1177028707 J * Piet_ hiddenserv@tor.noreply.org 1177029090 Q * Piet Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1177030863 J * djbclark dclark@opensysadmin.com 1177030943 Q * Piet_ Quit: Piet_ 1177030958 M * djbclark FYI it looks like http://list.linux-vserver.org/ is down 1177031106 M * djbclark Has anyone here happened to have looked into making a linux-vserver livecd? I see that there is an OpenVZ page in progress about that, but based on some Googling it looked to me like linux-vserver might be better, because of vunify (the application would be to demo a client/server app via a livecd) 1177031378 M * djbclark Ah looks like I need to stalk "renihs" :) 1177032239 J * DoberMann_ ~james@AToulouse-156-1-81-6.w86-196.abo.wanadoo.fr 1177032345 Q * DoberMann[ZZZzzz] Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1177034154 Q * bzed Remote host closed the connection 1177035504 Q * Johnnie Remote host closed the connection 1177036476 Q * ensc Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1177036664 J * ensc ~irc-ensc@p54B4EA79.dip.t-dialin.net 1177036815 Q * tanjix Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1177040509 Q * FireEgl Remote host closed the connection 1177041590 J * Johnnie ~jdlewis@c-67-163-247-109.hsd1.pa.comcast.net 1177042990 Q * lilalinux Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1177043661 J * lilalinux ~plasma@dslb-084-058-214-024.pools.arcor-ip.net 1177043840 J * bronson ~bronson@66.237.74.66.ptr.us.xo.net 1177044541 M * Bertl_vV djbclark: IIRC, knoppix comes with Linux-VServer as option, but I don't know what kernel version they use(d) 1177045036 Q * softi42 Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1177045642 J * softi42 ~softi@p549D729E.dip.t-dialin.net 1177047547 M * djbclark Cool, thanks. I also mailed the list a little bit ago. 1177048164 J * FireEgl ~FireEgl@2001:5c0:84dc:0:211:9ff:feca:b042 1177048247 M * Bertl_vV djbclark: doesn't mean that it would not be interesting to have Linux-VServer specific live cds ..so if you feel like it, go crazy there:) 1177048442 J * meandtheshel1 ~markus@85-125-231-195.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at 1177048571 N * DoberMann_ DoberMann 1177052522 N * DoberMann DoberMann[PullA] 1177053806 J * sharkjaw ~gab@158.36.45.236 1177055020 Q * bronson Quit: Ex-Chat 1177055039 J * dna ~naucki@121-228-dsl.kielnet.net 1177055742 J * Gennady ~gennady@ukrpost.is.com.ua 1177055760 M * Gennady hello guys! 1177055845 M * daniel_hozac hi 1177056124 J * cdrx ~legoater@cap31-3-82-227-199-249.fbx.proxad.net 1177056543 J * chand ~chand@212.99.51.254 1177057414 J * prae ~benjamin@foxhound.sherpadown.net 1177057929 J * tanjix ~tanjix@office.star-hosting.de 1177057940 M * tanjix hello, is there a problem using vkill ? 1177057954 M * tanjix vkill: vc_ctx_kill(): No such process 1177057958 M * tanjix but the PID exists 1177058012 M * daniel_hozac and you specified the right xid? 1177058044 M * tanjix sorry? 1177058050 M * tanjix i use "vkill PID" 1177058062 M * tanjix as before on our old vserver systems 1177058067 M * daniel_hozac oh, so you're using util-vserver 0.30.213+? 1177058088 M * tanjix util-vserver: 0.30.212; Dec 9 2006, 12:26:51 1177058092 M * daniel_hozac you'll have to specify the xid then. 1177058110 M * tanjix and what is xid? 1177058119 M * daniel_hozac the context id. 1177058125 M * tanjix hmm ok 1177058129 Q * prae Quit: Pwet 1177058202 M * tanjix vkill --xid 1177058206 M * tanjix would that be correct then? 1177058211 M * tanjix there is no man page for vkill :( 1177058550 M * daniel_hozac vkill --help 1177058559 M * daniel_hozac but yes. 1177058602 M * tanjix vkill --xid 49223 19122 1177058602 M * tanjix vkill: vc_ctx_kill(): No such process 1177058602 M * tanjix vps005:~# 1177058612 M * tanjix does not work either 1177058659 M * daniel_hozac kernel? 1177058669 M * tanjix 2.6.18-4-vserver-686 1177058705 M * daniel_hozac and you've got the right xid and pid, and the process is still alive? 1177058706 M * tanjix the testme.sh script succeeds in all tests if this is from help 1177058791 M * tanjix i think so.. i took them from "vps uax | grep WHATISEARCH" 1177058838 M * daniel_hozac you should use static xids btw. 1177058846 M * daniel_hozac but that shouldn't matter. 1177058897 M * daniel_hozac so if you rerun vps now, the process is still there, with the same pid? 1177059803 M * blizz can i specify custom post-installs scripts when calling vserver build? 1177060230 J * Gennady2 ~gennady@195.58.235.214 1177060241 Q * Gennady Read error: Connection reset by peer 1177060373 M * tanjix daniel_hozac: it workes now, but there is no confirmation that process was killed as i knowed this before :) but iu think that's not a problem so far 1177060713 Q * Gennady2 Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1177061054 M * tanjix another issue: when doing "df -h" inside a vps i do not get any output - on some servers it works - on others not 1177061056 M * tanjix any idea?` 1177061186 M * daniel_hozac blizz: use -d blizzsstuff and put the script in /etc/vservers/.distributions/blizzsstuff/initpost 1177061208 M * daniel_hozac tanjix: probably the guests where it doesn't work empty the mtab when they boot. 1177061276 J * bzed ~bzed@dslb-084-059-103-018.pools.arcor-ip.net 1177061291 J * bzed_ ~bzed@dslb-084-059-103-018.pools.arcor-ip.net 1177061337 Q * bzed_ 1177061498 Q * lilalinux Remote host closed the connection 1177062043 J * lilalinux ~plasma@dslb-084-058-214-024.pools.arcor-ip.net 1177062166 J * gg001_ ~gg003@221.1.175.180 1177062185 Q * gg001_ 1177062216 M * tanjix daniel_hozac: you mean the /etc/mtab in the guest or the mtab file in the configuration structure? 1177062264 M * daniel_hozac tanjix: the one in the guest. 1177062308 M * tanjix hm i cannot believe that. "df -h" worked fine before converting the old confs to the new ones 1177062339 J * leiguan ~gg003@221.1.175.180 1177062354 M * daniel_hozac probably because your guests are using a different initstyle now. 1177062374 M * daniel_hozac try vserver stop; rm -f /etc/vservers//apps/init/style; vserver start 1177062467 M * tanjix yeah that looks good 1177062617 J * Gennady ~gennady@ukrpost.is.com.ua 1177062627 M * tanjix ty 1177062647 P * Gennady 1177062650 J * Gennady ~gennady@ukrpost.is.com.ua 1177062655 M * daniel_hozac you're welcome 1177062660 M * Gennady thnx 1177062685 M * Gennady sorry for divagations :) 1177062760 Q * shedi Quit: Leaving 1177063256 M * mattzerah_ hey daniel - your fc6 vserver kernel rpm is working great in centos 5 1177063265 M * mattzerah_ thought ide let you know :) 1177063272 M * daniel_hozac okay, thanks! 1177063285 M * mattzerah_ yw 1177063325 M * mattzerah_ im just about to (well, over the w/e) dig a bit deeper than ive ever dug before 1177063351 M * mattzerah_ im setting a box up for work, so im going to have to bite the bullet and get stuck into vserver and work out how things actually work 1177063368 M * daniel_hozac sounds good. 1177063407 M * blizz daniel_hozac, wasnt the -d supposed to be "etch"? or is it possible to specify multiple -d options / inherit etch in my custom one? 1177063467 M * daniel_hozac you'd have to duplicate everything etch related to your own. 1177063488 M * mattzerah_ i was just reading ... http://oldwiki.linux-vserver.org/Vservers+and+X .... and i was wondering if anyone has gotten this to work in their configuration - i havnt started yet, but i pretty much want to achieve #1 on the list 1177063565 M * daniel_hozac mattzerah_: hmm? i'm unable to parse what that means. 1177063649 M * mattzerah_ hehe - im looking at getting X working on a virtual console 1177063667 M * daniel_hozac "virtual console"? 1177063669 M * mattzerah_ so i can switch between the host, and a particular guest 1177063682 M * mattzerah_ im trying to use terminology thats on that wiki page 1177063703 Q * leiguan Quit: À뿪 1177063712 M * daniel_hozac so you want to have two X servers running, one on the host, and one on the guest? 1177063719 M * mattzerah_ yupz 1177063732 M * mattzerah_ maybe i should have just said so *blush* 1177063760 M * daniel_hozac well, i guess it should work. 1177063777 M * mattzerah_ somethig like this..... Now just switch to a console, log in as root, enter your vserver and startx 1177063802 M * mattzerah_ as i said, i havnt really tried yet - but i will be over the w/e 1177063809 M * daniel_hozac you're aware that guests capable of running X can wreak havoc on your host, right? 1177063844 M * mattzerah_ not particually - has it to do with the raw capabilities 1177063849 M * mattzerah_ its a secure server for the moment 1177063872 M * mattzerah_ so its not going to be hackable per-se - its for an internal network 1177063892 M * mattzerah_ but if it can cause instabilities ill stay away from that 1177063902 M * mattzerah_ just run xapps through a ssh tunnel 1177063930 M * mattzerah_ i was actually hoping to run centos as the host system, and use fedora 6 as the desktop 1177063953 M * daniel_hozac you can still do that. 1177063972 M * mattzerah_ but if you advise against it then so be it :) 1177063980 M * mattzerah_ cool :) 1177063982 M * daniel_hozac just run the X servers on the host. 1177064002 M * daniel_hozac that'll avoid most of the security issues. 1177064049 M * daniel_hozac (this would be the Running an X session on a vserver section on that wiki page) 1177064057 M * mattzerah_ yup, reading up on it now 1177064082 M * mattzerah_ cools - ill look at doing it that way 1177064088 M * mattzerah_ sorry, bbl - being called 1177064093 M * mattzerah_ thankyou heaps :) 1177064096 M * mattzerah_ ill chat later 1177064097 M * mattzerah_ bye 1177064106 M * daniel_hozac bye 1177064189 M * Gennady daniel_hozac: can you tell me have i to use some specific options for using VirtualHosts on apache under vserver with nginx as proxy? 1177064212 M * daniel_hozac why would you? 1177064216 M * Gennady nginx is on host 1177064230 M * daniel_hozac (not that i have any idea what nginx is) 1177064262 Q * lilalinux Remote host closed the connection 1177064265 M * Gennady apache returns the very first virtualhost... as it doesn't know about servernames 1177064289 M * daniel_hozac why doesn't it know about servernames? 1177064395 M * Gennady couse there are mentioned other virtualhosts. as on host was done and had worked ok. but on vserver doesn't 1177064415 J * lilalinux ~plasma@dslb-084-058-214-024.pools.arcor-ip.net 1177064454 M * daniel_hozac and you have verified that the proxy is passing the hostname along as it should? 1177064478 M * daniel_hozac and that your configuration is correct? 1177064492 M * Gennady hm, maby nginx doen't sent to apache what domain user wants.. ? 1177064496 M * Gennady no 1177064503 M * Gennady how to verify? 1177064548 M * Gennady and one more - if there is only one virtualhost on apache, it works fine 1177064645 M * daniel_hozac tcpdump or a LogFormat with %V in it should do the trick. 1177064736 M * daniel_hozac (or maybe %{Host}o) 1177064788 M * Gennady ok, i'm tring now 1177065190 M * Gennady daniel_hozac %v 1177065233 M * daniel_hozac no, %V. but that depends on your UseCanonicalName setting, so %{Host}o is probably better. 1177065312 M * Gennady ok. i've just tried %v. i got servername only of the first virtualhost, even whyle tring to access others hosts 1177065551 M * Gennady %{Host}o is empty :( 1177065560 M * Gennady nothing is there 1177065583 M * daniel_hozac oh, hehe, i meant %{Host}i. 1177065630 M * Gennady %{Host}i = vserver's ip 1177065644 M * Gennady without hostanem 1177065653 M * Gennady hostname 1177065676 M * Gennady hm, so probably proxy ? 1177065677 M * daniel_hozac well, i guess that's why then. 1177065685 M * daniel_hozac that's where i'd be pointing my finger. 1177065852 M * Gennady thanks. it's much better. now i know where to go :) 1177066332 Q * bragon Quit: Lost terminal 1177067497 J * lilalinux_ ~plasma@80.69.41.3 1177067684 Q * lilalinux Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1177068193 J * Piet hiddenserv@tor.noreply.org 1177069892 Q * Aiken Quit: Leaving 1177072801 J * dreamind ~dreamind@p54A78861.dip0.t-ipconnect.de 1177076365 Q * sharkjaw Quit: Leaving 1177076735 J * foxiness ~nayif@84-235-36-19.dsl.saudi.net.sa 1177077354 M * Gennady daniel_hozac: if it's interesting for you - i just had to use "proxy_set_header Host $host;" option for eash virtual server in ngnix config. found config example on official site of ngnix 1177079688 M * Bertl_vV morning folks! 1177079695 M * Bertl_vV Gennady: what is ngnix? 1177079714 M * daniel_hozac hey Bertl_vV! 1177079766 M * daniel_hozac how's the vacationing going? 1177079780 M * Bertl_vV hey daniel_hozac! how's your day? 1177079817 M * daniel_hozac quite alright, friday and all ;) 1177079818 M * Bertl_vV daniel_hozac: we ended up in the princeton area now ... will have a chat with the princeton folks today, but still on vacation :) 1177079830 M * daniel_hozac hehe, cool. 1177079908 M * Bertl_vV okay, I'm off to the shower .. TTYL 1177079911 M * Gennady Bertl_vV: nginx :) my fingers stagger after a hot workday 1177079935 M * Bertl_vV Gennady: and what is that, if you don't mind? 1177079966 M * Bertl_vV http/mail server? 1177079976 M * Gennady Bertl_vV manualy it's a web server, that also can be used as reverse proxy 1177079994 M * daniel_hozac sort of like Apache? :) 1177080003 M * Bertl_vV ah, i.c. what are the advantages over apache/postfix? 1177080033 M * Bertl_vV performance? 1177080052 M * Gennady smaller and has features to accelerate perfomance and to low down server load 1177080086 M * Bertl_vV interesting, any real world comparisons between apache/nginx/tux? 1177080130 M * Bertl_vV what about lighttpd? 1177080164 M * tanjix hi Bertl! 1177080179 M * Bertl_vV hey tanjix! 1177080198 A * Bertl_vV is now really off to shower ... wbbl 1177080198 M * tanjix you on holiday? 1177080230 M * Gennady world comparisons? i have only myself 1177080332 J * ema ~ema@rtfm.galliera.it 1177080376 M * Gennady as rev proxy - there is no more easily configurable and fast working as nginx 1177080513 M * Gennady everybody try and choose better choice for yourself 1177080708 Q * foxiness Read error: Operation timed out 1177080781 J * shedi ~siggi@ftth-237-144.hive.is 1177081597 J * baldy baldy@pptp.dial.ipv6-network.de 1177081603 M * baldy hi there 1177081617 M * baldy anyone know how can i install a fc vps on a debian host? 1177081633 M * daniel_hozac apt-get install yum; mkdir /etc/rpm; vserver ... build -m yum ... -- -d fcX 1177081643 M * baldy ahh -yum 1177081651 M * baldy i tried with vserver test0 build -m apt-rpm --hostname test0.nowhe.re --interface 10.0.1.0 --netdev eth0 --netprefix 23 1177081654 M * baldy --context 42 -- -d fc4 1177081706 M * daniel_hozac umm, you know FC4 isn't maintained anymore, right? 1177081707 M * baldy oke but same errors 1177081715 M * baldy *** rpm-fake-resolver was built with glibc; please do *** 1177081715 M * baldy *** not report errors before trying a dietlibc version. *** 1177081715 M * baldy *** rpm-fake-resolver was built with glibc; please do *** 1177081731 J * ktwilight ~ktwilight@116.205-66-87.adsl-static.isp.belgacom.be 1177081731 M * daniel_hozac well, that means what it says. 1177081772 M * baldy yeah it means i have to build the vserver-utils new´? 1177081777 M * daniel_hozac why didn't you use dietlibc for the utils? 1177081788 M * daniel_hozac they scream quite loudly about that... 1177081794 M * baldy was not installed 1177081844 M * daniel_hozac and you didn't think it'd be wise to install it then? 1177081854 M * baldy it installed now 1177081868 M * baldy dietlibc ist schon die neueste Version. 1177081869 M * baldy dietlibc-dev ist schon die neueste Version. 1177081996 M * baldy must i need to recompile the utils again? 1177082054 M * daniel_hozac well, does the build fail? 1177082140 Q * ktwilight_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1177082177 M * daniel_hozac (granted, you should use dietlibc anyway to avoid the security issues) 1177082317 Q * Piet Quit: Piet 1177082328 J * stefani ~stefani@flute.radonc.washington.edu 1177082704 M * baldy ib/syscall-legacy.hc: In function 'vc_new_s_context': 1177082704 M * baldy lib/syscall-legacy.hc:103: warning: asm operand 0 probably doesn't match constraints 1177082707 M * baldy lib/syscall-legacy.hc:103: error: impossible constraint in 'asm' 1177082710 M * baldy make[2]: *** [lib/lib_libvserver_a-syscall.o] Error 1 1177082713 M * baldy now i get compile errors 1177082757 M * baldy without dietlibc there was no problem :( 1177083104 J * arachnist ~arachnist@088156189068.who.vectranet.pl 1177083314 M * baldy http://paste.linux-vserver.org/1537 1177083420 M * daniel_hozac well, umm, do you really need the legacy support? 1177083501 M * daniel_hozac i mean, that's for kernels which are at least 3 years old now... 1177083773 M * Bertl_vV baldy: what version is that? 1177083799 M * Bertl_vV baldy: of util-vserver ... 1177083978 J * yarihm ~yarihm@84-75-103-239.dclient.hispeed.ch 1177084260 J * marcfiu ~mef@aegis.CS.Princeton.EDU 1177084269 M * marcfiu I;ll be in my office @ 1pm. 1177084326 J * toidinamai_ ~frank@84.19.199.192 1177084371 M * Bertl_vV marcfiu: good! :) 1177084773 Q * toidinamai__ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1177086233 Q * chand Quit: chand 1177086283 M * Rich_Estill Has anyone used a storage area network to store the vservers to make it easier to move physical servers? 1177086348 M * daniel_hozac i imagine all of the larger providers do that. 1177086371 J * Pazzo ~ugelt@dialin-225136.rol.raiffeisen.net 1177086407 M * Rich_Estill Who are the largest providers? Is there a page listing them? 1177086445 M * daniel_hozac well, i doubt we have any numbers for that, but http://linux-vserver.org/VServer_Hosting lists a few. 1177086454 M * Rich_Estill cool. TY. 1177087142 Q * dreamind Quit: dreamind 1177088337 J * boci^ ~boci@pool-1834.adsl.interware.hu 1177088592 Q * infowolfe_ Quit: Leaving 1177088783 J * infowolfe ~infowolfe@c-67-164-195-129.hsd1.ut.comcast.net 1177088831 Q * SzekiXP 1177089652 Q * ema Quit: leaving 1177089862 Q * Pazzo Quit: Verlassend 1177089907 J * neon ~neon139@d57-10-119.home.cgocable.net 1177090851 J * neon` ~neon139@d57-2-134.home.cgocable.net 1177091123 Q * neon Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1177091551 J * onox ~onox@kalfjeslab.demon.nl 1177091960 N * DoberMann[PullA] DoberMann 1177092243 Q * marcfiu Read error: Connection reset by peer 1177093736 J * rob-84x^ rob@submarine.ath.cx 1177094610 Q * shedi Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1177095005 Q * bzed Quit: Leaving 1177095057 J * bzed ~bzed@dslb-084-059-103-018.pools.arcor-ip.net 1177095100 Q * neon` Read error: Connection reset by peer 1177095263 J * shedi ~siggi@ftth-237-144.hive.is 1177095353 Q * duckx Read error: Connection reset by peer 1177096843 Q * arachnist Read error: Connection reset by peer 1177098574 M * bored2sleep Bertl_vV: if you see Mike W at princeton, say "hi". he was one of the people there working with vserver last time I talked to him... 1177098816 J * bonbons ~bonbons@83.222.38.145 1177099496 J * duckx ~Duck@tox.dyndns.org 1177099514 M * duckx !!dude!! 1177099808 M * onox !!animal!! 1177100551 J * Gennady2 ~gennady@ukrpost.is.com.ua 1177100552 Q * Gennady Read error: Connection reset by peer 1177101218 J * bchecketts ~bcheckett@c-71-206-1-167.hsd1.md.comcast.net 1177101226 J * kevinp ~kevinp@ny.webpipe.net 1177101341 M * kevinp daniel_hozac, didn't I hear that there is a 213 for the utils? 1177101378 M * kevinp Anyone have a link to them? 1177101412 M * daniel_hozac they're not released yet. 1177101417 J * derek_Ogden ~derek_ogd@ny.webpipe.net 1177101439 M * daniel_hozac http://people.linux-vserver.org/~dhozac/t/uv-testing/util-vserver-0.30.213-rc6.tar.bz2 is the most recent snapshot. 1177101443 M * kevinp ok, so you won't complain when I submit a test.sh with 212 then? :) 1177101492 M * daniel_hozac no. 1177101623 M * kevinp Here's a stable success on 2.2: http://pastebin.utahlinux.com/10 1177101665 M * kevinp Bertl on vacation? 1177102657 Q * derek_Ogden Quit: Leaving 1177103253 M * daniel_hozac yep. 1177103358 M * PowerKe A few moments ago I did vserver-stat and I saw CTX 1 Monitoring server, since I rebooted, it's gone? 1177103392 M * daniel_hozac well, do you have any process in xid 1 now? 1177103397 P * bchecketts 1177103416 M * PowerKe I've never done anything with xid's afaik 1177103450 M * daniel_hozac well, ever run vps, vtop, or similar? 1177103464 M * PowerKe oh, it's only visible while vtop is running? 1177103480 M * daniel_hozac as vtop is just top running in xid 1, yes. 1177103502 M * PowerKe thanks for explaining, never noticed that before 1177104218 J * Aiken ~james@121.45.222.137 1177104239 J * id23 ~id@213.155.87.73 1177104247 J * stoned ~k1ll3rrut@i577BB863.versanet.de 1177104447 Q * kevinp Quit: Leaving 1177104714 P * stefani I'm Parting (the water) 1177107934 Q * bzed Remote host closed the connection 1177108139 J * bzed ~bzed@dslb-084-059-103-018.pools.arcor-ip.net 1177108411 J * oliwel ~chatzilla@ppp-82-135-89-90.dynamic.mnet-online.de 1177108428 M * oliwel hello 1177108430 M * oliwel any body in 1177108462 Q * dna Quit: Verlassend 1177108571 Q * boci^ Quit: Távozom 1177108844 Q * meandtheshel1 Quit: Leaving. 1177109136 Q * oliwel Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.3/2007030916] 1177109717 J * Anon984 ~Anon984@134-191.adsl.cust.tie.cl 1177109798 Q * Anon984 1177110662 Q * yarihm Quit: This computer has gone to sleep 1177111027 N * DoberMann DoberMann[ZZZzzz] 1177111992 Q * FireEgl Quit: ... 1177112328 J * newz2000 ~matt@12-210-150-228.client.mchsi.com 1177112394 M * newz2000 how can I test to see if the current kernel has vserver support? 1177112490 M * daniel_hozac cat /proc/virtual/info should do the trick. 1177112522 M * newz2000 daniel_hozac: does its presence imply vserver enabled, or do I need to look for something specific? 1177112545 M * daniel_hozac well, when that exists, you most likely have a vserver kernel. 1177112558 M * newz2000 ok, I thought I'd installed it but couldn't remember 1177112606 M * newz2000 Also, inside a vserver, can I use quotas like I would under normal situations? Enforcing quotas on groups and users. 1177112633 M * newz2000 I've tried searching, but most quota searches talk about enforcing quotas ON vservers, not inside them. 1177112634 M * daniel_hozac if your guest lives on its own filesystem. 1177112647 M * newz2000 oh, bummer. 1177112716 M * newz2000 are there some filesystems that can grow and shrink on demand? 1177112735 M * newz2000 for example, if I have 50GB and want to share it among 5 vservers but not caring how it's allocated 1177112748 M * newz2000 the only goal being getting quotas working 1177112771 M * daniel_hozac i don't know if the e2online resize support is in mainline yet. 1177112795 M * daniel_hozac but i believe one of the "other" filesystems should support that. 1177112811 M * newz2000 well, I'm running dapper, so I'm not exactly at the bleeding edge :-) 1177112885 M * newz2000 any suggestions for workarounds or alternative ideas that might get the job done? 1177112891 Q * Aiken Quit: Leaving 1177112905 M * newz2000 I want to host a few websites and keep their disk usage sane. 1177113065 M * newz2000 I guess I could create loop mounted filesystems and if they grow too big re-create them. 1177113361 M * Wonka ext3fs can be resized online in some cases 1177113402 M * newz2000 Wonka: any hints where I might learn more about that? 1177113412 A * newz2000 is reading the lvm howto atm 1177113423 M * Wonka mh. i'd start with `man resize2fs` 1177113474 Q * bonbons Quit: Leaving 1177113488 M * newz2000 ah, that's an interesting tool