1183507339 M * trippeh_ Very cozy :)
1183507450 M * trippeh_ Hmm. Better get some sleep, meeting in 6 hours.
1183507462 M * Bertl have a good one! cya!
1183507503 M * trippeh_ later
1183507941 M * slack101 when doing make oldconfig ....is it ok if i just say yes to all the Vserver stuff ?
1183508178 M * slack101 Bertl, also should remap source ip address be there ?
1183508180 M * slack101 enabled per say
1183508183 M * slack101 last question :P
1183508458 M * Bertl depends on your preference
1183508468 M * Bertl if you don't know, take the default :)
1183508470 M * slack101 i jus enalbed the legacy stuff
1183508484 M * slack101 default was no
1183508489 M * slack101 but i took it by accident anyways 
1183508531 M * slack101 Bertl, it wont disable anything will it ?
1183508544 M * slack101 also what is honor guest provacy what does that mean ?
1183508591 M * slack101 i enabled it but what is that for Bertl 
1183508619 M * Bertl check the help, that's what it is for ...
1183508647 M * slack101 Bertl, couldnt you jsut answr that one querstion
1183508648 M * slack101 jeeesh 
1183508662 M * Bertl over and over again?
1183508668 M * slack101 i dont have a browser on here atm or i would 
1183508682 M * slack101 just enable or disable guest security ? :P
1183508684 M * Bertl you are configuring the kernel, no?
1183508693 M * slack101 i mean will that not allow me to view their files ? 
1183508698 M * Bertl with make menuconfig?
1183508708 M * slack101 make oldconfig
1183508717 M * Bertl then it is asking you stuff, right?
1183508721 M * slack101 but i was going to change that value with make menuconfig IF i needed too 
1183508738 M * slack101 Bertl, gues security privacy ... jus what does this do lol ?
1183508741 M * slack101 only question
1183508744 M * Bertl so, in any case, just press '?' and you'll get the help
1183508760 M * slack101 i mean it sounds good
1183508769 M * slack101 but will it make their dir's not viewable by me ?
1183508847 M * slack101 i will just enable 
1183508851 M * slack101 although i dont know what it does
1183509087 M * slack101 anyways i disabled 
1183509102 M * slack101 i see the little help thing in menuconfig i ddint knwo it had that 
1183509945 J * DoberMann_ ~james@AToulouse-156-1-103-113.w90-30.abo.wanadoo.fr
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1183510188 N * onox onox`zZzZ
1183511323 M * slack101 Bertl, i hope this works 
1183511793 M * Bertl good luck
1183512581 M * slack101 accidently just type make modules again damn 
1183512585 M * slack101 gonna be another 30 mins 
1183512606 M * Bertl the kernel does not build them again
1183512663 N * DoberMann_ DoberMann[ZZZzzz]
1183513101 M * Bertl okay, enough for me for today ... I'm off to bed! have fun!
1183513106 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ
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1183519989 M * slack101 wooooooooooooooot
1183519992 M * slack101 SERVWER works 
1183519995 M * slack101 Newest version
1183520018 M * slack101 really sweeeet
1183521921 M * slack101 openVCP site has disappeared
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1183524702 J * click click@ti511110a080-1451.bb.online.no
1183524924 J * mnemoc ~amery@kilo105.server4you.de
1183527944 J * voxio ~voxio@91.186.4.184
1183529587 J * sharkjaw ~gab@158.36.45.236
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1183531891 J * hardwire ~bip@rdbck-6209.wasilla.mtaonline.net
1183533085 J * meandtheshel1 ~markus@85.127.114.183
1183535906 M * sid3windr what's servwer?
1183535941 J * dna ~naucki@95-209-dsl.kielnet.net
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1183538848 N * DoberMann[ZZZzzz] DoberMann
1183539535 J * HeinMueck ~Miranda@dslb-088-065-041-214.pools.arcor-ip.net
1183540250 J * cedric ~cedric@80.70.39.67
1183541517 N * DoberMann DoberMann[PullA]
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1183543856 J * dna ~naucki@95-209-dsl.kielnet.net
1183544239 N * phedny_ phedny
1183545002 J * hendry ~hendry@91.84.62.62
1183545027 M * hendry hi guys, i need some help with networking
1183545039 M * hendry i don't quite understand 0.0.0.0
1183545051 M * eyck- what don't you understand
1183545054 M * hendry i created a VE on 192.168.2.201
1183545059 M * eyck- hmm
1183545063 M * hendry and it seems to think 0.0.0.0:80 is already bound
1183545066 M * eyck- what is it, that you dont understand
1183545081 M * hendry why is 0.0.0.0:80 bound?
1183545094 M * hendry i created a dummy0 similiar to http://seehuhn.de/pages/vserver
1183545097 M * eyck- maybe it is, check with netstat if there's something there
1183545111 M * hendry yes, there is a service there
1183545114 M * hendry running on the host machine
1183545200 M * hendry so on the host machine, if I go `w3m 192.168.1.1` (dummy0) it brings up a Web page
1183545209 M * hendry which i don't want it to... hmmm
1183545299 N * DoberMann[PullA] DoberMann
1183545303 M * eyck- so, bind it to something, and not to 0.0.0.0 (on the host)
1183545438 M * hendry well, in my exp
1183545450 M * hendry machine's services so a lot of binding to 0.0.0.0
1183545451 M * hendry 0.0.0.0 failed: Address already in use.
1183545463 M * hendry i am just trying to work out, how i can get 0.0.0.0 to be isolated
1183545908 M * eyck- hmm, 0.0.0.0 by definition is supposed to bind to everything
1183545929 M * Guy- hendry: if you bind something to 0.0.0.0 on the host, no guest services will be able to bind to that port
1183545945 M * Guy- hendry: configure the daemon on the host to only bind to some addresses, not all (i.e. not 0.0.0.0)
1183545955 M * eyck- with vservers capabilities you can put various programs in containers, and for those 0.0.0.0 would mean something less then 'everything'
1183545966 M * Guy- hendry: or use chbind (see chbind --help)
1183545984 M * eyck- but then, if you want to put something in such container, it would make more sense to put it in it's own guest
1183546000 M * eyck- and not hack the hosts config
1183546019 M * Guy- hendry: it's safe to bind services to 0.0.0.0 in vservers (guests), because they only see the limited set of IPs you assigned to them, so the services end up bound only to those IPs
1183546066 M * hendry ok
1183546318 M * hendry so i need to basically tell my host to only listen on a certain port
1183546330 M * hendry so i need to basically tell my host to only listen on a certain IP sorry
1183546860 M * onox`zZzZ you can bind services in your guest to their guest IP, then use iptables to forward ports of the host to ports of your guest
1183547689 M * hendry yes, I've made the changes to the host
1183547691 M * hendry so all is well
1183547774 J * lilalinux ~plasma@dslb-084-058-232-045.pools.arcor-ip.net
1183548672 J * Piet hiddenserv@tor.noreply.org
1183548927 P * hendry 
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1183551516 J * lilalinux ~plasma@80.69.41.3
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1183552844 J * zul_ ~chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com
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1183553796 N * DoberMann DoberMann[PullA]
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1183554726 J * ema ~ema@rtfm.galliera.it
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1183562215 J * Johnnie ~jdlewis@c-67-163-246-136.hsd1.pa.comcast.net
1183562374 Q * lylix Read error: Connection reset by peer
1183562892 J * emtty ~eric@dynamic-acs-24-154-33-109.zoominternet.net
1183563305 J * zul ~chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com
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1183564024 N * DoberMann[PullA] DoberMann
1183564896 N * ensc Guest419
1183564905 J * ensc ~irc-ensc@p54B4F4EE.dip.t-dialin.net
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1183566362 J * pmenier ~pmenier@LNeuilly-152-22-72-5.w193-251.abo.wanadoo.fr
1183566551 J * bonbons ~bonbons@2001:5c0:85e2:0:20b:5dff:fec7:6b33
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1183569498 J * dreamind ~dreamind@C2107.campino.wh.tu-darmstadt.de
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1183572632 N * onox`zZzZ onox
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1183573204 J * bzed ~bzed@dslb-084-059-118-233.pools.arcor-ip.net
1183573447 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl
1183573452 M * Bertl morning folks!
1183573588 J * Greek0 ~greek0@85.255.145.201
1183573603 M * slack101 Bertl, hello and good morning
1183573619 M * slack101 i am in very much need of OpenVCP and the site is down 
1183573635 M * slack101 and thier mailing list server i guess 
1183573644 M * Bertl somebody probably has mirrored it .. maybe sladen?
1183573656 M * slack101 i really wanted their SVN
1183573663 M * slack101 it really made some big big changes 
1183573674 M * slack101 ive emaile d i think the head dev 
1183573701 M * slack101 dang i reallly need this 
1183573709 M * Bertl and the svn is down too?
1183573815 M * slack101 well i don't know their svn link
1183573844 M * Bertl that's what google cache is for :)
1183573880 M * slack101 welll
1183573921 M * slack101 Bertl, google cache really isnt working for me either 
1183573939 M * Bertl maybe your network is unreachable then?
1183573959 M * Bertl (web browser misconfigured, ...)
1183574921 M * slack101 Bertl, does the site work for you ?
1183574946 M * Bertl nope, but google works here :)
1183574963 M * slack101 i get the front page 
1183574966 M * slack101 of the cache
1183574972 M * slack101 but how am i going to get the SVN ?
1183575289 J * menomc ~amery@kilo105.server4you.de
1183575291 J * onox_ ~onox@kalfjeslab.demon.nl
1183575310 J * ard_ ~ard@gw-cistron.kwaak.net
1183575376 Q * Piet charon.oftc.net panulirus.oftc.net
1183575376 Q * mnemoc charon.oftc.net panulirus.oftc.net
1183575376 Q * phedny charon.oftc.net panulirus.oftc.net
1183575376 Q * onox charon.oftc.net panulirus.oftc.net
1183575376 Q * ard charon.oftc.net panulirus.oftc.net
1183575376 Q * ||Cobra|| charon.oftc.net panulirus.oftc.net
1183575376 Q * waldi charon.oftc.net panulirus.oftc.net
1183575376 Q * mact charon.oftc.net panulirus.oftc.net
1183575376 N * menomc mnemoc
1183575513 M * slack101 Bertl, man i need that openVCP GRRRRRR
1183575522 M * slack101 thats a key componet to vserver control :P
1183575550 J * phedny ~mark@ip56538143.direct-adsl.nl
1183575573 J * mact ~sithkemm@i9a018.informatik.uni-erlangen.de
1183575641 J * ||Cobra|| ~cob@pc-csa01.science.uva.nl
1183576031 J * waldi ~waldi@bblank.thinkmo.de
1183576504 M * slack101 hey anyone has a current OpenVCP and see this let me know i really need it thanks 
1183577225 J * gerrit ~gerrit@c-67-169-199-103.hsd1.or.comcast.net
1183577893 M * sladen openvcp, what the heck is that
1183577945 M * slack101 sladen, do you have any recent copies laying around ?
1183578049 M * sladen slack101: never heard of it.
1183578077 M * sladen slack101: try code.google.com and the google cache
1183578101 M * sladen slack101: now that I know of it I'm happy to mirror it for the future
1183578232 M * slack101 ive tried both thioose things
1183578234 M * slack101 nothing
1183578254 M * slack101 sladen, and i really neeeed it :(
1183578988 M * onox_ vserver control panel
1183578991 N * onox_ onox
1183579076 M * slack101 onox, yea you got it ?
1183579085 M * slack101 you have a copy of the current SVN laying around ?
1183579200 M * onox no
1183579203 M * onox and I don't need it
1183579209 M * onox i'll create my own GUI for vserver
1183579223 M * onox ...if I would find it necessary
1183579262 J * mjt ~mjt@nat.corpit.ru
1183579316 M * slack101 onox, i would tooo BUT its already been done very well in C for the daemon and php .......why would i re create the wheel
1183579452 M * onox they created a daemon?
1183579491 J * lylix ~eric@dynamic-acs-24-154-33-109.zoominternet.net
1183579559 M * onox well, if they used PHP, there's a chance of 99% it's garbage
1183579577 M * micah i thought openvcp was really hacked up last I looked at it
1183579581 M * micah and stagnant
1183579727 M * onox it's just a bunch of some calls to vserver and vserver-stat as I see it
1183579780 M * mjt hmm.  I wonder how stable+grsec can be for 2.6.21 while there's no stable grsec for that kernel yet... ;)
1183579795 P * lylix 
1183579816 M * onox mjt: are you using vsgrsec-sources too?
1183579830 M * mjt never heard of that thing.. what's it? :)
1183579841 M * mjt ahha.. it's stable PREpatch
1183579845 M * onox it's an ebuild that gives you a hardened vserver kernel :p
1183579854 M * onox what's a prepatch?
1183579858 M * mjt and what's an ebuild?
1183579865 M * mjt lol
1183579873 M * onox script that defines how to install packages on gentoo
1183579889 M * onox used by portage (the packagemanager)
1183579894 M * mjt well right. Just ignore me, ok? :)
1183579898 M * onox no
1183579904 M * slack101 onox, how is PHP garbage ? esp for a front end to a daemon written in C
1183579918 M * onox slack101: php ís garbage
1183579919 M * mjt sure i know what a ebuild is... just... kidding.
1183579927 M * onox mjt: have you tried gentoo? :+
1183579935 M * slack101 onox, please give reasons 
1183579935 M * mjt yes
1183579941 M * slack101 its a scripting language 
1183580015 M * mjt PHP?  I thouhgt it's a.. skript kidding language, sort of...
1183580040 M * slack101 its like python perl etc
1183580043 M * emtty slack101: do you sign in as slacker403 at times?
1183580053 M * slack101 it just caught on way faster becasue of its highly avaliable libraries 
1183580055 M * mjt i mean all the security probs in the language itself, plus alot of lame usages of it
1183580065 M * slack101 emtty, why ?
1183580077 M * onox slack101: 1) bunch of hacks, 2) no namespaces/packages, threads/concurrency, no datastructures 3) big bunch of thousands of functions 4) no security, security dudes get ignored 4) fix bugs the wrong way 5) don't know their own code
1183580098 M * onox oops, that's 6
1183580102 M * slack101 lol
1183580104 M * slack101 i agree
1183580106 M * slack101 with alot of that
1183580115 M * slack101 emtty, somoene stole that nick 
1183580115 J * echo ~kvirc@geu62.internetdsl.tpnet.pl
1183580122 M * onox it's an ugly beast that encourages ugly buggy programming
1183580133 M * onox oops, I meant to say: scripting
1183580135 M * slack101 emtty, i had it sooene else registered it and yea i have to use this now 
1183580150 M * onox learn django or rails
1183580151 M * slack101 emtty, why is it you that stole it ? ;)
1183580162 M * slack101 rails is on average 8 times slower 
1183580174 M * onox then use django :p
1183580189 M * slack101 i just use w/e honestly 
1183580200 M * slack101 but since openvcp already uses a php frontend i see no reason to complain to much 
1183580208 M * emtty no, i just see from june 21 a slacker403 ranting about alot of additions to openvcp SVN they did
1183580209 M * onox I rather have a nice language and framework to work with rather than some collected shit
1183580228 M * emtty ie. iptables bandwidth accounting, billing, et. al
1183580259 M * slack101 they did 
1183580261 M * onox unfortunately, I am forced to still use PHP, because some people think it's easy to write webapplications in it
1183580263 M * slack101 but now ther site is down
1183580279 M * slack101 i would prefer to use python / lua 
1183580280 M * onox ...until they realize it's not that easy to write a good webapp
1183580286 M * onox then it's too late
1183580286 M * slack101 or Ocaml
1183580300 Q * echo 
1183580306 M * slack101 but i still think they are langs worse then php 
1183580323 M * onox ofcourse, haskell and basic
1183580352 M * slack101 whats wrong with haskell ?
1183580356 M * slack101 dont like functional ?
1183580358 M * onox no
1183580361 M * onox functional is fine
1183580367 M * onox just don't like to write my whole apps functional
1183580369 M * slack101 ive never used it to be honest
1183580381 M * slack101 but i like erlang and Ocaml 
1183580383 M * slack101 Ocaml more 
1183580383 M * Hollow you can only understand recursion if you understand recursion.
1183580395 M * onox haskell's IO part is a design hack too
1183580411 M * Hollow functional programming sucks :)
1183580419 M * slack101 i dont think haskell is bad ive actually used it a bit but yea 
1183580436 M * onox Hollow: not, if used sparely
1183580443 M * slack101 lol
1183580444 M * onox python's functional features are nice
1183580453 M * slack101 i have written full functional stuff
1183580457 M * slack101 its just a style 
1183580464 M * slack101 python is 40x slower then ocaml 
1183580469 M * Hollow yeah, but i don't like recursion, i'm a fan of iteration ;)
1183580477 M * slack101 me too 
1183580491 M * slack101 ocaml allows me ot use loops / w/e but still use a sort of functional style 
1183580514 M * onox I lke Java :+
1183580519 M * Hollow uh
1183580520 M * Hollow ;)
1183580527 M * slack101 lol
1183580534 M * slack101 hates php but likes java 
1183580544 M * Hollow yeah, kind of weird ;)
1183580554 M * onox slack101: I'm pretty good at php
1183580586 M * slack101 PHP is fine for simple things 
1183580594 M * slack101 its fine for a frontend too OpenVCP
1183580598 M * slack101 the daemon is written in C
1183580618 M * slack101 thats all what it meants for 
1183580621 M * slack101 its fine for a forum 
1183580631 M * slack101 see i think Ruby is not meant for web but w/e 
1183580654 M * onox I find Ruby to be an elegant language
1183580667 M * Hollow yield!
1183580707 M * sladen slack101: if you managed to get a copy from anyone here on the channel, pass a copy onto me and I'll mirror it
1183580741 M * slack101 sladen, yea im going to keep trying 
1183580758 M * slack101 Ruby is a langhuage of careless developer onox  if you want to complain about that 
1183580775 M * onox slack101: explain
1183580783 M * slack101 the performance if ruby ?
1183580787 M * slack101 you have got ot be kidding 
1183580823 M * emtty sladen: a copy from june 16th good enough?
1183580845 M * slack101 SVN ?
1183580851 M * emtty yes
1183580859 M * slack101 2007 ?
1183580867 M * emtty yep
1183580875 M * slack101 should be pretty much up to date 
1183580887 M * slack101 give that to sladen  and sladen give me the link when ya get it 
1183581003 M * slack101 emtty, or you would mageupload that for me if you could :P 
1183581010 M * slack101 i realllly need that 
1183581014 M * sladen emtty: would be excellent
1183581016 M * sladen "need".
1183581031 M * onox slack101: i don't care about the performance, i care about the language itself
1183581037 M * slack101 good
1183581048 M * slack101 sladen, if you could get me that link then that would be super too 
1183581049 M * slack101 :)
1183581146 M * emtty http://lx-x.net/openvcp-svn-2007-06-16.tar.gz
1183581151 M * emtty looks like rev 306
1183581156 M * ktwilight_ oh no, i forgot to stop a guest before deletin', and i've removed the files manually, but couldn't completely 'cuz there /proc, /dev/pts and /tmp are busy, so what can i do? :/
1183581200 M * Bertl ktwilight_: vkill is your friend
1183581210 A * ktwilight_ hugs vkill
1183581258 M * ktwilight_ thank you! :)
1183581260 A * ktwilight_ notes
1183581289 M * Bertl you're welcome!
1183582069 M * slack101 emtty, thanks for that man 
1183582617 Q * mnemoc Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1183582840 J * mnemoc ~amery@kilo105.server4you.de
1183583113 M * slack101 o boy this is gonna be a fun compile :D
1183583162 M * onox ?
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1183583834 N * DoberMann DoberMann[ZZZzzz]
1183584978 J * Piet hiddenserv@tor.noreply.org
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1183585077 J * mugwump ~samv@watts.utsl.gen.nz
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1183585595 J * mnemoc ~amery@kilo105.server4you.de
1183585712 J * daniel_hozac ~daniel@c-051472d5.08-230-73746f22.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se
1183588344 Q * emtty Ping timeout: 480 seconds
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1183589688 J * Aiken ~james@ppp121-45-220-241.lns2.bne1.internode.on.net
1183591123 Q * Aiken Quit: Leaving
1183591242 Q * dna Quit: Verlassend
1183591320 J * Aiken ~james@ppp121-45-220-241.lns2.bne1.internode.on.net
1183591752 J * zul_ ~chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com
1183591752 Q * zul Read error: Connection reset by peer
1183592420 M * slack101 what do you think something means when they ask for RooTDir ?
1183592424 M * slack101 RootDir ?
1183592456 M * slack101 http://phpfi.com/247405
1183592459 M * slack101 for instance ?
1183592606 M * mugwump that' probably the base for looking for things like $foo/vserver/vdir etc
1183592614 A * mugwump guesses
1183592779 M * slack101 mugwump, im not sure 
1183592907 M * Bertl in Linux-VServer terminology, that is the place where the guest is put
1183592922 M * slack101 Bertl, i think its thier philosophy 
1183592931 Q * Piet Read error: Connection reset by peer
1183592938 M * slack101 Bertl, what where would that be ?
1183592953 M * slack101  ./vdir Bertl  ?
1183593001 J * Piet hiddenserv@tor.noreply.org
1183593028 N * onox onox`zZzZ
1183593049 M * Bertl slack101: by default it is /vservers
1183593072 M * slack101 Bertl, what goes in there ?
1183593091 M * slack101 im trying to figure out if they want /etc/vserver or /etcvservers/vdir
1183593350 M * Bertl you did already create a guest, yes?
1183593412 M * slack101 yes
1183593426 M * slack101 Bertl, i am just tyring to figure out what dir i think they meant by root dir ;)
1183593434 M * Bertl so what _is_ in /vservers ?
1183593474 M * slack101 what do you mean ?/
1183593479 M * slack101 i have a /etc/vservers 
1183593482 M * slack101 and thats it 
1183593486 M * slack101 is thier i got a guest
1183593501 M * Bertl then you are using debian I guess :)
1183593558 M * Bertl try 'vserver-info - SYSINFO | grep Rootdir'