1176768654 Q * Hollow Remote host closed the connection 1176768663 J * F^\XmAsMn ~hollow@styx.xnull.de 1176768723 N * F^\XmAsMn Hollow 1176768766 J * MHGuest861 ModemHelpG@pool-64-223-171-35.man.east.verizon.net 1176768774 M * MHGuest861 HEllo ? 1176768847 N * MHGuest861 miked 1176768851 M * miked HELLO ? 1176768916 P * miked 1176772933 J * FireEgl ~FireEgl@2001:5c0:84dc:0:211:9ff:feca:b042 1176773023 J * DoberMann_ ~james@AToulouse-156-1-144-253.w90-30.abo.wanadoo.fr 1176773130 Q * DoberMann[ZZZzzz] Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1176773569 Q * Loki|muh Remote host closed the connection 1176773873 Q * sc0tt Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1176774056 J * sc0tt ~scott@209.51.169.84 1176774062 J * Loki|muh loki@satanix.de 1176774705 Q * ensc Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1176776993 J * ensc ~irc-ensc@p54B4E618.dip.t-dialin.net 1176778685 M * slack101 Hola Gringos 1176779294 M * Bertl_vV Hola SlackGringo :) 1176779607 M * slack101 lol 1176779642 M * slack101 Bertl_vV: still jus working on the server ........ este trabajado ed muy dificil hoy 1176779814 M * Bertl_vV hehe ... 1176783297 Q * Piet Quit: Piet 1176784831 Q * softi42 Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1176785009 M * daniel_hozac derjohn: you don't have to modify the utils for more IPs anymore. 1176785242 M * daniel_hozac (unless you have legacy guests, that is) 1176785446 J * softi42 ~softi@p549D73A8.dip.t-dialin.net 1176786160 Q * Solver Quit: BBL 1176787149 M * slack101 lol 1176787156 M * slack101 i really dont understand the problem 1176787177 M * slack101 vserver myguest45 build -m debootstrap --context 1253 --hostname debian --interface eth0:xx.xx.xx.xxx/24 -- -d etch -m http://ftp.au.debian.org/debian/ 1176787182 M * slack101 that is correct right ? 1176787285 J * _mcp ~hightower@wolk-project.de 1176787328 Q * mcp Read error: Connection reset by peer 1176787511 M * daniel_hozac slack101: yep. 1176787543 M * blizz damm debian maintainers. python 2.4 as default.. 1176787628 M * Koffa and? 1176787665 M * slack101 daniel_hozac: doesnt work though :D 1176787707 M * slack101 ERROR: Could not download the debootstrap package from 1176787707 M * slack101 http://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/d/debootstrap/debootstrap_0.3.3_all.de 1176787837 M * daniel_hozac slack101: as i told you yesterday, that error message comes with the most specific instructions found anywhere in the utils... 1176787867 M * blizz Koffa, i want 2.5 :) 1176787888 M * daniel_hozac python 2.5 doesn't work with everything yet. 1176787909 M * daniel_hozac (yes, i know it's the other stuff that sucks, but i can understand why they wouldn't want to use it by default) 1176787940 M * Koffa blizz: it's available though? 1176787992 M * slack101 daniel_hozac: soo ? upgrade is that what you are saying ? 1176788172 M * Hollow oh jesus 1176788194 M * slack101 hmmm i dont even have these directories hmmm 1176788203 Q * Borg- Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1176788207 M * slack101 daniel_hozac: by the way its still the same day for me ;) 1176788403 N * DoberMann_ DoberMann 1176789153 M * slack101 lol 1176789161 M * slack101 the file it says it cant fid is there 1176789294 M * slack101 ah they added a 3 1176789309 M * slack101 what file ca i change this so it downloads the right one ? 1176790438 J * phedny ~mark@phedny.vps.van-cuijk.nl 1176791233 J * kir_home ~kir@65.91.54.2 1176791234 Q * mattzerah Read error: Connection reset by peer 1176791239 J * mattzerah ~matt@121.50.222.55 1176791530 J * sharkjaw ~gab@158.36.45.236 1176791609 J * dna ~naucki@19-236-dsl.kielnet.net 1176791843 N * DoberMann DoberMann[PullA] 1176792339 Q * kir_home Quit: Ухожу я от вас 1176792828 J * cdrx ~legoater@cap31-3-82-227-199-249.fbx.proxad.net 1176793071 Q * cdrx 1176793208 J * cdrx ~legoater@cap31-3-82-227-199-249.fbx.proxad.net 1176793600 M * daniel_hozac slack101: did you read the message _at_all_? 1176794141 J * nano ~nano@53.Red-88-16-30.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net 1176794259 Q * nano Remote host closed the connection 1176794322 J * gonzo ~nano@53.Red-88-16-30.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net 1176794518 M * bored2sleep so, anybody working on util-vserver with centos5 yet? 1176794531 M * bored2sleep I mean, centos4 is just SO last week 1176794540 M * bored2sleep :) 1176794583 M * daniel_hozac haven't gotten around to it yet, but should get to it later today... 1176794604 M * gonzo Hi, good morning 1176794622 M * daniel_hozac hello 1176794687 M * gonzo I'm trying to install vserver on Debian etch 1176794722 M * gonzo I've (two years ago) installed on Debian woody with per-context quota support in a shared partition 1176794758 M * gonzo does currently support vserver per-context quota in a shared partition ? 1176794811 M * daniel_hozac no, because nobody has been willing to test it on 2.6. 1176794822 M * daniel_hozac or well, people have been willing, but not done anything about it. 1176794889 M * gonzo ok, and... what kind of tests are needed? 1176794902 M * daniel_hozac well, verify that it works as it should. 1176794957 M * gonzo and does exists anywhere the patch or package to test it? 1176795007 M * daniel_hozac no, since nobody has stepped up to test it, it hasn't been written yet. 1176795037 M * daniel_hozac first step would be to test the quota hashes. 1176795115 M * gonzo installing quota support inside a vserver? 1176795148 M * daniel_hozac i guess on the host would be fine as well. 1176795159 M * daniel_hozac doesn't really matter as it's not context aware yet. 1176795265 M * gonzo hmmm, but if I do install quota support on the host... what troubles can I expect? 1176795278 J * phreak`` ~phreak``@deimos.barfoo.org 1176795289 M * gonzo (since quota support on a host is trivial) 1176795305 M * daniel_hozac with 2.3, you'd be excercising the quota hashes. 1176795852 M * gonzo well, I need to install a server before fifteen days. so, It's a very short time to test and implement the support for 2.6 1176795903 M * gonzo I will try to find a quick solution for now and later I can test anything 1176795904 M * daniel_hozac not likely to happen then, as Bertl_vV is on vacation right now :) 1176795976 M * gonzo ok, and what can I do to get per context quota support? 1176795991 M * gonzo separated partitions with lvm or so? 1176796002 M * daniel_hozac yep. 1176796234 M * gonzo Ok, thanks. I will try to help to get per context quota support in 2.6 once I've finished with this server. 1176796508 Q * gonzo Quit: using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.12 1176796815 J * DavidS ~david@chello062178045213.16.11.tuwien.teleweb.at 1176796842 J * meandtheshel1 ~markus@85-125-231-105.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at 1176797313 Q * daniel_hozac Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1176797852 Q * Adrinael_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1176797952 J * derjohn2 ~aj@e180201241.adsl.alicedsl.de 1176798692 J * Borg- borg@aprogas.student.utwente.nl 1176800756 Q * shedi Quit: Leaving 1176801237 J * lilalinux ~plasma@80.69.41.3 1176802152 J * chand ~chand@212.99.51.254 1176802245 J * TheSeer ~theseer@nonfood-fire2.nmmn.net 1176802248 M * TheSeer heya :) 1176802472 Q * chand Quit: chand 1176803478 J * Piet hiddenserv@tor.noreply.org 1176803884 J * Adrinael adrinael@rid7.kyla.fi 1176803937 J * chand ~chand@212.99.51.254 1176804415 J * besonen_mobile_ ~besonen_m@71-220-227-185.eugn.qwest.net 1176804565 Q * besonen_mobile Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1176804650 Q * derjohn2 Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1176804700 Q * mattzerah Remote host closed the connection 1176806091 Q * chand Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1176806409 J * bragon ~bragon@195.7.121.158 1176806412 M * bragon lo 1176806443 M * bragon anyone here use ipv6 under vserver ? 1176806457 M * bragon i search a vserver ipv6 howto 1176806546 M * bragon http://linux-vserver.org/IPv6 1176806548 M * bragon i see that 1176806761 J * SzekiXP SzekiXP@coyote.loom.hu 1176806847 Q * glen_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1176806861 J * kir_home ~kir@65.91.54.2 1176806923 J * glen_ ~glen@elves.delfi.ee 1176807056 M * SzekiXP Hello. I have two questions to the list: 1. I have a vserver installation under debian etch (stable). it is installed on the default /var/lib/vserver dir. It will be a web server, and i need quota. Becouse i want it to be fast, I want to leave the system on this place, and mount an external partiton for data, and I want the quota activate on that. The how-tos wich I have found describes only the case, if I put everything on a single partition. 1176807297 M * SzekiXP I give quota_ctl to ccapabilities file, ad tried secure_mount too, and inserted /dev/hdv2 /var/www-root ufs rw,usrquota,grpquota 0 0 to /apps/init, made a vroot device (have to recompile etch kernel to work), copyied the vroot device to /vserver/dev/hdv2, but I have no right to mount it. 1176807461 Q * DavidS Quit: Leaving. 1176807496 M * SzekiXP Do I really need vroot device, if my root vserver partition is not using quota, just one mounted ? How can i check that I really give the necessery capability to vserver (quota_ctl)? 1176807555 M * SzekiXP All of all: Howto mount an external partiton under vserver, If I want to use qota on the external partition? 1176807585 Q * kir_home Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1176807710 Q * dna Read error: Connection reset by peer 1176807734 J * dna ~naucki@169-243-dsl.kielnet.net 1176809631 J * mcp ~hightower@wolk-project.de 1176809841 Q * _mcp Read error: Connection reset by peer 1176811103 J * cruser ~chatzilla@72.242.194.162 1176811296 J * Rich_Estill ~restill@c-24-11-195-139.hsd1.mi.comcast.net 1176811435 Q * Aiken Remote host closed the connection 1176811648 J * SoftIce ~phil@vc-196-207-45-253.3g.vodacom.co.za 1176811651 M * SoftIce hey linux gurus! 1176811654 M * SoftIce I need some advice 1176811666 M * SoftIce what could this error mean, Uncompressing Linux... Ok, booting the kernel 1176811682 M * SoftIce Kernel panic - not syncing: NFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0) 1176811698 M * SoftIce normally I would have thought it doesn't have the correct fs loaded into the kernel? 1176811704 M * SoftIce thing is I have ext2 and ext3 loaded? 1176811721 M * phedny have you compiled ext2 / ext3 support into the kernel? 1176811760 M * SoftIce supposedly yes :) 1176811782 M * Adrinael What about the IDE/SATA driver? 1176811795 M * SoftIce hmm 1176811798 M * SoftIce let me double chec that 1176811816 M * Adrinael unknown-block looks scary enough to point that way 1176811856 M * SoftIce <*> SiS5513 chipset support 1176811892 Q * cdrx Read error: Operation timed out 1176811960 J * daniel_hozac ~daniel@c-091472d5.010-230-73746f22.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se 1176811991 M * SoftIce hey daniel_hozac maybe u will know :) 1176811998 M * SoftIce what could this error mean, Uncompressing Linux... Ok, booting the kernel 1176811999 M * SoftIce Kernel panic - not syncing: NFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0) 1176812020 M * SoftIce thing is I have ext2/3 support in, and I do seem to have <*> SiS5513 chipset support loaded for my controller 1176812027 M * daniel_hozac means you didn't specify a root. 1176812035 M * daniel_hozac or the root you specified can't be parsed by the kernel. 1176812039 M * SoftIce in menu.lst 1176812071 M * SoftIce kernel /boot/vmlinuz root=UUID=00e2522c-9b16-4b20-a62d-fe7ee2758bc6 ro quiet splash 1176812071 M * SoftIce initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.19.7-grsec2.1.10-vs2.2.0 1176812084 M * Adrinael How about CONFIG_IDE? 1176812107 M * Adrinael Controller chip is not enough 1176812117 M * SoftIce oh? 1176812187 M * daniel_hozac SoftIce: and you generated that initrd? 1176812221 M * SoftIce daniel_hozac: ya 1176812234 M * SoftIce and it worked fine ad that initrd.img* is sitting in /boot 1176812239 M * SoftIce so it did generate it correctly 1176812242 M * daniel_hozac with your distribution's equivalent of mkinitrd, yes? 1176812270 M * SoftIce I used mkinitramfs -o 1176812353 M * SoftIce hmm could i be because I dont have RAM dis support? 1176812382 M * bragon hello (re) 1176812402 M * Adrinael Isn't initramfs something different from ramdisk 1176812402 M * bragon if i emerge vserver-source, do i have the ipv6 patch too, to my gentoo kernel ? 1176812404 M * Adrinael Or so I remember 1176812415 M * SoftIce Adrinael: ye 1176812422 M * SoftIce just wondering if I missed compiling something 1176812427 M * Adrinael Meaning, ramdisk support not needed 1176812436 M * Adrinael Well, do you have that IDE driver? 1176812445 M * Adrinael grep your .config for CONFIG_IDE 1176812446 M * daniel_hozac bragon: it's a separate patch, you have to add that manually. 1176812465 M * daniel_hozac SzekiXP: the vroot device is just a quota proxy. you can't mount it. 1176812495 M * SoftIce config_ide=y config_ide_generic=m confile idepc_sha... y config_imdea_auto=yes 1176812501 M * SoftIce err config_idedma_auto 1176812542 M * daniel_hozac SzekiXP: it should be enough to just add the typical fstab line to the guest's fstab, i.e. /etc/vservers//fstab 1176812543 M * Adrinael And that ide_generic's module is in the initrd? 1176812544 M * bragon daniel_hozac ok thx 1176812614 M * SoftIce Adrinael: I believe so ? 1176812646 M * SoftIce how would i tell 1176812660 M * daniel_hozac you shouldn't need to have ide_generic in the initrd, if you have the one for your chipset in the kernel. 1176812677 M * SoftIce ok so could it be defaulting to that? 1176812715 M * daniel_hozac well, IMHO you're missing the initrd support. 1176812715 M * SoftIce maybe because it was loaded as a module? 1176812753 M * SoftIce daniel_hozac: sorry initrd support in the kernel 1176812772 M * daniel_hozac i don't remember how exactly that code works, but i don't think it'll look at the initrd address for an initramfs if you don't have that support. 1176812775 M * daniel_hozac yes. 1176812814 M * SoftIce ahh, I see 1176812947 M * cruser dhozac: Hi. Did you have any luck with the new vserver kernel? 1176813002 M * daniel_hozac cruser: it should be available already. 1176813027 M * SoftIce great found it 1176813028 M * SoftIce its in block devices 1176813052 M * SoftIce and it wasn't loaded 1176813109 M * cruser cool. Doing "yum update kernel-smp" gives me 2.6.20-1.2312.fc5.vs2.2.0.1. Is that right? 1176813575 J * chand ~chand@212.99.51.254 1176814105 J * cdrx ~legoater@blueice3n1.uk.ibm.com 1176814129 J * ema ~ema@rtfm.galliera.it 1176814162 M * daniel_hozac cruser: yeah. 1176814192 M * cruser I am getting the same as yesterday :( 1176814215 M * daniel_hozac okay, i'll build a test version. 1176814323 M * cruser I will try 2.6.18-1.2255.fc5.vs2.0.2.2.0.rc9.1.i686 1176814370 M * daniel_hozac well, i think that was pruned from the repo now. 1176814535 M * cruser yes, I just tried yuming it. 1176814678 M * cruser I was there a few weeks ago, as I put it on a test box. 1176814830 M * daniel_hozac yes, but i only keep 2 kernels around for each distribution. 1176814875 M * cruser I was migrating our development box to use vserver. Vserver is used on our production (hosted) web server and we like it. Do you have any suggestions? 1176814947 M * daniel_hozac and this P4 is too old to use the x86_64 kernel? 1176815094 M * cruser Do you mean is the P4 a 64 bit? 1176815197 M * daniel_hozac exactly. 1176815254 M * cruser I assumed it wasn't but I will find out for sure. 1176815279 M * daniel_hozac grep lm /proc/cpuinfo 1176815405 M * cruser ~ # grep lm /proc/cpuinfo 1176815406 M * cruser flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe nx lm constant_tsc pni monitor ds_cpl est tm2 cid cx16 xtpr lahf_lm 1176815408 M * cruser flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe nx lm constant_tsc pni monitor ds_cpl est tm2 cid cx16 xtpr lahf_lm 1176815453 M * daniel_hozac so, looks like it is. 1176815482 M * cruser looks greek to me :) what is it? 1176815485 M * sid3windr lm = emt64 ? 1176815488 M * daniel_hozac yep 1176815494 M * daniel_hozac and amd64. 1176815495 M * sid3windr aha. 1176815498 M * daniel_hozac short for long mode. 1176815511 M * sid3windr that explains 1176815518 M * sid3windr now I know how to identify those 1176815524 M * sid3windr I don't think all my boxen are 1176815524 M * sid3windr hehe 1176815528 M * sid3windr but they all run 32bit os's 1176815530 M * daniel_hozac hehe. 1176815635 M * phedny cool, I didn't know that 1176815665 M * daniel_hozac i just learned that on this channel a couple of weeks ago :) 1176815768 M * Rich_Estill Is there a guide on how to patch a fedora kernel. I am pretty good at a vanilla kernel, but patching the fedora src.rpm is different. 1176815782 M * cruser dhozac: this is a pentium processor 1176815793 M * daniel_hozac cruser: yeah, a 64-bit one :) 1176815810 M * daniel_hozac Rich_Estill: how do you mean? 1176815897 M * daniel_hozac cruser: i'd suggest you go with the x86_64 kernel, and see if that works. 1176815921 M * daniel_hozac should give you a slight performance boost too, if you run a 64-bit userspace. 1176815926 M * cruser Never done that. Should I reinstall fedora? 1176815929 M * Rich_Estill When I apply the patch to a src.rpm that I installed on my FC5 box, patch is asking me which files to replace. When I do the same command on a vanilla kernel, I don't get those quesitons. 1176815941 M * Rich_Estill For example..... 1176815948 M * daniel_hozac cruser: yeah, you'll need the x86_64 version. 1176816001 M * daniel_hozac Rich_Estill: hmm? 1176816008 M * daniel_hozac Rich_Estill: what patch are you trying to apply? 1176816015 M * daniel_hozac Rich_Estill: and how are you applying it? 1176816020 J * derjohn2 ~aj@e180201241.adsl.alicedsl.de 1176816020 M * daniel_hozac Rich_Estill: to what kernel? 1176816022 M * daniel_hozac etc. 1176816041 M * Rich_Estill I installed the source rpm for 2312, and I would like to apply the patch to /usr/src/kernels/2.6.20-4(blah)2312 1176816052 M * daniel_hozac "the patch"? 1176816061 M * Rich_Estill the diff 1176816072 M * daniel_hozac yes, but _which_ diff. 1176816094 M * Rich_Estill vs2.2.0 1176816112 M * daniel_hozac well, you know it doesn't apply cleanly, right? 1176816120 M * daniel_hozac and that there are hunks missing that you have to fix yourself? 1176816126 M * Rich_Estill I know now that I tried it. ;) 1176816131 M * Rich_Estill Ahhh 1176816142 M * daniel_hozac any particular reason you're not using my RPMs? 1176816210 M * Rich_Estill I use them now, but sometimes when I do yum updates, the kernel from fedora is one step ahead. I like to have the most up to date for other projects I work on. 1176816266 M * daniel_hozac well, most of the time, i'm more up to date than Fedora ;) 1176816287 M * Rich_Estill I do appretiate that, ty. 1176816383 M * daniel_hozac when they do fast pushes though, i'll obviously lag a bit. 1176816435 M * cruser dhozac: If we go 64 on our development box we are worried that libraries will not match on our 32 bit production box. 1176816448 M * Rich_Estill I understand you have a limited amount of time. I guess to revise my question, is there a script that will allow me to patch the fedora kernel? 1176816504 M * daniel_hozac cruser: do your hosts have to be absolutely compatible? 1176816513 M * daniel_hozac cruser: note that you can still run your guests as 32-bit. 1176816545 M * daniel_hozac Rich_Estill: well, you should be able to work something out based on my CVS stuff. 1176816577 M * Rich_Estill ok, I'll get crack'in. 1176816605 M * daniel_hozac i.e. i usually just do make -s merge | tee update.sh; bash update.sh; rm -f update.sh to sync the latest kernel. 1176816626 M * daniel_hozac (after running cvs -z3 update -d in my Fedora CVS checkout) 1176816669 M * Rich_Estill ok, that makes sense. 1176816701 M * daniel_hozac still have to update the sources manually though, as i'm using a slightly different format. 1176816735 M * cruser dhozac: we are running a apache, mysql and php. I do not know if they have to be absolutely compatible. 1176816748 M * daniel_hozac cruser: on the hosts? 1176816762 M * daniel_hozac as i said, you can still run 32-bit guests. 1176816831 M * cruser I will need to research. In the mean time I guess I can see if the box will run using the 64 bit kernel. 1176816925 J * jep ~jpduyx@adsl-228-22.dsl.uva.nl 1176817062 J * Milf0438 ~Miranda@146.140.252.55 1176817093 M * Milf0438 Heidiho 1176817113 Q * cdrx Read error: Connection reset by peer 1176817206 M * blizz Koffa, yes, py 2.5 is available, but stuff like django and other libraries will only install into the 2.4 site-packages dir 1176817210 M * blizz afaik 1176817422 Q * derjohn2 Remote host closed the connection 1176817510 Q * sharkjaw Quit: Leaving 1176817860 M * bXi should sound work in a vserver? 1176817868 M * cruser dhozac: do you see a vserver solution for me using a 32bit kernel in the next few days? 1176817884 M * daniel_hozac cruser: i'm already building a test kernel. 1176817902 M * daniel_hozac bXi: define "sound". 1176818005 M * cruser dhozac: Would you like me to test it? 1176818012 M * daniel_hozac once it's built ;) 1176818084 J * cdrx ~legoater@blueice2n1.uk.ibm.com 1176818108 M * cruser I will stay on irc today and tomorrow, give me a shout, thanks. 1176818133 M * harry wiiiiiii... 3 more machines running 2.6.19.7-g-v atm! ;) 1176819837 Q * michal` Quit: upgrade 1176821240 J * kir_home ~kir@65.91.54.2 1176821466 J * dreamind ~dreamind@C2107.campino.wh.tu-darmstadt.de 1176822132 Q * dreamind Quit: dreamind 1176822415 Q * cdrx Read error: Connection reset by peer 1176822479 J * dreamind ~dreamind@C2107.campino.wh.tu-darmstadt.de 1176822524 J * ktwilight_ ~ktwilight@89.100-66-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be 1176822572 M * daniel_hozac cruser: http://daniel.hozac.com/tmp/kernel-smp-2.6.20-1.2312.fc5.vs2.2.0.1.i686.rpm 1176822658 M * cruser thanks. I will try now. 1176822799 Q * kir_home Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1176822935 Q * ktwilight Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1176823184 Q * Milf0438 Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org 1176823279 M * cruser dhozac: Sorry, I've never added a kernel by rpm. Will rpm -i do it all, change menu.lst and not overwrite anything? 1176823303 M * daniel_hozac rpm -e the one you have, then rpm -i that one. 1176823317 M * daniel_hozac i.e. rpm -e kernel-smp-2.6.20-1.2312.fc5.vs2.2.0.1 1176823328 M * daniel_hozac (if you still have it installed, that is) 1176823333 M * daniel_hozac if not, rpm -i should suffice. 1176823336 M * cruser thanks 1176823461 M * slack101 daniel_hozac: now its a new day for me 1176823559 M * cruser dhozac: ~ # uname -r 1176823561 M * cruser 2.6.20-1.2312.fc5.vs2.2.0.1smp 1176823565 J * stefani ~stefani@tsipoor.banerian.org 1176823584 M * cruser That did it. Thank you. 1176823681 M * cruser dhozac: Should I keep this kernel? Or wait for a more "official" version. 1176823712 M * daniel_hozac really? that one works? 1176823720 M * daniel_hozac that sucks... 1176823744 M * daniel_hozac how much RAM do you have? 1176823797 M * daniel_hozac that kernel should be fine to keep, but the next build will have the unfortunate "fix". 1176823867 M * cruser 2 gig. Why does it s..? 1176823958 M * daniel_hozac i disabled an optimization for systems with 2 GiB RAM or less. 1176824023 M * daniel_hozac i.e. i used a 2/2 memory split rather than the default 3/1. 1176824034 M * cruser :( sorry bout that. Will it be disabled for the offical vserver kernel? 1176824049 M * daniel_hozac yeah, i really thought this was a safe change. 1176824066 M * daniel_hozac but if it's breaking stuff, i'll have to revert it. 1176824093 M * daniel_hozac too bad. most of my systems have 2 GiB RAM ;) 1176824126 M * daniel_hozac (or at least more than the 1 GiB RAM which is the limit now) 1176824161 M * cruser the limit of the optimization? 1176824167 M * daniel_hozac the limit of kernel space. 1176824178 J * phedny_ ~mark@ip56538143.direct-adsl.nl 1176824188 M * daniel_hozac anything more than 1 GiB RAM will be HIGHMEM, which is more costly (performance wise) to use. 1176824214 M * daniel_hozac i do find it odd though that it works fine without the changed split. 1176824247 M * phedny_ hmm, I just got this when issuing vserver-stat: 1176824250 M * phedny_ http://paste.linux-vserver.org/1450 1176824268 M * daniel_hozac phedny_: upgrade. 1176824274 M * daniel_hozac phedny_: should be fixed in 2.2.0. 1176824289 M * phedny_ Linux meloen 2.6.20.2-vs2.2.0-rc17 #3 Thu Mar 15 19:15:16 CET 2007 i686 GNU/Linux 1176824311 M * harry that's rc17, not the release :) 1176824325 M * phedny_ owh, there is a non-rc version :) 1176824328 M * harry rcX's tend to have some errors :) 1176824332 M * harry yes... it's a release! 1176824338 M * harry all hail vserver people!!! ;) 1176824350 M * daniel_hozac it was released over two weeks ago... 1176824356 M * phedny_ but still I wonder: how can this suddenly be here, while it never was before? 1176824368 M * daniel_hozac it's a race. 1176824372 M * daniel_hozac sometimes it happens, sometimes it doesn't. 1176824392 M * phedny_ could this somehow bring down an entire server? 1176824415 M * daniel_hozac yes, we've had reports of it locking up systems. 1176824416 M * phedny_ as I'm having misterious server lockups when running one particular vserver 1176824440 M * phedny_ okay, then I'll start an upgrade as soon as possible :) 1176824476 M * cruser dhozac: Thank you for your help. Our dev box will be a verser one! 1176824492 M * daniel_hozac thank _you_ for testing! 1176824525 M * cruser I gives confidence to have had you there :) 1176824560 M * daniel_hozac i'd still urge you to try the 64-bit kernel though. you'll get some extra performance, with the extra registers and as you avoid the HIGHMEM problem. 1176824590 M * cruser Let me talk with my boss. Thanks. 1176824642 M * daniel_hozac (it also gives you greater flexibility when it comes to guests, as you have the ability to run both 64 and 32 bit on the same host) 1176824693 M * cruser My concern is compatibilty with our production server. 1176824747 M * daniel_hozac well, as i said, you can still run 32-bit guests. compatibility problems would only occur on the host. 1176824800 M * cruser Okay. I need to get my head around that. Thanks again. I have to step out for an appointment. 1176824808 P * cruser 1176824809 M * daniel_hozac okay, thanks again for the report! 1176824837 P * jep 1176825105 J * cdrx ~legoater@cap31-3-82-227-199-249.fbx.proxad.net 1176825107 J * toidinamai__ ~frank@180.236.80.212.static.versanetonline.de 1176825532 Q * toidinamai_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1176825742 Q * lilalinux Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1176826724 M * Rich_Estill What is the difference between the kernel sources in /usr/src/redhat/kernel-2.6.20/linux-2.6.20 and the vanilla kernel? (Other than the .config) 1176827485 Q * Nam Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1176827529 M * daniel_hozac all of the patches? 1176827689 J * boci^ ~boci@pool-6102.adsl.interware.hu 1176827722 M * Rich_Estill OK. Thats what I was wondering. 1176828097 J * bzed ~bzed@dslb-084-059-098-185.pools.arcor-ip.net 1176828215 Q * tokkee Read error: Connection reset by peer 1176828660 J * cruser ~chatzilla@72.242.194.162 1176828923 J * onox ~onox@kalfjeslab.demon.nl 1176828938 Q * Piet Remote host closed the connection 1176828979 Q * SoftIce Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1176828985 J * Piet hiddenserv@tor.noreply.org 1176829036 M * slack101 man 1176829046 M * slack101 this still not working and i have done everything it said 1176829061 M * slack101 daniel_hozac: anyway i can specify right to the .deb i want ? 1176829068 M * daniel_hozac what? 1176829079 M * daniel_hozac what exactly have you done? 1176829141 M * slack101 still tryng to installl Debian 1176829193 M * slack101 00:51:07 ERROR 404: Not Found. 1176829193 M * slack101 ERROR: Could not download the debootstrap package from 1176829208 M * slack101 etc etc .......they added an extra 3 in the name 1176829212 Q * Piet Remote host closed the connection 1176829212 M * daniel_hozac and what URL did you put in the uri file? 1176829229 M * slack101 one right to the .deb 1176829255 M * daniel_hozac well, obviously not as it gives a 404. 1176829283 M * slack101 http://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/d/debootstrap/debootstrap_0.3.3.3_all.deb 1176829305 M * slack101 vservers/.defaults/debootstrap/uri 1176829387 M * daniel_hozac so you ran echo http://... > /etc/vservers/.defaults/apps/debootstrap/uri, right? 1176829444 M * slack101 well i made the file and put it in their myself 1176829480 M * daniel_hozac so cat /etc/vservers/.defaults/apps/debootstrap/uri returns what? 1176829486 M * daniel_hozac use paste.linux-vserver.org. 1176829550 M * Hollow shouldn't that be apps/debootstrap.uri instead of apps/debootstrap/uri? 1176829626 M * daniel_hozac no. 1176829633 M * daniel_hozac debootstrap.uri is in PKGLIBDEFAULTDIR. 1176830521 M * slack101 so what do i do :( lol 1176830534 M * slack101 http://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/d/debootstrap/debootstrap_0.3.3.3_all.deb 1176830542 M * slack101 thats all what in the uri file 1176830546 Q * ema Quit: leaving 1176830558 M * daniel_hozac have you tried running the echo above? 1176830871 M * slack101 I: Retrieving Release 1176830871 M * slack101 E: Invalid Release file, no entry for main/binary-GenuineIntel/Packages 1176830879 M * slack101 oh the fun 1176830889 N * DoberMann[PullA] DoberMann 1176830893 M * daniel_hozac slack101: so, use ARCH=i386 or -- --arch i386 1176830903 M * daniel_hozac slack101: that's only because your uname is weird. 1176830936 M * slack101 uname? 1176831057 M * daniel_hozac yes. 1176831060 M * daniel_hozac uname -a 1176831105 Q * ruskie Remote host closed the connection 1176831190 M * slack101 vserver myguest45 build -m debootstrap --context 1253 --hostname debian --interface eth0:xx.xx.xx.xxx/24 -- -d etch --arch i386 -m http://ftp.au.debian.org/debian/ 1176831206 M * daniel_hozac no 1176831209 M * daniel_hozac -- --arch i386 1176831213 M * daniel_hozac at the very end. 1176831217 J * drcode ~gadido30@87.69.58.100.cable.012.net.il 1176831223 M * drcode hi all 1176831235 M * daniel_hozac hello 1176831240 M * drcode this project can I use it to repace VM esx? 1176831243 M * slack101 vserver myguest45 build -m debootstrap --context 1253 --hostname debian --interface eth0:69.64.59.246/24 -- -d etch -m http://ftp.au.debian.org/debian/ -- --arch i386 1176831248 M * slack101 f* 1176831275 M * daniel_hozac drcode: depends on what you're using it for. if you have nothing but Linux guests, you might be able to. 1176831276 M * eyck drcode: vserver is faster then esx, but then, it's linux-only 1176831283 J * ruskie ruskie@goatse.co.uk 1176831296 M * drcode I see 1176831303 M * drcode I can't install windows guest? 1176831317 M * daniel_hozac as it's OS-level virtualization/isolation, no. 1176831318 M * slack101 Lindows? 1176831335 M * drcode k 1176831383 M * slack101 /usr/lib/util-vserver/vserver-build: unrecognized option `--arch' 1176831392 M * slack101 it gets beter n better 1176831404 M * daniel_hozac slack101: and you added the -- --arch i386 at the _very_ end? 1176831445 M * slack101 (01:33:33 PM) daniel_hozac: -- --arch i386 1176831445 M * slack101 (01:33:37 PM) daniel_hozac: at the very end. 1176831553 M * daniel_hozac well, your command works fine here. 1176831562 M * daniel_hozac so... 1176831577 M * slack101 lol? 1176831579 M * slack101 wow 1176831607 M * bXi daniel_hozac: sound == can i play music in a vserver 1176831616 M * daniel_hozac bXi: to what? 1176831631 M * bXi eh? 1176831638 M * slack101 btw typo 1176831640 M * slack101 works fine 1176831655 M * daniel_hozac bXi: where do you want the sound to go? 1176831706 M * bXi the soundcard? 1176831731 M * daniel_hozac so have you copied the devices to the guest? 1176831751 J * Piet hiddenserv@tor.noreply.org 1176831751 M * bXi nope i dont have a clue if its possible or where to start looking for this 1176831769 M * daniel_hozac well, i don't see a problem. 1176831780 M * daniel_hozac other than the potential attack vector that ALSA poses. 1176831796 M * daniel_hozac but simply copying the necessary devices to the guest should do the trick. 1176831807 Q * dreamind Quit: dreamind 1176831840 M * bXi ln -s /dev/dsp /vservers/dev/dsp ? 1176831843 M * bXi something like that 1176831876 Q * drcode Quit: Leaving 1176831880 M * daniel_hozac that'd be a symlink to itself. 1176831905 M * daniel_hozac you'd want to actually copy the device node, i.e. cp -a /dev/dsp /vservers//Dev 1176831910 M * daniel_hozac s/D/d/ 1176831911 M * bXi ah 1176831919 M * bXi i'll try this 1176831924 M * bXi i have this slowass laptop 1176831944 M * bXi and i use nxserver inside a vserver 1176831950 M * bXi remote desktop stuff 1176831955 M * bXi i just need sound now 1176831961 M * bXi and i got a perfectly good usable laptop 1176831971 M * daniel_hozac so you want the sound to play on the nxserver? 1176831982 M * daniel_hozac that sounds like it might defeat the purpose somewhat. 1176832103 M * bXi i need to have a sound device for nxserver 1176833107 Q * chand Quit: chand 1176833246 P * boci^ Távozom 1176833785 M * onox what cron are you using? 1176835541 M * mjt hmm. Either I'm blind or something's wrong. capset() to remove some privs (as root), exec -> and all the caps are restored back. Wtf? Anyone expirienced that? 1176835567 M * mjt (it's NOT vserver-related) 1176835852 Q * Greek0 Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1176835884 M * mjt i wonder if this whole capability machinery is broken in vanilla kernel but has been restored in vserver patches 1176835914 M * mjt because on vserver-patched kernel, this stuff works (almost) as intended. 1176835986 Q * Piet Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1176836020 J * Piet hiddenserv@tor.noreply.org 1176836299 J * duckx ~Duck@tox.dyndns.org 1176836564 M * daniel_hozac mjt: did you set all of the caps? 1176836764 M * mjt before exec: 1176836765 M * mjt capability effective: chown 1176836765 M * mjt capability permitted: chown 1176836765 M * mjt capability inheritable: chown 1176836769 M * mjt after exec: 1176836777 M * mjt eff, perm = full set 1176836780 M * mjt capability inheritable: chown 1176836828 M * mjt that's capset(eff=perm=inh=cap_chown), capget()+print, exec, capget+print 1176836828 M * daniel_hozac hmm, okay... 1176836843 M * mjt the same happens with prctl(KEEPCAPS,1) 1176836857 M * mjt and hmm.. it's the same in vserver too 1176836865 M * mjt but again, it's NOT related to vserver itself. 1176836893 M * mjt i just thought i'd ask here because I know there are people out here who know this stuff... 1176836978 M * mjt i'm writing a program that does all that stuff at once -- setuid, chroot, caps, resource limits, newnamespace... -- current version is http://www.corpit.ru/mjt/newenv.c (searching for a better name ;) 1176837002 M * mjt because all that stuff is related and can't really be done by separate programs 1176837010 M * mjt ..unfortunately ;) 1176837026 M * daniel_hozac util-vserver seems to do it quite alright... 1176837069 M * mjt well. maybe in context of vserver "containers", yes 1176837095 M * mjt for example, chrootuid or similar stuff has been written several times already 1176837111 M * mjt because you can't chroot and su, as there's no su in chroot ;) 1176837123 M * mjt and you can't su and chroot, -- EPERM 1176837128 M * mjt and so on 1176837155 M * mjt you can't set ulimits and su -- in particular, RLIM_NPROC applies to current real uid 1176837285 M * mjt # /usr/lib/util-vserver/capchroot --nochroot / ./a.out -v 1176837285 M * mjt capchroot: vc_new_s_context(): Function not implemented 1176837290 M * mjt # uname -a 1176837290 M * mjt Linux gate.corpit.ru 2.6.19-i686vs #2.6.19.7-grsec2.1.10-vs2.2.0 SMP Wed Apr 4 18:50:48 MSD 2007 i686 GNU/Linux 1176837303 M * mjt so it doesn't quite work, either ;) 1176837312 M * daniel_hozac capchroot is a legacy program. 1176837319 M * daniel_hozac do you have the legacy APIs in your kernel? 1176837326 M * mjt aha. nope 1176838657 M * mjt wug. Kernel restores all the caps at exec if new uid==0 1176838673 M * mjt (all the caps = effective+permitted) 1176838705 M * mjt "to allow setuid binaries to work"... 1176838871 Q * yang Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1176838887 J * yang ~yang@cpe-213-157-253-172.dynamic.amis.net 1176838997 J * Aiken ~james@121.45.214.105 1176839217 Q * toidinamai__ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1176839293 A * mjt sends out email to LKML... 1176840007 J * Nam ~nam@S0106001195551ff0.va.shawcable.net 1176840228 M * bXi daniel_hozac: doh i forgot this box i need sound on doesnt have any sound devices -_ 1176840234 M * bXi -_- 1176840248 M * bXi its a dell poweredge sc1425 1u box 1176840344 M * sid3windr :p 1176840374 Q * TheSeer Quit: Client exiting 1176840582 Q * phedny_ Quit: kernel upgrade 1176840638 J * bonbons ~bonbons@83.222.38.145 1176840704 J * phedny_ ~mark@ip56538143.direct-adsl.nl 1176840778 M * ex bxi, you can use alsa+pulseaudio plugin on guest, and pulseaudio daemon on host 1176840785 M * matti :-) 1176840830 M * ex you can even have several vservers with sound support (pulseaudio support automagic mixing :) 1176840850 M * sid3windr cool 1176840887 M * matti Can somebody advice some tools or technique that will allows me to investigate why machine is getting very high load average without a reason? Tools like: vmstat, etc. Maybe there's something which may become handy and I didn't know it... :/ 1176840913 M * ex bXi, and if this dell box dont have sound card, you can export audio to your home box :P 1176840914 Q * Nam Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1176840914 Q * phedny Quit: leaving 1176840925 M * bXi ex: thats what i'm trying 1176840932 M * bXi but trying to get this to work trough NX client 1176840935 N * phedny_ phedny 1176841063 M * bXi meaning that wherever i use NX to login to my box that i will have sound 1176841072 M * ex matti, you can use monit (http://www.tildeslash.com/monit/) and try catch high load with some exec command (ps auxww > file) or sth 1176841118 M * ex matti, also use sysstat (sar), it can record cpu/io activity 1176841186 M * matti ex: I do not have a clue, why this machine is getting load like 20-30 just without any reason. 1176841203 M * bXi matti: does it feel like its having a load of 20-30? 1176841214 M * Borg- sid3windr: cannot connect to your cacti.. down or filtered? 1176841226 M * sid3windr are you spying on me? :P 1176841248 M * matti bXi: Yes 1176841251 M * sid3windr thanks for the notice 1176841252 A * sid3windr checks 1176841252 J * phedny_ ~mark@ip56538143.direct-adsl.nl 1176841269 Q * phedny Read error: Connection reset by peer 1176841275 M * sid3windr fuck 1176841275 N * phedny_ phedny 1176841279 M * sid3windr i've lost another vserver 1176841284 M * sid3windr have no idea on what machine it is running. 1176841290 M * Borg- hum.. not good 1176841296 M * phedny apparently 2.6.20.4-vs2.2.0 did not solve my problem :) 1176841328 M * daniel_hozac phedny: oh? 1176841335 M * bXi matti: then i dont know 1176841393 M * daniel_hozac matti: vps doesn't show anything? 1176841398 M * daniel_hozac matti: nor vtop? 1176841411 M * matti daniel_hozac: This is not yet a vserver host. 1176841416 M * phedny daniel_hozac: server just had a lockup again 1176841417 M * matti daniel_hozac: Just usual machine. 1176841426 M * phedny daniel_hozac: but I'm going to bed .. more work on it tomorrow 1176841433 M * daniel_hozac phedny: any trace? 1176841441 M * phedny no 1176841462 M * phedny I don't have a monitor on the server 1176841473 M * phedny and serial console is disconnected as nothing was printed on lockup 1176841473 M * daniel_hozac serial console ;) 1176841490 M * daniel_hozac well, then it's not the issue that's fixed in 2.2.0 1176841497 M * phedny :) 1176841524 M * daniel_hozac tried magic sysrq? 1176841559 M * phedny I don't really know what that is :) 1176841591 M * daniel_hozac might want to look at Documentation/sysrq.txt then ;) 1176841603 M * daniel_hozac if _that_ doesn't work either, i'm inclined to blame hardware. 1176841621 M * phedny will do that tomorrow :) 1176841682 M * sid3windr Borg-: machine looks broken, don't get anything on serial console either :( 1176841706 M * Borg- sid3windr: uh.. :| 1176841842 J * DavidS ~david@chello062178045213.16.11.tuwien.teleweb.at 1176841950 Q * waldi Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1176842111 Q * yang Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1176842143 J * yang ~yang@cpe-213-157-253-172.dynamic.amis.net 1176842341 Q * softi42 Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1176842478 J * yarihm ~yarihm@84-75-103-239.dclient.hispeed.ch 1176843060 J * softi42 ~softi@p549D73A8.dip.t-dialin.net 1176843359 Q * cruser Quit: Chatzilla 0.9.77 [Firefox 2.0.0.2/2007021917] 1176845327 J * Aiken_ ~james@121.45.222.137 1176845372 Q * meandtheshel1 Quit: Leaving. 1176845676 Q * Aiken Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1176845910 Q * bonbons Quit: Leaving 1176846196 Q * DavidS Quit: Leaving. 1176846755 J * tanjix ~tanjix@office.star-hosting.de 1176846758 M * tanjix hello together 1176846793 M * tanjix the kernel 2.6.18-4-vserver-686 under debian etch does not support my server with 4 gb ram 1176846798 M * tanjix only showing 3gb 1176846804 M * tanjix any hints? 1176846886 N * DoberMann DoberMann[ZZZzzz] 1176846959 N * DoberMann[ZZZzzz] DoberMann[PullA] 1176846962 N * DoberMann[PullA] DoberMann[ZZZzzz] 1176847115 M * daniel_hozac tried the -smp kernel? 1176847139 M * daniel_hozac sounds very strange though. you sure it has 4 GiB of addressable RAM? 1176847251 M * tanjix yes, i am sure 1176847261 M * tanjix smp support is there as all cpus are recognized 1176847269 M * tanjix just missing 1gb ram 1176847276 M * daniel_hozac and it's 1 GiB exactly? 1176847285 M * tanjix yes 1176847299 M * tanjix Mem: 3026 1176847303 M * tanjix 40xx should be 1176847358 M * tanjix btw daniel_hozac, can you remember the tty problem? 1176847372 M * daniel_hozac which tty problem? 1176847397 M * tanjix that i got an error when running /etc/init.d/vservers start - it told me tty8: no such device 1176847401 M * tanjix although it was there 1176847406 M * daniel_hozac ah 1176847420 M * tanjix it seemed to be a hardware related issue 1176847428 M * tanjix we changed the server with another one and it worked then 1176847441 M * tanjix don't kow what the problem was :( 1176847448 M * tanjix s/kow/know 1176847847 Q * dna Quit: Verlassend 1176848284 Q * yarihm Quit: Leaving 1176848560 M * tanjix any hints i could do regarding the ram problem? 1176849013 M * doener tanjix: might be a hardware limitation 1176849280 J * RungeKutta ~OMGLOLRK@dsl093-016-075.msp1.dsl.speakeasy.net 1176849355 M * doener tanjix: there was a thread on this on lkml yesterday: http://lkml.org/lkml/2007/4/16/132 1176849357 M * RungeKutta Hi, I've got a problem with, I think, bind-mounting. I'm trying to mount my main /home into /home on both of my vservers. I'm not even sure what I'm doing wrong, so if someone could point me in the correct direction that would be cool. 1176849391 M * doener RungeKutta: after the vserver is started, you'll have to change into their namespace to have the mount appear there 1176849405 M * doener or, you can just add the bind mount to the vserver's fstab 1176849425 M * doener the former works like this: vnamespace -e $VSERVER mount --bind /home /vservers/$VSERVER/home 1176849450 M * RungeKutta I tried the vnamespace one, but I think I had the mount-point wrong 1176849468 J * toidinamai__ ~frank@180.236.80.212.static.versanetonline.de 1176849470 M * doener the latter works like an usual fstab entry with "bind" as options and the first path relative to the host's / and the second path relative to the vserver's / 1176849485 M * RungeKutta Which fstab would I add it to? the one inside the vserver's root or the one located at /etc/vservers/VSERVERNAME/fstab 1176849493 M * doener so in your case that should be: /home /home auto bind 0 0 1176849496 M * doener (IIRC) 1176849516 M * doener the latter 1176849551 M * RungeKutta ok, I'll give it a shot 1176849587 M * RungeKutta haha, I think I know what's wrong with the fstab I altered earlier 1176849605 M * RungeKutta I think I altered the one I havent messed with yet, not the one I've been trying to work with :P 1176849619 M * doener heh :) 1176849689 M * RungeKutta yup that seemed to work 1176849694 M * RungeKutta thank you 1176849700 M * doener you're welcome 1176850707 P * stefani I'm Parting (the water) 1176850776 M * tanjix doener: i do not think it is hardwar related 1176850795 M * tanjix with another kernel (not the vserver one from etch) i see full 4gb 1176851349 M * doener did you compare the configurations? 1176852555 J * Nam ~nam@S0106001195551ff0.va.shawcable.net 1176854255 Q * onox Quit: :w