1179273793 P * stefani I'm Parting (the water)
1179276606 J * Piet_ hiddenserv@tor.noreply.org
1179276981 Q * Piet Remote host closed the connection
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1179279796 Q * bzed Remote host closed the connection
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1179281947 J * Piet_ hiddenserv@tor.noreply.org
1179282855 N * ensc Guest98
1179282865 J * ensc ~irc-ensc@p54B4FB50.dip.t-dialin.net
1179282975 Q * Guest98 Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1179286744 Q * Adrinael Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1179287304 M * Bertl off to bed now ... have a good one everyone! cya!
1179287311 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ
1179289216 J * fromport ~dth@cpe-75-83-20-11.socal.res.rr.com
1179289297 M * fromport hello: does anybody know what the error "vshelper.init: can not determine xid of vserver 'cache'; returned value was ''" could implicate ?
1179289657 Q * fromport Quit: leaving
1179290226 M * dafrog could ya'all kick in for 900 dollars for me?
1179292017 M * dafrog sadfas
1179292026 M * dafrog woops
1179292033 M * dafrog wrong channel
1179292067 P * dafrog 
1179292776 J * ahumane ~oem@ool-43557e7c.dyn.optonline.net
1179293215 Q * ahuman Ping timeout: 480 seconds
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1179295208 J * dna ~naucki@184-212-dsl.kielnet.net
1179296237 J * dna_ ~naucki@221-218-dsl.kielnet.net
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1179296446 N * dna_ dna
1179296456 J * Mark17 ~Mark@89.248.165.6
1179296662 M * Mark17 is it possible to add ips to a vps from the command line?
1179296692 M * daniel_hozac umm, of course.
1179296862 M * Mark17 i couldn't find it in the faq or documentat56n
1179296885 M * daniel_hozac the flower page describes the format of the configuration.
1179296899 M * daniel_hozac or do you want to add it without stopping the guest?
1179296994 M * Mark17 yes
1179297136 M * Mark17 is that possible?\
1179297302 M * daniel_hozac only if the guest already has at least 2 addresses.
1179297325 M * Mark17 the guest currently has 10 ips, i need to add 6 more
1179297340 M * daniel_hozac in which case naddress --nid <guest> --add --ip <IP>/<prefix> will add it to the context, and then you'll have to add the address to the correct interface as well.
1179297414 M * Mark17 that isn't possible with 1 command?
1179297449 M * daniel_hozac what?
1179297461 M * Mark17 adding it to an interface and adding the ip?
1179297468 M * Mark17 and maybe the net mask
1179297475 M * daniel_hozac well, no, as they are two wildly separate things.
1179297509 M * Mark17 ok
1179297563 M * Mark17 <prefix> is something like 29 or? (i need to add 1 ip)
1179297618 M * daniel_hozac if by 29 you mean 255.255.255.248, then yes.
1179297704 M * Mark17 no i need to add 85.12.26.30 (netmask 255.255.255.0)
1179297870 M * Mark17 bash: naddress: command not found
1179298743 M * daniel_hozac then your utils are too old.
1179298750 M * daniel_hozac 0.30.212 added naddress.
1179298972 J * ktwilight ~ktwilight@214.205-66-87.adsl-static.isp.belgacom.be
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1179301423 Q * cdrx Quit: Leaving
1179301428 J * cdrx ~legoater@cap31-3-82-227-199-249.fbx.proxad.net
1179302786 J * DavidS ~david@p57A4B47F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
1179303544 Q * ensc Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1179304022 J * chand ~chand@212.99.51.254
1179304059 Q * chand 
1179304075 J * chand ~chand@212.99.51.254
1179305036 J * ruskie ruskie@ruskie.user.oftc.net
1179305161 Q * DavidS Quit: Leaving.
1179305349 J * meandtheshell ~markus@85-124-174-215.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at
1179306152 J * bzed ~bzed@dslb-084-059-118-020.pools.arcor-ip.net
1179308202 J * Adrinael adrinael@rid7.kyla.fi
1179310348 J * ensc ~irc-ensc@p54b4fb50.dip.t-dialin.net
1179312264 M * baldy hi there
1179312278 M * baldy anyone know why a perl script is unable to access /dev/null?
1179312296 M * baldy Starting policyd-weight: Can't write to /dev/null: Keine Berechtigung at /usr/sbin/policyd-weight line 886.
1179312334 M * daniel_hozac ls -l /dev/null?
1179312516 M * baldy v6-mail:~# ls -al /dev/null
1179312516 M * baldy -rw-rw-rw- 1 root root 57 2007-05-16 12:43 /dev/null
1179312584 M * baldy strange but works now
1179313407 Q * cdrx Quit: Leaving
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1179314229 J * jordi ~jordi@115.Red-213-96-69.staticIP.rima-tde.net
1179314529 J * BenG ~ben@195.10.248.18
1179314549 M * BenG afternoon all
1179314602 M * BenG thanks to the help of everyone yesterday we now have a whole organisation running from LTSP on a vserver rather than as a standalone
1179314628 M * BenG it took a while
1179314677 M * BenG today I need to finish of an install by letting one of our vserver have access to a DVD writer
1179314697 M * BenG can anyone tell me if there's a standard and fairly secure way of doing this?
1179314788 M * BenG is there anything less all encompassing than RAW_IO for capabilities?
1179314887 Q * Aiken Quit: Leaving
1179315208 J * DavidS ~david@p57A4B47F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
1179315417 N * Piet_ Piet
1179315544 Q * ntrs_ Read error: Connection reset by peer
1179316391 N * DavidS DavidS|de
1179316744 J * kwowt69 ~quote@pomoc.ircnet.com
1179316746 M * kwowt69 Hi
1179316838 M * kwowt69 when i'm trying to run a vserver and i have 2 IPs added for it, the ips dissapear in root server 'ifconfig', then in the guest vps, i just get one ip show up when i type 'ifconfig', the other one not 
1179316840 M * kwowt69 how come?
1179316986 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl
1179316990 M * Bertl morning folks!
1179316996 M * kwowt69 anyone:P?
1179317011 M * Bertl kwowt69: nothing 'disappears'
1179317023 M * kwowt69 well i guess i shouldnt add all the ips to root ifconfig
1179317029 M * kwowt69 but anyway, now i've removed them from root
1179317036 M * kwowt69 and i still dont get the second ip
1179317037 M * Bertl kwowt69: you are using a tool which is kind of obsolted for more than 3 years
1179317042 M * kwowt69 just one
1179317043 M * kwowt69 which tool?
1179317047 M * Bertl ifconfig
1179317055 M * Bertl try with 'ip addr ls'
1179317078 M * kwowt69 bash: ip: command not found:p
1179317084 M * Bertl you will find that all ips are there, both on the host and the guest
1179317095 M * Bertl it is already installed on the host
1179317111 M * Bertl you probably have to install it in the guest if you are using debian :)
1179317119 M * kwowt69 gentoo
1179317123 M * kwowt69 umm
1179317130 M * Bertl that should know better :)
1179317133 M * kwowt69 well ifconfig doesnt show them anyway :p
1179317146 M * Bertl yep, that is correct ...
1179317168 M * Bertl if you want to support the ancient ifconfig tool, you have to use aliases
1179317186 M * kwowt69 u're right
1179317188 M * kwowt69 ips work :p
1179317210 M * Bertl note: that is not Linux-VServer specific, that is mainline :)
1179317269 M * Bertl you can easily use aliases with Linux-VServer too, but that might look a little strange inside a guest
1179317295 M * kwowt69 :)
1179317303 M * Bertl i.e. if you configure a 'name' for your ips, then they will get something like: eth0:<name>
1179317319 M * Bertl on the host, that will look fine with both ifconfig and ip
1179317337 M * Bertl on the guest, you will be missing the eth0, you only get the eth0:name then
1179317345 M * kwowt69 well if the ips work fine, that doesnt matter right
1179317365 M * Bertl correct, that is why it is how it is right now :)
1179317401 M * kwowt69 interesting:p
1179317737 M * kwowt69 hm
1179317738 M * kwowt69 Bertl
1179317744 M * kwowt69 but i cant access the ip from irssi
1179317744 M * kwowt69 13:12 -!- Irssi: Looking up irc.freenet.de
1179317744 M * kwowt69 13:12 -!- Irssi: Unable to connect server irc.freenet.de port 6667 [Temporary
1179317744 M * kwowt69           failure in name resolution]
1179317752 M * kwowt69 i mean, i cant connect
1179317766 M * kwowt69 or can i
1179317767 M * Bertl that is probably related to a bad configuration
1179317769 M * kwowt69 hm
1179317770 M * kwowt69 wait
1179317772 M * kwowt69 nameservers:p
1179317775 M * Bertl I would opt for resolv.conf?
1179317804 M * Bertl did you assign a private or public ip to the guest?
1179317814 M * kwowt69 ok it works
1179317817 M * kwowt69 :)
1179317818 M * Bertl excellent!
1179317820 M * kwowt69 :P
1179317862 M * kwowt69 umm
1179317869 M * kwowt69 when i emerge apache from the vserver guest
1179317875 M * kwowt69 do i use USE flags like on root ?
1179317887 M * kwowt69 cause make.conf on guest server is a bit different
1179317889 M * kwowt69 no use flags in it
1179317927 M * Bertl basically the guest should work like a typical system, but I'm not a gentoo person, so you better ask Hollow or phreak``, they should know :)
1179317936 M * kwowt69 :p
1179317943 M * phreak`` hrm, whats the matter ? 
1179317953 M * phreak`` (me doesn't want to read the scrollback)
1179317958 M * kwowt69 phreak``, USE flags
1179317961 M * kwowt69 when i emerge php and stuff
1179317966 M * kwowt69 do i emerge like on the root server?
1179317973 M * kwowt69 (for guest vserver)
1179318004 M * phreak`` kwowt69: you enter the vserver, and simply emerge it .. *shrug* just need to make sure you enabled all USE-flags you need
1179318013 M * kwowt69 as USE="useflags" emerge package
1179318029 M * kwowt69 you mean use flags, in the root server?
1179318042 M * phreak`` kwowt69: no, in the guest
1179318057 M * kwowt69 so its the same as on a normal server?
1179318061 M * phreak`` kwowt69: and yes, like USE="my use flags" emerge $PKG
1179318063 M * kwowt69 ok
1179318065 M * phreak`` kwowt69: yes
1179318069 M * kwowt69 thanks :p
1179318764 N * Badegonzo [PUPPETS]Gonzo
1179318905 Q * ||Cobra|| Remote host closed the connection
1179319149 J * ||Cobra|| ~cob@pc-csa01.science.uva.nl
1179319878 P * BenG 
1179320768 J * ema ~ema@rtfm.galliera.it
1179321762 M * Bertl okay, off for now ... back later ...
1179321767 N * Bertl Bertl_oO
1179322404 J * hardwire` ~bip@rdbck-5851.wasilla.mtaonline.net
1179322505 Q * hardwire Ping timeout: 480 seconds
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1179322880 Q * Adrinael Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1179323098 J * mcp ~hightower@wolk-project.de
1179323211 J * Adrinael adrinael@rid7.kyla.fi
1179323522 Q * Piet Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1179325001 J * ramon ~ramon@116.Red-88-5-228.staticIP.rima-tde.net
1179325007 M * ramon Hello.
1179325056 M * ramon I have just installed a debian copy in a virtual machine. I was amazed. It was simply great. I typed a command, it began downloading packages, and in a few seconds, I could do vserver machine enter.
1179325103 M * ramon Now I am trying with Redhat enterprise linux clone CentOS. I have read that I have to use "yum" method, and create something in /etc/vservers/.distributions.
1179325118 M * ramon Can you give me some hints? Is it worth the trouble?
1179325341 M * Guy- flamebait alert :)
1179325365 M * ramon ?
1179325395 M * Guy- well, asking whether CentOS was worth the trouble of installing it... :)
1179325395 M * ramon I don't get it.
1179325412 M * ramon I just want to install a CentOS guest.
1179325430 M * Guy- *obviously* anyone in their right minds would reply to that question with a firm and resounding "no way", right? :)
1179325469 M * ramon Well, if one wants to test Collab net software, one must use Centos 4 (or Redhat Enterprise Linux 4).
1179325486 M * ramon Not my choice.
1179325502 M * ramon Always thinking about the same?
1179325531 M * Guy- anyway, sorry, I can't help you there, I never installed an rpm-based guest
1179325783 M * ramon Surprising :-)
1179326109 A * mnemoc doesn't use any software that impose a platform
1179326126 M * mnemoc or hardware
1179326404 M * ramon I don't think Collab imposes it really. It is mostly Java and some python; but I prefer to put it into something that the its installer can cope with. Once I see how it works, I might move it into a better setup.
1179326872 J * ahuman ~oem@ool-43557e7c.dyn.optonline.net
1179326943 M * ramon Wow. It worked. Vserver is more and more amazing. 
1179326951 M * DavidS|de :)
1179328939 M * ramon But it should be posible to mknod inside the guest. The setup of GForge complains because it cannot create /dev/null
1179329522 Q * yang Remote host closed the connection
1179329875 M * DavidS|de ramon: you can mknod from the host or give the guest CAP_MKNOD (see the wiki for specifics) 
1179329925 M * DavidS|de be aware though, that the latter is disabled for a reason: it allows the guest to mknod and access filesystems it normally should not access
1179330522 N * hardwire` hardwire
1179330527 Q * virtuoso Read error: Connection reset by peer
1179330761 J * virtuoso ~s0t0na@80.253.205.251
1179331360 Q * phreak`` Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1179331364 Q * Hollow Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1179331675 J * phreak`` ~phreak``@p548BFA48.dip.t-dialin.net
1179331679 Q * lilalinux Remote host closed the connection
1179331692 Q * phreak`` 
1179331704 J * phreak`` ~phreak``@p548BFA48.dip.t-dialin.net
1179331715 Q * phreak`` 
1179331728 J * phreak`` ~phreak``@p548BFA48.dip.t-dialin.net
1179331908 J * Hollow ~hollow@styx.xnull.de
1179332032 J * lilalinux ~plasma@dslb-084-058-211-125.pools.arcor-ip.net
1179332046 Q * phreak`` Quit: leaving
1179332094 J * phreak`` ~phreak``@deimos.barfoo.org
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1179332266 J * FloodServ services@services.oftc.net
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1179332473 J * bonbons ~bonbons@158.64.111.2
1179332724 Q * chand Quit: chand
1179333515 J * jmcaricand ~kvirc@d90-144-40-151.cust.tele2.fr
1179333555 J * FireEgl FireEgl@4.0.0.0.1.0.0.0.c.d.4.8.0.c.5.0.1.0.0.2.ip6.arpa
1179333569 Q * bonbons Read error: Connection reset by peer
1179333653 J * bonbons ~bonbons@ppp-111-2.adsl.restena.lu
1179333879 J * dna_ ~naucki@49-220-dsl.kielnet.net
1179334094 Q * dna Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1179334230 J * flock- ~alex@65.217.163.245
1179334278 M * flock- hi guys, I'm getting init: /dev/initctl: No such file or directory in my gentoo guest, whats the hack around that?
1179334862 Q * jmcaricand Quit: KVIrc 3.2.4 Anomalies http://www.kvirc.net/
1179335658 N * dna_ dna
1179335993 Q * Mark17 Remote host closed the connection
1179336941 J * dna_ ~naucki@137-244-dsl.kielnet.net
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1179337801 Q * ema Quit: leaving
1179337949 J * SoftIce ~bongo@vc-196-207-45-254.3g.vodacom.co.za
1179337953 M * SoftIce howdie! 
1179337968 M * SoftIce multiple ips supported in a vserver as of yet? or does it still need to be patched?
1179337979 M * waldi yes
1179338029 M * mnemoc SoftIce: you can add many entries you want to etc/vservers/whatever/interfaces/
1179338032 M * SoftIce waldi? do you have a documentation of adding an extra ip ?
1179338039 M * SoftIce oh
1179338057 M * SoftIce mnemoc: and this is as of what version? just want to make sure i'm running the correct stuff
1179338082 M * mnemoc SoftIce: since etc/vservers/*/ exists ,-)
1179338094 M * SoftIce hmmm
1179338095 M * SoftIce oh
1179338097 M * mnemoc brb
1179338099 Q * ktwilight Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1179338101 M * SoftIce wait wait!
1179338107 M * SoftIce :)
1179338128 M * SoftIce ./etc/vservers/vserver_name/interfaces/0/ip ?
1179338133 M * SoftIce and just under the 1 ip add an extra 1?
1179338155 J * onox ~onox@kalfjeslab.demon.nl
1179338166 M * mnemoc ./etc/vservers/vserver_name/interfaces/{1,2,3,4,....}/ip
1179338184 M * mnemoc bbl
1179338192 M * SoftIce ahh so I just create another directory called 1
1179338207 M * SoftIce thank you
1179338432 M * SoftIce errr, does this look correct? http://paste.linux-vserver.org/1858
1179338436 Q * ruskie Read error: Operation timed out
1179338438 M * SoftIce this is an ifconfig inside my vserver
1179338441 M * SoftIce doesn't seem right
1179338448 N * Bertl_oO Bertl
1179338454 M * Bertl greetings!
1179338476 M * SoftIce hey Bertl
1179338477 M * SoftIce :)
1179338500 M * Bertl looks good to me, you assigned the ip three times, with aliases?
1179338522 M * Bertl twice with different networks
1179338532 M * Bertl once with a different ip actually :)
1179338642 M * SoftIce no
1179338651 M * SoftIce the ip is allready assined to the system
1179338676 M * SoftIce then added in the vserver startup script
1179338757 M * SoftIce kia:/etc/vservers/blackhole/interfaces# grep 65.111 * -R
1179338758 M * SoftIce 0/ip:65.111.177.75
1179338758 M * SoftIce 1/ip:65.111.177.76
1179338762 M * SoftIce is that correct?
1179338894 M * Bertl if you do not want the scripts to add them
1179338903 M * Bertl you should add a nodev entry 
1179338953 M * Bertl and you should make sure to use the same prefxi/netmask as on the host
1179339030 Q * lilalinux Remote host closed the connection
1179339040 M * SoftIce i'm not exactly sure what the correct prefix should be *hides*
1179339051 M * SoftIce and yes, i'm disabling the host adding the ips now and allowing the script to take care
1179339056 M * SoftIce care of it even
1179339097 M * SoftIce i just used 24 as the prefix
1179339173 M * Bertl there is a tool called ipcalc
1179339192 M * Bertl you can use that to play around with the prefix/netmask/network stuff
1179339216 M * Bertl the ifconfig you pasted shows /24 and /22
1179339290 M * SoftIce oh thats great
1179339290 M * SoftIce :P
1179339301 M * SoftIce isn't it when in doubt use 24?
1179339320 M * Bertl hmm, no, when in doubt, ask your ip provider :)
1179339345 M * SoftIce heh!
1179340184 M * SoftIce what is more similar of an OS by layout compared with debian, SUSE, Redhat, or Slackware?
1179340560 M * Bertl nothing is like debian, except maybe ubuntu
1179340591 M * Bertl suse and redhat are rpm based, so somewhat similar
1179340603 M * SoftIce ye, not talking with regards to package management
1179340610 M * SoftIce just looking through some security benchmarks
1179340620 M * SoftIce and can only find some for redhat, suse, and rh
1179340627 M * SoftIce err redhat, suse and slackware
1179340815 M * Bertl security benchmarks ... interesting ...
1179340948 M * SoftIce ye, take a look at http://www.cisecurity.org
1179340985 M * SoftIce got some nice features like with regards to fbsd, and changing crypto from md5 for passwords to blowfish, etc
1179341003 J * ema ~ema@rtfm.galliera.it
1179341084 M * sid3windr  < Bertl> nothing is like debian, except maybe ubuntu <- +knoppix,xandros,mepis,countless others ;)
1179341113 M * Bertl sid3windr: nah, knoppix was never that broken :)
1179341139 M * ramon See you.
1179341141 Q * ramon Quit: Leaving
1179341284 M * SoftIce ok, blah! I cannot get 2 IP's to show in vserver
1179341293 M * SoftIce I have copied 0 to 1 and replaced ip with the second ip
1179341302 M * SoftIce I have allready tried to rename the interface to eth1:0
1179341306 M * SoftIce and that doesn't show the ip either
1179341321 M * SoftIce i've also tried to add an IP on a different line in 0/ip
1179341373 M * SoftIce could it have something to do with the prefix?
1179342122 M * Bertl hmm, the last pasting you had showed three ips in the guest?
1179342139 M * Bertl (so why do you think you have troubles with two?)
1179342157 M * SoftIce well it showed 3 because I allready had the ips added in the host
1179342179 M * SoftIce then I just simply added them again in /etc/vservers/name/interfaces/0 & /1
1179342194 M * SoftIce now I removed them out of my startup /etc/network/interfaces and have the vserver script apply them automatically
1179342211 M * SoftIce I get now 1 IP in the vserver the name/interfaces/0 and not 1
1179342239 M * Bertl did you check with ifconfig (outdated tool) or with 'ip addr ls'?
1179342317 M * SoftIce hmf
1179342341 M * SoftIce http://paste.linux-vserver.org/1860
1179342354 M * SoftIce ip addr ls shows what i'm looking for but ifconfig within the vserver doesn't ?
1179342397 M * Bertl that is the same as on any other linux system
1179342410 M * Bertl ifconfig is quite ancient and thus a little ill sighted :)
1179342415 M * SoftIce that ip addr ls is run on the host
1179342448 M * Bertl run it inside the guest .. you'll se what is there and what not
1179342464 M * Bertl (you might need to install it though, distros are quite attached to ifconfig :)
1179342466 M * SoftIce but "ip" doesn't exsist
1179342469 M * SoftIce what package does it depend on
1179342490 M * Bertl it is part of the iproute(2) package
1179342499 M * SoftIce thought so
1179342507 M * SoftIce Bertl 1 last question when using 0/1/2 etc
1179342521 M * SoftIce do you need to specify eth1 eth1:0 eth1:1 or just leave dev as eth1 ?
1179342525 M * SoftIce and let the script deal with it?
1179342566 M * matti :)
1179342722 M * daniel_hozac using eth1:0 for dev won't work.
1179342724 M * sid3windr just leave it
1179342743 M * sid3windr daniel_hozac: aliases can't have secondaries? :)
1179342747 M * SoftIce ok
1179342785 M * daniel_hozac sid3windr: ip's syntax for aliases isn't ip a a <IP> dev ethx:y
1179342807 M * sid3windr it won't take aliases? :)
1179342823 M * daniel_hozac it will, just with the ip a a <IP> dev ethx label ethx:y syntax.
1179342865 M * SoftIce daniel_hozac: hrm
1179342876 M * sid3windr :-)
1179342923 M * SoftIce thats a tongue twister  
1179343345 M * SoftIce bye
1179343347 Q * SoftIce Quit: .
1179344968 M * CHTEKK yo all!
1179345163 M * daniel_hozac hello
1179345237 M * Bertl have to assemble a new machine ... so I might be a little unresponsive in the next 2-3 hours ...
1179345354 J * DavidS ~david@p57A4B677.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
1179345545 Q * DavidS 
1179345556 J * tuxmania ~bonbons@158.64.110.250
1179345754 Q * DavidS|de Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1179345942 Q * bonbons Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1179347180 M * CHTEKK daniel_hozac, Bertl: I was wondering if it's possible to use the scheduler in such a way to completely forbid a vserver to execute stuff on a given processor id? setting values like a fillrate of 0 and insane amounts of mintokens (10000) doesn't seem to work
1179347200 M * daniel_hozac hmm? that should work fine.
1179347227 M * daniel_hozac but if it doesn't, cpusets should work too.
1179347277 M * CHTEKK well but I haven't yet implemented those in VCD :) and can't find good documentation on using them via C code, and not via /proc fs
1179347303 M * daniel_hozac you have to use the cpusetfs.
1179347306 M * CHTEKK also I'm not clear if cpus not in a cpuset are masked for a vserver or not, ie, does he see them from inside at all?
1179347308 M * daniel_hozac that's just the way you do it.
1179347316 M * daniel_hozac yes, he does.
1179347339 M * CHTEKK hrmmm would be more useful if masked cpus aren't seen... iirc there's a patch somewhere for that
1179347349 M * daniel_hozac yep.
1179347352 Q * Guy- Remote host closed the connection
1179347370 M * CHTEKK still, wrt scheduler, see: http://paste.linux-vserver.org/1866 CPUID 3 should from a purely theoretical PoV never be used, but it seems to be
1179347391 M * CHTEKK (taht's the only one I set any limit on, the other CPUs are all defaults, no limit)
1179347460 M * daniel_hozac you still have the idle time values set.
1179347484 M * CHTEKK yeah but it won't use it, there's no I
1179347500 M * CHTEKK I set the idle times to 0/1 too, and when it sets them, it simply seems to disable IDLE time at all then
1179347535 M * CHTEKK or better: VCD doesn't set VXSM_IDLE and those, when fillrate of idletime < 0
1179347557 M * CHTEKK which should effectively disable the Idle feature (else there'd be "RI" written before the bucket specs in /proc)
1179347628 M * daniel_hozac yep.
1179347662 M * daniel_hozac and that guest still gets scheduled on that CPU?
1179347696 M * CHTEKK well according to those proc entires yeah, the first column is usage of time slices of that cpu iirc, right?
1179347706 M * daniel_hozac yep.
1179347716 M * CHTEKK and that increases... if it isn't used I'd assume it to remain stationary or increase by veeery little
1179347720 M * daniel_hozac do you set those values before anything is executed in the guest?
1179347729 M * daniel_hozac okay.
1179347766 M * CHTEKK daniel_hozac, yeah, the values you see at the first cat are when the guest's alraedy started et all, hen I just start cpuhog -n 10 and migrate it to it, and then do the other cats
1179348044 J * bonbons ~bonbons@ppp-111-40.adsl.restena.lu
1179348098 M * CHTEKK any idea if that's normal or some kind of bug? can you reproduce it using util-vserver @ daniel_hozac ?
1179348186 M * daniel_hozac well, it would certainly be a bug.
1179348324 Q * tuxmania Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1179348748 M * CHTEKK Bertl, ^^ bugz maybe :)
1179348882 J * Aiken ~james@121.45.222.137
1179349244 M * daniel_hozac well, seems to a be a bug.
1179349263 M * Hollow scheduler bugs are nasty ;)
1179349358 M * CHTEKK indeed :)
1179349395 M * CHTEKK otoh it's one of the most important/interesting parts of linux-vserver, so having them corrected is imo important (well, as any other bug :P)
1179349405 M * CHTEKK btw hi Hollow 
1179349420 M * Hollow heya.. just a short visit though :)
1179349469 M * daniel_hozac wait, my reproducer missed sched_hard. let me retry.
1179349508 M * daniel_hozac umm, and now i seem to have crashed the test machine.
1179349574 M * daniel_hozac Bertl: could you reset the princeton machine when you get back?
1179349665 M * meandtheshell Hollow: hi - so how does your peppercon card feel?
1179349684 M * meandtheshell (you told me you'll order one for the new server)
1179349845 M * Hollow i didn't
1179349858 J * ktwilight ~ktwilight@214.205-66-87.adsl-static.isp.belgacom.be
1179350270 Q * flock- Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1179350447 M * meandtheshell ah, so no eRIC
1179350451 M * Hollow meandtheshell: anyway, the disk in the other machine is dying ... smartctl reports a lot of pre-fails and it locks on big file transfers .. so i'm slowly migrating stuff to other machines now :/
1179350615 M * meandtheshell Hollow: oh - you're talking about the "new" machine currently ordered at Hetzner - yes?
1179350632 M * Hollow no, the old machine... the new one is working great
1179350639 M * meandtheshell ah - I see 
1179350639 M * Hollow and l-v.org is already migrated
1179350642 Q * dna_ Quit: Verlassend
1179350645 M * meandtheshell k
1179350672 M * Hollow crappy seagate disks.. bah
1179350688 M * meandtheshell so, finally, why no eRIC within the new machine - though you've kind a fond for it
1179350713 A * meandtheshell finds seagate HDD's are great :)
1179350724 M * CHTEKK Hollow, nah, I have some here working now for >3 years 24/7 and they don't fail :)
1179350731 M * Hollow heh .. well, a lot of seagate disks died here.. 
1179350759 M * meandtheshell tell the cleaner not to use the Kaercher on the HDDs 
1179350762 M * CHTEKK ah, it really depends in the end.. I mean, I have a Maxtor of 2001 which still works, and that's like unvelievable
1179350773 M * CHTEKK and another Maxtor died just a month after I bought it
1179350774 M * Hollow yeah, maxtors died here too..
1179350775 M * Hollow :P
1179350792 M * CHTEKK on the big server I'm using WD's
1179350801 M * CHTEKK or Samsungs?
1179350803 M * CHTEKK can't remember
1179350805 M * Hollow on average WD works best here ;)
1179350810 M * CHTEKK Samsuns I think cause they cost less
1179350816 M * CHTEKK yeah, Samsung disks :)
1179350835 M * Hollow in fact all my boxes contain only WD now :)
1179350865 Q * johnb Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1179350872 M * CHTEKK my boxes contain whatever works and if it fails, what I can afford to change with :)
1179350893 M * Hollow heh .. btw, lucid and libvserver should be ok now.. will prepare a release for them first ..
1179350922 M * CHTEKK vcd too, checked everything again and looks good, everything works as expected... only thing is that scheduler oddness but it's not vcd related
1179350953 M * meandtheshell Hollow: tell me why no eRIC? I think especially for kernel folks they quite worth a lot ...
1179350963 M * Hollow ok, will review it during the weekend as i said ..
1179350995 M * Hollow meandtheshell: well, i simply forgot to order it in the first place ..
1179351018 M * Hollow and since the old machine is dying, i was kind of in a hurry to get the new one working
1179351027 A * meandtheshell stares blankly
1179351038 M * meandtheshell 8-]
1179351080 M * Hollow yeah .. ;)
1179351084 A * meandtheshell forgets birthdays and such but would never forget an eRIC
1179351086 M * meandtheshell hehe
1179351090 M * Hollow heh
1179351113 M * CHTEKK Hollow, ok great, I'll review vstatd/vwrappers during the next two days, so on the weekend you can review everything and if all goes well monday/tuesday can see _rc1's for everything, would be really gerat :)
1179351115 M * CHTEKK *great
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1179352401 J * tanjix ~tanjix@office.star-hosting.de
1179353993 M * CHTEKK n8 all
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1179359594 Q * Johnnie Read error: Connection reset by peer