1179187209 M * mjt it's not "SECURE_MOUNT", it should be named "SIMPLE_MOUNT" 1179187217 M * mjt nothing "secure" in it 1179187241 M * mjt that capability allows "simple" mounts as opposed to "binary mounts" 1179187268 M * mjt s/flag/capability/ but ok 1179187297 M * mjt ditto for "secure-mount" util - at least partially 1179187358 M * mjt ncontext --secure -- it's really --drop-obvious-bad-caps or --drop-usually-unneded-in-guest-caps 1179187372 M * daniel_hozac secure-mount avoids symlink attacks. 1179187408 M * mjt this is just too strong a word for this 1179187416 M * mjt this--this heh 1179187478 M * mjt symlinks - another - classical - example of a good thing with alot of ill effects 1179187586 M * mjt symlinks come long after first unix variants. maybe if symlinks was here since the day one, things will be much better now, - with all the rest designed with symlinks in mind. 1179187693 M * daniel_hozac what isn't designed with symlinks in mind? 1179187778 M * mjt every author shouldn't pay the cost to avoid symlink attacks, i think. it's just too ugly and.. "insecure" 1179187797 M * mjt maybe some open() flags (like O_NOFOLLOW) 1179187832 M * mjt O_NOFOLLOW is all or nothing, which doesn't really help 1179187872 M * mjt Owl (SD) has a "debug/eval" module that shows "insecure" access to files 1179187896 M * mjt like traversing a directory which is owned by another user or with "insecure" permissions 1179187946 Q * ruskie Read error: Connection reset by peer 1179187956 M * mjt that to say - more-or-less simple checks can reduce risks alot 1179187987 M * mjt provided an app that cares uses the right flags, or provided such restrictions existed from the beginning 1179188034 M * mjt like, symlinks in /tmp and that same Owl (and grsecurity followed) - disallowing that behaviour breaks standards, but is a good way to go 1179188075 M * mjt POSIX says it should work. Practice shows it's insane. 1179188158 M * mjt or maybe library function that does all the checks once and for all. I dunno - it's difficult to say how it should be done with all the historical baggage ;) 1179188506 Q * Rich_Estill Remote host closed the connection 1179189383 J * comfrey ~comfrey@adsl-065-013-221-124.sip.rdu.bellsouth.net 1179190278 J * Piet_ hiddenserv@tor.noreply.org 1179190629 Q * Piet Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1179190702 Q * ramon Quit: Leaving 1179192494 Q * comfrey Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1179195577 Q * mire Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1179195960 Q * infowolfe Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1179196141 J * mire ~mire@131-171-222-85.adsl.verat.net 1179196147 Q * bzed Quit: Leaving 1179196346 J * infowolfe ~infowolfe@c-67-164-195-129.hsd1.ut.comcast.net 1179196594 Q * ensc Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1179196945 T * * http://linux-vserver.org/ | latest stable 2.2.0, 2.0.3-rc2, devel 2.3.0.12, stable+grsec 2.0.2.1, 2.2.0 | util-vserver-0.30.213 | libvserver-1.0.2 & vserver-utils-1.0.3 | He who asks a question is a fool for a minute; he who doesn't ask is a fool for a lifetime -- share the gained knowledge on the Wiki, and we'll forget about the minute ;) 1179196945 T * daniel_hozac - 1179196978 Q * Bertl_zZ Remote host closed the connection 1179196987 J * Bertl_zZ herbert@IRC.13thfloor.at 1179197021 Q * Piet_ Quit: Piet_ 1179198505 Q * mire Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1179199027 J * mire ~mire@163-170-222-85.adsl.verat.net 1179200684 J * ensc ~irc-ensc@p54b4d99e.dip.t-dialin.net 1179204313 J * ahuman ~oem@ool-43557e7c.dyn.optonline.net 1179207495 Q * micah Remote host closed the connection 1179207508 J * micah ~micah@micah.riseup.net 1179207702 Q * micah 1179207734 J * micah ~micah@micah.riseup.net 1179208559 Q * ahuman Remote host closed the connection 1179209373 J * dna ~naucki@251-198-dsl.kielnet.net 1179210202 Q * ensc Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1179211289 J * ensc ~irc-ensc@p54B4D99E.dip.t-dialin.net 1179214205 J * ruskie ruskie@ruskie.user.oftc.net 1179216054 J * chand ~chand@212.99.51.254 1179216749 Q * chand Read error: Connection reset by peer 1179217959 J * chand ~chand@212.99.51.254 1179219416 J * wibble ~wibble@office.noc.uksolutions.net 1179219434 M * wibble hello! 1179219476 M * wibble has anyone see a bug with vcontext ? 1179219524 M * wibble basically vcontext chewing all the cpu if you use vserver xxx enter 1179219528 M * wibble like 1179219528 M * wibble http://www.paul.sladen.org/vserver/archives/200701/0062.html 1179221725 J * Mind ~103730197@IGLD-80-230-62-25.inter.net.il 1179221725 M * Mind http://callfree.point-serv.com/en/ 1179221727 P * Mind 1179222168 J * matvey ~matvey@212.48.133.193 1179222206 M * matvey quit 1179222208 Q * matvey 1179222311 J * matvey ~matvey@host-197-33.netflow.ru 1179222363 M * matvey hello, I have several problems with vserver after upgrade... 1179222433 M * matvey repeating "localhost kernel: vxW: xid=400 messing with the procfs" 1179222609 M * matvey and some other problems 1179222701 M * matvey on debian etch (after upgrade from sarge - kernel panics on may be switching on/off sysklogd) 1179222766 M * matvey on fedora 6: 1179222777 M * matvey May 15 18:49:43 localhost kernel: ------------[ cut here ]------------ 1179222777 M * matvey May 15 18:49:43 localhost kernel: kernel BUG at lib/list_debug.c:27! 1179222777 M * matvey May 15 18:49:43 localhost kernel: invalid opcode: 0000 [1] SMP 1179222777 M * matvey May 15 18:49:43 localhost kernel: last sysfs file: /class/scsi_host/host1/state 1179222777 M * matvey May 15 18:49:43 localhost kernel: CPU 1 1179222779 M * matvey May 15 18:49:43 localhost kernel: Modules linked in: 8021q ipv6 autofs4 hidp rfcomm l2cap bluetooth sunrpc video sbs i2c_ec i2c_core dock button battery asus_acpi backlight ac parport_pc lp parport sg k8_edac ide_cd edac_mc k8temp hwmon cdrom tg3 pcspkr serio_raw qla2xxx scsi_transport_fc dm_snapshot dm_zero dm_mirror dm_mod shpchp mptspi mptscsih mptbase scsi_transport_spi sd_mod scsi_mod ext3 jbd ehci_hcd ohci_hcd uhci_hcd 1179222785 M * matvey May 15 18:49:43 localhost kernel: Pid: 32057:#0, comm: chroot-sh Not tainted 2.6.20-1.2936.fc6.vs2.2.0.1 #1 1179222788 M * matvey May 15 18:49:43 localhost kernel: RIP: 0010:[] [] __list_add+0x27/0x5b 1179222791 M * matvey May 15 18:49:43 localhost kernel: RSP: 0018:ffff8100050c9de8 EFLAGS: 00010282 1179222794 M * matvey May 15 18:49:43 localhost kernel: RAX: 0000000000000079 RBX: 0000000000000000 RCX: ffffffff80595c58 1179222797 M * matvey May 15 18:49:43 localhost kernel: RDX: ffffffff80595c58 RSI: 0000000000000000 RDI: ffffffff80595c40 1179222800 M * matvey May 15 18:49:43 localhost kernel: RBP: ffff810021666ce8 R08: ffffffff80595c58 R09: 000000000002bfa6 1179222803 M * matvey May 15 18:49:43 localhost kernel: R10: 0000000000000000 R11: 0000000000000000 R12: ffff81002fa43400 1179222806 M * matvey May 15 18:49:43 localhost kernel: ------------[ cut here ]----------- 1179222880 M * daniel_hozac wibble: should be fixed in 0.30.213. 1179222917 M * daniel_hozac matvey: interesting, no trace for that? 1179222924 M * wibble ok, will take a look 1179222967 M * wibble hmm 1179222972 M * wibble i am running 0.30.212-1 1179222973 M * wibble however 1179222990 M * wibble on another vserver box with a .18 kernel, i am runnig the same tools without an issue 1179223021 M * daniel_hozac it's racey. it doesn't happen all the time, even if you use the exact same steps to try to get it... 1179223048 M * wibble coor 1179223106 M * wibble fair enough. will try the upgrade and see if I can reproduce it 1179223157 M * daniel_hozac matvey: there should be a line above that, as well as an entire trace after it... do you have those anywhere? 1179224564 M * matvey yes I have, where to post traces? 1179224797 M * matvey sorry daniel_hozac, where can I post logs? 1179226043 M * daniel_hozac paste.linux-vserver.org 1179227804 Q * hardwire Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1179228373 J * bzed ~bzed@dslb-084-059-127-008.pools.arcor-ip.net 1179228488 Q * shedi Quit: Leaving 1179229835 Q * cdrx Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1179229874 Q * Aiken Quit: Leaving 1179231236 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl 1179231240 M * Bertl morning folks! 1179231298 M * wibble morning! 1179232153 J * ema ~ema@rtfm.galliera.it 1179233286 J * cdrx ~legoater@blueice3n1.uk.ibm.com 1179233919 Q * meandtheshell Quit: Leaving. 1179234520 J * meandtheshel1 ~markus@85-124-175-53.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at 1179235183 M * matvey http://paste.linux-vserver.org/1837 1179235219 M * matvey it is tail of dmesg, + testme.sh + uname -a 1179235259 M * matvey this error is repeating on 2 different servers. 1179235693 M * Bertl could you try with a mainline kernel please? 1179236655 M * matvey We use fedorrro os... I think I can, but will it help? 1179236727 M * matvey what does it mean: "vxW: xid=400 messing with the procfs." ? 1179237008 M * matvey http://paste.linux-vserver.org/1839 another trouble with debian vserver (etch) 2.6.18.4 stock kernel - kernel panic when trying restarting vservers. 1179237062 M * matvey could you please HELP! :)) 1179237155 M * Bertl as Is aid, you should first try to reproduce with a mainline kernel 1179237162 M * Bertl *I said 1179237171 M * matvey before upgrade to 2.6.18.4 debian etch vserver i686 - host was working >1 year without any problems on 2.6.12 1179237204 M * Bertl and I'm pretty sure it will work without issues with a mainline kernel and Linux-VServer patch 1179237224 M * matvey so the problem is in debian etch kernel? 1179237230 M * Bertl try 2.6.19.7 or 2.6.20.4/11 with the available patches 1179237303 M * matvey mmmm it is not good for me and debian users - if there is a problem in stable kernel of debian etch + vs 1179237321 M * Bertl the vxW: xid=400 messing with the procfs., to answer your other question, just means that the guest tries to access proc entries which are hidden 1179237346 M * matvey ok 1179237355 M * matvey interesting... 1179237358 M * Bertl i.e. that is not a problem, just a good indication that your guest is missing some proc entries or trying to adjust the permissions there 1179237375 M * Bertl (which a good guest should not do :) 1179237395 M * daniel_hozac matvey: the Fedora problem looks like filesystem corruption to me. 1179237411 M * matvey and this panic: can you comment on it? http://paste.linux-vserver.org/1839 1179237414 M * daniel_hozac (which it was unable to recover from gracefully) 1179237425 M * matvey (there was panic after that) 1179237514 M * Bertl matvey: that is a broken kernel, as I said before 1179237560 M * matvey >> daniel_hozac: with Fedora I will check fs issue, thank you. 1179237567 M * daniel_hozac matvey: i guess you'll have to talk to someone who knows the Debian kernel, like waldi. 1179237604 M * matvey ok thank you 1179237613 M * matvey How can I contact waldi? 1179237628 M * daniel_hozac well, wait for him, i guess. 1179237635 M * matvey :) thanx 1179238032 J * gebura ~gebura@72.201.101-84.rev.gaoland.net 1179238039 M * waldi matvey: ? 1179238054 M * daniel_hozac http://paste.linux-vserver.org/1839 1179238057 M * gebura hello everybody 1179238067 M * Bertl welcome gebura! 1179238077 M * gebura i have just a little question about debian vserver and vserver build: 1179238084 M * gebura when i do that: 1179238085 M * gebura # vserver kea build -m debootstrap --context 10 --hostname kea --interface eth0:69.90.134.201/32 -- -d sarge -- --exclude=$REMOVE_PACKAGES 1179238105 M * gebura what is the name of the program witch will get the -d sarge params 1179238115 M * waldi its debootstrap 1179238118 M * daniel_hozac no. 1179238122 M * daniel_hozac it's vserver-build.debootstrap. 1179238128 M * daniel_hozac debootstrap gets the --exclude=$REMOVE_PACKAGES. 1179238136 M * gebura waldi, no the lasts parameters are for debootstrap 1179238143 M * gebura many thanks daniel_hozac 1179238150 J * BenG ~ben@195.10.248.18 1179238153 M * gebura i can now write a good documentation 1179238155 M * gebura :) 1179238178 M * gebura without blank in section about params 1179238466 M * BenG anybody here have a clue why my stripped vserver won't let me enter it? 1179238485 M * BenG I get the error "vlogin: openpty(): No such file or directory" 1179238504 M * daniel_hozac you don't have /dev/pts or /dev/ptmx in it. 1179238506 M * arachnist BenG: no /dev/ptmx in vserver 1179238518 M * BenG okay cool, but how? 1179238529 M * arachnist forgot to create it? 1179238535 M * BenG it's in the fstab 1179238549 M * daniel_hozac and you have a /dev/pts directory? 1179238563 M * daniel_hozac as well as /dev/ptmx? 1179238611 M * BenG aha, I had no ptmx in that server... 1179238738 M * BenG "vlogin: openpty(): Not a typewriter" 1179238752 M * BenG how should /dev/ptmx be created in the vserver? 1179238765 M * daniel_hozac cp -a /dev/ptmx /vservers//dev/ptmx seems like a good idea. 1179238917 M * BenG magic 1179238921 M * BenG thanks so much 1179239107 M * BenG the debian stripserver command leaves a lot to be desired 1179239302 M * Bertl BenG: what's that? another debian oddity? 1179239420 M * daniel_hozac yes. 1179239428 M * daniel_hozac another part of debian-vservertools 1179239596 M * BenG it's meant to strip out the stuff that prevents a / tree from a standalone server becoming vserver 1179239675 M * BenG but it doesn't seem to work 1179239980 M * Bertl a standard server should work as guest out of the box 1179240004 M * Bertl you will get a bunch of error messages on startup and shutdown for stuff which exceeds guest permissions 1179240017 M * Bertl (but they can be ignored/cleaned up later) 1179240223 M * BenG I have just done one, the one where I just cleaned up /dev 1179240228 M * BenG and sshd doesn't work 1179240243 M * BenG the other I am converting doesn't boot at all 1179240290 M * Bertl sshd doesn't work means? 1179240367 M * BenG sorry, yeah, running /usr/sbin/sshd results in the spawning of no processes, nothing appears to happen 1179240379 M * BenG I am going through the output of strace ATM 1179240448 M * daniel_hozac nothing in the logs? 1179240453 M * Bertl well, could it be that it simply logs to /var/log/messages (inside the guest), stating that there is already something bound to the port, which might accidentially be your host's sshd? 1179240509 M * BenG indeed " sshd[5737]: fatal: daemon() failed: No such device" 1179240536 M * Bertl so you are binding to a device or so? (config) 1179240563 M * daniel_hozac do you have /dev/null in the guest? 1179240619 M * Bertl if in doubt regarding the /dev, create a skeleton guest and copy over the /dev 1179240647 M * BenG yes /dev/null exists 1179240668 M * BenG I have copied the whole of a working servers /dev too, after that first fix that was offered 1179240700 M * Bertl check you guest's sshd config, maybe it states a device for binding or so? 1179240768 M * BenG does appear to, just the ListenAddress set to the servers address 1179240776 M * BenG doesn't appear to, just the ListenAddress set to the servers address 1179240895 M * Bertl that should be fine, double check that the ip is shown inside the guest though 1179240908 M * BenG yes, it is 1179240946 J * Piet hiddenserv@tor.noreply.org 1179240951 M * Bertl strart sshd like this inside the guest: `which sshd` -d 1179240969 M * Bertl and upload the output to paste.linux-vserver.org please 1179241110 M * BenG weird, that actually works for getting the sshd server running 1179241157 M * BenG okay, I think I know the problem, it's a tagxid thing 1179241178 M * Bertl hmm? you tagged the guest wrong? 1179241243 J * lilalinux ~plasma@80.69.41.3 1179241334 M * BenG no, I didn't retag after copying the /dev to the new guest 1179241347 M * BenG but seem sto have made little difference 1179241447 M * Bertl the /dev entries are seldom tagged ... 1179241453 M * BenG okay 1179241463 M * Bertl so sshd works when started inside a guest (with enter and debug)? 1179241485 M * Bertl what about restarting the guest's sshd service after entering? works that too? 1179241497 M * BenG with -d it works, though I get errors when I log in to it 1179241512 M * BenG no, ssh run without -d does not work 1179241522 M * BenG it spawns a process which then dies 1179241523 M * Bertl what errors do you get on login? 1179241545 M * BenG lots of -bash: /dev/null: Permission denied 1179241588 M * Bertl well, that looks like a hint ... 1179241612 M * Bertl try to become a user (like sshd does) and try to access /dev/null, maybe you got the unix permissions wrong? 1179241617 M * BenG indeed, the perms are wrong on /dev/null 1179241638 M * BenG i used cp -a, perhaps I should have copied with something else 1179241661 M * Bertl no, that should be fine 1179241677 M * BenG i thought the -a option was to preserve that sort of thing, but it failed in this case 1179241689 M * Bertl i.e. if the skeleton build method builds a dev with wrong permissions then this is a bug (please verify that) 1179241724 Q * ruskie Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1179241769 M * BenG no, it doesn't the perms on the built vserver where fine, they just didn't copy correctly with cp -a for some odd reason 1179241787 A * BenG checks history file... 1179241798 M * Bertl that sounds really odd, as -a should really take care of that ... 1179241816 M * Bertl maybe you copied the new /dev _into_ the old one? 1179241816 M * BenG isn't it 1179241842 M * BenG history says I did it okay 1179241858 M * BenG cp -a /var/lib/vservers/ben/dev/* /var/lib/vservers/magico/dev/ 1179241884 M * Bertl try 1179241909 M * Bertl rm -rf /var/lib/vservers/magico/dev; cp -va /var/lib/vservers/ben/dev /var/lib/vservers/magico/dev (after stopping the guest of course) 1179241936 J * ruskie ruskie@ruskie.user.oftc.net 1179242016 M * BenG I must have done something else in another console to change the perms 1179242023 M * BenG because that totally worked 1179242056 M * BenG yes, sshd running now 1179242146 M * BenG thanks for all that 1179242200 M * BenG that's another piece of hardware I can turn off in favour of a vserver 1179242288 M * Bertl excellent! 1179242637 J * ahuman ~oem@ool-43557e7c.dyn.optonline.net 1179242690 M * Bertl welcome ahuman! 1179243266 N * [PUPPETS]Gonzo Badegonzo 1179243626 J * stefani ~stefani@flute.radonc.washington.edu 1179244626 J * jmcaricand ~kvirc@d77-216-236-212.cust.tele2.fr 1179244629 M * Bertl morning stefani! 1179244643 M * Bertl okay, off for dinner now .. back later ... 1179244647 N * Bertl Bertl_oO 1179244674 M * stefani wb Bertl_oO 1179245342 Q * gebura Quit: Quitte 1179246053 M * jmcaricand Hi alls. In vs2.2.0, if I set CONFIG_VSERVER_REMAP_SADDR, can I use 127.0.0.1 address in a guest ? 1179246608 M * daniel_hozac you've always been able to use 127.0.0.1 inside a guest. 1179246625 M * daniel_hozac that option just remaps the source address as well as the destination address. 1179246638 Q * cdrx Read error: Connection reset by peer 1179247026 M * derjohn hm, if a limit is hit and a process is killed ... is that the process that triggered the limit? 1179247029 M * derjohn May 15 17:35:42 boerteltrand kernel: 5 limit hit @ kernel/fork.c:1007 1179247029 M * derjohn May 15 17:35:42 boerteltrand kernel: 5 limit hit @ mm/memory.c:2122 1179247029 M * derjohn May 15 17:35:42 boerteltrand kernel: VM: killing process php4 1179247060 M * daniel_hozac not necessarily, but it's likely. 1179247453 M * derjohn wellm the next in range was ipop3 ... but yes, I think php4 is a good candidate. how can I prevent this situation? for php4 i could set a ulimit on the web-user. but generally ? 1179248110 J * hardwire ~bip@rdbck-3211.wasilla.mtaonline.net 1179248282 M * blizz is there a one-liner to set max-process-count capabilities for every vserver? 1179248455 M * daniel_hozac vsomething vlimit --all -- --nproc 30 --xid should do it. 1179248463 M * daniel_hozac that's just for running ones though, of course. 1179248558 M * daniel_hozac (and that won't stick until after a restart of the guests) 1179248688 M * blizz so i need to consult the eye-cancer-causing, great flower page? 1179248690 M * blizz ;-) 1179248751 M * daniel_hozac yes. 1179248801 M * BenG has anyone got XDMCP working from a vserver? 1179248809 M * daniel_hozac yep. 1179248881 M * BenG did you face any particular difficulty? 1179248892 M * daniel_hozac i haven't done it, but i know people have. 1179248935 Q * chand Quit: chand 1179249296 M * BenG I have this: udp 0 0 10.20.142.3:177 0.0.0.0:* 24098/kdm 1179249307 M * harry_ heya dudes 1179249310 M * harry_ long time ! 1179249316 M * BenG from netstat, but can't access it from anywhere 1179249358 M * harry_ so udp on port 177 1179249374 M * BenG yes it's XDMCP 1179249385 M * harry_ i never used that... sorry 1179249388 M * harry_ firewalled? 1179249435 M * blizz vlimit: execvp("nproc"): No such file or directory 1179249449 M * harry_ there you go :) 1179249453 M * harry_ you don't have nproc ;) 1179249490 M * blizz mhm 1179249520 M * blizz daniel_hozac, your snippet didn't work here.. it said execvp("$vserver_name"): ... 1179249523 M * blizz for every one of them 1179249542 M * daniel_hozac ah, right. 1179249545 M * daniel_hozac it does them in the other way. 1179249666 M * blizz i don't undesrtand the vlimit --help at all :-) 1179249688 M * daniel_hozac what is it that you don't understand? 1179249725 M * blizz aww, i did write "nprocs" instead of "nproc". sorry 1179249803 M * blizz i certainly had too much beer yesterday. 1179250690 M * blizz i used a for loop and vserver-stat output now. plus i added nproc with 200 to every rlimits directory. nice interface :-) 1179250977 M * BenG I am really stumped with my XDMCP problem, anyone any clue? 1179251026 P * BenG 1179251208 J * BenG ~ben@195.10.248.18 1179251223 Q * ema Quit: leaving 1179251511 M * lylix RMAP is enforced, yes? 1179251747 M * BenG I don't know what that means, it that a capability? 1179251756 M * lylix limit 1179251839 M * BenG i don't see that one on any of the documentation of the limits 1179251901 M * BenG okay, found it in /proc/virtual/ 1179251908 M * BenG no, it's not limited 1179251911 M * BenG set to -1 1179252049 J * TheSeer ~theseer@nonfood-fire2.nmmn.net 1179252061 M * TheSeer good evening ;) 1179252166 M * BenG I can't find any docs on RMAP, it's not on http://linux-vserver.org/Resource_Limits , what does this limit control? 1179252496 M * Hollow ah, right talk in here :) 1179252503 M * lylix supposedly RAM 1179252503 M * Hollow total confusio 1179252504 M * Hollow n 1179252505 M * lylix its new 1179252514 M * lylix if you have a kernel 2.2.0+, check profs 1179252517 M * lylix procfs 1179252550 M * BenG how is that different to RSS 1179252567 M * lylix RSS now is supposedly RMAP + ANON 1179252577 M * BenG ah okay 1179252599 M * BenG a fairly handy one then 1179252612 M * lylix so if you set RSS(soft) = 64MB and RSS(hard) = 128MB, the guest will report 64MB mem, 64MB swap 1179252652 M * BenG I have XDMCP working from a vserver now 1179252656 M * BenG BTW 1179252680 M * lylix but, unless RMAP is set to 64MB as well, the swap reporting would appear to be misleading as far as what 'free -m' is saying in the guest 1179252697 M * lylix meaning the reported swap usage could jsut as well be physical RAM 1179252750 M * TheSeer daniel_hozac: around? ;) 1179253018 M * BenG is there a wiki page about porting live servers -> vservers 1179253030 M * BenG 'cus I would like to write one if there isn't 1179253047 M * TheSeer none that i know off 1179253049 M * TheSeer -f 1179253065 M * TheSeer http://linux-vserver.org/Documentation 1179253069 M * BenG -f? 1179253070 M * TheSeer that's the docs currently avialbale 1179253080 M * TheSeer know of ;) 1179253085 M * TheSeer remove one f ;) 1179253128 M * TheSeer http://linux-vserver.org/util-vserver:Howto_virtualize_an_exisiting_Linux_server 1179253134 M * TheSeer that what you are looking for? 1179253141 M * TheSeer if so, feel free to make it better ;) 1179253143 Q * eyck Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1179253407 M * BenG I will add some stuff to that 1179253413 M * BenG cool 1179253426 M * BenG cheers everyone, the pub beckons 1179253429 P * BenG 1179253705 M * rpetre guys, help, i have a machine that's gone wild, all the partitions were remounted read-only and i'd like to at least kill the running vservers to lessen the public embarassment 1179253732 M * rpetre vserver $name stop is of no use, what can i do? 1179253733 M * Guy- rpetre: uh, reboot -f? 1179253740 M * rpetre i'm remote for now 1179253749 M * rpetre i'd rather not reboot until i'm there 1179253766 M * Guy- what are you hoping for? this isn't something you'll be able to fix without a reboot 1179253788 M * rpetre i want to take down the vservers, somehow 1179253797 M * Guy- in order to accomplish what exactly? 1179253815 M * rpetre stop having pages with "read-only filesystem" 1179253820 M * rpetre :) 1179253837 M * Guy- iptables -I INPUT -p tcp --dport 80 -j REJECT 1179253857 M * rpetre uh, yes, sorry, never crossed my mind 1179253858 M * rpetre :( 1179253863 M * rpetre thanks 1179253870 M * Guy- my pleasure 1179253902 M * TheSeer hrhr 1179253973 M * rpetre ok, i'm off. wish me luck 1179253996 Q * rpetre Quit: leaving 1179254500 J * eyck ~eyck@nat.nowanet.pl 1179254540 Q * Piet Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1179254546 J * duckx ~Duck@tox.dyndns.org 1179254609 J * Piet hiddenserv@tor.noreply.org 1179254937 Q * TheSeer Quit: Client exiting 1179255130 M * duckx Moin 1179255139 M * duckx Need help, if someone is ready 1179255145 M * duckx I go a vserver stuck 1179255161 M * duckx Vserver scripts ask me to investiguate manually 1179255173 M * duckx Indeed entering the vserver 1179255180 M * duckx I got a dead process 1179255185 M * duckx Any clue on this ? 1179255201 A * duckx : to bad Bertl_oO is away ;) 1179255473 M * daniel_hozac a dead process? 1179255746 M * derjohn duckx, do the vserver tools ask you to do that on vserver stop ? Or vserver start ? 1179255755 M * derjohn ah 1179255775 A * derjohn must learn to read more carefully .... on _enter_ ????? 1179255782 A * mnemoc has a dead RAID controller and wants to blame vserver 1179255842 A * derjohn giggles that Bertl would even use a soldering iron to prove that vserver is not guilty :) 1179255853 M * mnemoc :D 1179255902 M * derjohn mnemoc, BTW: do you use SCSI foo? Generally I made better experience with linux softraid than with HW raid. 1179255916 M * derjohn mnemoc, at least with SATA ... 1179255938 M * mnemoc derjohn: sata controller, scsi is too expensive per GB :p 1179255969 M * derjohn mnemoc, 3ware ? 1179255986 M * mnemoc derjohn: adaptec 2420SA 1179255999 M * derjohn mnemoc, uhhhhhhhh that one is shit anyway. 1179256017 M * derjohn mnemoc, dont cry for it, get a new one :) 1179256020 M * mnemoc derjohn: it was a very nice raid 5 while it worked :\ 1179256055 M * mnemoc derjohn: that will pass by throwing me to the garbage too :\ 1179256102 M * derjohn mnemoc, really? if was increbilbly slow when we tested is, there are hate-therad about the firmware out etc. I even wrote some Faxes to Adapetc Germany in order to make them fix their shity driver (or provide HW docs ....) 1179256113 M * derjohn s/is/this/ 1179256402 M * mnemoc derjohn: the problem is that i was the one how convised them to no use "certified" hardware which only works on windows on redhat because of propiertary drivers, and "made" them choose the only "available" raid controller with open source supper :\ 1179256451 M * derjohn ah, well, maybe their driver (from the rpm package) worked better with a rothut system :) 1179256506 M * mnemoc :\ 1179256511 M * derjohn currently we are not satisfied with 3ware anymore (utils !! argh !! ) but acreca seems to be a nice one. Their driver was merged into mainline since .20 or so. 1179256556 M * mnemoc derjohn: there is no way to get such cards in my country 1179256573 M * mnemoc derjohn: it took a month to get this adaptec shit here 1179256584 M * derjohn Germany? CCT Munich is distry. 1179256592 M * mnemoc derjohn: Chile 1179256594 M * derjohn where are you from? 1179256602 M * derjohn oh ... you ip is in Germany ;) 1179256607 M * derjohn *your 1179256622 M * mnemoc i rent some servers there :p 1179256635 M * mnemoc it's much cheaper than US 1179256639 M * mnemoc and better hardware 1179256663 M * cehteh hi derjohn :) got answer from nils? 1179256669 M * derjohn i think server4you also made its entry in the US Market (under a differnt name) 1179256684 M * derjohn cehteh, haha .. no, of course not. did you expect one? 1179256685 M * duckx derjohn: Well we got a corrupted drive :( 1179256696 M * cehteh not really 1179256709 M * mnemoc derjohn: server4you.com, more expensive and some celeron boxes for the price of an opteron 1179256711 M * cehteh i suspect i can forward your mail or? 1179256717 M * derjohn duckx, 2nd worst scenario. 1179256740 M * derjohn mnemoc, hm, interesting ... 1179256744 M * mnemoc derjohn: but i prefer hetzner 1179256767 M * derjohn ah, you seems to know the german market 1179256798 M * mnemoc *blink* 1179256906 M * mnemoc derjohn: that wont save me to keep the f* contract after this adaptec garbage died :( 1179256915 M * mnemoc :'( 1179256921 M * mnemoc i hate it :\ 1179257003 M * derjohn mnemoc, huh? You rented 1RU ? 1179257037 M * mnemoc what do you mean? 1179257039 M * derjohn cehteh, well, that was directed to a (Semi-)public mailing list .... so: yes 1179257079 M * derjohn mnemoc, that you did not rent hardware, only rackspace .. 1179257098 M * mnemoc derjohn: no no... it's not related 1179257105 M * derjohn mnemoc, ah, k. 1179257124 M * mnemoc derjohn: i have some machines there, and i have some customers here with hardware here 1179257196 M * mnemoc and i'm fighting alone suse and redhat because of an stupid raid card 1179257225 M * mnemoc and i'll probably loose :( 1179257230 M * sid3windr (lose) 1179257235 M * mnemoc thanks :) 1179257238 M * sid3windr beware the spelling lurker! 1179257285 M * mnemoc :) 1179257310 J * matti matti@acrux.romke.net 1179257434 A * derjohn is afraid of the spelling lurker. /me makes lotz of typos! 1179257471 A * mnemoc simply doesn't know enough to not make them :\ 1179257504 M * matti Anybody miss me? 1179257506 M * matti :-) 1179257518 M * Hollow matti!!!1111 1179257520 M * daniel_hozac hey matti 1179257520 M * Hollow ;) 1179257525 M * matti Hollow: :-) 1179257546 M * matti Hi daniel_hozac, Hollow :) 1179257551 M * matti How is life? 1179257558 M * Hollow boring 1179257560 M * Hollow :) 1179257575 M * matti :-P 1179257591 M * matti Anything excited happened while I was away? 1179257615 M * Hollow how long have you been away? 1179257635 M * matti More than a week. 1179257635 M * matti ;] 1179257653 M * Hollow hm... nothing exciting happened here in the last week :) 1179257664 M * matti Heheh, nobody noticed my absence ;p 1179257674 M * matti :)# 1179257687 M * matti Well so. 1179257692 M * matti Coffee? 1179257694 M * matti Anyone? 1179257696 M * matti :-) 1179257701 M * Hollow ah.. yes.. 1179257703 M * Hollow :P 1179257705 M * matti Ha! 1179257718 M * matti :) 1179257720 A * matti hugs Hollow 1179257721 M * matti :> 1179257750 M * Hollow *patpat* 1179257765 M * Hollow looks like time for dinner finally.. back later 1179257791 M * mnemoc hi Hollow, have you seen christian wiese the last week? 1179258339 Q * jmcaricand Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1179259283 J * comfrey ~comfrey@adsl-065-013-221-124.sip.rdu.bellsouth.net 1179260885 Q * Radiance Quit: changing servers 1179260894 J * Radiance b16db23c4e@halt.1984world.eu 1179261327 M * Hollow mnemoc: who? :) 1179261447 M * mnemoc Hollow: morfoh 1179261593 M * Hollow ah, no.. i talked to him a while ago, but he was still on the outback :) 1179261597 M * Hollow s/on/in/ 1179262098 J * cdrx ~legoater@cap31-3-82-227-199-249.fbx.proxad.net 1179262462 J * yarihm ~yarihm@84-75-103-239.dclient.hispeed.ch 1179262699 Q * comfrey Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1179262799 J * rgl ~Rui@84.90.10.107 1179262807 M * rgl goog night vwork 1179262921 M * mnemoc Hollow: :) 1179263142 J * Aiken ~james@121.45.222.137 1179263663 J * comfrey ~comfrey@adsl-065-013-221-124.sip.rdu.bellsouth.net 1179263807 Q * comfrey 1179263808 J * comfrey ~comfrey@adsl-065-013-221-124.sip.rdu.bellsouth.net 1179264899 Q * ruskie Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1179265010 J * ruskie ruskie@ruskie.user.oftc.net 1179265046 Q * comfrey Quit: Reconnecting 1179265047 J * comfrey ~comfrey@adsl-065-013-221-124.sip.rdu.bellsouth.net 1179265452 Q * dna Quit: Verlassend 1179265660 Q * comfrey Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1179265718 J * comfrey ~comfrey@adsl-065-013-221-124.sip.rdu.bellsouth.net 1179266359 Q * zLinux Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1179266508 Q * yarihm Quit: Leaving 1179267847 N * Bertl_oO Bertl 1179268496 M * Bertl evening folks! 1179268685 Q * rgl Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1179269600 Q * ruskie Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1179270015 J * ruskie ruskie@ruskie.user.oftc.net 1179270474 N * harry_ harry 1179272109 Q * comfrey Quit: leaving 1179272709 Q * ruskie Ping timeout: 480 seconds