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1175213655 J * yang ~yang@cpe-213-157-253-172.dynamic.amis.net
1175216149 J * azazel ~azazel@81-174-47-119.f5.ngi.it
1175216515 Q * yang Read error: Connection timed out
1175216537 J * yang ~yang@cpe-213-157-253-172.dynamic.amis.net
1175216599 A * pflanze bought a usb2 pci card for his old mac for making his laser printer faster, then it didn't change anything, seems usb1 only, tja.
1175216661 A * pflanze moves to bed & waves
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1175217749 M * weasel hmm, annoying.
1175217761 M * weasel in order to remove lvm logical volumes I have to kill all running vserver instances
1175217794 M * Bertl_oO maybe on debian with older tools :)
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1175218968 J * yang ~yang@cpe-213-157-253-172.dynamic.amis.net
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1175220315 J * yang ~yang@cpe-213-157-253-172.dynamic.amis.net
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1175221848 Q * yang Read error: Connection timed out
1175221867 J * yang ~yang@cpe-213-157-253-172.dynamic.amis.net
1175222872 M * Bertl_oO okay, off to bed now .. have a good one everyone!
1175222877 N * Bertl_oO Bertl_zZ
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1175252618 M * sharkjaw I'm running Vserver on one of my servers, but I want one of the GuestOS's to not use all of the CPU and RAM. How can I limit how match CPU time and RAM that GuestOS can use.
1175252664 M * sharkjaw www.linux-vserver.org is a bit buggy and will not show me those pages :/
1175252684 M * sharkjaw Can anyone give me a hint?
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1175253800 M * daniel_hozac how is it buggy?
1175253935 M * daniel_hozac ah, i see. it's down.
1175253980 M * sharkjaw daniel_hozac: yes, that kind of buggy :)
1175254827 J * virtuoso ~s0t0na@80.253.205.251
1175254972 J * flat13 ~Miranda12@82.211.152.12
1175254981 M * flat13 hay!
1175254996 Q * lyli1 Remote host closed the connection
1175255016 M * flat13  =-O 
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1175257786 J * yarihm ~yarihm@vpn-global-001-dhcp.ethz.ch
1175258333 Q * FireEgl Quit: ...
1175258556 M * sharkjaw linux-vserver.org is up and running again ... but I still not understand how to limit cpu use on a vserver
1175258806 M * sharkjaw how do I set the sched flagg on a vserver? I use Ubuntu dapper as hostos and `newvserver` to create new vservers
1175258966 J * Hollow ~hollow@styx.xnull.de
1175259003 M * Hollow let's see if rc20 does not panic all the time :o
1175259021 M * Hollow sorry for the outages guys ..
1175259078 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl
1175259085 M * Bertl morning folks!
1175259090 M * Bertl Hollow: rc21!!
1175259148 M * Hollow yeah, not in portage yet, and it was quite urgent
1175259618 M * Bertl yes, but rc21 probably fixes the tty issue :)
1175259741 M * Hollow ok, did this tty issue cause a panic?
1175259800 M * daniel_hozac should just be an oops, but it might lock the machine afterwards.
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1175260167 J * ema ~ema@rtfm.galliera.it
1175260199 J * b0c1 ~boci@pool-7395.adsl.interware.hu
1175260352 M * Hollow we'll see .. :)
1175260360 M * Hollow going home now, back later
1175260360 M * Bertl Hollow: what _did_ panic all the time, and what panic did you get?
1175260392 M * Hollow not sure.. i don't have console output, but the machine just hard locks ..
1175260417 M * Hollow will try to get a KVMoverIP, but this is not as easy as it sounds .. but different story ;)
1175260421 M * Hollow bbl ..
1175260460 M * Bertl one would assume folks on this channel should know better :)
1175261062 Q * mountie Remote host closed the connection
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1175261654 J * lilalinux_ ~plasma@80.69.41.3
1175261758 J * Gennady ~gennady@ukrpost.is.com.ua
1175261766 M * Gennady hello guys!
1175261831 M * Gennady please, help with recopling kernel!
1175261885 M * Gennady i've included routing support in kernel config but iprouting won't work
1175261896 M * Bertl how so?
1175261902 M * Gennady rules are.n't applied and aren't working
1175261927 M * Gennady ip rule show gives default rules
1175262002 M * Gennady for example
1175262011 M * Gennady i've added some ip rules
1175262013 J * waldi ~waldi@bblank.thinkmo.de
1175262023 M * Gennady made flush cache
1175262033 M * Gennady and nothing...
1175262066 Q * lilalinux Ping timeout: 480 seconds
1175262084 M * Gennady no metter had i applied patches or not
1175262100 M * Gennady no matter
1175262286 M * Bertl well, adding rules and flushing cache does not necessary change anything
1175262301 M * Bertl can you give me an example _what_ you added/tried to change?
1175262321 M * Bertl maybe you want to use multiple routing tables?
1175262499 M * Gennady ok. have a look
1175262519 M * Gennady i have a cup of interfaces
1175262528 M * Gennady and vservers of couse
1175262555 M * Gennady i want one of them to use different gateway then default
1175262648 Q * sharkjaw Quit: Leaving
1175262799 M * Bertl Gennady: in which case you need multiple routing tables
1175262831 M * Bertl Gennady: check with 'ip rule ls'
1175262845 M * Bertl if that gives you nothing, then advanced routing is disabled in your kernel
1175262876 M * Bertl CONFIG_IP_ADVANCED_ROUTER is the kernel option
1175262891 M * Gennady Bertl, /sbin/ip rule add from 192.168.1.5 table from_www
1175262909 M * Gennady then /sbin/ip route add default via 192.168.1.3 dev eth0 table from_www
1175262913 M * Gennady then /sbin/ip route flush cache
1175262918 M * Gennady and got
1175262944 M * Gennady 0:      from all lookup local
1175262944 M * Gennady 32766:  from all lookup main
1175262944 M * Gennady 32767:  from all lookup default
1175262966 M * Bertl did you add the from_www table?
1175262987 M * Bertl (in /etc/iproute2/rt_tables)
1175263047 M * Gennady yep, of couse
1175263106 M * Gennady when i try to add rule and default route again
1175263111 M * Gennady then will have:
1175263112 M * Gennady RTNETLINK answers: File exists
1175263156 M * Bertl you do that on the host, right?
1175263175 M * Gennady yes
1175263226 M * Bertl hmm, I always did:
1175263240 M * Bertl ip rule add from 192.168.1.5 lookup from_www
1175263253 M * Bertl (and you should better be root, of course :)
1175263305 M * Gennady i am, and fully confident :)
1175263329 M * Bertl and that doesn't add the rule?
1175263395 M * Gennady no :)
1175263403 M * Bertl do you have multiple tables?
1175263417 M * Bertl that would be the kernel option: CONFIG_IP_MULTIPLE_TABLES
1175263686 M * Gennady huh, i'll try to use dafault FC kernel config... and to apply some options for vserver... 
1175263697 M * Gennady hm. this options is set to Y
1175263723 M * Bertl what kernel/patches do you use?
1175263739 M * Gennady kernel 2.6.19.3
1175263770 M * Gennady patches 2.6.19.3 and tried yesterday 2.6.19.7
1175264123 M * wimalopaan Hi Bertl, now I switch from email to irc: CIFS on vserver
1175264149 M * wimalopaan Mar 30 11:20:53 gs vxW: xid=115 tried to spawn a kernel thread.
1175264149 M * wimalopaan Mar 30 11:20:53 gs CIFS VFS: cifs_mount failed w/return code = -12
1175264154 M * Bertl hey wimalopaan!
1175264176 M * Bertl ah, here we go, the mount process is spawning a kernel thread
1175264185 M * wimalopaan that is still with 2.3.0
1175264218 M * Bertl yeah, I doubt it is fixed with 2.2.0, but I'd try the latest 2.6.20.4 kernel, maybe mainline got that fixed there
1175264238 M * Bertl wimalopaan: why do you actually need the guest to mount that?
1175264304 M * wimalopaan I want to have guests I can can give away to users who need some home-dir on a cifs-filer
1175264390 M * Bertl but you know that this requires a certain amount of trust towards the customer?
1175264421 M * Bertl i.e. if that cifs-filer goes away at some point, your kernel will probably hang and not just for that customer ...
1175264527 M * wimalopaan I think thats the normal way: now we have a server for all users (no root access) and if here goes the cifs-filer done its the same problem
1175264551 M * wimalopaan unfortunately we can't use nfs here
1175264559 M * Bertl wimalopaan: note: I'm not going to talk you out of this, it is a bug, unfortunately a mainline bug, but I try to figure why you want to mount it from _inside_?
1175264603 M * Bertl I would assume a CIFS mount on the host (for the guest, inside the guests namespace) would do as well?
1175264656 M * wimalopaan the other point is, that I like to have a guest to use as a terminal-server for non-root users where the user-homes are mounted on login via pam
1175264691 M * Bertl and each user home is a separate mount, yes?
1175264697 M * wimalopaan yes
1175264734 M * wimalopaan ok, should I try 2.6.20.4 ?
1175264749 M * Bertl try 2.6.20.4 with vs2.2.0-rc21
1175264768 M * Bertl (but I don't thing it was fixed there yet)
1175264841 M * wimalopaan ok, I'll give it a try
1175264863 M * wimalopaan are there any other thing swe can test in between?
1175264926 M * Bertl let's see ... the problem is actually that the client spawns a kernel thread with the old (deprecated) thread API
1175264951 M * Bertl so, the proper solution would be to convert CIFS from the old API to the new API
1175264968 M * Bertl (probably you will need support from the CIFS folks for that)
1175264987 M * Bertl another hack-alternative would be to allow the guest to spawn a kernel thread
1175265009 M * Bertl which would probably make it work right now, but has severe security implications
1175265019 M * wimalopaan that sounds reasonable to start the test
1175265057 M * Bertl so, if you have a test environment, and you just want to figure if it would work, if it was fixed :)
1175265074 M * Bertl then I'd suggest to disable the kthread checks in Linux-VServer
1175265088 M * wimalopaan ok, how?
1175265119 M * Bertl sec
1175265395 J * mountie ~mountie@trb229.travel-net.com
1175265551 M * Bertl wimalopaan: kernel/fork.c around line 1417
1175265560 J * FireEgl Proteus@Sebastian.Atlantica.US
1175265597 M * Bertl wimalopaan: if you disable that entire check, e.g. by adding a '&& 0'
1175265612 M * Bertl you should be able to spawn kernel threads inside a guest context
1175265717 M * wimalopaan just to make sure, you mean: if (current->ptrace & PT_TRACE_VFORK)
1175265864 M * Bertl no, I mean
1175265881 M * Bertl /* kernel threads are host only */
1175265887 M * Bertl if ((clone_flags & CLONE_KTHREAD) && !vx_check(0, VS_ADMIN)) {
1175265906 M * Bertl and you want to change that like this:
1175265912 M * Bertl if (0 && (clone_flags & CLONE_KTHREAD) && !vx_check(0, VS_ADMIN)) {
1175265990 J * phreak`` ~phreak``@deimos.barfoo.org
1175266038 M * wimalopaan ok, got, will be back with the results
1175266076 J * [PUPPETS]Gonzo gonzo@langweiligneutral.deswahnsinns.de
1175266199 Q * lilalinux_ Remote host closed the connection
1175267093 J * Pazzo ~ugelt@dialin-225136.rol.raiffeisen.net
1175268532 J * s0undt3ch ~s0undt3ch@80.69.34.154
1175268739 A * Hollow stabs phreak``
1175268911 M * wimalopaan deactivating the checks did the trick
1175268927 M * wimalopaan now I can mount the cifs-filer shares
1175268929 M * Bertl yep, be careful though, as the kernel threads will now belong to the context
1175268952 M * Bertl i.e. the context will be kept alive as long as those kernel threads stay around
1175268999 M * wimalopaan does that mean, taht I can't stop the vs?
1175269025 M * Bertl if the kernel thread is not terminated, yes
1175269044 M * Bertl I assume it will go away when you unmount the CIFS ...
1175269063 M * wimalopaan yes, just checked it: the context dies
1175269077 M * wimalopaan what can be done for a clean solution?
1175269207 Q * gerrit Read error: Operation timed out
1175269207 M * Bertl as I said, the problem is that CIFS uses the deprecated thread API
1175269276 M * Bertl it will be updated/converted in the next few kernel releases (as it causes issues with the ongoing mainline virtualization approaches too)
1175269487 M * harry are there problems with releasing 2.2.0? ;)
1175269493 M * harry or is it "any time now" ?
1175269495 M * harry ;)
1175269580 M * wimalopaan do you see some serious security problems with this hack if the users on thos vserver are unpriviledged?
1175269667 M * Bertl wimalopaan: well, the kernel thread can probably be attacked
1175269700 M * Bertl wimalopaan: not sure _what_ harm folks could do with that, but it is definitely less secure than without
1175269724 M * wimalopaan isn't that comparable to the nfs-case?
1175269732 M * Bertl OTOH, it is still more secure than on a typical linux system
1175269785 M * Bertl wimalopaan: very much depends on whether the NFS spawns a kernel thread inside the guest or not :)
1175269831 M * Bertl wimalopaan: in general I suggest to avoid mounting (especially network filesystems) inside a guest for DoS reasons
1175269843 M * harry wimalopaan: if you want enhanced security in guests, there is allways the vserver + grsec patch
1175269854 M * harry adds some nice pax features etc... for the extremely paranoid ;)
1175269860 M * harry (like me)
1175269901 M * wimalopaan I thought the binary_mount and secure_mount ccaps are neccessary to start the nfs-thread, ..?
1175270044 M * Bertl they are necessary to allow for such mounts
1175270064 M * Bertl the thread, if implemented correctly, will still be started on the host
1175270094 M * Bertl wimalopaan: look, there are 3 different issues
1175270105 M * Bertl - mounting inside a guest
1175270115 M * Bertl - mounting a network based filesystem inside a guest
1175270124 M * Bertl - starting kernel threads from inside a guest
1175270128 M * wimalopaan one problem I see is that I have different sorts of guests on the same host: one sort where root-access is given away (cifs in guest would be nice but not crucial) and one sort without root-access for foreigners and cifs-mounts
1175270145 M * Bertl the third one break down into:
1175270154 M * Bertl + kernel threads with the old API
1175270161 M * Bertl + kernel threads with the new API
1175270196 M * Bertl the latter ones are considered safe, except for the detail that you probably do not want a guest to be able to spawn arbitrary kernel threads
1175270248 M * Bertl allowing to mount something inside a guest is secured my adding special mount options (nodev) but there is no guarantee that your XYZ filesystem actually honors that
1175270289 M * Bertl allowing to mount network based filesystems inside a guest also adds the danger of blocking the kernel when the source/filer suddenly goes away
1175270322 M * Bertl for example, your pam/home scenario, could probably be solved in a much less intrusive way
1175270360 M * Bertl e.g. you could have all the home dirs on a single filesystem (NFS/CIFS) which is properly mounted on the host system (from a known good filer)
1175270394 M * Bertl then, when user xy logs on to guest A, you do a bind mount for that home dir
1175270487 M * wimalopaan I had that in mind, then the guest-pam as to comminicate with the host
1175270513 M * Bertl not necessarily, the bind mount could happen _inside_ the guest
1175270531 M * Bertl just requires that you provide the 'original' home mount to guest root
1175270713 M * wimalopaan to summarize:
1175270713 M * wimalopaan i) I can wit for cifs using the nw api
1175270713 M * wimalopaan ii) I can use the above hack: then all guests can start kthreads
1175270713 M * wimalopaan iii) cifs-mount the base-dir on the host to the guest and let pam in guest bind-mount to the user-home
1175270713 M * wimalopaan  
1175270715 M * wimalopaan right?
1175270953 M * Bertl yes, I can imagine 2-3 other solutions too
1175270967 M * Bertl a) special case the kthread check for CIFS
1175270987 M * Bertl b) convert CIFS to the new API (or get somebody to do it)
1175271009 M * Bertl c) use a policy daemon on the host to do the mounts for the guest
1175271170 M * wimalopaan can you give me a hint to do a) ?
1175271340 M * Bertl well, the code ends up calling do_fork() and we know that the CIFS is using the old API
1175271555 M * Bertl I see two kthread_run() which look like those have already been converted (2.6.20.4 that is)
1175271580 M * Bertl and the old API call in fs/cifs/connect.c/cifs_mount()
1175271615 M * Bertl spawning the cifs_demultiplex_thread
1175271753 Q * shedi Quit: Leaving
1175271769 M * Bertl you could define a new CLONE flag to mark that specific thread
1175271798 M * Bertl and check for that flag in do_fork() but the cleanest way would be the API conversion ...
1175271915 M * wimalopaan well, my kernel knowledge is limited, but a transformation from kernel_thread to kthread_run should be possible. 
1175272267 M * Bertl best search for 'api linux/kthread.h conversion' and have a look at patches doing it for other subsystems
1175272290 M * Bertl then contact the CIFS folks about oddities and try a conversions
1175272293 M * Bertl -s
1175272317 M * wimalopaan ok, thanks
1175272449 M * Bertl no problem .. 
1175272857 Q * ema Quit: leaving
1175272898 J * jolly ~jolly@pD955E6A1.dip.t-dialin.net
1175272907 M * jolly Hi
1175272965 M * jolly I got a question. I copied a guest from one host (2.4.28-vs.1,29) to another host ( 2.6.14-3-vs2.01) via rsync
1175272991 M * harry how do you set linewrap in vi?
1175272994 M * jolly adjusted the configs manually and the guests seemed to work, but now I get the following errors
1175272995 M * jolly init: timeout opening/writing control channel /dev/initctl
1175272999 M * harry i want my texts wrapped @ 80 chars
1175273009 M * harry djies dude... stop the colors!
1175273017 M * mnemoc harry: `fold`
1175273020 M * harry this isn't kindergarden is it?
1175273022 M * jolly Doesn't work... trillian
1175273024 M * Guy- hi
1175273024 M * doener harry: :set tw=80
1175273025 M * jolly sorry
1175273035 M * Gennady bye, guys
1175273044 M * doener mnemoc: wrapped not folded ;)
1175273049 M * Gennady see ya :)
1175273052 Q * Gennady Quit: [Ëí·Ñò] v6 › http://levkin.cjb.net
1175273054 M * mnemoc doener: :)
1175273082 M * harry doener: doesn't work
1175273084 M * harry odd...
1175273097 M * doener hm, it does here... vi or vim?
1175273109 M * harry i shut up now
1175273112 M * harry i pasted stuff
1175273119 M * harry then did the tw=80
1175273122 M * harry that didn't work
1175273129 M * harry does work now, just did set tw first :)
1175273133 M * Bertl jolly: get a better IRC client (or learn to wield it :)
1175273136 M * doener heh :)
1175273140 M * harry http://people.linux-vserver.org/~harry/scripts/INSTALL.TXT
1175273142 M * harry there we go
1175273162 M * harry basicly: don't use my scripts unless you know what you're doing :)
1175273174 M * Bertl jolly: your 'problem' is that your guest has no init, so contacting it will fail
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1175273234 M * jolly well it works. Only the inittabs do not work
1175273253 M * Bertl (and the color :)
1175273269 M * jolly (sorry... Trillian is always changing it back automatically to blue)
1175273277 M * jolly test
1175273278 M * jolly test
1175273329 M * Bertl well, if that is _your_ choice of a client, then you have to prepend each post with the proper color modifier to get the 'normal' color ....
1175273361 M * jolly ok if that is important to get help I'll do that...
1175273367 M * Bertl thanks!
1175273375 M * harry would be nice to have the "advanced routing" standard in vservers tough
1175273389 M * Bertl jolly: guests can be run in two modes, with and without init process
1175273397 M * doener harry: btw, you can use gq followed by a movement command in normal mode, or just gq with some text selected in visual mode to reformat that text, that will also apply the textwidth limit to that text
1175273405 M * Bertl jolly: those modes are controlled by the init style (either plain or sysv)
1175273413 M * doener (I just found that out myself, so I thought I might share it :))
1175273418 M * harry doener: gq? don't konw that
1175273420 M * jolly Ok so here is the whole problem: I want to move all guests from the old host to the new one. How would you do that?
1175273424 M * harry i tried the visual stuff
1175273432 M * harry ggvG:set tw=80
1175273433 M * Bertl jolly: with sysv, you do not get an init process only a 'fake init'
1175273434 M * doener harry: gq as in "press g then press q"
1175273434 M * harry didn't work :
1175273435 M * jolly Oh so I just missed it in the new config?
1175273435 M * harry ;)
1175273439 M * harry yeah
1175273449 M * doener ggVGgq :)
1175273468 M * jolly Were do I set that?
1175273470 M * Bertl jolly: if you enable 'plain' init style, you'll get an init, but you won't see the startup messages
1175273487 M * jolly I don't care... as long as everything starts ;-)
1175273497 M * Bertl what did you say? :)
1175273502 M * jolly I don't care... as long as everything starts ;-)
1175273510 M * jolly sorry
1175273518 M * harry what does gq do, doener ?
1175273523 M * harry doesn't work here :(
1175273593 M * harry anyway, no time
1175273601 M * doener harry: should reformat the text, for example, apply line wrapping (in both directions, collapsing short lines, as well as wrapping long ones)
1175273603 M * harry did some good work now... /me now bath + stuff
1175273611 M * doener enjoy it :)
1175273628 M * harry have to go to restaurant in 1 hour
1175273629 M * jolly thanks
1175273634 M * harry second time today
1175273652 M * harry now... bath + marduk!
1175273692 M * Bertl jolly: np
1175274033 J * shedi ~siggi@ftth-237-144.hive.is
1175274045 P * jolly 
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1175274790 M * matti Hi B, hi h.
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1175275758 M * harry hi M
1175275918 N * DoberMann[PullA] DoberMann
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1175279716 N * DoberMann DoberMann[PullA]
1175280008 P * dutchfish Ik ga weg
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1175282841 M * Bertl nap attack ... back later
1175282848 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ
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1175285816 J * Nam ~nam@S0106001195551ff0.va.shawcable.net
1175285826 M * Nam hey guys
1175285853 M * Nam I noticed that vserver-copy is legacy now... what's the recommended method for copying a server?
1175285854 J * blizz ~blizz@evilhackerdu.de
1175286293 M * waldi rsync?
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1175286935 M * derjohn Nam, and use "-azH --numeric-ids" and maybe "--delete"  if you do the copy from the host
1175287017 J * michal` ~michal@www.rsbac.org
1175287406 J * lilalinux ~plasma@80.69.41.3
1175287454 M * Nam derjohn: for what command?
1175287533 M * derjohn rsync ;)
1175287539 M * derjohn as waldi pointed out
1175287586 M * Nam ah... i was hoping there would be an updated alternative to vserver-copy which would copy/modify the config files as well as the vserver files
1175287610 M * Nam vserver-copy handled that by just "vserver-copy server1 server2"
1175287651 M * derjohn Nam, vserver-rsync ?
1175287669 M * derjohn Nam, timw to write that :) .... thats up to you !
1175287698 M * derjohn should be easy .. some line of bash as long as you have config dir
1175287723 M * derjohn but: how to change IPs? How to figure out free context ids ? ....
1175287732 M * derjohn But I will eagertest yopur script
1175287740 M * derjohn btw: bye ... /me must run 
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