1183334409 N * DoberMann DoberMann[ZZZzzz] 1183335163 N * ensc Guest259 1183335173 J * ensc ~irc-ensc@p54B4F80C.dip.t-dialin.net 1183335282 Q * Guest259 Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1183336395 N * ensc Guest260 1183336405 J * ensc ~irc-ensc@p54B4F80C.dip.t-dialin.net 1183336517 Q * Guest260 Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1183337131 J * DoberMann_ ~james@AToulouse-156-1-57-133.w90-16.abo.wanadoo.fr 1183337238 Q * DoberMann[ZZZzzz] Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1183341902 Q * ||Cobra|| Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1183346549 J * ||Cobra|| ~cob@pc-csa01.science.uva.nl 1183351545 M * Bertl okay, off to bed now ... have fun everyone! 1183351549 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ 1183354284 J * click_ click@ti511110a080-5405.bb.online.no 1183354402 Q * click Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1183354847 J * meandtheshell ~markus@85.127.114.183 1183354847 Q * jordi Read error: Connection reset by peer 1183354861 J * jordi ~jordi@115.Red-213-96-69.staticIP.rima-tde.net 1183355239 N * onox`zZzZ onox 1183356664 J * oxylin ~jpeeters@chv78-2-88-161-189-78.fbx.proxad.net 1183356677 M * oxylin Hi everybody 1183356700 M * onox hi oxylin 1183356724 M * oxylin I would like to know, if the post-install script is run in the root server filesystem or in the vserver filesystem (on which root) 1183356874 M * oxylin no ideas ? 1183357086 M * onox post-install script? 1183357309 M * fb harry: i think you re-introduced the old bug in ipv6 patch: http://paste.linux-vserver.org/3200 1183357836 N * nkukard__ nkukard 1183358138 M * onox uh oh, regressions? 1183358175 M * harry fb: i'll check 1183358267 M * harry tb: do you have the latest grsec+vserver patch? 1183358271 M * harry because it's ok here... 1183358309 M * harry config:/usr/local/config/kernel/linux-2.6.21.5-g-v-ipv6# grep gr_cap_rtnetlink security/commoncap.c|wc -l 1183358312 M * harry 0 1183359093 J * DavidS ~david@p54811637.dip0.t-ipconnect.de 1183359101 M * fb hm 1183359179 M * fb harry: sorry, i user old one... (damn, i was sure i got the new one already :/) 1183359456 M * harry hehe 1183359606 M * harry let me know if there are other problems ;) 1183359731 Q * oxylin Quit: Ex-Chat 1183361361 J * dna ~naucki@1-229-dsl.kielnet.net 1183362193 Q * quasisane Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1183362211 J * quasisane ~sanep@c-75-67-252-184.hsd1.nh.comcast.net 1183362401 M * harry fb: let me know if success/failure :) 1183362422 M * fb harry: it has compiled and booted :) 1183362605 M * harry wiiiiii :) 1183362731 J * Punkie ~punkie@235-105-207-85.bluetone.cz 1183362981 Q * ||Cobra|| Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1183363356 J * zul_ ~chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com 1183363356 Q * zul Read error: Connection reset by peer 1183363482 N * DoberMann_ DoberMann 1183363695 M * fb but, unfortunately, i still didn't get ipv6 addresses 1183363766 J * C14r_ ~C14r@h58173.serverkompetenz.net 1183363945 M * harry hmmmm.. 1183363965 Q * C14r Read error: Connection reset by peer 1183364216 M * fb harry: ah, no, not within vserwer, but from our boys who assign ips :) 1183364231 M * harry ah :) 1183364235 M * harry so the patch seems to work? 1183364282 M * fb host seems to work, if it's stable i'll be able to tell after a year or so ;) 1183364288 M * harry hehe 1183364293 M * harry let me know if you run into any problems there :) 1183364300 M * fb sure 1183364319 M * harry wiiiiii... one (for now) happy customer! :) 1183364327 M * harry should i document it somewhere? that patch? 1183364345 M * fb dunno 1183364369 M * harry i'll see what Bertl, daniel_hozac etc... say later on... 1183364462 M * fb address appears in ifconfig when added 1183364502 M * fb i should get an assignment today, i'll drop you a line here then 1183364508 M * harry tnx 1183364967 Q * dna Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1183365063 J * ||Cobra|| ~cob@pc-csa01.science.uva.nl 1183365278 Q * ||Cobra|| Remote host closed the connection 1183365305 J * ||Cobra|| ~cob@pc-csa01.science.uva.nl 1183365392 J * dna ~naucki@14-198-dsl.kielnet.net 1183366168 Q * ||Cobra|| Remote host closed the connection 1183366178 J * cedric ~cedric@m194.net81-64-213.noos.fr 1183366230 Q * cedric 1183366350 J * cedric ~cedric@80.70.39.67 1183366389 J * ||Cobra|| ~cob@pc-csa01.science.uva.nl 1183367020 J * ard ~ard@gw-cistron.kwaak.net 1183367278 Q * FireEgl Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1183368243 N * DoberMann DoberMann[PullA] 1183369337 Q * Greek0 Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1183369442 Q * cehteh Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1183369783 M * starcode Is someone familiar with secure-mount and the nodev option it enforces? 1183369825 M * starcode I have the problem, that i mount my vserver root over nfs... and secure-mount always tries to mount them with nodev 1183369897 M * starcode Current workaround: mount with mount option "nolock"... now secure-mount does not enforce nodev 1183369910 M * starcode Don't know why 1183370348 J * FireEgl FireEgl@2001:5c0:84dc:1:4:: 1183370737 J * lilalinux ~plasma@dslb-084-058-220-107.pools.arcor-ip.net 1183373429 M * DavidS perhaps because you have to be able to lock devs ? (/me has no idea whatsoever) 1183374596 M * fb harry: seems to work 1183374597 M * fb 64 bytes from 2a01:1d8:1:435::dead:deed: icmp_seq=1 ttl=62 time=1.08 ms 1183375459 J * Igor2__ igor2@catv-5062cea3.catv.broadband.hu 1183375544 M * Igor2__ hi, mouse question: i have a vserver guest with /dev/psaux, /dev/input/* and X, but mouse doesn't work 1183375581 M * Igor2__ any typical mistake i could do? 1183375761 Q * transacid Remote host closed the connection 1183376040 J * transacid ~transacid@transacid.de 1183376379 Q * Igor2__ Quit: Leaving 1183376629 J * click click@ti511110a080-0230.bb.online.no 1183376737 Q * click_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1183378041 J * gnutered ~tony@235.170.233.220.exetel.com.au 1183378167 M * gnutered Hmm, I need some help. My production vserver is not letting me enter: 1183378170 M * gnutered http://pastebin.ca/599710 1183378266 M * gnutered it's running OK, can SSH, and seems to be going OK. But I'm worried that it might not start again should I need to reboot the host etc 1183378501 M * gnutered trimmed strace: 1183378504 M * gnutered http://pastebin.ca/599715 1183378561 Q * Aiken Quit: Leaving 1183378563 J * ema ~ema@rtfm.galliera.it 1183378600 M * gnutered one line of interest: open("/etc/vservers/blah/context", O_RDONLY|O_LARGEFILE) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) 1183378618 M * gnutered but none of my other vservers have a context file either, and I can enter them 1183378671 A * harry does the happy-dance! 1183378911 J * Radiance ee02cf8156@halt.1984world.eu 1183380428 M * ktwilight i need to load the fuse module into a vserver guest. the same version is installed on both host and guest. on the host, it is loaded. but the guest doesn't have fuse.ko. would attempting to copy from host and paste into guest be a good move? 1183380782 M * daniel_hozac starcode: please try with 0.30.213. 1183380827 M * daniel_hozac ktwilight: why not load it on the host? 1183380851 M * ktwilight i've loaded on the host, but the guest couldn't find it 1183380864 M * ktwilight fusermount: fuse device not found, try 'modprobe fuse' first <- that's what i get 1183380930 M * DavidS ktwilight: then you need to copy the device from /dev on the host to /dev on the guest 1183380958 M * daniel_hozac gnutered: looks to me like you've lost the run file. 1183380993 M * daniel_hozac gnutered: what does ls -l /var/run/vservers show? 1183381042 M * fb harry: debian.fback.net. But wait wor a week or so before happy-dancing :) 1183381118 M * starcode daniel_hozac: I've already downloaded 0.30.213... and found a few things about nodev in the changelog... I'll give it a try later this day 1183381217 M * starcode But the changelog sounds a bit undecided how to deal with nodev ;-) 1183381233 M * ktwilight DavidS, hm, pardon my noob-ness, but i tried cp and it gives me a "cp: reading `/dev/fuse': Operation not permitted" 1183381266 M * daniel_hozac ktwilight: cp -a. 1183381293 M * DavidS ktwilight: then mknod(1) /dev/fuse in the guest (from host) 1183381300 M * ktwilight ah 1183381302 M * DavidS ah 1183381303 M * DavidS :) 1183381325 M * ktwilight awesome stuff, thanks :) 1183381347 M * ktwilight aik! so i get a mount fail now. 1183381351 A * ktwilight digs 1183383102 Q * zul_ Read error: Connection reset by peer 1183383106 J * zul ~chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com 1183383294 M * gnutered daniel_hozac: it shows an entry for the blah vserver 1183383467 Q * mattzerah Quit: Leaving 1183383542 J * mattzerah ~matt@121.50.222.55 1183383745 M * daniel_hozac gnutered: how about vuname -g --xid context? 1183383842 M * gnutered vuname -g --xid 49156 context: 1183383852 M * gnutered /etc/vservers/old.blah 1183383860 M * gnutered now, there's the problem, I think 1183383868 M * daniel_hozac i'd say so. 1183383880 M * daniel_hozac why would it think it's called old.blah? 1183383907 M * gnutered manually "checkpointed" the server previously, using the high-tech "cp -Rp /etc/blah /etc/old.blah" and the same for /vservers/blah 1183383943 M * gnutered does something in vserver search the directories for a matching context, and found the old one first? 1183383961 M * daniel_hozac what does /etc/vservers/*/name contain? 1183383965 M * gnutered nothing that I can find in /etc/blah mentions /etc/old.blah, unless its using hard links 1183384001 M * gnutered all my vservers are mentioned, with the right names. blah is there, old.blah is not 1183384247 M * daniel_hozac and it has been that way since before you started it? 1183384828 M * gnutered the problem of not being able to "enter"? not sure how long it's been around. The hoster power cycled the machin on me, after I had done my checkpointing. the vserver started OK, but as I normally ssh in, I don't know how long it's been broken like this 1183385232 M * harry --xid 49156 => dynamic contexts? 1183385244 M * daniel_hozac definitely. 1183385251 M * harry not good :) 1183385260 M * daniel_hozac indeed. 1183385345 J * marcfiu ~mef@aegis.CS.Princeton.EDU 1183385458 M * ktwilight is ccapabilities created by default? or would i have to create myself? 'cuz i can't seem to find it 1183385642 M * gnutered why not good? 1183385991 M * gnutered ktwilight: you have to create it for yourself 1183386012 M * ktwilight yup, found out. not sure how to test whether it's actually working or not though. the wiki doesn't say 1183386036 M * gnutered IIRC, if there's a typo, you'll get an error at start up (try it) 1183386074 M * gnutered and there is a command for instantly get/setting the capabilities for a vserver, but I''ve not used it. Maybe the wiki? 1183386099 M * ktwilight good, it works 1183386109 M * ktwilight that means i'm not doing the right thing. 1183386148 M * daniel_hozac vattribute. 1183386266 M * ktwilight cool 1183386336 M * gnutered so, might my problem be that it's found the matching context in the old dir first, and is trying to use that? 1183386517 M * DavidS gnutered: sound's like it 1183386532 M * DavidS try moving /etc/*.old to somewhere else and try again 1183386555 M * gnutered I just tried moving /etc/vservers/old.blah to /etc, and then the enter command again - no diff 1183386570 M * gnutered it might require a restart but am very nervous about trying that 1183386585 M * DavidS try first only restarting the vserver itself? 1183386598 M * gnutered scared to do exactly that 1183386622 J * dna_ ~naucki@226-217-dsl.kielnet.net 1183386623 M * gnutered if I get the same problem, and am unable to restart it, it'd be a bad bad thing 1183386973 Q * dna Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1183387220 Q * Punkie Quit: Leaving 1183388854 M * gnutered OK, I need to better understand contexts. I understand them to be a separation of process space etc, so that each vserver looks like it's running on its own 1183388855 M * gnutered right? 1183388885 M * gnutered ... hang on ... 1183388959 M * gnutered my "cp -Rp /etc/vservers/blah ..." would have also copied the apps/init/mark file 1183389006 M * gnutered and so on the power cycle, it would have tried to start that one too, pointing to the *new* filesystem, not old.blah 1183389028 Q * zul Read error: Connection reset by peer 1183389046 J * zul ~chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com 1183389121 M * gnutered so I can understand how things got tangled up then. 1183389149 M * gnutered so with that "courage" I just stopped "old.blah" and then started "blah", and all seems OK now 1183389151 M * gnutered thanks for all help 1183389380 Q * Radiance Remote host closed the connection 1183390502 J * pmenier ~pmenier@LNeuilly-152-22-72-5.w193-251.abo.wanadoo.fr 1183391191 Q * nebuchadnezzar Quit: ERC Version 5.2 (IRC client for Emacs) 1183391227 P * gnutered 1183392093 N * DoberMann[PullA] DoberMann 1183392108 J * newbie ~radio@vc-196-207-45-253.3g.vodacom.co.za 1183392172 Q * ensc Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1183392683 M * matti :) 1183392944 J * bonbons ~bonbons@2001:5c0:85e2:0:20b:5dff:fec7:6b33 1183393209 J * gdm ~gdm@www.iteration.org 1183393274 Q * gdm 1183393335 J * gdm ~gdm@www.iteration.org 1183393341 P * gdm 1183393381 Q * lilalinux Remote host closed the connection 1183393383 J * gdm ~gdm@www.iteration.org 1183393538 J * nebuchadnezzar ~nebu@zion.asgardr.info 1183393835 J * bzed ~bzed@dslb-084-059-102-210.pools.arcor-ip.net 1183394131 J * gerrit ~gerrit@c-67-169-199-103.hsd1.or.comcast.net 1183394168 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl 1183394178 M * Bertl morning! 1183394211 J * Radiance 6820a3aa02@halt.1984world.eu 1183394220 M * Bertl wb Radiance! 1183394251 M * Radiance thanks mate ! 1183394676 M * bXi yo Bertl 1183394681 M * bXi i've set up another vserver box 1183394700 M * bXi without any problems whatsoever 1183394868 M * Bertl great! 1183394900 M * bzed any plan when the new version for 6.21 will be out? 1183394963 M * bXi Bertl: are there things you'd like to see tested software wise? 1183394980 M * Bertl bzed: which new version? 1183395020 M * bzed vs2.2.0 for 2.6.21 1183395070 M * Bertl you can use the release candidate for that, works quite well (as reported) 1183395082 M * bXi bzed: 6.21 isnt a kernel version to me :P 1183395108 M * Bertl that is a typical dos revision :) 1183395113 M * bzed haha 1183395117 M * bXi yeah 1183395121 M * bXi dos 6.21 makes sense 1183395125 M * Bertl took me a few minutes to figure what he meant :) 1183395129 M * bXi between dos 6.2 and dos 6.22 :D 1183395142 M * bzed which was indeed more useful then windows :P 1183395191 M * bXi Bertl: are there things you'd like to see tested software wise? 1183395446 Q * pmenier Quit: pmenier 1183395542 M * Bertl bXi: always, especially tagging, locks and signalling, as well as the scheduler with NOHZ (on 2.6.21/2.6.22) 1183395654 M * matti Hi Bertl :) 1183396037 M * Bertl hey matti! 1183396159 M * gdm hey matti!! 1183396165 M * gdm hi Bertl 1183396229 M * bXi Bertl: any software which does that? 1183396233 A * bXi aint a guru :p 1183396264 J * ensc ~irc-ensc@p54B4F7DD.dip.t-dialin.net 1183396353 M * Bertl bXi: well, there are probably test suites out there 1183397468 Q * newbie 1183397672 M * daniel_hozac Bertl: how do you feel about an option to disable the dx_check for dx_permission? 1183397701 M * Bertl hmm, purpose? 1183397746 M * daniel_hozac i suppose to let bind mounts between guests work, while retaining disk limit functionality. 1183397883 M * Bertl hmm, you mean host dirs --bind mounted into several guests? 1183397901 M * Bertl what problem do they have now with dx_permission? 1183397926 M * daniel_hozac well, in my case, i have /data/pub which has my mirror on it. 1183397942 M * daniel_hozac this should be available for all guests. 1183397963 M * daniel_hozac one of the guests has /data/, which should be limited to 20 GB. 1183397969 M * daniel_hozac (/data is one filesystem) 1183398007 M * daniel_hozac so, i have to mount with -o tag. 1183398025 M * daniel_hozac the problem is that when the mirror guest syncs the trees, any new files will be tagged with that xid. 1183398046 M * daniel_hozac and the other guests can't use the mirror anymore. 1183398082 M * Bertl i.c. well, the proper solution to that is the long planned tagid= stuff 1183398114 M * Bertl in which case you would remount that filesystem inside the guest (--bind) with xid=0) 1183398144 M * daniel_hozac ah, hmm. yeah, makes sense. 1183398178 M * daniel_hozac by long planned i assume this is not fully implemented yet? 1183398230 M * Bertl nope, actually I considered removing it completely, because it seemed not that useful to me 1183398317 M * daniel_hozac what's missing? 1183398339 M * Bertl the xid propagation/override 1183398352 M * Bertl should not be too hard to add, actually 1183398659 M * daniel_hozac hmm, where would it have to be added? is ext[234]/jfs/reiserfs/xfs_lookup not enough? 1183398676 M * slack101 Bertl, why not build something like that virtuatabkles into the root process of vserver ..........just noticed thats how openVZ does it ;) 1183398691 M * daniel_hozac "root process of vserver"? 1183398695 M * Bertl slack101: you are wrong again :) 1183398702 M * slack101 someone lied to me then ;) 1183398724 M * Bertl slack101: OVZ uses network virtualization 1183398736 M * slack101 sure about that ? 1183398750 M * daniel_hozac he's only looked at the code, i'm sure you've done more. 1183398751 M * slack101 its os level virtulization 1183398752 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: basically you have to store the tag in the vfs mount 1183398762 J * Greek0 ~greek0@85.255.145.201 1183398776 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: and override the tag calculations when the vfsmount flag is set 1183398781 M * Bertl wb Greek0! 1183398783 M * daniel_hozac Bertl: so all that's missing is a mnt->mnt_tag = tag in do_mount, after dx_parse_tag? or am i missing something? 1183398796 M * daniel_hozac ah, right. 1183398803 M * Bertl slack101: with a virtual network stack, look at the code if you don't trust me :) 1183398809 M * daniel_hozac dx_check isn't modified. 1183398816 M * slack101 Bertl, does this slow things down ? 1183398867 M * Bertl slack101: yep, it add twice the overhead on the network stack side 1183398876 M * slack101 forget them then they lied to me 1183398891 M * Bertl slack101: this is because packets now have to traverse two stacks (and usually a bridge too) 1183398908 M * slack101 why would the forum people lie 1183398913 M * slack101 dumbasses 1183398937 M * Bertl well, there are two groups of folks engaged on the OVZ stuff 1183398953 M * Bertl - folks working for swsoft 1183398987 M * Bertl - folks not knowing the code but being very enthusiastic about the 'brand new technique' :) 1183399015 M * slack101 i dont get why these people would li 1183399016 M * slack101 e 1183399042 M * Bertl the first group will tell you everything which is good for 'the product' 1183399062 M * Bertl the second group will not know except for the stuff they get told from marketing 1183399112 M * slack101 hmm 1183399119 M * daniel_hozac well... people like coming up with their very own explanations for how things work too. 1183399123 M * slack101 i guess linux vserver is the lightest when it comes to VPS's 1183399125 M * daniel_hozac we've seen that a number of times ;) 1183399143 M * Bertl daniel_hozac: yeah, right ... 1183399150 M * slack101 i almost bought their windows version cirtuzzo or w/e 1183399157 M * slack101 vir* 1183399160 M * slack101 899.99 1183399177 M * Bertl 900 USD? 1183399182 M * slack101 casue its the only software isolation system for windows 1183399184 M * slack101 yes 1183399199 M * Bertl not too shabby? for a year or what? 1183399206 M * daniel_hozac actually, there are others. 1183399212 M * slack101 i didnt really check i jus needed it ;) 1183399213 M * daniel_hozac i just can't remember any names right now. 1183399220 M * slack101 no? 1183399224 M * slack101 for windows ? 1183399226 M * daniel_hozac yes. 1183399232 M * slack101 isolation not vmware kind of thing ? 1183399240 M * daniel_hozac yes. 1183399241 M * slack101 i searched for 3 hours 1183399250 M * slack101 I found one 1183399275 M * lylix slack101: are you sure that's it or the fact that networking is virtualized and not isolated like vserver? 1183399302 M * slack101 lylix, which thing or are you talking about ? 1183399317 M * lylix ah, crap... haha... wasnt at the bottom of the log... missed all this new stuff... from 14:51 1183399363 M * slack101 ah 1183399365 M * slack101 daniel_hozac, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operating_system-level_virtualization 1183399371 M * slack101 only 1 windows one 1183399390 M * slack101 and i think they use some kind of sharing and cache'ing so its not like isolation in the vserver manner 1183399501 M * slack101 daniel_hozac, if you could remember that would be SUPER 1183399519 M * slack101 casue im about to use Microsfot virtual server .........which is basically a vmware kind of thing 1183399568 M * Bertl yeah, but I guess this is off-topic here again :) 1183399659 M * lylix Bertl: btw, anything new on the nework namespace patches from biederman in mainline? 1183399684 M * Bertl haven't looked at it for a while, maybe daniel_hozac knows more? 1183399697 M * daniel_hozac i haven't kept up with containers-list, unfortunately. 1183399704 M * slack101 Bertl, you really hate OT huh :P 1183399721 Q * arachnist Quit: brb/bbl 1183399725 M * daniel_hozac IIRC it's waiting on some feature which is going to be introduced in like 2.6.23 though. 1183399739 M * lylix k, ill have to troll the archives later, hopefully its still in devel 1183399743 M * daniel_hozac (RT_NEWLINK?) 1183399805 Q * cedric Quit: cedric 1183400152 J * BenG ~ben@82-45-23-100.cable.ubr03.azte.blueyonder.co.uk 1183400236 M * slack101 i wish windows had chroot :\ 1183400295 M * Bertl slack101: well, suggest it to micro$oft then :) 1183400336 J * arachnist ~arachnist@088156185052.who.vectranet.pl 1183400369 M * Bertl wb BenG! arachnist! 1183400402 M * BenG Hi Bertl 1183400448 M * BenG guess, why I am here? well, yes, I have trouble with a vserver setup 1183400457 M * BenG keeps soft locking 1183400473 M * Bertl hmm? 1183400516 M * daniel_hozac kernel? utils? 1183400531 M * BenG Linux magico 2.6.21-1-vserver-amd64 #1 SMP Sat May 26 17:53:17 CEST 2007 x86_64 GNU/Linux 1183400558 M * BenG it's the Debian unstable one, though have had same problem with both 2.6.20 and 2.6.18 both stock debian 1183400583 M * daniel_hozac and the problem is? 1183400602 M * BenG the kernel freezes after sending a sock lock report to syslog 1183400630 M * BenG running both 32-bit and 64-bit guests 1183400648 M * BenG 4Gigs RAM 1183400651 M * daniel_hozac where's the report? :) 1183400651 M * Bertl could you upload the kernel trace and try a mainline kernel? 1183400694 N * C14r_ C14r 1183400755 M * BenG where should I upload to? 1183400766 M * Bertl paste.linux-vserver.org 1183400890 M * BenG http://paste.linux-vserver.org/3251 1183400904 M * BenG that's one from a while back, there have been lots 1183400928 M * BenG I have been trying to exclude hardware faults over the past week or so 1183400955 M * BenG if you want any more, let me know 1183401009 M * daniel_hozac well, you should get one from a recent kernel. 1183401025 M * BenG k 1183401026 M * Bertl BenG: what filesystem? 1183401029 M * BenG ext3 1183401053 M * Bertl okay, please let's try a 2.6.19.7 mainline 1183401065 M * Bertl BenG: how reproduceable is this? 1183401109 N * DoberMann DoberMann[PullA] 1183401171 M * BenG I seem to have it happening spontaneously every few days 1183401188 M * Bertl can you trigger that? 1183401214 M * Bertl df 1183401219 M * BenG but seem to be also getting to a stage where I can provoke it where I notice that often triggered by logging via ssh and running verser stat 1183401224 M * BenG vserver-stat sorry 1183401324 M * BenG http://paste.linux-vserver.org/3252 1183401332 M * BenG another more recent paste 1183401353 M * BenG so, mailine kernel, which should I use? 1183401389 M * Bertl if you are looking for stability, I would stick with 2.6.19, or 2.6.21 with some patches 1183401402 M * BenG in trying to rule out hardware faults I bought a new motherboard, and it needs a newer version of the jmicron module boot 1183401412 M * BenG okay, then 2.6.21 1183401433 M * Bertl but make sure to patch for the sysfs issue, daniel_hozac should have a fix 1183401453 Q * quasisane Read error: Connection reset by peer 1183401458 M * BenG The latest prepatch version of the stable Linux-VServer patch for 2.6.21 is: 2.6.21.5 vs2.2.0-rc3 ? 1183401495 M * arachnist Linux 2.6.21.5-vs2.2.0-rc3 1183401502 M * Bertl yep 1183401508 M * BenG will do 1183401524 M * arachnist what's the difference between -rc3 and 2.2.0? 1183401525 M * Bertl but as I said, make sure to add the sysfs fix 1183401540 M * arachnist what sysfs fix? 1183401542 M * Bertl arachnist: the 2.6.21 version is not sufficiently tested yet 1183401554 M * BenG where would that be then? the sysfs fix? 1183401566 A * arachnist doesn't have any sysfs fix ;/ 1183401650 M * daniel_hozac ftp://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/akpm/patches/2.6/2.6.22-rc1/2.6.22-rc1-mm1/broken-out/gregkh-driver-sysfs-allocate-inode-number-using-ida.patch ? 1183401652 P * starcode 1183401654 M * Bertl http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Stuff/patch-sysfs-fix-2.6.21.diff 1183401717 M * daniel_hozac ah right, that's the backport. 1183401830 M * slack101 daniel_hozac, btw another hour of searching ........nothing ;) 1183401875 M * BenG daniel_hozac: should I try the 22? or go for the 21? 1183401931 M * BenG also, general question, should I be reporting these sock locks to the mainline kernel developers, or just to you people? 1183401950 A * BenG laughs at himself 1183401953 M * BenG sock locks! 1183401953 M * Bertl once you know that _mainline_ exposes it ... 1183401963 M * BenG good point 1183401970 M * Bertl all you know now is that a debian kernel shows it 1183402056 M * BenG Debian vserver kernel at that 1183402084 M * BenG actually, 3 different debian vserver kernel showing lock ups 1183402088 J * quasisane ~sanep@c-75-67-252-184.hsd1.nh.comcast.net 1183402108 M * Bertl wb quasisane! 1183402304 M * BenG cheers Bertl, daniel_hozac, arachnist 1183402327 M * BenG good to have someone to listen and understand my woes, even though totally unresolved at this point 1183402333 M * BenG will make a report tommorrow 1183402351 M * BenG but also want to poke and prob and see if I can make it fall over in a consistent way 1183402366 M * Bertl yeah, that would be great 1183402403 M * BenG nn 1183402404 P * BenG 1183402405 J * cehteh ~ct@pipapo.org 1183403077 J * cedric ~cedric@rny93-2-82-66-66-30.fbx.proxad.net 1183403476 Q * DavidS Quit: Leaving. 1183404437 J * itamarjp ~itamar@189-015-64-245.xd-dynamic.ctbcnetsuper.com.br 1183407623 Q * itamarjp Quit: Ex-Chat 1183409124 M * meandtheshell hi folks - does anybody run http://www.citadel.org/doku.php inside a guest? 1183409157 M * meandtheshell that citadel thingy ain't looking bad - all C, no php :-] 1183409158 M * daniel_hozac " 1183409158 M * daniel_hozac "DokuWiki Setup Error 1183409158 M * daniel_hozac The indexdir ('index') does not exist, isn't accessible or writable. You should check your config and permission settings. Or maybe you want to run the installer? 1183409169 M * daniel_hozac is that really what you wanted to show us? :) 1183409184 M * Bertl all C, no php :) 1183409223 M * meandtheshell daniel_hozac: hm ... URL works fine here 1183409355 M * meandtheshell daniel_hozac: you still get errors - yes? 1183409374 M * daniel_hozac works fine now. 1183409392 M * meandtheshell wtf - now it breaks here ;) 1183409392 M * daniel_hozac just some warnings at the top of the page. 1183409398 M * meandtheshell right - same here 1183409420 M * meandtheshell well, that must be the php :-] 1183409854 M * Bertl looks nice ... 1183410024 M * meandtheshell yeah - doesn't look that bad 1183410081 Q * bonbons Quit: Leaving 1183411142 Q * besonen_mobile Quit: Leaving 1183411150 Q * cedric Remote host closed the connection 1183411234 J * Aiken ~james@ppp121-45-220-241.lns2.bne1.internode.on.net 1183411256 M * Bertl morning Aiken! 1183411313 J * cedric ~cedric@rny93-2-82-66-66-30.fbx.proxad.net 1183411318 M * meandtheshell Bertl: do you use/administer any groupware? 1183411328 M * meandtheshell daniel_hozac: you? 1183411348 M * meandtheshell I am looking for something that works nicely with Linux-VServer 1183411471 M * daniel_hozac best way is to try them, i suppose. closest thing to groupware i've got is squirremail ;) 1183411486 M * Bertl vi here :) 1183411583 M * meandtheshell lol - nutters ;-] 1183411608 M * meandtheshell yep - /me is also a group of ONE 1183411629 M * meandtheshell therefore Emacs is the groups groupware ;) 1183411717 M * eyck- vim is kicking bottom all around 1183411999 J * besonen_mobile ~besonen_m@71-220-233-253.eugn.qwest.net 1183412321 M * slack101 Bertl, ok Bertl i finnaly decided to use Linux Vserver as my hosting solution ;) 1183412328 M * daniel_hozac Bertl: opinions on a vc_[sg]et_iattr variant that works on fds? 1183412363 M * Bertl hmm, advantages over the path based? 1183412389 M * daniel_hozac less racy. 1183412404 M * daniel_hozac i.e. you know what file you're setting it on. 1183412471 M * Bertl hmm, okay, I think I have no real problem with that 1183412503 M * Bertl but we have to keep the existing interface too, otherwise you are out of luck for non file objects :) 1183412514 M * daniel_hozac yeah, totally. 1183412563 M * Bertl if you want to extend the interface for this, probably the best is to choose a custom command number in the same category 1183412606 Q * derjohn Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1183412655 M * daniel_hozac indeed. i was thinking something like a _fd suffix. 1183412794 M * Bertl why not use the kernel naming .. i.e. vc_f[gs]et_iattr ? 1183412825 M * daniel_hozac ah, yeah, that makes more sense ;) 1183413096 J * derjohn ~derjohn@80.69.41.3 1183413212 M * daniel_hozac so, just to make sure, you'd prefer this over an ioctl, right? 1183413359 M * Bertl yeah, we had the ioctls 1183413439 M * daniel_hozac yeah, that's what i figured. 1183413777 P * marcfiu 1183414113 Q * pusling Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1183415072 M * slack101 man 2 failed vserver compiles grrrr 1183415119 M * Bertl what are vserver compiles? 1183415141 A * slack101 clears throat 1183415164 A * slack101 also thinks Bertl knows what he meant, but is trying to act like he doesnt 1183415214 A * Bertl wouldn't ask if he would know ... 1183415340 M * Bertl + 1183415353 M * daniel_hozac cleaning your keyboard again? ;) 1183415553 M * Bertl kind of .. :) 1183415750 J * besonen_mobile_ ~besonen_m@71-220-233-253.eugn.qwest.net 1183415849 Q * meandtheshell Quit: Leaving. 1183416105 J * ntrs_ ntrs@68-188-55-120.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com 1183416126 Q * ntrs Read error: Connection reset by peer 1183416156 Q * FireEgl Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1183416159 Q * besonen_mobile Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1183417109 M * Bertl nap attack ... back later ... 1183417114 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ 1183417373 N * DoberMann[PullA] DoberMann 1183418146 M * slack101 Bertl_zZ, the kernel 1183418290 M * slack101 is thier any backup feature in linux vserver ? 1183418388 J * ktwilight_ ~ktwilight@224.76-66-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be 1183418747 Q * dna_ Quit: Verlassend 1183418796 Q * ktwilight Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1183419084 Q * cedric Quit: cedric 1183419602 N * DoberMann DoberMann[ZZZzzz]