1180830089 Q * nkukard Read error: Connection timed out 1180832255 J * samuel ~samuel@nat-dip5.fw.corp.yahoo.com 1180833853 Q * samuel Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1180835130 N * DoberMann[PullA] DoberMann 1180835759 J * DoberMann_ ~james@AToulouse-156-1-176-37.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr 1180835864 Q * DoberMann Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1180837786 Q * bzed Quit: Leaving 1180840186 J * badari1 ~badari@bi01pt1.ct.us.ibm.com 1180840563 Q * badari Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1180841243 J * badari2 ~badari@bi01p1.co.us.ibm.com 1180841517 Q * badari1 Read error: Operation timed out 1180843011 Q * meandtheshell Quit: Leaving. 1180846489 J * chemaja ~chemaja@c220-237-34-48.brasd1.vic.optusnet.com.au 1180850059 J * nkukard ~nkukard@dsl-240-17-72.telkomadsl.co.za 1180853100 J * slack101 ~Administr@cpe-71-74-68-11.insight.res.rr.com 1180853104 M * slack101 anyone up ? 1180853111 M * slack101 prolly not 1180853589 M * nkukard :) 1180853720 J * samueltc ~samuel@nat-dip5.fw.corp.yahoo.com 1180853721 M * samueltc hi 1180853743 M * samueltc is python-vserver binding still alive? 1180853770 M * samueltc http://www.paul.sladen.org/vserver/contrib/python-bindings/ 1180853783 M * samueltc 2003 1180854619 M * slack101 whats it for ? 1180855221 M * samueltc python binding to libvserver? 1180855925 Q * chemaja Remote host closed the connection 1180856344 Q * samueltc Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1180857910 J * dna ~naucki@p54BCD7FA.dip.t-dialin.net 1180858479 J * bonbons ~bonbons@ppp-111-230.adsl.restena.lu 1180863242 M * nebuchadnezzar hello 1180863258 M * nebuchadnezzar any 2.6.21-vs2.3 patch to test ? 1180864479 J * tokkee tokkee@casella.verplant.org 1180864696 M * daniel_hozac not yet. 1180864717 M * nebuchadnezzar ok, thanks 1180864822 M * tokkee Hi. 1180864846 M * tokkee Is it save to clone a running vserver using vcopy or vrescue? 1180864886 M * nebuchadnezzar I think it depends on what's running ;-) 1180864887 M * daniel_hozac i don't even know what that is. 1180864902 M * daniel_hozac but it's always best to stop the guest before cloning it 1180864921 M * daniel_hozac (or at least perform a second rsync after you've stopped it) 1180865098 M * tokkee IC... well I have to run both instances in parallel for a short while and I do not want any downtime - so I guess, I'm going to do a couple of rsync runs and just be aware that there might be some minor data inconsistencies (which should mostly be logfiles). 1180865228 J * bzed ~bzed@dslb-084-059-112-189.pools.arcor-ip.net 1180867070 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl 1180867075 M * Bertl morning folks! 1180867174 Q * cehteh Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1180867191 J * cehteh ~ct@pipapo.org 1180867306 J * onox ~onox@kalfjeslab.demon.nl 1180867346 M * Bertl wb onox! 1180867433 M * onox hi Bertl! 1180868274 J * ema ~ema@rtfm.galliera.it 1180868281 M * Bertl wb ema! 1180868291 M * ema hey Bertl ! 1180870486 J * SoftIce ~radio@vc-196-207-45-253.3g.vodacom.co.za 1180870497 M * SoftIce yo, where is the best to setup snort, vserver or host? 1180870932 N * DoberMann_ DoberMann 1180871517 J * marcfi1 ~mef@201.53.1.230 1180872163 Q * Aiken Quit: Leaving 1180873510 J * Piet hiddenserv@tor.noreply.org 1180873516 P * marcfi1 1180874120 J * meandtheshell ~markus@85-124-39-21.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at 1180874799 Q * fosco Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1180876761 M * SoftIce hmmm, somebody can sugest how this could be added to vserver fstab 1180876777 M * SoftIce i'd like this to be added to the fstab mount --rbind /etc/snort /var/lib/vservers/blackhole/etc/snort 1180876798 M * SoftIce if i don't and use a script to add it then i have to re-start the vserver for it show up. 1180876802 M * daniel_hozac put rbind in options. 1180876914 M * SoftIce thanks 1180877878 M * onox SoftIce: does snort need raw network traffic? 1180878028 M * SoftIce onox yup 1180878050 M * SoftIce but!!! i've compiled the rules to the vserver 1180878055 M * SoftIce and using a front end from there 1180878069 M * SoftIce to re-write the rules back to the host 1180878105 Q * transacid Quit: need to restart irssi 1180878118 M * daniel_hozac so basically, you're letting a guest tell the host what to do? 1180878151 M * onox wicked 1180878166 J * transacid ~transacid@transacid.de 1180878204 M * SoftIce daniel_hozac: no no, i have my web server, etc etc all running on the vserver, and using acidbase on the vserver 1180878263 M * SoftIce doesn't that sound like a good idea 1180879727 M * SoftIce daniel_hozac: or how else would you propose i setup my rules to query a mysql db, etc? 1180879826 J * fosco fosco@konoha.devnullteam.org 1180879867 M * Bertl wb transacid! fosco! 1180879878 M * transacid thx 1180879891 M * transacid after a libc6 update irssi went crazy ;) 1180879938 J * dlezcano1 ~dlezcano1@AToulouse-252-1-42-238.w82-125.abo.wanadoo.fr 1180880193 M * fosco hi 1180880195 M * fosco vxW: xid=2 messing with the devpts. 1180880210 M * fosco anyone knows what this thing is trying to say? 1180880227 M * Bertl the guest with xid=2 is try to access devpts entries which do not belong to him 1180880239 Q * Piet Remote host closed the connection 1180880247 M * Bertl most likely you entered the guest and tried to start something like screen 1180880256 M * fosco or apt-get update 1180880276 M * fosco arf, I got that when entering 1180880317 M * fosco must be normal then, sorryu 1180880378 Q * ema Quit: leaving 1180880571 Q * onox Quit: leaving 1180881347 Q * dlezcano1 Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1180881372 J * dlezcano1 ~dlezcano1@AToulouse-252-1-93-188.w86-201.abo.wanadoo.fr 1180882369 Q * dlezcano1 Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1180882927 J * dlezcano1 ~dlezcano1@AToulouse-252-1-33-178.w83-193.abo.wanadoo.fr 1180883686 M * SoftIce Fatal error: Call to undefined function mysql_connect() in /usr/share/php/adodb/drivers/adodb-mysql.inc.php on line 357 1180883690 M * SoftIce any ideas what i could be missing? 1180883995 M * fosco I have a strange problem when starting a vserver with newer util-vserver 1180883995 M * fosco vsched: non-numeric value specified for '--priority_bias' 1180884029 M * fosco maybe some new file missing in the configuration directory, but I don't know 1180886319 N * ensc Guest973 1180886329 J * ensc ~irc-ensc@p54b4f38b.dip.t-dialin.net 1180886438 Q * Guest973 Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1180887798 N * Bertl Bertl_oO 1180887809 M * Bertl_oO translocating .. back later ... 1180888683 M * daniel_hozac fosco: you've got dummy on the last line of /etc/vservers//schedule? 1180889675 M * bXi SoftIce: you need to install php with mysql enabled 1180889704 M * baldy ahh hihi same error as me yesterday 1180889736 M * baldy fosco: did u a update to the new 213 utils? 1180889754 M * baldy the best think is 1180889761 M * baldy copy the guest 1180889766 M * baldy delete the vserver 1180889771 M * baldy and creat a new one 1180889782 M * baldy and copy the old file back to /vserver or where ver 1180889825 M * daniel_hozac no, the _best_ thing is to simple fix your incorrect configuration. 1180889832 M * daniel_hozac s/simple/simply/ 1180889867 M * baldy daniel_hozac: how u said it to me yesterday doesnt work it 1180889872 M * daniel_hozac yes, it does. 1180890350 M * slack101 baldy: you installed the SVN of openVCP correct? 1180892361 M * SoftIce does anyone have a good snortsam howto ? 1180892618 M * baldy slack101: sure 1180893192 M * slack101 baldy: how do u install it ? 1180893196 J * samueltc ~samuel@66.201.52.100 1180893262 M * samueltc good morning 1180893333 M * baldy slack101: what exacly if your ptoblem 1180893783 J * |jmcaricand| ~kvirc@d77-216-231-200.cust.tele2.fr 1180894283 J * tzafrir ~tzafrir@62.90.10.53 1180894338 M * tzafrir hi, it seems that my vservers have become unavailable from the network. This is probably because the network interface of the host has been temporarily down 1180894364 M * tzafrir How do I get the interfaces of the guests up without rebooting them? 1180894372 M * sid3windr hehe 1180894380 M * sid3windr I once changed netmask on the host's eth0 and had to restart all guests 1180894381 M * sid3windr :/ 1180894406 M * daniel_hozac tzafrir: just readd the IP addresses. 1180894443 M * tzafrir daniel_hozac, name of command or any other reference? 1180894457 M * daniel_hozac ip addr add 1180894483 M * tzafrir in the guests? 1180894506 M * tzafrir or in the host? 1180894508 M * daniel_hozac nom on the host. 1180894514 M * daniel_hozac guests cannot modify network settings. 1180894620 Q * samueltc Read error: Operation timed out 1180894664 M * tzafrir thanks. It worked 1180894924 M * slack101 baldy: i put it on my server and i get a 404 but the index is right there 1180894926 M * slack101 real wierd 1180894976 Q * |jmcaricand| Quit: KVIrc 3.2.4 Anomalies http://www.kvirc.net/ 1180895226 Q * meandtheshell Remote host closed the connection 1180895281 J * meandtheshell ~markus@85-124-39-21.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at 1180895685 M * baldy slack101: what about the .htaccess file 1180895701 M * slack101 yea 1180895709 M * slack101 i forgot about that 1180895714 M * slack101 baldy: an d im using lighttpd 1180895718 M * baldy nope 1180895720 M * slack101 looks like i need the equiv. 1180895720 M * baldy apache 1180895736 M * slack101 thats the only thing thats apache specific right ? 1180896054 M * slack101 baldy: ? :P 1180896174 N * Bertl_oO Bertl_zZ 1180896296 M * baldy i dont know lighttpd 1180896327 M * fosco thanks daniel_hozac, baldy, I just read the FAQ. another change in configuration directory :) 1180896849 N * DoberMann DoberMann[Flim] 1180897355 M * slack101 baldy: is that the only reason why openvcp requires apache 2 ? for the mod rewrite ? 1180898730 Q * SoftIce 1180898937 J * ema ~ema@rtfm.galliera.it 1180900831 M * tanjix dmesg is showing me: 1180900832 M * tanjix process `named' is using obsolete setsockopt SO_BSDCOMPAT 1180900845 M * tanjix is this somethng bad inside a vserver? 1180901002 M * daniel_hozac no. 1180901006 M * daniel_hozac that's vanilla. 1180901389 M * tanjix sorry? 1180901577 M * daniel_hozac ah, i missed the a in your question ;) 1180901582 M * daniel_hozac that could be anywhere. 1180902189 M * trippeh Is there any progress on fixing that bug that resurfaced in 2.6.21-vs? 1180902202 M * daniel_hozac we've already fixed dit. 1180902203 M * derjohn daniel_hozac, could you crosscheck for me if I wrote bullshit about percpu-foo? http://blog.derjohn.de/snipsnap/space/start/2007-06-03/1 ? 1180902212 M * daniel_hozac there's just not been a new patch. 1180902218 M * trippeh daniel_hozac: Aha, ok 1180902225 M * trippeh I guess its right around the corner then 1180902236 M * derjohn bonbons, http://blog.derjohn.de/snipsnap/space/start/2007-06-03/1 <-- just to let you know. again, do you use v6 as module or statically compiled in? 1180902244 M * sid3windr I can see an error, derjohn :p 1180902254 M * sid3windr it's "raised" or "increased" not "rose" :p 1180902260 M * sid3windr about the content, I have no clue :> 1180902286 M * sid3windr .oO( what is kehler ? ) 1180902312 M * derjohn sid3windr, kehler ? .... 1180902324 M * sid3windr I'm in your blog, reading your posts! 1180902326 M * sid3windr yes, it's in your post 1180902334 M * sid3windr "the kheler hangs with 99% CPU consumption." 1180902358 M * bonbons sid3windr: I guess that's khelper 1180902358 M * derjohn khelper 1180902360 M * derjohn *g* 1180902373 M * derjohn thx 1180902374 M * sid3windr to top my nagging off, the link at the top "derjohn:cyberspace" takes me to a nonexisting page :> 1180902410 M * sid3windr in return I clicked your google ad, I was even really interested in the content :] 1180902432 M * derjohn sid3windr, dict.leo.org says: "i to rise | rose, risen | ansteigen" 1180902449 M * sid3windr yes 1180902453 M * sid3windr but you're raising it, not rising it 1180902457 M * bonbons derjohn: ipv6 built in, xfs, iptables as modules, other box with xfs and ipv6 built in - but that second box (emt64) is scheduled for kernel update tomorrow 1180902472 M * sid3windr it's not possible to rise something/one else 1180902475 M * derjohn sid3windr, hm, yes, makes sense 1180902476 M * bonbons will be checking on x86 later on 1180902478 M * sid3windr you can just rise point ;) 1180902607 M * derjohn bonbons, ok, let me know if you find s.th. thx 1180902753 M * bonbons will do! Do you have all the patches you used in a place where I could fetch them? (links to each of them is fine as well) 1180902828 M * derjohn ah, sure, I forgot to upload my dpatch dir ... do you use dpatch ? 1180902880 M * bonbons I do it manually using good old "patch" 1180902910 J * ahuman ~oem@ool-43557e7c.dyn.optonline.net 1180902959 M * derjohn hm, are you a debian user? It would be easier to send you the dpatch dir (or if have to copy copy the diffs together ... ) 1180902976 M * derjohn well , i go and collect ... 1180903219 M * bonbons no, I'm a Gentoo user 1180904044 M * bonbons derjohn: dpatch looks like compatible to patch (just "garbage" in front of patch, as in patches on lkml), I found http://linux-vserver.derjohn.de/dpatch/dpatch-directory-2.6.20.12-vs2.2.0/ which looks matching 1180904124 M * mjt .dpath files are normal diffs (usually anyway) with a small script added at the top 1180904191 M * bonbons and that one will be ignore by patch anyhow for those applying patches manually 1180904222 M * mjt they aren't limited to diffs really - it can be anything, debian build system executes them instead of calling patch(1) on them. for example, it can be shell/perl/sed/ed/whatever script. But if it's based on diff, the thing at the top just calls patch(1) feeding itself as input 1180904243 M * derjohn bonbons, ah, I would have bet patch will complain about the dpatch header ... 1180904252 M * mjt it wont 1180904258 M * derjohn bonbons, fine ;) 1180904288 J * onox ~onox@kalfjeslab.demon.nl 1180904303 M * bonbons so, all that's some work for tomorrow 1180904309 M * derjohn bonbons, you even find my .config there (as a patch against /dev/null) 1180904321 M * bonbons I saw it 1180904354 M * bonbons and that will be good information as well, in case some config option is triggering the issue 1180904370 M * derjohn bonbons, well, yes, no hurry, I got my kernel running, but I think sooner or later someone will come over the problem, too. There are not that many vserevr v6 users out yet. 1180904489 M * derjohn bonbons, mjt , sid3windr: thx 1180904490 M * bonbons yeah, but even among non-vserver users there are not so many ipv6 users (most ISP's don't offer IPv6) 1180904498 M * derjohn n8 all ! 1180904506 M * sid3windr hehe, I didn't do much 1180904512 M * derjohn bonbons, yes, hopefully that will change .... 1180904524 M * sid3windr bonbons: I guess it depends where you look :] 1180904525 M * derjohn sid3windr, well, dizzing /me :) thx ! 1180904530 M * sid3windr hehe 1180904562 M * mjt fsvo "hopefully" 1180904563 M * bonbons I hope too! When I am talking on an ISP guy I try not to forget to mention IPv6! (push a bit) 1180904585 M * mjt the thing is that ipv6 is much more complex and difficult to deal with 1180904676 M * mjt even simple things like a routing table becomes.. ugh. You can't compare machine words anymore, and store your table in a simple array (for example) of integers. More complex structure is needed, as sizeof(address) >> sizeof(int) 1180904765 M * sid3windr use 128-bit int ;) 1180904790 M * mjt well... 1180904802 M * mjt there are "infrastructure" changes necessary too 1180904812 M * mjt for example, imagine spammers will start using IPv6 1180904825 M * sid3windr they already are! 1180904831 M * mjt there's no DNSBL that supports IPv6 currently 1180904841 M * mjt to protect your servers 1180904849 M * sid3windr dnsbl's don't protect servers anyway 1180904858 M * sid3windr I get spam through ipv6 1180904864 M * sid3windr if a server is an open relay and dualstacked :P 1180904880 M * sid3windr aaanyway. 1180904893 M * sid3windr wether there will be a switch to v6 or not is a 15-year old debate 1180904901 M * mjt it is 1180904907 M * sid3windr we'll see; I'm ready, but my vservers aren't currently :] 1180904913 M * mjt and yes there WILL be such switch.. someday 1180904926 M * mjt but the more far it will be away from here, the better ;) 1180904949 M * mjt maybe at that time we will have 128bit hardware :) 1180904977 M * mjt btw, what's the sizeof(long long) on x86_64? 64bits? 1180905008 M * sid3windr no idea 1180905027 M * mjt i bet it's 64 (or 8 really - for sizeof) 1180905093 J * tuxmania ~bonbons@158.64.110.121 1180905115 M * waldi sizeof long long == sizeof long on linux x86_64 1180905138 M * mjt yup it prints "8" 1180905160 M * mjt (it's not linux really.. but gcc.. whatever, but doesn't matter) 1180905173 M * sid3windr :) 1180905193 M * mjt t.c:3: error: 'long long long' is too long for GCC 1180905197 M * mjt ;) 1180905218 M * waldi there exists a 128 bit datatype for x86 1180905221 M * mjt hmm. i wonder 1180905230 M * mjt yeah - that's that i wondered about :) 1180905238 M * mjt i've seen it somewhere 1180905244 A * mnemoc prefers uint*_t types 1180905255 M * waldi which does not need to exist 1180905274 A * waldi likes sizeof char == sizeof long 1180905277 M * mjt uint*_t aren't good when you need speed 1180905299 M * mjt well.. there are fast_uint*_t too 1180905316 M * mjt int_fast*_t 1180905356 M * waldi please define "need speed" 1180905385 M * mjt sometimes, a cpu can deal with "native" wordsize faster than with smaller integers 1180905402 Q * bonbons Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1180905409 J * Aiken ~james@ppp233-152.lns1.bne4.internode.on.net 1180905443 M * mjt so if you need, say, 16-bit quantities and you declare an array of uint16_t, to be accessed on a hot path, you'd better use native wordsize 1180905458 M * mjt (unless that array is very large ;) 1180905517 M * mjt as far as i remember, intel cpu has this property - accessing 16-bit integers more slowly than 32-bits (unlike amd cpus). But maybe i'm mistaken and it's about something entirely different 1180905557 M * waldi nope. they only have problems with unalligned access 1180906252 J * bonbons ~bonbons@158.64.110.130 1180906272 M * onox what's (un)aligned? 1180906293 N * DoberMann[Flim] DoberMann[ZZZzzz] 1180906435 M * daniel_hozac not on word-size boundaries. 1180906529 Q * tuxmania Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1180906673 Q * bonbons Quit: Leaving 1180907663 J * infowolfe_ ~infowolfe@c-67-164-195-129.hsd1.ut.comcast.net 1180907685 Q * infowolfe_ 1180907738 J * infowolfe_ ~infowolfe@c-67-164-195-129.hsd1.ut.comcast.net 1180907935 Q * dna Quit: Verlassend 1180908048 Q * infowolfe Read error: Operation timed out 1180909613 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl 1180909626 M * Bertl greetings folks! 1180909921 M * meandtheshell Bertl: hi - good to know I am not the only one with funny day/night time understandings :) 1180909944 M * Bertl meandtheshell: if it comforts you :) 1180909961 M * meandtheshell gives hope you know *g* 1180910043 M * Bertl how's going? 1180910069 M * Bertl btw, I always wanted to ask: what 'shell'? 1180910134 M * tokkee Btw. what happened to the plans regarding Linuxtag 2007? 1180910150 A * tokkee expected to see some of you guys in Berlin... ;-) 1180910183 M * Bertl well, I have the perfect excuse, we had our 'Linuxwochen' just at the same time, and I was there ... 1180910197 M * tokkee Ah right. 1180910211 M * tokkee ... which was definitly Linuxtag's fault :-/ 1180910241 M * Bertl well, it was perfect timing for both of them ... 1180910284 M * tokkee Well, the dates for the Linuxwochen were known long before the ones for the Linuxtag. 1180910304 M * Bertl ah, didn't know ... 1180910312 M * tokkee ... afaik. 1180910315 M * meandtheshell Bertl: I am doing very fine! (I am on my sabbatical). shell would be bash :) 1180910367 A * meandtheshell I do enjoy making my schedule as I think is fine without the need to take into account anybody else - also working @home is so damn cool 1180910402 M * Bertl meandtheshell: sounds familiar ... btw, good choice IMHO, regarding shell 1180910414 M * meandtheshell :) 1180910415 M * sid3windr ghost in the shell! 1180910473 Q * nkukard Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1180910568 M * meandtheshell Bertl: yep - im a Debian guy so using bash is quite usual - what's your main distro for private use anyway? I remember you played around with ubuntu some month ago - yes? 1180910577 M * onox ghost in the zshell 1180910610 M * Bertl meandtheshell: ubuntu was a big disappointment ... I'm back with Mandriva (for my personal use) this time 2007.1/2008.0 1180910651 M * meandtheshell I see - yes - ubuntu lacks some packages I consider vital for my personal taste ... 1180910662 M * meandtheshell just my two cents ... 1180910680 M * Bertl yep, same here, 2-3 apps I use on a daily basis are not available there 1180910681 M * meandtheshell ... lacks: compared to DebianGNU/Linux 1180910701 M * meandtheshell right - gnome-multi-terminals if I recall correctly 1180910715 M * Bertl yes, that and nedit for example 1180910733 M * meandtheshell have you ever been with debian? 1180910746 M * meandtheshell Mandriva ever since? 1180910750 M * Bertl yeah, I'm still using debian on most of the more unusual archs 1180910760 M * meandtheshell I see 1180910831 Q * ema Quit: leaving 1180911248 M * onox Bertl: have you tried gentoo? 1180911269 M * Bertl yes, but not really extensively ... 1180911383 M * slack101 when i do vserver-stat what is VSZ and RSS ? 1180911389 M * slack101 usertime == cpu time right ? 1180911411 M * Bertl VSZ is the 'virtual memory size' 1180911424 M * Bertl and RSS is the 'resident set size' 1180911449 M * slack101 i dont get it 1180911456 M * slack101 how much memory they are using ? 1180911469 M * Bertl you know how memory nowadays works? 1180911480 M * slack101 lol 1180911485 M * slack101 well i guess 1180911505 M * Bertl okay, just to clarify, if you do malloc() in C, you don't get RAM :) 1180911542 M * slack101 what do you get ? 1180911564 M * Bertl you get a pointer into some virtual memory, which usually doesn't have a mapping at that time 1180911591 M * slack101 well yea 1180911594 M * Bertl once the data is accessed (read or written to) the virtual memory gets 'mapped' 1180911613 M * Bertl the pages mapped into RAM are called Resident Set Size 1180911663 M * slack101 yea 1180911666 M * slack101 so basically 1180911678 M * slack101 VSZ is what ? 1180911697 M * Bertl the sum over all virtual memory areas allocated in the guest 1180911790 M * slack101 so is the VSZ whats avaliable 1180911792 M * slack101 or whats used ? 1180911812 M * Bertl the amount 'reserved' from processes :) 1180911826 M * slack101 wow 1180911831 M * slack101 so its serving 500 mb 1180911834 M * slack101 reser 1180911853 M * Bertl that is not really much, start java and it 'reserves' 2GB :) 1180911861 M * slack101 lol 1180911869 M * slack101 what if i have memory limited 1180911873 M * slack101 will the process still start 1180911891 M * Bertl depends on the limit, if it is a VM limit, it will get an out of memory 1180911926 M * Bertl if your limit is on RSS, or a physical limit, then it will get OOM killed when it tries to instantiate that memory 1180911940 M * slack101 and RSS is what ? 1180911947 M * slack101 how much is actually being used 1180911950 M * Bertl the pages actually mapped into RAM 1180911962 M * Bertl also summed up over all processes 1180911964 M * slack101 so RSS is what is actually being used right ? 1180911976 M * Bertl kind of 1180911991 M * slack101 i jus want a hard limit on that 1180912000 M * Bertl then set it :) 1180912010 M * slack101 systiem is what ? 1180912013 M * slack101 cpu time ? 1180912017 M * slack101 usertime is what ? 1180912048 M * Bertl you know the 'time' command? 1180912079 M * slack101 welll 1180912085 M * slack101 i have never used it 1180912120 M * Bertl well, do you have some kind of cpu monitor, like top or so? 1180912158 M * slack101 yes 1180912160 M * slack101 top 1180912177 M * slack101 jus whats the difference between user and sys time ? 1180912178 M * Bertl okay, there are line(s) for Cpu(s), which show 1180912202 M * Bertl user (us) and system (sy) besides nice, wait, hwint swint ... 1180912218 M * Bertl the user time is the cpu time spent in userspace 1180912228 M * slack101 ah 1180912229 M * Bertl the system time is the cpu time spent in kernel space 1180912237 M * slack101 i seeee 1180912265 M * slack101 is 1 minute of systime alot for 20 days ? 1180912314 M * Bertl 20*24*60 >> 1 (so I'd say no :) 1180912350 M * Bertl of course, if the guest wasn't doing anything, it might be more than usual :) 1180912357 M * slack101 no 1180912368 M * slack101 i was letting a guy use a vserver on my system 1180912371 M * slack101 server sorry 1180912403 M * slack101 hes using 100 mb RSS 1180912418 M * slack101 damn apache hes running 1180912419 M * slack101 grrrr 1180912420 M * slack101 lol 1180912571 M * slack101 i really want to use this OpenVCP but its using a apache 2 mod re write 1180912616 M * Bertl well, as I said last time, maybe contact the developers and tell/ask them 1180912628 M * slack101 wellll 1180912632 M * Bertl maybe they do not really need that functionality 1180912653 M * slack101 web pages is not something that is usally to dependent on a browser 1180912665 M * slack101 but theres a .htaccess that does something to the .php extension 1180912681 M * slack101 so i think if i concert that too lighttpd equiv it will be good 1180912720 M * slack101 hopefully anyways 1180912732 M * slack101 this would be a realllly nice plus to get to work 1180912812 M * slack101 a few clients would really like that and i would like to use the little admin thing looks pretty nifty 1180913925 Q * shedi Quit: Leaving 1180914468 Q * onox Quit: leaving