talk - will do something relaxing before I go to bed (reading some rants about the nonsense iPhone or so ...) - cya 1185050812 M * daniel_hozac hehe, cya 1185051244 J * |jmcaricand| ~jmcarican@d83-179-244-157.cust.tele2.fr 1185051634 Q * jmcaricand Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1185053569 J * Abaddon abaddon@68-71.is.net.pl 1185053593 Q * Abaddon 1185053629 J * Abaddon abaddon@68-71.is.net.pl 1185053634 J * Software ~Software@adsl-70-143-58-156.dsl.tul2ok.sbcglobal.net 1185053779 Q * Software 1185053956 Q * Johnnie Remote host closed the connection 1185054218 N * DoberMann DoberMann[ZZZzzz] 1185054790 J * Aiken ~james@ppp121-45-220-241.lns2.bne1.internode.on.net 1185054931 Q * dennis 1185055338 J * Johnnie ~jdlewis@c-67-163-142-234.hsd1.pa.comcast.net 1185055350 Q * |jmcaricand| Quit: KVIrc 3.2.4 Anomalies http://www.kvirc.net/ 1185055852 Q * Abaddon Quit: leaving 1185056454 Q * Pazzo Remote host closed the connection 1185060339 Q * FireEgl Quit: Bye... 1185061456 J * Greek0_ ~greek0@85.255.145.201 1185061482 Q * meandtheshell Quit: Leaving. 1185061529 Q * Greek0 Read error: Connection reset by peer 1185062162 J * FireEgl FireEgl@Sebastian.Tcldrop.US