1180051218 M * onox /usr/lib64/util-vserver/vserver.functions: line 122: /bin/nice: No such file or directory
1180051247 M * Bertl onox: no coreutils?
1180051261 M * onox is this caused by latest coreutils?
1180051272 M * Bertl maybe .. you tell me?
1180051277 M * onox I read it moved some files around
1180051287 M * Bertl ah, that might explain ...
1180051303 M * Bertl what does 'chich nice' give you?
1180051307 M * Bertl *which
1180051322 M * onox /usr/bin/nice
1180051343 M * Bertl okay, double check with daniel_hozac, but I think rebuilding the tools should fix that
1180051359 M * Bertl i.e. pathes get autodetected on build
1180051506 M * onox Changelog of coreutils-6.7-r1 says: "Move binaries not really needed into /usr"
1180051947 Q * Hollow Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1180052004 Q * phreak`` Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1180053228 M * onox hmm
1180053243 M * onox linux-vserver.org is open source?
1180053251 M * mnemoc ?
1180053264 M * mnemoc linux-vserver.org is a domain
1180053413 M * onox don't you see the mysql errors? :p
1180053509 Q * onox Quit: zzzz
1180053510 Q * bzed Quit: Leaving
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1180055889 M * Bertl seems that Hollow still has (some?) hardware issues ...
1180055967 M * mnemoc *cough*
1180055978 A * mnemoc reserves some blue pills for poor hollow
1180056519 J * infowolfe_ ~infowolfe@c-67-164-195-129.hsd1.ut.comcast.net
1180056880 Q * infowolfe Read error: Operation timed out
1180057447 J * slack101 ~Administr@cpe-71-65-52-127.insight.res.rr.com
1180057450 M * slack101 yooooo
1180057469 J * shedi ~siggi@ftth-237-144.hive.is
1180059655 Q * slack101 Read error: Connection reset by peer
1180060587 M * Bertl k .. off to bed now ... have a good one everyone!
1180060594 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ
1180063033 J * meandtheshell ~markus@85-124-233-10.work.xdsl-line.inode.at
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1180066702 J * New_to_this ~New_to_th@CPE-72-131-63-174.wi.res.rr.com
1180066952 M * New_to_this any one in here have experience with myphpadmin 
1180067108 M * New_to_this anyone here
1180067213 Q * New_to_this Quit: Ciao!
1180068920 M * mattzerah_ does anyone know that linux-vserver.org is throwing a database error - just thought i'de mention it 
1180070184 J * stephan ~stephan@evilhackerdu.de
1180070187 M * stephan hey
1180070247 N * stephan blizz
1180070249 M * blizz vcontext: vc_ctx_create(): File exists
1180070260 M * blizz what does t hat mean? happens when i try to start several vservers
1180070275 M * daniel_hozac that the context you chose already exists.
1180070443 M * blizz hm, now i also know why :-/ thanks
1180072946 J * dna ~naucki@57-239-dsl.kielnet.net
1180074013 J * Hollow ~hollow@styx.xnull.de
1180074415 J * DoberMann_ ~james@AToulouse-156-1-28-167.w81-49.abo.wanadoo.fr
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1180074940 N * DoberMann_ DoberMann
1180075043 J * onox ~onox@kalfjeslab.demon.nl
1180075771 N * DoberMann DoberMann[PullA]
1180076347 J * phreak`` ~phreak``@deimos.barfoo.org
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1180077862 J * DavidS ~david@p57A4A0AA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
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1180078308 Q * Hollow Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1180083534 J * bragon ~bragon@sam.geeknode.org
1180083928 J * lilalinux ~plasma@dslb-084-058-216-220.pools.arcor-ip.net
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1180089305 Q * Bertl_zZ Remote host closed the connection
1180089408 J * Bertl_zZ herbert@IRC.13thfloor.at
1180089597 J * onox ~onox@kalfjeslab.demon.nl
1180089792 M * onox daniel_hozac?
1180091090 Q * Aiken Quit: Leaving
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1180091584 M * daniel_hozac damn.
1180091590 M * daniel_hozac just when i got back ;)
1180093221 J * lilalinux_ ~plasma@dslb-084-058-201-011.pools.arcor-ip.net
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1180094008 J * lilalinux ~plasma@80.69.41.3
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1180094980 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl
1180094989 M * Bertl morning folks!
1180095000 M * daniel_hozac morning Bertl!
1180095019 M * Bertl what happened to Hollow?
1180095039 M * daniel_hozac i'm wondering that too.
1180095051 Q * DavidS Quit: Leaving.
1180095077 J * DavidS ~david@p57a4a0aa.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
1180095206 M * Bertl okay, I just sent him email ... do you have the email address of phreak``?
1180095225 M * Bertl (if so, could you send him an email too?)
1180095296 N * opuk_ opuk
1180095420 M * CHTEKK hollow or phreak @ gentoo.org
1180095456 M * CHTEKK we're all reachable through that ;) they're afaik on the same server wrt IRC bnc, and afaik Hollow was busy working on those servers, moving things, this past week
1180095469 M * CHTEKK so maybe something move-related or the system just went down
1180095483 M * daniel_hozac as did the database server.
1180095514 M * CHTEKK talking about linux-vserver.org infra?
1180095522 M * daniel_hozac yes.
1180095523 M * Bertl yeah, but if you have a closer look at the web page, you will see that the web server needs a few adjustments too :)
1180095618 M * Bertl (like turning off the show error feature of php :)
1180095619 J * Punkie ~punkie@235-105-207-85.bluetone.cz
1180095639 M * sid3windr omg
1180095641 M * Bertl wb Punkie!
1180095651 M * sid3windr Bertl: that traceback is not a php feature :)
1180095659 M * sid3windr *backtrace even
1180095664 M * daniel_hozac indeed.
1180095668 M * sid3windr it's pretty idiotic to show the password :|
1180095680 M * Punkie what means wb?
1180095680 M * sid3windr is this mediawiki feature or php patch or something?
1180095685 M * Bertl sid3windr: tx for mentioning it :)
1180095685 M * sid3windr welcome back
1180095694 M * daniel_hozac mediawiki probably.
1180095695 M * Punkie ah ;)
1180095711 M * sid3windr that's a little silly
1180095713 M * sid3windr heh
1180095718 M * Punkie hello all ;)
1180095729 M * daniel_hozac a little...
1180095788 M * CHTEKK that's one verbose trace... I'm not positive a php app can do that
1180095793 M * CHTEKK is Xdebug installed on the server?
1180095818 M * CHTEKK or nah, looks really like MediaWiki stuff... well, they did their debug feature pretty well :)
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1180100055 J * djpavlik ~djpavlik@195.160.234.1
1180100105 J * jep ~jpduyx@adsl-228-22.dsl.uva.nl
1180100110 M * djpavlik Guys, rpm.hozac.com is down?  8S 
1180100130 M * daniel_hozac sorry.
1180100132 M * jep how would  linux-vserver work with postfix and sockets to connect to dspam ? 
1180100157 M * daniel_hozac i'll be restarting that server as soon as i get there.
1180100187 M * daniel_hozac jep: should be fine.
1180100188 M * djpavlik daniel_hozac, can I get FC5 kernel somewhere else?
1180100200 M * daniel_hozac djpavlik: from the muh.at mirror?
1180100203 M * Bertl looks like the big server down of 2007 :)
1180100206 M * daniel_hozac the repo file shoul already have it.
1180100208 M * daniel_hozac +d
1180100229 M * daniel_hozac (i.e. it should be used if you try to yum install)
1180100324 M * djpavlik thanks!!! I've got it :)
1180100389 M * jep daniel_hozac: tnx, than i focus on other (permission)  problems 
1180100642 M * hallyn Bertl, daniel_hozac: huh, I guess actually I never sent the devpts namespace where I thought I did.  I'll have to resend it next week.  I'll see about getting the semantics Bertl wanted first.
1180100670 P * jep 
1180100721 M * Bertl hallyn: sounds good, tx!
1180100842 Q * djpavlik Quit: Be free
1180101391 M * sid3windr Bertl: don't say such things
1180101399 M * sid3windr I have no servers down at the moment and would like to keep it that way
1180101401 M * sid3windr =)
1180102738 M * waldi root      4186  0.0  0.0   5248  1888 ?        Ds   10:16   0:00 SCREEN
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1180102741 M * waldi hrm
1180102752 M * waldi seems that .21 have some bugs
1180102889 M * Bertl yep :)
1180103126 M * waldi wrong reaper?
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1180103196 J * ema ~ema@rtfm.galliera.it
1180103205 J * zLinux ~zLinux@88.213.13.191
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1180105100 M * sid3windr the reaper is grim
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1180109869 J * phreak`` ~phreak``@deimos.barfoo.org
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1180112063 M * Bertl hey phreak``!
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1180112465 M * phreak`` hey Bertl ;)
1180112470 A * phreak`` pokes hollow
1180112528 M * Bertl it seems he is in munich ...
1180112550 M * phreak`` yeah
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1180115484 N * DoberMann[PullA] DoberMann
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1180117911 P * stefani I'm Parting (the water)
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1180129714 M * Guy- is it possible to bind mount a filesystem of one guest into another and/or into the host?
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1180129805 M * daniel_hozac sure.
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1180130228 M * Guy- how?
1180130239 M * Guy- I mean a filesystem mounted from the fstab of the guest
1180130257 N * DoberMann DoberMann[PullA]
1180130339 M * daniel_hozac well, then no.
1180130345 M * daniel_hozac it's only available in the guest's namespace
1180130609 M * Guy- OK, thanks
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1180131047 M * onox daniel_hozac: are you aware some utilities like nice moved to /usr/bin since coreutils-6.7-r1?
1180131097 M * daniel_hozac yes, you said so.
1180131455 M * sid3windr they're in /usr/bin in my 5.2 too :p
1180131493 M * daniel_hozac it's something which i expect to be entirely distro-dependent
1180131511 M * onox /usr/lib64/util-vserver/vserver.functions: line 122: /bin/nice: No such file or directory
1180131558 M * daniel_hozac and as Bertl said, you just have to recompile the utils to tell them about the new paths.
1180131697 M * onox k
1180132394 M * Guy- is there a particular reason they can't rely on the PATH?
1180132571 M * daniel_hozac yes. that could lead to executing guest binaries on the host.
1180132594 M * Guy- ah
1180132646 M * Guy- but surely only if guest directories are in the PATH?
1180132657 M * daniel_hozac no.
1180132678 M * daniel_hozac relative symlinks could hit the guest
1180132714 M * Guy- can you give an example?
1180132736 M * daniel_hozac if you .. to the / directory, you'll suddenly be in the guest.
1180132773 M * daniel_hozac so if you have /usr/bin/nice as a symlink to ../../bin/nice, you'd be executing /bin/nice on the guest.
1180132776 M * Guy- so, walking upwards with .. doesn't necessarily reach the real root directory, but an absolute path does?
1180132778 M * daniel_hozac s/on/of/
1180132783 M * daniel_hozac yes.
1180132805 M * Guy- I see
1180132847 M * Guy- but, but, if the utility invokes /usr/bin/nice, and that's a relative symlink
1180132861 M * Guy- how is that different from finding the same /usr/bin/nice via the PATH?
1180132871 M * daniel_hozac it's not. that's my point.
1180132896 M * Guy- OK, so the compile procedure takes care of resolving the symlinks...?
1180132898 M * daniel_hozac the utils (should) now have the code necessary to get the real filename.
1180133193 M * onox is there are C function like realpath() or something?
1180133210 M * mnemoc realpath()
1180135504 Q * onox Quit: rebooting to get gnome working