1179619345 Q * Piet_ Quit: Piet_ 1179621344 J * garo ~garo-ircc@d51533A85.access.telenet.be 1179621415 M * garo Since vserver guests use the same kernel it is probably not possible to move guests to a other system (like xen), right ? 1179621535 M * daniel_hozac while they're running? no. 1179621541 J * FireEgl FireEgl@Sebastian.Tcldrop.US 1179621625 M * garo If you run a kernel with vserver patches but don't run any guests, is there a performance loss ? 1179621656 M * Bertl_oO nope, there is also no performance loss if you do run guests Ö= 1179621719 Q * bzed Quit: Leaving 1179622277 Q * gerrit Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1179624319 Q * Blissex Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1179625034 J * gerrit ~gerrit@c-67-160-146-170.hsd1.or.comcast.net 1179625605 Q * gerrit Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1179626394 J * hardwire` ~bip@rdbck-5808.wasilla.mtaonline.net 1179626394 Q * hardwire Read error: Connection reset by peer 1179626587 Q * mnemoc Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1179626924 J * gerrit ~gerrit@c-67-160-146-170.hsd1.or.comcast.net 1179627002 J * mnemoc ~amery@kilo105.server4you.de 1179628475 N * ensc Guest88 1179628485 J * ensc ~irc-ensc@p54b4dfcb.dip.t-dialin.net 1179628589 Q * Guest88 Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1179635143 J * hardwire ~bip@rdbck-7467.palmer.mtaonline.net 1179635525 Q * hardwire` Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1179636740 Q * hardwire Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1179638738 Q * gerrit Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1179639461 J * hardwire ~bip@65-148-223-66.gci.net 1179640271 Q * ahumane Remote host closed the connection 1179640283 J * hardwire` ~bip@rdbck-6313.wasilla.mtaonline.net 1179640330 Q * hardwire Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1179640473 N * hardwire` hardwire 1179642710 J * ktwilight_ ~ktwilight@135.200-66-87.adsl-static.isp.belgacom.be 1179642710 Q * ktwilight Read error: Connection reset by peer 1179645137 J * ebiederm ~eric@ebiederm.dsl.xmission.com 1179645142 Q * ebiederm 1179647490 M * avi bertl ata ko hamud sheze pashut lo yaemeen blatt 1179648270 M * arachnist avi: mógÅ‚byÅ› proszÄ™ używać jakiegoÅ› powszechnie zrozumiaÅ‚ego jÄ™zyka? 1179648379 M * Bertl_oO sure, sure ... off to bed now ... have a good one everyone! 1179648385 N * Bertl_oO Bertl_zZ 1179648485 M * avi arachnist, I dont understand what you wrote man 1179648493 M * avi I dont understand ur language :) 1179649253 Q * badari Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1179649275 J * badari ~badari@bi01p1.co.us.ibm.com 1179649881 M * arachnist avi: well, I politely asked You to use a commonly understandable language (that is, english) 1179649890 M * avi oha ok :)))) 1179649914 M * avi I was just saying in partly hebrew that bretl is so sweet its unbelivable 1179649959 A * FaUl wants to add that latin is commonly understandable to, but i cannot remember that words in latin ;-) 1179649992 M * arachnist FaUl: i doubt that even 20% of people here understand latin 1179650010 M * FaUl yea, i guess 1179650030 M * FaUl aber wenn es um 20% geht, koennen wir auch deutsch sprechen ;-) 1179650057 M * FaUl i think it's likely that 20% of that channel-inhabitants can speak german as well 1179650088 M * arachnist but i can bet that >80% of people here understand english 1179650096 M * FaUl yea 1179650104 M * FaUl thats why we speak english in general ;-) 1179650116 M * avi I know i was just loling as usual my lord :D:D:DD:D 1179650169 J * derjohn2 aj@62.87.82.227 1179650620 J * bonbons ~bonbons@ppp-111-84.adsl.restena.lu 1179650970 Q * zLinux Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1179651301 J * dna ~naucki@148-212-dsl.kielnet.net 1179651478 Q * derjohn2 Quit: Verlassend 1179651981 J * Aiken ~james@ppp244-220.lns2.bne4.internode.on.net 1179652289 J * bzed ~bzed@dslb-084-059-114-008.pools.arcor-ip.net 1179652434 J * tanjix ~tanjix@office.star-hosting.de 1179653606 J * zLinux ~zLinux@88.213.43.14 1179654942 J * yang ~yang@yang.sponsor.oftc.net 1179661217 Q * meandtheshell Quit: Leaving. 1179661816 Q * Aiken Quit: Leaving 1179661855 Q * dna Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1179661869 J * meandtheshell ~markus@85-124-37-99.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at 1179662963 Q * besonen Read error: Connection reset by peer 1179662974 J * besonen ~besonen@dsl-db.pacinfo.com 1179662978 J * dna ~naucki@244-248-dsl.kielnet.net 1179664739 J * pisco ~pisco@p5087C9EC.dip.t-dialin.net 1179665478 Q * pisco Quit: Lost terminal 1179669814 Q * yang Quit: KVIrc 3.2.4 Anomalies http://www.kvirc.net/ 1179672789 M * avi a quick question 1179672791 M * avi anyone here? 1179672804 M * avi how can i bypass the 16 IP address limitation of the vserver? 1179672912 M * daniel_hozac modify your kernel. 1179673077 M * avi where ? 1179673097 M * avi can u give me a hint danny ? 1179673604 M * daniel_hozac include/linux/vserver/network.h:NB_IPV4ROOT 1179673895 J * ebiederm ~eric@ebiederm.dsl.xmission.com 1179674004 P * ebiederm 1179674093 Q * matti Quit: 8-X 1179675533 J * ahuman ~oem@ool-43557e7c.dyn.optonline.net 1179677012 J * Michi ident@p548DE4F1.dip.t-dialin.net 1179677134 J * Guy- 0BsMk0FkLd@chardonnay.math.bme.hu 1179677876 Q * Johnnie Read error: Operation timed out 1179678467 Q * Michi 1179678762 M * mjt wuuuug. Xen-3.1 is out. "Highlights of this release: ... - XML configuration files..." - die, xen. 1179678788 Q * mnemoc Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1179678809 M * mjt i was still considering xen. Not anymore. 1179678902 M * arachnist o_O 1179678999 M * Wonka well, yeah. you only use HTML up to 4.01? 1179679032 M * Wonka Ajax works with XML, too. no google maps for you! 1179679052 M * mjt you're comparing apples and oranges 1179679063 M * Wonka XFT, XKB and stuff are configured with XML files too 1179679071 M * Wonka no modern X11 for you 1179679082 M * mjt xkb? 1179679091 M * Wonka X Keyboard Extensions 1179679100 M * Wonka xmodmap will die out 1179679113 M * mjt Option "XkbRules" "xorg" 1179679114 M * Guy- as far as the end user is concerned, xkb is configured via xorg.conf 1179679117 M * Guy- exactly 1179679117 M * mjt Option "XkbLayout" "us,ru(winkeys)" 1179679120 M * mjt ... 1179679124 M * mjt -- no xml 1179679139 M * mjt and the config files aren't in xml, either 1179679163 M * mjt xft. that sounds similar too 1179679164 M * Wonka and how would you do stuff like 1179679164 M * Wonka and how would you do stuff like keysym Caps_Lock = Multi_key 1179679179 M * mjt s/similar/familiar/ 1179679184 M * Guy- via clickety-click in the gnome gui 1179679190 A * mjt doesn't run gnome 1179679196 M * Guy- these are not important things 1179679214 M * Guy- we don't often have to configure them 1179679226 M * Wonka how often do you have to configure XEN? 1179679241 M * Wonka why don't you configure XEN via clickety-click in the gnome gui? 1179679247 J * mnemoc ~amery@kilo105.server4you.de 1179679257 M * mjt because there's no f*cking place for gui on the server 1179679265 M * mjt it should NOT have any gui 1179679298 M * Guy- I have to configure xen each time I install a new box with xen and each time I install a new domU and each time the settings of a domU have to be changed 1179679306 M * Guy- I'd say, practically daily 1179679323 M * Guy- and this is important, so I wouldn't trust a gui to do it 1179679324 M * Wonka so why not use some web management interface then? 1179679340 M * Guy- there is your answer 1179679350 M * Guy- but I'm sure we don't need XML evangelism 1179679353 M * mjt ol'good config files are easier to deal with 1179679364 M * mjt hmm 1179679368 M * Wonka i don't do XML evangelism. 1179679377 M * Guy- I think I already quoted the saying that XML is like violence. If it doesn't solve your problem, just use more. 1179679378 M * Wonka but i also don't like XML damnation 1179679387 M * Guy- I'm sure XML has its place. 1179679391 M * mjt it is 1179679394 M * Guy- important system configuration is not it. 1179679397 M * mjt s/is/has/ 1179679418 M * mjt well, they even put xml into syslog *protocol* now 1179679423 M * arachnist Wonka: because the gnome ui is well... gnome 1179679461 M * mjt so that one of the core system daemons, running off when /usr isn't mounted yet, has to have full xml support built in. oh well. 1179679489 M * mjt but i'm shutting up now. 1179679494 P * garo 1179679503 M * Guy- actually, syslog does suffer from lack of structure 1179679510 M * Guy- I'm not sure XML is the answer though... 1179680783 J * gerrit ~gerrit@c-67-160-146-170.hsd1.or.comcast.net 1179681379 J * Johnnie ~jdlewis@c-67-163-247-109.hsd1.pa.comcast.net 1179682600 Q * mnemoc Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1179682809 J * mnemoc ~amery@kilo105.server4you.de 1179683069 Q * FloodServ synthon.oftc.net services.oftc.net 1179683293 J * FloodServ services@services.oftc.net 1179683374 Q * FloodServ synthon.oftc.net services.oftc.net 1179684140 M * mjt syslog rfc (forgot to mention) -- RFC3195 it is 1179686488 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl_oO 1179686678 J * tuxmania ~bonbons@ppp-111-128.adsl.restena.lu 1179686993 Q * bonbons Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1179686999 N * tuxmania bonbons 1179687784 J * ktwilight ~ktwilight@217.126-66-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be 1179688193 Q * ktwilight_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1179688259 Q * Vesa_ Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 1.0.7/20050919] 1179689963 J * ema ~ema@rtfm.galliera.it 1179693532 Q * bzed Quit: Leaving 1179693811 Q * bonbons Quit: Leaving 1179694067 J * Aiken ~james@ppp244-220.lns2.bne4.internode.on.net 1179695053 Q * ema Quit: leaving 1179695547 Q * ahuman Quit: Leaving 1179695972 J * Piet hiddenserv@tor.noreply.org 1179698534 Q * dna Quit: Verlassend 1179701276 Q * mcp Read error: Connection reset by peer 1179701288 J * mcp ~hightower@wolk-project.de 1179702238 J * _nkukard ~nkukard@dsl-240-19-208.telkomadsl.co.za 1179704993 J * wibble ~wibble@office.noc.uksolutions.net 1179705418 Q * wibble_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds