1175817843 M * slack101 guest
1175817994 M * jkl well, there may be a /boot there ... but it should probably be empty
1175818001 M * jkl you don't really need a /boot in a guest.
1175818017 M * slack101 yea hm,mm
1175818037 M * slack101 good good
1175818064 M * jkl you figure out the tar command?
1175818087 M * slack101 tar cvf  --exclude=dev,proc,tmp,sys distro.tar / 
1175818092 M * slack101 that look right ?
1175818311 M * slack101 or hmmm
1175818380 Q * Piet_ Quit: Piet_
1175818442 M * jkl well, it won't hurt to try eh?
1175818478 M * jkl I would have the vserver shut down
1175818480 M * slack101 didnt work :D
1175818482 M * jkl and do it from the host
1175818487 M * slack101 of course
1175818554 M * slack101 grrr
1175818557 M * jkl sudo tar -czpvf backup.tgz --exclude=/boot ./root_dir_of_your_vserver/
1175818569 M * jkl that makes a gzip'd tar
1175818583 M * jkl oh, and sorry about the sudo
1175818590 M * jkl you prob don't need that if you'
1175818592 M * jkl re root
1175818656 M * slack101 can i add more directories ?
1175818663 M * jkl try it out
1175818683 M * jkl it's just a computer, you can do something wrong a thousand times and it doesn't care
1175818705 M * jkl you do run the risk of breaking something in some circumstances
1175818711 M * jkl but that's the best way to learn
1175818732 M * jkl just don't do dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda
1175818742 M * jkl or cd /;rm -rf *
1175818930 J * besonen_mobile_ ~besonen_m@71-220-225-182.eugn.qwest.net
1175819085 M * slack101 not working grrrrrrrr
1175819123 M * slack101 tar -czpvf backup.tgz --exclude=/boot,mnt,dev,proc,sys,tmp /
1175819126 M * slack101 does not wrk
1175819151 M * jkl ok, first off, does using just /boot work?
1175819168 M * slack101 dont know
1175819171 M * jkl and secondly, why are you using '/' ?
1175819176 M * slack101 i am running the thing in vmware 
1175819179 M * slack101 huh ?
1175819194 J * Wonka_ produziert@chaos.in-kiel.de
1175819194 Q * Wonka Read error: Connection reset by peer
1175819305 M * jkl what is the error that you gett?
1175819311 Q * besonen_mobile Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1175819590 M * jkl grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
1175819611 M * jkl welp, time to take a little drive to the data center...
1175819628 M * jkl i *knew* that wasn't going to work the way I planned...
1175820012 M * slack101 hmmmmmmmmm
1175820020 M * slack101 stilll not working :D
1175820714 Q * ema Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1175821114 J * ema ~ema@rtfm.galliera.it
1175821242 M * phycho hey guys, does vserver have any sort of throttle on the cpu by defaut?
1175821245 M * phycho *default
1175821486 M * phycho nm
1175821567 M * phycho just trying to work out whats causing all this in game lag
1175823016 M * slack101 slow connection :D
1175823480 M * phycho its LAN
1175824217 M * trippeh slow LAN then ;P
1175824231 M * trippeh *cough*
1175827109 M * phycho 100mbit
1175829220 Q * slack101 Quit: Leaving.
1175830669 J * slack101 ~root@cpe-71-65-58-25.insight.res.rr.com
1175830696 M * slack101 ok i got a tgz of evertthing but proc sys tmp dev and root
1175830703 M * slack101 what do i have to do to create these ?
1175830720 M * slack101 do they have anything in them on boot or is it generated ?
1175830758 M * slack101 and also did i need anything out of the boot ?
1175830767 M * slack101 how will it start certain services and stuff ?
1175832179 Q * softi42 Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1175832788 J * softi42 ~softi@p549D6B73.dip.t-dialin.net
1175833289 M * slack101 how do i setup the init scripts ?
1175836269 Q * k421k1 
1175838393 M * Gennady slack101: /boot is empty, you don't need anything for boot guest
1175838449 M * Gennady only vserver guestname start, that's all
1175838484 M * slack101 but what about init scripts ?
1175838494 M * Gennady slack101: to start some daemon (service as you told), you need to install it
1175838542 M * Gennady slack101: or if it's already in installed - make init script
1175838573 M * slack101 ok
1175838578 M * slack101 i have a tar'd distro
1175838581 M * slack101 everything but 
1175838591 M * slack101 dev proc mnt sys tmp boot
1175838598 M * slack101 how do i go about putting this on a guest ?
1175838600 M * Gennady when you are installing some daemon - it creats init script by himself
1175838631 M * Gennady you have tar'd guest? from where?
1175838656 M * slack101 i have a tard system i want to use ass a guest
1175838687 M * slack101 obviously ..........i am wondering when i do vserver myguest start
1175838692 M * slack101 what does it do
1175838698 M * slack101 it has to run a init script or something
1175838795 N * DoberMann_ DoberMann
1175839377 M * slack101 anything ?
1175841133 M * slack101 cant figure this out
1175841427 N * DoberMann DoberMann[PullA]
1175841904 J * edward__ ~chatzilla@mail.wildgooses.com
1175842316 Q * edward Read error: Operation timed out
1175842750 J * Gennady2 ~gennady@195.58.235.214
1175842761 Q * Gennady Read error: Connection reset by peer
1175842901 J * Gennady ~gennady@ukrpost.is.com.ua
1175843235 Q * Gennady2 Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1175843296 M * slack101 also can i use tgz for the skeleton method instead of tar.gz ?
1175843921 N * DoberMann[PullA] DoberMann
1175843981 J * chand ~chand@212.99.51.254
1175843981 Q * Gennady Read error: Connection reset by peer
1175843983 J * Gennady ~gennady@ukrpost.is.com.ua
1175844050 J * dna ~naucki@135-203-dsl.kielnet.net
1175844411 J * jHoNDoE ~irc@ip70-190-32-70.ph.ph.cox.net
1175844492 Q * jHoNDoE 
1175846427 J * infowolfe ~infowolfe@c-67-164-195-129.hsd1.ut.comcast.net
1175846533 Q * Aiken Quit: Leaving
1175847999 J * rgl ~Rui@84.90.10.107
1175848007 M * rgl good morning
1175848075 M * daniel_hozac hello
1175848082 M * rgl hey daniel_hozac :D
1175848134 M * rgl its possible to change a sysctl setting per guest?   or I have to change it on the host?
1175848135 Q * dna Quit: Verlassend
1175848170 M * daniel_hozac it depends on the setting. IPC/uts can be changed on a per-guest basis, but the coredump format is global.
1175848226 M * slack101 finnaly got the distro i want on vserver as a guest
1175848233 M * slack101 ............now jus some bugs to work out 
1175848241 M * daniel_hozac congrats.
1175848358 M * rgl daniel_hozac, ah, so you saw my question from yesterday :)
1175848363 M * rgl daniel_hozac, ok, thx :)
1175848405 M * rgl slack101, slackware? :D
1175848408 M * daniel_hozac you're welcome
1175848566 M * slack101 yes slackware
1175848572 M * slack101 a very light verson of slack
1175848600 M * phreak`` daniel_hozac: hrm, why the third init-script (util-vserver-0.30.213-rc6) ?
1175848609 M * daniel_hozac util-vserver?
1175848613 M * phreak`` yeah
1175848626 M * phreak`` morning btw ;)
1175848631 M * rgl slack101, hum, I never used slack.   are there light versions?  or did you trim it?
1175848640 M * daniel_hozac it creates the directories, sets the helper, and loads the global device map.
1175848669 M * phreak`` ok, so I need to add some more explantation to the ebuild :)
1175848681 M * slack101 rgl: take slax 50 mb and rip the file system ........and put it on vserver
1175848759 M * phreak`` daniel_hozac: thanks :)
1175848853 M * rgl slack101, interesting.  I've used puppy linux for making trimmed versions.    but in the end, I go back to something more standard hehe
1175849001 M * slack101 slack is not like puppy
1175849006 M * slack101 its a real distro
1175849048 M * rgl is slax a real distro?
1175849220 M * rgl slack101, humm, I can see there is a tool for transforming a slackware package into a slax module.  interesting :D
1175849275 M * daniel_hozac phreak``: oh, and on stop, it kills all the guests.
1175849279 M * daniel_hozac (and contexts)
1175849286 M * rgl slack101, its correct to assume that all module ares merged in the FS using unionfs?
1175849438 J * Piet hiddenserv@tor.noreply.org
1175849757 J * Blissex ~Blissex@82-69-39-138.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk
1175849833 Q * infowolfe Quit: Leaving
1175850632 Q * ensc Killed (NickServ (GHOST command used by ensc_))
1175850641 J * ensc ~irc-ensc@p54B4DA58.dip.t-dialin.net
1175852257 Q * daniel_hozac Remote host closed the connection
1175852270 J * daniel_hozac ~daniel@c-091472d5.010-230-73746f22.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se
1175852557 M * matti :)
1175852812 Q * phreak`` Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1175852834 Q * Hollow Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1175853043 M * matti :)
1175854020 J * Hollow ~hollow@styx.xnull.de
1175854135 M * Hollow 2.2.0 crashed again
1175854163 M * Hollow no trace unfortunately
1175854290 M * daniel_hozac :(
1175854373 M * Wonka_ by the way, is there any logging tool that logs what goes in and out of some serial port?
1175854403 M * Wonka_ without blocking it, preferably, so one can still use it normally with minicom?
1175854475 M * daniel_hozac hmm, any reason you don't just use minicom's logging?
1175854511 M * Hollow daniel_hozac: i just rebooted it, since i have to leave now, but i will try to get a KVMoIP the next it crashes (which also means most of our webservices will be offline a bit :)
1175854531 M * daniel_hozac Hollow: ok, sounds good.
1175854532 J * yarihm ~yarihm@84-74-20-183.dclient.hispeed.ch
1175854540 M * daniel_hozac it needs to be fixed.
1175854547 M * Hollow yeah, rather annoying
1175854556 M * Wonka_ daniel_hozac: 'cause other people on that box don't seem to know about screen and minicom in it, and stuff...
1175854571 M * Wonka_ daniel_hozac: and then complain about locked serial ports
1175854594 M * Wonka_ mh. maybe I just should mail a roundmail about it
1175854653 N * Wonka_ Wonka
1175855330 J * fosco_ fosco@konoha.devnullteam.org
1175855628 Q * mnemoc cation.oftc.net reticulum.oftc.net
1175855628 Q * Radiance cation.oftc.net reticulum.oftc.net
1175855628 Q * michal` cation.oftc.net reticulum.oftc.net
1175855628 Q * fosco cation.oftc.net reticulum.oftc.net
1175855628 Q * rob-84x^ cation.oftc.net reticulum.oftc.net
1175855628 Q * neuralis cation.oftc.net reticulum.oftc.net
1175855628 Q * AndrewLee cation.oftc.net reticulum.oftc.net
1175855628 Q * Guy- cation.oftc.net reticulum.oftc.net
1175855628 Q * nox cation.oftc.net reticulum.oftc.net
1175855628 Q * PowerKe cation.oftc.net reticulum.oftc.net
1175855628 Q * badari cation.oftc.net reticulum.oftc.net
1175855628 Q * Bertl_vV cation.oftc.net reticulum.oftc.net
1175855628 Q * ag- cation.oftc.net reticulum.oftc.net
1175855628 Q * kaner cation.oftc.net reticulum.oftc.net
1175855664 J * mnemoc ~amery@kilo105.server4you.de
1175855664 J * Radiance d093f95bf2@halt.1984world.eu
1175855664 J * michal` ~michal@www.rsbac.org
1175855664 J * rob-84x^ ~rob@submarine.ath.cx
1175855664 J * neuralis ~krstic@solarsail.hcs.harvard.edu
1175855664 J * AndrewLee ~andrew@flat.iis.sinica.edu.tw
1175855664 J * Guy- qzIQ0x2eWw@chardonnay.math.bme.hu
1175855664 J * nox ~nox@nox.user.oftc.net
1175855664 J * PowerKe ~tom@d54C13E4B.access.telenet.be
1175855664 J * Bertl_vV herbert@IRC.13thfloor.at
1175855664 J * ag- ~ag@zealot.plz.fr
1175855664 J * badari ~badari@bi01p1.co.us.ibm.com
1175855664 J * kaner kaner@strace.org
1175855754 N * fosco_ fosco
1175855838 J * infowolfe ~infowolfe@c-67-164-195-129.hsd1.ut.comcast.net
1175856650 J * FireEgl Proteus@2001:5c0:84dc:1:211:9ff:feca:b042
1175857596 J * yarihm_ ~yarihm@84-74-20-183.dclient.hispeed.ch
1175857951 Q * yarihm Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1175858749 N * yarihm_ yarihm
1175861953 M * trippeh Wonka: minicom can do logging ;)
1175861991 M * trippeh Doh
1175862003 A * trippeh reads the rest of the conversation
1175864717 Q * edward__ Read error: Connection reset by peer
1175866749 Q * Gennady Quit: [Ëí·Ñò] v6 › http://levkin.cjb.net
1175867762 Q * virtuoso Read error: Connection reset by peer
1175867932 Q * Blissex Remote host closed the connection
1175868179 Q * phycho Read error: Connection reset by peer
1175871961 J * DavidS ~david@chello062178045213.16.11.tuwien.teleweb.at
1175871966 J * phreak`` ~phreak``@deimos.barfoo.org
1175872488 J * dna ~naucki@135-203-dsl.kielnet.net
1175872859 Q * chand Quit: chand
1175873672 J * stefani ~stefani@flute.radonc.washington.edu
1175875075 Q * rgl Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1175875160 M * slack101 anyone up ?
1175875165 M * slack101 i got my slackware installed
1175875171 M * slack101 but thier is sure some bugs 
1175875454 J * rgl ~Rui@84.90.10.107
1175875701 M * daniel_hozac oh?
1175875723 J * bonbons ~bonbons@83.222.39.201
1175876075 Q * Piet Remote host closed the connection
1175876119 J * Piet hiddenserv@tor.noreply.org
1175876648 Q * Piet Remote host closed the connection
1175876698 J * Piet hiddenserv@tor.noreply.org
1175877024 N * DoberMann DoberMann[PullA]
1175877501 Q * infowolfe Quit: Leaving
1175878270 M * slack101 daniel_hozac: yes
1175878273 M * slack101 many bugs 
1175878294 M * slack101 i dont know really what the problem is either
1175878361 J * infowolfe ~infowolfe@c-67-164-195-129.hsd1.ut.comcast.net
1175878520 J * Piet_ hiddenserv@tor.noreply.org
1175878617 Q * Piet Remote host closed the connection
1175878632 M * weasel hey
1175878642 M * weasel how do I detect if I'm in a vserver in the most clean way?
1175878649 M * weasel one of my nagios checks needs to know
1175878671 M * weasel (because otherwise it will always whine about how the init that is running is not the same as /sbin/init)
1175878754 J * boci^ ~boci@pool-3966.adsl.interware.hu
1175878812 Q * slack101 Quit: Leaving.
1175878815 M * daniel_hozac well, it somewhat depends on your settings.
1175878840 M * daniel_hozac by default, grep 'VxID|s_context' /proc/self/status should work.
1175878854 M * daniel_hozac but if you're hiding that, i'm not really sure...
1175878887 J * slack101 ~root@cpe-71-65-58-25.insight.res.rr.com
1175878992 M * slack101 grrrrr
1175878997 M * weasel s_context != 0
1175879001 M * weasel hmm, that could work
1175879003 M * weasel thanks daniel
1175879140 M * slack101 a;; these files
1175879144 M * slack101 rc.wireless
1175879149 M * slack101 rc.sshd
1175879151 M * slack101 etc
1175879162 M * slack101 are these all loaded
1175879175 N * DoberMann[PullA] DoberMann
1175879272 M * slack101 lol
1175879277 M * slack101 wrong channel :D
1175880619 J * rgl_ ~Rui@84.90.10.107
1175880985 Q * rgl Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1175881950 J * jmcaricand ~kvirc@d83-179-188-149.cust.tele2.fr
1175882282 Q * nebuchadnezzar Quit: ERC Version 5.2 (IRC client for Emacs)
1175882317 Q * ema Quit: leaving
1175882439 J * nebuchadnezzar ~nebu@zion.asgardr.info
1175883289 M * jmcaricand Hi. I have a partition (/dev/sdc1, size 750Gb) in host. I use "mount --bind" to use it in guest but I can't write more of 1gb in guest. Why ?
1175883474 M * daniel_hozac hmm?
1175883812 M * jmcaricand lifc-backup:/# dd if=/dev/zero of=/backup/qwerty bs=1M count=1000
1175883812 M * jmcaricand dd: writing `/backup/qwerty': No space left on device
1175883863 M * jmcaricand on host
1175883863 M * jmcaricand /dev/sdc1            720927212   5578952 678727292   1% /mnt/backup
1175883982 M * daniel_hozac and if you do that on the host, it works fine?
1175884008 M * jmcaricand I use : mount --bind /mnt/backup /var/lib/vservers/lifc-backup/backup to mount the partition
1175884008 M * jmcaricand I make a mistake ?
1175884049 M * jmcaricand Yes, it works fine.
1175884074 M * daniel_hozac even when you use the guest's dd?
1175884132 M * jmcaricand ? I don't understand 
1175884137 M * daniel_hozac are you sure you're writing to that partition?
1175884155 J * dannf ~dannf@204.13.164.202
1175884176 M * daniel_hozac /var/lib/vservers/lifc-backup/bin/dd if=/dev/zero of=/backup/qwerty bs=1M count=1000
1175884190 M * daniel_hozac /mnt/backup, sorry.
1175884255 M * jmcaricand That works
1175884300 M * daniel_hozac so inside the guest, what does grep backup /proc/mounts say?
1175884344 M * jmcaricand Nothing
1175884362 M * daniel_hozac well, that'd be why then :)
1175884369 M * daniel_hozac there's no filesystem mounted there.
1175884411 M * jmcaricand mount --bind it not sufficient ?
1175884954 J * vagrantc ~vagrant@71-213-185-213.albq.qwest.net
1175885034 M * vagrantc hey folks ... wondering if anyone has vservers running with a host machine that uses ipmasq for a firewall, and how to teach ipmasq about the existance of the vservers ... ?
1175885044 J * SoftIce ~phil@vc-196-207-32-232.3g.vodacom.co.za
1175885046 M * SoftIce hello
1175885062 M * vagrantc i can manually add iptables rules, but the die whenever ipmasq gets run again...
1175885246 M * SoftIce what flags do I need to set to allow this
1175885246 M * SoftIce Unable to change ownership of /var/run/asterisk/asterisk.ctl: Operation not permitted
1175885264 M * SoftIce what flags do I need to change ownership ?
1175885695 Q * jmcaricand Quit: KVIrc 3.2.4 Anomalies http://www.kvirc.net/
1175885736 M * daniel_hozac SoftIce: none. root can do that.
1175885797 M * daniel_hozac SoftIce: unless, of course, the file is immutable.
1175886010 J * ema ~ema@rtfm.galliera.it
1175886329 M * SoftIce hmm, so if the flags are not immutable then why would I be getting that?
1175886415 M * daniel_hozac you're not root?
1175886429 M * SoftIce i'm root
1175886438 M * SoftIce root@asterisk:/var/run/asterisk# asterisk -vvvvvvgc | more
1175886438 M * SoftIce Unable to change ownership of /var/run/asterisk/asterisk.ctl: Operation not permitted
1175886438 M * SoftIce   == Parsing '/etc/asterisk/asterisk.conf': Found
1175886438 M * SoftIce Running as user 'asterisk'
1175886492 J * jmcaricand ~kvirc@d83-179-188-149.cust.tele2.fr
1175886495 M * daniel_hozac and what is /var/run/asterisk/asterisk.ctl? who is changing the owner?
1175886505 M * daniel_hozac jmcaricand: you need to do it in the namespace.
1175886515 M * SoftIce root@asterisk:/var/run# ls -al | grep asterisk
1175886516 M * SoftIce drwxr-xr-x  2 asterisk asterisk 4096 Apr  6 19:10 asterisk
1175886553 M * jmcaricand daniel_hozac: What is the best method ?
1175886564 M * daniel_hozac best? i'd say the guest's fstab.
1175886577 M * daniel_hozac but after the fact, vnamespace -e <guest> mount -n --bind ... works fine.
1175886639 M * jmcaricand daniel_hozac: thank.
1175886665 M * sid3windr s
1175886665 Q * DavidS Read error: Connection reset by peer
1175887051 M * matti sid3windr: Behave! Or I will be forced to use THE RACK!
1175887053 M * matti :>
1175887057 J * DavidS ~david@chello062178045213.16.11.tuwien.teleweb.at
1175887123 M * daniel_hozac boobs as a weapon... neat.
1175887125 M * daniel_hozac ;)
1175887176 M * matti :>
1175887229 Q * SoftIce 
1175887407 J * tzafrir_laptop ~tzafrir@bzq-179-75-202.static.bezeqint.net
1175887443 M * tzafrir_laptop hi, any idea how I can install opensuse 10.2 as a guest on my Debian Etch vserver host?
1175887473 M * tzafrir_laptop through apt? any image to start from?
1175887524 M * daniel_hozac manually.
1175887558 M * daniel_hozac i think opensuse is going to need a whole lotta lovin' before it works correctly in a guest.
1175887638 M * matti Indeed.
1175887645 M * matti It is not worth of work tho
1175887678 M * daniel_hozac well actually, installing it shouldn't be a problem at all.
1175887699 M * daniel_hozac it's the getting it to work part....
1175887724 M * matti That is what I had in mind :)
1175887740 M * sid3windr matti: dude, what have you been smoking :p
1175887822 M * matti sid3windr: Well... where should I start ;p
1175887822 M * matti ;D
1175887836 M * daniel_hozac hmm, i just realized we released 2.2.0 on april fools day...
1175887875 M * matti Heheh.
1175887918 M * daniel_hozac maybe that's why we've had practically no issues reported, nobody thinks it's actually released :)
1175887925 M * matti Maybe.
1175887926 M * matti ;]
1175887931 Q * ema Quit: leaving
1175887932 M * sid3windr that's what I thought when I saw it released here ;)
1175887940 M * sid3windr "harr."
1175887941 M * sid3windr :P
1175887968 M * matti Oh you!
1175887971 M * matti How dare you!
1175887976 M * matti ;D
1175887977 M * matti ;p
1175889174 M * slack101 ok back to server
1175889178 M * slack101 now i need help
1175889201 M * slack101 i installed slackware but its buggy
1175889213 M * slack101 lke it opens 5 agetty processes
1175889218 M * slack101 then i restart and its normal
1175889226 M * slack101 the i restart and t opens all those [processes
1175889283 M * daniel_hozac so, disable them.
1175889951 M * slack101 yea doing some clean up
1175890797 J * Aiken ~james@ppp194-30.lns1.bne1.internode.on.net
1175890878 M * mnemoc hi, do you know why 'dev' may not work as option of a reiserfs partition on vserver 2.2.0/util-vserver-0.30.212 ?
1175891049 M * mnemoc it insist in mounting it "default" (rw,nodev) :\
1175891070 M * daniel_hozac in the guest's fstab?
1175891086 M * daniel_hozac please try with 0.30.213-rc6.
1175891088 M * mnemoc etc/vservsers/foo/fstab
1175891092 M * mnemoc ok
1175891186 M * mnemoc uhm..., daniel_hozac, where is it? :)
1175891210 M * daniel_hozac http://people.linux-vserver.org/~dhozac/t/uv-testing/util-vserver-0.30.213-rc6.tar.bz2
1175891216 M * mnemoc thanks :)
1175891416 M * slack101 do any of you know what fastboot is ?
1175891438 M * daniel_hozac it's a file.
1175891438 M * mnemoc usually no fsck
1175891445 M * mnemoc :)
1175891458 M * daniel_hozac ;)
1175891483 M * slack101 should i be using it ?
1175891493 M * mnemoc depending on your init scripts
1175891528 Q * jmcaricand Quit: KVIrc 3.2.4 Anomalies http://www.kvirc.net/
1175892307 J * CUTEY unicorns@ACA22536.ipt.aol.com
1175892316 M * CUTEY Hî!!!
1175892330 P * CUTEY 
1175892427 J * DreamerC_ ~dreamerc@125-225-101-87.dynamic.hinet.net
1175892513 Q * DreamerC_ 
1175892537 J * DreamerC_ ~dreamerc@125-225-101-87.dynamic.hinet.net
1175892562 M * slack101 ok i think i got my init scripts all cleaned up
1175892710 Q * DreamerC_ 
1175892712 Q * DavidS Quit: Leaving.
1175892726 J * DreamerC_ ~dreamerc@125-225-101-87.dynamic.hinet.net
1175892834 Q * DreamerC Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1175892862 M * slack101 lol 1 minute i will have 5 agetty processes
1175892869 M * slack101 then next minute i have the normal 4 
1175892875 M * daniel_hozac huh?
1175892880 M * daniel_hozac you shouldn't have any...
1175892889 M * slack101 init syslogd
1175892907 M * slack101 bash
1175892913 M * slack101 top
1175892937 M * daniel_hozac uh, how are those "agetty processes"?
1175892943 M * slack101 none now
1175892948 M * slack101 like 1 min ago like 5 
1175892962 M * slack101 what is vcontext ?
1175892999 N * DreamerC_ DreamerC
1175893008 M * slack101 lol
1175893016 M * slack101 syslogd sint starting now 
1175893022 M * slack101 should that be started ?
1175893036 M * daniel_hozac if you're not handling logging on the host, i'd say so.
1175893049 M * daniel_hozac vcontext is the program that enters a guest.
1175893053 M * daniel_hozac well, a context.
1175893060 M * slack101 nevermind its there 
1175893066 M * arachnis1 http://img486.imageshack.us/img486/2417/zajacyc2.jpg <| no easter bunny this year
1175893093 M * slack101 i got these 5 agetty processes again lol
1175893129 M * slack101 then lol
1175893133 M * slack101 when i am in top
1175893135 M * daniel_hozac so, disable them.
1175893138 M * daniel_hozac seriously.
1175893141 M * slack101 i push crtl Z 
1175893144 M * slack101 in top
1175893147 M * slack101 it says killed
1175893149 M * slack101 BUT
1175893155 M * slack101 its still in the process table
1175893162 M * sid3windr ctrl-z doesn't kill, does it :)
1175893163 M * daniel_hozac surely it said stopped?
1175893166 M * sid3windr indeed
1175893181 M * slack101 oh so control Z deosnt kill ?
1175893187 M * daniel_hozac no, it stops it.
1175893188 M * sid3windr no, it pauses
1175893196 M * slack101 i seee
1175893198 M * slack101 oops
1175893205 M * slack101 what is the thing to kill ?
1175893213 M * sid3windr kill
1175893226 M * slack101 killall top
1175893231 M * slack101 i still have them there
1175893262 M * daniel_hozac you need to kill -CONT it first.
1175893273 M * daniel_hozac of course, you could just run fg and press q...
1175893280 M * slack101 fg?
1175893289 M * daniel_hozac man bash
1175893309 M * daniel_hozac see the section about job control.
1175893342 M * slack101 what is fg ?
1175893386 M * sid3windr [06|23:01:26] < daniel_hozac> man bash
1175893386 M * sid3windr [06|23:01:46] < daniel_hozac> see the section about job control.
1175893394 M * slack101 oooo
1175893409 M * slack101 well this is not really my worrry
1175893421 M * slack101 jus those 5 agety processes that spawn on restart lol
1175893445 M * slack101 they are till there right now actually
1175893468 M * daniel_hozac 21:54 < daniel_hozac> so, disable them.
1175893476 M * slack101 disable ?
1175893482 M * slack101 i would like to see whats coasing them 
1175893500 M * daniel_hozac "causing"? your configuration.
1175893525 M * daniel_hozac as is usually the case...
1175893590 M * slack101 well where can i figure out the problem ?
1175893597 M * slack101 lol
1175893600 M * slack101 now thyey are gone 
1175893609 M * daniel_hozac what problem?
1175893658 M * slack101 the 5 apwining agetty processes
1175893668 M * sid3windr that's not a problem, that's your init config ;)
1175893686 M * slack101 jus help me figure out how to get rid of it 
1175893687 M * slack101 :D
1175893709 M * daniel_hozac remove/comment them in /etc/inittab.
1175893738 M * slack101 Mem:        504152     496280       7872          0      64380     378460
1175893738 M * slack101 -/+ buffers/cache:      53440     450712
1175893738 M * slack101 Swap:      1004052        176    1003876
1175893747 M * slack101 how much memory am i actually using ?
1175893752 M * sid3windr 53M
1175893774 M * daniel_hozac well, 496280 KiB RAM is actually used.
1175893777 M * daniel_hozac ;)
1175893832 M * slack101 lol?
1175893839 M * ray6 greetings from easterhegg
1175893852 M * sid3windr :P
1175893860 M * sid3windr true, daniel_hozac 
1175893872 M * slack101 http://phpfi.com/224440
1175893881 M * slack101 daniel_hozac: ^^
1175893892 M * slack101 i think i see the thing causing all those agetty's 
1175893911 M * daniel_hozac congratulations.
1175893918 M * ray6 and cu later... have to reboot for v6 :)
1175893920 M * daniel_hozac that's what i've been saying for, what, 2 hours?
1175893984 M * slack101 daniel_hozac: hould i jus take them out ?
1175893988 M * slack101 do i need those at all ?
1175893999 M * daniel_hozac do you?
1175894012 M * slack101 lol
1175894033 M * slack101 your not a happy person are you :D 
1175894043 A * slack101 is jus trying to make no mistakes ;)
1175894043 M * daniel_hozac i sure am.
1175894056 Q * ray6 Quit: Leaving
1175894057 M * daniel_hozac i just prefer it if people think for themselves every once in a while :)
1175894074 M * slack101 i understand but as i said i want no mistakes this time
1175894077 M * slack101 shit is actually working :D
1175894103 M * slack101 their is 6 agetty's there
1175894118 M * slack101 do i need any of those or what ?
1175894132 M * slack101 tty1 is all i need right ?
1175894140 M * daniel_hozac do you have any of those devices in the guest?
1175894167 M * slack101 which devices ?
1175894183 M * slack101 i will take the powe fail stuff out 
1175894194 M * daniel_hozac /dev/ttyX, of course.
1175894195 M * slack101 i dont think i need serial lines or dialup lines either
1175894208 M * slack101 what exactly is tty mean ? :d
1175894229 M * slack101 i got /dev/tty and thats it 
1175894259 M * daniel_hozac so there you go then.
1175894275 M * slack101 huh?
1175894298 M * slack101 what does multi user mode mean ?
1175894300 M * slack101 i mean
1175894310 M * slack101 multi user mode vs single user mode ?
1175894318 M * daniel_hozac uh, guess?
1175894322 M * slack101 lol
1175894371 M * slack101 isnt all linux multi user ?
1175894378 M * slack101 you cna log into another session
1175894399 M * daniel_hozac ... unless you boot into single user mode.
1175894436 M * slack101 i have multi user mode on this computer but i dont have 5 agetty processes non actually
1175894680 M * slack101 daniel_hozac: obviously i want it in multi uer mode but how do i stop all the damn agettys from opeing ?
1175894709 M * daniel_hozac 23:08 < daniel_hozac> remove/comment them in /etc/inittab.
1175894730 M * slack101 all ?
1175894733 M * slack101 daniel_hozac: ^
1175894814 M * daniel_hozac the ones you don't have devices for, at least.
1175894829 M * daniel_hozac which you just said was all of them.
1175894831 M * daniel_hozac so...
1175894857 M * slack101 yes but if i dont have devices for them how are they opening ?
1175894867 M * slack101 the processes spawning
1175894881 M * daniel_hozac they're not.
1175894886 M * daniel_hozac that's why they're disappearing.
1175894890 M * slack101 ooo
1175894891 M * slack101 :D
1175894899 M * slack101 ok took them out 
1175895023 M * slack101 daniel_hozac: worked :D
1175895043 M * slack101 so should i siable vcontext ?
1175895046 M * slack101 or leave that ?
1175895055 M * daniel_hozac what?
1175895079 M * slack101 vcontect thats for a guest right ?
1175895084 M * slack101 text
1175895116 M * daniel_hozac for creating/entering contexts, yes.
1175895125 M * slack101 di mean should it be running ?
1175895148 M * slack101 i*
1175895160 M * daniel_hozac unless you want to kill your shell in the guest, i'd say so.
1175895188 M * slack101 i am settiing up the guest platform for my vserver
1175895191 M * slack101 jus asking
1175895311 P * dannf Client exiting
1175895360 M * slack101 daniel_hozac: any ideas .......in ifconfig the right p is there .........but if i do ping yahoo.com it says unknwon host .....any ideas where i should start looking ?
1175895379 M * daniel_hozac well, have you configured DNS in the guest?
1175895389 M * slack101 :\ no
1175895393 M * slack101 never had to before 
1175895433 M * daniel_hozac so, edit /etc/resolv.conf.
1175895448 M * slack101 but it still should be able to ping an ip right ?
1175895458 M * daniel_hozac if you've set it up right, yes.
1175895471 J * meandtheshel1 ~markus@85-124-37-85.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at
1175895481 M * slack101 ok it pinged the ip
1175895492 M * slack101 now i guess i need to fix the resolve or w/e 
1175895509 Q * Piet_ Quit: Piet_
1175895510 Q * micah Quit: leaving
1175895540 M * slack101 where do i get the details for this daniel_hozac ?
1175895556 M * daniel_hozac man resolv.conf
1175895566 M * slack101 loks very simply 
1175895603 M * slack101 i dont have that man page 
1175895614 M * daniel_hozac so google it.
1175895669 M * slack101 i mean
1175895670 J * micah ~micah@204.13.164.72
1175895704 M * slack101 shouldnt it get the resolv.conf itself generated or w/e .....not do it manaully doesnt the  dhcp or w/e set it ?
1175895718 M * daniel_hozac well, uh, are you using DHCP for your guest?
1175895734 M * slack101 dont know :(
1175895735 M * slack101 lol
1175895753 M * slack101 dont think so 
1175895758 M * slack101 as i said the ip is there
1175895762 M * slack101 but 2ndly how do  check ?
1175895788 M * daniel_hozac well, DHCP for guests is only supported by jacques' utils.
1175895810 M * slack101 welll then
1175895814 M * slack101 i dont htink im using it 
1175895822 M * slack101 when i installed i did the -d slackware option
1175895835 M * slack101 i guess it didnt use dhcp
1175895853 M * daniel_hozac not that i see how they're connected, but ok...
1175895869 M * daniel_hozac AFAIK there's no support for slackware.
1175895880 M * slack101 oh theres not lol ?
1175895892 M * daniel_hozac at least not in util-vserver.
1175895896 M * slack101 i seee
1175895902 M * daniel_hozac so -d slackware doesn't do anything.
1175895907 M * slack101 i seeee
1175895911 M * slack101 sooo
1175895916 M * slack101 am i using dhcp lol
1175895975 M * daniel_hozac real easy to answer that, no?
1175896014 M * slack101 so basically its trying to use dhcp but it fails 
1175896029 M * slack101 so its not setting the resolv.conf
1175896085 M * slack101 is that what is happeening ?
1175896095 M * slack101 so basically i hould disable dhcp from starting ?
1175896102 M * daniel_hozac how on earth did you come to that conclusion?
1175896129 M * slack101 are u sayng im right 
1175896133 M * slack101 or being sarcastic ?
1175896160 M * daniel_hozac i don't see how that could be used to say "you're right".
1175896196 M * daniel_hozac you should just set the correct nameservers in /etc/resolv.conf and be done with it.
1175896215 M * slack101 how do i get them ?
1175896224 M * slack101 the nameservers ?
1175896278 M * mnemoc i run dnscache on the host :p
1175896278 M * daniel_hozac well, check your host, ask your network administrator, etc
1175896326 M * slack101 will dns cache work ?
1175896339 M * slack101 and how does per say when i install debain or something how does it get it ?
1175896372 M * daniel_hozac probably the build method handles it.
1175896412 M * slack101 any other ways going about gettting them ? for the guest ip
1175896454 M * daniel_hozac other than?
1175896550 J * besonen ~besonen@dsl-db.pacinfo.com
1175896839 M * slack101 calling the isp
1175896854 M * daniel_hozac so, uh, check your host?
1175896854 M * slack101 how does dhcp work ?
1175896866 M * slack101 on the host cna i do dhcp the guest ip 
1175896868 M * daniel_hozac http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DHCP
1175896869 M * slack101 and get it that way ?
1175897012 M * slack101 2ndly why on the host server i do ifconfig 
1175897023 M * slack101 the damn ip doesnt how of the guest GRRRRR
1175897069 M * daniel_hozac what?
1175897116 M * sid3windr :p
1175897342 Q * dna Quit: Verlassend
1175897498 M * slack101 GRRRRRRRR
1175897512 M * slack101 daniel_hozac: when i do ifconfig in the host ...........i dont ee the guest ip
1175897525 M * daniel_hozac well... ifconfig is old and broken.
1175897528 M * daniel_hozac use ip a instead.
1175897554 M * slack101 dont have ip intalled
1175897617 M * daniel_hozac on the host?
1175897623 M * daniel_hozac how did you manage to compile the utils?
1175897643 M * daniel_hozac they require ip...
1175897646 M * slack101 no no
1175897648 M * slack101 i mant guest
1175897655 M * slack101 yes it is in host
1175897660 M * slack101 i am fnding out how to use it 
1175897680 M * sid3windr daniel_hozac just told you how :)
1175897685 M * sid3windr at least for that purpose :)
1175897709 M * daniel_hozac apparently reading is not really for slack101 :)
1175897728 M * slack101 lol
1175897733 M * slack101 i didnt see the "a"
1175897734 M * slack101 jeese
1175897735 M * slack101 but 
1175897747 M * slack101 is this a problem that the ip's are both on eth0
1175897757 M * daniel_hozac no.
1175897858 J * naughty-b ~oper@5ac54514.bb.sky.com
1175897870 M * naughty-b where can i get a free shell account
1175897911 M * daniel_hozac google.
1175897983 M * naughty-b i have been googling all over the place
1175898242 M * Hollow die ifconfig die ... :)
1175898252 M * sid3windr Hollow: I'm afraid that may take a while ;/
1175898256 M * Hollow indeed
1175898259 M * sid3windr especially since all other unixies have it :)
1175898263 M * daniel_hozac like, forever.
1175898268 M * sid3windr ya
1175898268 M * sid3windr :)
1175898294 M * Hollow i just converted a bunch of vservers at work from the uber-ugly alias method to sane iproute2 config :P
1175898296 M * daniel_hozac and certain distributions still don't install ip by default (*cough* debian *cough*).
1175898304 M * sid3windr :)
1175898319 M * Hollow debian sucks.. and at work, we only use debian
1175898327 M * daniel_hozac hehe, d'oh.
1175898338 M * Hollow (and ubuntu.. wtf!?)
1175898342 M * sid3windr debian rocks. :)
1175898350 Q * naughty-b 
1175898360 P * stefani I'm Parting (the water)
1175898375 M * Hollow yeah, it will even support amd64 Really Soon Now :P
1175898376 A * sid3windr always wonders what that water stuff is all about
1175898401 M * sid3windr http://www.sid3windr.be/archives/273/gentoy - there you go, dirty gentoo'er!
1175898409 M * sid3windr (to each his own)
1175898478 M * Hollow sounds like fun ;)
1175898502 M * Hollow we even have this strange installer thing now too.. bah
1175898503 M * sid3windr :]
1175898521 M * Hollow never used it though :P
1175898563 M * Hollow but well, i don't care who uses which distro.. just have to get into debian for work now, which sucks from my PoV :)
1175898571 M * sid3windr :)
1175898594 M * daniel_hozac where are you working?
1175898604 M * Hollow www.newthinking-communications.de
1175898642 M * Hollow they use vservers for nearly everything :)
1175898648 M * Hollow best job ever :)
1175898672 M * sid3windr cool
1175898708 M * daniel_hozac hehe
1175899058 J * rgl ~Rui@84.90.10.107
1175899355 Q * rgl_ Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1175899365 N * DoberMann DoberMann[ZZZzzz]
1175899443 M * mjt anyone looked at http://lxc.sourceforge.net/network.php ?
1175899494 M * daniel_hozac has it been updated for the new patchset yet?
1175899554 M * slack101 daniel_hozac: so any ideas how i can get the NS for the guest ip .........besides calling and asking ISP
1175899561 M * mjt git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/ebiederm/linux-2.6-netns.git as of a hour ago
1175899605 M * daniel_hozac i know that, but i meant the website.
1175899625 M * daniel_hozac slack101: as i said initially, check the host.
1175899637 M * slack101 the host ip is different
1175899646 M * slack101 will it be the same ?
1175899684 M * daniel_hozac unless it's on a completely different network and there are really strict firewall rules, i'd say so.
1175899706 M * slack101 even though they are different ip's ?
1175899724 M * daniel_hozac ... yes.
1175899752 M * slack101 do i need the search ?
1175899761 M * daniel_hozac normally the same nameservers are used for the entire (branch of the) ISP.
1175899782 M * slack101 can i leave the search out ?
1175899788 M * daniel_hozac if you don't need it, sure.
1175899798 M * slack101 well it says my server provider lol
1175899805 M * daniel_hozac mjt: any particular reason you're asking?
1175899842 M * mjt not really
1175899858 M * mjt basically, it may be an answer to my old question
1175899869 M * slack101 so i should be ok leaving the search out ? ..........why would i need it ?
1175899869 M * mjt about running openvpn server or somesuch in a guest
1175899880 M * daniel_hozac that's already possible.
1175899903 M * daniel_hozac slack101: man resolv.conf
1175899938 M * slack101 lol
1175899944 M * slack101 save me 2 mins and help me :D
1175899972 M * daniel_hozac given that helping you seems to take hours, i think you'd actually save time by reading that...
1175899981 M * slack101 lol
1175899984 M * slack101 im reading it 
1175900019 M * slack101 so i can eave it out then right ?
1175900028 M * slack101 if i put the name server ip there
1175900029 M * Hollow omg
1175900045 M * slack101 lol
1175900045 M * slack101 :D
1175900062 M * slack101 its just a first for me ....... and really wanna make sure every move i good
1175900071 A * sid3windr thinks the quakenet outbreak security should be tightened :p
1175900080 M * daniel_hozac sid3windr: haha
1175900083 M * Hollow :)
1175900091 M * sid3windr ooh - network namespaces
1175900093 M * sid3windr sounds good++
1175900095 M * daniel_hozac slack101: what's the worst that can happen?
1175900113 M * slack101 daniel_hozac: dude this week has been alot of failed attempts 
1175900115 M * daniel_hozac sid3windr: what do you need it for?
1175900136 M * daniel_hozac slack101: so, worst case scenario is that you remove the line, and the computer explodes. or what?
1175900144 M * sid3windr I just installed a vmware server vm *blush* because I need a virtual machine with separate routing
1175900147 M * daniel_hozac seriously. it's one line in a file. not that hard to readd.
1175900158 M * daniel_hozac sid3windr: policy routing doesn't cut it?
1175900167 M * sid3windr no, it's dynamic routing :)
1175900179 M * daniel_hozac okay then.
1175900238 M * daniel_hozac mjt: have you looked at the diffs yet?
1175900249 M * sid3windr I'll gladly switch back to vserver once it is supported though
1175900252 M * sid3windr vmware gives me the shivers
1175900267 M * Hollow ah, routing will be funny next week... will replace two m0n0walls with one shorewall handling two dsl uplinks, one with static, one with dynamic ip.. :)
1175900276 M * mjt daniel_hozac: i'd hardly understand anything in there.  Kernel internals is almost 100% black magic for me ;)
1175900299 M * slack101 vmware for me was slow as hellll
1175900312 M * daniel_hozac i guess they will be posted soon... etun and the required sysfs changes have already gone out
1175900365 M * daniel_hozac i think er has been experimenting with ebiederm's previous patches on top of vserver.
1175900375 M * mjt (i wonder why tun can't be used - modified a bit to support the second device instead of userspace) 
1175900398 M * daniel_hozac isn't that what etun is? :)
1175900414 M * mjt exactly
1175900430 M * mjt so we rename tun to utun when ;)
1175900438 M * mjt -ETOOMANYTUNS
1175900838 J * DoberMann_ ~james@AToulouse-156-1-181-48.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr
1175900948 Q * DoberMann[ZZZzzz] Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1175901049 Q * FireEgl Quit: ...
1175902026 Q * boci^ Quit: Távozom
1175902439 M * slack101 in ssh
1175902444 M * slack101 after you connect it says 
1175902445 M * slack101 Linux 2.6.20-vs2.3.0.11-gentoo.
1175902455 M * slack101 but thats my host not my guest 
1175902461 M * slack101 how is this happeneing ?
1175902501 M * sid3windr what kernel version is your guest then?
1175902508 M * sid3windr :>
1175902778 M * daniel_hozac are you sure you want to run 2.3?
1175902785 Q * bonbons Quit: Leaving
1175902807 M * Hollow (note to self: mask 2.3)
1175902875 M * Hollow *yawn* off to bed now.. cya
1175903052 M * daniel_hozac good night!
1175903116 M * slack101 daniel_hozac: anyway i can make it so it shows the guest OS
1175903134 M * daniel_hozac your guest isn't running Linux?
1175903157 M * slack101 yes man
1175903172 M * slack101 i mean i want it to show slackware ...........instead of gentoo what the host is running
1175903182 M * daniel_hozac there's only one kernel.
1175903190 M * slack101 anyway to mask it for the guest ?
1175903217 M * daniel_hozac /etc/vservers/<guest>/uts/release, i think. check the flower page.
1175903261 M * slack101 uts ?
1175903284 M * daniel_hozac yes.
1175903300 M * slack101 i dont have no folder called that 
1175903307 M * daniel_hozac so, make it.
1175903327 M * slack101 now i gotta make it ?
1175903343 M * sid3windr see I got to make it, got to make it home!
1175903348 M * slack101 lol
1175903352 M * sid3windr see I got to make it, make it on my own!
1175903356 M * slack101 i odnt kow the format of the file 
1175903366 M * sid3windr that's what documentation is for
1175903531 M * matti Heheh.
1175903537 A * matti hugs Hollow 
1175903541 M * sid3windr matti: STOP DRINKING
1175903542 M * sid3windr :p
1175903547 M * Hollow matti: psst
1175903548 M * matti I am trying mate!
1175903550 M * Hollow :P
1175903552 M * matti I am trying!
1175903553 M * matti ;]
1175903558 M * matti I cannot resist!
1175903559 M * matti ;]
1175903567 M * daniel_hozac sid3windr: wasn't it smoking last time? :)
1175903567 M * matti Milk is highly addictive!
1175903572 M * matti What can I say.
1175903579 M * matti :>
1175903579 M * sid3windr hmyea
1175903585 M * sid3windr smoking, drinking .. this guy simply doesn't stop
1175903592 M * matti Ekhm ;p
1175903595 M * sid3windr =)
1175903633 M * matti :)
1175903961 J * ray6 ~ray@vh5.gcsc2.ray.net
1175903985 N * ray6 ray4
1175903998 M * ray4 hm, no v6  here? Too bad