1177891629 Q * meandtheshel1 Quit: Leaving. 1177894604 J * tudenbart ~willi@xdsl-213-196-251-215.netcologne.de 1177895044 Q * dothebart Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1177897009 Q * fatgoose_ Quit: fatgoose_ 1177900096 P * newz2000 1177900392 Q * ensc Killed (NickServ (GHOST command used by ensc_)) 1177900402 J * ensc ~irc-ensc@p54B4CFC4.dip.t-dialin.net 1177901918 J * johnb ~johnb@ge0.fw0.Athens.oh.us.splicednetworks.net 1177902484 J * ktwilight ~ktwilight@121.117-66-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be 1177902893 Q * ktwilight_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1177903030 Q * mattzerah Remote host closed the connection 1177903039 J * mattzerah ~matt@121.50.222.55 1177908964 Q * baldy Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1177909875 J * baldy ~baldy@pptp.dial.ipv6-network.de 1177910734 Q * baldy Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1177910741 J * baldy ~baldy@pptp.dial.ipv6-network.de 1177911836 J * dna ~naucki@116-206-dsl.kielnet.net 1177912926 Q * dna Quit: Verlassend 1177913049 Q * tzafrir_laptop Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1177914212 J * derjohn2 ~aj@e180194244.adsl.alicedsl.de 1177915691 N * DoberMann[ZZZzzz] DoberMann[PullA] 1177917024 Q * derjohn2 Remote host closed the connection 1177917102 Q * FireEgl Read error: No route to host 1177917315 N * DoberMann[PullA] DoberMann 1177917820 M * sid3windr hmz, keep getting http://magic.powersource.cx/~tom/softlock.txt looping on console on a 2.6.20.7-vs2.2.0 box... 1177918843 J * ema ~ema@rtfm.galliera.it 1177919127 J * lilalinux_ ~plasma@dslb-084-058-231-033.pools.arcor-ip.net 1177919526 Q * lilalinux__ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1177919959 Q * DoberMann Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1177920121 Q * nou Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1177920601 J * DoberMann ~james@AToulouse-156-1-177-126.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr 1177920943 J * boci^ ~boci@pool-6597.adsl.interware.hu 1177922498 J * nou Chaton@causse.larzac.fr.eu.org 1177924683 M * mattzerah hey guys - can someone tell me what the vprocunhide script actually does ? 1177924718 M * mattzerah i have a basic idea, i just would like to confirm and get a better knowledge of whats happening 1177924779 M * arachnist sets a speciall attrib to some files under /proc that are required by the vserver to make them visable 1177924800 M * mattzerah okay - so does that need to be done on every boot, or is it permanent ? 1177924865 M * arachnist every boot 1177924892 M * mattzerah okay, so that explains the /etc/init.d/vprocunhide :) 1177924897 M * mattzerah thankyou arachnist 1177924929 M * mattzerah do you know how to start the vservers automatically on boot (or a subset of them anyway ?) 1177925260 M * mattzerah thankyou arachnist, but i have to go for the moment - i'll be back in an hour if you have a chance to reply :) 1177925311 J * FireEgl Proteus@Sebastian.Atlantica.IRCNut.Com 1177925712 J * pmenier ~pme@LNeuilly-152-22-72-5.w193-251.abo.wanadoo.fr 1177925731 M * pmenier hello 1177929431 J * meandtheshell ~markus@85-124-38-133.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at 1177930429 J * Thorsten ~Thorsten@dslb-084-058-167-160.pools.arcor-ip.net 1177930544 M * Thorsten Hi, since I recently upgraded from Debian Sarge to Debian Etch I somtime have vcontext processes which consume 100% cpu forever. For example: 1177930548 M * Thorsten PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S PU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND 1177930548 M * Thorsten 6442 root 25 0 120 40 28 R 98.0 0.0 68:41.11 vcontext 1177930558 M * Thorsten Anyone ever seen that? 1177930989 M * waldi which architecture? 1177930997 M * waldi which kernel? 1177930997 M * Thorsten i368 1177931016 M * Thorsten Linux server 2.6.19.7-g0bb32142-dirty #1 Mon Apr 9 17:43:08 CEST 2007 i686 GNU/Linux 1177931347 M * Thorsten Sorry, I have to go. I'll ask again this evening or whenever I find the time for it. Thanks for now 1177931651 J * ramon ~ramon___@217.Red-80-36-104.staticIP.rima-tde.net 1177931673 M * ramon Hello. 1177931698 M * ramon How can I use vnamespace to mount something inside a vm? 1177931721 M * ramon I want to mount at runtime a host directory inside a VM. 1177931831 M * ramon ping 1177931874 Q * Thorsten Remote host closed the connection 1177932373 M * harry pong 1177932410 M * harry ramon: you want to mount inside a vm, then you need to add caps to the vm 1177932421 M * harry or... you use vnamespace on the host itself (more secure) 1177932421 M * ramon No. 1177932426 M * ramon Exactly. 1177932442 M * ramon I want to mount in the host for the vm. 1177932457 M * harry vnamespace -e mount bleh 1177932466 M * harry and you're golden 1177932558 M * mattzerah may i ask what vnamespace is used for - is it a filsystem namespace command (i'm reading the help file now...) 1177932599 M * harry the way i see it, it executes on the host in the name of the context (guest) 1177932640 M * mattzerah ahhhh 1177932643 M * mattzerah okay :) 1177932663 M * mattzerah sorry, i'm on a steep learning curve, so i'm going to be asking some questions to get my head around some things 1177932670 M * mattzerah its kind of like sudo for contexts, yea ? 1177933054 M * harry please do :) 1177933066 M * harry mattzerah: you could say that 1177933121 M * mattzerah cool :) 1177933151 M * mattzerah one other question i would like to findout (havn't found it in the docs yet) is how to start a subset of vservers on boot 1177933159 M * harry but wait for daniel_hozac, Bertl_oO etc... to confirm :) 1177933162 M * mattzerah could you perhaps point me in the correct direction ? 1177933169 M * harry yes i could :) 1177933182 M * mattzerah but ... ? 1177933183 M * mattzerah hehehe 1177933197 M * harry http://linux-vserver.org/Frequently_Asked_Questions#How_do_I_make_a_vserver_guest_start_by_default.3F 1177933205 M * harry i had to look for the url :) 1177933213 M * mattzerah oh, the obvious page, hehe 1177933227 M * mattzerah sorry, probably should have read that more carefully 1177933236 M * harry we all learn 1177933244 M * harry don't bother :) 1177933252 M * harry if you don't know what to look for, it's hard to find 1177933268 M * harry but check out the qs on the faq... there are a lot of answers there :) 1177933330 M * mattzerah fantastic :) 1177933358 M * mattzerah thankyou harry - i'm slowly adding this stuff to the wiki (well, i've only added the centos install page at the moment) 1177933452 M * harry way to go 1177933460 M * harry the more knowledge, the better we get! :) 1177933464 M * mattzerah absolutly 1177933483 M * mattzerah i've looked at the project about 5 times over the past 3 years - each time i kind of get stuck, or too busy with other things 1177933484 J * Piet hiddenserv@tor.noreply.org 1177933507 M * mattzerah so i figure if i get stuck into it now, perhaps i'll get the system setup the way i want 1177933524 M * mattzerah i've almost got a working guest X setup too - so i'll document that when i get the steps finalised :) 1177933730 M * harry i've got a pretty neat setupof vm's here :) 1177933738 M * mattzerah yea ? 1177933739 M * harry (if i say so myself... ;) 1177933740 M * harry but... 1177933743 M * mattzerah hehe 1177933756 M * harry first time for 0xc1effb 1177933767 M * harry (being 0xf00d+0xc0ffee) 1177933777 M * mattzerah very cool, hhaha 1177933796 M * mattzerah i'm gonig to head to bed now though 1177933801 M * mattzerah but thankyou for your insights :) 1177935053 Q * FaUl Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1177935075 M * ramon Hello. 1177935089 M * ramon Sorry, I had to leave. 1177935111 M * ramon My question about namespaces is, I want to bind mount a host drive inside the vm. 1177935139 M * ramon vnamespace -e xid mount -t none -o bind,ro host_dir vm_dir does not work. 1177935164 M * harry how did you check? 1177935199 M * ramon harry: are you asking me? 1177935229 M * harry yes 1177935312 M * ramon vnamespace -e devel cat /proc/mounts works perfectly, and displays the vm mounts. (devel is the name of the vm). 1177935336 M * harry is devel your numerical value between 1 and 415xx ? 1177935352 M * harry ah 1177935407 M * ramon But, vnamespace -e devel mount -o bind,ro /etc /etc (I want to see host /etc inside the vm) 1177935419 M * ramon No error, but /etc is still empty inside the vm. 1177935442 M * ramon (This is an example. For security reasons I rather prefer not to see host's /etc in the vm). 1177935449 M * harry :) 1177935487 M * harry maybe try mounting it inside the guest then... vnamespace -e devel mount -o bind,ro /etc /vservers/devel/etc 1177935505 M * ramon That is forbidden for security reasons. 1177935516 M * ramon By Vserver in default setup. 1177935544 M * ramon Wait. Let me see. 1177935621 M * ramon I got it. 1177935637 M * ramon Yes, more or less what you suggested. 1177935660 M * ramon vnamespace -e devel mount -o bind,ro host_dir vm_dir_as_seen_in_host 1177935706 M * ramon I thought that vnamespace would force mount work in the sort-of-chrooted context of the vm. This is fortunately, not the cae. 1177935720 M * ramon There is a minor bug, but you might want to take note of it. 1177935760 M * harry well... how would you do that... 1177935775 M * ramon By the way, is your name Rik Bobbaers ? 1177935778 M * harry yes 1177935787 M * harry why? 1177935813 M * ramon To include your name in the document I am writting here at work. 1177935849 M * ramon Just saying "I'm grateful to Rik Bobbaers and Daniel Hokka Zakrisson for support of VServer" 1177935868 M * harry i don't see what's strange about that mount command... the system is mounting where you want it... it would make it "not logical" to have 2 mount options in a different "root" 1177935872 M * harry hehe... 1177935885 M * harry don't forget Bertl_oO then... he's the main krenel develloper :) 1177935900 M * harry the "founding father" as they say :p 1177935937 M * ramon Sorry for the misunderstanding. I did not explain yet the minor bug. 1177935966 M * ramon The bug is that after mounting "vnamespace -e devel mount -o bind,ro /etc /etc" by mistake, then I cannot undo it. 1177935982 M * ramon "vnamespace -e devel umount /bind" -> device or resource busy. 1177935994 M * ramon "vnamespace -e devel umount /etc" -> device or resource busy. 1177936000 M * harry and he's correct... 1177936000 M * harry and he's co;) 1177936006 M * harry hmm... 1177936018 M * harry it's true what he says... 1177936021 M * harry damn... lag here... 1177936032 M * ramon It is true outside the vnamespace, but not inside. 1177936061 M * harry true, but it's still in use by processes... 1177936083 M * ramon The umount would not affect any process, because they are out of the namespace. 1177936115 M * ramon It is a somewhat cosmetic bug, but a bug anyway. 1177936120 M * harry well... we'll see what daniel_hozac says about it... 1177936130 M * harry maybe there's a reason 1177936135 M * harry i don't know the tools that well :) 1177936144 M * harry i just do vserver + grsec patch merging :) 1177936159 M * ramon Perhaps I should fill a bug report. 1177936186 M * harry you could do that :) 1177936260 M * ramon What is the right place? 1177936383 M * harry daniel_hozac ;) 1177936392 M * harry daniel_hozac@linux-vserver.org i think 1177936572 M * ramon Thanks. 1177936825 M * ramon I have sent him a horrible HTML mail. 1177937076 J * chs- ~chs@e179196022.adsl.alicedsl.de 1177937247 M * chs- hi, i have setup a vserver with a public ip and /32 maskso the bcast andress should be the same like the IP 1177937257 M * chs- but its alsways shown as 0.0.0.0 1177937308 M * chs- how can i fix that, or is that ok? 1177937376 M * chs- and second question: i want to run a vserver guest with a private ip, but i need also a localhost iface on that guest, how can i setup that? 1177937466 M * chs- btw the md5sum for http://people.linux-vserver.org/~harry/config-2.6.19.7-g-v does not match 1177937691 M * harry damn... 1177937693 A * harry checks 1177937762 M * harry fixe 1177937763 M * harry d 1177937773 A * harry hates md5 sums... they're so useless :) 1177937800 M * chs- yes :), so can you help me with my questions? 1177937821 M * harry lets see... 1177937832 M * harry kinda weird to have your host in a /32 network, isn't it? 1177937848 M * harry that would mean there is only 1 ip in your subnet? 1177937851 M * chs- well thats the setup of the isp 1177937859 J * dothebart ~willi@xdsl-87-78-54-216.netcologne.de 1177937862 M * harry what's your gateway then? 1177937866 M * harry i doubt that btw ;) 1177937882 M * harry so... what's your ip, and what's your gateway? 1177937894 M * harry if it's not the same, there is something wrong... or there is no /32 subnet ;0 1177937895 M * harry ;) 1177937908 M * chs- the gateway is in another network, i also tryed /24 but all with the same result like 0.0.0.0 1177937937 M * harry hmm... chs- ... you do know that's impossible, right? 1177937943 M * chs- its working with 0.0.0.0 but i am not sure if thats an good diea 1177937949 M * chs- idea 1177937975 M * chs- i am not really sure about that but i trust you ;) 1177937979 M * chs- but its working 1177937980 M * harry a gateway is "the way out of your network" so it can't be outside your network... because it needs its default gateway to get out 1177938045 M * chs- ah well no its in another subnet 1177938084 M * harry you have your network with mask 1177938096 M * harry in each network there has to be at least 1 route to the outside world 1177938102 M * harry that one is your gateway 1177938103 M * chs- so my ip is something like xxx.xxx.71.5 and the gateway is xxx.xxx.60.1 1177938166 M * harry then you probably have a /20 1177938180 M * derjohn does "reboot -f" execute the shutdown scripts from rc.d ? if not, how do I enforce to execute the shutdown scripts on reboot the the guest ? 1177938202 M * harry vserver stop ? 1177938248 M * harry chs-: if you tell me the first 2 numbers, i can check it for you... 1177938283 M * harry or check it yourself: whois xxx.xxx.60.1 1177938314 Q * tudenbart Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1177938357 J * FaUl immo@shell.chaostreff-dortmund.de 1177938390 M * harry you are on hansenet... is that an unlimited connection? 1177938443 Q * Aiken Quit: Leaving 1177938592 M * chs- you mean flatrate? 1177938611 M * chs- the default gw is 85.214.64.1 1177938892 M * chs- so inside the guest the bcast address is always set to 0.0.0.0 whatever i choose at subnetmask in the newvserver setup 1177938925 M * harry 0.0.0.0 is "everyone" 1177938956 M * harry borderline network stuff... it's allways a pain in the ass :) 1177939004 M * chs- right, ;-) so any idea how i can fix that? so that the bcast adress is the same like my IP? inside the guest its not allowed 1177939036 M * harry ahmm... put bcast in your config explicitly 1177939055 M * harry but why the hell would you want that 1177939075 M * harry broadcast is: everyone 1177939083 M * harry that's the intention of broadcast :) 1177939098 M * harry what's the point in broadcasting if it's only yourself... use loopback for that ;) 1177939114 M * chs- yes ok ;) well i thought its better cause its the same setup on my first ip 1177939142 M * chs- there is also the IP=broadcast adress 1177939189 M * harry i actually never cared about that 1177939190 J * fatgoose ~samuel@206-248-130-94.dsl.teksavvy.com 1177939195 M * harry since i never use broadcast stuff ;) 1177939206 M * chs- ok i will try it out, so how can i have a localhost device inside my guest? 1177939247 M * harry define it :0 1177939249 M * harry ;) 1177939254 M * chs- also with setting it up in the /etc/vserver config files? 1177939260 M * harry but again... do you need a loopback? 1177939261 M * harry yes 1177939273 M * chs- yep for mysql etc 1177939281 M * harry ? 1177939289 M * harry use sockets if you only need local access 1177939302 M * chs- ok good idea 1177939311 M * chs- thanks :) 1177939313 M * harry np : 1177939314 M * harry ;) 1177939329 M * harry it's a bit safer imho :) 1177939334 M * harry (and easier ;)) 1177939390 M * chs- right 1177939398 M * arachnist isn't it also faster a little? 1177939402 M * harry y 1177940445 Q * chs- Quit: leaving 1177941263 Q * fatgoose Quit: fatgoose 1177941624 J * fatgoose ~samuel@206-248-130-94.dsl.teksavvy.com 1177942862 M * ramon Is there anyway to have an address 127.0.0.1 local to a vm? 1177943025 M * ramon Sorry, not necessary. 1177943145 M * bavi Bertl_oO: <3<3<3<3 1177943148 M * bavi I 1177943151 M * bavi <3 u man.... 1177943806 J * deepsa ~deepsa@59.95.175.69 1177943940 M * bavi deepsa 1177943945 M * bavi ur my friend !?!?! 1177943948 M * deepsa bavi 1177943962 M * deepsa idk 1177943977 M * bavi deepsa: wanna hang out together? i got some great acid man 1177943990 M * deepsa yeah sure 1177944589 J * deepsa_ ~deepsa@59.95.173.76 1177944725 J * chand ~chand@212.99.51.254 1177944746 Q * ema Quit: leaving 1177944753 Q * deepsa Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1177945063 M * ramon Just curious. I can't find any flower in the "great flower page" 1177945085 M * harry ramon: don't you see the magic flower ;) 1177945116 M * ramon By the way, are there eastern eggs in vserver? 1177945130 M * sid3windr the default css was changed 1177945131 M * sid3windr ;) 1177945138 M * harry in firefox: view -> page style -> gras 1177945161 J * marcfiu ~mef@aegis.CS.Princeton.EDU 1177945162 M * harry no easter eggs that i know of, ramon 1177945190 J * phedny_ ~mark@ip56538143.direct-adsl.nl 1177945211 M * ramon That's bad. 1177945234 M * ramon For instance vserver smoke 1177945238 M * sid3windr you want "vserver ns1 moo" ? ;) 1177945251 M * ramon Debian already invented that. 1177945259 M * ramon Only apt-get has Super Cow powers. 1177945275 M * sid3windr aptitude also does 1177945277 M * sid3windr as does iproute2 1177945278 M * sid3windr :) 1177945289 M * ramon I did not know about iproute 1177945309 M * ramon Aaah. 1177945319 M * ramon I see ip moo. 1177945344 M * sid3windr :) 1177945418 M * harry ? 1177945420 M * harry doesn't work here 1177945427 M * harry Object "moo" is unknown, try "ip help". 1177945500 M * sid3windr upgrade to etch, try again 1177945509 M * harry bleh, no! ;) 1177945521 M * sid3windr :) 1177945530 M * harry i've got one etch! ;) 1177945548 M * sid3windr http://paste-it.net/2034 1177945555 Q * ntrs_ Read error: Operation timed out 1177945561 M * harry debian specific it seems 1177945583 M * sid3windr is it? 1177945588 Q * phedny Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1177945618 M * sid3windr lol, indeed 1177945621 M * sid3windr moo.dpatch 1177945629 M * sid3windr [wtf] 1177945650 M * harry i tried on mydoesn't work on my FC6 or RHs 1177945657 M * harry debian hippies have too much time 1177945665 A * harry off for... drinks! 1177945668 M * sid3windr enjoy 1177945672 J * ntrs_ ntrs@68-188-55-120.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com 1177945686 M * harry will moo (tm) :p 1177945698 M * sid3windr =) 1177945735 P * marcfiu 1177946357 J * stefani ~stefani@flute.radonc.washington.edu 1177946400 M * ramon I like the great flower page with the grass1 css. 1177946628 M * daniel_hozac harry: IIRC my linux-vserver address is dhozac@linux-vserver.org 1177946652 M * daniel_hozac harry, ramon: but the correct place to report bugs is either in savannah.nongnu.org or on the mailing list... 1177946701 A * mnemoc likes the classic "gras" css 1177946722 M * ramon I asked here and was given daniel_hozac@vserver.org . OK, will go to nongnu.org 1177946820 M * sid3windr weedpage++ 1177946990 M * daniel_hozac that should've bounced by now 1177949854 Q * deepsa_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1177950543 J * deepsa_ ~deepsa@59.95.174.194 1177950683 Q * Piet Quit: Piet 1177951963 N * DoberMann DoberMann[PullA] 1177952056 Q * pmenier Quit: Quitte 1177952167 Q * chand Quit: chand 1177952470 Q * ntrs_ Quit: Leaving 1177952836 J * bonbons ~bonbons@ppp-111-78.adsl.restena.lu 1177953122 Q * ramon Quit: Saliendo 1177953777 N * Bertl_oO Bertl 1177953785 M * Bertl morning folks! 1177954239 Q * blizz Remote host closed the connection 1177954352 J * blizz ~blizz@evilhackerdu.de 1177954359 J * b0n bon@stfu.rtfm.cz 1177954364 M * b0n hello :) 1177954369 M * b0n just installing plain etch stable 1177954374 M * b0n and would like vserver-grsec 1177954385 M * b0n any apt repositories available or should i just compile? :) 1177954918 N * DoberMann[PullA] DoberMann 1177955250 J * Piet hiddenserv@tor.noreply.org 1177955357 M * Bertl b0n: probably compile is the best ... 1177955382 M * Bertl b0n: at least I do not know any prebuild Linux-VServer + grsec kernels for etch 1177955454 Q * deepsa_ Quit: http://freeshells.ch/~source/ 1177955770 M * b0n Bertl: ok, thanks 1177955785 M * b0n and any easy wiki howto on 'compile on etch' issue? :) 1177955808 M * Bertl it is quite similar to any other distro 1177955831 M * Bertl i.e. get kernel, get patches, apply patches, configure kernel, compile and install kernel and modules, reboot 1177956031 M * b0n Bertl: are the routing tables separate? 1177956036 M * b0n or do all the guests share one 1177956137 M * b0n for each guest i need different default gw, is that possibble? 1177956695 M * Bertl yep 1177956711 M * Bertl you simply have to configure advanced routing and multiple routing tables 1177956725 M * Bertl then you 'assign' one table for each (sub)net 1177956776 M * Bertl b0n: btw, if this is your first time Linux-VServer, I'd suggest to go with the precompiled Linux-VServer kernels/tools from debian 1177959388 J * phedny ~mark@ip56538143.direct-adsl.nl 1177959794 Q * phedny_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1177961236 J * tzafrir_laptop ~tzafrir@bzq-88-152-182-238.red.bezeqint.net 1177961365 J * marcfiu ~mef@aegis.CS.Princeton.EDU 1177961369 Q * lilalinux_ Remote host closed the connection 1177961801 Q * mnemoc Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1177961913 J * mnemoc ~amery@kilo105.server4you.de 1177966359 Q * Piet Quit: Piet 1177967484 J * dreamind ~dreamind@C2107.campino.wh.tu-darmstadt.de 1177967988 J * Aiken ~james@121.45.222.137 1177968524 J * chand ~chand@vau75-3-82-224-128-66.fbx.proxad.net 1177968724 M * Bertl welcome tzafrir_laptop! morning Aiken! 1177968730 M * Aiken hi 1177968743 M * tzafrir_laptop hi 1177969707 P * stefani I'm Parting (the water) 1177970127 Q * Aiken Quit: Leaving 1177970500 P * marcfiu 1177971359 J * DavidS ~david@chello062178045213.16.11.tuwien.teleweb.at 1177971401 Q * DavidS 1177971442 Q * chand Quit: chand 1177973385 N * DoberMann DoberMann[ZZZzzz] 1177975496 J * toidinamai_ ~frank@i59F761CD.versanet.de 1177975929 Q * toidinamai__ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1177976228 Q * boci^ Quit: Távozom 1177976487 J * eDog ~edog@office.aichyna.com 1177976503 M * Bertl welcome eDog! 1177976518 Q * eDog 1177976521 J * eDog ~edog@office.aichyna.com 1177976523 Q * dreamind Quit: dreamind 1177976530 M * Bertl wb eDog! :) 1177977581 Q * meandtheshell Quit: Leaving.