1176941269 N * _Medivh Medivh 1176942047 Q * bzed Quit: Leaving 1176943442 J * RungeKutta ~OMGLOLRK@dsl093-016-075.msp1.dsl.speakeasy.net 1176943445 P * RungeKutta 1176943447 J * RungeKutta ~OMGLOLRK@dsl093-016-075.msp1.dsl.speakeasy.net 1176943531 M * RungeKutta Hello, have another question. Is there a way to auto-start vservers in a specifc order? I can use the 'mark' file of course, but I'd like to start them up in a specific order, mainly because I have BIND running in one server and apache in another. 1176945179 M * cehteh the mark is for that 1176945325 M * RungeKutta how do I specify the order multiple vservers are started in 1176945355 M * RungeKutta I want to start the 'dns' server first, followed by the web and mail vservers. Would the 'depends' file help? 1176945813 J * DoberMann_ ~james@AToulouse-156-1-82-196.w86-196.abo.wanadoo.fr 1176945864 Q * Loki|muh Remote host closed the connection 1176945920 Q * DoberMann[ZZZzzz] Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1176945949 Q * phreak`` Remote host closed the connection 1176945970 J * phreak`` ~phreak``@deimos.barfoo.org 1176946361 J * Loki|muh loki@satanix.de 1176946972 J * daniel_hozac ~daniel@c-1a1472d5.010-230-73746f22.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se 1176948492 M * doener RungeKutta: either that (I don't know how that works), or create a second group. Defining the order in which groups are started is easily controllable by adjusting the runlevels 1176948537 M * Aiken I have used separate init scripts for each mark 1176948577 M * RungeKutta I'll try the mark groups after the depends 1176948585 M * RungeKutta jus going to reboot the machine now and try it 1176948625 M * doener well, I expect "depends" to be more work, as each vserver will need that entry 1176948760 M * RungeKutta cool it worked 1176948773 M * RungeKutta I have 3 vservers: dns, mail, and www 1176948785 M * RungeKutta I want them to start in that order to 1176948849 M * RungeKutta So I put "dns" in the 'depends' file for "mail", "mail" in the 'depends' file for "www", and "default" into the 'mark' file for "www" 1176950061 Q * ensc Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1176951654 P * slack101 1176954773 J * besonen_mobile ~besonen_m@71-220-227-185.eugn.qwest.net 1176956957 J * Solver ~robert@CPE00a0c96b79ba-CM000039aeec61.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com 1176957792 Q * DreamerC_ Quit: leaving 1176957808 J * DreamerC ~dreamerc@125-225-98-66.dynamic.hinet.net 1176957856 Q * softi42 Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1176958375 M * daniel_hozac SzekiXP: you would copy the associated vroot device to that path inside the guest. 1176958451 J * softi42 ~softi@p549D4FE2.dip.t-dialin.net 1176958518 M * daniel_hozac hardwire: hmm? 1176958765 M * hardwire I dunno, somebody was talking about php in here, so I figured they wanted to know something useless 1176958929 M * Bertl_vV greeting folks! 1176958937 M * Bertl_vV +s 1176958984 J * derjohn2 ~aj@213.55.131.22 1176959003 M * daniel_hozac hey Bertl_vV! 1176959713 M * lylix What is the actual interaction w/ the token scheduler in regards to the host? 1176959730 M * Bertl_vV host is unaffected 1176959747 M * Bertl_vV i.e. it is scheduled like 'normal' 1176959756 M * lylix ie. in the case of a guest w/ idle time set, and utilzing 100% CPU, the host context will be "fine"? 1176959791 M * Bertl_vV yep, as the host processes will not allow the guest to consume idle time 1176959797 M * Bertl_vV (when running) 1176959802 M * lylix gotya... 1176959830 M * lylix so such settings for guests are not considered dangerous then 1176959865 M * lylix on a lighter note... how is your vacation? 1176960144 M * Bertl_vV fine fine, tx, now in princeton ... 1176960282 M * lylix just a hop and a skip away... 1176960297 M * lylix supposedly alot of flooding out there atm 1176960633 M * Bertl_vV flooding? 1176961058 N * DoberMann_ DoberMann 1176961910 Q * derjohn2 Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1176962027 Q * kajko Remote host closed the connection 1176962241 Q * Aiken Quit: Leaving 1176962784 Q * sharkjaw Quit: Leaving 1176962815 Q * PowerKe Server closed connection 1176962821 J * sharkjaw ~gab@158.36.45.236 1176962827 J * PowerKe ~tom@d54C13E4B.access.telenet.be 1176962868 Q * boci^ Quit: Távozom 1176962892 M * bored2sleep Bertl_vV: what's up in princeton? 1176962989 M * bored2sleep daniel_hozac: util-vserver seems to work on centos5. had to make a patch for yum-3.0.5, but otherwise seems fine. just copied the files from distrobutions/centos4 1176963739 M * Bertl_vV bored2sleep: not much right now .. it's way after midnight :) 1176963799 J * dna ~naucki@152-228-dsl.kielnet.net 1176963865 Q * cdrx Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1176964517 J * DavidS ~david@chello062178045213.16.11.tuwien.teleweb.at 1176965499 N * DoberMann DoberMann[PullA] 1176965851 J * ensc ~irc-ensc@p54b4e9ac.dip.t-dialin.net 1176966608 J * Aiken ~james@121.45.222.137 1176966685 M * daniel_hozac bored2sleep: so the patch for 3.0.3 didn't work on 3.0.5? 1176966722 M * bored2sleep dunno, didn't see that one. I was using the files in -212 I think, and there was only 2.9.6 or something 1176966739 M * bored2sleep there weren't many changes in any case 1176968151 J * cdrx ~legoater@blueice3n1.uk.ibm.com 1176968983 Q * besonen Read error: Connection reset by peer 1176968989 J * besonen_ ~besonen@dsl-db.pacinfo.com 1176969320 Q * sid3windr Server closed connection 1176969322 J * sid3windr luser@bastard-operator.from-hell.be 1176971124 J * bzed ~bzed@dslb-084-059-127-183.pools.arcor-ip.net 1176972226 M * Borg- sid3windr: hehe :) I use Seagate disks.. no problems so far.. 1176972469 M * matti Morning. 1176973164 M * SzekiXP daniel_hozac: And how to mount it? i have to mount the vroot device inside the guest, or I have to mount the real one? 1176973188 M * daniel_hozac SzekiXP: neither. you added it to the guest's fstab, right? 1176973239 M * tanjix anyone knows how to restore a deleted logical volume from lvm? 1176973532 M * harry tidiiiiiiiiiii 1176975959 Q * DoberMann[PullA] Remote host closed the connection 1176976259 Q * DavidS Quit: Leaving. 1176976464 J * DoberMann[PullA] ~james@AToulouse-156-1-82-196.w86-196.abo.wanadoo.fr 1176977053 J * dna_ ~naucki@152-228-dsl.kielnet.net 1176977459 Q * dna Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1176978372 Q * tanjix 1176979137 J * lilalinux ~plasma@dslb-084-058-202-056.pools.arcor-ip.net 1176979837 J * Piet hiddenserv@tor.noreply.org 1176979966 Q * lilalinux Remote host closed the connection 1176981978 J * Ben81 ~Ben81@tipi0e.lri.fr 1176982655 Q * Ben81 Quit: Leaving 1176983125 Q * Aiken Quit: Leaving 1176983161 J * hardwire` ~bip@rdbck-7574.palmer.mtaonline.net 1176983306 Q * hardwire Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1176984499 Q * mjt Server closed connection 1176984504 J * mjt ~mjt@81.13.94.2 1176984635 Q * micah Remote host closed the connection 1176984664 J * micah ~micah@204.13.164.72 1176985125 Q * lylix Read error: Connection reset by peer 1176985291 J * Val ~val@v41.org 1176985328 J * TangoDev ~tango_jav@203.145.188.130 1176985350 Q * Val 1176985356 M * SzekiXP deniel_hozac: Yes I have added it to /etc/vserers/alpha/fstab, but it contains the real device path, and if I do quotacheck than the guest vserver tries to access the root servers real device. 1176985399 M * daniel_hozac SzekiXP: that's where you should copy the vroot device. 1176985415 M * daniel_hozac or modify the mtab to point to it. 1176985502 M * SzekiXP ok i have copy it, and i have to make the same path inside the vserver as the real one ? I mean if the real device is in /dev/mapper/XY and I attach it to a vroot device, after that I copy the vroot device to the same path inside the guset vserver ? 1176985532 J * Val ~val@v41.org 1176985616 M * TangoDev hallo 1176985641 M * TangoDev pls tell me something about how the Router HW works? 1176985705 M * SzekiXP deniel_hozac: the mount command inside the vserver tells this : /dev/mapper/webroot-quotatest on /var/www-root type ufs (usrquota,grpquota), but this is the rela access path to the device. 1176985729 M * daniel_hozac SzekiXP: exactly. 1176985824 M * daniel_hozac SzekiXP: so either you modify the mtab, or just name the vroot device the same thing. 1176985836 N * TangoDev Tango 1176985932 J * hardwire ~bip@rdbck-2659.palmer.mtaonline.net 1176986081 Q * hardwire` Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1176987278 Q * virtuoso Server closed connection 1176987321 J * virtuoso ~s0t0na@80.253.205.251 1176987789 Q * Tango Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1176988722 J * marcfiu ~mef@aegis.CS.Princeton.EDU 1176988754 Q * meandtheshel1 Quit: Leaving. 1176989143 J * meandtheshel1 ~markus@85-124-232-55.work.xdsl-line.inode.at 1176989265 J * Piet_ hiddenserv@tor.noreply.org 1176989536 Q * yang Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1176989553 J * yang ~yang@cpe-213-157-253-172.dynamic.amis.net 1176989630 Q * Piet Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1176990407 Q * sharkjaw Quit: Leaving 1176991465 Q * cdrx Read error: Connection reset by peer 1176991500 Q * Val Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1176992378 J * cdrx ~legoater@blueice2n1.uk.ibm.com 1176993573 J * lilalinux ~plasma@dslb-084-058-202-056.pools.arcor-ip.net 1176993764 J * Guy- UET3GBYDuZ@chardonnay.math.bme.hu 1176993767 M * Guy- hi 1176993787 M * Guy- is there a way to mount a filesystem into the namespace of a running vserver? 1176993872 M * harry yes! 1176993961 M * Guy- and that way is...? :) 1176993966 M * Guy- I tried vnamespace 1176993966 M * harry vnamespace iirc 1176993971 M * Guy- ah? 1176993992 M * harry vnamespace -e mount 1176994044 M * Guy- and this will then also chroot into the root of the xid? 1176994076 M * harry it will mount... nothing more 1176994088 M * harry then enter the vserver and do cat /proc/mounts 1176994093 M * harry to check wether you were right :) 1176994107 M * harry (NOT /etc/mtab) 1176994141 M * Guy- OK, so it will mess up the mtab of the host 1176994184 M * Guy- and the mount point would then have to be relative to the root of the host, not the virtual context? 1176994221 M * harry try it... doesn't really matter if it fails first ;) 1176994232 M * harry just unmount it if it's wrong ;) 1176994271 M * Guy- OK, trial and error it'll be then :) 1176994333 M * harry i'm not 100%, but u think it's relative to the virtual context 1176994431 M * Guy- so then it does chroot :) 1176994510 M * Guy- no, path must be relative to root of host 1176994611 M * daniel_hozac yep. 1176994655 M * Guy- I just tried something like vnamespace -e 4 umount -n --bind /tmp /vservers/foo/home/tmp as a test 1176994670 M * Guy- and /home/tmp inside foo does have the correct permissions of /tmp 1176994673 M * Guy- but it's empty 1176994770 M * daniel_hozac s/umount/mount/, i assume? 1176994776 M * Guy- oh yes 1176994784 M * Guy- and I did touch /home/tmp/foo 1176994788 M * Guy- the file was there 1176994801 M * Guy- I then went and vnamespace -e 4 umounted the fs 1176994810 M * Guy- now where is the file gone? :) 1176994820 M * daniel_hozac ls -l /tmp 1176994843 M * Guy- it's not there 1176994878 M * daniel_hozac you can't see it in the host's /tmp? 1176994908 M * Guy- no 1176994930 M * Guy- vnamespace -e 4 mount -n --bind /tmp/test /vservers/p2p/home/tmp 1176994931 M * Guy- mount: special device /tmp/test does not exist 1176994942 M * Guy- I just did mkdir /tmp/test and touch /tmp/test/bar 1176994948 M * Guy- the directory is there 1176994954 M * Guy- maybe bind mounts don't work? 1176995021 M * daniel_hozac what kernel? 1176995032 M * Guy- 2.6.19.2-vs2.2.0-rc8.7 1176995108 Q * cdrx Read error: Connection reset by peer 1176995187 M * daniel_hozac well, works fine here on 2.6.20-1.2936.fc6.vs2.2.0.1 (basically 2.6.20.4-vs2.2.0). 1176995205 M * Guy- OK, I'll try with a new kernel too 1176995241 M * Guy- I'll want to use mount -n to avoid messing up the /etc/mtab on the host, right? 1176995249 M * daniel_hozac yep. 1176995254 M * Guy- thanks 1176995260 M * daniel_hozac or use secure-mount and point it at the right mtab 1176995375 J * cdrx ~legoater@blueice4n2.uk.ibm.com 1176995377 M * Guy- OK 1176997051 J * NonServiam ~yy4vo3l@85.98.122.220 1176997124 A * NonServiam hi all 1176997299 P * NonServiam --=|[Menzil ScriPt]|=-- 1176997921 J * toidinamai__ ~frank@84.19.198.52 1176998073 Q * lilalinux Remote host closed the connection 1176998078 J * _mcp ~hightower@wolk-project.de 1176998099 Q * mcp Read error: Connection reset by peer 1176998109 Q * besonen_mobile Read error: Connection reset by peer 1176998128 J * besonen_mobile ~besonen_m@71-220-227-185.eugn.qwest.net 1176998351 Q * toidinamai_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1176998533 J * stefani ~stefani@flute.radonc.washington.edu 1176998813 J * lilalinux ~plasma@dslb-084-058-202-056.pools.arcor-ip.net 1176999183 Q * lilalinux Remote host closed the connection 1176999458 J * mstrobert ~mstrobert@wkstn.wycliffe.ca 1177000191 Q * baldy Remote host closed the connection 1177000559 J * lilalinux ~plasma@dslb-084-058-202-056.pools.arcor-ip.net 1177001455 J * bonbons ~bonbons@83.222.38.145 1177001689 J * boci^ ~boci@pool-1834.adsl.interware.hu 1177001883 Q * Piet_ Remote host closed the connection 1177001892 J * Piet__ hiddenserv@tor.noreply.org 1177002238 Q * cdrx Read error: Connection reset by peer 1177004300 M * blizz i'm always surprised that googling after "great flower page" doesnt actually lead me to the great flower page :-P 1177005038 M * daniel_hozac hmm, it used to be the first hit. 1177006081 J * tanjix ~tanjix@office.star-hosting.de 1177006084 M * tanjix hello 1177006117 M * daniel_hozac hi 1177006140 M * tanjix daniel_hozac: you sent me a link to a converting tool from legacy config to new style config 1177006147 M * mnemoc the great flower page loosed it'S greatness :( 1177006160 M * daniel_hozac yeah :( 1177006179 M * tanjix i used it to convert a old config to new style, but when starting the vserver with the new style config i am getting errors :( 1177006183 M * tanjix can you help me? 1177006196 M * daniel_hozac what kind of errors? 1177006217 M * tanjix http://pastebin.ca/448495 1177006246 N * DoberMann[PullA] DoberMann 1177006364 M * mnemoc daniel_hozac: any interest in supporting etc/vservers/.defaults/dev/ ? 1177006388 M * daniel_hozac tanjix: should be enough to do echo > /etc/vservers//interfaces/0/dev 1177006394 M * daniel_hozac mnemoc: hmm? 1177006410 M * mnemoc daniel_hozac: to populate dev/ of the guests on start 1177006421 M * daniel_hozac shouldn't that be a build activity? 1177006441 M * tanjix daniel_hozac: interface = eth0 then ? 1177006447 M * mnemoc daniel_hozac: build-time assume dev/ and other other folders are on the same partition 1177006449 M * daniel_hozac tanjix: if that's there you want it, yes. 1177006463 M * daniel_hozac s/there/where/ 1177006469 M * mnemoc daniel_hozac: that is weak, because that root has to be 'dev' capable 1177006492 M * tanjix daniel_hozac: there is no file called dev in that folder 1177006498 M * tanjix daniel_hozac: create it? 1177006505 M * daniel_hozac tanjix: yes. 1177006520 M * mnemoc daniel_hozac: following udev style, to have a /dev as tmpfs dev capable and rw, and the root nodev, is safer 1177006527 M * tanjix ok i did 1177006530 M * tanjix now i get a new error 1177006535 M * tanjix WARNING: '/etc/vservers/astoll/interfaces/0/dev' does not end on newline 1177006538 M * daniel_hozac mnemoc: that sounds like a very specific setup. 1177006555 M * daniel_hozac tanjix: you ran echo > /etc/vservers//interfaces/0/dev? 1177006577 M * mnemoc daniel_hozac: i know you don't use that setup, but it's becoming more "standard" with udev 1177006579 M * tanjix daniel_hozac: no i did it manually :) shall i retry with echo ? 1177006611 M * mnemoc daniel_hozac: and let you (on vserver world) keep everything except /dev nodev 1177006618 M * daniel_hozac mnemoc: it still requires you to have each guest on separate filesystems, and that you want /dev to be a separate mount. 1177006634 M * mnemoc daniel_hozac: yes, just like tmp/ 1177006680 M * mnemoc no "need" of havinf each guest on a separate filesystem 1177006703 M * tanjix daniel_hozac: i did it with echo now, tried to start and i get aid the vserver is already running but it is not ?! 1177006722 M * daniel_hozac tanjix: according to what? 1177006740 M * tanjix daniel_hozac: and when i try to stop it i get after some seconds "a timeout occured while waiting for the vserver ..." 1177006754 M * mnemoc if etc/vservers/.defaults/dev or etc/vservers/$guest/dev are there, using udev-like approch, if not use hardcoded dev/ on guest's root 1177006793 M * daniel_hozac mnemoc: well, i guess i wouldn't reject a sane patch. 1177006847 M * mnemoc i'm using pre-start to hack this behaviour, but i'll try to include it on vserver itself 1177006931 M * tanjix daniel_hozac: sems to work now, but when stopping a vserver: http://pastebin.ca/448509 1177008647 N * Piet__ Piet 1177010123 N * _mcp mcp 1177013213 Q * bonbons Quit: Leaving 1177013748 Q * lilalinux Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1177013770 J * lilalinux ~plasma@dslb-084-058-202-056.pools.arcor-ip.net 1177014436 J * Aiken ~james@ppp222-137.lns2.bne1.internode.on.net 1177015000 J * dreamind ~dreamind@C2107.campino.wh.tu-darmstadt.de 1177015758 Q * yang Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1177015889 J * yang ~yang@cpe-213-157-253-172.dynamic.amis.net 1177016027 J * BenG ~ben@82-45-23-100.cable.ubr03.azte.blueyonder.co.uk 1177016112 M * BenG Hi everyone, I get no response from http://list.linux-vserver.org/ , is this a know problem? I would like to join the email list. 1177016175 M * daniel_hozac unfortunately, yes. 1177016193 M * daniel_hozac use mailto:vserver-request@list.linux-vserver.org?subject=subscribe for now. 1177016199 M * BenG cheers 1177016201 Q * meandtheshel1 Quit: Leaving. 1177016415 P * BenG 1177016911 P * marcfiu 1177018152 M * Borg- hi ho folks.. not vserver related question.. but why would kernel stop respond to IP on eth1:0 iface (mask 255.255.255.255).. everything worked fine on 2.4 1177018169 M * Borg- I upgraded to 2.6 and I see traffic on tcpdump.. but kernel discards the packets 1177018579 M * daniel_hozac iptables? 1177019548 N * DoberMann DoberMann[ZZZzzz] 1177019581 M * Borg- nope. 1177019592 M * Borg- fixed.. I had to ifconfig eth1:0 down 1177019596 M * Borg- and configure it again.. 1177019597 M * Borg- very weird 1177020203 P * stefani I'm Parting (the water) 1177020560 Q * dna_ Quit: Verlassend 1177021872 Q * dreamind Quit: dreamind 1177024080 Q * lilalinux Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1177024751 J * lilalinux ~plasma@dslb-084-058-222-229.pools.arcor-ip.net 1177025205 Q * boci^ Quit: Távozom 1177026427 J * zLinux_ ~zLinux@88.213.56.149 1177026505 Q * zLinux Ping timeout: 480 seconds