1176336496 Q * chand Quit: chand 1176338654 J * infowolfe ~infowolfe@c-67-164-195-129.hsd1.ut.comcast.net 1176339886 Q * SoftIce Read error: Connection reset by peer 1176340635 Q * Piet Quit: Piet 1176341242 M * quiksilv Anyone able to help me with a lockfile problem if I post some --debug output? 1176343005 Q * bronson Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1176344287 Q * yang Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1176344325 Q * bzed Quit: Leaving 1176344491 J * yang ~yang@cpe-213-157-253-172.dynamic.amis.net 1176346083 M * bored2sleep I haven't been active in here for a while, but I just wanted to say that I upgraded to 2.2.0 several days ago (under xen 3.0.4 again) and it seems like everything is working perfectly. It even fixed the one strange random Oops I'd get every so often under the old kernel (rc8 or so I think). That oops had just killed a process or two and spammed the kernel logs, but it is better to have no errors at all. :) A little more testing and I should be abl 1176346157 M * bored2sleep so, thanks, and you guys rock, and stuff. :) 1176348729 J * mattzerah ~matt@121.50.222.55 1176350638 Q * DoYouKnow 1176350763 M * mattzerah daniel_hozac: if you dont mind me asking a question about your kernel rpms for fedora.... do you try and patch the fedora src rpm, or do you start with a vanilla kernel, patch it with vs and then do a make rpm ? or ? 1176350831 M * mattzerah i've finally been able to build a kernel from the src rpm from centos (yay) so now i'm going to look at trying to integrate the vs patches into a centos kernel, wondering which would be the best way to go 1176351202 Q * softi42 Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1176351481 Q * hardwire Quit: Coyote finally caught me 1176351792 J * softi42 ~softi@p549D54DF.dip.t-dialin.net 1176352443 M * daniel_hozac mattzerah: i patch the Fedora kernel. 1176352463 M * mattzerah kewl, thankyou :) 1176352481 M * mattzerah i've been trying to make my own kernel for a while now - and only just got the thing to work 1176352491 M * mattzerah its a relief moment :) 1176352495 M * daniel_hozac note that make rpm is probably the worst way to do it. 1176352505 M * mattzerah haha, okay :) 1176352528 M * mattzerah is it an awfully difficult task would you say ? 1176352554 M * mattzerah are there many conflicts that need to be resolved ? 1176352571 M * daniel_hozac for 2.6.18 there were a few. 1176352591 M * daniel_hozac and you need to make sure you get the ones introduced by patches. 1176352614 M * daniel_hozac e.g. the mm->total_vm in arch_install_special_page or whatever it's called. 1176352615 M * mattzerah mmm 1176352617 M * daniel_hozac plus the xen bits. 1176352634 M * mattzerah oh well, i'll give it a go - always in for a bit of a challenge :) 1176352648 M * mattzerah are you going to give the centos5 kernel a go ? 1176352670 M * daniel_hozac well, i'm not sure. 1176352678 M * daniel_hozac doing so would limit it to 2.0.3. 1176352688 M * daniel_hozac i'd much prefer to use 2.2.0 instead... 1176352758 M * mattzerah what do you think is the solution for that - just ignore the kernel rpm altogether and build it from a vanilla ?? 1176352763 M * mattzerah i'de like to keep up to date to an extent 1176352837 M * daniel_hozac vanilla or Fedora. 1176352882 M * mattzerah mmm 1176352940 M * mattzerah i'll have to have a sit and think about that one - i've only just gotten onto centos, the only reason i like it over fedora is that the support for centos is longer per version 1176352954 M * mattzerah maybe i just have to pull my finger out and upgrade all the servers every year 1176352985 M * daniel_hozac well, i meant more to use the Fedora kernel on CentOS, at least until that's no longer updated.. 1176352994 M * mattzerah (i dont like touching production servers too much if they are working, not major upgrades anyway) 1176353002 M * mattzerah oh 1176353010 M * mattzerah okay, that sounds reasonable 1176353061 M * mattzerah have you had any experience using fedora kernels on centos ? 1176353139 M * daniel_hozac very limited, and that was on CentOS 4. 1176353200 M * mattzerah ok, i might give it a go with centos 5 and let you know how i travel :) 1176353210 M * daniel_hozac but as i've stated on the mailing list, you'll not only have to upgrade the kernel, you'll also have to keep mkinitrd, udev, etc. updated too. 1176353254 M * mattzerah although it would be a great learning exercise to do it on the centos kernel, i have no problem with you doing the work and me fitting it to centos :) 1176353268 M * mattzerah yups, i'll see how i go with it anyway 1176353296 M * mattzerah thankyou very much for the info - i'll have a tackle with it as soon as centos 5 is out 1176354124 J * hardwire ~bip@rdbck-4012.wasilla.mtaonline.net 1176354406 M * mattzerah mmm, some more advise if you dont mind.... do you think i should just download a binary rpm and see what happens, or is it worth the extra hassle and rebuilding the srpm ? 1176354417 M * mattzerah i guess it cant hurt just getting the binary and seeing what happens 1176354622 M * daniel_hozac sure. 1176354674 M * mattzerah :) 1176354683 M * mattzerah sometimes i think out loud 1176354687 A * mattzerah whistles 1176354706 M * quiksilv speaking of centos/fedora, anyone have experience with vserver on RHEL4/5 ? 1176354852 M * mattzerah not yet - thats what i'm attempting at the moment (well, on centos 5 anyway) 1176355086 M * quiksilv what method are u using? im just doing a skeleton and then copying the host. Not the most elegant :( 1176355357 M * daniel_hozac vserver ... build -m yum ... -- -d centos4 works fine. 1176355367 M * mattzerah with my previous attempts i use yum... yup just like that :) 1176355374 M * daniel_hozac but i guess RHEL doesn't have yum, right? 1176355431 M * mattzerah as far as i know it does 1176355439 M * mattzerah centos 4.4 uses yum 1176355446 M * daniel_hozac CentOS yes. 1176355448 M * mattzerah and centos 5 beta uses yum 1176355453 M * daniel_hozac RHEL not so much, IIRC. 1176355461 M * mattzerah oh, okay 1176355489 A * mattzerah thought centos was trying to be as much like rhel as possible, perhaps not 1176355491 Q * FireEgl Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1176355502 M * daniel_hozac well, sure, but they can't/don't want to use up2date. 1176355505 M * mattzerah i havn't used redhat sice 7.2 so i cant be sure 1176355512 M * mattzerah fair enough :) 1176355531 A * mattzerah likes yum, so no complaints on this end :) 1176356118 J * FireEgl Proteus@adsl-147-76-85.bhm.bellsouth.net 1176356959 N * DoberMann_ DoberMann 1176357498 J * sharkjaw ~gab@158.36.45.236 1176357908 M * Koffa hmm... guest is shut down, host is saying at login it's tweek (the guests name) o,O 1176358425 M * mattzerah hmmmm, that could have saved med a lot of time and mucking about - the fedora binary rpm just installed and is wokring great on centos5beta (needed to install the util-vserver from fedora extras and they seem to be fine as well) 1176358454 M * mattzerah i'll still have a shot at the standard centos kernel, but thats for interest only 1176358466 M * mattzerah thanx daniel_hozac: your rpm repository rules!! :) 1176358950 J * SoftIce ~psmith@dsl-244-251-28.telkomadsl.co.za 1176358953 M * SoftIce morning all :) 1176358961 M * SoftIce happy to see linux-vserver.org is up! 1176358985 M * SoftIce umm, anyone know when a 2.6.20*vs*grsec* patch will come abouts? 1176359146 M * SoftIce if nobody can answer that then, what complications would I get using linux-image-2.6.20-14 with a patch-2.6.19.7-vs2.2.0-rc21-grsec2.1.10-20070327.diff patch ? 1176359177 N * phedny_ phedny 1176359604 N * DoberMann DoberMann[PullA] 1176359619 M * quiksilv RHEL4 uses up2date with yum as the backend and RHEL5 is yum native i think... but im not sure what rpms you need for a base RHEL5 install 1176360082 J * chand ~chand@m167.net81-64-156.noos.fr 1176360551 A * sid3windr wonders who on earth would like to use yum 1176360623 M * quiksilv i dont have much experience with it over apt but whats so bad about it? 1176360702 M * sid3windr it's massively slow to use :) 1176360720 M * sid3windr in my experience, at least 1176360730 M * sid3windr but then again I'm spoiled with apt :) 1176360889 M * SoftIce sid3windr: would you know if its possible to patch 2.6.19.7-vs2.2.0-rc21-grsec2.1.10-20070327.diff with a 2.6.20 kernel ? 1176360897 M * SoftIce or would it cause complications 1176361185 M * sid3windr I really don't know :/ harry 's the grsec man! 1176361665 Q * zLinux Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1176361911 Q * ntrs Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1176361976 M * harry true :) 1176361978 J * ntrs ntrs@68-188-55-120.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com 1176362040 M * SoftIce so harry: the reason why I ask, is that ubuntu has the source for 2.6.20 + ubuntu patches 1176362056 M * SoftIce so would your 2.6.19-7 patch work fine on 2.6.20 ? 1176362060 M * SoftIce :) 1176362066 M * harry SoftIce: no 1176362077 M * harry reason: there are a LOT of changes in 2.6.20 1176362083 M * SoftIce ahh, I see 1176362095 M * harry spender is working on a patch for 2.6.20 1176362104 M * SoftIce harry: oh so its him you waiting for 1176362110 M * harry i could off course patch grsec myself 1176362131 M * harry but i tend to leave it to them to make a "new" patch 1176362150 M * SoftIce don't you find spender very arrogant ? 1176362151 M * harry then i will make a new grsec + vserver patch 1176362158 M * harry yups 1176362168 M * harry but!... pipacs is a REALLY good coder (pax part ;)) 1176362185 M * SoftIce :) 1176362207 M * harry and, once you get to know spender a bit, he's not all that bad :) 1176362211 M * SoftIce spender keeps coming to efnet #phrack, #darknet, etc and telling how he is god :) 1176362230 M * harry hehe 1176362232 M * SoftIce harry maybe, but he wont let his gaurd down in those channels 1176362248 M * harry some people like the attention... 1176362254 M * SoftIce same like jimjones used to be 1176362254 M * harry or demand attention 1176362266 M * harry bottom line is... it's quite a good extra layer of protection imno :) 1176362267 M * SoftIce yes, but I find the quite ones are normally smarter and have nothing to prove 1176362268 M * harry imho 1176362287 M * SoftIce guess so :) 1176362352 M * harry plus: we have something in common 1176362358 M * harry we both don't like theobsd ;) 1176362367 M * harry but then again... who does! 1176362408 M * SoftIce so my best bet would be in this case, with a 2.6.20 kernel installed would be to download a 2.6.19 kernel patch it with your grsec/vs patch then do a make oldconfig to keep the ubuntu patches and then make menuconfig .... 1176362417 M * harry but in short, i don't trust new stuff in the linux kernel (kvm,...), there is no grsec vor 2.6.20 (yet) 1176362441 M * harry do you NEED 2.6.20? 1176362447 M * SoftIce nope 1176362455 M * SoftIce dont even need 2.1 :) 1176362459 M * harry why not run 2.6.19-latest ;) 1176362482 M * harry which is still 7 ;) 1176362485 M * SoftIce what I do find is that the procfs keeps changing and throws me off, specially when it comes to snmp, etc. i've had many issues. 1176362503 M * harry ? 1176362507 M * SoftIce aggg, i've just used fbsd for to many years :) guess I become used to it 1176362520 M * harry fbsd is kinda cool :) 1176362539 M * harry imho it's "nicer" code 1176362545 M * SoftIce played with dfbsd, they have implemented wan clustering 1176362554 M * harry plus: they don't have 1001 different ways to enter kernel-params 1176362556 M * SoftIce and got some other cool things 1176362569 M * harry bsd has sysctl 1176362588 M * harry linux kernel has: sysctl, proc, /sys, ... 1176362597 M * harry all different ways to do shit 1176362612 M * SoftIce harry: isn't it true that linus wasn't even going to release the linux kernel if he knew that fbsd some or other version was being released? 1176362635 M * SoftIce somewhere I heard some talk about it 1176362640 M * harry no idea, don't follow that guy ;p 1176362657 M * SoftIce if it was i'm happy he didn't hear about it, or we wouldn't be where we are today 1176362696 M * harry maybe we'd all be using fbsd, which isn't bad either :) 1176362714 M * SoftIce ye, then maybe you guys would get jails working properly :P 1176362732 M * SoftIce i've heard about this ipv6 patch since early 4.X release 1176362740 M * harry too bad we'll never find out now :) 1176362744 M * SoftIce hehe 1176362885 M * SoftIce hmm, tell me these rc* patches for 2.6.19 are they stable, as I see your naming is different for 2.6.17 1176362906 M * SoftIce here you using rc* 1176362971 M * harry ? 1176362992 M * SoftIce patch-2.6.19.7-vs2.2.0-rc20-grsec2.1.10-20070325.diff 1176362994 M * SoftIce rc20, et cetc 1176363007 M * harry that's because those were vserver patches for release candidates 1176363026 M * SoftIce thought so 1176363028 M * harry and i started appending dates because that makes it easier to see when the patch was made 1176363029 M * SoftIce so this is stable? 1176363029 M * SoftIce patch-2.6.19.7-vs2.2.0-grsec2.1.10-20070402.diff 1176363039 M * harry that's the latest one 1176363069 M * harry which i'm running for a week or so in production at work now 1176363077 M * SoftIce nice 1176363099 M * SoftIce so how do I go abouts having a stable/secure linux kernel for the next 2 years! no reboots :P 1176363115 M * harry get a bugfree linux kernel + patches :) 1176363157 M * SoftIce thats hard, Linux Kernel CapiUtil.c Buffer Overflow 1176363194 M * harry the advantage you have when using grsec, is.. normal buffer overflows are harder 1176363206 M * harry user land derefs to kernel space impossible 1176363210 M * harry etc etc etc... 1176363241 M * harry so "most" linux bugs aren't ... well... they're fucking hard to exploit when you use grsec/pax features 1176363256 M * harry depending on what you enable off course :) 1176363264 M * SoftIce except when you find a bug in grsec :P 1176363269 M * harry true 1176363284 M * harry but that means you have local access to the machine ;) 1176363284 M * SoftIce not that I have noticed many in the last few years 1176363293 M * harry there was one a few months ago 1176363318 M * harry but you're right... it's quite good soft (especially the pax part ,grsec is still very good code, but... not as good as pax ;)) 1176363362 M * SoftIce hmm, I do remeber something, but I heard they blew it off, saying it wasn't a real bug and some company just wanted some vanity, etc to try get a name in the market 1176363374 J * meandtheshell ~markus@85-124-175-207.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at 1176363402 M * harry yes... basicly that's correct... when you used prevent userland deref, it's impossible to exploit 1176363404 M * SoftIce they DONT like people telling them they have mistakes in their code :) 1176363415 M * harry but basicly the problem wasn't where they said it was, it was in the linux part of some code 1176363447 M * harry SoftIce: sure they do, i patched spender's stealth iptables module a few times... he never made aproblem about it 1176363472 M * harry and some other bugfixes ... he never 'disliked' that 1176363484 M * SoftIce strange, maybe its because you never went public with it 1176363489 M * harry problem with that company was: they pointed out a linux kernel... oddness 1176363499 M * harry which was manifested in that part 1176363527 M * SoftIce well harry, how do you find the time to do all this coding ? :) 1176363545 M * harry i don't code that much ... :) 1176363569 M * matti Hi harry :) 1176363569 A * matti do... python mostly :< 1176363569 M * harry people make stuff, if it's "not good" or something weird is going on, i look into it, maybe patch t 1176363577 M * harry hey matti 1176363578 M * matti I didn't wrote single line of code in C for ages... 1176363596 M * harry last thing i wrote was a sploit for mcweject on fbsd ;) 1176363603 M * harry local root thingy 1176363610 M * SoftIce heh, that must have been some time ago, because I can't remeber it :) 1176363630 M * harry 20070326 1176363632 M * SoftIce I ran www.hack.co.za so posted most of peoples stuff 1176363649 M * SoftIce ahhh, I had it down long before then 1176363670 M * harry ? 1176363672 M * SoftIce I had it up when teso was still together, and jimjones thought he was god :) 1176363678 M * matti harry: Did your department found somebody? 1176363684 M * harry matti: lol no! 1176363687 M * matti harry: No? 1176363690 M * matti harry: Damn... 1176363696 M * harry not in the first 4 months... 1176363704 M * matti harry: Anyone applies? 1176363710 M * matti Not really? 1176363711 M * matti ;] 1176363716 M * harry the job offer is out since yesterday or so 1176363727 M * matti Give me THE URL ;p 1176363727 M * harry now we need to wait 1,5 months for people to see/subscribe 1176363730 M * matti I need to take a look. 1176363741 M * harry then first conversations, then second etc etc... 1176363744 M * harry seccie 1176363789 M * matti harry: Anyway, how are you? 1176363799 M * SoftIce harry so what happens, you have to do double work? :) 1176363802 M * harry pretty good :) 1176363804 M * harry SoftIce: yes 1176363827 M * matti SoftIce: He is a workaholic ;] 1176363849 M * harry http://www.kuleuven.ac.be/personeel/jobsite/vacatures.htm 1176363873 M * matti SoftIce: He will say, that he is not... but we don't believe him anymore :) 1176363931 M * matti SoftIce: And there's a rumor, that harry is actually a clone or alien or a clone of alien. 1176363934 M * matti ;] 1176363937 M * harry lol 1176363949 M * SoftIce ok tell me something, if I want to copy the config of say /boot/vmlinuz(version_here) to /usr/src/linux* to do a make oldconfig,e tc 1176363953 A * harry just a nerd with too much time on his hands and not enough beer 1176363966 M * matti harry: A-ha! 1176363969 M * SoftIce would it be better to use an old kernel conf or would I have issues witha version later that the one i'm goign to use the conf for 1176363969 M * matti harry: A nerd with beer! 1176363977 M * matti harry: This is impossible! 1176363992 M * matti harry: Now I've a proof, that you're indeed an alien ;] 1176363993 M * matti ;p 1176363995 M * matti harry: Gotcha! 1176363996 M * matti ;D 1176364014 M * harry SoftIce: easiest way: take the old kernel config 1176364026 M * harry make oldconfig 1176364030 M * harry and answer questions 1176364034 M * harry but... that's not how i do it ;) 1176364042 M * harry i copy the old config 1176364045 M * harry do a make menuconfig 1176364049 M * matti harry: Anyway, is there an english version of this advert? 1176364057 M * harry then immediately quit, see what symbols are "unresolved" 1176364062 M * harry fix those, overlook the entire kernel 1176364065 M * harry then compile 1176364070 J * dna ~naucki@48-203-dsl.kielnet.net 1176364079 M * harry matti: don't konw really... don't think so 1176364103 M * SoftIce harry, m' kay 1176364108 M * harry SoftIce: you can also use my config file for 2.6.19.7 :) 1176364122 M * matti SoftIce: Do not use his configs :) 1176364123 M * harry and start from there... it's the conifg i use for ALL our servers (intel) 1176364138 M * matti SoftIce: There's a well-known backdoor in his config ;p 1176364146 M * SoftIce matti hehe :) 1176364147 M * harry matti: lol 1176364156 M * SoftIce harry: sure, where is it ? 1176364159 M * harry it's a secure config which i use for my kernels : 1176364172 M * harry http://people.linux-vserver.org/~harry/config-2.6.19.7-g-v 1176364194 M * SoftIce great, thanks 1176364197 M * harry np 1176364205 M * harry see to it that you have all your drivers ;) 1176364213 M * harry because ther eis no module support : 1176364213 M * harry :) 1176364242 M * harry reason: once hacked, you can't load modules, you can't write to /dev/mem, /dev/kmem, /dev/port etc.. 1176364266 M * SoftIce sure, 1 thing! with grsec, can it cause issues with vserver? 1176364269 M * harry i used to patch the kmem_write function myself, but now pax does that too, so i don't need to do that myself :) 1176364275 M * harry it CAN, yes 1176364291 M * harry but normally, with my config, there are no issues 1176364297 M * SoftIce great 1176364314 M * harry you have to look out with the chroot restriction part in grsec 1176364321 M * harry check the readme :) 1176364334 M * SoftIce so harry have you ever been hacked 1176364362 M * harry with my kernels? 1176364363 M * harry no 1176364372 M * SoftIce good :) 1176364373 M * harry when i started working @ kuleuven: once 1176364387 M * SoftIce really, with a leet bind exploit? :) 1176364390 M * harry because collegue used an old debian kernel 1176364394 M * SoftIce ahh 1176364398 M * harry put php safemode off for some testing 1176364404 M * harry forgot to reenable it 1176364420 M * harry 2.4.8 kernel or so 1176364424 M * harry but that's 3 years ago 1176364430 M * harry no virtualisation etc... 1176364547 J * dghill dghill@office.mel.illuminate.com.au 1176364559 M * SoftIce harry: how did you notice you where hacked 1176364569 M * harry they took down webserver 1176364582 M * harry i was working at kuleuven for 1 month or so 1176364586 M * harry told him: upgrade it!!! 1176364596 M * harry he said: can't just do that, it's a productino server!!! 1176364604 M * harry so i said: i'm new... mkay... not then 1176364608 M * SoftIce hehehe 1176364609 M * SoftIce :) 1176364612 M * harry few days later" pWn3d 1176364622 M * SoftIce hope you said 'told you so' :() 1176364643 J * DavidS ~david@chello062178045213.16.11.tuwien.teleweb.at 1176364694 M * harry sure did! 1176364699 M * matti SoftIce: No, no. 1176364736 M * matti SoftIce: He said "you owe me 10 EUR/USD/GBP mate" :) 1176364737 M * matti ;p 1176364766 M * SoftIce i bet he said, I know it was you! 1176364774 M * matti Me? 1176364776 Q * dghill 1176364778 M * SoftIce come on, be honest, it was you, heyu :P 1176364779 M * matti No, no. 1176364785 M * harry hehe 1176364793 M * harry i wasn't here then :P 1176364793 M * matti I am innocent! 1176364807 M * Hollow matti: liar! 1176364808 M * harry i only rooted my old student group... twice ;) 1176364808 M * Hollow :) 1176364811 M * matti Hollow: No! 1176364812 M * matti ;p 1176364820 Q * softi42 Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1176364823 M * matti Hollow: You cannot proof anything ;p 1176364840 J * softi42 ~softi@p549D54DF.dip.t-dialin.net 1176364844 M * matti Hollow: I don't know you, and this is not my baby! 1176364846 M * matti Whoops. 1176364849 M * Hollow i don't need to proofe, i just define and it's ok ;) 1176364853 M * matti Not this answer ;p 1176364889 Q * yang Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1176364898 M * matti Hollow: How are you? 1176364899 M * matti ;] 1176364904 J * yang ~yang@cpe-213-157-253-172.dynamic.amis.net 1176364913 M * Hollow uhm. well. working on debian right now. nothing more to say ;) 1176365210 Q * dna synthon.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1176365210 Q * derjohn synthon.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1176365210 Q * DreamerC synthon.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1176365210 Q * mcp synthon.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1176365210 Q * duckx synthon.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1176365210 Q * doener synthon.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1176365210 Q * s0undt3ch synthon.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1176365210 Q * SNy synthon.oftc.net oxygen.oftc.net 1176365210 Q * trippeh Read error: Connection reset by peer 1176365222 J * trippeh atomt@uff.ugh.no 1176365308 J * dna ~naucki@48-203-dsl.kielnet.net 1176365308 J * derjohn ~derjohn@80.69.41.3 1176365308 J * DreamerC 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* shedi cation.oftc.net unununium.oftc.net 1176367222 Q * kir cation.oftc.net unununium.oftc.net 1176367222 Q * matti cation.oftc.net unununium.oftc.net 1176367222 Q * Nam cation.oftc.net unununium.oftc.net 1176367222 Q * ex cation.oftc.net unununium.oftc.net 1176367222 Q * Johnnie cation.oftc.net unununium.oftc.net 1176367222 Q * TrueBrain cation.oftc.net unununium.oftc.net 1176367282 Q * mattzerah cation.oftc.net galapagos.oftc.net 1176367282 Q * fs cation.oftc.net galapagos.oftc.net 1176367282 Q * glen_ cation.oftc.net galapagos.oftc.net 1176367282 Q * blizz cation.oftc.net galapagos.oftc.net 1176367282 Q * er cation.oftc.net galapagos.oftc.net 1176367282 Q * mEDI_S cation.oftc.net galapagos.oftc.net 1176367317 J * SNy ~mfr@bmx-chemnitz.de 1176367317 J * s0undt3ch ~s0undt3ch@80.69.34.154 1176367317 J * doener ~doener@host.magicwars.de 1176367317 J * duckx ~Duck@tox.dyndns.org 1176367317 J * mcp ~hightower@wolk-project.de 1176367317 J * DreamerC 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1176367464 Q * duckx panulirus.oftc.net cation.oftc.net 1176367464 Q * doener panulirus.oftc.net cation.oftc.net 1176367464 Q * s0undt3ch panulirus.oftc.net cation.oftc.net 1176367464 Q * SNy panulirus.oftc.net cation.oftc.net 1176367464 Q * mcp panulirus.oftc.net cation.oftc.net 1176367464 Q * softi42 panulirus.oftc.net cation.oftc.net 1176367464 Q * yang panulirus.oftc.net cation.oftc.net 1176367464 Q * virtuoso panulirus.oftc.net cation.oftc.net 1176367464 Q * Powerke panulirus.oftc.net cation.oftc.net 1176367464 Q * glut panulirus.oftc.net cation.oftc.net 1176367464 Q * nebuchadnezzar panulirus.oftc.net cation.oftc.net 1176367464 Q * Hollow panulirus.oftc.net cation.oftc.net 1176367464 Q * Greek0 panulirus.oftc.net cation.oftc.net 1176367464 Q * mjt panulirus.oftc.net cation.oftc.net 1176367464 Q * Loki|muh panulirus.oftc.net cation.oftc.net 1176367464 Q * Vudumen panulirus.oftc.net cation.oftc.net 1176367464 Q * SoftIce panulirus.oftc.net cation.oftc.net 1176367464 Q * FireEgl panulirus.oftc.net cation.oftc.net 1176367464 Q * lylix panulirus.oftc.net cation.oftc.net 1176367464 Q * Koffa panulirus.oftc.net cation.oftc.net 1176367464 Q * quiksilv panulirus.oftc.net cation.oftc.net 1176367464 Q * ensc panulirus.oftc.net cation.oftc.net 1176367464 Q * brcc_ panulirus.oftc.net cation.oftc.net 1176367464 Q * chand panulirus.oftc.net cation.oftc.net 1176367464 Q * besonen_mobile panulirus.oftc.net cation.oftc.net 1176367464 Q * wenchien panulirus.oftc.net cation.oftc.net 1176367464 Q * meandtheshell panulirus.oftc.net cation.oftc.net 1176367464 Q * DoberMann[PullA] panulirus.oftc.net cation.oftc.net 1176367464 Q * phedny panulirus.oftc.net cation.oftc.net 1176367464 Q * AndrewLee panulirus.oftc.net cation.oftc.net 1176367464 Q * nox panulirus.oftc.net cation.oftc.net 1176367464 Q * Guy- panulirus.oftc.net cation.oftc.net 1176367464 Q * rob-84x^ panulirus.oftc.net cation.oftc.net 1176367464 Q * michal` panulirus.oftc.net cation.oftc.net 1176367464 Q * Radiance panulirus.oftc.net cation.oftc.net 1176367464 Q * mnemoc panulirus.oftc.net cation.oftc.net 1176367464 Q * Bertl_vV panulirus.oftc.net cation.oftc.net 1176367464 Q * badari panulirus.oftc.net cation.oftc.net 1176367464 Q * kaner panulirus.oftc.net cation.oftc.net 1176367464 Q * ag- panulirus.oftc.net cation.oftc.net 1176367464 Q * FloodServ panulirus.oftc.net cation.oftc.net 1176367464 Q * Aiken panulirus.oftc.net cation.oftc.net 1176367464 Q * ktwilight panulirus.oftc.net cation.oftc.net 1176367464 Q * mire panulirus.oftc.net cation.oftc.net 1176367464 Q * bored2sleep panulirus.oftc.net cation.oftc.net 1176367464 Q * besonen panulirus.oftc.net cation.oftc.net 1176367464 Q * fosco panulirus.oftc.net cation.oftc.net 1176367464 Q * Roey panulirus.oftc.net cation.oftc.net 1176367464 Q * DavidS panulirus.oftc.net cation.oftc.net 1176367464 Q * ntrs panulirus.oftc.net cation.oftc.net 1176367464 Q * Hunger panulirus.oftc.net cation.oftc.net 1176367464 Q * ruskie panulirus.oftc.net cation.oftc.net 1176367464 Q * waldi panulirus.oftc.net cation.oftc.net 1176367464 Q * ray6 panulirus.oftc.net cation.oftc.net 1176367464 Q * daniel_hozac panulirus.oftc.net cation.oftc.net 1176367464 Q * Wonka panulirus.oftc.net cation.oftc.net 1176367464 Q * harry panulirus.oftc.net cation.oftc.net 1176367464 Q * nou panulirus.oftc.net cation.oftc.net 1176367464 Q * sc0tt panulirus.oftc.net cation.oftc.net 1176367464 Q * FaUl panulirus.oftc.net cation.oftc.net 1176367464 Q * pusling panulirus.oftc.net cation.oftc.net 1176367464 Q * Adrinael panulirus.oftc.net cation.oftc.net 1176367464 Q * weasel panulirus.oftc.net cation.oftc.net 1176367464 Q * Borg- panulirus.oftc.net cation.oftc.net 1176367464 Q * sid3windr panulirus.oftc.net cation.oftc.net 1176367464 Q * trippeh panulirus.oftc.net cation.oftc.net 1176367464 Q * infowolfe panulirus.oftc.net cation.oftc.net 1176367464 Q * phreak`` panulirus.oftc.net cation.oftc.net 1176367464 Q * micah panulirus.oftc.net cation.oftc.net 1176367464 Q * transacid panulirus.oftc.net cation.oftc.net 1176367464 Q * sladen panulirus.oftc.net cation.oftc.net 1176367464 Q * yangvnc panulirus.oftc.net cation.oftc.net 1176367464 Q * vasko panulirus.oftc.net cation.oftc.net 1176367464 Q * bXi panulirus.oftc.net cation.oftc.net 1176367502 J * bXi bluepunk@irssi.co.uk 1176367502 J * vasko ~vasko@unreal.rainside.sk 1176367502 J * yangvnc yang@static-ip-62-75-255-125.inaddr.intergenia.de 1176367502 J * sladen paul@starsky.19inch.net 1176367502 J * transacid ~transacid@transacid.de 1176367502 J * micah ~micah@micah.riseup.net 1176367502 J * phreak`` ~phreak``@deimos.barfoo.org 1176367502 J * infowolfe ~infowolfe@c-67-164-195-129.hsd1.ut.comcast.net 1176367502 J * trippeh atomt@uff.ugh.no 1176367502 J * Roey ~katz@dsl093-083-226.wdc1.dsl.speakeasy.net 1176367502 J * fosco fosco@konoha.devnullteam.org 1176367502 J * besonen ~besonen@dsl-db.pacinfo.com 1176367502 J * bored2sleep ~bored2sle@66.111.53.150 1176367502 J * mire ~mire@133-169-222-85.adsl.verat.net 1176367502 J * ktwilight ~ktwilight@247.124-66-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be 1176367502 J * Aiken ~james@ppp194-30.lns1.bne1.internode.on.net 1176367502 J * sid3windr luser@bastard-operator.from-hell.be 1176367502 J * Borg- borg@aprogas.student.utwente.nl 1176367502 J * weasel weasel@weasel.noc.oftc.net 1176367502 J * Adrinael adrinael@st12-127.tky.hut.fi 1176367502 J * pusling pusling@195.215.29.124 1176367502 J * FaUl immo@shell.chaostreff-dortmund.de 1176367502 J * sc0tt ~scott@209.51.169.84 1176367502 J * nou Chaton@causse.larzac.fr.eu.org 1176367502 J * harry ~harry@d54C2508C.access.telenet.be 1176367502 J * Wonka produziert@chaos.in-kiel.de 1176367502 J * daniel_hozac ~daniel@c-091472d5.010-230-73746f22.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se 1176367502 J * ray6 ~ray@v6v4gw.ray.net 1176367502 J * waldi ~waldi@bblank.thinkmo.de 1176367502 J * ruskie ruskie@ruskie.user.oftc.net 1176367502 J * Hunger Hunger.hu@Hunger.hu 1176367502 J * ntrs 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~irc-ensc@p54B4E22E.dip.t-dialin.net 1176367502 J * nebuchadnezzar ~nebu@zion.asgardr.info 1176367502 J * Hollow ~hollow@styx.xnull.de 1176367502 J * brcc_ bruce@i.am.someasshole.com 1176367502 J * FireEgl Proteus@adsl-147-76-85.bhm.bellsouth.net 1176367502 J * SoftIce ~psmith@dsl-244-251-28.telkomadsl.co.za 1176367502 J * chand ~chand@m167.net81-64-156.noos.fr 1176367502 J * softi42 ~softi@p549D54DF.dip.t-dialin.net 1176367502 J * yang ~yang@yang.sponsor.oftc.net 1176367502 J * dna ~naucki@48-203-dsl.kielnet.net 1176367502 J * derjohn ~derjohn@80.69.41.3 1176367502 J * DreamerC ~dreamerc@125-225-105-70.dynamic.hinet.net 1176367502 J * mcp ~hightower@wolk-project.de 1176367502 J * duckx ~Duck@tox.dyndns.org 1176367502 J * doener ~doener@host.magicwars.de 1176367502 J * s0undt3ch ~s0undt3ch@80.69.34.154 1176367502 J * SNy ~mfr@bmx-chemnitz.de 1176367502 J * meandtheshell ~markus@85-124-175-207.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at 1176367502 J * DoberMann[PullA] ~james@AToulouse-156-1-83-99.w86-196.abo.wanadoo.fr 1176367502 J * phedny ~mark@ip56538143.direct-adsl.nl 1176367502 J * AndrewLee ~andrew@flat.iis.sinica.edu.tw 1176367502 J * kaner kaner@strace.org 1176367502 J * badari ~badari@bi01p1.co.us.ibm.com 1176367502 J * ag- ~ag@zealot.plz.fr 1176367502 J * Bertl_vV herbert@IRC.13thfloor.at 1176367502 J * nox ~nox@nox.user.oftc.net 1176367502 J * Guy- qzIQ0x2eWw@chardonnay.math.bme.hu 1176367502 J * rob-84x^ ~rob@submarine.ath.cx 1176367502 J * michal` ~michal@www.rsbac.org 1176367502 J * Radiance d093f95bf2@halt.1984world.eu 1176367502 J * mnemoc ~amery@kilo105.server4you.de 1176367502 J * FloodServ services@services.oftc.net 1176367521 J * sharkjaw ~gab@158.36.45.236 1176367521 J * jkl jkl@c-67-173-253-237.hsd1.co.comcast.net 1176367521 J * shedi ~siggi@ftth-237-144.hive.is 1176367521 J * kir ~kir@swsoft-mipt-nat.sw.ru 1176367521 J * matti matti@acrux.romke.net 1176367521 J * Nam ~nam@S0106001195551ff0.va.shawcable.net 1176367521 J * Johnnie ~jdlewis@c-67-163-247-109.hsd1.pa.comcast.net 1176367521 J * ex ex@81.219.196.129 1176367521 J * TrueBrain truelight@openttd.org 1176368319 J * ||Cobra|| ~cob@pc-csa01.science.uva.nl 1176368581 J * bzed ~bzed@dslb-084-059-099-095.pools.arcor-ip.net 1176369041 Q * ensc Killed (NickServ (GHOST command used by ensc_)) 1176369051 J * ensc ~irc-ensc@p54B4E51E.dip.t-dialin.net 1176369083 Q * chand Read error: Connection reset by peer 1176369121 J * chand ~chand@m167.net81-64-156.noos.fr 1176370050 Q * Adrinael Quit: Kernel panic forces me to reboot =( 1176370819 M * SoftIce harry: when ubuntu has a kernel and they say with their patches, any idea what that would include 1176371409 M * harry their kernel, modules, patches of all kinds probably 1176371429 M * harry you could download the source package and look what's in there 1176371448 M * harry it's ubuntu, they are all hippies, so they have everything open and ready to look at 1176372062 M * SoftIce harry: based on your config, what really needs to be changed, just lan, video, chipset, 1176372073 M * SoftIce if its just a plain old sata machine? 1176372095 M * daniel_hozac Ubuntu probably has every single patch they can find... 1176372117 M * SoftIce daniel_hozac: is that a good thing? :) 1176372143 M * daniel_hozac if you want your kernel to have all sorts of random stuff in it, yes. 1176372171 M * SoftIce all sorts of random stuff, meaning generic support for any machine? 1176372172 J * GdEIP[gZc ~hollow@styx.xnull.de 1176372358 Q * Hollow Read error: Connection reset by peer 1176372411 N * GdEIP[gZc Hollow 1176372437 M * daniel_hozac well, you'd have to investigate for yourself, of course. 1176372637 Q * chand Quit: chand 1176373016 N * Hollow Hollow_ 1176373032 M * Hollow_ wth 1176373036 N * Hollow_ Hollow 1176373396 Q * Medivh Read error: Connection reset by peer 1176373396 Q * eyck_ Read error: Connection reset by peer 1176373396 Q * kajko Read error: Connection reset by peer 1176373796 T * * http://linux-vserver.org/ | latest stable 2.2.0, 2.0.3-rc2, devel 2.3.0.12, stable+grsec 2.0.2.1, 2.2.0 | util-vserver-0.30.212, 0.30.213-rc6 | libvserver-1.0.2 & vserver-utils-1.0.3 | He who asks a question is a fool for a minute; he who doesn't ask is a fool for a lifetime -- share the gained knowledge on the Wiki, and we'll forget about the minute ;) 1176373796 T * daniel_hozac - 1176373806 Q * beuss_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1176373811 Q * Curus Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1176374250 M * blizz Hollow, could you please give me the url to your patch again? 1176374275 M * Hollow blizz: which patch? 1176374305 M * blizz umm, debootstrap 1176374314 J * Curus ~Curus@10.8.185.213.dk-amb.res.sta.perspektivbredband.net 1176374315 M * blizz for vserver-build 1176374320 M * Hollow ah... http://home.xnull.de/work/vserver/util-vserver/distrib-etch-feat01.diff 1176374330 M * blizz thanks! 1176374370 J * yangvnc yang@static-ip-62-75-255-125.inaddr.intergenia.de 1176374414 M * daniel_hozac updated yet? :) 1176374762 J * john567 ~linux@196.205.216.118 1176374818 M * john567 Hi. I was wondering if someone can help me out with the following: 1176374833 M * blizz daniel_hozac, hm? 1176374851 M * blizz didn't understand, is the patch already in? 1176374871 M * john567 I'm trying to compile linux-vserver with kernel 2.6.20 with the following patch: git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/ebiederm/linux-2.6-netns.git 1176374875 M * SoftIce http://www.pastebin.ca/436103 1176374890 M * SoftIce somebody please have a look at this and tell me what small mistake im doing? 1176374924 M * john567 any ideas? 1176374941 M * SoftIce can I just ignore that error 1176374963 M * blizz confused. 1176374982 M * DavidS SoftIce: "mkdir /lib/firmware/2.6.19.7-grsec2.1.10-vs2.2.0" ? 1176375002 M * DavidS (do you _need_ any firmware for booting the machine?) 1176375013 M * daniel_hozac SoftIce: looks like it. 1176375037 M * daniel_hozac john567: hmm? what's the problem? 1176375047 M * daniel_hozac john567: i mean, other than the fact that it should be based on 2.6.21-rc6. 1176375055 M * SoftIce DavidS: no I don't need firmware 1176375086 M * SoftIce DavidS: thanks, ye creating that directory caused the errors to vanish :) 1176375091 M * DavidS good :) 1176375091 M * daniel_hozac blizz: the patch isn't in, i meant that the patch should be updated to fix the "issues" we discovered. 1176375098 M * john567 Hi daniel 1176375103 M * john567 I'm unfamiliar with using git 1176375106 M * blizz ahh, ok 1176375109 M * daniel_hozac git clone git... 1176375155 M * john567 that daniel. Also, are there instructions on what to do including compiling, using the new virtual network stack, etc.? I did a little googling and didn't come up with anything 1176375163 M * john567 oops. meant thanks daniel 1176375214 M * daniel_hozac well, it's a highly experimental patchset. 1176375221 M * daniel_hozac you're sort of expected to figure that out for yourself ;) 1176375275 M * SoftIce h0 h0 h0 and a bottle of rum :) 1176375293 M * SoftIce you're sort of expected to figure that out for yourself ;) 1176375294 M * SoftIce haha :) 1176375319 M * SoftIce pfft, the weather in this dam country causes such wierd thing with my printer cartridges :( 1176375336 M * SoftIce keep having to replace new cartridges as the nozzles get messed up some or other way 1176375348 M * SoftIce or i'm forced to print everyday to prevent that from happening 1176375403 J * Piet hiddenserv@tor.noreply.org 1176375942 J * Adrinael adrinael@st12-127.tky.hut.fi 1176376254 J * SoftIce_ ~phil@dsl-244-251-28.telkomadsl.co.za 1176376256 M * SoftIce_ hmmm 1176376261 M * SoftIce_ [ 133.948741] device-mapper: ioctl: error adding target to table 1176376262 M * SoftIce_ [ 133.949784] device-mapper: table: 253:0: linear: dm-linear: Device lookup failed 1176376267 M * SoftIce_ any idea why i'm getting millions of these? 1176376302 M * daniel_hozac do you have dm-linear? 1176376311 M * SoftIce_ not that i'm aware of? 1176376313 M * SoftIce_ don't even know what it is 1176376327 M * SoftIce_ is it something to do with lvm ? 1176376686 M * SoftIce_ nevr mind found it under raid options 1176376695 M * john567 daniel_hozac: okay. Any idea where I can get the patch for vanilla kernel 2.6.20.4 1176376716 M * SoftIce_ john567: why not use 2.6.19 ? 1176376724 M * SoftIce_ not much testing has been done with 20 1176376736 M * SoftIce_ and you can use harrys grsec enabled patch too 1176376753 M * daniel_hozac john567: for the latest patchset? i don't think there is any. 1176376800 M * john567 daniel_hozac: so it's either 2.6.21-rc6 with the patch or 2.6.20 with the lxc.sourceforge.net patch? 1176376814 M * john567 SoftIce: Is the patch available for 2.6.19? 1176376814 M * daniel_hozac pretty much. 1176376822 M * daniel_hozac after all, it's aiming for mm. 1176376844 M * daniel_hozac and mm tracks current, not some old release... 1176376865 M * SoftIce_ john567: well im not sure what patch you are looking for. 1176376866 M * john567 daniel_hozac: okay. Is there a planned timeline for vserver to be integrated into the kernel? 1176376884 M * daniel_hozac john567: vserver as is? no. 1176376897 M * daniel_hozac containers are slowly making their way into the kernel though. 1176376906 M * john567 SoftIce: I'm looking for ebiederm's netns patch (Layer 2 Networking) 1176376940 M * SoftIce_ and you have this patch for 2.6.20 ? 1176376956 M * john567 SoftIce: The patch is available for 2.6.21-r6 as mentioned above 1176376969 M * SoftIce_ sorry, i cant get to that screen :) 1176376975 M * john567 SoftIce: there is a separate patch for 2.6.20 from someone else (lxc.sourceforge.net) 1176377003 M * daniel_hozac well, those are basically ebiederm's patches, but an older series. 1176377014 M * john567 SoftIce: but daniel_hozac recommends ebiederm's patch 1176377032 M * SoftIce_ well i'd listen to what he has to say :) 1176377033 M * john567 SoftIce: which as far as I know, is only available for 2.6.21-r6 (unless I'm mistaken) 1176377047 M * john567 SoftIce: you're probably right :) 1176377060 M * SoftIce_ he normally doesn't recomend something unless he is right 1176377106 M * john567 SoftIce: so it looks like I either have to brave the 2.6.21-r6 with an unstable vserver + a patch 1176377126 M * john567 SoftIce: or stick with 2.6.20 and a stable vserver + a not-recommended patch 1176377131 M * daniel_hozac there is no Linux-VServer patch for 2.6.21* 1176377157 M * john567 daniel_hozac: really? So how can I use ebiederm's patch then? 1176377171 M * daniel_hozac well, i don't know. that's up to you.... 1176377192 M * john567 daniel_hozac: excellent :) You've made up my mind. 1176377207 M * john567 I'll stick with v2.6.20 + the not-recommended patch and see what comes of it 1176377210 M * john567 :) 1176377259 M * daniel_hozac you realize the patches likely won't just merge without problems? 1176377305 M * john567 daniel_hozac: no. I didn't. :( 1176377327 M * SoftIce_ john567: why the sudden need? 1176377334 M * SoftIce_ and how where you able to live without it before? 1176377505 M * john567 SoftIce: Actually, I'm new to linux-vserver and was trying to set up a test environment that I currently need for work 1176377520 M * john567 Softice: I've used UML in the past but several issues made me look elsewhere 1176378464 M * waldi hmm, what is the current quality of the ipv6 patches? 1176378484 M * daniel_hozac should work fine. 1176378550 Q * SoftIce_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1176378739 Q * DavidS Quit: Leaving. 1176378820 J * SoftIce_ ~phil@dsl-244-251-28.telkomadsl.co.za 1176378833 M * SoftIce_ capabilities are not enabled in kernel-setup 1176378838 M * SoftIce_ where abouts in the kernel would I find this 1176378843 M * daniel_hozac hmm? 1176378843 M * SoftIce_ I can't find anything with grep and my .config 1176378846 M * daniel_hozac what makes you think that+ 1176378854 M * SoftIce_ well because when I try to start a vserver 1176378857 M * SoftIce_ should I pastbin ? 1176378859 M * daniel_hozac the Linux-VServer patch should force that. 1176378874 Q * Aiken Quit: Leaving 1176378877 J * DavidS ~david@chello062178045213.16.11.tuwien.teleweb.at 1176378914 M * SoftIce_ http://www.pastebin.ca/436233 1176378919 M * waldi daniel_hozac: what is the current source for this patches? 1176378962 M * daniel_hozac http://people.linux-vserver.org/~bonbons/ipv6/ 1176378966 M * waldi ah, found it 1176378978 M * daniel_hozac i haven't done any rediffs lately. 1176379050 M * SoftIce_ daniel_hozac: this is harry's .config 1176379078 M * daniel_hozac SoftIce_: ask him then ;) 1176379095 M * daniel_hozac looks like your utils are broken though. 1176379105 M * SoftIce_ broken ? 1176379137 M * daniel_hozac yes. 1176379143 M * daniel_hozac do you have anything in dmesg? 1176379169 M * SoftIce_ daniel_hozac: should I just add CONFIG_SECURITY_CAPABILITIES=y 1176379178 M * SoftIce_ to the .config and re'run make && ... 1176379212 M * nou any pointer/url on additionnal doc/howto on vpuset ? (before i ask here :)) 1176379219 M * nou grrr 1176379236 M * SoftIce_ http://www.pastebin.ca/436240 1176379241 M * SoftIce_ please dont laught at my dmesg :P 1176379247 M * SoftIce_ i've just removed gadgets out the kernel 1176379256 M * SoftIce_ so i'm sure that will clean up a few errors 1176379485 M * waldi daniel_hozac: hmm, i hope it is stable 1176379551 M * daniel_hozac waldi: hmm? 1176379740 Q * SoftIce_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1176379757 M * SoftIce hmm, lets see how this goes 1176380607 J * Dimas ~abramd_05@89.105.147.122 1176380626 Q * shedi Quit: Leaving 1176381307 N * bzed bzed|afk 1176381377 M * SoftIce blah, for the love of me I can't see where to add CONFIG_SECURITY_CAPABILITIES in the kernel 1176381384 J * ema ~ema@rtfm.galliera.it 1176381391 M * harry SoftIce: the best way to load modules in a kernel with no modules support... 1176381399 M * harry as i said... it's impossible to load modules ;) 1176381406 M * harry you can off course just enable module support ;) 1176381423 M * SoftIce harry: that isn't my problem anymore 1176381426 M * SoftIce ive enabled module support 1176381436 M * SoftIce but I don't have CONFIGURE_SECURITY_CAP.... enabled in the kernel 1176381439 M * SoftIce your .config doesn't 1176381458 M * SoftIce and I can't just add CONFIG_SECURITY_CAPABILITIES=m to .config and make modules_install 1176381461 M * SoftIce as it just clears my modifications 1176381475 M * harry could be 1176381481 M * harry you should do that in menuconfig 1176381488 M * harry probably because of dependencies or so 1176381499 M * SoftIce yes, any idea where I would find CONFIG_SECURITY_CAP. .. ? 1176381512 M * harry brr... jumping from do_brk memory stuff to this... feels odd :) 1176381513 M * SoftIce i've looked all over the kern config 1176381520 M * harry why would you want that? 1176381523 M * waldi vserver explicitely enables capability support 1176381532 M * SoftIce waldi: no it doesn't in my case 1176381551 M * waldi grep SECURITY_CAPABILITIES **/Kconfig* 1176381577 M * SoftIce security/Kconfig:config SECURITY_CAPABILITIES 1176381586 M * waldi kernel/vserver/Kconfig: select SECURITY_CAPABILITIES 1176381588 M * waldi this is missing 1176381593 M * waldi incorrect patch? 1176381601 M * SoftIce nope, using harry's .config 1176381610 M * waldi not config, patch 1176381638 M * harry ? 1176381667 M * SoftIce waldi: well I can't patch it as its allready patched 1176381690 M * harry waldi: what version do you have/ 1176381691 M * harry ? 1176381699 M * waldi 2.2.0 1176381747 M * harry i don't have that anywhere in my source-tree 1176381769 M * waldi checksum of the patch? 1176381809 M * harry waldi: what kernel? 1176381820 M * waldi 2.6.20 1176381869 M * waldi it is even there in 2.0.3 on 2.6.18 1176381874 M * SoftIce waldi: so what are you trying to tell me? 1176381900 M * SoftIce my patch is missing something? 1176381911 M * harry config:/usr/local/config/kernel/linux-2.6.19.7-g-v-ic# grep SECURITY_CAPABILITIES kernel/vserver/Kconfig* select SECURITY_CAPABILITIES 1176381922 M * harry haha, i get it 1176381926 M * harry what shell do you use, waldi ? 1176381932 M * waldi zsh 1176381939 M * harry bash doesnt expand that ** ;) 1176381956 M * harry it's the same as: */Kconfig* 1176381963 M * harry which... only searches 1 level deep 1176381964 M * waldi hrm 1176381973 M * harry ==> doesn't find the kernel/vserver/Kconfig 1176381983 M * harry battle of the shells! ;) 1176382010 M * SoftIce this all still leaves me confused on what to do 1176382065 M * harry nothing, SoftIce :) 1176382071 M * harry what is your problem? 1176382098 M * SoftIce i've told you 1176382101 M * SoftIce I can't start a vserver 1176382103 M * SoftIce let me pastebin 1176382144 M * SoftIce http://www.pastebin.ca/436306 1176382182 M * harry that's with my kernel config? 1176382189 M * SoftIce yup 1176382197 M * harry on what machine? 1176382204 M * harry 32/64 bit? 1176382214 M * SoftIce 32 bit 1176382233 M * SoftIce check here 1176382245 M * SoftIce config-2.6.17-11-server:CONFIG_SECURITY_CAPABILITIES=m 1176382246 M * SoftIce config-2.6.17-11-vserver-generic:CONFIG_SECURITY_CAPABILITIES=y 1176382250 M * SoftIce all my other kerenls have it 1176382268 M * SoftIce so all I really want to know is where in make menuconfig do I select CONFIGURE_SECURITY_CAPABILITIES ? 1176382311 M * harry i don't have that either, but it works on my systems... so... lets see whats happening :) 1176382337 M * SoftIce strange, i've tried the util-vserver from debian and the the 1 from source 1176382339 M * SoftIce I get the same thing 1176382478 M * harry lets see where/what that capabilities thing does, how it's defined etc... 1176382494 M * SoftIce well if I grep from another .config 1176382495 M * SoftIce its here 1176382571 M * SoftIce http://www.pastebin.ca/436317 1176382576 M * SoftIce thats from another kern config that works 1176382662 M * SoftIce http://www.pastebin.ca/436318 1176382667 M * SoftIce this is straight from your site 1176382676 M * SoftIce it tells you check if its enabled 1176382771 M * harry found it! 1176382819 M * SoftIce oh reeeaaaly? 1176382825 M * harry go to: security options 1176382842 M * harry when you enable : Enable different security models 1176382851 M * harry you see an expanded "config" 1176382859 M * harry Default Linux Capabilities 1176382862 M * SoftIce *looks* 1176382863 M * harry there it is 1176382867 M * harry you can't enable/disable that 1176382874 M * harry because it's automatically compiled in 1176382960 M * harry do you have a "special" config, that you need those options??? 1176382972 M * harry because i don't have them enabled and everything works on my systems :S 1176382975 M * SoftIce CONFIG_SECURITY_CAPABILITIES=y 1176382977 M * SoftIce smart :) 1176382989 M * SoftIce not that i'm aware 1176382994 M * SoftIce seems like util-vserver needs them? 1176383006 N * Dimas Dima 1176383009 M * harry what version of the tools areyou running? 1176383013 N * Dima Dimaska 1176383040 M * SoftIce well I had the latest version from the site 1176383044 M * SoftIce built late 2006 1176383050 M * harry 0.30.212 1176383055 M * harry of 213-rcX 1176383064 M * SoftIce now downgraded to the 1 debian has 1176383067 M * SoftIce let me version it 1176383088 M * SoftIce util-vserver-0.30.212.tar.bz2 1176383093 M * SoftIce thats the 1 I used but never worked 1176383100 M * SoftIce so I removed it and installed the 1 ubuntu has 1176383101 M * SoftIce let me check 1176383110 M * harry odd... i use the 212 everywhere :) 1176383155 M * SoftIce root@fs:~# vserver --version 1176383155 M * SoftIce vserver 0.30.212 -- manages the state of vservers 1176383155 M * SoftIce This program is part of util-vserver 0.30.212 1176383158 M * SoftIce yup, 212 1176383173 N * bzed|afk bzed 1176383188 M * harry can you zcat /proc/config.gz and put that online? the grsec and the vserver part? 1176383199 M * harry well... security + vserver part;) 1176383210 M * SoftIce "2.6.19.7-grsec2.1.10******************0****---1----+-grsec2.1.10-vs2.2.0******************0****---1----+-vs2.2.0" exceeds 64 characters 1176383210 M * SoftIce make: *** [include/linux/utsrelease.h] Error 1 1176383211 M * SoftIce wow 1176383218 M * SoftIce now my kernel is toasted 1176383219 M * SoftIce :) 1176383242 M * harry lol 1176383246 M * harry what does uname -a give you? 1176383282 M * SoftIce harry naa, this is an error when doing a make with my kernel 1176383284 M * harry and what patches have you done to your kernel? 1176383286 M * SoftIce kernel make sorry 1176383290 M * harry i know that :) 1176383292 M * SoftIce no patches, your config 1176383297 M * harry ???? 1176383302 M * harry vanilla kernel? 1176383303 M * SoftIce Linux fs.inet-corp.com 2.6.19.7-grsec2.1.10-vs2.2.0 #5 SMP Thu Apr 12 14:20:24 SAST 2007 i686 GNU/Linux 1176383319 M * SoftIce yup straight from kernel.org :) 1176383323 M * harry let me get things straight... 1176383329 M * harry you take a kernel from kernel.org 1176383332 M * harry you unpack 1176383346 M * harry patch -p` < patchfromme.diff 1176383350 M * harry patch -p1 < patchfromme.diff 1176383352 M * harry off course 1176383366 M * harry then copy config-2.6.19.7-g-v to /.config 1176383368 M * harry make menuconfig 1176383374 M * SoftIce correct 1176383375 M * harry maybe add some drivers 1176383379 M * harry make 1176383382 M * harry etc... 1176383388 M * harry boot it, that's it? 1176383388 M * SoftIce just remeber this was working untill a few seconds ago when I added this extra security tghing 1176383399 M * SoftIce I was able to build the kernel 1176383429 M * SoftIce now even removing it doesn't work 1176383433 M * SoftIce guess something else is messed 1176383437 M * SoftIce going to have to start fresh :P 1176383438 M * SoftIce dam 1176383445 M * harry you probably messed up something in the code then? 1176383457 J * chand ~chand@m167.net81-64-156.noos.fr 1176383514 M * SoftIce ye, maybe patching twice or something 1176383524 M * harry that's never a good thing :) 1176383531 M * SoftIce *hides* 1176383540 M * harry hehe 1176383636 M * SoftIce config-2.6.19.7-g-v 12-Apr-2007 09:32 43K 1176383640 M * SoftIce this is the config to use, correct? 1176383784 M * harry yes 1176383796 J * Psy-Q ~bar@despair.snm-hgkz.ch 1176383803 M * Psy-Q hello again :) 1176383817 M * SoftIce harry is your opinion and based on your expertese :) what grsec functionality should be disbled not to see this 1176383818 M * SoftIce http://www.pastebin.ca/436335 1176383838 M * Psy-Q i am tasked to ask you whether linux-vserver has something akin to openvz's vzsplit, which takes a look at your physical hardware and spits out configurations for each vserver that make sure all of them don't overbook the hardware 1176384081 M * harry SoftIce: some logging thing? 1176384089 M * harry or recompile your vserver utils 1176384091 N * Dimaska r0ach 1176384097 M * harry i don't get those errors 1176384148 N * r0ach Abram 1176384503 M * SoftIce kewl 1176384504 M * SoftIce let me look 1176385230 M * blizz where can i get 0.30.216-rc6? snapshot only? 1176385309 M * nou hmm the only way to restrict a guest to a specific cpu is to use cpusets isn't it ? 1176385536 M * blizz got it. 1176385562 M * doener nou: IIRC the per-CPU TBS should also work, but I don't know if it's in 2.2 1176385783 M * nou ok, i've just read http://linux-vserver.org/CPU_Scheduler but i'm not sure that's exactly what i want 1176385790 M * nou cheers 1176385926 Q * chand Quit: chand 1176386051 M * blizz Hollow, is it possible that the directory distrib/etch won't be included in a make install/make install-distribution? 1176386122 M * Hollow sure, but i don't see a reason why not to include it 1176386193 M * blizz oh, i thought the Makefile would also be patched to include it 1176386237 M * blizz i just modified the Pkgfile for my linux distribution to use 0.30.213-rc6 (which patches fine) and apply the patch and noticed that the footprint didnt include etch 1176386278 M * SoftIce dam @#%*%**#%@*@#% kernel compile takes for ever 1176386287 M * SoftIce i'd like to benchmark this same compile on a core duo 1176386317 M * harry hehe 1176387549 N * Abram Dimas 1176387690 M * Hollow blizz: the Makefile is patched to include it 1176387697 M * Hollow i thought you wanted to not include it 1176388707 Q * Psy-Q Quit: ... 1176388879 M * matti Hollow: Did you saw my question? 1176388927 M * Hollow i neither did saw it nor did i see it :P 1176389052 M * blizz oh 1176389057 M * blizz strange.. 1176389090 A * Hollow stabs matti 1176389103 M * Hollow what was your querstion about? :) 1176389109 M * matti Heh. 1176389134 M * matti Hollow: Is there a dynamic RDEPEND? I pressume - no. 1176389145 M * Hollow what do you mean by dynamic? 1176389197 M * matti http://gentoo-wiki.com/MAN_ebuild_5 1176389207 M * matti "Dynamic DEPENDs" 1176389219 M * matti You know, all those DEPEND atoms. 1176389221 A * matti is tired. 1176389285 M * Hollow uh.. dynamic does not fit here IMO but ok .. 1176389290 M * Hollow it's more like conditional 1176389300 M * Hollow but it does work in RDEPEND too 1176389348 Q * infowolfe Quit: Leaving 1176389396 J * marcfiu ~mef@aegis.CS.Princeton.EDU 1176389465 M * marcfiu can someone tell me what the vV for Bertl_vV means? 1176389470 M * matti Hollow: Really? 1176389470 M * marcfiu Does that mean he's on vacation? 1176389478 M * daniel_hozac marcfiu: yeah. 1176389484 M * matti Hollow: How so? Do you have an example? 1176389505 M * marcfiu daniel_hozac: does that mean he has an active connection or is Bertl_vV a bot or something else? 1176389523 M * Hollow matti: sure, why shouldn't wit work? RDEPEND="foo? (app-misc/foo)" 1176389533 M * daniel_hozac marcfiu: that's just his regular IRC session, he stops by every now and then. 1176389570 J * infowolfe ~infowolfe@c-67-164-195-129.hsd1.ut.comcast.net 1176389599 M * matti Hollow: In this case, there's nothig about this in documentation or I am too tired to find it. 1176389751 M * Hollow matti: well, documentation of ebuild internals in general is pretty poor 1176389789 M * marcfiu daniel_hozac: ok... so it means he's got connectivity from his hotel or whatever. 1176389808 M * daniel_hozac marcfiu: i guess so. 1176390347 Q * nou Remote host closed the connection 1176390362 J * chand ~chand@m167.net81-64-156.noos.fr 1176391146 M * blizz Hollow: nope, i didn't modify the patch at all. it also creates all the files and make the modifications right. but etch wont be included for some mysterious reason... 1176391190 M * daniel_hozac blizz: did you rerun autoreconf -fi? 1176391199 M * daniel_hozac or make -f Makefile.svn? 1176391235 M * blizz ugh. 1176391328 M * blizz nope, forgat that :/ sorry 1176393480 Q * Dimas Quit: pIRC v2.0 < Personal IRC Team > http://xirc.ru/ 1176393733 Q * john567 Quit: using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.12 1176393824 M * AndrewLee After I added flags and schedule settings for a guest, the guest won't start anymore, I got: vsched: non-numeric value specified for '--priority_bias' 1176393852 M * AndrewLee the flags and schedule settings are http://paste.linux-vserver.org/1410 1176394184 M * daniel_hozac why are you using the legacy schedule file? 1176394195 M * daniel_hozac with invalid values, nonetheless? 1176394240 M * AndrewLee daniel_hozac: Oops, I don't know it's legacy schedule file. 1176394247 M * daniel_hozac replace dummy with the priority bias you want, e.g. 0 for none. 1176394257 M * AndrewLee daniel_hozac: yap, it works. 1176394274 M * AndrewLee daniel_hozac: what's different between 0 ane none? 1176394288 J * bonbons ~bonbons@83.222.38.145 1176394303 M * daniel_hozac what? 1176394379 M * AndrewLee daniel_hozac: I mean for the priority bias values 1176394392 M * daniel_hozac what about it? 1176394447 M * AndrewLee daniel_hozac: let me check the wiki for the new schedule file document 1176394466 M * daniel_hozac there is none, AFAIK. 1176394583 M * AndrewLee I got it! The great flower page said schedule file has deprecated; use sched instead. 1176394644 J * nou Chaton@causse.larzac.fr.eu.org 1176394870 M * daniel_hozac yep. 1176394972 J * stefani ~stefani@flute.radonc.washington.edu 1176395141 M * AndrewLee daniel_hozac: I got it runs again. Thanks a lot. 1176395193 M * daniel_hozac np. 1176395553 Q * SoftIce 1176396969 J * Piet_ hiddenserv@tor.noreply.org 1176397079 Q * Piet Remote host closed the connection 1176397357 Q * ema Quit: leaving 1176398189 M * blizz hmm, the generated /etc/apt/sources.list seems to be wrong. 1176398775 J * Aiken ~james@ppp194-30.lns1.bne1.internode.on.net 1176399107 Q * chand Quit: chand 1176399509 J * rasmus ~rasmus@v.backster.dk 1176399665 M * rasmus hi. I have created a bash script that "automates" the creation of a new vserver. If it's not a common thing, seen several times before maybe someone would like it, or maybe even publish it on the vserver website. If you are interested take a look: http://v.backster.dk/tools/vsetup I'm logging off soon, so if you have anything to say (comments/flame/flaws etc), please email me. 1176399694 M * daniel_hozac what does it do that vserver .. build doesn't? 1176399804 M * rasmus it online copies the skeletons (cfg and server files) and inserts the right hostname, nodename and ip.. It's not a big script, but might save you some time once in a while if you do make a lot of new vservers on your machine (as I do). this is my first bash script. If you don't like it, don't use it. I only wanted to share this one with others in case you could find it useful 1176399813 M * rasmus online = only 1176399863 M * daniel_hozac seems easier to just use vserver ... build? 1176399871 M * daniel_hozac what am i missing? 1176399955 M * rasmus I guess nothing. I don't know vserver build. 1176399957 M * blizz is a corrupt /etc/apt/sources.list one of the issues of installing etch via vserver ... build? 1176399975 M * rasmus But sorry to disturb you all :) 1176399978 M * daniel_hozac blizz: what does corrupt mean? 1176399979 M * rasmus Have a nice day. 1176399985 P * rasmus 1176400038 M * blizz http://dpaste.com/8384/ 1176400055 M * blizz err, it's deb-src 1176400067 M * blizz but deb-src is also in the file itself, just a typo by me. 1176400113 M * daniel_hozac blizz: and you applied Hollow's patch, right? 1176400127 M * blizz yep 1176400144 M * blizz does it look like it didn't really patch? i could check that again. 1176400160 M * daniel_hozac you didn't specify a mirror on the command line, right? 1176400183 M * blizz right! *argh* no default mirror set, hm? 1176400204 M * blizz i just grepped distribution/etch/initpost for mirror, and, well.. you already know it. 1176400235 M * daniel_hozac well, thanks. 1176400243 M * daniel_hozac yet another thing for Hollow to fix before i merge it ;) 1176400262 M * blizz lol 1176400271 M * blizz so it will get into rc7? :-) 1176400285 M * daniel_hozac i don't see why not. 1176400286 M * blizz Hollow, dude! responsibility! :D 1176400335 M * daniel_hozac i'd prefer not to do an rc7 though. the release is already several months overdue, IMHO. 1176400365 M * blizz oh, so 0.30.213 final 1176400366 N * DoberMann[PullA] DoberMann 1176400929 J * boci^ ~boci@pool-7505.adsl.interware.hu 1176401282 Q * Piet_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1176401341 J * Piet_ hiddenserv@tor.noreply.org 1176401458 J * bronson ~bronson@66.237.74.66.ptr.us.xo.net 1176401638 J * shedi ~siggi@ftth-237-144.hive.is 1176401873 M * blizz i never knew that vserver ... build rocks that much. 1176403551 M * daniel_hozac CentOS 5 released. 1176404505 J * dreamind ~dreamind@C2107.campino.wh.tu-darmstadt.de 1176405201 M * Hollow daniel_hozac: guess we'll look at source vs. exec for 214 then? 1176405249 M * Hollow well, no default mirror being set is a problem of the debootstrap method imo .. but i can fix it of course ;) 1176405410 J * ema ~ema@rtfm.galliera.it 1176405790 Q * phreak`` Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1176405800 Q * Hollow Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1176405899 Q * Roey Quit: Leaving 1176405928 J * Roey ~katz@dsl093-083-226.wdc1.dsl.speakeasy.net 1176406051 P * Roey 1176406054 J * Hollow ~hollow@styx.xnull.de 1176406080 A * Hollow sighs 1176406118 M * sid3windr it broke again? 1176406156 M * Hollow yeah, strangely enough it always happens in the evening ... this has to be some cron script 1176406214 M * Koffa cleaning woman? 1176406219 M * Koffa :} 1176406533 M * Hollow jee.. 2-5 failed sshd logins per second in some logs .. 1176406557 M * Hollow but that's not really the cause i'm looking for ;) 1176406882 M * Hollow ok, i added 10G more swap now, let's see ;) 1176406899 M * sid3windr swap kills 1176406909 M * Hollow ? 1176406923 M * Hollow kind of other way round :) 1176407106 M * sid3windr no :) 1176407116 M * sid3windr well, it depends on definitions ofcourse ;) 1176407141 M * sid3windr but if something is eating your memory and your machine ends up thrashing, it'll be dead 1176407149 M * sid3windr if you don't have swap oomkiller strikes and everyone is happy again 1176407162 M * sid3windr for varying values of happy, because it always kills the wrong stuff ofcourse 1176407166 M * sid3windr but the box should live through it 1176407228 M * Hollow seemingly not :) the box is just unresponsive .. i even had a KVMoIP attached to it and i was unable to login.. i waited 15 mins for the password prompt to appear, nothing happened 1176407303 M * sid3windr but you have swap, right? :) 1176407306 M * sid3windr or you didn't have swap at all? 1176407313 M * Hollow yes, 2G before, 12G now 1176407319 M * sid3windr that's it then :> 1176407331 J * Jomep ~jomep@p50844288.dip0.t-ipconnect.de 1176407335 M * sid3windr I had a remote box kill itself multiple times 1176407349 M * Hollow you mean the hardware dies? 1176407354 M * sid3windr no, the os 1176407361 M * Hollow obviously 1176407365 M * sid3windr it went out of memory, people kept hitting a site which needed mysql queries, mysqld was swapped out, it needed to be swapped in 1176407380 M * sid3windr while swapping in, apache clients kept spawning while the others were waiting for the mysql data to come back 1176407386 M * sid3windr some of them got swapped out 1176407391 M * sid3windr then got swapped back in, causing mysql to swap out 1176407396 M * sid3windr goto 10 1176407396 M * sid3windr :p 1176407401 M * Hollow heh, yeah 1176407417 M * sid3windr I ended up driving up there and adding a Gig'O'RAM :p 1176407417 M * Hollow i will try to put some guests on other boxes 1176407434 M * Hollow i need to distribute my nameservers anyway 1176407439 M * sid3windr it's in amsterdam, and I'm in belgium ;/ 1176407470 M * Jomep Hi, stupid question, when I create a vserver with a certain IP x, and install e.g. a webserver port 80 NOT for this IP but for * (or 0.0.0.0), and the host has multiple IP addresses, this * is then somehow by virtualization only valid for IP x, right? 1176407486 M * Hollow right 1176407496 M * Jomep ok 1176408470 M * DavidS Jomep: but if you have something in the host context on *:80, then no guest can bind to it 1176408522 M * Jomep yep, that I know. So only the host is the problem, not the guests anymore 1176408584 M * Jomep I have 2 IP addresses for my server. I would probably create two vserver guests then, and have no service besides SSH for the one IP on the host... 1176408595 M * DavidS Hollow, sid3windr: http://www.coker.com.au/memlockd/ 1176408618 M * sid3windr woot 1176408619 M * sid3windr :) 1176408622 M * sid3windr sounds interesting 1176408628 M * Hollow mhm 1176408633 M * Hollow works for ssh too? 1176408649 M * sid3windr via the console or via ssh. 1176408650 M * sid3windr :) 1176408657 M * DavidS Jomep: nowadays I always create vservers for every "service" .. puppet has helped here a lot! 1176408702 M * Jomep puppet? 1176408714 M * Jomep ah 1176408744 M * Jomep http://puppet.reductivelabs.com/ 1176408754 M * DavidS yeah exactly 1176408754 M * Hollow no ebuild for memlockd .. wth .. 1176408776 M * DavidS Hollow: the debian package (by cocker Himself) is only a few days old :-P 1176408830 M * sid3windr (coker) 1176408838 M * Hollow i see 1176408858 A * DavidS blushes 1176409193 J * yarihm ~yarihm@84-75-97-207.dclient.hispeed.ch 1176409308 M * Hollow ok, memlockd running .. :) 1176409555 M * daniel_hozac haha, nice typo DavidS ;) 1176409651 M * sid3windr tsk daniel_hozac get your mind out of the gutter! 1176409681 M * daniel_hozac sorry, it's almost bed time so i'm easily amused ;) 1176409689 M * sid3windr :) 1176409960 Q * Jomep 1176410766 J * DreamerC_ ~dreamerc@125-225-96-96.dynamic.hinet.net 1176410791 M * micah DavidS: do you have your puppet recipes anywhere? 1176411093 Q * bonbons Quit: Leaving 1176411145 Q * DreamerC Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1176411713 Q * dreamind Quit: dreamind 1176411849 Q * lylix Remote host closed the connection 1176411901 M * DavidS micah: I have posted a few things to the wiki and the ml already. they're really just slightly beyond the level of "working hack". do you need something peculiar? 1176411992 A * DavidS perhaps I should take this as final push to plop the whole thing into a vcs 1176412180 M * DavidS and i have to do a little review, that i have no keys or similar in my manifests 1176412874 M * micah DavidS: i dont have anything particular ATM, but as I need to start doing this with puppet I was interested in seeing how others have done it 1176412894 M * micah DavidS: i'll check out your ML/wiki stuff 1176413144 M * DavidS you can start at http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/tags/puppet%2Crecipe for hands on examples 1176413208 M * blizz so.. linux-vserver uses git, yes? 1176413244 M * blizz or was it subversion? 1176413300 Q * infowolfe Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1176413502 M * hardwire how the futz are the coralcdn people running nfs-kernel-server in vserver 1176413552 P * marcfiu 1176413595 M * micah DavidS: yeah, I've used some of those recipes for puppet already, I was more interested in vserver specific ones 1176413668 M * DavidS i have not much VS-specific there .. i create them manually with a shell script and within the vserver i mostly use my standard "add the things i need and push my $HOME there" manifest 1176413698 Q * Johnnie Remote host closed the connection 1176413709 M * micah ah ok, I was thinking you had a way to build a new vserver from puppet 1176413739 M * micah or some cleanup scripts or something 1176413826 M * DavidS probably the most intrusive thing my manifests have is that many services (like munin and apache2) have possibilities to configure the port and ip 1176413999 Q * ema Quit: leaving 1176414031 P * stefani I'm Parting (the water) 1176416708 Q * boci^ Quit: Távozom 1176416791 N * DoberMann DoberMann[ZZZzzz] 1176417360 Q * DavidS Quit: Leaving. 1176418188 Q * dna Quit: Verlassend 1176418899 Q * yarihm Quit: Leaving 1176419967 J * lylix ~eric@dynamic-acs-24-154-33-9.zoominternet.net 1176421402 J * Piet__ hiddenserv@tor.noreply.org 1176421607 Q * Piet_ Remote host closed the connection 1176422138 J * DoberMann_ ~james@AToulouse-156-1-19-153.w86-196.abo.wanadoo.fr 1176422245 Q * DoberMann[ZZZzzz] Ping timeout: 480 seconds