1174953742 M * Bertl slack101: focus! 1174953767 M * Bertl okay folks! I'm off to bed now ... have a good one everyone! cya! 1174953773 N * Bertl Bertl_zZ 1174953775 M * jkl goodnight bertl! 1174954173 J * dghill ~david.hil@office.mel.illuminate.com.au 1174954241 J * daveh ~david.hil@office.mel.illuminate.com.au 1174954651 Q * daveh Quit: Weeeeee! 1174954656 Q * dghill Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1174955039 Q * boci^ Quit: Távozom 1174955076 J * dghill dghill@office.mel.illuminate.com.au 1174955138 Q * Aiken Quit: Leaving 1174955507 J * Aiken ~james@ppp250-73.lns2.bne4.internode.on.net 1174955783 J * DoberMann_ ~james@AToulouse-156-1-12-19.w86-196.abo.wanadoo.fr 1174955885 Q * DoberMann[ZZZzzz] Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1174956770 Q * rob-84x^ Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1174956794 Q * dghill Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1174956818 J * dghill dghill@office.mel.illuminate.com.au 1174960335 Q * cehteh Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1174962043 J * FireEgl Sebastian@adsl-61-136-122.bhm.bellsouth.net 1174962052 Q * FireEgl Read error: Connection reset by peer 1174963036 Q * besonen Read error: Connection reset by peer 1174963049 J * besonen ~besonen@209-180-234-92.eugn.qwest.net 1174963970 J * rob-84x^ ~rob@submarine.ath.cx 1174965194 Q * softi42 Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1174965709 J * softi42 ~softi@p549d5ff5.dip.t-dialin.net 1174965969 J * infowolfe_ ~infowolfe@c-67-164-195-129.hsd1.ut.comcast.net 1174965969 Q * infowolfe Read error: Connection reset by peer 1174966360 Q * infowolfe_ Read error: Connection reset by peer 1174966759 M * daniel_hozac Hollow: pong 1174968570 Q * ensc Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1174968911 J * infowolfe ~infowolfe@c-67-164-195-129.hsd1.ut.comcast.net 1174974542 Q * michal` cation.oftc.net arion.oftc.net 1174974602 J * michal` ~michal@www.rsbac.org 1174975416 N * DoberMann_ DoberMann 1174976169 T * harry http://linux-vserver.org/ | latest stable 2.0.2.1, 2.0.3-rc2, 2.2.0-rc21, devel 2.3.0.11, stable+grsec 2.0.2.1, 2.2.0-rc21 | util-vserver-0.30.212 | libvserver-1.0.2 & vserver-utils-1.0.3 | He who asks a question is a fool for a minute; he who doesn't ask is a fool for a lifetime -- share the gained knowledge on the Wiki, and we'll forget about the minute ;) 1174977777 J * cehteh ~ct@pipapo.org 1174978928 N * DoberMann DoberMann[PullA] 1174979271 J * yarihm ~yarihm@pub-wlan.office.nine.ch 1174980197 J * FireEgl Proteus@Sebastian.Atlantica.US 1174980659 J * dna ~naucki@p54bcd67d.dip.t-dialin.net 1174982808 J * chand ~chand@212.99.51.254 1174983547 Q * dna Read error: Connection reset by peer 1174985784 J * meandtheshell ~markus@85-124-39-44.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at 1174987012 Q * cdrx Quit: Leaving 1174987018 J * cdrx ~legoater@cap31-3-82-227-199-249.fbx.proxad.net 1174987493 J * ema ~ema@rtfm.galliera.it 1174987962 J * ensc ~irc-ensc@p54B4D438.dip.t-dialin.net 1174989166 J * DavidS ~david@vpn.uni-ak.ac.at 1174991421 J * awk ~awk@dsl-242-123-186.telkomadsl.co.za 1174991428 M * awk hi, please can somebody try help me here 1174991444 M * awk edited /etc/vservers/newvserver-vars 1174991457 M * awk and added DIST='edgy' MIRROR=" http://za.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu" 1174991481 M * awk then once I do a newvserver -v --hostname nfs --domain inet-corp.com --interface eth0 --ip 10.0.0.201 1174991494 M * awk s_context: 0 1174991494 M * awk I: Retrieving Release 1174991494 M * awk E: unknown location /dists/edgy/Release 1174991500 M * awk and further error messages 1174991512 M * awk yet when I got to http://za.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy/ 1174991515 M * awk there is a Release ? 1174991609 M * daniel_hozac and if you use util-vserver, it still doesn't work? 1174991758 M * awk hmm, not sure what you mean by using util-vserver, I have the util-vserver package installed. 1174991800 M * awk I thought that was just the package of vserver,vserver-stat, etc 1174991859 M * awk oh, you mean vserver vserver1 build -n, etc ? 1174991938 M * awk the reason, i'm doing it this way is that I wanted to actually use a newer release, without building old release then upgrading. 1174991954 M * awk or using a total different OS all together 1174991970 M * awk I am using the 2.6.17-11-vserver-generic kernel 1174992000 M * daniel_hozac umm, what? 1174992011 M * awk sorry, have a missed something 1174992027 M * daniel_hozac vserver ... build -m debootstrap ... -- -d should work fine. 1174992027 M * awk I wanted to specify in newvserver-vars the dist of actually Feisty the newer release of ubuntu 1174992046 M * awk and building this on verver edgy 1174992049 M * awk version even 1174992071 M * daniel_hozac which shouldn't be a problem at all. 1174992081 M * daniel_hozac the host and guest distro are not connected in any way. 1174992095 M * awk hmm, I guess I should read over vserver a bit more then 1174992105 M * awk and see how to use the -- d parameter correctly 1174992114 M * awk thank you 1174992246 M * awk tell me something the -- d parm, where does it draw the dist inf from 1174992256 M * awk has that been coded in on your side? 1174992257 M * daniel_hozac it passes it on to debootstrap. 1174992266 M * daniel_hozac so whatever works for debootstrap will work for -d. 1174992306 M * awk yes, I understand that, but I specify say, fiesty, edgy, dapper or on debian sarge, etc 1174992315 M * daniel_hozac what? 1174992327 M * awk where does it pickup that host specific info from, and how do I let it know to build the vserver from a local mirror 1174992345 M * daniel_hozac you use -m. 1174992351 M * awk ahh, I see. 1174992361 M * awk sorry, I should have read the docs better 1174992365 M * awk :) excuse my ignorance 1174992675 M * awk vserver nfs build -n nfs --hostname nfs.inet-corp.com --interface eth0:10.0.0.201/24 -m debootstrap -- -d feisty -m http://za.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu 1174992679 M * awk that worked great :) 1174992713 M * awk 1 last ignorant question. when it does a vserver build. what default packages are installed 1174992720 M * awk minimal packages? 1174992727 M * awk without specification that is 1174993115 M * awk http://hashbin.com/322.html 1174993123 M * awk there is a problem once starting the 'vserver' 1174993164 Q * shedi Quit: Leaving 1174993168 M * awk I know I can go ahead and make the directory, just wondering if that is the correct thing to do ? 1174993264 M * awk root@fs:/# sysctl kernel.vshelper 1174993264 M * awk kernel.vshelper = /usr/lib/util-vserver/vshelper 1174993653 M * Hollow daniel_hozac: some fixes for gentoo init style: http://paste.linux-vserver.org/1364 1174993783 M * awk Hollow: any ideas on my side? 1174993813 M * awk cant find much info on google? 1174993954 M * awk vwla, fixed it 1174993955 M * awk :) 1174994140 M * awk set rootpassword 1174994141 M * awk erp 1174994234 Q * DavidS Quit: Leaving. 1174994794 J * DavidS ~david@vpn.uni-ak.ac.at 1174994871 J * shedi ~siggi@tolvudeild-195.lhi.is 1174996479 Q * Aiken Quit: Leaving 1174996580 Q * mire Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1174997216 J * lilalinux ~plasma@dslb-084-058-209-186.pools.arcor-ip.net 1174997220 N * Bertl_zZ Bertl_oO 1174997253 J * mire ~mire@85.222.171.8 1174998258 Q * lilalinux Remote host closed the connection 1174999344 M * slack101 good morning 1174999356 M * slack101 Hollow Bertl_oO etc 1174999661 M * daniel_hozac Hollow: reboot.sh/shutdown.sh are missing the shebang? 1174999737 M * Hollow shebang? 1174999750 M * daniel_hozac #!/bin/sh, i gues. 1174999773 M * Hollow no, they are only sourced 1174999791 M * daniel_hozac so why are they executable? 1174999828 M * Hollow dunno, i just copied them and edited.. 1174999830 M * Hollow :) 1174999853 M * daniel_hozac heh, ok then. 1174999889 M * daniel_hozac i thought the initpost script removed /proc/kmsg from the syslog-ng configuration file? 1174999908 M * Hollow yeah, but rc is still calling dmesg -n1 1174999918 M * Hollow just a cosmetic fix 1174999920 M * daniel_hozac ah, okay. 1174999941 M * daniel_hozac well, looks fine i guess. 1174999959 M * Hollow ok, will commit it later 1174999987 M * daniel_hozac ok, thanks. 1175000135 M * slack101 Hollow: btw i put the other initpost in there and its still wont start, i will mess with it again in a min 1175000270 M * awk http://paste.linux-vserver.org/1365 1175000275 M * awk please if somebody has a moment to read this 1175000385 M * daniel_hozac how are you logging in to the guest? 1175000393 M * daniel_hozac is /etc/environment sourced? 1175000418 M * awk hmm, I just used vserver servername enter 1175000423 M * awk so I guess its not sourced 1175000497 M * awk strangly enough 1175000507 M * awk I can't even ssh the box, it seems to just lets me log into the parent 1175000510 M * awk err host 1175000511 M * awk what ever 1175000526 M * awk everytime I log into the ip of the vserver it opens in the host 1175000571 M * daniel_hozac because you haven't restricted the host's sshd to the host's IP addresses. 1175000601 M * awk aahh 1175000603 M * awk good point 1175000613 M * awk I did how ever set the ip on the vserver to its own ip 1175000653 M * Hollow slack101: initpost/initpre is only used on vserver ... build did you rebuild the guest? 1175000673 M * daniel_hozac slack101: and use -d gentoo? 1175000704 M * slack101 i did not rebuild ........just replaced files 1175000726 M * daniel_hozac so, uh, how do you expect them to apply? 1175000777 M * DavidS daniel_hozac: wooo ... it's magik! ;) 1175000822 A * slack101 has no idea how it works himself 1175000931 M * awk hmmm daniel_hozac i'm still getting the env issue 1175000941 M * awk I wish I knew of a way to do an env-update or something 1175001202 M * slack101 >>> Providing dummy net dependency ... 1175001202 M * slack101 /bin/cat: /usr/lib/util-vserver/distributions/gentoo/net.vserver: No such file or directory 1175001206 M * slack101 does this matter? 1175001258 M * slack101 wow 48 processes running lol 1175001275 Q * cdrx Quit: Leaving 1175001304 Q * phedny_ Remote host closed the connection 1175001332 J * phedny_ ~mark@phedny.vps.van-cuijk.nl 1175001489 M * daniel_hozac slack101: yes, it does. it means you don't have a complete set of gentoo scripts. 1175001521 M * slack101 will this hurt me 1175001522 M * slack101 ? 1175001526 M * slack101 networking works 1175001606 J * marcfiu ~mef@aegis.CS.Princeton.EDU 1175001610 P * marcfiu 1175001611 Q * DavidS Quit: Leaving. 1175002040 J * cdrx ~legoater@cap31-3-82-227-199-249.fbx.proxad.net 1175002661 J * dna ~naucki@p54bcfd43.dip.t-dialin.net 1175003084 J * Roey ~katz@dsl093-083-226.wdc1.dsl.speakeasy.net 1175003121 J * thommy 2wiEbsd2@nat-1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de 1175003278 M * thommy hi, having a debian etch box with vserver and want to 'clone' an existing debian sarge box as virtual server. found the build method rsync but no documentation about it. 1175003303 M * thommy any hints where to find informations about the build method rsync? 1175003396 M * daniel_hozac what kind of documentation do you want? 1175003473 M * thommy man, text, website, postings in which the options are explained. 1175003530 M * thommy i only found hints in the changelog, that this option exists, but nothing about it, how to use it. 1175003571 M * daniel_hozac vserver ... build --help? 1175003706 M * arachnist btw, anyone ever tried setting up networking for qemu (with kvm if that matters) running inside vserver guest? 1175003745 M * thommy uuuups there it is ;-) 1175003760 M * thommy thanx for the hint. 1175003762 M * daniel_hozac arachnist: -net nic -net user should work, no? 1175003810 M * arachnist daniel_hozac: but doesn't -net user allow only tcp connections? 1175004094 M * arachnist yup, just as i thought, no ping even :> 1175004489 Q * thommy Quit: using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.12 1175005073 Q * DoberMann[PullA] Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1175005408 J * DoberMann[PullA] ~james@AToulouse-156-1-26-25.w81-49.abo.wanadoo.fr 1175006315 Q * yarihm Quit: Leaving 1175007219 Q * dna Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1175007965 M * slack101 Hollow: whats all installed on that stage 4 1175007971 M * slack101 i noticed lighttpd postfix etc ? 1175008070 Q * zLinux Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1175008595 J * dna ~naucki@p54BCD831.dip.t-dialin.net 1175008958 J * zLinux ~zLinux@88.213.58.163 1175009877 Q * cdrx Quit: Leaving 1175009934 J * stefani ~stefani@flute.radonc.washington.edu 1175011326 Q * ema Quit: leaving 1175012056 Q * DoberMann[PullA] Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1175012441 J * pmenier ~pme@LNeuilly-152-22-72-5.w193-251.abo.wanadoo.fr 1175012803 J * bonbons ~bonbons@83.222.39.201 1175012913 J * DoberMann[PullA] ~james@AToulouse-156-1-16-13.w86-196.abo.wanadoo.fr 1175013276 Q * shedi Quit: Leaving 1175013442 Q * pmenier Quit: Quitte 1175013464 J * boci^ ~boci@pool-6046.adsl.interware.hu 1175013467 Q * awk Remote host closed the connection 1175013652 Q * DoberMann[PullA] Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1175013842 J * DoberMann[PullA] ~james@AToulouse-156-1-48-145.w90-16.abo.wanadoo.fr 1175014438 J * yang ~yang@yang.sponsor.oftc.net 1175015544 Q * bonbons Quit: Leaving 1175016226 J * dna_ ~naucki@p54BCD831.dip.t-dialin.net 1175016330 J * Term_ ~user1@189.131.143.159 1175016398 J * lilalinux ~plasma@dslb-084-058-250-119.pools.arcor-ip.net 1175016552 J * cdrx ~legoater@cap31-3-82-227-199-249.fbx.proxad.net 1175016634 Q * dna Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1175016819 Q * michal` Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1175016866 M * slack101 i see hope 1175017354 J * michal` ~michal@www.rsbac.org 1175017413 M * slack101 i asked earlier 1175017418 M * slack101 but Providing dummy net dependency ... 1175017418 M * slack101 /bin/cat: /usr/lib/util-vserver/distributions/gentoo/net.vserver: No such file or directory 1175017426 M * slack101 is this something i should worry about ? 1175017582 J * awk ~awk@dsl-242-123-186.telkomadsl.co.za 1175017600 Q * chand Quit: chand 1175017615 M * awk hmm, hi, sorry to bother, but where is the debian/ubuntu configuration documentation. what to do after you vserver vserver eneter 1175017621 M * awk eg: creating the shadow file, etc 1175017630 M * awk I see its well documented for fedora 1175017742 J * xleave_ xleave@shell.chaostreff-dortmund.de 1175017754 N * DoberMann[PullA] DoberMann 1175017756 M * slack101 also i noticed the initctl is missing ........is that suppose ot be missing from this ? 1175017780 M * brcc_ is there a way to find which vserver is using most cpu ? 1175017886 M * xleave_ hello, i got a problem with vserver patch-2.6.17.11-vs2.02.diff and using lirc-0.8.0. The problem was discussed on the dev mailing list. Is there already a solution? 1175018000 Q * awk Quit: . 1175018029 Q * besonen Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1175018101 M * daniel_hozac brcc_: vtop? 1175018122 M * daniel_hozac xleave_: uh, the most recent release is 2.6.17.13-vs2.0.2.1. 1175018154 M * brcc_ daniel_hozac: lot of vservers and lot of processes. Can't get an idea of who is using most cpu using vtop 1175018156 M * daniel_hozac xleave_: on what mailing list? 1175018164 M * daniel_hozac brcc_: vserver-stat then? 1175018200 M * daniel_hozac (with a recent util-vserver release) 1175018229 M * brcc_ Hmm. guess mine is not a recent util vserver release, cause vserver-stat doesn't give me any cpu related output 1175018234 M * daniel_hozac oh? 1175018243 M * daniel_hozac it has always outputted sys and user time, AFAIK. 1175018258 M * daniel_hozac just that it's not accurate until recent releases. 1175018267 M * daniel_hozac (i.e. it's just summed up across the currently running processes) 1175018276 M * brcc_ hm got it 1175018307 M * daniel_hozac (you could also use /proc/virtual//sched directly) 1175018371 M * brcc_ That was what i planned. How can i do that? Using the last 2 lines? 1175018371 M * brcc_ cpu 0: 301466 169481 2786317 1175018415 M * daniel_hozac yep. 1175018452 M * brcc_ where can i find info about those lines ? 1175018454 M * Hollow daniel_hozac: ok, changes commited 1175018459 M * daniel_hozac Hollow: thanks. 1175018469 M * Hollow so, how's the plan for 213? 1175018469 M * daniel_hozac brcc_: procfs page should have it. 1175018476 M * brcc_ ok ! thanks! gonna check it now 1175018484 M * daniel_hozac it's supposed to be released for weeks already :) 1175018485 M * Hollow seems to work fine here 1175018492 M * Hollow though i did not test very much of the configuratio 1175018493 M * Hollow n 1175018501 M * daniel_hozac yeah, that's basically what i have left. 1175018510 M * daniel_hozac verify that i didn't break e.g. secure-mount with all the changes. 1175018521 M * xleave_ daniel_hozac: on the vserver development mailing list Mon 17 Jul 2006 1175018540 M * daniel_hozac xleave_: well, umm, you might want to provide a reference then, as that's almost a year ago... 1175018556 M * daniel_hozac xleave_: and we don't really remember every single thread ;) 1175018580 M * xleave_ daniel_hozac: hehe np: http://www.paul.sladen.org/vserver/archives/200607/0196.html 1175018604 M * slack101 daniel_hozac: do you have any idea of getting the init scirpts for shutdown and reboot .......they are missing .........i could add them but i dont know if they have ot be special or not 1175018622 M * daniel_hozac slack101: use a subversion checkout. 1175018650 M * slack101 of vsever? 1175018658 M * daniel_hozac xleave_: well, that should be fixed in recent patches. 1175018676 M * slack101 how do i find out which version i am using ? 1175018677 M * daniel_hozac xleave_: e.g. 2.2.0-rc21, or 2.0.3-rc1/2. 1175018686 M * daniel_hozac slack101: of util-vserver, yes. 1175018723 M * xleave_ daniel_hozac: ok thanks i will try the latest release 1175018779 M * slack101 daniel_hozac: and how about findin out which version i am using now ? 1175018785 M * daniel_hozac slack101: vserver --version? 1175018803 M * slack101 vserver 0.30.212 1175018809 M * slack101 how outdated am i working with ? 1175018835 M * daniel_hozac for Gentoo? quite a bit. 1175018852 M * slack101 i ddint orginallly install it 1175018858 M * slack101 so i dont know where he got it 1175018866 M * slack101 any major reason to update ? 1175018881 M * daniel_hozac like, a complete set of recent Gentoo scripts? 1175018887 M * slack101 yea 1175018896 M * slack101 i meant anything with the actual program etc ? 1175018991 M * daniel_hozac depends on your situation, i suppose. 1175019016 M * slack101 daniel_hozac: could we be a little more specific :P 1175019046 M * daniel_hozac http://svn.linux-vserver.org/projects/util-vserver/timeline?daysback=150 1175019129 P * Term_ 1175019190 M * slack101 do i have to make a kerrnel modification ? 1175019211 M * daniel_hozac no. 1175019233 M * slack101 ok hmmm 1175019241 M * daniel_hozac the utils should work on pretty much any kernel. 1175019246 M * slack101 ah i see 1175019246 M * daniel_hozac with a few exceptions. 1175019263 M * daniel_hozac (older development versions basically) 1175019280 M * slack101 so should prolly update 1175019290 M * slack101 or atleast the gentoo part 1175019895 M * slack101 after i get my gentoo guest distro how i want it ........whats the best way to make it a template ? 1175019951 M * daniel_hozac cp -a? 1175020072 M * slack101 rm: cannot remove `/usr/portage/metadata/timestamp.chk': Read-only file system 1175020073 M * slack101 lol 1175020152 M * slack101 i take this is also a problem 1175020866 J * shedi ~siggi@ftth-237-144.hive.is 1175021143 Q * lilalinux Remote host closed the connection 1175021834 M * xleave_ daniel_hozac: hmm, same problem with 2.6.17.13-vs2.0.2.1 (dmesg gives: lirc_dev: Unknown symbol vx_rmap_pid) 1175021864 M * daniel_hozac xleave_: that's not really recent. 1175022093 M * xleave_ daniel_hozac: give me hint. should i use the 2.6.20 with 2.2.0-rc21 ? 1175022249 M * daniel_hozac or 2.6.19.7-vs2.2.0-rc21, or 2.6.18.5-vs2.0.3-rc1, or 2.6.16.44-vs2.0.3-rc2, etc. 1175022251 J * kevinp ~kevinp@ny.webpipe.net 1175023013 J * ema ~ema@rtfm.galliera.it 1175023015 J * barros ~barros@zaphod.inexo.com.br 1175023123 M * barros is there slackware support for hashify?? I've tried here and get a response telling me something about the package manager. Playing around with the script source, I noticed that slackware is not supported. 1175023153 M * slack101 vserver 0.30.212 1175023160 M * slack101 what version is this ? 1175023168 M * slack101 i keep seeing 2.x 1175023228 M * daniel_hozac slack101: the kernel and the util-vserver versions have nothing to do with eachother. 1175023337 M * daniel_hozac barros: i guess not. 1175023354 M * daniel_hozac barros: does slackware have something which would work? 1175023455 M * barros that is what I thought.. 1175023604 M * kevinp daniel_hozac, do I need any specific branch of linux-vserver to start working on centos5 guests? 1175023637 M * daniel_hozac kevinp: centos5 guests? you should just need to create the distribution. 1175023659 M * kevinp ok, just wasn't sure if it needed a specific kernel version 1175023693 M * daniel_hozac well, it ships with 2.6.17 or 18, no? 1175023701 M * daniel_hozac so you can't really go wrong. 1175023803 M * ntrs can i change the niceness of a guest without having to restart it? 1175023831 Q * barros Quit: Leaving 1175023862 M * daniel_hozac ntrs: renice all of the processes? 1175023880 M * kevinp yeah, looks like kernel-2.6.18, so anything above that should be fine 1175023885 M * ntrs the same effect as restarting the guest with the value in the nice file in the config being set to 10 1175023947 M * daniel_hozac ntrs: so, renice +10 all of the processes. 1175023974 M * ntrs daniel_hozac, I guess, yes. 1175023996 M * ntrs I want all newly spawned processes to be nice 10 too 1175024172 M * daniel_hozac the nice value is inherited. 1175024368 Q * yang Read error: Connection reset by peer 1175024368 M * ntrs ok, how do I do that? 1175024401 M * slack101 how can i get the util - version 1175024525 M * daniel_hozac ntrs: for i in `ps faux | awk '{ print $2 }'`; do renice +10 -p $i; done maybe? 1175024527 Q * renihs Read error: Operation timed out 1175024543 M * daniel_hozac slack101: vserver --version, as i said... 1175025091 M * bXi any indication on when the next stable version is due? 1175025198 M * daniel_hozac 2.2.0? 1175025289 M * bXi i think so 1175025303 M * bXi i see 2.0.2.1(current stable iirc) and 2.2.0 and 2.3.0 1175025343 M * daniel_hozac there's just one issue we want to make sure is fixed before it's released, AFAIK. 1175025370 M * bXi whats that issue? 1175025439 J * bonbons ~bonbons@83.222.39.201 1175025489 M * daniel_hozac oops in tty_devnum. 1175025506 M * daniel_hozac triggered randomly by something using proc. 1175025579 M * bXi does the distro matter? 1175025583 M * bXi i have a playbox here 1175025592 M * bXi on which i'm going to install linux again 1175025599 M * bXi and i'm more then willing to test for you guys 1175025632 M * daniel_hozac no, it's a kernel thing. 1175025649 M * bXi gentoo it is then :) 1175027341 J * renihs ~penguin@83-65-34-34.arsenal.xdsl-line.inode.at 1175028080 P * stefani I'm Parting (the water) 1175028247 Q * FloodServ cation.oftc.net charon.oftc.net 1175028247 Q * renihs cation.oftc.net charon.oftc.net 1175028247 Q * bonbons cation.oftc.net charon.oftc.net 1175028247 Q * kevinp cation.oftc.net charon.oftc.net 1175028247 Q * cdrx cation.oftc.net charon.oftc.net 1175028247 Q * dna_ cation.oftc.net charon.oftc.net 1175028247 Q * zLinux cation.oftc.net charon.oftc.net 1175028247 Q * cehteh cation.oftc.net charon.oftc.net 1175028247 Q * softi42 cation.oftc.net charon.oftc.net 1175028247 Q * Johnnie cation.oftc.net charon.oftc.net 1175028247 Q * Loki|muh cation.oftc.net charon.oftc.net 1175028247 Q * ex cation.oftc.net charon.oftc.net 1175028247 Q * cohan_ cation.oftc.net charon.oftc.net 1175028247 Q * Hollow cation.oftc.net charon.oftc.net 1175028247 Q * brcc_ cation.oftc.net charon.oftc.net 1175028247 Q * TrueBrain cation.oftc.net charon.oftc.net 1175028247 Q * ema cation.oftc.net charon.oftc.net 1175028247 Q * Wonka cation.oftc.net charon.oftc.net 1175028247 Q * waldi cation.oftc.net charon.oftc.net 1175028247 Q * trippeh cation.oftc.net charon.oftc.net 1175028247 Q * sid3windr cation.oftc.net charon.oftc.net 1175028247 Q * Val cation.oftc.net charon.oftc.net 1175028247 Q * ruskie cation.oftc.net charon.oftc.net 1175028314 M * ntrs Is there any way to move a virtual server to another host without stopping it? 1175028348 M * ntrs I want the uptime and and application times to be unaffected. 1175028381 M * daniel_hozac no, live migration isn't supported. 1175028397 M * ntrs what about freezing a guest somehow and moving it? 1175028419 M * daniel_hozac there's nothing kernel side at least. 1175028448 J * ema ~ema@rtfm.galliera.it 1175028448 J * Wonka produziert@chaos.in-kiel.de 1175028448 J * waldi ~waldi@bblank.thinkmo.de 1175028448 J * trippeh atomt@uff.ugh.no 1175028448 J * sid3windr luser@bastard-operator.from-hell.be 1175028448 J * Val ~val@v41.org 1175028448 J * ruskie ruskie@ruskie.user.oftc.net 1175028487 J * FloodServ services@services.oftc.net 1175028521 Q * dghill Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1175028542 J * renihs ~penguin@83-65-34-34.arsenal.xdsl-line.inode.at 1175028542 J * bonbons ~bonbons@83.222.39.201 1175028542 J * kevinp ~kevinp@ny.webpipe.net 1175028542 J * cdrx ~legoater@cap31-3-82-227-199-249.fbx.proxad.net 1175028542 J * dna_ ~naucki@p54BCD831.dip.t-dialin.net 1175028542 J * zLinux ~zLinux@88.213.58.163 1175028542 J * cehteh ~ct@pipapo.org 1175028542 J * softi42 ~softi@p549d5ff5.dip.t-dialin.net 1175028542 J * Johnnie ~jdlewis@c-67-163-247-109.hsd1.pa.comcast.net 1175028542 J * Loki|muh loki@satanix.de 1175028542 J * brcc_ bruce@i.am.someasshole.com 1175028542 J * Hollow ~hollow@styx.xnull.de 1175028542 J * TrueBrain truelight@openttd.org 1175028542 J * cohan_ ~cohan@koniczek.de 1175028542 J * ex ex@81.219.196.129 1175028565 J * dghill dghill@office.mel.illuminate.com.au 1175028631 Q * bonbons Quit: Leaving 1175028640 M * ntrs Ok, how can I ensure minimal networking downtime then? 1175028654 M * ntrs copy the server over, stop it on one server, start it on the other? 1175028698 M * daniel_hozac copy it, stop it, rsync the final bits, start it on the other. 1175028763 M * ntrs What I am worried about is the IP address not being pingable for some time. 1175028786 M * ntrs How can I ensure that the switch starts forwarding the packets to the other port for that IP address as soon as possible? 1175028809 M * daniel_hozac your switch cares about IP-addresses? 1175028817 M * ntrs no 1175028841 M * daniel_hozac so what you want is to flush that entry on your router. 1175028846 M * ntrs I mean isn't the new server going to be non-pingable for a few minutes? 1175028860 M * ntrs it's a switch, not a router 1175028863 M * ntrs arp? 1175028871 M * daniel_hozac what? 1175028880 M * daniel_hozac the switch doesn't matter, unless it's level 3. 1175028892 M * daniel_hozac you need to tell the router about the new IP address. 1175028893 M * ntrs it is a level 3 switch 1175028903 M * ntrs the IP address will be the same. 1175028906 M * daniel_hozac so then it _does_ care about IP addresses. 1175028914 M * daniel_hozac right, i meant MAC address, of course. 1175028924 M * ntrs how do I refresh the arp table. Is that wha you mean? 1175028940 M * daniel_hozac arp -d should work. 1175029054 M * ntrs on the second host? 1175029071 M * doener on the host you want to forget the arp entry 1175029073 M * daniel_hozac no, on the router. 1175029087 M * daniel_hozac whoever makes sure those packets gets to that box. 1175029099 M * ntrs the router does not have a command line 1175029104 M * ntrs I mean the switch 1175029117 M * daniel_hozac hmm? 1175029120 M * ntrs how do I tell the switch from either server to refresh the arp table? 1175029124 M * daniel_hozac a level 3 switch which does not have a command line? 1175029137 M * daniel_hozac that sounds extraordinarily strange. 1175029156 M * daniel_hozac kevinp: testme/testfs are already referenced from http://linux-vserver.org/Report_a_Bug. 1175029515 M * ntrs can arping do the trick somehow? 1175029604 M * daniel_hozac give it a try, i guess. 1175029616 M * kevinp daniel_hozac, just thought that other people like myself would look for it under downloads. Feel free to remove it doesn't work for you. 1175029618 M * daniel_hozac would probably be easier to just set it on the router though. 1175029712 M * daniel_hozac kevinp: well, duplicating it is probably not a good idea. 1175029740 M * daniel_hozac so having it all on one page and referencing that from the other seems like the best way to go, IMHO. 1175029750 Q * michal` Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1175029765 M * kevinp that makes sense too, just as long as people can find it 1175029862 N * Bertl_oO Bertl 1175029881 M * Bertl evening folks! 1175029889 M * daniel_hozac morning Bertl 1175030029 M * xp_prg hi all, I forgot the best way to delete a vserver, can someone remind me? 1175030056 M * daniel_hozac vserver --help 1175030118 M * xp_prg yup I see delete thanks ;) 1175030133 M * xp_prg is there an easy way to see how much space a vserver is taking? 1175030147 M * daniel_hozac du -sh? 1175030178 M * xp_prg but of a particular vserver? 1175030199 M * daniel_hozac hmm? why wouldn't du -sh work for that? 1175030205 M * Bertl du -skx /vservers/ 1175030221 M * daniel_hozac right, x is always good :) 1175030250 M * xp_prg coll thanks 1175030335 J * michal` ~michal@www.rsbac.org 1175030359 M * xp_prg carrots:~# du -skx /vservers/libero 2140228 /vservers/libero 1175030379 M * xp_prg that says that the vserver libero is taking like 2 gigs of space right? 1175030807 N * DoberMann DoberMann[ZZZzzz] 1175031530 M * ntrs Hi Bertl 1175031560 M * ntrs how should I use arping to minimize downtime when I move a guest to another host, keeping the same IP address. 1175031585 M * ntrs and some kind of a suspend then move feature would be really great. 1175031881 M * slack101 one of you are very evil 1175031973 A * Hollow sighs 1175032010 M * Bertl ntrs: will be there in 1-2 years (with mainline support) 1175032025 M * slack101 this is the only place i gave my server ip ............now they just shut it off 1175032037 M * Bertl ntrs: what about arp/ping to the switch? 1175032060 M * slack101 One of your customers servers with IP 62xxxxxx 1175032060 M * slack101 has been brute forcing my PC on SSH for some time now. Please take the 1175032060 M * slack101 appropriate action! 1175032062 M * ntrs if I move a guest from one to another host keeping the same IP 1175032076 M * Bertl ntrs: if your switch doesn't update the arp table, then this is a switch not a linux problem 1175032080 M * slack101 One of your customers servers with IP 62xxxxxx has been brute forcing my 1175032080 M * slack101 PC on SSH for some time now. Please take the appropriate action! 1175032098 M * ntrs can I use arping to speed up the arp update somehow? 1175032120 M * Bertl ntrs: IMHO once you take the ip down on machine A, and bring it up on machine B, then send the first packet (maybe arp announce) to the switch, it should update 1175032142 M * ntrs how do I do arp announce? 1175032164 M * ntrs Bertl, this has to be done from the destination hos? 1175032169 M * ntrs +t 1175032194 A * slack101 is serverless 1175032447 M * ntrs Bertl, how do I do arp announce and is it supposed to be done from the destination host?? 1175032643 M * Hollow Bertl, daniel_hozac, doener, phreak``: anyone of you planning to visit linuxtag in berlin? 1175032681 M * Hollow (important for the exhibitor passes) 1175032919 M * slack101 this sucks! 1175032967 Q * ema Quit: leaving 1175033118 M * Bertl Hollow: I will see what I can do .. no guarantees though 1175033162 M * doener Hollow: when is it? 1175033193 M * doener nvm, the page finally got loaded 1175033287 M * Bertl ntrs: http://kb.linuxvirtualserver.org/wiki/Using_arp_announce/arp_ignore_to_disable_ARP 1175033391 M * Bertl ntrs: but basically a ping -I should suffice 1175033438 M * Bertl ntrs: being the guest ip on the new host 1175033457 M * Bertl ntrs: but make sure that the old host doesn't answer to the same ip anymore 1175033907 M * doener Hollow: I'll try to come, still discussing with a friend ;) 1175034011 M * Hollow doener: hehe, ok.. going to bed now anyway 1175034017 M * Hollow cu tomorrow 1175034160 M * slack101 time to buy a new server 1175035736 M * Bertl slack101: what's the problem with the old one? 1175035975 M * bXi Bertl: could you use another testing box? 1175036154 M * Bertl we can always use another test box 1175036168 M * Bertl bXi: but we have some requirements to make it useful to us 1175036190 M * Bertl bXi: one of them is a serial console and a way to remote reset that machine 1175036222 M * bXi hmmm 1175036223 M * Bertl bXi: another one is at least every now and then a little support with installing a base system and such 1175036223 Q * dna_ Quit: Verlassend 1175036239 M * bXi that serial console is quite interesting to try 1175036243 M * bXi i've got a playbox 1175036253 M * bXi and a laptop which doesnt do anything 1175036263 J * Aiken ~james@ppp250-73.lns2.bne4.internode.on.net 1175036277 M * bXi and remote reset shouldnt be too hard 1175036295 M * Bertl if you have two machines (servers) there, you do not even need that, you can get away with a Linux-VServer guest as the other end of a serial console 1175036323 M * Bertl i.e. give the serial device to the guest and put a null modem cable there 1175036353 M * bXi i'll try and set up everything this weekend 1175036357 M * Bertl morning Aiken! 1175036365 Q * kevinp Quit: Leaving 1175036372 M * bXi i NEED to support you in some way :D 1175036375 M * Aiken good morning 1175036391 M * Bertl bXi: hehe, well, testing is appreciated support too :) 1175036395 Q * matti Ping timeout: 480 seconds 1175036407 M * bXi Day changed to 28 Mar 2007 1175036408 M * bXi OOH 1175036412 M * bXi its my bday \o/ 1175036425 M * Bertl congrats then! how old if I may ask? 1175036429 M * bXi 22 1175036451 M * bXi well i got a production server running vserver 2.0.2.1 1175036653 M * bXi awefully quiet :P 1175036664 M * bXi too young or so? :) 1175036923 M * Bertl nono, we are just too old :) 1175036928 M * bXi hehe 1175036929 M * bXi BUT 1175036934 M * bXi full of knowledge 1175036936 M * bXi which i lack 1175036942 M * bXi (but i'm obviously learning) 1175036968 M * Bertl given that nothing goes terribly wrong, you still have time to learn :) 1175036985 M * bXi everything is going terribly okay atm 1175036997 M * bXi my boss is gonna have a holiday of a month in 4 months time 1175037001 M * bXi and then i'll be CEO for a month 1175037007 M * bXi (to see if i'm up for the job) 1175037071 M * bXi (and yes its a very small company :D) 1175037117 M * Bertl so you will be caliph instead of the caliph ... 1175037122 M * bXi yeah 1175037200 M * bXi iznogoehd :D 1175038076 J * dannf ~dannf@utter.lackof.org 1175038137 M * doener Bertl: http://list.linux-vserver.org is not reachable from here, is there a problem with that box or my connection? 1175038171 M * slack101 Bertl: remember how i tried to hide my ip ?? when paste bin'ing stuff ??? 1175038662 M * Bertl doener: issue with the box, I assume martin is changing something 1175038671 M * Bertl slack101: yup 1175038692 M * doener ok 1175038739 M * Bertl doener: sladenäs archive should work though 1175038751 M * Bertl *sladen's 1175039030 M * Bertl welcome dannf! almost missed your appearance :) 1175039518 M * slack101 Bertl: resulted in someone from this room or reading logs ........getting into the server and using it to bruteforce a SSH login for a few day s 1175039560 M * Bertl slack101: well, that's the problem with public logs and insufficient security 1175039607 M * slack101 Bertl: i tried to hide it but it got passt me once 1175039617 M * Bertl yeah, I remember 1175039636 M * slack101 and someone took advantage of it 1175039647 M * slack101 and i ddint see the warming emails the datacenter was sending 1175039659 M * slack101 went to spam folder 1175039662 M * Bertl it's a bad, bad world ... 1175039668 M * slack101 that it is 1175039681 M * slack101 luckily i think they only got acces to the VPS 1175039692 M * slack101 the main server ip i dont think got out 1175039694 M * slack101 just the vps 1175039709 M * Bertl without all the evil folks around, we wouldn't even need to waste time and performance on security and firewalls 1175039731 M * slack101 so now i think they are going to shut my server down 1175039751 M * Bertl hmm, just because of one incident? 1175039755 M * slack101 well 1175039759 M * slack101 they sent me 4 emails 1175039763 M * slack101 for a week 1175039766 M * slack101 and i ddint see em 1175039773 M * Bertl hmm, well, that's bad ... 1175039776 M * slack101 i called them 1175039782 M * slack101 but i dont know if it will do much 1175039786 M * dannf thx Bertl - hey, I had a question about this bug: http://bus.debian.org/412143 - looks like from what i can find it was fixed in rc14, and I've backported a patch to 2.6.18, but I can't seem to reproduce 1175039795 M * dannf er http://bugs.debian.org/412143 1175039836 M * Bertl do you want to know when it was fixed or something else? 1175039850 M * dannf we assigned a CVE for it (CVE-2007-0241), but I'd like to determine whether or not it affects sarge 1175039865 M * Bertl ah, you want to probe/test it? 1175039869 M * dannf 2.4.27/2.6.8 1175039872 M * dannf exactly 1175039880 M * Bertl that should be simple to do 1175039890 M * Bertl create two guests (or contexts) 1175039908 M * Bertl spawn a process in one context like this: sleep 1000 & 1175039919 M * Bertl it will give you the pid of that child process 1175039926 M * Bertl then in the other context do: 1175039935 M * Bertl renice 10 1175039950 M * slack101 jus got a new girlfriend too ....... *goes to find a new dedicated server* 1175039964 M * Bertl renice 10 -p actually 1175039976 M * dannf right, but renice returns an error when it can't find that pid, and it appears that pids never overlap between contexts (wrote a little program to verify that) 1175039990 M * dannf hrm.. i'll try w/ -p