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1177726514 M * ntrs_ does anyone know when Bertl_vV is coming back?
1177728044 N * DoberMann[PullA] DoberMann[ZZZzzz]
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1177749097 M * daniel_hozac mattzerah: semi-pong
1177749154 M * lylix daniel_hozac: which "site" is brcc_ referring to?
1177749375 M * daniel_hozac his?
1177749388 M * lylix prob...
1177749396 M * daniel_hozac he's the virtuatables author.
1177749405 M * lylix ahh... k.
1177749466 M * lylix ive re-written prob 90% of his original
1177749473 M * lylix so far tests are going well
1177749684 M * daniel_hozac note that i think it would be much better to implement something kernel.side-
1177749775 M * lylix yep, im just anticipating the new L2 network namespaces integration
1177749921 M * lylix have to catchup w/ Bertl sometime... he seems to have the two co-existing w/ some measure of success
1177749944 M * lylix w/ vserver as #2 that is :/
1177749945 M * daniel_hozac i think er is the one who has it combined.
1177749975 M * lylix er = biederman?
1177750014 M * lylix er = Bertl?
1177750146 M * daniel_hozac no.
1177750250 M * daniel_hozac it's one of the princeton guys, IIRC.
1177750304 M * lylix so that's what's gg on at princeton.... lol... 
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1177752864 J * meandtheshell ~markus@85-124-233-35.work.xdsl-line.inode.at
1177754430 M * tanjix daniel_hozac: are you around?
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1177767953 M * brcc_ daniel
1177767960 M * brcc_ is lylix rewriting?
1177767974 M * brcc_ my "brb" was too long :)
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1177775669 M * ntrs_ does anyone know when Bertl_vV is coming back?
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1177785588 N * Bertl_vV Bertl
1177785607 M * Bertl ntrs_: I'm back now ... what's up?
1177785615 M * Bertl morning Aiken!
1177785766 M * Aiken good morning
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1177788349 J * Piet hiddenserv@tor.noreply.org
1177788367 M * Bertl welcome Piet!
1177788505 M * Piet yoyoyo
1177789208 N * DoberMann DoberMann[Flim]
1177789408 J * b0c1k4 ~boci@pool-6597.adsl.interware.hu
1177789476 M * Bertl welcome b0c1k4!
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1177790603 M * ntrs_ Bertl, nothing I was just wondering when you were coming back from your vacation. I hope you had a great time
1177790647 M * Bertl yes, definitely ..  tx
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1177794342 M * tanjix hi Bertl!
1177794642 M * Bertl hey tanjix!
1177794672 M * tanjix did you remember where you advices me to install amd64 on my server these days?
1177794683 M * tanjix s/advices/advised
1177794706 M * Bertl yep
1177794736 M * tanjix i followed this and built a kernel - everything fine so far. but one question where you might be of help :)
1177794753 M * tanjix i want to set up all servers with that image (they all are 64-bit capable)
1177794772 M * tanjix so i rsynced that image - after that i want to chroot to the mountpijt to instal the bootloader
1177794780 M * tanjix but i cannot as it says /bin/sh error
1177794788 M * tanjix maybe you have an idea?
1177794794 M * Bertl your system is still 32bit?
1177794816 M * tanjix the rescue cd i used to rsync the image is a 32bit one
1177794823 M * Bertl chrooting to a 64bit system (from 32bit) does not work
1177794828 M * tanjix hmm
1177794853 M * Bertl i.e. you need to boot a 64bit kernel/rescue to use it
1177794870 M * tanjix ok i thought this
1177794870 M * Bertl (but you can use the old grub for booting the 64bit kernels too)
1177794879 M * tanjix so i used the debian cd and used its rescue
1177794893 M * tanjix and i ran update-grub
1177794904 M * tanjix but the system does not boot - it even does not show grub menu upon boot
1177794926 M * Bertl then something went wrong ... maybe a debian/grub issue?
1177795056 M * tanjix hmm i am unsure on this
1177795097 M * Bertl well, there is no 'update-grub' in grub, so I assume it is a debian wrapper/script
1177795111 M * Bertl i.e. you have to ask debian folks how to handle/use that
1177795239 M * tanjix hmm how will the grub bootloader then be written ?
1177795246 M * tanjix with what command? i never sued grub
1177795250 M * tanjix used
1177795263 M * Bertl usually you run either grub directly, or use the grub-install wrapper
1177795291 M * Bertl with grub directly you do: 'setup (hd0)' or similar
1177795317 M * Bertl it might be required to configure the proper device if booted from CD as the bios probably got it wrong :)
1177795840 M * tanjix hmm i will try it again with that
1177795878 M * tanjix i talked with daniel_hozac a lot: we switched a lot of hosts servers to the new vserver software with current kernel and vserver patches. most servers are very high on load average
1177795885 M * tanjix without any reasons for me
1177795900 M * tanjix he meant that a change to amd64 could solve this
1177795904 M * tanjix what do you think?
1177795927 M * Bertl the load is hight compared to what?
1177795938 M * Bertl - older kernel/userspace?
1177795948 M * Bertl - other servers?
1177795987 M * tanjix e.g. a core2duo with 60 guests and 4 gb ram blows up to 300 or more - before we hat very old servers (athlon 1600+) with 1 gb ram an d highest load was 0,8 or so
1177796021 M * Bertl you see a load of 300 on the host?
1177796023 M * tanjix kernel and tools were the ones we built some yeas ago with your help (very old stuff) :)
1177796050 M * tanjix yes 300 or giher, some times about 20 - 30
1177796056 M * tanjix higher
1177796080 M * tanjix daniel said 60 guests would not be too much for that type of hardware
1177796101 M * Bertl definitely not
1177796108 M * Bertl do you see a high load right now?
1177796123 M * Bertl if so, could you upload a 'ps auxwwww' from the host somewhere?
1177796139 M * tanjix vps024:~# w
1177796140 M * tanjix  23:35:28 up 1 day,  7:34,  1 user,  load average: 11,53, 14,03, 13,63
1177796144 M * tanjix currently this
1177796150 M * tanjix and this is too much too i think
1177796194 M * Bertl okay, let's check the 'ps auxwww'
1177796210 M * tanjix http://paste.linux-vserver.org/1600
1177796339 M * tanjix other servers (smaller, 2 gb ram and 2x p4 3,2 ght) also have high loads.... no server of the new hardware we used shows good loads - and i dont know what the problem is :( - maybe we find it with your help
1177796437 M * tanjix currently vps024 shows 28,13
1177796475 M * tanjix if it is from help: http://paste.linux-vserver.org/1601
1177796677 M * meandtheshell Bertl: return of the king :)
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1177797086 M * sid3windr heheh
1177797090 M * sid3windr all hail Bertl 
1177797221 M * Bertl lol
1177797233 M * Bertl tanjix: well, you seem to have quite a number of filesystems
1177797248 M * tanjix Bertl: lvm
1177797254 M * Bertl tanjix: it might be caused by inefficient/broken I/O drivers
1177797275 M * tanjix Bertl: how to verify that?
1177797276 M * Bertl we can do a few tests tomorrow if you like ... I'm quite exhausted for today
1177797297 M * Bertl i.e. I'm off to bed now ... :)
1177797303 M * tanjix of course i like - if we find a solution for that
1177797318 M * Bertl good, so we continue on that tomorrow then ...
1177797330 M * Bertl have a good one everyone ... cya!
1177797337 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ
1177797339 M * tanjix great, thanks!
1177797503 M * onox tanjix: < tanjix> kernel and tools were the ones we built some yeas ago <-- you are running old software on your c2d?
1177797956 M * tanjix onox: no on the c2d we use current software
1177797967 M * tanjix onox: the old servers had old software
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1177799197 J * bchacker ~lemur@d154-20-61-75.bchsia.telus.net
1177799316 M * bchacker is there anyone who can explain how to access a device from a vserver?
1177799348 M * bchacker best I can tell you have to give the capability to the vserver, restart it, add the device node, stop the vserver, remove the cap, start the vserver
1177799360 M * bchacker is that right or is there an easier way?
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