1176681651 M * Bertl_vV yep, Hollow's server went offline :(
1176681864 M * jkl any idea where I could snatch a kernel image from while it's down?
1176682177 Q * jkl Quit: installing 3ware controller
1176682297 M * Bertl_vV kernel image?
1176683592 M * Solver maybe he meant kernel patch
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1176704923 J * Hollow ~Hollow@i577B616D.versanet.de
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1176706301 J * dna ~naucki@246-222-dsl.kielnet.net
1176708110 J * slack101 ~me@cpe-71-74-86-207.insight.res.rr.com
1176708127 M * slack101 back once again
1176708211 M * slack101 i think debian is the best server distro
1176708341 J * cdrx ~legoater@blueice1n1.uk.ibm.com
1176708670 Q * Hollow Quit: Konversation terminated!
1176708876 J * jolie- ~sdsa@85.101.200.174
1176708879 Q * jolie- Excess Flood
1176710390 J * bzed ~bzed@dslb-084-059-108-253.pools.arcor-ip.net
1176712570 Q * rob-84x^ Read error: Connection reset by peer
1176712860 J * AndrewLee ~andrew@flat.iis.sinica.edu.tw
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1176715109 J * denzs ~denzs@carbon.gonicus.de
1176715223 M * denzs hi, i want to use dhcp client in my vservers, i have already set NET_RAW,NET_ADMIN and NET_BROADCAST in /etc/vserver/$VSERVER/bcapabilities but i get "Cant bind to dhcp address: Cannot assign requested address"....any ideas?
1176715262 M * daniel_hozac did you make the guest unlimited?
1176715402 J * Piet hiddenserv@tor.noreply.org
1176715485 Q * Aiken Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1176715583 M * harry 09:23 < slack101> i think debian is the best server distro
1176715587 M * harry HUH???
1176715597 M * harry you mean that distro that is WAAAAAAAAAAY too old!?
1176715621 M * harry as in: yes, we do releases... one release every 3/4 years
1176715638 M * harry the distro in which the stable release can't compile a kernel?
1176715644 M * harry because it's too old?
1176715655 M * harry that's "the best server distro"?
1176715663 M * harry freaky...
1176715716 M * daniel_hozac harry: you realize etch was released a week or so ago, right?
1176715722 M * harry nope :)
1176715728 M * harry did they release it???
1176715741 M * harry wasn't the initial release date supposed to be in 2006 somewhere?
1176715814 M * Borg- harry: calm down.. I dont like debian.... but delays in release is not what is (very) bad..
1176715823 M * Borg- quality of stuff is on first place
1176715848 M * Borg- s/on /on the /
1176715875 M * denzs what do you mean by unlimited?
1176715925 M * sid3windr 2 unlimited!
1176715934 M * Borg- howdy sid3windr 
1176715937 M * sid3windr moo
1176715938 M * Borg- sup w/ smoke ping?
1176715939 M * sid3windr debian > *
1176715939 M * harry Borg-: quality can be asured in other ways too
1176715944 M * harry check out redhat
1176715945 M * sid3windr I haven't had time to try it out :/
1176715955 M * harry they have stable releases, competent team
1176715963 M * Borg- harry: red hat? haha *haha ha ha* *insane laught*
1176715965 M * harry debian is a hippy distro... hippies don't work
1176715974 M * sid3windr harr, redhat =)
1176715989 M * sid3windr last rh I ran was 5.0
1176716005 M * sid3windr but anyway, it's very possible redhat works. they're paid for it :]
1176716007 M * harry centos if you prefer...
1176716015 M * sid3windr and they're nice in the way that they employ kernel hackers :)
1176716018 M * harry true, centos is the free RHAS :)
1176716030 M * harry plus: RH is free too ;)
1176716052 M * sid3windr I'll see your up2date with a synaptic!
1176716093 M * harry sid3windr: you compile a recent kernel with debian sarge
1176716104 M * harry which was the latest stable one week ago
1176716105 M * sid3windr then what? :)
1176716112 M * harry try it... you won't succeed
1176716115 M * sid3windr ehm
1176716115 M * Borg- the kernel simply dont boot
1176716118 M * harry it's too old!
1176716124 M * sid3windr I compiled 2.6.20.6 on sarge and it's working?
1176716126 M * harry mkay, with etch, there is a new one...
1176716132 M * Borg- debian is weird ;)
1176716140 M * harry sid3windr: now try adding grsec to that kernel and try again
1176716149 M * harry the adding won't be a problem
1176716150 M * sid3windr why would I want to at that disgraceful monster to my kernel? :P
1176716159 M * harry compiling either...but linking...
1176716164 M * sid3windr *add
1176716179 M * harry sid3windr: ever looked at it?
1176716199 M * sid3windr yes
1176716202 M * Borg- oh yeah.. good old paranoia... has struck everyone =)
1176716222 M * harry you may want to add that monster because the way kernels are programmed lately... THAT;s a disgrace
1176716239 M * harry if you say: one big happy internet family... everyone likes eachother
1176716243 M * harry then you don't need it
1176716255 M * sid3windr yes, but when the grsec guy is wondering what that 4th number in the kernel versioning has been in the last 8 months, I don't think I want to run his patches ;)
1176716261 M * harry if you get hacked because the kernel programmers made a biggy... you want that
1176716262 M * sid3windr if you don't like the linux kernel, replace it with another
1176716268 M * sid3windr don't add a hugeass patch to it :p
1176716275 J * Aiken ~james@ppp194-30.lns1.bne1.internode.on.net
1176716294 M * harry hugeass as in... smaller then the vserver patch ?
1176716306 M * harry which is a small patch?
1176716306 M * sid3windr yes! :)
1176716312 M * Borg- well.. still, there is no perfect kernel...
1176716321 M * Borg- Linux for SOHO routers is cool...
1176716321 M * harry do you konw an alternative to the linux kernel
1176716331 M * harry (don't start on bsd... because i know that's better)
1176716337 M * Borg- but I prefer FreeBSD/NetBSD for they stability.. and security
1176716357 M * sid3windr bsd :)
1176716365 M * harry 11:38 < harry> (don't start on bsd... because i know that's better)
1176716367 M * harry 11:39 < sid3windr> bsd :)
1176716377 M * sid3windr well what else should I be saying, if it was bsd I meant? :P
1176716379 M * harry hmm... i don't think a conversation with sid3windr is all that useful
1176716441 M * sid3windr sebiet sta ik aan uw deur jong!
1176716443 M * sid3windr :]
1176716444 M * Borg- harry: well.. go for OpenVMS ;) its very secure :)
1176716453 Q * denzs Quit: using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.12
1176716460 M * harry btw. you are wrong about the 11:37 < sid3windr> yes, but when the grsec guy is wondering what that 4th number in the kernel versioning has been in the last 8 months, I don't think I want
1176716476 M * harry sid3windr: tot subiet!
1176716480 M * sid3windr as I said, it was bsd I had in mind, so if you prohibit me from mentioning it I have nothing to say ;)
1176716491 M * sid3windr what is wrong about that statement? :)
1176716499 M * harry that it's not true
1176716522 M * sid3windr I read it in a post by spender on the grsec forum... :)
1176716536 M * harry that was irony :).. as in
1176716543 M * sid3windr irony does not exist! :)
1176716548 M * harry what the fuck are they doing with the kernel... what's that number for?
1176716558 M * sid3windr I guess he wasn't at fosdem :)
1176716562 M * harry the fact that they need it is... bad... really bad!
1176716562 M * sid3windr ANYWAY
1176716567 M * sid3windr it is time for us to go!
1176716575 M * sid3windr only 2 remote holes in 3 days!
1176716579 M * sid3windr bbl :)
1176716582 M * Borg- hehe
1176716615 M * harry ftp://ftp.belnet.be/mirrors/ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/ChangeLog-2.6.16.48
1176716617 M * Borg- harry: easy man.. you wont fix the world.. unless you will anihilate it first..
1176716625 M * harry if you need 48 revisions of a so called RELEASE kernel ???
1176716629 M * harry there is something wrong
1176716649 M * harry 2.6.16 was considered stable, you konw...
1176716677 M * Borg- there is no stable statement in 2.6 line anymore
1176716692 M * Borg- not in normal understanding of that word ;)
1176716783 M * harry that's why i enhance security, make exploitation "nontrivial" with grsec
1176716793 M * harry plus: i've seen the code... it's decent code!
1176716799 M * harry especially the pax part
1176716817 M * harry spenders.... not so good, but not bad either :)
1176716836 M * harry at least it's better than what the mainline programmers make of it
1176717337 J * lilalinux ~plasma@80.69.41.3
1176717638 Q * DavidS Remote host closed the connection
1176717903 M * blizz do the util-vserver Makefiles have targets for deb-creation?
1176717928 M * blizz i figure that 4.0 doenst have 2.2.0 :-)
1176717935 M * blizz err
1176717936 M * blizz 0.30.212
1176718254 M * daniel_hozac it does.
1176718260 M * daniel_hozac at least, it should.
1176718293 M * blizz anyway, it just came to my mind that i would like to have 0.30.213-latest
1176718334 M * daniel_hozac trunk doesn't have any Debian build scripts.
1176718376 M * blizz i see.. maybe the debian/ubuntu guys have patches (they usually do)
1176718444 M * blizz http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/u/util-vserver/util-vserver_0.30.212-1.diff.gz that's it. maybe it'll work on the latest-Makefile :P
1176718475 M * blizz hum, seems like it only add files (the debian directory)
1176718476 M * Guy- blizz: util-vserver development versions usually compile without trouble if you just lift over the debian/ subdirectory from a debian source
1176718498 M * blizz that's great
1176718524 M * blizz i experienced deb-src, build-deb and dpkg-buildpackage the first time yesterday. pretty interesting
1176718532 M * blizz *build-deps
1176718581 M * daniel_hozac there's just one patch, and it doesn't make sense.
1176718614 M * blizz hm?
1176718750 M * daniel_hozac it changes an error message to something that doesn't correspond with reality.
1176718824 M * Guy- daniel_hozac: did you file a bug report against the debian package? or tell the author of the patch? perhaps they don't know
1176718962 M * daniel_hozac yes, i discussed it with micah the last time we went through all of the patches in the debian package.
1176719106 Q * shedi Quit: Leaving
1176719580 M * beuss guys website is down
1176719593 M * beuss and database connection informations are shown to everyone
1176719649 M * Koffa krhm
1176719667 M * Guy- uh, indeed
1176719688 M * Guy- I guess that's a password that needs to be changed, and no mistake
1176719702 M * Koffa I'd get beaten purple here (@work) if I did smth like that ;)
1176719734 M * Guy- I guess Hollow will have to settle for beating himself up :)
1176719737 M * daniel_hozac mediawiki doesn't seem to handle exceptions very well :)
1176719752 M * beuss indeed
1176719764 M * Guy- isn't this a php problem?
1176719778 M * beuss I guess there is a debug switch turned on in mediawiki config file
1176719781 M * Guy- I thought you could set it up so it doesn't show the user the stack trace 
1176719801 M * beuss Guy-: that's a mediawiki stacktrace not a php one
1176719825 M * Guy- OK, but I thought it was generated by php
1176719869 M * Guy- I mean, mediawiki is just a bunch of php scripts; I wouldn't have expected it to implement stack traces on its own
1176719902 M * beuss I don't know
1176720261 M * Koffa it might obey the php-settings even if it had?
1176720312 M * Koffa displayerrors = off    in php.ini or smth like that
1176720317 Q * derjohn Remote host closed the connection
1176720323 M * Koffa (been a while since I've played with php)
1176720397 N * DoberMann[PullA] DoberMann[gadoue]
1176720666 J * derjohn ~derjohn@80.69.41.3
1176721367 J * dna_ ~naucki@19-236-dsl.kielnet.net
1176721755 Q * dna Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1176721783 J * baldy baldy@pptp.dial.ipv6-network.de
1176721785 M * baldy hi
1176721788 M * baldy website down? :(
1176721836 M * baldy ayn1 have a link fot the 2-6-20-4 patch?
1176721967 M * daniel_hozac http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Experimental/patch-2.6.20.4-vs2.2.0.diff
1176722776 M * blizz what was the difference between primary and secondary addresses in `ip addr` again?
1176722814 M * daniel_hozac depending on your kernel settings, the secondaries will vanish when the primary does.
1176722835 M * ex daniel_hozac, when you remove primary all secondaries are removed also
1176722862 M * blizz i see! how can i change a primary address to a secondary one?
1176722875 M * daniel_hozac ex: isn't that was i said?
1176722902 M * ex yes, sorry
1176722904 M * blizz i think it depends on net.ipv4.conf.default.promote_secondaries
1176722962 M * ex primary ip could be also prefered to use as source ip by routing
1176722963 Q * mattzerah Read error: Connection reset by peer
1176722963 M * daniel_hozac yep.
1176722975 J * mattzerah ~matt@121.50.222.55
1176723099 M * blizz strange.. some vserver addresses are primary, most are secondary..
1176723138 M * daniel_hozac you probably specified different prefixes for them
1176723177 M * blizz most likely.. /32 and /24
1176723225 M * blizz can i reset/restart network interfaces from the outside without killing the guest?
1176724144 M * mcp website down?
1176724250 M * blizz i think so
1176724837 Q * Aiken Quit: Leaving
1176725159 M * blizz damn iproute package :/
1176725296 J * yarihm ~yarihm@84-75-103-239.dclient.hispeed.ch
1176726183 J * ema ~ema@rtfm.galliera.it
1176726809 M * blizz mhm, del+add works fine. i thought that would break something :)
1176727018 M * blizz someone fire up the linux-vserver.org page please! :-=
1176727020 M * blizz :-)
1176727536 M * Guy- daniel_hozac: is the util-vserver sourcecode accessible anywhere? svn.linux-vserver.org doesn't reply
1176727591 M * sid3windr I guess the webserver shit itself again :/
1176727677 M * Guy- wouldn't that be "shat"? :)
1176728220 M * sid3windr not in my english :p
1176728466 M * Guy- did anything happen in 2.2.0 that would make util-vserver 0.30.213-rc1 stop working?
1176728514 M * Guy- I can't even seem to be able to compile it anymore
1176728611 M * daniel_hozac hmm?
1176728861 M * Guy- daniel_hozac: the tools segfault when I run them
1176728881 M * Guy- # strace -ffF -s200 vserver-info
1176728881 M * Guy- execve("/usr/sbin/vserver-info", ["vserver-info"], [/* 17 vars */]) = 0
1176728881 M * Guy- --- SIGSEGV (Segmentation fault) @ 0 (0) ---
1176728894 M * Guy- this is on 2.6.20.6-vs2.2.0
1176728950 M * daniel_hozac and what distribution is that on?
1176728972 M * Guy- debian sid
1176728989 M * daniel_hozac the same one that was just recently unfrozen?
1176729005 M * Guy- but the same binary works fine on 2.6.19.2-vs2.2.0-rc8.7
1176729020 M * daniel_hozac well, that's interesting.
1176729026 M * daniel_hozac anything in dmesg?
1176729041 M * Guy- vserver-info[12882:#0]: segfault at 00002b27f79b2718 rip 0000000000400563 rsp 00007fff9ebe32a0 error 4
1176729059 M * Guy- showattr[24346:#0]: segfault at 00002b24e4a13b28 rip 00000000004009d9 rsp 00007fffef7dde40 error 4
1176729063 M * Guy- stuff like this
1176729065 M * daniel_hozac and nothing before that?
1176729086 M * Guy- nothing I'd immediately associate with vserver, no
1176729095 M * Guy- module messages
1176729291 M * Guy- (gdb) bt
1176729291 M * Guy- #0  execQuery (vserver=0x403e39 "-", tag=tgSYSINFO, argc=0, argv=0x0) at src/vserver-info.c:483
1176729294 M * Guy- #1  0x0000000000400dbd in main (argc=1, argv=0x7fff3f3c0b48) at src/vserver-info.c:572
1176729412 M * daniel_hozac looks like stack protector stuff to me.
1176729448 M * daniel_hozac try adding -fno-stack-protector-all to your CFLAGS.
1176729572 M * Guy- what I don't get is why the same binary works on a different kernel, if it's a stack protector issue
1176729580 M * Guy- (but I'm trying)
1176729648 M * Guy- now, when compiling, I get
1176729649 M * Guy- lib/personalityflag.c:54: warning: ISO C forbids empty initializer braces
1176729649 M * Guy- lib/personalityflag.c:30: error: zero or negative size array 'VALUES'
1176729681 M * Guy- retrying with clean src
1176729710 M * Guy- no, same error
1176729729 M * daniel_hozac that's, umm, interesting.
1176729763 Q * sharkjaw Quit: Leaving
1176729793 M * Guy- this is gcc (GCC) 4.1.2 (Ubuntu 4.1.2-0ubuntu3)
1176729800 M * Guy- (I'm compiling on ubuntu but running on sid)
1176729804 M * Guy- shall I compile on sid also?
1176729903 M * Guy- no, same difference
1176729975 M * daniel_hozac try compiling on sid without the extra CFLAGS.
1176730165 M * Guy- uh. it doesn't even configure on sid...
1176730167 M * Guy- usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/4.1.2/../../../../lib64/libm.so: file not recognized: File format not recognized
1176730181 M * Guy- that's a symlink to /lib/libm-2.5.so
1176730193 M * Guy- lib/libm-2.5.so: ELF 64-bit LSB shared object, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.6.0, stripped
1176730209 M * daniel_hozac looks like a 32-bit compiler trying to use 64-bit libraries.
1176730239 M * daniel_hozac i assume gcc helloworld.c works?
1176730370 M * Guy- uh, no, not anymore :)
1176730377 J * DavidS ~david@pnsgw1-client102.demo.tuwien.ac.at
1176730392 Q * DavidS Remote host closed the connection
1176730392 M * Guy- it used to, though...
1176730422 M * daniel_hozac well, i guess that explains it :)
1176730528 M * Guy- it explains why I can't compile, but not why the vserver-info I compile on ubuntu doesn't segfault :)
1176730721 M * daniel_hozac you _are_ using dietlibc, right?
1176730757 M * Guy- yes
1176730780 M * daniel_hozac so file vserver-info returns statically linked, yes?
1176730785 M * Guy- yes
1176730812 M * daniel_hozac well, no idea then.
1176730833 M * Guy- could you give me the newest util-vserver sources? I'd like to try with those but can't download them atm
1176731028 Q * yarihm Quit: Leaving
1176731276 J * yakker ~yakker@aegis.CS.Princeton.EDU
1176731276 Q * er Read error: Connection reset by peer
1176731422 M * Guy- OK, upgrading libc6 helped, I can now compile on sid
1176731435 M * baldy is your website down?
1176731464 M * Guy- baldy: mine is up, vserver's is regrettably down
1176731757 M * baldy hmpf
1176731767 M * baldy can any1 give a the latest vServer patch?
1176731822 M * Guy- baldy: http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Experimental/patch-2.6.20.4-vs2.2.0.diff
1176731871 M * Guy- daniel_hozac: sorry, I appear to have misled you. the binary that worked on sid apparently wasn't the same one after all, so it probably is a stack protector issue
1176732243 M * baldy Guy-: thx
1176733357 M * daniel_hozac Guy-: that's why i asked multiple times... ;)
1176733547 M * Guy- daniel_hozac: sorry, I was confused :)
1176734172 J * Hollow ~hollow@styx.xnull.de
1176734181 M * daniel_hozac hey Hollow :)
1176734181 M * Hollow here we go
1176734194 M * Hollow such a f*cking crap
1176734199 M * Hollow the box was up the whole time
1176734205 M * Hollow the reset button did absolutely nothing
1176734206 M * daniel_hozac what was the problem?
1176734209 M * Hollow no wonder the rescue didn't boot
1176734233 M * Hollow i think they forgot to attach the remote reset after removing the KVMoIP last time
1176734235 M * Hollow bitches ..
1176734250 M * daniel_hozac hehe
1176734365 M * Hollow anyway, i will try to outsource some guests this weel, so we don't get short on memory on the long term
1176734399 M * daniel_hozac okay. have you managed to locate the source of the problems?
1176734406 M * daniel_hozac btw, the password for the database is compromised.
1176734414 M * daniel_hozac mediawiki was spewing it earlier.
1176734421 M * Hollow great
1176734428 M * sid3windr ick
1176734431 M * sid3windr sounds like a bug report is in order :o
1176734450 M * Hollow sounds like n00b php programmers need to stop programming
1176734460 M * daniel_hozac yeah.
1176734477 M * Hollow fucking php costs my employer so much money, incredible
1176734484 M * Hollow they start to setup web pages with java/jsp now
1176734487 M * blizz compromised? outputted somewhere?
1176734497 M * daniel_hozac yep.
1176734502 M * blizz *output
1176734508 M * blizz whee, sick shit.
1176734535 M * daniel_hozac Hollow: IME Java sucks way too much resources.
1176734555 M * Hollow so, php doesn't?
1176734564 M * blizz i'd guess php sucks less (resources)
1176734591 M * Hollow well, actually i don#t care, i don't do web development :)
1176734595 M * Hollow i'm just the sysadmin here
1176734606 A * Hollow hates web development
1176734630 M * daniel_hozac hehe
1176734685 M * Hollow webdev always sucks .. if you manage to get a good backend, you still have to care about IE
1176734703 M * blizz it's dodgy :-)
1176734762 M * Hollow ok, mysql password changed
1176734771 M * Hollow though login is allowed from helios only anyway
1176734778 M * daniel_hozac yeah i figured.
1176734788 M * Hollow i'm not that stupid :))
1176734800 M * blizz dont underestimate ip spoofing evil ;-)
1176734853 M * Hollow although i am pretty stupid ..
1176734869 M * Hollow dns was totally borked after restart
1176734914 M * Hollow because no dns server had it in the cache anymore, but the dns servers use a mysql backened, which in turn couldn't be reached if the domain was unresolvable ..
1176735008 M * daniel_hozac hehe, that sucks.
1176735088 M * Hollow yeah.. i configured static ips for the nameservers in /etc/hosts now, but i should have done that earlier probably :)
1176735104 M * Hollow at least nagios did its job and sent me roughly 300 "host down" emails :)
1176735257 M * daniel_hozac hehe
1176735267 M * Hollow next TODO: backup :)
1176735291 M * Hollow at least some guests
1176735292 M * daniel_hozac in the redundancy or in the for-safe-keeping sense?
1176735301 M * Hollow for-safe-keeping
1176735305 M * daniel_hozac okay.
1176735321 M * Hollow the vserver would need about 7G ... anyone? :)
1176735325 M * Hollow *vserver guest
1176735356 M * Hollow well, i should have enough space for selective backup at home on my fileserver
1176735476 M * daniel_hozac well, i should have no problems mirroring that on the mirror.
1176735495 M * daniel_hozac 337 GiB free right now ;)
1176735713 M * Solver yay website back - thnx Hollow :)
1176735758 M * Hollow daniel_hozac: ok, i will create a dump of the vserver guest when back at home, then we can both download it on our fileservers ;)
1176735772 M * daniel_hozac okay, sounds like a plan.
1176735782 M * daniel_hozac will make some more room on the non-public filesystem.
1176735785 M * Solver Hollow: I was going to ask if you wanted me to secondary but I see you have a good lot of dns servers, and well distributed :)
1176735800 M * Hollow actually, the vserver guest is one of only two guests which could not be restored currently
1176735808 M * Hollow all others could be restored from svn checkouts etc
1176735815 M * Hollow (the second one being mysql :)
1176735825 M * daniel_hozac hehe.
1176735872 M * Hollow Solver: no, actually my DNS system is a SPoF
1176735889 M * Hollow but i will outsource the dns guests to other machines in other datacenters this week
1176735931 A * sid3windr also still has a secondary ns he could provide if needed
1176735961 M * Hollow well, since the dns setup uses mysql replication and does _not_ support axfr, i would need a guest + ip :))
1176735978 M * sid3windr oops.
1176735984 M * sid3windr you using mydns?
1176735987 M * Hollow yep
1176735992 M * sid3windr thought so :)
1176736000 M * Hollow it works beatufilly (at least if the server is up)
1176736003 M * sid3windr I use it too but I'm going to migrate to powerdns
1176736020 M * Hollow do you know any webpanels for pdns?
1176736027 M * sid3windr poweradmin, tupa, webdns
1176736037 M * Hollow wtf .. i found none
1176736053 M * sid3windr good thing about mydns is that it has one included
1176736056 M * sid3windr even though it's a silly one
1176736061 M * sid3windr and a little odd, with graphics inside the php code ;)
1176736063 M * Hollow yeah, i'm not using it
1176736068 M * daniel_hozac doesn't pdns have one included too?
1176736069 M * Hollow i use mydnsconfig
1176736074 M * sid3windr daniel_hozac: nope
1176736077 M * daniel_hozac i remember seeing a webserver option in the config today.
1176736082 M * sid3windr ah
1176736086 M * sid3windr yea but you can't manage zones that way
1176736089 M * daniel_hozac ah, okay.
1176736096 M * sid3windr I don't actually know what the webserver does
1176736096 M * sid3windr :p
1176736100 M * sid3windr never used it
1176736104 M * daniel_hozac yeah, me neither :P
1176736118 M * daniel_hozac haven't used pdns much, just set it up and let it run :)
1176736134 M * Hollow fyi: http://www.mydnsconfig.org/
1176736147 M * Hollow it supports different users, that's why i chose it over the included one
1176736175 M * Hollow (and it works with php5 :)
1176736178 M * sid3windr :-)
1176736185 M * sid3windr poweradmin also supports multiple users
1176736192 M * sid3windr daniel_hozac: apparently the built in webserver shows some stats or so
1176736198 M * sid3windr top 100 queries and such
1176736437 M * sid3windr also, mydns does axfr iirc?
1176736445 M * sid3windr why else does it have a field dedicated to allow-transfer? :)
1176736707 M * Hollow sid3windr: i did not say mydns does not support axfr .. i said my dns setup does not support axfr :)
1176736715 M * sid3windr ok :)
1176737031 M * Hollow sid3windr: even the pdns documentation recommends to use backend replication ...
1176737042 M * sid3windr yup
1176737046 M * sid3windr that is what I use as well
1176737051 M * Hollow :)
1176737059 M * sid3windr I just have a vserver with bind9 for secondarying ;) 
1176737063 M * sid3windr for other people
1176737067 M * Hollow i see
1176737072 M * sid3windr and if yours happened to be bind I'd offer an axfr ;)
1176737143 M * Hollow well, there will be 5 nameservers in the end probably, 3 in the same datacenter on different boxes, and two in other datacenters
1176737155 M * daniel_hozac we already have tons of nameservers, no?
1176737162 M * sid3windr 5 is a whole bunch :)
1176737180 M * daniel_hozac seems like some redundancy on the webserver might be better spent :)
1176737182 M * Hollow daniel_hozac: if we == linux-vserver; i don't host vserver domain; fi
1176737183 M * Hollow :)
1176737183 M * sid3windr just saying, if you need something I could provide it
1176737200 M * sid3windr and that would possibly include an entire vserver guest, yes :)
1176737236 M * Hollow actually, i wanted to ask both hetzner and my employer if they don't want to spent a single box for vserver
1176737667 J * stefani ~stefani@flute.radonc.washington.edu
1176738213 M * Solver Hollow: can I help re dns.  I have 10+ years experience
1176738241 M * Hollow well, i don't need experience, i need money :)
1176738245 M * Solver eg, running a secondary or maybe giving some advice.  I don't have a lot of time unfortunately :(
1176738249 M * Solver hahaha
1176738264 M * slack101 whats your guys favorite server distro ?
1176738276 M * Solver Ubuntu/Debian for me
1176738279 M * Hollow wrong question :D
1176738288 A * Hollow smells flame
1176738290 M * Solver hahaha
1176738297 A * Solver dons adbestos underwear
1176738302 M * slack101 im jus curious
1176738307 M * Hollow gentoo
1176738368 M * slack101 i liked gentoo but jus ddint work for m 
1176738389 M * slack101 having 200mb worth the development tools 
1176738668 M * slack101 when i ddint need any serious configuration
1176738703 J * toidinamai_ ~frank@84.19.195.206
1176738710 M * Solver Hollow: where do you see the SPoF in the DNS?  Is it the MySQL backend you mentioned before?
1176738732 M * Hollow no, all ns guests are on the same host, just on different subnets
1176738737 M * Solver ouch
1176738746 M * Solver I hadn't tracerouted them yet :)
1176738756 M * Solver are you sure you don't want a secondary? :)
1176738767 M * Hollow http://www.dnsreport.com/tools/dnsreport.ch?domain=croup.de
1176738796 M * Hollow well, the mismatched glue it reports actually is a 4th dns server on a different machine that does not really work yet
1176738905 M * Hollow i know the situation sucks, just give me some days, and it will not contain a SPoF anymore
1176738935 M * Solver ok cool
1176738956 M * Solver if you want a secondary just yell.
1176739133 Q * toidinamai Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1176739537 Q * cdrx Read error: Connection reset by peer
1176739695 M * Hollow Solver: where would it be located?
1176739705 M * Solver Canada
1176739729 M * Solver I am just about to shutdown a box in australia or I could have offered that too :)
1176739774 M * Hollow as i said, i would just need guest + ip :)
1176739800 M * Solver you'd need a shell account? :)  
1176739806 M * Solver That might be harder :)
1176739917 M * Solver I can definitely organise secondary without a shell account.  I understand you'd want to know who I am.  See www.opentrend.net
1176740300 M * daniel_hozac mm
1176740520 M * slack101 what are other popular distro besides debian, is there a list of tem somewhere ?
1176740561 M * daniel_hozac Gentoo, Fedora, CentOS, Ubuntu (but you probably don't want that for anything Linux-VServer related...), ...
1176740568 M * daniel_hozac distrowatch.com probably has a list.
1176740578 M * slack101 i see
1176740588 M * slack101 i am wonderin which 3 i shoul offer
1176740595 M * slack101 debian being one
1176740612 M * slack101 CentOS seems good to offer
1176740642 M * slack101 and a customized slackware ........sounds good :D
1176741455 J * quimrovira ~chatzilla@113.Red-80-24-10.staticIP.rima-tde.net
1176741465 M * quimrovira good evening!
1176741621 M * quimrovira Anyone around feeling like answering a noob's question? I'm getting the same number of processes and mem info on all running vservers, altohugh i'm trying to get resource use on each independent server
1176741642 M * quimrovira can anyone point me to the right palce? I've been browsing the docs on the main page, but had no luck
1176742262 J * prae ~benjamin@foxhound.sherpadown.net
1176742382 M * quimrovira hmm.. well, the real problem is not being able to fetch reliable mem usage && proc count stats.. seems like proc count is mixed at least on /proc too
1176742536 M * quimrovira and load averages show ok on /proc/virtual on host, but globals are on hosted virtuals (checked through snmp)
1176742576 J * Piet_ hiddenserv@tor.noreply.org
1176742672 Q * Piet Remote host closed the connection
1176742738 J * ensc ~irc-ensc@p54B4EB5C.dip.t-dialin.net
1176743268 M * quimrovira anyone alive?
1176743474 J * cdrx ~legoater@cap31-3-82-227-199-249.fbx.proxad.net
1176743759 M * daniel_hozac quimrovira: hmm? where is it getting the data from?
1176743770 M * quimrovira hi daniel :)
1176743792 M * quimrovira well, I tried to fetch load && mem usage info through snmp at first
1176743832 N * Piet_ Piet
1176743844 M * daniel_hozac and have you set virt_load and virt_mem?
1176743848 J * bonbons ~bonbons@83.222.38.145
1176743874 N * DoberMann[gadoue] DoberMann[PullA]
1176743946 M * quimrovira erm... i suppose that's the noob answer to my noob question... where are those options=?
1176744010 M * quimrovira hmmm.. i see.. they're flags.. gonna check config ;)
1176744070 M * quimrovira may i set it directly through /etc/vservers/.defaults?
1176744160 M * daniel_hozac no.
1176744338 M * quimrovira ok... thank you very much ;)
1176744655 M * quimrovira just found the flag description page... a bit hidden, it is :) Thanks again, daniel ;)
1176746100 M * slack101 having a problem installing debian :d
1176746330 N * DoberMann[PullA] DoberMann
1176746332 M * Bertl_vV how so?
1176746462 J * boci^ ~boci@pool-6102.adsl.interware.hu
1176746557 M * slack101 did it beofre 
1176746558 M * slack101 but
1176746563 M * slack101 like a bad repos or something
1176746871 M * blizz fuck. kernel dump.
1176746903 M * Bertl_vV you mean, a kernel oops?
1176746917 M * blizz yes :)
1176746917 M * Bertl_vV if so, please upload it to paste.linux-vserver.org
1176746942 M * blizz pastie mysql down
1176746955 M * blizz Hollow, need to change mysql password for paste script?
1176747006 M * mcp ah, website online again :)
1176747108 M * Bertl_vV blizz: okay, take a different one then ...
1176747186 M * blizz http://dpaste.com/8566/
1176747207 M * blizz oops, wait a sec
1176747219 M * blizz http://dpaste.com/8566/plain
1176747220 M * blizz better.
1176747232 M * daniel_hozac blizz: might want to update to 2.2.0, where that's fixed...
1176747238 M * daniel_hozac (supposed to be, at least)
1176747261 M * blizz running 2.6.20.2-vs2.2.0-rc17
1176747289 M * Bertl_vV blizz: is fixed in the release
1176747314 M * blizz ok, thanks
1176747318 M * blizz upgrading... :)
1176747862 M * daniel_hozac pastebin should be up again.
1176748112 M * blizz ok, updated the kernel, applied the new patch and started everything again. thanks for the fast response
1176748184 Q * quimrovira Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.61 [Mozilla rv:1.7.13/20060717]
1176748429 M * slack101 ok
1176748447 M * slack101 why isn't my buildworking lol .....for debian hmmmm
1176748474 M * slack101 vserver myguest45 build --context 1253 --hostname debian --interface eth0:69.xx.xx.xxx/24 --dist etch --mirror http://ftp.au.debian.org/debian/
1176748522 M * daniel_hozac well, you're missing a --, --dist should be -d, --mirror should be -m.
1176748573 J * DavidS ~david@217.19.46.18
1176748734 M * Hollow good news folks .. my employer is going to donate a dedicated box just for linux-vserver :)
1176748743 M * slack101 vserver-build: invalid option -- d
1176748788 M * daniel_hozac slack101: as i said, you're missing a -d.
1176748795 M * daniel_hozac umm, a --, of course.
1176748796 M * Hollow probably -- -d
1176748799 M * Hollow :)
1176748889 Q * ema Quit: leaving
1176748897 M * sid3windr Hollow: cool
1176748935 M * slack101 daniel_hozac: where ?
1176748938 M * slack101 ooo
1176748972 M * slack101 No build-method specifie hmmmm
1176748988 M * daniel_hozac well, yeah, you're missing -m debootstrap too.
1176749084 M * meandtheshell Hollow: so he's investing 50 euros via ebay :)
1176749093 A * meandtheshell just kidding ...
1176749119 M * Hollow well, rather 59EUR/month :)
1176749130 M * meandtheshell ah - ic 
1176749155 M * daniel_hozac remote console/reset/etc.? :)
1176749163 M * Hollow definitely :o
1176749170 M * sid3windr remote hax
1176749184 M * daniel_hozac okay, good ;)
1176749187 Q * cdrx Read error: Connection reset by peer
1176749190 M * meandtheshell Hollow: Hetzner?
1176749194 M * Hollow fyi: http://www.hetzner.de/eric.html
1176749197 M * Hollow yep
1176749198 M * meandtheshell lol
1176749216 M * sid3windr oh, you work at hetzner?
1176749220 M * Hollow no
1176749226 M * Hollow but my employer hosts at hetzner ;)
1176749227 M * sid3windr ah. :)
1176749229 M * sid3windr hehe
1176749232 M * sid3windr ok
1176749240 M * sid3windr so it's active sponsoring :)
1176749242 M * Hollow among others ..
1176749243 M * sid3windr that's quite nice
1176749267 M * sid3windr most places say "i have some bandwidth and rackspace to spare" but your boss is now actually paying for an extra machine? :)
1176749277 Q * FireEgl Remote host closed the connection
1176749325 M * sid3windr expensive card that eric
1176749325 M * Hollow yep
1176749329 A * sid3windr has serial console instead
1176749335 M * sid3windr + apc masterswitch
1176749337 M * Hollow well, don't know if they'll pay the eric ;)
1176749340 M * sid3windr hehe
1176749348 M * Hollow but i will :P
1176749381 M * Hollow unfortunately they don't offer serial console
1176749393 M * Hollow just these kvm over ip things
1176749612 Q * DavidS Quit: Leaving.
1176749717 M * slack101 daniel_hozac: vserver myguest45 build --context 1253 --hostname debian --interface eth0:69.xx.xx.xxx/24 -- -d -m debootstrap etch -mirror http://ftp.au.debian.org/debian/
1176749736 M * daniel_hozac no.
1176749807 M * daniel_hozac -m debootstrap should be right after build.
1176749936 M * meandtheshell Hollow: eric is worth the money - think about how much time it can save you plus the increased level of independence
1176749959 M * meandtheshell no more nagging IT stuff to reboot your box ...
1176749965 M * Hollow yeah, 19 bucks isn't that much, rather the 149 setup fee hurts :)
1176749982 M * meandtheshell lol - very true ...
1176750086 M * slack101 daniel_hozac: http://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/d/debootstrap/debootstrap_0.3.3_all.deb:
1176750086 M * slack101 13:59:56 ERROR 404: Not Found.
1176750086 M * slack101 ERROR: Could not download the debootstrap package from
1176750331 N * DoberMann DoberMann[PullA]
1176750424 M * slack101 hmmm
1176750480 J * bronson ~bronson@66.237.74.66.ptr.us.xo.net
1176750532 M * waldi hihi
1176750537 M * sid3windr Hollow: well it seems to cost $650 to buy ;/
1176750549 M * sid3windr ofcourse they bought 1K and it got cheaper
1176750550 M * sid3windr but still.
1176751153 M * slack101 damn i really cant figure this out
1176751736 Q * lilalinux Remote host closed the connection
1176752030 Q * dos000 Quit: Ex-Chat
1176752048 J * lilalinux ~plasma@80.69.41.3
1176752091 Q * softi42 Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1176752103 J * softi42 ~softi@p549D6B44.dip.t-dialin.net
1176752268 J * shedi ~siggi@ftth-237-144.hive.is
1176752525 J * Aiken ~james@ppp194-30.lns1.bne1.internode.on.net
1176752934 Q * lilalinux Remote host closed the connection
1176753595 Q * bronson Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1176753716 J * cruser ~chatzilla@72.242.194.162
1176753949 J * cehteh ~ct@pipapo.org
1176753974 M * daniel_hozac slack101: that error comes with the most specific instructions ever.
1176754010 J * opuk ~kupo@c213-100-138-228.swipnet.se
1176754041 M * daniel_hozac opuk: :)
1176754047 M * opuk daniel_hozac: ;)
1176754085 M * sid3windr daniel_hozac: ;)
1176754087 M * sid3windr opuk: :)
1176754098 M * opuk :)
1176754136 M * cruser Hi :)  Using yum and the dhorac repo the vserver kernel does not load using Fedora 5. An earlier dhorac kernel version worked on another box a few weeks ago.  
1176754165 M * daniel_hozac cruser: which kernel are you using and how does it not work now?
1176754208 M * sid3windr daniel horac!
1176754286 M * cruser daniel: Thanks. 2.6.20-1.2307.fc5smp. There are two entries in grub, the other is the kernel that won't work. -2.6.20-1.2311.fc5.vs2.2.0.1smp
1176754300 M * daniel_hozac and what doesn't work about it?
1176754342 M * cruser The computer reboots. No errors are shown. I can not find reference to it in /var/log/messages
1176754373 M * daniel_hozac do you have panic=X on your kernel command line? when does it reboot?
1176754391 M * daniel_hozac what architecture is that?
1176754477 M * cruser I have no panic. It reboots right after the grub screen. 686 intel
1176754493 M * sid3windr wrong cpu arch?
1176754498 M * cruser dual
1176754508 M * daniel_hozac which kernel package are you using?
1176754540 M * cruser I am using yum, if I understand you.
1176754573 M * daniel_hozac well, what i meant was, are you using kernel, kernel-xen, kernel-smp, etc.
1176754586 M * cruser kernel-smp
1176754714 J * ema ~ema@rtfm.galliera.it
1176754722 M * cruser It booted using kernel-smp without the vs patch
1176754731 M * daniel_hozac with 2312?
1176754750 M * cruser hold on, let me look.
1176754752 M * daniel_hozac what kind of CPU is it?
1176754853 M * daniel_hozac i mean, more specifically. does it have PAE and all that?
1176754879 M * cruser Don't think so. Right now it is 2.6.20-1.2307.fc5smp. Intel Pentium 4 cpu 3.00 GHz
1176754896 M * daniel_hozac so it certainly should have all of those features.
1176754915 M * daniel_hozac could you try with 2312?
1176754941 M * cruser If I could figure out how to make yum download it :)
1176754964 M * cruser Let me have a play.
1176754971 M * daniel_hozac comment the exclude you added in /etc/yum.repos.d/fedora-core.repo
1176755019 M * cruser okay. do I leave in your repo?
1176755054 M * cruser Wait.
1176755056 M * slack101 whats the difference between Fedora and RH ?
1176755057 M * daniel_hozac sure, my kernel is a revision behind.
1176755073 M * daniel_hozac slack101: one is an organization and the other is a company? :)
1176755091 M * slack101 :)
1176755093 M * slack101 i dont follow
1176755095 M * cruser I only put the exclude kernel in the fedora-update.repos 
1176755114 M * slack101 i thought it was started by the same people
1176755118 M * daniel_hozac cruser: ah, right. that's where you need to comment it.
1176755213 M * slack101 thnen what is CentOS isn't that RH enterprise basically
1176755221 M * daniel_hozac CentOS is a RHEL respin,y es.
1176755229 M * slack101 respin ?
1176755238 M * cruser daniel: so along with fedore-updates.repo I will put the exclude in fedora-core.repo, any where else? Thanks. 
1176755251 M * daniel_hozac cruser: no, you only need the exclude in fedora-updates.repo.
1176755268 M * daniel_hozac cruser: if you comment that temporarily, you should be able to get the 2312 kernel.
1176755271 M * cruser got it. 
1176755285 M * daniel_hozac if that also works, it's just me that sucks :)
1176755788 M * cruser daniel: Okay. It works with 2.6.20-1.2312.fc5smp
1176755807 M * daniel_hozac well, that's interesting...
1176755828 Q * bonbons Quit: Leaving
1176755839 M * cruser would you like me to try something else?
1176756003 M * daniel_hozac nothing i can think of right now. i'll have to investigate.
1176756031 M * cruser Okay. 
1176756091 M * daniel_hozac i seem to recall this being a problem in the past.
1176756104 M * cruser if I put "panic" on my grub menu.lst will it give some clues?
1176756179 J * Vlad- vlad@208.32.7.250
1176756211 M * daniel_hozac no, it shouldn't.
1176756230 M * daniel_hozac do you get anything at all on the monitor?
1176756241 M * daniel_hozac or does it just reboot instantly after grub boots it?
1176756261 Q * softi42 Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1176756265 M * cruser That is correct.
1176756278 M * cruser Goes dark for a moment I think.
1176756286 M * daniel_hozac yeah.
1176756301 M * cruser I can reload the vs kernel again if you like. yum removed it.
1176756318 M * daniel_hozac well, i'm updating to the latest Fedora kernel anyway, so we'll see if that fixes anything.
1176756608 M * daniel_hozac IIRC a simple rebuild fixed it the last time.
1176756616 M * Vlad- hi ne1 know of good web frontend, like openvps but for debian?
1176756638 M * daniel_hozac Vlad-: openvcp?
1176756666 M * Vlad- openvcp seems to be too simple, no quota support
1176756686 M * Vlad- at least disk limits would be nice
1176756713 M * bzed Vlad-: dtc has somethign liek that for xen, probably it's modifyable for vserver
1176756723 M * baldy Vlad-: openvcp is cool
1176756734 M * baldy u can run it with tagxid
1176756789 M * Vlad- oh maybe i should look in to tagxid and dtc
1176756820 M * baldy u need to mount yout vserver partition with the tagxid flag
1176756822 M * baldy thats all
1176756839 M * daniel_hozac i thought openvcp added disk limits.
1176756851 M * baldy daniel_hozac: they did ;)
1176756885 M * Vlad- is it in stable or dev? openvcp with disk limits
1176756894 M * baldy stable
1176756901 M * Vlad- cool
1176756923 M * Vlad- then openvcp it is
1176756980 M * cruser dhozac: Do you know when your update to the lasteset Fedora kernel will be?
1176757011 M * daniel_hozac should be ready by the time i get up tomorrow, so should hit the repo in ~8 hours
1176757064 M * cruser okay, thanks. I will try tomorrow. 
1176757082 M * daniel_hozac (that is, unless something goes wrong)
1176757113 M * cruser :) How would I try an earlier version?
1176757163 M * daniel_hozac well, the earlier version is an ancient 2.6.18-1.2255.fc5.vs2.0.2.2.0.rc9.1
1176757179 M * daniel_hozac so that wouldn't really be an interesting data point.
1176757236 M * daniel_hozac yum install kernel-smp-2.6.18-1.2255.fc5.vs2.0.2.2.0.rc9.1.i686 should get you that though.
1176757258 M * cruser Thank you.
1176757420 J * rob-84x^ rob@submarine.ath.cx
1176757436 M * cruser dhozac: yum says nothing to do. Do I need to remove my kernels first :(
1176757457 M * daniel_hozac what does rpm -q kernel-smp say?
1176757484 Q * Vlad- Quit: thanks
1176757506 M * cruser kernel-smp-2.6.20-1.2307.fc5
1176757507 M * cruser kernel-smp-2.6.20-1.2312.fc5
1176757611 M * daniel_hozac hmm, yeah, i guess yum doesn't want to downgrade...
1176757617 J * softi42 ~softi@p549D6B44.dip.t-dialin.net
1176757631 M * daniel_hozac well, nonetheless, it wouldn't be such an interesting datapoint anyhow.
1176757684 M * daniel_hozac and a new kernel should be ready soon
1176757772 M * cruser okay. Fingers crossed. If all goes well doing a "yum update kernel-smp" would do it?
1176757797 M * daniel_hozac yep.
1176757817 M * cruser thanks.
1176757826 M * daniel_hozac if that doesn't do the trick, i guess i have an idea what might be wrong...
1176757929 M * cruser okay, thank you.
1176758303 M * bXi should sound work in a vserver?
1176758353 P * cruser 
1176758472 M * slack101 vserver myguest45 build -m debootstrap --context 1253 --hostname debian --interface eth0:xx.xx.xx.xxx/24 -- -d etch -mirror http://ftp.au.debian.org/debian/
1176758494 M * slack101 this is not working hmmmmmm
1176758540 M * Hollow replace -mirror by -m
1176758827 Q * duckx Remote host closed the connection
1176758910 Q * rob-84x^ Quit: That's it for today
1176759077 M * slack101 Usually, this means that Debian released a new version which is unknown
1176759077 M * slack101 to util-vserver and removed the known ones. To fix this, go to
1176759177 M * slack101 http://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/d/debootstrap/
1176759184 M * slack101 what exactly is a debootstrap ?
1176759453 M * sid3windr is your port 80 firewalled?
1176759496 J * yarihm ~yarihm@84-75-103-239.dclient.hispeed.ch
1176760005 Q * bzed Quit: bzed ZzZZzzzz
1176760015 J * derjohn2 ~aj@e180215129.adsl.alicedsl.de
1176760209 Q * dna_ Quit: Verlassend
1176762259 M * slack101 sid3windr: no
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1176762312 M * sid3windr google is working fine for me :P
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1176763066 P * stefani I'm Parting (the water)
1176763140 M * slack101 sid3windr
1176763144 A * slack101 yawns
1176764374 J * kwowt ~quote@pomoc.ircnet.com
1176764376 M * kwowt hi
1176764381 M * kwowt I have a question
1176764400 M * kwowt where do i get that kernel patch which supports 64 ips on a user vserver
1176764522 M * kwowt heh
1176764524 M * derjohn2 kwowt, check wiki. you have to change one define in the code
1176764536 M * kwowt define where
1176764543 M * kwowt oh its the famous derjohn
1176764543 M * kwowt :p
1176764582 M * derjohn2 heh ;)
1176764611 M * kwowt umm
1176764613 M * kwowt what wiki?
1176764617 M * kwowt i cant find anything on the site:d
1176764627 M * derjohn2 http://linux-vserver.derjohn.de/dpatch/dpatch-directory-2.6.17.11-rc31/12-256IP-in-a-guest.diff.dpatch
1176764634 M * derjohn2 there is a dpatch foo
1176764650 M * kwowt where's the wiki?:p
1176764657 M * derjohn2 linux-vserver.org IS a wiki
1176764667 M * kwowt lol
1176764676 M * kwowt but i can't find anything about this
1176764677 M * derjohn2 or try oldwiki.linux-vserver.org
1176764682 M * kwowt not in faq
1176764685 M * kwowt or documentation
1176764698 M * derjohn2 check that link abovr
1176764708 M * derjohn2 and dont forget to change utils, too !
1176764716 M * kwowt well i'm kinda a newbie in this
1176764722 M * kwowt so some documentation would be cool:D
1176764731 M * derjohn2 hm, hm, yes ;)
1176764746 M * derjohn2 but /me now ZZZzzzZzzzz it'slate here in .de
1176764754 M * kwowt its late here too:p
1176764758 M * kwowt i'll find u tomorow
1176764767 Q * Powerke Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1176764791 M * derjohn2 well, yes .. or take one of my prepatche dkernels
1176764798 M * kwowt where can i find em
1176764800 Q * phedny Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1176764801 M * derjohn2 linux-vserver.derjohn.de ... 
1176764805 M * kwowt i'm using gentoo:p
1176764832 M * derjohn2 hm, then utils are different at all (Hollows Toolset)
1176764837 M * derjohn2 IIRC...
1176764848 M * kwowt ...
1176764888 M * derjohn2 but the kernel patch is the same as mentioned about. chanhe the line to your needs .. 
1176764932 M * derjohn2 and recompile ... gentooists should be able to recompile ,)
1176764941 M * derjohn2 n8 all!
1176764944 M * kwowt nite
1176764950 M * derjohn2 cu
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