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1178505699 J * DoberMann_ ~james@AToulouse-156-1-60-101.w90-16.abo.wanadoo.fr
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1178508174 M * micah daniel_hozac: i'm putting together a package for 0.30.213 and am trying to sort out this vhashify on sparc problem that was fixed with syscall_shiny14e.h. It looks like you updated sys_personality.h and sys_clone.h, but I'm trying to determine if I should still compile with --disable-alternative-syscalls for sparc, or if its been all resolved
1178508620 M * Bertl hey micah! LTNS!
1178508647 M * micah hey Bertl!
1178508671 M * micah yeah, my work keeps me below water :(
1178509513 J * Johnnie ~jdlewis@c-67-163-247-109.hsd1.pa.comcast.net
1178509826 M * Bertl okay, off to bed now .. have a good one everyone!
1178509831 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ
1178509839 M * micah daniel_hozac: nevermind, looks like you've got syscall_shiny17 -- so it should be fixed :)
1178509844 M * micah goodnight Bertl_zZ!
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1178514297 J * BobR_oO_ odie@IRC.13thfloor.at
1178514297 J * Adrinael_ adrinael@rid7.kyla.fi
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1178514299 J * PowerKe_ ~tom@d54C13E4B.access.telenet.be
1178514312 J * baldy_ ~baldy@pptp.dial.ipv6-network.de
1178514314 J * fosco_ fosco@konoha.devnullteam.org
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1178514321 J * sladen_ paul@starsky.19inch.net
1178514326 N * Guest111 weasel
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1178514591 J * lilalinux ~plasma@80.69.41.3
1178514591 J * ||Cobra|| ~cob@pc-csa01.science.uva.nl
1178514591 J * zLinux ~zLinux@88.213.63.82
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1178514591 J * waldi ~waldi@bblank.thinkmo.de
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1178522598 M * borgfish moin
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1178524480 J * tudenbart ~willi@xdsl-213-196-248-18.netcologne.de
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1178525729 J * chand ~chand@212.99.51.254
1178527051 N * PowerKe_ PowerKe
1178528022 J * rgl ~Rui@84.90.10.107
1178528024 M * rgl hi
1178528048 M * rgl can I enable SELinux in vserver?
1178528158 J * ktwilight ~ktwilight@165.212-66-87.adsl-static.isp.belgacom.be
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1178528847 N * baldy_ Baldy
1178529128 J * yarihm ~yarihm@whitehead2.nine.ch
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1178532205 M * daniel_hozac rgl: hmm?
1178532491 M * rgl daniel_hozac, I mean.  Can I use SELinux in a vserver kernel?
1178532499 M * daniel_hozac sure.
1178532519 M * rgl no patch needed like grsec?
1178532586 M * daniel_hozac as SELinux is in mainline, no.
1178532639 M * rgl ah okay. :D
1178532664 M * rgl you known if grsec will go into mainline?
1178532701 M * daniel_hozac no idea.
1178532733 M * rgl alright :D
1178532747 M * rgl you use SELinux or grsec?
1178532771 M * daniel_hozac no.
1178533155 M * b0n :))
1178533158 M * b0n why do you need that?
1178533164 M * b0n running shellbox for users?
1178533491 M * rgl no, I'm running webserver for users.   and it can mess with the system when their scrips are fubar.
1178534460 M * b0n php?
1178534495 M * b0n you also make use of pax?
1178535036 N * pyquila_ pyquila
1178535173 J * Piet hiddenserv@tor.noreply.org
1178535385 J * gerrit ~gerrit@c-67-160-146-170.hsd1.or.comcast.net
1178536159 M * click rgl: i run vservers with grsec- for webhosting i would advice you to use suphp instead, as that runs scripts as the user itself, not as the webserver-user
1178536210 M * click grsec can be considered as hardening for console mainly, not ftp/dav-enabled webhosts with suPHP installed
1178536243 M * rgl b0n, I'm not using anything yet.
1178536258 M * rgl click, I see.  thx for the tip. :D
1178536288 M * click which distro are you using on the vservers?
1178536358 M * rgl centos (because of plesk);  and ubuntu.
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1178536406 M * click centos for the vserver host, and ubuntu on the guest-os'es?
1178539047 M * neuralis rgl: grsec isn't going to go into mainline for any foreseeable future.
1178539087 M * rgl click, host.
1178539100 M * rgl click, oh well, and guest too.
1178539108 M * rgl neuralis, I see.  thx.
1178539138 M * rgl neuralis, humm, any particular reason why?
1178539238 M * neuralis you can read up on it all over the place.
1178539281 M * click grsec is a secondary, not endorsed patch, but has several usable fields
1178539288 M * rgl like, where?  google for "grsec integration"?
1178539465 M * click hardening in a different way than SELinux, RBAC-style access control ++
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1178540094 J * Piet_ hiddenserv@tor.noreply.org
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1178540397 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl
1178540402 M * Bertl morning folks!
1178540411 M * blizz moin moin bertl
1178540827 Q * dna Read error: Connection reset by peer
1178540838 J * rgl_ ~Rui@84.90.10.107
1178540841 J * dna ~naucki@92-231-dsl.kielnet.net
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1178542125 J * cruser ~chatzilla@72.242.194.162
1178542336 M * cruser Hi. I am getting two repeating kernel messages in my vserver host.
1178542339 M * cruser  kernel: vxW: xid=4 messing with the procfs.
1178542352 M * cruser kernel: <B7><B7><B7> mapping device: 08800002 target: 08800002 flags: 00
1178542354 M * cruser 02 mode: 2000 mapped=0
1178542381 M * cruser Can anyone clue me in?
1178542454 M * daniel_hozac cruser: the first means the guest with xid 4 is trying to do something to procfs.
1178542474 M * daniel_hozac the second is a guest trying to access a device node.
1178542503 M * cruser daniel_hozac: Okay. Should I worry about it?
1178542526 M * daniel_hozac not really.
1178542554 M * cruser Makes the log file big.
1178542608 M * daniel_hozac you should only get the latter once per guest.
1178542624 J * Grazvydas ~Grazvydas@88.119.22.153
1178542649 J * Carsgt ~te@88.119.96.138
1178542661 Q * Carsgt 
1178542674 Q * Grazvydas autokilled: This host violated network policy. If you feel an error has been made, please contact support@oftc.net, thanks. (2007-05-07 12:57:54)
1178542947 M * cruser daniel_hozac: I got about 60 ("messing with the procfs") for each of two guests in one day. Is that okay?
1178543074 M * blizz how to "mess" with the procfs?
1178543222 M * cruser blizz: " kernel: vxW: xid=4 messing with the procfs" was logged on a vserver host.
1178543266 J * ml ~penguin@83-65-34-34.arsenal.xdsl-line.inode.at
1178543298 N * ml ml|lunch
1178543527 M * cruser daniel_hozac: That kernel I compiled on Friday did not run. 
1178543725 M * daniel_hozac cruser: yeah, i saw that. could you send an email about it to lkml?
1178543861 M * daniel_hozac cruser: why are your guests trying to mess with procfs?
1178543870 M * cruser Alright. What do I send? 
1178543935 M * daniel_hozac i guess the .config from your kernel, a cat /proc/cpuinfo and maybe a cat /proc/meminfo, and a note about the problem (i.e. box reboots when using a non-default memory split and HIGHMEM)
1178544006 Q * yarihm Quit: This computer has gone to sleep
1178544100 M * cruser daniel_hozac: I can send that but I do not feel qualified to answer any querys about it.
1178544518 M * Bertl okay, moving out ... back later ...
1178544523 N * Bertl Bertl_oO
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1178545084 J * DavidS ~david@85.125.165.34
1178545205 J * Piet_ hiddenserv@tor.noreply.org
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1178546423 M * daniel_hozac cruser: well, it's just a problem report. i'm not any more qualified than you ;)
1178546967 J * dafrog kevin@tinfoilhat.net
1178547354 M * cruser daniel_hazac: Okay. If you say so. Posting to the geekest mailing list in Linuxdom ...I just think twice.
1178547740 Q * rgl_ Quit: Leaving
1178548120 M * dafrog i'm not sure where to go on this
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1178548529 J * sepp_ ~|Rogue@port-212-202-192-125.dynamic.qsc.de
1178548532 M * sepp_ hi
1178548558 N * ml|lunch ml
1178548566 M * sepp_ can anyone help me with a startup problem with a vserver which has been upgraded to debian etch
1178548574 M * sepp_ ?
1178548576 Q * FloodServ charon.oftc.net services.oftc.net
1178548598 M * sepp_ the startup now is sort of stuck in the rc script
1178548598 M * derjohn sepp_, ?
1178548605 M * sepp_ yes?
1178548611 M * derjohn what is the problem?
1178548657 M * derjohn which version was it before? which utils version? and now ? sarge -> etch ?
1178548667 M * sepp_ yes sarge -> etch
1178548672 M * sepp_ host ist still sarge
1178548680 M * sepp_ only guest was upgraded 
1178548715 M * sepp_ util-vserver-0.30.210
1178548789 M * sepp_ wenn you enter the vserver you will see the following processes
1178548792 M * sepp_ /bin/sh /etc/init.d/rc S
1178548796 M * sepp_ sh /etc/rcS.d/S10checkroot.sh start
1178548799 M * sepp_ reboot -f
1178548813 M * sepp_ and a few more plus 2 time init boot
1178548817 M * sepp_ times
1178548905 M * sepp_ any ideas?
1178548931 M * derjohn well, .210 is quite old now. You do a reboot -f works ?
1178548967 M * sepp_ i will update my utils
1178549077 J * yarihm ~yarihm@84-75-103-239.dclient.hispeed.ch
1178549156 M * daniel_hozac i doubt that will change anything.
1178549161 M * daniel_hozac sounds like your guest is broken.
1178549183 M * sepp_ could
1178549184 M * sepp_ be
1178549200 M * sepp_ i tried a dist-upgrade maybe something failed
1178549270 M * sepp_ now it is even stranger
1178549303 M * sepp_ it starts then all services are running and afterwards it restarts again and so on
1178549327 M * daniel_hozac so you have to figure out what's causing the restart.
1178549340 M * sepp_ yes i think so
1178549374 M * sepp_ but i don't think this is going to be and easy task ..
1178549380 M * sepp_ anyway thanks so far
1178549503 J * FloodServ services@services.oftc.net
1178549657 M * Baldy Bertl_oO: arround?
1178549714 Q * FloodServ synthon.oftc.net services.oftc.net
1178549721 M * Baldy any1 an idea when i install the same vps again it shows me wrong disk usgae
1178549734 M * Baldy first install it shows me 200Mb round about
1178549740 M * Baldy when i reinstall it
1178549744 M * Baldy it shows me 400gb
1178549747 M * Baldy erm
1178549748 M * Baldy mb
1178549749 M * Baldy and so on
1178549762 M * derjohn sepp_, vserver --debug foo start might help
1178549775 M * Baldy it calculate the disk usage
1178549802 M * sepp_ i'll try that thx
1178549825 M * derjohn sepp_, but it will only help if anything break while starting ... :/
1178550296 M * sepp_ well the problem seems to be inside the guest
1178550299 M * sepp_ :/
1178550926 M * Baldy any1 know how can i enbale quota insite a vps?
1178550931 M * Baldy inside
1178551093 Q * sepp_ Quit: ... lost
1178551200 J * FloodServ services@services.oftc.net
1178551365 M * PowerKe Baldy: how do you check diskspace?
1178551405 M * PowerKe You're not counting old files in the hashed files directory?
1178551555 J * stefani ~stefani@flute.radonc.washington.edu
1178551670 M * Baldy PowerKe: via tagxid
1178551674 M * Baldy but it seems fixed now
1178551688 M * Baldy it seems that it was a config error in my vps
1178552115 M * daniel_hozac Baldy: what?
1178552775 Q * Piet_ Remote host closed the connection
1178552796 M * Baldy daniel_hozac: fotget everyrhink
1178552799 M * Baldy its fixed
1178552877 J * Piet_ hiddenserv@tor.noreply.org
1178553725 N * DoberMann DoberMann[PullA]
1178554023 M * cruser daniel_hozac: Sorry I did not see your "cruser: why are your guests trying to mess with procfs?" question. I do not know why my quests are messing with procfs. How can I find out?
1178554419 J * marcfiu ~mef@aegis.CS.Princeton.EDU
1178554669 M * marcfiu hello
1178554786 M * marcfiu Can anyone tell me what the units are for vlimit when specifying RSS min, soft, hard values?
1178554851 J * bonbons ~bonbons@ppp-110-195.adsl.restena.lu
1178554886 M * marcfiu are those in bytes or in 1024-byte increments?
1178555042 M * doener in pages IIRC
1178555152 M * doener yup, pages. http://linux-vserver.org/Memory_Limits
1178555174 M * Bertl_oO hmm, IIRC, we recently changed that to kbyte :)
1178555193 M * Bertl_oO but maybe only for devel, not sure
1178555201 M * doener then someone recently forgot to update that page *g*
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1178555285 M * Bertl_oO should be easy to check ... 
1178555313 M * Bertl_oO maybe we just changed it for the native interfaces (syscall)
1178555383 M * Bertl_oO I'm still trying to work through my todo pile from the one month vacation :)
1178556009 Q * gerrit Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1178556370 M * marcfiu Bertl_oO: is there a specific spot to check in the kernel code to see whether it is 1KB or 4KB (on x86)?
1178556411 Q * FireEgl Read error: Connection reset by peer
1178556473 M * Bertl_oO marcfiu: the vserver proc files?
1178556615 M * Bertl_oO http://www.13thfloor.at/vserver/s_rel26/v2.2.0/split-2.6.20.4-vs2.2.0/37_procinit.diff.hl
1178556652 M * Bertl_oO looks like it is the 'native' unit which is pages
1178556747 M * marcfiu hi Bertl_oO, it appears to be using 4KB increments (pages) in vs2.0.3-rc1.
1178556753 M * marcfiu That's what we have deployed
1178556762 M * marcfiu We will be switching soon...
1178556776 M * Bertl_oO yep, same is true for 2.2.x (as I just said)
1178556777 M * marcfiu Sapan is making great progress with eliminating VNET.
1178556783 M * Bertl_oO excellent!
1178556796 M * marcfiu He's doing it first for our vs2.0.x based production systems.
1178556831 M * marcfiu When this works, we'll likely just make the leap from 2.6.12-vs2.0.x to 2.6.19-vs2.2.x.
1178556864 M * marcfiu Any recommendation on how I might test that setting RSS MIN does what one might expect?
1178556870 M * Bertl_oO so be it, he just should be careful about _not_ using the xid but instead using the nid
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1178557096 M * Bertl_oO marcfiu: what aspects would you like to test?
1178557153 M * marcfiu ensuring that a vserver which consumes less than RSS MIN stays in memory even when there is overall memory pressure
1178557190 M * marcfiu e.g., vserver A = 100MB RSS MIN, vserver B,C...,Z all go nuts with allocating memory.
1178557195 M * Bertl_oO hmm, as this is not really enforced (and it probably would not make sense either) this is hard to test :)
1178557243 M * Bertl_oO but it would not be too hard to use the over limit for swapping decisions too
1178557243 M * marcfiu what do you mean?
1178557264 M * Bertl_oO I mean: -ENOIMPL
1178557269 M * marcfiu doesn't setting RSS MIN reserve a certain amount of memory for a vserver?
1178557297 M * Bertl_oO no, it just sets a memory/swap dividing limit
1178557307 M * Bertl_oO and it adds to the badness for OOM killings
1178557324 M * Bertl_oO (in recent patches)
1178557330 M * marcfiu what does "memory/swap" dividing limit mean?
1178557357 M * Bertl_oO if you do meminfo/free inside a guest, you want to see RAM and SWAP
1178557390 M * Bertl_oO the soft limit for RSS is used to control the point where RAM becomes SWAP
1178557406 M * Bertl_oO the min RSS values are not implemented at all (yet)
1178557429 M * marcfiu oh
1178557438 M * marcfiu so while one can set the value, it doesn't actually do anything?!
1178557446 M * marcfiu hence -ENOIMPL
1178557460 M * Bertl_oO actually it should not be possible to set the value (with 2.2.x)
1178557469 M * marcfiu I'm using vs2.0.x
1178557486 M * Bertl_oO that was more permissivie with unimplemented values :)
1178557753 M * marcfiu well, I misread the column output from vlimit...
1178557762 M * marcfiu it looks like it only lets one specify RSS HARD limits
1178557768 M * marcfiu Others are ignored
1178557781 M * marcfiu Specifically, SOFT RSS limit does not seem to register.
1178557785 M * marcfiu At least in vs2.0.x
1178557796 M * Bertl_oO I doubt that, but maybe ...
1178557803 M * marcfiu You doubt what?
1178557821 M * Bertl_oO I'm at the run right now, we have a meeting in a few minutes (residential community stuff ... boring :)
1178557833 M * Bertl_oO I doubt that it has no effect in 2.0.2
1178557841 M * marcfiu RSS SOFT?
1178557856 M * Bertl_oO yep
1178557896 M * Bertl_oO ah, no, we used vm/rss to split
1178557909 M * marcfiu what does that mean?
1178557910 M * Bertl_oO so, you are probably right and rss soft does nothing in 2.0.x
1178557942 M * Bertl_oO that the VM/AS had the same purpose than the RSS hard/soft has now
1178557953 M * Bertl_oO okay, off now .. back in a few hours ...
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1178558861 M * brcc_ Bertl
1178558900 M * brcc_ rmap.hard would limit rmap?
1178559266 M * brcc_ How can i limit rmap?
1178560194 J * sharkjaw ~gab@216-211-89.0503.adsl.tele2.no
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1178561402 J * gerrit ~gerrit@bi01p2.co.us.ibm.com
1178561664 J * Paul_UK ~foo@cpc1-acto7-0-0-cust402.brnt.cable.ntl.com
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1178564874 J * Lex ~22@217.148.52.203
1178564930 M * Lex удаленная Работа в Интернете!!!быстрый абсолютно легальный и гарантированый заработок всего за 1,5-2 часа в день не выходя из дома
1178564931 M * Lex подробности тут:: http://www.stroyanch.boom.ru
1178564960 J * er ~yakker@aegis.CS.Princeton.EDU
1178565005 M * trippeh Huh?
1178565022 M * neuralis trippeh: koi-8, probably.
1178565196 M * Paul_UK hey, been reading the wiki, but wouldnt mind some clarification, could vserver be used as a clustered loadbalancer?
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1178565343 P * Lex 
1178565490 J * DavidS ~david@85.125.165.34
1178565630 J * FloodServ services@services.oftc.net
1178568219 J * dothebart ~willi@xdsl-213-196-248-118.netcologne.de
1178568368 M * daniel_hozac Paul_UK: how do you mean?
1178568398 M * daniel_hozac (and load balancer sounds more like Linux Virtual Server...)
1178568432 M * sid3windr indeedio
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1178568461 J * stefani ~stefani@tsipoor.banerian.org
1178568536 Q * sladen Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1178568654 M * daniel_hozac ensc: ping
1178568673 M * ensc daniel_hozac: pong
1178568679 Q * tudenbart Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1178568682 M * daniel_hozac ensc: hey, just wanted to make sure you had seen 0.30.213.
1178568699 M * daniel_hozac ensc: and to ask you if you can setup savannah somehow so that i receive notice of new bug reports?
1178568703 M * ensc yes; but had no time yet to update the package
1178568709 M * ensc ok ; I will see...
1178568724 M * daniel_hozac okay, thanks.
1178568764 J * sladen paul@starsky.19inch.net
1178569003 P * Paul_UK 
1178569718 J * chs_ ~chs@e179194024.adsl.alicedsl.de
1178569832 M * chs_ hi, i have several guest running on a machine with private IPs  in different subnets, but they can reach each other
1178569848 M * chs_ is that normal? I thought there should be an isolation?
1178569855 M * daniel_hozac it is.
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1178569867 M * daniel_hozac all local traffic will use the loopback interface, as it does on a normal Linux box.
1178569899 M * chs_ but they have no loopback device
1178569905 M * daniel_hozac the host does.
1178569915 M * daniel_hozac and all the networking happens on the host.
1178569923 M * chs_ ok i see
1178569946 M * chs_ and second question, the broadcast is everytime set to 0.0.0.0
1178569962 M * chs_ tryed different prefixes but it changed nothing
1178569967 M * daniel_hozac where?
1178569973 M * chs_ in the guests
1178569980 M * daniel_hozac yes, but where in the guests?
1178569996 M * chs_ when setting up with newserver or changing it manually in the interfaces file
1178570002 M * daniel_hozac i.e. what do you do to get a broadcast of 0.0.0.0?
1178570032 M * chs_ i had a 192.168.0.0 with /24 or /32 testet
1178570038 M * chs_ but no changes
1178570118 M * chs_ am i the only one with that problem?
1178570192 M * daniel_hozac i don't even know what the problem is yet.
1178570200 M * daniel_hozac _how_ do you get that? _where_ do you get that?
1178570232 M * chs_ the problem is that i have always the incorrect broadcast adress in my guests
1178570256 Q * FloodServ synthon.oftc.net services.oftc.net
1178570258 M * chs_ i tryed several prefixes, but the broadcast is everytime 0.0.0.0 in the guest
1178570273 M * daniel_hozac but _WHERE_.
1178570285 M * daniel_hozac "in the guest" means nothing.
1178570289 M * chs_ inside the guest 
1178570310 M * daniel_hozac ifconfig? ip a? /etc/network/interfaces? what?
1178570314 M * chs_ when calling ifconfig
1178570341 M * daniel_hozac so ifconfig shows a wrong broadcast address? okay, that's progress.
1178570357 M * daniel_hozac what does ip a have to say?
1178570417 M * chs_ inet Adresse:192.168.1.1  Bcast:0.0.0.0  Maske:255.255.255.255
1178570455 M * chs_ like this, should normaly be 192.168.1.255
1178570460 M * sid3windr did you set mask to 32?
1178570460 M * daniel_hozac well, is that so unexpected? what would you expect the broadcast address to be in a /32 net?
1178570482 M * chs_ yes but i have testet 24 and 32
1178570488 M * daniel_hozac well, that's a /32.
1178570494 M * chs_ buts it was always 0.0.0.0
1178570501 M * daniel_hozac works for me.
1178570513 M * daniel_hozac show me one where it's /24 and the broadcast is wrong.
1178570526 A * sid3windr has a /25 :)
1178570538 M * chs_ or maybe its so cause the hoszt system has a 32 prefix?
1178570538 M * daniel_hozac okay okay, anything other than /32 ;)
1178570575 M * daniel_hozac they are separate addresses. they do not influence eachother.
1178570597 J * FloodServ services@services.oftc.net
1178570857 M * chs_ strange
1178570861 M * chs_ inet Adresse:192.168.2.1  Bcast:192.168.2.255  Maske:255.255.255.0
1178570871 M * chs_ now its working, dont know why
1178570876 M * daniel_hozac there you go.
1178570884 M * chs_ have testet it before several times with 24
1178570898 M * daniel_hozac probably not by first stopping the guest and then changing it.
1178570901 M * chs_ ok thanks for the help and sorry for the troubles
1178570911 M * daniel_hozac you're welcome!
1178570920 M * chs_ nope i stoped it before
1178570924 M * chs_ well nevermind :)
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1178572458 M * brcc_ Daniel hozac, is it possible to limit rmap as we do with rss (on rss.hard)?
1178572478 M * daniel_hozac brcc_: i don't think there's a limit implemented for rmap, but i could be wrong.
1178572638 M * brcc_ I talked a lot with berl about the new account on vs2.2. I wish i could have the new behavior back ( i discussed the details with him). So he told me to alter 2 lines on limit.c .. Those limits are related to tehd siplay of the free command. But i also need to use rmap limits bsides rss
1178572648 M * brcc_ I am downloading Old stable and are going to patch 2.6.17.13
1178572657 M * brcc_ I see this as the only solution to have the old behavior :(
1178573002 M * daniel_hozac probably better to go with 2.6.18 or 2.6.16.
1178573010 M * daniel_hozac (i guess 2.6.16 would be best)
1178573143 M * brcc_ Why not 2.6.17 ?
1178573168 M * brcc_ Why not 2.6.17.13 ?
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1178574271 J * bzed ~bzed@dslb-084-059-125-008.pools.arcor-ip.net
1178574322 M * daniel_hozac because 2.6.17 has an older vserver version as well as more known security vulnerabilities.
1178574378 M * brcc_ Isnt 2.6.16 even older ?
1178574403 M * daniel_hozac 2.6.16 is still maintained.
1178574411 M * daniel_hozac and we did a backport a while back.
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1178574471 M * brcc_ Hmm i just remembered that < 2.6.20.1 is uncompatible with my chipset
1178574477 J * bzed ~bzed@dslb-084-059-125-008.pools.arcor-ip.net
1178574488 M * daniel_hozac 2.6.20.1 even? not 2.6.20?
1178574504 M * brcc_ I havent tried 2.6.20
1178574551 M * brcc_ I am going to try vs2.0.3-rc1 again 2.6.20
1178574557 M * brcc_ What do you think
1178574564 M * daniel_hozac uh, that's not going to work at all.
1178574565 M * mjt which hardware it is, btw?
1178574573 J * FireEgl FireEgl@Sebastian.Tcldrop.Com
1178574584 M * daniel_hozac we didn't stop 2.0 at 2.6.18 for no reason, you know.
1178574650 M * sid3windr ORLY
1178574676 M * brcc_ intel 965ssck, starting o 2.6.18 it detects SATA but only 2 ports. I need the four ports (raid 5 with 3 disks)
1178574688 M * brcc_ Starting on 2.6.20.1(maybe 2.6.20) it detects the 4 sata ports
1178574748 M * brcc_ Now i dont know what to do. can go on with older kernels
1178574785 M * brcc_ If i could set a hard limit for rmap on vs2.2 i would have a nice workaround
1178574799 M * daniel_hozac not sure what the point would be though.
1178574804 M * daniel_hozac you realize rmap is just mapped files, right?
1178574810 M * brcc_ Hm
1178574815 M * daniel_hozac memory allocated by programs doesn't count towards rmap.
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1178574830 M * brcc_ What i see in proc/virtual/xid/limits at RMAP is what i used to see as RSS on vs2.0, right ?
1178574847 J * bzed ~bzed@dslb-084-059-125-008.pools.arcor-ip.net
1178574851 M * daniel_hozac IIRC, yes.
1178574906 M * brcc_ The old behavior(vs2.0) was working great in my opinion, when compared to the new behavior (vs2.2)
1178574926 M * brcc_ If 40 apache proccess are fired in a 128MB guest on vs2.2 we rech memory limit
1178574932 M * brcc_ while in vs2.0 we could have more than 100
1178574937 M * brcc_ on a real machine we can have more than 100
1178574942 M * brcc_ on openvz we can have mroe than 100
1178574956 M * brcc_ I am not sure, but it seems that there is something wrong on this new accouting
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1178575015 M * daniel_hozac perhaps. but the old accounting is quite broken.
1178575109 M * daniel_hozac i.e. it doesn't actually limit the amount of RAM applications can allocate, just how much they can map from files.
1178575126 M * brcc_ Got it
1178575144 M * daniel_hozac so personally, i don't really find it interesting for memory limits.
1178575173 M * brcc_ Would you have any solution on how to work this out on a production? I am starting to think about increasing RSS (new rss - vs2.2) limit until everything is 100%
1178575185 M * brcc_ s/production/production server
1178575274 M * daniel_hozac what happened to just running it unlimited for a while during normal operations and adding a safety margin?
1178575687 M * brcc_ As a workaround i am thinking about increasing RSS so it would have a value new the  old(vs2.0) RSS+ANON
1178575702 M * brcc_ comparing with our active guests on other servers running vs2.0
1178575733 J * FireEgl FireEgl@FireEgl.CJB.Net
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1178581745 M * cehteh is there a easy oneliner how i can boostrap a gentoo vserver on a debian host?
1178581785 M * Bertl_oO if you get the stage3 .tar, yes
1178581830 M * cehteh ah ok .. i have absolutely no clue about gentoo .. just read the wiki and seen that there was some location about stage3 mentioned .. didnt know that you can get a tarball
1178581846 M * cehteh this helps ... i try to figure it out, thanks
1178581974 M * Bertl_oO best google for gentoo, guest install
1178582018 M * cehteh no problem figuring it out :)
1178582052 M * cehteh just need a gentoo to reproduce a bug and i need to know which version the guy has